balance

[cinder eagle]

I need some help. I have the Locus Walker's Ribbon in my vault and myth t-hands. I don't know what to pick. My other trinkets are an random D tier trinket and Vaelgor's Final Stare, but maybe i take the hands for main stat? I'm unsure. I could already get my set with cata charges

[livid jay]

can find here on how to log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/help/start
but warcraftlogs website is currently down again sometimes

[livid jay]

are you raiding?

[cinder eagle]

yes

[livid jay]

cause only source for myth track is m+ vault or mythic raid

[frozen osprey]

thanks a lot

[livid jay]

so myth pieces pretty rare if u are not giga mythic raiding and even then

[cinder eagle]

thank you

[celest rampart]

and pray you dont get a fury of elune proc xD

[livid jay]

just get the tank between you and the aggro'd mob and its usually fine 😄

or press meld

[celest rampart]

never usally an issue

[wind harbor]

Hello guys 🙂 I'm sorry if this is being asked often but I am having trouble understanding the ST priorities for keeper on dreamgrove.gg
For instance this part:
Use Starsurge if any of the following conditions is true:

• You are about to overcap on Astral Power.
• You need to move.
• The Ascendant Stars buff from your Apex Talent is up.
• You have a Touch the Cosmos or Starweaver's Weft proc.
  My questions are:
• There is no consideration whatsoever for BoaT being active or not to cast Starsurge while in eclipse ? If I have spent my ascendant stars and thus three stacks of starlord, I still keep spamming wrath inside the BoaT window instead of rapid-firing more starsurges that might crit?
• I see the "Use starfire if you have an Ascendant Fires proc" is above the "Use starsurge" prio, so I should cast starfire asap also?
  Like the correct order based on these priorities looks like it's Force of Nature > Eclipse > Starsurge (Because near cap) > Starfire (Because proc and not near AP cap) > Starsurge > Starsurge > Spam wrath until near AP cap ?

I used to be parsing around 70 on balance druid in dragonflight, and skipped TWW. Only came back at the end of the xpac to a very different rotation especially in raid and I'm lost XD (Add to this that I'm RL so it's very hard to focus on my raid-specific rotation that I can't practice in dungeons + the mechanics) Right now I'm parsing at around 20 when I'm doing well.... I'd like to get better XD

Thank you all in advance for your help!
Edit: my char on warcraft logs if it's any help

[drifting nova]

congratulations or sorry that happened

[livid jay]

@jolly delta is it intendet that the overview doesnt show st prio?

[delicate perch]

st is for loserrrrrrrrrrs

this is padseason

[tawny linden]

From the logs on chimaerus I can instantly see that you are insanely overcasting moonfire and insanely undercasting wrath, that for sure something that most people here would notice. I am not a boomkin expert though, so I will leave more comments to more expert people

[livid jay]

not sure why exactly theres nothing for the force of nature damage amp on the prio list because that would imo make a difference. Looking at boat doesnt really make a difference cause the value of boat diminishes over time and by the time you have sent your surges to use ascendant stars and get starlord up your boat is already quite low value

[delicate perch]

@lofty depot get to work bud

[livid jay]

im not even tracking boat anymore

[delicate perch]

boatwho

[livid jay]

and for the starfire you just wanna send it inside the damage amp of CA/Incarn and probably also while trees are still up ye

[wind harbor]

What do you mean "read the pin, get to work" ? I am coming from the compendium and I've also read the wowhead guide... I'm here with questions about these ^^

[delicate perch]

no that is a person

he will look at your logs when he awakens

[wind harbor]

Ahhh ok ^^ sorry lol

[tawny linden]

The first very thing is to work on spell priority for sure. That is were on chimaerus is lacking most, probably

[delicate perch]

ya that seemed very toxic for me if you didn't realised I pinged him

[wind harbor]

at first i saw the @ but I thought maybe it was a typo and you did mean for me to read the pin XD

[livid jay]

eregrith if you come from older boomkin and this new eclipse is new to you you might be having problems with the eclipse. Gotta stop thinking about it like the cyclic gameplay of old eclipse and more think about it as a small cooldown you want to prepare for before you press it

also going afk with your trinket for 2 seconds right after pressing your cds seems like mega grief

press the trinket before 😄

[wind harbor]

Is it still better to pool AP near the end of the Incarn window to get back to 3 stacks asap in the next basic Eclipse or should I try and squeeze in as much surges in that window as I can before building back AP outside of eclipse and re-enter again when I'm near cap/have a proc?

[wind harbor]

Yes every time I do that I'm furious at myself lol

Ahhhh also do you guys have a UI replacement for the weakauras we used to have like Afenar ? I miss those and I just stuck with a shitty bar + basic UI cooldown / buff tracker and ... blerg 🤮

[livid jay]

generally if you go into eclipse asap after leaving one, a couple minutes into the fight you will run out of eclipse and incarn charges so you are not in a rush to get into eclipse again as long as you are not overcapping on charges

so spend at end of eclipse and then pool outside of eclipse, make sure sunfire moonfire are on 15s or more and then go into new eclipse

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/46YaBkjXzZn2r9Kx/5/5

also take a look at this, its your imperator kill analyzed by this website

some helpful stuff on there, your uptime needs to be better and you need to cancel less casts

[livid jay]

most people just use the built in cooldown manager with an addon called better cooldown manager

theres import codes for the cooldown manager and for the addon on wowhead ui section

[wind harbor]

Ok thanks guys I'll see that

I need to spend time on the dummies to make it automatic because right now in auto mode i'm spamming starfire as if i'm in a dungeon >_<

[livid jay]

lmao wowanalyzer

@woven moon

[wind harbor]

Lol is that the old pulsar thing that used to trigger eclipse ?

[obsidian tapir]

we craftin wrist ?

[lucid olive]

He quit it's @warm hollow

[livid jay]

oh whoops

when was it that pulsar got deleted?

before df?

[raven obsidian]

Hello guys is it normal that the tier set hand item is siming better than the shoulder ?

i already got the chest

[livid jay]

link not screenshot

pls

[raven obsidian]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j2w6HqXcenx1THK484nrfi

[livid jay]

its because your current sholders have best stats (haste mastery) and your current hands have bad stats (big vers)

generally the hands are bad tho

cause they are haste vers

[raven obsidian]

ah ok got it

i didnt select any think from the vault yet

i got one hand myth that i coudl use catalyst charge on it

and tier set shoulder hero

should i choose the hand + cata ? since it gives more intel regardless of the bad stats ?

[livid jay]

how many cata charges do u have?

[azure flume]

what embelishments should I have on my crafts?

1 arcanoweave 1 sigil hunt or 2 arcano

[raven obsidian]

3 now

and 1P ( chest)

[livid jay]

what stats do the hands in vault have?

[raven obsidian]

haste / crit but willl use cata any way

[livid jay]

no dont cata them

[raven obsidian]

so it will be haste vers

[livid jay]

what you do is

[raven obsidian]

ok

[livid jay]

cata some hero pieces that are not hands so u got 4 set

take hands from vault and dont cata them cause stats better

[raven obsidian]

hummm got it

[livid jay]

because when u have 4 set, cata charges start dropping from every content

so u got infinite cata charges anyways

[raven obsidian]

so the sim is not really accurate

[livid jay]

to use on myth trach gear when u get more

wdym thats a dungeon droptimizer sim

it only ever sims 1 item

no combinations of multiple cata charge uses until 4 set

for that u need top gear sim

[raven obsidian]

ah ok

so i pick the hand

without cata

i wait for raid run with the guild ?

