balance

[cloud lion]

Any suggestion what to craft after weapon if whole gear is ass already

[lofty depot]

W.e sims highest

And what the guide says

[novel kettle]

Hi,

Can someone pease explain me why we don't use ascendant proc anymore before incarn ?

And why incarn build is most played against convoke build ?

[cloud lion]

I didnt loot any ring yet

[lofty depot]

They simmed it and it was neutral

[cloud lion]

so awful

[lofty depot]

Uhhh convoke St talent, incarn pad talent

U don't need to eclipse prior to incarn in opener

If u did, u would use said procs

[novel kettle]

I check warcraft logs, and there are almost no convoke builds on HM / MM ST fights. I don't understand why. My raidbots sims are better with convoke build.

[lofty depot]

There's adds on all those "st fights"

Also, maybe people don't want to play convoke

[novel kettle]

Vorasius ?

[lofty depot]

Yea so what

There's adds on that right

[drifting nova]

didnt think it was possible but seems to be less tanks than tww doing dungs, unlucky

[crystal pulsar]

how do we sim for m+?

[novel kettle]

I used to played convoke build with FoE, using ascendants procs before Foe / Treants / Incarn, and it was pretty good.

[late coral]

Hi, having conflicting informations between Wowhead, Rio leaderboard, and compendium, what's the m+ build atp ?

[tawny root]

What is the second recomended craft after the 285 weapon?

[lofty depot]

U don't right now

[lofty depot]

U can likely play what u want yes

It's clear other people played other talents and doing more

[lofty depot]

There's not a strict build it's 2nd week of the content, the "meta" is still metaing..... U can look at warcraftlogs to see what people are running

[lofty depot]

Sim the options and see

[novel kettle]

I'm 271 with 4p / 2H craft 285 / Gloves craft 285 : my ST raidbots sims is at ~88 000k dps with convoke build, and I fond it low

[late coral]

Starweaver in m+ feels bad imo

[lofty depot]

About 7k low

[novel kettle]

I don't know why 🙁

[lofty depot]

So play rattle if u don't like it

[lofty depot]

Post sim

[novel kettle]

With incarn build : https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ePuXUvg3sZiS9n7wJrCuBa

[wind harbor]

What's the best sim config fog general purpose raiding? Default 5 min Patchwerk is ok ?

[novel kettle]

I miss some enchants, but i doubt this explains the ~7k

[smoky prawn]

anybody knows after which minute ribbon outsims gaze?

[lofty depot]

I thought ur 88k was convoke

[lofty depot]

Like 7 is neutral or a little better

Iirc

[novel kettle]

Here : https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k5jpZAXLkDHcr2yNqtRrN9

[smoky prawn]

kk, so shorter fights gaze long fights ribbon it is

[boreal brook]

Just run 1m convoke with 1m pvp on use trinket

[lofty depot]

We only sim 1t5m

[lofty depot]

Think gaze is just easier

[smoky prawn]

yeah but everybody wants it

just need to get lucky in vault i guess

[lofty depot]

Including u

Just sim better

[lofty depot]

I'd have to look at this later

U have a bunch of items at champ track still tho

[tiny fractal]

Would anyone be able to take a look at my logs? Not doing a lot of dmg.. :/

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2BvFzgAyXzTURZdH74EHCj

This is actually lower now cuz I have gaze

[drifting nova]

can aa get thrown into the sun please

[lofty depot]

Oh and I sent hero crest on helm and neck

On sec 🙂

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rgaG9FjgPXaC2ggCF9RRWc

I'm yoked

[novel kettle]

I had lower sims with crucible, so i switch it with heart

[lofty depot]

Do u not have the buffs

[novel kettle]

You think crucible is better than heart ?

[boreal brook]

it is very good

[boreal brook]

For M+ heart might beat crucible.

But not raid. Especially if you assign any value at all to the speed and leech

[novel kettle]

Ok, so I will get back crucible until i get gaze, ty !

But i still don't understand with my sims are so low comparing to other with 271 global ilvl.

[wild dune]

speed op

cant sim it but its shrimply insane

[boreal brook]

speed = uptime = damage

[wild dune]

every dps should wear it with basically no exceptions

[lofty depot]

well i asked if u had the buffs

i suppose its possible hearth sims lower

but id assume thats cuz u dont have buffs

[frigid stream]

which slots are we crafting in? the lowest stat ones as always?

[novel kettle]

What buffs ? I maxed the research console.

[lofty depot]

that would be the buffs to the trinket yes

[novel kettle]

Ok, maybe i don't do the sims the right way with crucible

[lofty depot]

show the sim that show it lower, is good research

[novel kettle]

I have my simc export from this morning and do the top gear sims : +327 dps

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qYZHZRik7z8QoK9bkrZhYu

[ruby badger]

Check the wowhead guide

Has a little write up about why you might wanna do one over the other

[lofty depot]

well that shows crucible is better

[drifting nova]

are rdruids giga bad or

[lofty depot]

bad at what

[drifting nova]

anything

everything

out here like survivor begging for a heal

to be above 20%

[lucid olive]

only the ones in your group

[drifting nova]

4dungs all giga low

every single time

like how I hate healing blood dks as a healer

from the yoyo

I couldnt buy a heal from any of these rdruids if I tried

[stark meteor]

does 2 set only buff you outside eclipse

if sonkilling myself

[lofty depot]

no

[drifting nova]

read it again

[lofty depot]

think of that and as a +

[lucid olive]

only the extra AP gen is outside of eclipse

[drifting nova]

well yeah, but 1 was 3k so idk

[lucid olive]

if it smells like farts in every room you walk into then maybe check your own trousers

[drifting nova]

aintnoway resto is anything better than the worst healer

bad enough barely any 9s exist

[cerulean wagon]

Can anyone help with my dragons logs?

