balance

[lofty depot]

U clicked the mythic crest not the ilvl

[dense steeple]

give juff orange

its the wrong item

[lofty depot]

More like take urs away

[dull dust]

[dense steeple]

i was getting so mad

i didnt even read

[vital hound]

LMAO

[dull dust]

why can u add a embellishment to it

[gaunt lantern]

I did my discord knowing shit time in classic, I'm good, thanks

[lofty depot]

Did u not go to the crafting table and look up the name of the item

[dense steeple]

orange is shitpost role

[dense steeple]

i did

[dull dust]

real

[dense steeple]

i looked at wrong item entirely

[lofty depot]

Clearly

[dense steeple]

i have so much shit in the list bro

[lofty depot]

Any

[dull dust]

make the world tree ones cuz they sound the most druidy

no other reason

[normal geyser]

I know your name is likely a meme, but why should we not press it?

[heavy iris]

ec simming 5k over kotg 1t 5m 🙁

[coral widget]

does everyone just pick what the sim tells you?

[lofty depot]

That's not new

[coral widget]

im torn rn lol

[dense steeple]

it was from before it got buffed 8 times lmao

[royal zenith]

yeah I dont use my own brain at all

[dense steeple]

lemme fix

[dull dust]

[lofty depot]

Something like that usually

[royal zenith]

what;s the point in logic

[dense steeple]

solved

[royal zenith]

overrated

[normal geyser]

Wait was it broken before?

[lofty depot]

So e times we gotta use brain

[coral widget]

fair lol

[dense steeple]

no it just did no damage lmao

[dull dust]

1 thought per sometimes

[normal geyser]

😂 I remember when Starfall let you move and cast.. Those were the days

[lofty depot]

Old

[royal zenith]

wrong

[dense steeple]

i miss those days too

[lofty depot]

Also old

[dense steeple]

my favorite boomkin iteration is a hot take

[royal zenith]

keep them thinking you're dumb

best tactic

[normal geyser]

Oh do tell

[dull dust]

got that on lock

[dense steeple]

best moonkin rotation was starfall, moons, and moonfire. no other casts

[copper gate]

anyone have a race string input for raidbot sim

[dense steeple]

boom boom boom boom moonfire go brrr

[wheat rivet]

anyone have advice on what tier slot to not have? i think it might be gloves to not have? just hoping for a little clarification

[lofty depot]

It's on dreamgrove

[dense steeple]

thats correct

[wheat rivet]

ty ty

[heavy iris]

in keys build highest ST, can't even get a "ST based" ec lol i just am surprised

[normal geyser]

Apparently WoWAnalyzer doesn't support Training Dummies 😩 I feel like the training dummy now

[copper gate]

ty ❤️

[lofty depot]

U should understand our talents are ass and within 1% of each other

[royal zenith]

think I tried about 5 different builds on dragons

didnt matter at all

[heavy iris]

Sims not accounting for movement would make it drop for sure but 5k seems way beyond movement threshold maybe i play it tonight

[uncut roost]

Feared every single time

[lofty depot]

Playing EC in raid is definitely a choice

[dull dust]

ec also much flatter profile

[heavy iris]

i'd like to play whatever hits the most damage lol idc how boring

[celest narwhal]

what do u type in game to start logging

with the companion app

[lofty depot]

Well that implies u can do that damage

If the best players aren't, I promise u arent

[royal zenith]

do people just not look at wcl at all

[lofty depot]

No

[heavy iris]

i look at wcl

[royal zenith]

but you're stubborn?

[heavy iris]

it's week 2 people thought kotg was the play in keys week 2 tww s1 until they started doing keys that mattered

[royal zenith]

huh

who thought kotg was the play

[copper gate]

if the clanker has belt over gloves by .5% do i do it chat

[heavy iris]

everyone at first

ec wasn't good

[royal zenith]

no?

[copper gate]

we never defy the clankers do we

[royal zenith]

it was always a "play whatever you want" first week

[lofty depot]

Delulu

[royal zenith]

.