[livid jay]

if thats the only myth piece ye

[raven obsidian]

or should i rush mm+ to cata should leg and head ?

[livid jay]

yea just cata some hero pieces u get from m+

as i said when u have 4 set u have infinite cata charges

cause they drop from m+ and bosses after

[raven obsidian]

yes true

with the achievement

[livid jay]

ye

[cedar seal]

how can i sim the crafted leather items with arcanoweaving? on profession epic it does not show up in the items list just the base item with no embellishment

[sullen wadi]

clic here

[sudden flame]

add it in topgear with item searcher

[cedar seal]

ty guys

thought i could do it in droptimizer for professions 🙂

[trim ridge]

hello moonkins

is chicken still bugged on paladins

or am i allowed to push n

[livid jay]

What bug?

[trim ridge]

random procs of things like fury will randomly silence you during the aura of peace ultimate

[livid jay]

That's a feature

[trim ridge]

:]

[sudden flame]

[restive jolt]

wait thats a thing?

i was wondering why i got silenced out of nowhere if so

[dreamy cove]

suspicious compendium popup...

[vital hound]

@jolly delta we've been hacked!

[deft crown]

i was thinking like wtf i am being silenced for ages and it just kept refreshing

[round field]

thats great

[jolly delta]

oh no... hopefully the hacker is kind enough to share part of the revenue...

[vital hound]

gamz rn

https://tenor.com/hQIPtFyhgfI.gif

[jolly delta]

in reality this is all part of an elaborate AB testing to see how would people react to ads

[round field]

badly

adds on dreamgrove = boycott

[vital hound]

gotta get the bag man

[round field]

tc quality goes down

proceeds to want to monetize it

we need our lord and savior jundarer

[silver mirage]

Guys i need some help, I have 250 Veteran Ring and 263 Champion Ring atm, Shoulder 263 Champion Set Piece.

The question now is, on some BiS Lists the ring from the Vault is BiS, on other BiS Lists the Set rings Occlusion of Void / Light are BiS. Should i just take the Mythic ring or Mythic Shoulder Set piece?

im not Raiding, i just play M+

I prefer to take the Rins, but if i will replace it anyway with the two Occlusion of Void / Light, its just a wasted slot, but on other side i need some luck to get these xD

[lusty echo]

Do our silence work on salhadar adds in mythic ? Can we preplace it and it works when they are interruptible ?

[hexed saddle]

question to the loa crafted ring, is it better to have multiple unique gems to increase proc number or does only socketing mastery / haste proc this loa more often with same number of procs? What do you craft af 285 this week (having staff already)

[slender island]

pretty sure you already know the answer (sim it); i myself have crafted boots as it was the biggest power increase with the gear i had

was going to craft neck but the pvp quest chain neck is pretty good and changed the decision

[lucid olive]

i would take the shoulders

if you don't raid and just do m+

you shouldn't look at a bis list for how to gear your character

[silver mirage]

why not? If the Ring is overall BiS, why should i dont take it if its a higher upgrade too

[tardy hare]

Foe isn't played in ST anymore? What happened?

[lucid olive]

bis lists are made for search engine algorithms

they're there to make you click on the page

and not a guide for how to gear your character

there is nothing like "overall bis" or "mathematically best items you can have"

[silver mirage]

i bet these are just simt with all items together

or not?

[lucid olive]

and there are like 10 different combinations of items that are all within margin of error of each other

[slender island]

small difference between talents, the compendium goes into this in detail in the talents section https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium#talents

[lucid olive]

so how can you say there is a singular best in slot combination of items

when they are equal to about 10-11 other combinations of different items

[silver mirage]

if you simm all 10 or 11 combinations

[lucid olive]

those rings are also a 2set bonus and are only really taken in that gearset because of the heavy mastery neck

[silver mirage]

there are spreadsheats with every sims

[clever egret]

Are boomies popular?

[lucid olive]

and i guess you have a choice here right

[lofty depot]

Thank God there's bosses that are only st

[lucid olive]

either you believe the bis list or spreadsheet merchants

[drifting nova]

in the club, yeah

[lucid olive]

or you believe me who put together the bis list the spreadsheet merchants use

[wooden relic]

If sth „bis“ is off by 0.1% from it‘s alternative it‘s not really bis though is it?

Or just doesn’t really matter

[junior stirrup]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n1w8Q5YtpRjYjZv6yJ28hi Would it be advisable to take the ring here? I have mythic wrists from vault. Currently 3/9M close to salhadaar kill

[silver mirage]

i know what you mean, but overall there will be in the Late Late Game a combination whats stronger, 2 normal rings or just the 2 set rings

[junior stirrup]

1800 dps is crazy

[silver mirage]

if the two set rings are that good, i aim to get these 2 then

[lucid olive]

the set rings arent that strong

and since you don't do raid you don't have steady source of myth track items outside of vault

which is why i said i would take the shoulders

[lofty depot]

Is there a sim with actual.good embells and not the ones u have in that sim

[lucid olive]

the rings are really just whatever

the rings get taken in that gearset because of the heavy mastery neck from L'ura

[junior stirrup]

oh fuck i forgot to add

arcano weave didnt i

[lofty depot]

Yes

Or Sunfire

[junior stirrup]

tyty 1 sec

[lucid olive]

but you could swap one of the rings out for an algethar ring and it would be the same

the bist list just looks better with 2 set rings on it innit

[lofty depot]

It's probably boots craft, but long term it's better to get new gloves and cara tier properly

[silver mirage]

The Platin ring is mythic track too, and i have a bad ring atm, if i get any mythic shoulder, i just convert to a set piece

[lofty depot]

Have u considered farming the correct rings

[lusty echo]

Do our silence work on salhadar adds in mythic ? Can we preplace it and it works when they are interruptible ?

[lucid olive]

and where are you getting myth shoulders if you don't raid

[lofty depot]

And not making rash decisions

[lofty depot]

Yes
No

[silver mirage]

where do i get mythic rings?

[lofty depot]

Typhoon works

[lucid olive]

myth shoulders worth a lot more than myth rings

rings are piss slots

[junior stirrup]

Hmm it wont let me change embells

when i import the items

[lofty depot]

In ur vault, later instead of crafting that silly one. U can farm good hero rings

[lofty depot]

Is wrong belt

It's like silvermoon agents or w.e.

[undone solstice]

I feel I'm reading mixed messages on this, is it bestto cast Moonfire, Sunfire and Fury of Elune inside or outside Incarnation/Eclipse?

[lofty depot]

Generally u cast them prior

And or refresh them prior

[undone solstice]

Fury of Elune prior to Incarnation as well?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[lucid olive]

yes if both are up at the same time

[lofty depot]

Foe is generally just an asp generator

[junior stirrup]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9QkCYtyM7GXoaK9HegUaey

better?

tempted to take waist here, if i simmed correctly

[undone solstice]

Nice, thank you! I always tried to use it during Incarnation

[undone solstice]

Right, so not that strong?