[wild dune]

rdru is dummy op rn

atleast at this key level

[lofty depot]

with what

[drifting nova]

brother it was a 9, it shouldve been childs play for him

[wild dune]

bad players everywhere

[cerulean wagon]

@lofty depot sent them in DM. I’m just trying to figure out where I can improve. Trying to better understand where to use CDs

[lofty depot]

why r we sending in dm

[drifting nova]

hes done a 14 like

[stark meteor]

im illiterate I simmed my stuff immediately after waking up

ty all :3

[drifting nova]

average simmer

do not trust big sim

[lofty depot]

sooooo uhhh are u trying to pad and do more damage

or are u trying to do more boss dam

hello

please respond

ok idc posting

ur playing kindling on a fight where ur not spamming starfall outside of orb spawns

if ur triyng to pad on orbs u paly meteor storm

u pressed incarn on pull whihc if ur trying to pad, isnt how u play it

u pressed incarn here for adds, and got 4 starfalls

but the adds are dead by 40s

so u got 4s on one of those starfalls, 3, 2, 1 of damage on those

pressing starfire in solar

casting starfire in solar

trees goes before eclipse

ur sequencing is again wrong in incarn

ur pressing incorrectly and then sending like this

u need to be prepped into the add spawn

not pressing when they spawn

giga afk

idk a world im ever in lunar

u pressed incarn the last like 10s of p2

and then are gonna now afk

more down time

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[lofty depot]

taking 1.5-2 on these decisions

[wild dune]

arms owns?

[lofty depot]

essentially ur not playing correct with your cds
not playing correctly in cds
afking

[zealous violet]

This is a super basic question (I'm brand new to balance) - if in keys my tank is pulling huge (right now I'm being carried since I just swapped toons) - as far as rotation goes, I should be putting my moonfire up while gathering and then sunfire once they are gathered but my question is if there are like 8 mobs coming in, that takes quite a while and sometimes they are grouped up before I get all my moonfires out. At that point should I just stop moonfiring and drop sunfire on them and then start up the aoe rotation? And then also, I thought it was bad to use anything that will use taunt, like the treants - I don't want my tank to get pissy, unless their taunt isn't enough to cause significant disruption.

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/a23-gif-10433102321146277054

[lucid olive]

I just drop Sunfire if we get extra mobs after

maybe Moonfire if I'm out of Eclipse and can spare the globals

[lofty depot]

u dont play with trees taunt

most builds dont have it selected

if u have it selected ur doing it wrong

[zealous violet]

Doesn't Force of Nature do it automatically?

[lofty depot]

as stated

u can select the other talent

read your talents

[zealous violet]

Oh crap! Ok, thank you. I'm at work so I wasn't able to check that. Thank you 🙂

[lofty depot]

if ur playing trees in EC

u shoudlnt be

[zealous violet]

That makes 100% sense. I'll double check that I'm not. I was going from world questing straight into keys so I bet I didn't swap that over. Appreciate you pointing that out!

[lucid olive]

yeah I did this same mistake for the first like 9 m0s of the expansion

until someone mentioned a stray frontal and I opened my talent page

[royal zenith]

Expert btw

Guidewriter btw

Making mistakes smh!!

[lofty depot]

Expert at making mistakes

[zealous violet]

I just appreciate how kind and helpful everyone has been here in this discord. Its def not the same in other class discords.

[stark meteor]

facts

[lofty depot]

Very kind, very helpful I am

Mmhm mmhm

[royal zenith]

Huh

/s ??

[lofty depot]

Stfu deux

[royal zenith]

Im not the problem!

[hushed trail]

Do boomies still send double incarn in some situations?

[stark meteor]

does double incarn do something...

sometimes I panic and press both then want to die for doing so

[lofty depot]

In raid no

In m+ maybe later with ec

But doubt

[hushed trail]

Yeah okay meant raid, was just unsure since i couldnt find anything about it

but ty

[orchid fox]

Idk you gotta watch arctic. You should have seen him explain rings earlier

[lofty depot]

German can't understand logic

Wcyd

[orchid fox]

Lmao

[lofty depot]

I'm still on that a few good men reference

Yellow default.icon guy doesn't know how on the nose that is

But he hasn't seen the movie

Unforch

He just think angry, WERE FIGHTING A WAR SON

[hybrid patrol]

I understand we are supposed to Sim to determine our stat prio, etc. But is there a reason why sims are leaning so hard into crit? (enchants, gems, heavy crit oriented accessories.) I feel like I have a stupid amount compared to previous xpacs

[lofty depot]

Do u know what ur apex talent does

Also, we stacked Crit literally last tier

We've also stacked Crit in the past

[ebon void]

dude the amount of time that the dummies in silvermoon keep you in combat is unacceptable

[lofty depot]

Go on the top of the towers in dorn

[ebon void]

i ran from the dummies and made it 3/4 of the way across the bridge to the sunwell and it only dropped combat when i actually changed zones

but then i have to be in dorn ew

id rather go to belameth

[lofty depot]

Whoa

Secret place

[ebon void]

i mean uhhh ironforge

[lofty depot]

That's preheat's spot

Can't go there

[lucid olive]

yeah its quicker to just walk south instead

out of the city

[tardy mesa]

Hey all, I mainly m+ with a group of friends and we always get competitive with the overall dps charts. Been playing feral but have started to lose to my mage and lock friends lately. I haven’t crafted my wep yet, should I just swap to boomy?

[lucid olive]

only worth swapping if you think Balance is a more fun spec

[lofty depot]

It's not like boomkin is overly more damage than feral and can keep up over mage/lock with same skill and ilvl

[lucid olive]

both specs are competitive in m+

Feral a bit worse in boss dmg maybe but shouldn't matter much

keep in mind you're asking the Moonkin channel which one you should play so you're bound to get biased answers

[tardy mesa]

Tbh I am liking balance more, less to keep up with

[lucid olive]

same if you ask in Feral channel too

[lofty depot]

I'm objective what the helly

[lucid olive]

idk if that's completely true, maybe easier if you're used to playing range

[novel kettle]

After some tweaks : https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pAvHZAc8EkZkdaxTgn8Mok

But still not 95k 😄

[lofty depot]

Soon

[ebon void]

the main thing that keeps me from playing feral is indeed ranged brain

[novel kettle]

Ty for your time and help 😉

[lofty depot]

U have rm selected should be UE at the bottom left

That's like 0.2% wurely

[spice roost]

firelands loot delivered

[jaunty blaze]

👀

[stark meteor]

moonkin COOL and BIRD!

play MOONKIN!!

[zealous violet]

I wonder why the rankings on archon have feral and boomkin so far apart in damage - my guild was encouraging me to play boomkin over feral based on that

[analog moat]

I'm not sure I got an answer on this when I asked yesterday but on two targets I know you SS and not starfall but do you SS target 1, SS target 2, SS target 1, SS target 2, etc or do you just prio one?

[lofty depot]

Love me some funny data

[lofty depot]

U can target swap yes

It's 1% better to surge swap

[analog moat]

Ok, ty.