[lofty depot]

The early keys u can play literally anything and it doesn't matter

It's week 1/2

[royal zenith]

and yes the m+ build for EC does more ST damage

[lofty depot]

Keys are also not raid

[sly wadi]

too bad packs die before you can cast starfire omegalul

[normal geyser]

Use /combatlog or make sure you have the companion addon installed

[dull dust]

I played agi staff in my first 2 10s

[royal zenith]

• it would be good to get a trinket like emberwing

[pseudo merlin]

you were shit with all of them?

not surprised

[royal zenith]

yeah Im fine with being mid

[pseudo merlin]

I wish I was mid

[royal zenith]

as long as I get hof

[pseudo merlin]

dont you have hof already?

[royal zenith]

1 hof in the pocket!

[pseudo merlin]

forest dog hof

ezgg

[royal zenith]

okay what is this raid tuning man

[pseudo merlin]

dude

its fine

chilling on all bosses

lura is going to be like

[harsh herald]

Did you guys keep up with that pvp training quest?

[pseudo merlin]

490 pulls

[royal zenith]

some did yeah

but pvp

[harsh herald]

Finally get to cash in on the neck and it's pretty huge for me

[pseudo merlin]

I did 3/5 in week 2

but my prog got reset

so fk it

[harsh herald]

Just been doing training ground and pve'ing against bots

[pseudo merlin]

jokes on you

you're always against bots in pvp

and with bots

why do pugs go morium first

I dont want to have to deal with interrupt

@royal zenith

[royal zenith]

it's just

easier

[pseudo merlin]

not for me

[royal zenith]

in terms of thought process

but yes demiar or w.e. is better

that's how we progged hc at least

well "progged"

the interrupt 😭

[pseudo merlin]

i keep getting baited by bw

"interrupt in 5"

[dense steeple]

i'm ready to grey parse for ilvl

[pseudo merlin]

but thats teh start of the cast

[royal zenith]

that's week one ilvl for some soma!!

step it up

(not for me tho)

[dense steeple]

its not though

mythic wasnt even released til Week 2 and there wasnt enough crests to hit that high

[pseudo merlin]

yes there was

[dull dust]

should've run more splits

[pseudo merlin]

even people in my guild were like 273

[royal zenith]

fair enough

[dull dust]

2 weeks ago

[pseudo merlin]

and we havent even hit reset yet

[royal zenith]

I shouldve been more specific

[pseudo merlin]

Just go back to mount collecting lil bro

[dense steeple]

2 weeks ago hero cap was 100??

[harsh herald]

There were a ton of uncapped crests though

[pseudo merlin]

many uncapped crests

mythic loot

staff craft

[dense steeple]

mythic what

[dull dust]

2

weeks

[pseudo merlin]

didnt you log your alt to downrank mythic crests to heroic crests to unlock the HC crest discount for your main?

casual

[dense steeple]

now youre just makin shit up

good bait tho

[pseudo merlin]

That''s a real thing

but you need to get some mythic raid loot to make it

[dense steeple]

brother

TWO WEEKS AGO

[pseudo merlin]

who's talking about 2 weeks ago

[dense steeple]

everyone but you apparently

[pseudo merlin]

yeah im way beyond that

silly druid

[dense steeple]

my brother in christ

everyone was talking about week 1

lol

[ripe salmon]

Has anyone got some tips for balance in raids atm. My parses all seem to be around 60ish.... just feel weak compared to other guildies that are less geared than me :/. 264 ilvl for reference.

[dense steeple]

do you ahve one of these

[pseudo merlin]

week 1 is crazy

whoever said that is making shit up

[ripe salmon]

nope embering feather and locus-walkers.

[pseudo merlin]

i assumed they meant mythic week 1

[royal zenith]

stare is like a 4k dps increase just by equipping it

[pseudo merlin]

dont even need to play the game?

[royal zenith]

but you can still parse decently

if you pad your brains out..

[dense steeple]

[split trail]

I was playing CoE on M+ and someone told me to use wrath on single target to generate faster astral power for faster starsurges. is this true? even with Lunar Calling increasing starfire dmg by 120%?

[royal zenith]

you mean Elune's Chosen?