[junior stirrup]

just gives you more asp within your cooldown window, so better to use before. then you can use your CD window for starsurges and wraths etc

if that makes sense

[undone solstice]

nice, thanks, that makes sense

[lofty depot]

Correct, there are times u do press during

But if it's up prior, u press prior

[undone solstice]

Oh nice, perfect, thank you

is radiant moonlight a valuable talent then?

[lofty depot]

Idk which of those items are ur vault

[lofty depot]

As keeper generally not

As ec yes

[junior stirrup]

none of them, i took the wrists already

it was just for what to craft now really

[undone solstice]

I use Elune's Chosen

[junior stirrup]

i assume the ring makes less sense than the wasit since the diff is small

[dark trail]

Any suggestions/advice on this would be great. I'm running champ 6/6 SC charm and Keepsake which sims higher than wraps. Been reading in hear about this loa ring also but was previously planning to craft myth wrists (i have the occ void ring hero currently...)

[lofty depot]

U took vers wrists?

I'm confused

[junior stirrup]

no i have myth in my bag

just forgot on sim

[grim mirage]

it's indicated like this 🙂

[junior stirrup]

i took those yeah only good option

sadly

[lofty depot]

I'm on mobile the other items don't show it

I know how to read the items

[grim mirage]

Oh ! Maybe i don't know on mobile 🙂

[lofty depot]

I would e taken sockey if those wrists were beat option lol

[lucid olive]

arctic reviewing vaults at work again

[frank grove]

does any1 know what are our BIS-Trinkets for M+?

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[junior stirrup]

yeah the wrists arent great but

they were a decent increase

[lofty depot]

What was the increase

[junior stirrup]

i have been farming keys all week and still no dropd, had vet

[silver mirage]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/62PPmbQYQkK7vFSEi7xh1y

but if rings are Piss slots, why Shoulder only +899 upgrade and the ring +1.458 ?

Both are just 9ilvl upgrade and the ring before was Mastery/haste

[junior stirrup]

500 dps

at base

best option i had

[lofty depot]

Cuz u have piss rings silly

[lofty depot]

Sockey worth the same

[junior stirrup]

oh well

i already took sadly

[lofty depot]

I k

[lucid olive]

the ring is 22 ilvl upgrade not 9

[obsidian fjord]

rings aren't too bad for a first tier of an expansion

jewellery/sockets survived better than usual

wont compete with big main stat slot

[lucid olive]

hero track rings are also infinitely farmable

[storm juniper]

Good morning friends! I'm a new WoW player, I started playing in this expansion. I'm having a lot of trouble dealing damage to my Mythic+ stat blocks; I'm always the last DPS. Could you help me with a guide?

[lucid olive]

not including hero track rings in the sim is disingenous

[silver mirage]

263 ring into 272 and 263 shoulder into 272 shoulder, wdym?

[lucid olive]

you know what way that sim will angle before even pressing run on it

your 272 ring replaces this

[silver mirage]

but its just both same itemlevel upgrade

[junior stirrup]

think i probs take the waist in this case

[silver mirage]

you are trolling me right?

[lofty depot]

That's not how math works

[lucid olive]

tell me why did you ask for opinion on your vault at all

if you're gonna be this stubborn when someone responds

[lofty depot]

U have piss low rings and ask why sim wants a 20+ ilvl upgrade

I wknder

Go back to Xenas and get ur rings silly

[silver mirage]

in this combination it just replaced the 263 one

wtf

[fathom nebula]

Where do i send my bug report, wheres the sound!

[lucid olive]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pc9dhWBuS4VV1up9NmrTNs

here, i added 2 rings from +10s

that are infinitely farmable

(the choice doesn't matter)

[silver mirage]

i want to talk about this one, cause you try to call me silly

[lucid olive]

(the item with highest value is the one you are least likely to get from other sources)

[lucid olive]

nah it's okay man

you can flip a coin and take whatever item

it's your character

live your life to the fullest

i'm sorry for standing in your way

💪

[twin lotus]

lmao was gonna say its weird dreamgrove has ads now

good one

[haughty sparrow]

If i were to wishlist only 2 trinkets to get from raid for first slot dragons trinket and do I go for Ribbon or Gaze for 2nd slot? Considering mythic raiding as a main focus.

[silver mirage]

dude im thank you for your help and infos, but i just try to understand where is the reason to say "rings are piss slots" if the ring with worse stats but same itemlevel upgrade are better then a shoulder upgrade with the same itemlevel upgrade

[twin lotus]

I am so using "That's not in my rotation"

[lucid olive]

rings have no main stat

[silver mirage]

learn how to read sims or learn math before call ppl silly lol

[lucid olive]

see

this is why you get a reaction

[silver mirage]

yea but if the secondary stat are better?

[lucid olive]

i'm gonna stop responding now

[silver mirage]

he started to call me silly and cant read sims

cause you cant say "yea you are right, both upgrades are just 9 i level and not 22"

[lucid olive]

you asked for thoughts on vault and i gave them, this just spirals into needless bickering

[fathom nebula]

Which site is that? 😄

[silver mirage]

i just want to understand the reason of it and you cant explain it right

thats why dont answer now xD

[lofty depot]

Says the one that has piss low rings and thinks not farming good ones and crafting worse other ones is smart

[twin lotus]

go on dreamgrove.gg and click on the ads 😄

[silver mirage]

who tf is talking about to craft a ring?

[fathom nebula]

Im waiting for it 🙁

[limpid skiff]

hey guys this is the dmg breakdown of my blanace druid in raid , he seems to be doing half the dmg of most balance druids. i want to help him but i don't know how , is there anyone can take a look at the loggs and tell me what should i tell him. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cHh3b6RnraCqWPgG?fight=19&source=81&type=casts

[lofty depot]

He using CDs wrong

[livid jay]

thats not on dreamgrove prio list

[lofty depot]

His damage on surge is piss low, assuming he's dumping outside of eclipse

[silver mirage]

im talking about thats both upgrades just 9ilvl and not 22ilvl like you said, i dont said the ring is better or worse, i just talked about its 9ilvl. maybe dont skip school and learn some math before you flame some ppl in the internet if you are wrong lol

[lofty depot]

I'm not wrong

[silver mirage]

you said its +20

[limpid skiff]

how can i help him , is there a guideline or something i can recommend

[lofty depot]

250 is -20 from a good ring slot u can farm yes

[silver mirage]

but on my raidbots sim i just take the part where he replaced my higher ring

[lofty depot]

That's not what I was saying

U can farm hero rings

[livid jay]

gotta get rid of that *0.63 damage multiplier debuff because they're not casting enough and cancelling too many casts

[limpid skiff]

anything other than being active ?

[lofty depot]

U have piss low and bad stat rings

Go farm the good ones

[silver mirage]

no one talk about hero rings.

I can farm Hero shoulder too

[lofty depot]

Correct

U should do that too

[drifting nova]

saw a war with the hero nexus point duo rings and I'd not seen asingle one drop in 15runs smh

[lofty depot]

Both of which aren't rash decisions ur trying to make to justify the other

[livid jay]

pool before cooldowns not in cooldowns

[lofty depot]

U can also put the correct items u shouldve farmed, in a sim and see it's just better

[silver mirage]

I was asking, what would you take, the 9ilvl increase set shoulder or just the 9ilvl increase ring.