[zealous violet]

Well I guess now they are a little closer, last week it was quite a bit different. I try not to look at those tho. We have a feral in my guild that topped charts no matter where they were "ranked"

[analog moat]

Doesn't mean anything. I'm similar with my guild, I'm always 1-3rd in DPS but end up rank like 50. The rank is what matters.

Because it's comparing you against people your ilevel and your spec.

[spice roost]

ilvl parses are memes

[lofty depot]

The rank doesn't compare ilvl

Unless u look at ilvl parses which as pixel said, are meme lol

[analog moat]

Oh. Yeah, I only look at ilevel parse ha.

[zealous violet]

Gah, so whats the point of even having them lol

[lofty depot]

But yea, comparing urself to others on ur class.... But also some guilds have like 2 locks, 2 devs, 2 evokers. Ur just never gonna pad on that

[spice roost]

there is no point

[lofty depot]

Boss damage parse >

[analog moat]

Huh, interesting. I've always thought ilevel was what mattered and always got annoyed because my parse was always like 30 points higher than ilevel parse.

[normal pilot]

nah ilevel parse is for the copers, 'i'm jsut being held back by rng & blizz i'm a top player i just didnt' get teh drop"

[dense steeple]

didnt even try

[lofty depot]

U could be low ilvl, with giga trinkets then go, look I'm good

[lofty depot]

Ayo big

[analog moat]

Is that warcraft logs that shows your list orf bosses and highest dps?

[dense steeple]

yes

[analog moat]

How do you see it? I've never seen that particular screen.

[tawny nest]

Oh kinda a relevant question to this, my guilds been doing mythic early few bosses and my parse is atrocious (partly because of low ilvl, but I had like a 8 parse for Averzian)
Watching other boomy povs online and are we just padding the shit out of adds? Is that how we get higher parses?

[dense steeple]

okay so go to your browser and type in warcraftlogs.com then search for your character. boom bam

[lofty depot]

That's a lot of parses yes

If u don't want to look at that, look at boss dam parses

[winged moss]

which should i take?

got 2x veteran rings

[analog moat]

I got a myth Heart as well, sadly it sucks for us.

[winged moss]

soul catchers on heroic lvl and heart of wind on veteran lvl atm

@analog moat it says A tier ?

[lofty depot]

Sim > tierlist

[analog moat]

But yes, sim.

[winged moss]

Where are u checking this?

[analog moat]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/druid/balance/bis-gear

Towards the bottom.

[winged moss]

mehh this wowhead><icyveins shit

[spice roost]

plz stop linking nonsense

tier lists are fake for clicks

made to bait casuals

[grand ingot]

hello all my guild is needing a balanced, and im switching to it. is there any decent parsing players that do mythic in here i can dm a few questions to?

[lucid olive]

yeah @lofty depot loves getting DMs

[spice roost]

lol

[lofty depot]

Why can't we just ask questions here

[grand ingot]

ty. will probably answer most of questions, if i have any weird ones ill ask in chat.

[spice roost]

hahaha

[lofty depot]

he thinks I can find new dms on mobile

[grand ingot]

what is pandemic?

[lofty depot]

The last 30% of a dot

Generally 5-6s... Usually the icon glows or turns red

Like a "hey refresh me" thing

[grand ingot]

oh okay.

so really you only ever wanna refresh within that window

becuase its silly to do it early?

[lofty depot]

Preferably yes in that window

[sturdy pumice]

what are people doing on the dragons fight? im just STing my assigned dragon while keeping dots up on both when possible/using any procs from starweaver to dps the other dragon

[lofty depot]

In mythic u don't really assign dragons cuz ones not flying

But yes u surge

[sturdy pumice]

kk ty --

[grand ingot]

so aoe in keepers in raid, you are just dotting and spaming wrath? not worth to starfire?

until after 3 adds

[indigo ether]

why is raiderio showing Xals feet

[lofty depot]

Most of the time, it's not worth to be in lunar so yea

[analog moat]

APril 1st.

[indigo ether]

oh shoot

[indigo ether]

In M+ are u wrathing

even with EC?

[lofty depot]

On bosses sure, outside of eclipse

[grand ingot]

so its not worth doing starfall, unless it procs and is 3+ targets. better to spam starsurge

[indigo ether]

with like 2 targets

[lofty depot]

In EC mostly no

[lofty depot]

Correct

[indigo ether]

so wrath or SF on >2+ target?

[lofty depot]

No

In EC ur spamming starfire

[indigo ether]

except on bosses

?

[lofty depot]

Hm

[analog moat]

EC you dont' ever wrath as far as I know.

[novel kettle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hVxfHfYVNc2UsUjKUqfJDs

Ty again ! 🙂

[lofty depot]

Depends if ur a degenerate or not

[indigo ether]

cheating with a pvp neck

[grand ingot]

it says you only wrath in EC when you arent in eclipse

[lofty depot]

Why is pvp neck cheating?

[indigo ether]

IM lazy

[lofty depot]

Loser

[indigo ether]

thus its cheating.

[lofty depot]

Get ur funny up

[indigo ether]

Also my luck is dog water

[lofty depot]

Pvp doesn't take luck

[indigo ether]

not a single good trinket even lfr

[grand ingot]

so is convoke really good or is incarn a safe/simple way to play?

not sure what the best thing to do is. or if it really is a boss to boss.

[lofty depot]

If ur worse at the class, technically convoke is better

Most of ur damage in a channel + dumping astral power

Ezpz

[grand ingot]

ah okay. so probs good to get use to the class, then swap when comfortable with core gameplay.

[lofty depot]

Yes

[grand ingot]

is it always good to save one of the celestial alignments to run with convoke? like alternate between that and entering an eclipse youself?