[dense steeple]

you wrath in ST outside of eclipse

[pseudo merlin]

curse of elements

[dense steeple]

in eclipse you starfire always

[split trail]

yep thought it was chosen of elune 😛

[royal zenith]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

[split trail]

ty ty

[pseudo merlin]

Any semantickers

What is actually the dif between chosen of elune and elune's chosen

[digital berry]

yall know if timewalking dungeons can drop cata charges

[royal zenith]

it's not called chosen of elune

shrimple

!

[pseudo merlin]

yeah but

what if it was

or why isn't it

[royal zenith]

It's a...

choice

[dense steeple]

one is a spec the other is half of the name of a talent

[pseudo merlin]

yes I know elune made a choice

that's not the question

[royal zenith]

they just chose to choose elune's chosen

[pseudo merlin]

oh wait ur right

[bold creek]

when do we think replacing the crucible of erratic energies is good

[royal zenith]

when a different trinket sims better

[ripe slate]

when the robot says to

[royal zenith]

and dont forget to untick the buffs if you didnt get them

[lucid olive]

incarn is

[royal zenith]

[clever sorrel]

Sorry if this is answered already but why does it say to cast wrath outside of eclipse on aoe? is that really better with EC?

[pseudo merlin]

7% vers, 11% crit 15% haste and 23% mastery

[lucid olive]

that line should say 1 target

[royal zenith]

you made me cast at least 1 or 2 wraths in AOE for no reason gamz

thanks!!

[lucid olive]

get baited

[pseudo merlin]

eyo

we're splitting chimaerous

[clever sorrel]

Thanks just making sure im not missing something haha

[royal zenith]

I donnttt knowww if that's worth

[pseudo merlin]

dude

imagine

[royal zenith]

but why not

[pseudo merlin]

2x 4 belts

0 trinkies

[royal zenith]

yeah..

[pseudo merlin]

OR

2x 4 trinkets?

[royal zenith]

that's the narrative

the carrot

[pseudo merlin]

if we hit

we're still going to be hardstuck on hc lura

[royal zenith]

nahhhhh

hc lura seems doable

the crystal carrying though

[pseudo merlin]

ye--

..

wonder how difficult hc will be

[vital hound]

looks fucking hard

liquid 7 healed

[pseudo merlin]

yeah im more scared of hc lura than mythic splits

[vital hound]

ya

[royal zenith]

that's a fact

[vital hound]

looks harder than half of mythi

[uncut whale]

Hi! Why is a talent labelled as "never take" (Stellar Amplification) is in the M+ keeper of the grove build recommendation?

[balmy fossil]

Is Nullaeus ?? just impossible as Balance? He casts the instant kill mechanic when I still have 10 seconds cooldown left on Solar Beam (with the cd reduction talent, too!)

[lucid olive]

yes

[pseudo merlin]

cant u just run healer valeera?

she spams interrupt no

[royal zenith]

nah

only dispells

[pseudo merlin]

unlaky

can you just not export BW settings or

Like what's the point if 99% of my settings are per boss settings

[harsh herald]

I was able to do it when it came out, so unless something changed or bugged

[royal zenith]

usually just means the talent is not competitive at all in terms of dps

if labelled as never take

maybe gamz knows specifics

[lethal imp]

Are the sims correct wrt the crucible of erratic energies in voidstorm?

[royal zenith]

define correct

[lethal imp]

Okay what I'm asking is where does it fall on the trinket tier list whenever doing the voidstorm raid?

[royal zenith]

they represent it's actual dps, but you do need to check it's settings at the bottom

[lethal imp]

or even more directly, should I be wearing this stupid trinket (My trinkets are all mid)

[lofty depot]

trinket tierlists are fake

[digital berry]

if it sims best sure

[lofty depot]

sim works

why is it a stupid trinket

is good trinket

[pseudo merlin]

You get an insanely good trinket for basically doing nothing

It's stupid arctic

you wouldn't get it

I rather farm this dungeon 68 times

[royal zenith]

It's like having 600 guilds that get hof for 1 mythic boss

all about worth and value..

[lofty depot]

wr1500 guilds hof title

[lethal imp]

Okay sorry to insult the crucible. That was mean of me.