I dont take the ring if the two set rings are that insane Occlusion of Void / light

i just try to understand why you think the shoulders are better, thats all

[obsidian fjord]

who calls eating food a bio break

[twin lotus]

1 hour smoke break

[lofty depot]

Well one of those is tier easier ilvl the other is ring that's piss bad

[livid jay]

@limpid skiff they are also instantly sending second incarn after the first one when they should be holding it for force of nature cooldown
-> gotta line up cooldowns properly and pool resource before you go in

[lofty depot]

Both of which are bad

[drifting nova]

thats not in my rotation

[lofty depot]

I'd be taking socket, and farming correctly

But sure as shit not taking ring

[limpid skiff]

thank you dude , i will try to tell him that

[silver mirage]

I just wanted to understand the background, then came the statement that rings are generally crap, and that's when I started to sim

[livid jay]

into pretty much instant eclipse after that second incarn -> gotta pool some ap before using eclipse otherwise its just wasted

epic combo

[silver mirage]

I simply refuted your false statements, and that's why you're upset now, because your calculation is wrong and you can't admit it was.

I'm grateful for your help; I just wanted to understand why rings are supposedly crap.

[obsidian fjord]

simply refuted 💅

yes the ring simmed better than he said

o well

[delicate perch]

I simply refuted your false statements, and that's why you're upset now, because your calculation is wrong and you can't admit it was.

I'm grateful for your help; I just wanted to understand why rings are supposedly crap.

[obsidian fjord]

listen to robot and go farm some farmable rings

[delicate perch]

@vital hound @teal sphinx

[lofty depot]

False calculator

Surely

[silver mirage]

both are just +9 item level

[vital hound]

that was a fun skim

[silver mirage]

sorry i dont have the best english

[vital hound]

I simply refuted your false statements, and that's why you're upset now, because your calculation is wrong and you can't admit it was.

I'm grateful for your help; I just wanted to understand why rings are supposedly crap.

[silver mirage]

atleast i can math 🙂

[lofty depot]

U don't have best math

[delicate perch]

me when I lie

[silver mirage]

not beat but i can use it corectly

[lofty depot]

Sometimes my phone autocorrects sometimes it doesn't

[dense steeple]

and he asked it at 5 am too as if im not a 9-5 kinda guy

[livid jay]

i beat math

but i cant use it correctly

[lofty depot]

But ur questions are easily answered by go farm rings, take tier items when u can

[silver mirage]

thank you

[lofty depot]

Or take ur funny vault item and then replace it later

I'm just out here helping everyone weekly with their vaults making better decisions

[silver mirage]

thats what i mean, if i gonna replace it anyway, i dont want to take it 🙂

[obsidian fjord]

welcome to walmart

[lofty depot]

That's literallly

LITERALLY WHAT HE SAID

Holy fuck

[obsidian fjord]

you are actually permanently angry

[lofty depot]

Shut up rat

[torpid hornet]

welcome at IT Life

[silver mirage]

yea and im asking, why the hell should i replace the 272 mythic track ring?

[obsidian fjord]

peace and love brother

[silver mirage]

if its maybe the best ring what i can use, thats why i asked maybe are Occlusion of Void /light set are that good, that i will replace the trash 272 ring anyway for 272 Occlusion of Void/light set

thats my only question

[jolly delta]

I was considering on adding it but then I was already 1h too late with the release so I gave up.....

[lofty depot]

Well he showed the sim with better rings, did u not look at it

And or with rings that are farmable at the same rate

U can see the difference between the hero of said ring to upgrade it over it

U would replace that ring later cuz it's not the best one

And he showed the sim with said hero ring and mythic shoulder

Idk where the confusion is

If u had better rings, that ring wouldn't look like that

[slender island]

later in the season when you have spare sparks you can just craft rings too

[lucid olive]

i put that guy on ignore like 15 minutes ago

save urself

[silver mirage]

but with which ring i will replace the mythic ring?

[lofty depot]

Ew

[silver mirage]

dude i really just want to understand

[lofty depot]

I think ur actively ignoring information stated to u

The set one is better at the same ilvl

Ur take myth ring to then replace later

Or take shoulder which u dont

Idk how that's hard to understand

[silver mirage]

for sure its better to farm some rings right now. I dont want to take the best choice for NOW, i want the best choice for Lategame

thats what i mean

[lofty depot]

Well that's actually not what either of us said

The ring u want to take isnt the best option later either

Are u so for real

[obsidian fjord]

are you so for real dude

[silver mirage]

yea, and i just asked why

[delicate perch]

logout

[silver mirage]

cause you maybe say, you want in late game the set rings

[normal geyser]

😄 I appreciate all the hard work people have put into writing the guides. Went from grey parsing to blue parsing last night 🙂

[lofty depot]

Literally said there's better rings

Idk where the confusion is

Maybe chat move so fast, u don't see

Mmhm mmhm

[silver mirage]

for sure you just sim and take the best rings with your best stats and upgrades.

I just wanted to know, is the Occlusion of Void/Light set that insane good that you only want to get these rings

[lofty depot]

No, u take the best option for the longest term gain that also helps current

[orchid fox]

I’m loosing brain cells reading this at work

[silver mirage]

stop it then

[obsidian fjord]

yeah but its a bit fun

[normal geyser]

Just quit your job then and read it while at home

[obsidian fjord]

cold orange man is incensed

[lofty depot]

Don't stop, maybe he makes better decisions later

Show logs yet or

[livid jay]

hahahaha same rn

[obsidian fjord]

i just need the chinese diplomat guy to show up and it will be a nice combo set

[lofty depot]

So we're not showing logs

[livid jay]

@drifting nova someone called you

[jolly delta]

I think you're being needlessly rude fwiw

[silver mirage]

but if i dont care about current, just longest term xD

I just want to know, why should i replace the 272 Ring in late, for what

Im just a casual who plays sometimes

i just want to understand, why you say now why i should replace it anyway

[lofty depot]

The why is there's better rings

[undone solstice]

Crazy how hard it is to get into M+ groups 😂

[lofty depot]

As stated multiple times

[delicate perch]

wrong

[pallid bay]

u just click bear

insta pop

[undone solstice]

hahahah

[jolly delta]

Are these better rings farmable?

[silver mirage]

and i just want to know, which one for example

[jolly delta]

And which ones if yes

[delicate perch]

click bear or click start group

[fathom nebula]

Fair enough, the free TTS generators out there wouldnt be able to replicate Xals voice anyway 😄
Unless you go full Microsoft Sam

[orchid fox]

BUT WHHYYYYYYYY LMAO

[silver mirage]

you cant farm mythic rings in m+

[lofty depot]

I'm gonna call that therapy line on ur April fools ads

[lucid olive]

both sides are

its just shit slinging for 0 reason at this point

[dense steeple]

the world ttruly knows how to make my day awful

[lucid olive]

ignored and moved on

[delicate perch]

not OCE though

very innocent

[lucid olive]

OCE upside down

[undone solstice]

yeah, waiting for boyfriend to get home before doing my key, just doing some for gear now

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

i worked extra hard so i could take today off and do a bunch of keys

[jolly delta]

I disagree. The guy is just simply asking to tell him what farmable rings will be better

[dense steeple]

first things first: "can you drive me to work and come pick me up pretty please, i dont wanna drive today"

[delicate perch]

(we were raiding, time to be toxic now though!)