[lofty depot]

Trees on CD
CA with trees
Convoke with CA

[grand ingot]

okay cool

[lofty depot]

There are fights where we're moving CDs around. But should focus on learning the sequence and getting used to the cds

[grand ingot]

yeah i just gotta remember to never let the dots fall off too

that has been my thing

[cinder helm]

Starweaver VS Rattle the stars in m+? What do you guys think

[lofty depot]

I prefer having fun

weaver gang

But might change when rattle gets better the longer shit lives

[winged moss]

is it better to play elune or groves in m+?

im not pushing atm and playing with randoms

[lofty depot]

Either work, keeper has more burst

If shit doesn't live on long enough, keeper likely better

[grand ingot]

when should i use my on use trinket in the opener? right before incarn?

sorry CA*

[winged moss]

@lofty depot when im looking at murlok.io im seeing players choosing denizen over moonlight in the bottom talent tree

when they're playing grove

but icyveins says moonlight

wowhead is entirely differnt

[wild dune]

isnt murlok.io just pvp

[lofty depot]

Generally macro it to ca

[lofty depot]

In m+ or

[mighty mica]

its only really recommended for pvp and not pve, yes

[grand ingot]

do you have that macro i can yoink

[lofty depot]

Foe for keeper does piss low damage

[lofty depot]

Uhh

[winged moss]

in m+

but some of murloc.io top players are switching around talents

[lofty depot]

#showtooltip
/use 13
/use 14
/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment

[winged moss]

Just trying to get some decent intel on it

[lofty depot]

Denizen gives more st dam

[grand ingot]

ty

[lofty depot]

Foe does piss in AOE regardless

[winged moss]

FoE?

[winged moss]

got it

[lofty depot]

What talent does rm effect

[winged moss]

RM?

my god with the shortcuts

[lofty depot]

Says the one that said moonlight instead of radiant moonlight

My god acronyms of the first letters of the talents, how dare i

[winged moss]

xd

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f9eHmncafrdJCh2Up6GXqS

with the dragons tho

[grand ingot]

you always wanna hit starfire before dumping ur 3 starsurges right

[lofty depot]

Why are we simming dslice

[grand ingot]

if not in ca

[winged moss]

what should we be simming instead?

[lofty depot]

If ur full asp no

If ur not in ca and ur in solar... U press wrarh

[winged moss]

hectic add cleave?

[lofty depot]

U don't press Starfire in solar

[lofty depot]

No rat, 1t5m

The fuck we hectic about

[grand ingot]

oh i thought it switched it to lunar, then you dump the 3 starsurge then go back to wrath

got it

[lofty depot]

Ur eclipse don't switch when ur in them

[winged moss]

1t5m for m+ sims?

[grand ingot]

oh so it will stay lunar

[lofty depot]

If ur in lunar sure

[lofty depot]

Yea m+ simming is cringe and bad

[winged moss]

Mhmm

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[winged moss]

So dragons alway sim better than radiant monlight in ST?

now im at a loss again

[lofty depot]

As keeper yes

[royal zenith]

what's the crafted hands called arctic

or leather items

[lofty depot]

Also they're not dragons

They're cats

Silvermoon agent's something

[royal zenith]

ty

[oblique reef]

is there a resource of talents to take per boss?

[fleet furnace]

So what should we be crafting? Sims telling me to make embellishment boots.

I've been burned by crafting some boots before.

[lofty depot]

Warcraftlogs

[lofty depot]

It's boots or gloves are the same uhh scale or w.e.

There are good boots in places u can get, so I crafted gloves

Wrist/belt/cloak I think all simmed 0.2% lower

[red nymph]

Are we going to be able to rock a hip sheath for staves in 12.0.5?

[fast elm]

I still cant get over the new casting animation for starfire in glyph of stars

Really weird

[lofty depot]

Maybe don't play gylph

Mmhm mmhm

[fast elm]

I like glyph better before this change for sure. Shit solution from you though, would prefer a revert 🙂

[red nymph]

How low of a parse do you have to be to start caring about casting animations?

[fast elm]

Don't care that much about parses atm, content is easier than ever

[red nymph]

The last thing im doing in combat is looking at what my character model is doing with their hands

[bleak junco]

Fuzzy chicken cute i never stars

[fiery veldt]

dude actually im 270 2700 which isnt crazy but im not getting invited to 10s 💔 why am i hated

[wild dune]

cuz 3k+ people que for 10s

[fathom nebula]

I did the test, Convoke hits L'ura while he/shes immune

[pseudo merlin]

cuz ur not 275

smh

you fell off

[stoic grotto]

it happened bro

[jolly delta]

since no one was donating we couldn't keep up 🥀

[fleet furnace]

It's some orb I gotta' pick up.

Hell naw.

[lofty depot]

huh

[fleet furnace]

It's telling me to make the root ones with a preset embellishment.

[lofty depot]

show sim

[fleet furnace]

Oh, is it not putting Azureweave Lining on the other piece? How do I get it to do that.

Arcano*

[lofty depot]

press the + button

[scarlet tapir]

How tf did u remember this

1 year ago

💔

I don't even play ts anymore

[jolly delta]

bro really betrayed me

[velvet raft]

should I always wait for starlord to drop before sending another eclipse/incarn? or is it worth it to reset it?

[warm briar]

Not resettable anymore if you’re talking about cancelaura

[analog moat]

What stats people putting on crafted gear? Tried simming but couldn't get all combinations.

[normal pilot]

Mast + crit or haste

[analog moat]

ty

[pseudo merlin]

what the fuck is happening here

[lucid olive]

this upsets me deeply

[pseudo merlin]

right????

can I report this

[vital hound]

kids are crying

thanks mate

[pseudo merlin]

😭

@royal zenith idk how I feel about removing the atlas

and making it poe1..

[lofty depot]

Based on procs, asp, and weather ur eclipse is max charges or not

[midnight hazel]

How bad am i trolling being EC instead of KotG on ST?

[cedar bay]

somone has a talent build for m+? ?

[pliant moon]

Sim it? there's your answer

[red nymph]

They are pretty even in patchwork. Kotg is a bit more movement friendly

[red nymph]

Not really

[coral cairn]

yo guys , how do we sim dungeon aoe tbh.. like i know there was a way to sim specific routes

i just want a less complicated way to sim things

[midnight hazel]

nah I figured someone in here would know

[midnight hazel]

Thank you ❤️

I feel less as bad

[cobalt junco]

does add damage done on chimaerus count to log?

[lucid olive]

yes

[cobalt junco]

i got a pisslow log on that fight and i tried to pad im sad

[wooden obsidian]

when playing elune's chosen, do you use wrath at all in single target encounters/bosses? Figured not since Lunar's calling makes solar eclipse impossible. (Specifically a question regarding mythic +10's and above but other instances may apply I guess)

[hasty dove]

When do we get buffs?

@wicked shuttle

[lucid olive]

yeah answer him

[digital berry]

you use wrath outside eclipse in ST

[lucid olive]

use Wrath outside of Eclipse and if the cast time of Starfire is less than your remaining Eclipse

of course only applies if you can't spend AP, cause if you can the GCD should probably go to that instead

[wooden obsidian]

Got it, thanks!