[lofty depot]

if i see anyone wearing it, theyre getting flamed

[lethal imp]

I only call it stupid because it reads like a dumb trash world trinket

that would have no real utility compared to regular trinkets

[pseudo merlin]

it reads like it doesn't work outside of the zone kinda

[royal zenith]

is true

[lofty depot]

well stop reading tooltip

[harsh herald]

Yeah I was saying to my friend it should just say you get the voidstorm buff anywhere

[lofty depot]

well its not supposed to give it anyhwere

[lethal imp]

Also it's very annoying that I need to swap my trinket between raids now

[pseudo merlin]

but it is

[lethal imp]

So I'm returning to this trinket is stupid and I hate it

#1 crucible hater here

[pseudo merlin]

why do you hate something free and op

I dont get it

[lethal imp]

because now I'm going to be sad every time I forget to swap it out when we move raids

and that experience is worse than a free trinket

[pseudo merlin]

swap?

[lethal imp]

It doesn't work outside of the voidstorm raid right?

[vital hound]

or just dont play it

[lethal imp]

or rather, it's very weak

[pseudo merlin]

I do not have an answer

[harsh herald]

If you're still using the champion trinket from season 1 next season

[pseudo merlin]

I thought it worked everywhere

[harsh herald]

That's another problem buddy

[lethal imp]

Okay I could be wrong, but my understanding is the trinket is only worthwhile inside of the voidstorm raid and nowhere else

because the buff is amplified in the voidstorm zone (which the raid counts as)

[lofty depot]

why r u swappign trinkets?

yes it does

[harsh herald]

In voidstorm you get both the voidstorm buff + your trinket

[royal zenith]

he's literally explaining why he swaps

[harsh herald]

Outside of voidstorm you only get you trinket

[royal zenith]

are you guys being daft

or what's up

[pseudo merlin]

Me when I dont read

[lethal imp]

idk I could just be missing something

[pseudo merlin]

🫡 🇺🇸

[lofty depot]

well ur wrong cuz tooltips lie

[pseudo merlin]

ok arctic set the record straight

it just works everywhere right

[lethal imp]

oh okay great

That's very good news

Thank you for correcting me

[pseudo merlin]

Also the raid is not part of that surely

the console shouldnt work in raid

[red nymph]

what is this voidforge thing gonna do?

[lofty depot]

instead of titan forging

ur gonna void forge

[lofty depot]

yes.

[pseudo merlin]

isnt that bonus roll

[lofty depot]

ye lol

[pseudo merlin]

wait

can we bonus roll the new raid then

hmmmmmmm

lik immediately

[spice roost]

what did ui pick from vault arctic

[lofty depot]

and there will be another mid tier raid in .7

[pseudo merlin]

The .7 one is what i mean

Save tokens just incase

ggez

[red nymph]

have they done any mythic pulls yet or are they doing mythic splits?

[lofty depot]

prob

[spice roost]

@lofty depotdid u have a good vault

[royal zenith]

just splits

and a bit of heroic

[lofty depot]

sockey

[spice roost]

oh nos

[copper gate]

Ladies and gentlemen I have crafted gloves you can all carry on with your day

[royal zenith]

oh yeah?

[split trail]

why isn't crucible of erratic energies counted? it sims highers than my heart of the wind

[red nymph]

glove craft being twice the cost of staff craft is ugly

[red nymph]

casue you can only ever get it a champ track where as HotW you can get myth track

[split trail]

yeah I did it just seemed a bit weird and wanted to double check

[ripe salmon]

How are people doing there UI's now these days with no WA/ELVUI ect.... is thre some other method like WA were i can plug in a string/text and get a nice default layout?

[red nymph]

arcui and similar addons

[ripe salmon]

are there places to copyy and paste other peoples set ups?

[red nymph]

yes

[ripe salmon]

do you have a link handy. Trying to have a look and can't seem to.

[red nymph]

no

[shadow willow]

lorrgs.io @ripe salmon

oh nvm you want uis

[ornate girder]

go to wago.io and look up ui packs

[wooden dew]

BIS myth track ring? or hero track 4pc?

[harsh herald]

Do you already have 4pc?