[normal geyser]

Why not?? Isn't that just +12 or something

[obsidian fjord]

he's simply asking a question after simply refuting some basic math

[dense steeple]

sure whatever, thats only an hour of time total.

[slender island]

maybe not the best time to further discuss rings with everything else going on 😅 but my point is that when you get to the stage that you have nothing to send crests on, no other slot to craft, why not make 285 rings with the highest simming stats? we compete with rings & neck with every other class so the odds of getting a myth track one aren't great

[jolly delta]

You don't drop mythic gear

[orchid fox]

But the sims can just tell him what rings are better

[delicate perch]

what was his argument even about

[dense steeple]

now my boss is like "hey team lets all have a lunch meeting today, meet at 11. (its 45 mintues away from my house and he doesnt know i'm wfh today)

[jolly delta]

Ok but then why do we even bother to have this channel

[silver mirage]

and still no example which rings are better, what i asked 15min before

[delicate perch]

a myth m+ vault ring?

[obsidian fjord]

rings

the details are not important

[lofty depot]

I'd have to sim other slots first to see what's better

[delicate perch]

casual players should 100000000% take a mythic item

anything else is insane

[jolly delta]

He's asking why shouldn't he get a myth ring in vault if there are no farmable myth rings otherwise

[dark trail]

Any suggestions/advice on this would be great. I'm running champ 6/6 SC charm and Keepsake which sims higher than wraps. Been reading in hear about this loa ring also but was previously planning to craft myth wrists (i have the occ void ring hero currently...)

[silver mirage]

you all say i can farm better rings like the 272 mythic track item, but you trolled me that hard xD

[dense steeple]

i wouldnt take it if it was like a vers ring

[pallid bay]

can i get some help with my vault

[delicate perch]

if it was the only mythic item

and no good trinkets

[lofty depot]

No we said u can farm other rings that make ur funny 272 ring not as good of an upgrade

[silver mirage]

thats it

[delicate perch]

I would for crest save

[dense steeple]

hat

[delicate perch]

he is gaining 0 mythic items otherwise

[dense steeple]

my personal opinion is ring because big and myth

[lucid olive]

socket

[dense steeple]

i wish i could get some jewelry

[lofty depot]

Prob, cuz cata helm from first boss surely

[jolly delta]

no soma we just said that we don't get myth rings here

[lofty depot]

Soma got piss low rings too

[dense steeple]

big if true

[silver mirage]

i will never get a mythic ring from other sources only from vault

[dense steeple]

my day was scheduled to farm those rings

[silver mirage]

thats why i just want to ask

sorry

[lofty depot]

Where r u getting mythic shoulders from

[dense steeple]

and now i have to make 3 hours worth of fucking trips for no reason and also go bury a dog

[obsidian fjord]

brave to post a screenshot with such a shit mog

[normal geyser]

What's the addon you're using here??

[delicate perch]

first time seeing a soma post?

[obsidian fjord]

man

[dense steeple]

brave to assume its a shit mog

[obsidian fjord]

i guess so

[delicate perch]

(it is)

I was about to type he'll even defend it too

[dense steeple]

mad cause dont have it

[delicate perch]

[obsidian fjord]

it also looks like you are playing min graphics

[dense steeple]

?????

[lofty depot]

Lol, eadros said u can craft those fun y 285 rings later, u cant craft tier slots if u need tier in said slot

[dense steeple]

thats ragebait

[obsidian fjord]

you can't have good mog game with min graphics

[normal geyser]

Soma has a bad PC confirmed

[obsidian fjord]

thats obvious

[dense steeple]

im on full max settings on a 9070xt

[normal geyser]

Yeah bad PC (jkjk)

[jolly delta]

oneguyed

[junior stirrup]

is it worth to craft hands this week? oir just get from mythic raid and craft a waist

[dense steeple]

bad pc

[delicate perch]

who is that even to

[obsidian fjord]

that looks like mine actually

[lucid olive]

nice light pollution

[lofty depot]

Lol what's funny soma, I have that as a mog named funny birb

[dense steeple]

the no name guy who said my mog is bad

[normal geyser]

Couldn't even go with Elune's purple

[silver mirage]

Vault too, but i could farm hero shoulders too atm, cause you get many catalyst charges

and if i take the ring, i get the achievment for discount crests for my alts. I think i take the Shoulder, but i just wanted to know which rings are the best, if you say i would replace the mythic track ring anyway

[livid jay]

lmao mines probably got the same power but looks nowhere near as nice

[lofty depot]

U can get the achievement by farming ring

[silver mirage]

i know

[dense steeple]

you have a 9800x3d with 64 gb of 6400 ram and a top of the line gpu?

[lofty depot]

Ok so that's a non point to the argument of "I want to take non bis item"

[jolly delta]

ffs can this poor guy get the name of two rings please

[livid jay]

Nah but a 9800x3d with 32 GB of ram and a RTX5080

[normal geyser]

No, I have a 9900X3D, with 96GB of 6400MHz RAM and a 5070Ti

[lofty depot]

Smh, beige fans

[lucid olive]

you mean like the sim I sent him 30 minutes ago?

[silver mirage]

you are right with the shoulders, its the best and safest option now.

I just want to talk about if you know which Rings are the best, thats all, idk why the other guy is so pissed

[livid jay]

its closed anyways and they are way more quiet than anyhting else

love noctua fans by now

[jolly delta]

idk if you did then he's autistic

[lucid olive]

why do you think i ignored and moved on

[dense steeple]

youre being bottlenecked

[livid jay]

by what

ram?

in wow?

[dense steeple]

0 airflow, no ram

[livid jay]

xD

nah

all the airflow acutally, shits cool

[lofty depot]

Well he showed the sim that was better, we also talked about the set rings, there's also funny crafted ones. Pick one that Sims next/better

[livid jay]

and 32 gigs of ram has been enough so far

[dense steeple]

im getting 350 fps in mid raid combat, and my shits got no heat

[livid jay]

not buying more in this economy

[dense steeple]

20 chrome tabs open at all times

[normal geyser]

😩 Tell me your secrets, I only get about 150 in Voidspire on max settings during our raid

[lofty depot]

Just wait til funny bonus rolls come in

[obsidian fjord]

that's extreme cap

[dense steeple]

a 3000 dollar pc optimized to the highest performance output it can get

[normal geyser]

@dense steeple

[lofty depot]

Gonna be so fun, explaining game show probability

[silver mirage]

but on my sim the ring is better, cause both are just 9ilvl upgrade, but w/e i dont want to bother right now

[normal geyser]

I too have a $3000+ PC

[silver mirage]

thank you

[obsidian fjord]

i doubt its even possible to get 350 in wow max settings in raid

[livid jay]

96 GB of ram xD

[normal geyser]

It is at the 10 slider with RT maxed

[livid jay]

what u gonna run with that

[normal geyser]

🙂 LLMs

[livid jay]

ah

ok

valid

[obsidian fjord]

🥱

[lucid olive]

drying up 10 rivers and 5 lakes

gg

[normal geyser]

I also needed the RT and CUDA cores or else I would have went with the 9070XT as it is 5% faster in raster situations

[normal geyser]

My own water 🙂

[dense steeple]

unfortunately you wasted on a 5070, the 9900x3d is worse than the 9800x3d as well based on its single-CCD design

[delicate perch]

you can't just own water

[obsidian fjord]

he just did dude

[delicate perch]

[jolly delta]

need to clean my shit up

[obsidian fjord]

he owned that water

[livid jay]

wdym bro i got water in my bottle u telling me its not mine???