[cerulean wagon]

@lofty depot thanks for the help earlier. going back in to try and hash out your tips and critiques

i appreciate it

[pseudo merlin]

did you tag the right person?

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[wicked shuttle]

DONT NEED

[vital hound]

delete this

now

!

[delicate perch]

I missed it

[delicate perch]

[ripe slate]

every time my sim tells me to remove mastery i grow sadder

[lofty depot]

Why on bench if don't need?

[pseudo merlin]

[dense steeple]

does anyone recall the file dump thing somewhere i nthe wow folder that causes performance issues that needs to be dumped every so often? it was advertised like a month or two ago to help players as they prepared for midnight due to the nature of this vibe coded bullshit game lmao
not the log files, but something else

[gentle patio]

what does it cost monthly?

[pseudo merlin]

Blizzard is this really necessary?

[meager storm]

any sentence with "ur mom" is also reportable

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch hey i need your dad to buff arms again to make up for my lack of skill

thanks in advance

[pseudo merlin]

LMAO

Imagine your dad getting banned for that

[dense steeple]

one time i made a paladin named mymombeatsme

[digital berry]

my dad is an alcoholic

[dense steeple]

and it got force name changed immediately after typing "hello trade chat"

[pseudo merlin]

Yes I know

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

[delicate perch]

he said he can't buff anything by 50 billion % :\ sorry...

[obsidian fox]

What embelishment is best? or should I leave it blank

[vital hound]

hunt

[teal sphinx]

[obsidian fox]

This?

[dense steeple]

does that say hunt

[obsidian fox]

I also saw this one and sounds ok, but not sure if I leave it empty so I can add another thing later

[obsidian fox]

It does, but it doesn't say if it's best.

[vital hound]

you can just

recraft and swap

[obsidian fox]

From 0 or I can change without spending 20k?

[vital hound]

[vital hound]

just craft hunt mate

[dense steeple]

ok yes but you asked specifically which was best, and it was immediately answered

go with hunt, never think about it again

trust in the hunt

[obsidian fox]

I also asked about that other option and it wasn't answered ever, so ¯(ツ)/¯

[vital hound]

or dont

and just

enjoy yourself

craft what you feel

if you're only crafting today, it probably doesnt matter

[obsidian fox]

Wowhead says this, but I like having multiple opinions

[vital hound]

the guy that writes

wowhead guide

is a fucking IDIOT

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/hallelujah-amen-gif-11131055747834719614

[vital hound]

aint that right @lucid olive

[lucid olive]

is this from that news article

thats not what the gear page in the guide says

unless you look at late crafts i guess

[obsidian fox]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/best-early-season-crafted-gear-and-embellishments-for-all-classes-midnight-380801 Got it from here

[vital hound]

that would be a news article

https://tenor.com/ycIW.gif

[lucid olive]

yurr thats a bit outdated

but yeah you can still craft belt or wrists

it doesnt rly matter that much

in a few weeks crests will be basically limitless anyway

[dense steeple]

do what you want and vibe boss

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/uia6.gif

[dense steeple]

i cant even get a ring drop

[lucid olive]

did you see the spin off tv show

[dense steeple]

hardstuck ilvl

[vital hound]

god no

why do they keep making spinoffs man

just write something ffs

[lucid olive]

i enjoyed it

understandably only got 1 season and never really ended

cause who the fuck would watch it

[vital hound]

i rewatched

a most wanted man the other night

[lucid olive]

but it was some decent generic show

[vital hound]

what an exceptional piece of cinema

[lucid olive]

limitless show was just about some stoner loser guy who got hold of the pill and starts working with the FBI

[vital hound]

lol

[lucid olive]

so follows same trope as all those "cop shows with a gimmick" shows

[vital hound]

the limitless movie is so dumb

he takes the pill and makes silly money

but then needs banker man to give him a bunch of coin

[lucid olive]

yeah and the guy from limitless movie was like running for president or something

[vital hound]

surely he can just go type montage up some more money

[lucid olive]

damn thats a solid point

ruined the movie for me now

thanks

[vital hound]

happy to help

[tame dawn]

free surge and starfall procs from starweaver and cosmos dont stack right? like i cant have more than 1 of each proc at a time?

[open linden]

other than timegating - what stops us from essentially crafting all slots - if we do no mythic stuff? 😄

[lucid olive]

you can technically have all 3 spender procs at once

bit hard to get the 2 starweavers at the same time tho

[obsidian fjord]

dude we've been through this already

[dense steeple]

[dense steeple]

big ring andy

[lucid olive]

yeah only one of them

[dense steeple]

1 more than me

[delicate perch]

I suck

[lucid olive]

your ilvl is fake cause you private log

i was just informed

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/iZThdF0a83w.gif

[lucid olive]

man is too scared to share his logs smh..

[normal pilot]

sign of weakness

[lucid olive]

crazy when your character is named after a drive-by

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

best moonkin name in oce is pulsarpete anyway

that name is so good

[red nymph]

i dont get it

[vital hound]

pioneerpete

[red nymph]

who?

[vital hound]

the goat

if you know you know

[lucid olive]

🫗

[delicate perch]

real

[red nymph]

apparently this is the old mascot of the university i went to? i had no idea

[modest wagon]

is starfall on imperator padding

[red nymph]

adds gotta die one way or another

[delicate perch]

if you're the boomkin no

if you're not yes

[lucid olive]

thats right

[modest wagon]

got mogged by rival boomkin cuz he padded

i will come back stronger next week

[delicate perch]

rip bozo

[lucid olive]

i tried to pad on the little adds on salhadaar

no amount of padding to be done

[delicate perch]

LMAO

ret paladins smh...

[lucid olive]

ret pala horses in

divine storm

i gapped everyone on boss dmg tho..