[wooden dew]

i do not.

i do have a catalyst charge though

(i have 3pc rn)

[harsh herald]

Yeah 4pc is prio, but if you're able to get it this week

I'd take the ring

[harsh herald]

Cool, yeah then I'd probably send the catalyst on whatever piece to get 4p and grab your myth ring

Just so you can start earning more charges from other content

And then slap an upgrade on a heroic piece later

[wooden dew]

it would be nice to lock the slot...

just not have to worry about it anymore

[frank vine]

guys, a quick question, didn't really read chat above much so don't mind me repeating stuff; the best craft if we dont see myth tier gloves in the vault is to craft gloves with arcanoweave lining as your 2nd crafted slot, right?

[wooden dew]

actually i have 2 catalyst charges. yeah i'm just gonna send it on my champ track legs...

[harsh herald]

Yeah that's the way I think just got get your 4p

I got another charge last week before I got a heroic piece to use it on

[harsh herald]

I think gloves/belt/boots have the same stat budget so maybe whichever gives you the highest ilvl

Or replace the one that gives less dps

[indigo ether]

Do I craft boots?

or gloves still

[edgy quarry]

I was testing 2 differents builds on the first boss MM and it seem to be quite the same

What do u think about it ? (I have a preference for convok one, easier for me)

[heavy iris]

saw a few people in logs have played wild shroom on chim and imp, has anyone in here that can speak to how it felt

[coral shell]

Finally 4 set
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m717qWvjQAVkKf88FgFXUS

[harsh herald]

I feel shroom on chim is shameless padding for parses

[heavy iris]

100%

i'll be a shameless padder

[sick heart]

What would be the best crafting option once you have the staff?

[dense steeple]

highest off tier

like the guide says

[coral shell]

I went gloves

[grizzled nimbus]

hey guys is nevermelting ice crystal good for boomie? i dont see this trinket on dreamgrove

[dense steeple]

cause its bad

and should not be considered under any circumstance

[delicate perch]

I'm considering it rn actually

[urban hollow]

Sorry if dumb question - with very little raid fights being single target do yall still sim single target or is there a more relevant option that people use?

[lofty depot]

we only sim st

[indigo ether]

so boots in my case?

[dense steeple]

is boots an off tier?

[indigo ether]

I havent played in 5 years

not sure

[dense steeple]

tierset can be in 5 slots,

head
shoulder
chest
hands
legs

[indigo ether]

oh ok

so craft an item thats part of. tier set that you don't need?

i tier in head shoulder chest and legs already

[dense steeple]

the biggest gain after weapon for us is pretty safely whatever your offtier piece is, preferrably gloves as that is the worst tier item for us

that being said you should sim

[indigo ether]

sim has boots at 1% greater dps

than gloves

but i can catalyst convert my current boots into the heroic raid one

[dense steeple]

what ilvl are you current gloves/boots

[indigo ether]

both 266

Gloves are Vaelgor's boots are from M+

[fair mist]

I want one arcanoweave and one sigil hunt or long term if I have a mythic weapon do I want 2 arcanweave linings?

[dense steeple]

tough call really, i would still slam the gloves cause higher budget item but its not my sub

[indigo ether]

kk

thx

I can just catalyst my boots

[proud moon]

i wanna enter eclipse with >90 ap, but do i want to dump all my ap down to zero or just kind of bounce back-and-to between starfire and spenders to prevent overcap

[lofty depot]

u dump at the start of eclipse to gain stacks of harmony

[proud moon]

tyvm

and after that/those 3 spenders, just hover near cap?

[lofty depot]

ye

unless u get procs or need to move generally

[proud moon]

thanks so much

[lucid olive]

yo guys

you seen the changes to the dreamgrove website

[gaunt lantern]

learn thalassian? instantly x'd out

[lucid olive]

you dont like blood elves?

[gaunt lantern]

100%.

they ruined my ugly mud-hut loving faction

[dull dust]

theres a website?