[obsidian fjord]

almost as much as i owned the orange cold guy

[delicate perch]

no that's chatgpts now

give it back

[livid jay]

even the fan got germanized

[livid jay]

i use gemini

[delicate perch]

I'm aqaurius but idk why that matters

[normal geyser]

Yeah I did note that the 9900 was slower, I just didn't think it would make over 100% performance difference. The 5070Ti is kinda awful, but RT/CUDA is needed for my work LOL

But noted!

[dense steeple]

its not that oyu have a bad pc

[normal geyser]

It is just not optimized

[dense steeple]

game is poorly optimized and i feel like i got lucky

[jolly delta]

oh no we're emptying the Pacific ocean noooo

[dense steeple]

you been watching the liquid streams?

[normal geyser]

I got unlucky with the silicon lottery too, my 5070Ti is in the bottom 25% of all 5070Tis

[dense steeple]

theyre going back and forth about how some of them are getting like 50 fps and others are getting 200

theyre literally all playing on the same build

game is slop

doesnt matter how good your pc is rn

[normal geyser]

Bro fr???

[livid jay]

game is literally dogshit

look at cpu usage during cpu capped gaming

[normal geyser]

That blows my mind it is varying so wildly

[livid jay]

such a joke

[dense steeple]

you lottery your parts in your pc, just to lottery if the game will play nice anyway

[lyric crystal]

is the statsweight sim good now for druid balance?

[jolly delta]

Has never been

[livid jay]

surely it was alright back in the day

[lofty depot]

Surely

[glass current]

Hi everyone.
Sorry for the dumb question.

But how do I properly SIM?
Which options should I choose?

I mainly play Mythic+ with Elune

[lofty depot]

There's no good way to sim m+

[surreal frigate]

@glass current there is a good section on it in the compendium

[lofty depot]

The AOE sim is being worked on, but dungeon route sims have problems aswell

[obsidian fjord]

just sim freaking singular target

and enjoy your freaking life dood

[dense steeple]

cant disagree there

[livid jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7pdOJS3d0M

[dense steeple]

its not the war within

[livid jay]

unlucky

[obsidian fjord]

confucius say the war within you never ends

[dense steeple]

confucius was also a little bitch tbf

[obsidian fjord]

bold comms coming from the guy in a shit mog

it was even just a raid set with no changes

[livid jay]

whats wrong about that

is your name asmongold

[obsidian fjord]

theres nothing wrong with the riffraff doing that

[dense steeple]

hes just upset he doesnt have this one

[obsidian fjord]

but those that hold themselves to a higher standard will naturally object

[obsidian fjord]

?

[livid jay]

back when he was still watchable and he did those mog competitions

he always hated people who came in a full set

[wanton socket]

Is the soulcatcher trinket actually good or ?

[obsidian fjord]

he was definitely not watchable when he did those

[lofty depot]

Define good

[obsidian fjord]

sure dood

sim your freaking guy though dood

[dense steeple]

nothings changed hes still not watchable

[obsidian fjord]

he was watchable a very long time before that

i was young i dont remember a lot

[livid jay]

he always did those no

[dense steeple]

oh yeah pre-mog competitions he wasnt bad

[obsidian fjord]

when he was more of a youtuber

[dense steeple]

but once he started doing those competitions and shit things went downhill and has never improved

[wanton socket]

It seems decently but im not sure if its actually good. Always some trinket that sim fine but are actually dog

[obsidian fjord]

and he still played the game actively in his shit boomer guild that gave him all the loot so he could pad on add fights

[lofty depot]

That's vessel

Well now that Sims worse cuz of the base % they put on gathering orbs. But nonetheles

[livid jay]

takakura why have i never seen u in here before

are u NA

[wanton socket]

Ok so Soulcatcher mythic aint a bad option, since i got some wrists as other options and i rather not take those if the trinket is good

[lofty depot]

Its a little worse than gaze/ribbon

[dense steeple]

he gotta be NA to try and ragebait about a pvp mog

[obsidian fjord]

no

i havent spent much time here

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-bear-howdy-hi-gif-14706197

[obsidian fjord]

there he is

[livid jay]

u havent spent much time here

but u know about dr kekkers

[obsidian fjord]

who is that

[livid jay]

the chinese diplomat guy

[obsidian fjord]

oh right

he leaves a lasting impression

[livid jay]

u gotta learn your lore

[obsidian fjord]

same with the really angry cold man

[livid jay]

say it after me

FREE

PAPER

[lofty depot]

He doesn't understand, he will

[drifting nova]

forgetting those that came before paper smh

[lofty depot]

But he hasn't posted logs, so until he does. He just kekkers but default discord icon

[obsidian fjord]

is there lore on why cold orange is so heated

[fossil otter]

do we starfire with elunes chosen in st?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[drifting nova]

say I wont post my log

[livid jay]

i thought csh left on his own

[fossil otter]

thanks

[drifting nova]

who

[lofty depot]

U don't know what heated means

[drifting nova]

who

[drifting nova]

the after effect of preheat

[obsidian fjord]

i just realised when you said this

this is what you remind me of

[livid jay]

happened when they made him orange

[drifting nova]

like asking how long a piece of string is

[obsidian fjord]

let me remember the movie name

[drifting nova]

green mile

[lofty depot]

This should be good

[obsidian fjord]

this one

this is you

[lofty depot]

Doubt uve ever seen that movie

Just seen shorts prob

[obsidian fjord]

that is absolutely correct

[dense steeple]

arctic wishes he was that guy

[obsidian fjord]

its funny i thought it was called a few angry men from that

[lofty depot]

Assumes man stating facts is angry

[obsidian fjord]

you are angry

[lofty depot]

U dont know what anger is

[lofty depot]

That's not anger

[dense steeple]

[lofty depot]

Maybe we should order code red

Then again he hasn't seen probably that whole clip, and just seen the "u can't handle the truth" 3 second snip

Ironically he's kaffee and I'm jessep

And he's the angry one

Jessep just out here doing his job, correcting behavior

Mmhm mmhm

[drifting nova]

what you on about unc

[obsidian fjord]

he's so old

[drifting nova]

watching movies from the 80s smh

[lofty depot]

Movie is from the 90s

[drifting nova]

but got that 80s vibe

[lofty depot]

Well it's tom cruise, wcyd

[drifting nova]

mr possible

[lofty depot]

The top gun

[drifting nova]

watching the second gun

made me realise I hate the first gun

also half the total movies I've watched from that decade

[obsidian fjord]

when you say "the 00s" out loud how are you supposed to say it

[dense steeple]

the ooooooohs

[drifting nova]

noughties, dont be silly

[normal geyser]

"two thousands"

[drifting nova]

but maybe thats brit centric idk

[wary ruin]

hey its normal my sims only prefer crit when i have 900 crit?