[delicate perch]

those orbs will NOT harm his team mates

[lucid olive]

salhdaar is so much fun on moonkin

[red nymph]

saladbar is the only ST fight in the raid

[lucid olive]

have CDs for every intermission and send trees on add spawns

nah salhadaar on mythic is not an st boss

all the orbs you kill stay in the arena and get activated again each time new ones spawn

[red nymph]

spoilers

[lucid olive]

st fight

[delicate perch]

ST fight

[modest wagon]

do you guys have an addon for holding more talent builds

[delicate perch]

no

[lucid olive]

talent loadout ex

[modest wagon]

ok i tried that one in tww and it seemed to not work maybe i was too stupid

leme try again

[delicate perch]

the question mark after talent loadouts is so real

[lucid olive]

yeah i dont even know what talents i picked for that

[delicate perch]

maybe dragons maybe not

[lucid olive]

oh its meteor storm and communion and no foe

idk sounds dogshit

think i go kindling and shrooms tomorrow

maybe NB over communion

[red nymph]

its just a parse build. its just sniping as much add damage as possible

[lucid olive]

yeah im gonna pad like crazy

on the adds that get mass gripped and blown up insta 🙁

[red nymph]

i mean they only have to live for like 6 seconds for meteor storm damage

[lucid olive]

4

[red nymph]

3 Starfall casts

[lucid olive]

yeah cast them right before they spawn

[true viper]

send export text

[unique remnant]

How much Haste are you using for the EC build?

[red nymph]

yes

[vital hound]

11

[modest wagon]

How much damage is Vaelgors stare over other trinks?

[regal sonnet]

Hello, is there a reason why people take Rattle over Starweaver on some fights ? I thought the 4P incentive Starweaver over Rattle but maybe i'm wrong

[red nymph]

there is not a set damage amount

Pepe's vacation home is probably the greatest offhand ever

[dense steeple]

last week in heroic i was blue parsing, i took heroic vaelgor from vault and i immediately started orange parsing

[lucid olive]

better trinket = more skill

its really that simple

[dense steeple]

some might say... shrimple

[lucid olive]

yeah but im not one of those

[dense steeple]

same

[red nymph]

man... i really wish the snapvine slithered on the ground as a ground mount

[lofty depot]

Gear fed smh

[dense steeple]

fed what

nothing dropped lmao

all mail and plate

all my shit came from m+ except 2 items

[lofty depot]

I got a mythic agi staff cuz I tank keys

[vital hound]

is fastest leveling still to do delves calls and shit

[lofty depot]

Colamity

In shadowpoint

Fastest no

Least brainpower

[vital hound]

dont you do all the first time quests and hand in at like

88 then crafts

[lofty depot]

U do the delves and don't turn them in til 88.5 ish

[vital hound]

yea sweet

[lofty depot]

Then do tailoring to maz

[dense steeple]

killed vorasius

[vital hound]

gz

[vital hound]

yea bet

[frank solstice]

hello my friend who is allergic to joining class discords wants to know if he should just be sending eclipse off cooldown in raids

[dense steeple]

not locked in

[fair pasture]

is it better to cast teleport to moonglade before or after popping eclipse on single target

[dense steeple]

before

[vital hound]

yo we're rich

[dense steeple]

moonglade tends to have less interference and better game performance so it makes your dps go up by proxy of less input lag

damn mods awake

[vital hound]

damn i didnt finish writing down the code

[fair pasture]

thats what i thought, thanks, weird i dont see it in compendium

[dense steeple]

[fair pasture]

[dense steeple]

no

i am raiding i cannot help you

dreamgrove.gg

[frank solstice]

looks like the guide says send 1 if 2 stacks or otherwise build resources first, is this correct?

[hot apex]

send eclipse right after Dreamwalk

[dense steeple]

yes

never want to be without the eclipse as an option

[frank solstice]

are there any kind of newbie blunders he might be making? he's only getting like 40kdps single target in raid, I strongly suspect its just uptime as he's a melee player

[modest wagon]

ya im getting mogged by like 1-2k dps by the bala with the trinket

[dense steeple]

If he normally is melee

[modest wagon]

and im trying to cope that it's cuz of the trinket

[dense steeple]

he may not understand the fundamentals or positioining as a ranged

[dense steeple]

the trinket is huge

[lucid olive]

Overcapping Eclipse cd

[dense steeple]

a huge portion of ranged dps is understanding pooling the spenders properly and being in a good positioin at all time, understanding how to optimally do the rotation with minimal downtime is huge.

[lucid olive]

Generally with Incarn I like to use Eclipse first and then let it roll for a few seconds and build to Incarn

[frank solstice]

yeah he seems pretty aware of building up before popping eclipse

but I think he might be sitting on 2 charges

and ye looks like uptime is a big thing

[lucid olive]

And then it's just pairing treants with either incarn or Convoke and Eclipse

[dense steeple]

sitting on 2 charges bad for sure

build asp, about to cap? send it

[lucid olive]

Never press Force of Nature without either Incarn or Eclipse available

With Incarn as the highest prio

[dense steeple]

oh gamz q

how are you sending vaelgor

pull, every other incarn?

[lucid olive]

Yeah basically

I think a common mistake is getting so caught up in the Eclipse pooling minigame that you send an Eclipse at like 2:45 or something and don't have Eclipse for your treants at 3:00

Damn that was fast

[lofty depot]

inbetween trees and incarn

mmhm mmhm

[dense steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-burnt-peanut-mhm-mhm-mhm-gif-4266639228818891588

[lucid olive]

Yeah that's technically optimal to send it right before you incarn+starsurge

Something something mastery update

[lofty depot]

mmhm mhmm

[dense steeple]

i just mean like i feel like im holding CA for vaelgor sometimes

[lucid olive]

You just send it at 2m

Idk I just macro and forget

I pressed it at like 6s on pull timer for beloren heroic since we phased right before it came up again

1m Convoke on beloren goes hard

[dense steeple]

we havent even walked in there on heroic

not worth

[exotic perch]

feral felt so good on that fight

1min convoke too but movement was easy

[pseudo merlin]

again

bro what's going on with you

lock the fuck in

[digital berry]

its inevitable for FoE to desync right

likle it comes back up right as salhadars amp phase ends

cannot delay cds for that no

[dense steeple]

washed

unc

chopped

[nova latch]

Heya, how’s boomie atm in terms of performance? Is it strong enough in m+ and st to be conpetitive or slightly behind?

[worn sail]

looking at stats and tier set and its really sad to see the 4 tier set doesn't give more stats its just 1.5% extra dps

this is really sad to play with

[digital berry]

what

both the 2p and the 4p are huge

try and sim ur character with 4 random identical ilvl pieces that arent tier

[worn sail]

yeh check the stats

it shows clearly what extra bonus dps making difference

nice big diff bro

[digital berry]

catalizing 4 pieces of gear was a 10% dps increase for me

[lucid olive]

5% spender damage pretty good

[pseudo merlin]

relatable

[lucid olive]

Also the 4set procs generate 2ap inside eclipse and 4ap outside and each proc counts towards Orbit Breaker

[delicate perch]

yeah but they can't read or use logic so

tier bad

[lofty depot]

"really sucky to play"???? why do u need to notice the random damage proc

u should be noticing the damage from the spenders

[delicate perch]

looking at the stats

[obsidian fox]

What worries me is gold, weapon takes like 30k ish to craft, and 2nd best is surely from raid

[delicate perch]

30 whole k???