[delicate perch]

theres two actually

🍝

[lucid olive]

chancel hasnt even seen the cute theme

[delicate perch]

Seems you have been hacked 🙃

has cute themed always been that well done

[lucid olive]

yeah

[gaunt lantern]

this is uh

[delicate perch]

what is what

[gaunt lantern]

someone way over committed to the bit

[jolly delta]

[delicate perch]

@jolly delta you hear that

[lucid olive]

you can just say you don't like humor

it's fine

[delicate perch]

my names juff

[proud moon]

Press Fury of Elune off cooldown
Enter Lunar Eclipse if you're above 90% Astral Power and you're either about to overcap on charges or Fury of Elune is also available

does this mean, if incarn is not available, and you just cast FoE, you should follow up with LE; or should you use LE then FoE if theyre both available

and when do you ever use the "last" or single charge of LE, just if you are >90 ap and FoE isnt available?

[delicate perch]

scroll down on dreamgrove website

[dull dust]

compendium says I can run draught pog

aye yo my eyes

[jolly delta]

can't overcommit if the standard is always high

[lofty depot]

ur playing ec in which case u should be slamming foe on cd

[gaunt lantern]

look I'm an american. Having standards is inherently over commital

[lofty depot]

if ur playing keeper there are trimes u send outside ofe incarn yes

[delicate perch]

I never would've guessed

[dull dust]

the compendium adds go crazy ngl

[proud moon]

yes im ec, i just dont understand the flow of "use foe, but also use LE if FOE is available" but foe will never be available when i reach the "pop le if ap >90 or foe ready" step

im not sure if im articulating that correctly

[jolly delta]

have u clicked

[dull dust]

does it get better

[lucid olive]

all the websites work

[delicate perch]

bro?

[jolly delta]

he doesn't know

[dull dust]

bro

[normal pilot]

finally got all 6 ads wheresm y achievement

[jolly delta]

ngl this was literally the last one I made and I was so out of ideas for the banners at this point

[delicate perch]

you get a 1 hour coaching session with kekkers

[spice roost]

hahaha

[lucid olive]

omg kekkers coaching academy

make it

its only 1 hour into april 1st!!!

[spice roost]

^

[delicate perch]

@drifting nova login you have teaching to do

[dull dust]

bro lives in the future

wtff

[delicate perch]

[jolly delta]

wym 1h....

oh into

nvm

brain fried

kekkers will have his own special next year or smth

[dull dust]

@agile oracle can wowhead get these ads

[lucid olive]

[viscid scarab]

what should I do know, recreaft 285 and get vessel trinket, or get myth weapon and upgrade it?

[agile oracle]

I'll look into it for your pookie

[dull dust]

[stoic fog]

hi there is it better to press eclipse even if you dont have enough AP for ascendant eclipses? or hold onto ecl;pse until u have enough ap to spm at al once

[lucid olive]

should always pool resources for Eclipse unless you're sitting at 2 charges of Eclipse

[obsidian inlet]

Lazers are dope as hell

[stoic fog]

even if half of the eclipse timer is just pooling?

[exotic perch]

personally id take the wep

but you do you

[jade flume]

Trinket is not even myth track

Definitely wep angel

[normal pilot]

vessel is auto decline

[exotic perch]

wait i didnt see it was hero track

yea wep for sure

[atomic jackal]

aNYONE Have a midnight falls vid

[lofty depot]

probably liquid

[pseudo merlin]

Who's ready for memory game

or did you NAers already play it

[molten yoke]

are people using the Chimaerus build on wowhead?

[lofty depot]

go to warcraft logs and check

[molten yoke]

looks like it

[stone ledge]

Looks like more and more of the fights are moving towards incarn

[dull dust]

is this u

big fan

[stone ledge]

Reroll of the century

[stoic fog]

I forgot the rules.. do we use wrath up to 4 targest or solar ecl;ipse in 4 taregets?

[lofty depot]

3

u can read the prio list for said info

[obsidian fox]

What's the best way of farming gold rn?

[craggy sonnet]

alt army concentration crafting?

[nova fulcrum]

tier chest or trinket?

[pastel marsh]

Guys, i'm in a situation. Vault dropped 2 weapon (1h and 2h) myth and the trinket hero from Chimaerus. I already crafted a staff with embelishments. I don't now what to do. Do I get the weapons and lose the crafted staff? Or do I go with the trinket anyways? (That considering i wont be getting it from the raid)

[lofty depot]

sim it?