[obsidian fjord]

but theres no 2

[drifting nova]

do americans call it ticcies?

or toeses?

[lofty depot]

Depends on other stats prob, but seems high nonetheless

[wary ruin]

like idk why keep sim crit instead of haste/mastery

[normal geyser]

Doesn't matter, you replace it with the millenia + century that it is in.

[drifting nova]

do NOT trust big sim

[lofty depot]

Well I couldn't tell u without seeing said sim

[normal geyser]

It just makes more sense

[drifting nova]

na no way anyway actually says that

[normal geyser]

Who says "the noughties" or "the ohohs"? No one 😂 Most say "The two thousands" when referring to between 2000 and 2010

[drifting nova]

I had to think about it

[lofty depot]

Often times think people just say thousands or early 2000s.... And then Twenty tens, twenty twnetys

[drifting nova]

but americans dont say nought

[limpid kernel]

I have existential dilemma: hero Gaze of Alnseer or myth tier legs? raidbots push me into trinket but I believe we'll be at mythic dragons in about a month or so, at least

[drifting nova]

so you say some dumb shit like two thousandths

[livid jay]

yo gamz/vinter who of u made the consumables simming string on DG?

[normal geyser]

No TH

[obsidian fjord]

well it sounds like that guy does

[normal geyser]

Buddy has a lisp

[lofty depot]

What's the likelihood u get hero gaze over other people

[lucid olive]

british english > american english

[drifting nova]

like I said, the only form of english that matters

english english

enjoy your tic tac toe

[obsidian fjord]

~~british english ~~> american english

[lofty depot]

Kekkers and funny yellow man get along, who would've guessed

[normal geyser]

You mean X's and O's?

[limpid kernel]

I'm in loot council but trying to be objective XD but really everyone needs it so like 20%

[drifting nova]

thats canadian/irish

dont ask me why

I just know it is

[normal geyser]

Guess where I am from

[lofty depot]

When r u killing chimaerus

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/potatoes-sam-gamgee-same-po-tay-toes-gif-5319438

[normal geyser]

Close enough

[limpid kernel]

today reclear of hc

[obsidian fjord]

senegal

[drifting nova]

50/50 gg

[lofty depot]

Mythic silly

[normal geyser]

Canada where we say X's and O's LMAO

[limpid kernel]

damn bro, I guess 2-3 weeks

[normal geyser]

Also Tic Tac Toe tho

[drifting nova]

found out few days ago canadians mix and match american and english

[obsidian fjord]

I didn't even get three guesses?

[drifting nova]

and thats the worst of both worlds

[lofty depot]

Would take legs, go farm soul catchers

[normal geyser]

Yes we do, we also use Frenglish

[limpid kernel]

thats the expert input I needed to validate my thoughts, ty mate

[normal geyser]

Which is a greater sin

[drifting nova]

the french arent real

quebec is just larpers

[normal geyser]

Exactly so we are using a partly made up language with American english

[obsidian fjord]

all languages are made up

[drifting nova]

except finnish

[normal geyser]

*especially finnish, FTFY

[obsidian fjord]

finnish is made up too

they just didnt get to finnish it in time

[normal geyser]

The finns have a +/- 1% chance of being real

[wintry widget]

it is me, the april fool

[wary ruin]

okay this is an example: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wJ7mNDCLoacogVSUzSYpzP
i actually have crit 935, haste 518, mastery 766, i checked others boomies and dont have a lot of crit, but sim keep saying me take some crit items

[minor anchor]

best m+ build only on astral power, org

[sleek dirge]

Hey, ive seen several Logs with this : trinket and incarn launching at the same time.
So i figured it must be a macro.

I've tried to do it with my trinket (Wraps of Cosmic Madness) but somehow, it never launches my trinket and goes straight into Eclipse.
/use 14
/use [@cursor] Celestial Alignement

Any ideas how to do this properly ?

[lofty depot]

Which item in particular

[lofty depot]

Wraps has a cast

[sleek dirge]

meaning it cant be in a macro with incarn ?

[lofty depot]

Correct

Well it can, but u don't want tto

[sleek dirge]

mmh sad life. Thanks 🙂

[lofty depot]

There's ways around it but shrug, u don't want to

Also, who's ever log that is, tell them to press foe prior to incarn

[sudden flame]

thats not what the sim is saying at all

[lofty depot]

For instance the waste is haste vers, which is giga bad

The 2 better ones have Crit mastery

Cuz mastery gooder, it prefers that

[eager raft]

the waste

[wary ruin]

but actually i have a lot of crit, and low haste/mastery, so shouldn't the crit value go down?

[sudden flame]

its nto about the stats its litterally telling you higher ilvl = more damage

[copper locust]

dslice or patch plus 5 for mythis?

[lofty depot]

All the back items in there are the same

U can change w.e. stats u want

[wary ruin]

ye but on rings i have 1 upgrade 6/6 hero and one mythic, and this sim are on 6/6 hero

for example

[cobalt junco]

for 2nd embe is it best to craft on hands?

[lofty depot]

Simming m+ is cringe, patchwork 5 has just as many problems with finding information as dslice/dungeon route

[copper locust]

ok let me rephrase..how do i sim for mythic plus?

[lofty depot]

And it says to finish the set

Which is haste mastery

Huh

[lofty depot]

U dont

Not yet at least,

[wary ruin]

yeah my question is, if i have 900 crit actually, should i keep following the sim who tell me take more crit?

[sudden flame]

yes one of your rings is 272 when you are simming 276 rings against it notice how they are all replacing finger one which is the lower ilvl one also 0.1 dps is litterally nothing

[lofty depot]

Sim > feelings

Unless I tell u ur feelings

[drifting nova]

I feel like your sim is going to sim wrong

[sudden flame]

you should farm the other nexus point ring and use that with your mythic ring thats what the sim is saying

[wary ruin]

i saw a lot of boomies going with less crit thats why i asked that

and me sims a lot of crit

[sudden flame]

all the other items are litterally just ilvl diff

[ruby badger]

People are just taking what they can get rn

[lofty depot]

Simming convoke can have that effect aswell

[drifting nova]

the only logical way to look at it

is there a convoke build yet

[lofty depot]

Haste does nothing for convoke

[inland stump]

If I have gaze and foe is there even a point in going for locus walkers ribbon?

[lofty depot]

What is foe

[inland stump]

My bad i mean vaelgors

[lofty depot]

Gaze is the same or better than ribbon until like 7m on sim

[inland stump]

Gotcha

[wary ruin]

So which talents i need to sim normaly?