[dense steeple]

work some OT, grab a token

gg

[obsidian fox]

Aye I got like 80k only

[obsidian fox]

Perhaps I'll have to do that

[delicate perch]

so you got 50k left and a BIG upgrade

sounds kinda worth

[obsidian fox]

Is it that big? I mean I remember from shadowlands weapons are good upgrades, not sure if they still are, been like 5 or 6 years since I played wow

But I guess weapons for dps are always the best

Aln'Hara Cane still the best weapon to craft, and best for raid right? I'll buy mats rn

[delicate perch]

it's worth unless you're greeding a myth weapon in vault

really depends on the content you're doing

if you're raiding I'd craft it if you're doing delves and wq I wouldn't care as much

[obsidian fox]

Raid mostly, some M+

[delicate perch]

but ya staff (theres also a mace but no clue if that would cost more)

[lunar rune]

is locus walker's ribbon any good in m+ or is this an eye of kezan situation where it's not that good if ur not constantly chain pulling. there's a lot of rp shit in these dungeons too

[fair pasture]

I love dreamgrove cute mode ><

[lofty depot]

it might be good on some dungeons

but theres plenty that it wont be

[fair pasture]

[obsidian fox]

Ok, and can Embellishments be changed once it's crafted? to check which ones better, I'm planning on putting Hunt but Devouring looks ok.

[lofty depot]

u can sim which ones are better

but yes u cna change them

[lunar rune]

thanks ^_^ i figured this might be the case, i guess it's still a front loaded int buff regardless

[obsidian fox]

sims are still in raidbots, right?

[lofty depot]

yes

[obsidian fox]

Cool

Thank you

[solar crane]

yo chat where do i get my extra 6th spark

i did my weekly and 4 from catch up

[sage axle]

if i did a mythic bop run, will i only get leather or any gear like heroic

[lofty depot]

did u do the original world soul

assuming its not ur main or something

[digital berry]

in my case i was missing one because i didnt do the world tour quest

[solar crane]

do i gotta

do campaign?

[digital berry]

The midnight world tour quest

That makes you do an event in every zone

Gives a spark

It’s… not super short unfortunately

[delicate perch]

maybe not for you...

[drifting nova]

died to a nightmare dot aaa

big scam

[digital berry]

If you start at the wrong time you’re going to have to wait like 45 minutes for the damn defense no

[delicate perch]

is 45 minutes a long time

[hexed portal]

Okay I'm losing my mind...is there a talent that like removes Solar Eclipse? It doesn't matter what I cast, I get Lunar every time

[jaunty blaze]

Yes its called Lunar Calling

[hexed portal]

I'm playing KotG

[jaunty blaze]

Then no

[hexed portal]

Cool...I'm broken then

[jaunty blaze]

Eclipse is based on which builder you cast before

[hexed portal]

I know it's supposed to be like that, but no matter how many wrath's i fire off, I'm not getting solar eclipse

[jaunty blaze]

That's weird

[lofty depot]

Make a video mmhm

[hexed portal]

i'll have to get to it later

[hexed portal]

Changing talents back and forth fixed it, thank god

[livid jay]

gm boomies

[jaunty blaze]

Gumo

[marsh canopy]

I have a balance druid as an alt and just received my first Great Vault, I have two mythic items to choose between, wrists (haste/vers/leech), offhand (crit/mastery)
Any tips on what to do? I haven't crafted anything with my sparks yet so I was thinking of going the offhand, boost it to to 289 as well as craft a 1 hander with embellishment. I won't run any mythic raids on this character. Does this make sense? Should I go for mythic wrists instead?

[livid jay]

That would definitely be the best thing you could do for long term but it is a bit less crest efficient than crafting a 2 hand weapon. But you should probably still do that. Crit-Mastery are decent stats aswell

you can just craft a wrist too

[obsidian fox]

If my vault is garbo, should I just take the coins instead of equipment? It looks like this

[river lichen]

Does anyone have any recommendations for resources or video guides for balance? Ive been following the wowhead guide, but when comparing logs I see people doing things pretty differently. Especially the opener is nothing like what wowhead says with most people going straight into incarn.
The compendium linked here doesnt mention anything about the opener.

[ripe jacinth]

who is paper

[tulip snow]

did you read past the first section?

[toxic tusk]

free my boy

[river lichen]

I did, but apparently im just blind I guess. I swear Ove been reading through it multiple times and wondering why opener wasnt mentioned at all.. wtf

[scarlet tapir]

What the fuck

[marsh canopy]

awesome thank you! I'll probably craft a 1h then

[keen perch]

is Arcanoweave Lining a better choise to craft on wrist or belt with myt crest? Because if i´m not wrong, wrist gives less stats than belt, so it would be better to have wrist crafted and belt myt 6/6...

[delicate perch]

do you have a myth belt

[keen perch]

not yet ^^´

[drifting nova]

wait when did humans lose rep bonus

I've been scammed

[delicate perch]

warbound rep

[drifting nova]

wut

humans had 10%

wdym warbound

[jagged haven]

myth belt (have champion) or myth tier chest? (have hero tier chest atm)

[drifting nova]

that doesnt do shit for rep I still need

chest prob

[sage axle]

if i got HOF on m chim and join a diff guild that has older HOFs and I got CE on them, do i get HOF for those bosses to

[jaunty blaze]

You can use the title yes

[sage axle]

friend said he would get that but i dont think that sounds right

[jaunty blaze]

Hof title is attached to the guild

[sage axle]

really? for HOFs you didnt earn?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[sage axle]

if you didnt get any HOF and join a guild with HOF do you get it

[jaunty blaze]

You don't earn hof the guild does

Yes you can use the title as long as you got ce

[sage axle]

dang

so i have CE on a bunch of raids, i can join a guild with HOF as a casual and be able to link a HOF achieve in my name?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[sage axle]

damn

[jaunty blaze]

I mean its easy to find out whether someone earned it or not

So no clue why anyone would flex it

[sage axle]

true, but it can be really helpful to link to get into early raids at the start of tiers

i link CEs to get in when undergeared and it works. HOF achieves would work better lol

[drifting nova]

me when I link a ce achieve

[nova latch]

Heya, how’s boomie atm in terms of performance? Is it strong enough in m+ and st to be conpetitive or slightly behind?