[lofty depot]

Depends how ethical u prefer to be

How many fights are u currently playing convoke on lol

And how many do u anticipate playing convoke on

[drifting nova]

holy god my vault is bad on both chars

[lofty depot]

Ur simming a specific build that does the most ST.... But we don't run that build until later when all the shitter adds die

[red nymph]

when yall are doing keys, do you actively try to line up you eclipse with FoE or is FoE mostly just sent on CD? It feels weird to send FoE out of an eclipse but i cant tell if its better one way or the other

[lofty depot]

With EC, u send on cd

It increases ur damage

[cobalt junco]

do we now move 2nd craft with embe to gloves with myth crests??

[lofty depot]

If it sims the best for u, sure

There's a few options u can choose

[cobalt junco]

as in diff embe too? or is it just arcano lining that sims the best?

[lofty depot]

Likely arcano, but u can sim the others if u want

[mild chasm]

@lucid olive
looks like something broke in the compendium

[lofty depot]

Looks fine

Changes in aoe opener but nonetheless

[orchid fox]

I find that I do very low AoE dps in m+ with elunes. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong but I feel like I’m not lmao. At least compared to feral

[polar leaf]

I am looking for a "all dots applied" script/addon that changes the color on the target when all dots are applied 😛

the ones i find when i put in the plater doesnt work

any1 that can help me out here im struggling!

[lofty depot]

If things die fast that will happen

[digital berry]

I don’t think those are a thing anymore are they

[normal pilot]

nobodys' figured out that hack yet

[lofty depot]

Keeper higher burst

[normal pilot]

you can hack it to change based on how many debuffs are on the target

but that includes all debuffs and not just sf/mf

[polar leaf]

dang

[livid jay]

just make the dot icons massive

[normal pilot]

it would work you just need to not run any debuff talents

[livid jay]

same effect xD

[lofty depot]

Read icon > read funny color

[livid jay]

comor

[orchid fox]

Yeah doing 10s with packs lasting like 15 seconds feels real bad on boomie lmao. I’m used to the instant satisfaction on feral

[polar leaf]

is that on plater or platynator

or game enhancement

[lofty depot]

Think the ones that have been linked with that are all plater

But unsure

[drifting nova]

is it worth catalysing for 4pc even if its champ

or is 4pc w/e

[lofty depot]

Yes

U get cata charges after for doing content

[polar leaf]

high or low drop chance ?

sorry for nooby questions but i just came back after a huge break

[lofty depot]

I got 7 and did 70 keys, so 1 per 10 keys seems fine

[polar leaf]

cool

[Vessel of Tortured Souls] or [Heart of Wind] together with [Vaelgor's Final Stare]

[drifting nova]

9s are cooked right

same as last xpac

[lofty depot]

If u like collecting orbs, vessel

U can beat the sim if u have more than 60% gather rate

Locken

[normal pilot]

sim is 40%

maybe blizz will actually make it usable by 12.1

[lofty depot]

Did they change it again?

Could've sworn I saw it as 60

[normal pilot]

it's 60% miss rate

[lofty depot]

Oh miss rate lol

That means u can giga beat sim

Locken

[lusty echo]

Can we sim easily embelishments on raidbots ? Or do we have to put them one by one in top gear ? Cant find a way to put embelishment in "epic profession items" droptimizer

[normal pilot]

i'm not sure i've ever seen a log over 60%

but i guess possible if you really focus on it idk

[lofty depot]

Top gear

[cobalt junco]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w96jTquSaCspi92CSaeEBd i sim this right?

[lofty depot]

Should sim gloves and boots it's generally within 0.3

[cobalt junco]

i simmed all no?

no mb

sorry 1 sec

[lofty depot]

I only see bracer belt

[cobalt junco]

yaya my mistake

[orchid fox]

FoE and Starfall are uncapped right?

[lofty depot]

No

Foe is sqrt, Starfall is 20

[jolly delta]

squirt

[lofty depot]

Yea like ur mom

[jolly delta]

she's dead...

[lofty depot]

Lost too much liquid?

[orchid fox]

Ok sorry for questions lmao. Coming from feral main. It feels like I need to learn calculus to play balance correct. Or I’m just over thinking

[lofty depot]

Over thinking

[quiet drift]

Overthinking

[lofty depot]

Press button go brr

[quiet drift]

Keeping full uptime is 90% of the class

[lofty depot]

So u think if u have 21 targets ur not gonna Starfall?

Surge is worse after 3

[orchid fox]

So uptime on both dots. Build AP before eclipse / incarn. Dump AP

foE right before eclipse

[lofty depot]

Essentially yes

[orchid fox]

And FoE before trees before eclipse / incarn if not in elune

[lofty depot]

Yes

[orchid fox]

Gotcha.

Thanks

[cobalt junco]

i have the mats both crests and spark. i have other items selected why no work XD

[lofty depot]

Are u sure u are crests added

[cobalt junco]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

[lofty depot]

Are u sure u have items selected in the other slots with embell

That link doesn't help

[cobalt junco]

bruh

[lofty depot]

U'll have to take a picture

[lofty depot]

Ok, go up to the top and take a picture of ur crests that likely say 0 and sparks that like says 0

👀

[gaunt lantern]

you need enough to craft each item you want to sim

[drifting nova]

9s being so cooked is so dumb

[gaunt lantern]

so you need enough to craft 8 items to sim that

[lofty depot]

He has enough

[cobalt junco]

if i set crests to infinite it will sim them all right?

i dont want that i want to see out of the 4 which 1 is the best

[gaunt lantern]

he does not have 12 sparks and 480 crests

and yes just hitting max will let it sim

[cobalt junco]

ill try

[lofty depot]

U don't need 12 sparks to run that sim

That's not how that works

[cobalt junco]

im so confused XD

[gaunt lantern]

it literally made me do that the other day

[lofty depot]

Skill issue

Uhh one aec

[gaunt lantern]

to run a similar sim the other day

[cobalt junco]

the warning doesnt go away when there maxed

[dark trail]

Is there a preferable craft slot overall on wrists/belt/boots?

[orchid fox]

Generally speaking. If I only have 2 sparks left. Do I want to save and craft 2h when I get 4. Or craft the off hand and try to get the beloren weapon

[lofty depot]

Gloves bolts prob

It's cuz ur wrist

U have other slots selected with an additional item but not wrist

See it go away

[cobalt junco]

MY GUYYYYYY

TY

[lofty depot]

Well ur not, it's just it works

[lucid olive]

damn held down the d button to avoid the auto timeout

[cobalt junco]

ohh sorry

[lofty depot]

Is that ban evasion

Should give him extra time

[cobalt junco]

i delete sorry guys

[lucid olive]

don't worry about it

[lofty depot]

Don't be sorry, we still see. It

[cobalt junco]

its ggs o7

[lofty depot]

[supple haven]

My vault is that bad its telling me to take myth tier gloves

[lofty depot]

Ruhroh

[red nymph]

do you already have 4set?

[orchid fox]

After eclipse falls off and there is still like 6 seconds of starlord. Do I want to wait until starlord falls to re enter eclipse

[lucid olive]

you dont have to

But unless you're sitting at 2 charges of Eclipse you might as well use the 5 second Starlord window to generate some AP for next Eclipse

[orchid fox]

Thanks

[dense steeple]

Myth track beloren is the only time that would matter

[orchid fox]

Gotcha. So craft the 2h until I would get a myth 1h from bel

[lofty depot]

U'll use 2h until u have free myth crests and spark