[drifting nova]

balls

[delicate perch]

bamkin blasting

ignore kekkers

[pseudo merlin]

Ignore kekkers

[drifting nova]

I'm going insane, topical considering its for the insane

[still iris]

someone got a preset for maximum st burst damage?

[livid jay]

just the keeper convoke tree i assume

maybe some things u could do to make it pump more in opener

[wooden obsidian]

I asked yesterday but also, when in elune's chosen talent tree, when do I stop using starfire and use wrath instead (when outside of eclipses)? At 2 targets? Is starfire better at 3+ and 2 or lower is wrath outside of eclipses?

[jaunty blaze]

Wrath outside of eclipse for single target

Idk the threshold when its worth to cast starfire instead but I would with like 3-4+ targets

[livid jay]

in EC tree starfire is always better even on ST in eclipse

and outside, just do whatever

get ap press eclipse

[orchid fox]

Anyone else feel like we do no AoE damage in m+? Like on An average pull I might be at 100-120k and the other dps is at like 200k

Maybe I’m just so used to playing feral where we can sustain like 200k on 5 targets. I guess boomie just needs bigger longer pulls?

[livid jay]

i been bursting 700k+

but ye longer pulls better if u play EC

keeper is better for current +10 or +12 keys

[lofty depot]

5 targets is bad. If the tank pulls 1 pack at a time u flame them

[orchid fox]

That’s what I figured. My guild rank has massive pulls. But in pugs I feel handicapped lmao

[delicate perch]

just don't pug?

[waxen thicket]

does anyone have a great CDR manager ?

[lofty depot]

Gamz has one linked on wowhead or in #1473018731687841853

Prob maybe

[kindred pine]

Is this trinket list based on ST? im using Crucible trinket in m+ and looking for something stronger

[steel fulcrum]

I"ve been simming a lot of trinkets lately and somehow my champ 263 gaze of the alnseer is still better than 276 soulcatchers, vessel and wraps.

[elder sorrel]

yo, is the 32 stat gems still the go to gem to craft? is the 0.15% crit thing per different gem not worth it?

[steel fulcrum]

even in mythic+

[livid jay]

how u simming m+ bro

[kindred pine]

this is what i was fearing lol

[static sluice]

Can anybody explain to me why most people seem to play Incarnation in Raid instead of convoke?

I know sims are always a little dodgy in raid encounters but Convoke seems to be simming over 5% better for me

[steel fulcrum]

not simming just raw testig for mythic+

[livid jay]

ah ok

[steel fulcrum]

I've run a few multi target sims patchwerk +3 and gaze still seems to beat them out despite being 13 ilvls lower

[livid jay]

do not run multi targt sims

[steel fulcrum]

if someone has better data i'd love to see it

[livid jay]

apl is not ready for it atm

[delicate perch]

how about some vibes

[royal zenith]

define multi target

it's fine to just add 3 or 4 targets wdym

[delicate perch]

between 2 and 20000000000

[royal zenith]

if we're talking dungeon routes then yeah

or dungeon slice

[steel fulcrum]

IDK I've love a more nuanced trinket tier list

[royal zenith]

don't we all

but you can't know something for sure until it actually went live

[delicate perch]

idk any sims I've ran there is no competition for gaze and stare for keeper

ribbon stacks longer

[steel fulcrum]

that's my experience too

[lofty depot]

Think so, I haven't simmed aoe to see if it's changed, but presumably hasnt

[lofty depot]

Cuz there's adds everywhere

And convoke isn't particularly good when adds are present

[lofty depot]

What is wrong about the trinket tier list as it is

Gaze and ribbon out sim like every other trinket

[steel fulcrum]

Seems like Gaze should be S tier. It's beating out trinkets even being down 13 ilvls

on the same tier

my two cents

[lofty depot]

Or u can take it as gaze is #3 instead of thinking it's some how substandard for being in "a" vs "s"

[steel fulcrum]

[lofty depot]

Tier lists confusing the minds as always

Tierlists are fake, the silly letter won't hurt u

[eager raft]

Good morning @royal zenith

[steel fulcrum]

All I'm saying is Gaze seems way closer to ribbon than anything else on the A tier list

[lofty depot]

It was also bugged, and fixed like 4 times and gamz likely just hasn't changed anything on his table

Because the table doesn't matter mostly

It's a list of items, still means gaze is #3 weather it's #3 in S or #1 in A

Pretty shrimple

[eager raft]

not sure I agree

[lofty depot]

Didn't ask

[delicate perch]

you would loot either ribbon or gaze and just equip it

[lofty depot]

^^

Just loot myth gaze

Ezpz

Next week I get myth vaelgors from vault surely

[delicate perch]

I'm looting myth gaze from vault

[royal zenith]

I dunno, gaze is not on the level of stare

and stare is definitely S-tier

[eager raft]

hehe

[fickle lagoon]

yum from weekly lol

[delicate perch]

[royal zenith]

it's champion ilvl

wdym yum

[delicate perch]

but also tbh it's a strong on use in a season with no good on uses apart from it

[royal zenith]

you can get a heavy mastery hero neck from pvp quest

[delicate perch]

do you know if theres a catch for that

can I slam all previous weeks this week

[eager raft]

Guy said PvP without a hint of irony

[livid jay]

jokes on me both went to healers

[royal zenith]

I don't know

[delicate perch]

please know instead

[royal zenith]

cause I probably wont set foot in pvp

at all

[eager raft]

the streets are saying you can do them all at once

[delicate perch]

the streets always have my back

[slender island]

i confirm you can do all at once and you dont have to do actual pvp, since you can just slam the "training grounds" bgs against bots, ez

[delicate perch]

big upgrade inc

[lofty depot]

Imagine if the pvp neck had 2 slots on it

Community would be rioting

[royal zenith]

will probably do it in downtime (weekend)

if it's just some training ground shit

easy uppy

[dense steeple]

Yes

[spice roost]

whats the name of the neck

[dense steeple]

The pvp one?

[spice roost]

ya

the haste mastery one

[dense steeple]

Uhh

Im wearing it

Idk

[spice roost]

bro

i want to sim it

[dense steeple]

Novice combatant's necklace

[spice roost]

ty

[dense steeple]

I hadto find it sorry

I'm at work so cant just open character panel irl