[lofty depot]

idk why we think taking a weapon is smart

u have a weapon

[copper gate]

for a fight like mythic ezarok when there arent orbs currently out or incoming, I shouldnt be using starfall as a filler right? I should just be starsurge swapping the two scalies?

barring a starfall proc

[lofty depot]

u surge 2t

[upbeat flume]

when where pop up adds added to dreamgrove

[lofty depot]

hard times

[lucid olive]

you should click them

[versed hawk]

do you really only hold eclipse if you have the free astral power buffs or trees up

or is it just when you have enough for to spend all three stacks

[dull dust]

why doesnt the whispers make sound

I was promised asmr

[dense steeple]

arctic

can confirm, get trinket parse orange

[lofty depot]

ye

[broken gazelle]

Sorry im posting this again, but is this trinket any good? Its simming well but it's a D on WoWheads tier list. Would yall go for ring or trinket(mine arent great)

[lofty depot]

not really no

ring prob would sim it sure

[dense steeple]

ring probably big here

[dense steeple]

washed

[dull dust]

get good

[glacial steeple]

Reroll smh

[dense steeple]

vibin tho

[dull dust]

[warm wraith]

question for 2 target like dragons raid boss should i be spending on star fall on cd

[glacial steeple]

Starsurge

[warm wraith]

ok ty

[analog moat]

Do you just ss 1 ss 2 ss 1 ss 2, etc?

[vernal egret]

Hello, if I already have a 276 weapon should I still go for the staff craft or craft something like wrist with arcanoweave?

[dense steeple]

myth weapon shouldve been crafted last week

[digital berry]

i think i suck at this game

[lofty depot]

gary ethical vs gary pad

[dense steeple]

imp?

[lofty depot]

chim

[orchid fox]

random question. when you are in just a regular eclipse. are you mainly just spamming wrath / starfire and just not capping AP?

[dense steeple]

ah

[orchid fox]

like we not dumping AP hard until incarn right?

[lofty depot]

u dump asp in eclipse

[dense steeple]

i oranged boss dam too

very ethical

[lofty depot]

ur not overcapping

[orchid fox]

not over capping correct but im not hitting like 3 or 4 SS or SF in a row right?

[digital berry]

nope

only at the start of an eclipse / incarn

[orchid fox]

gotcha

[digital berry]

or really heavy movement

[lofty depot]

holy im rewarded

lock in

[orchid fox]

eclipse damage is mainly either wrath or Starfire right

[digital berry]

no its still spenders

[glacial steeple]

Smash

[digital berry]

wrath and starfire dont do that much dmg

[glacial steeple]

Wrath about 5% of my damage

Astral is Nature/Arcane so starsurge/Starfall/Fury all benefit from both halves of eclipse

[carmine vigil]

thank you dreamgrove compendium creators

[lucid olive]

click it

[delicate perch]

we knew that

[carmine vigil]

it went away already 🙁

[lucid olive]

vinter made websites for all the ads

refresh

[lofty depot]

"vinter"

[lucid olive]

claudinter

[digital berry]

woah there buddy i come here for love and kindness

[lofty depot]

although, can we make that astral power energy drink

that sounds like my bis

[delicate perch]

wrong discord for that bud

[dense steeple]

holy moly we got a 100% ilvl parse

im a god

[dull dust]

[dense steeple]

time to get scouted to replace goop

[lucid olive]

thats what im sayin

azeroth weather service goes hard too

[dull dust]

what would astral_power even taste like

[glacial steeple]

Matcha?

[delicate perch]

battery acid

[dense steeple]

fuck no

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

get a trinket and pop off bro

[warm wraith]

for paladins is it better to cast starfall instead of starsurge?

[dull dust]

all those blues

[delicate perch]

is the pop off in the room with us

[delicate perch]

and heroic

[viral cliff]

and Not Locked In

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

from when i didnt have 4pc or a trinket

you guys jynxed it

i didnt orange sadhatter

[dull dust]

its ok

u pink next boas

boas

[rocky swan]

are we useful yet

[dense steeple]

DRAGON BOAS

[rocky swan]

i started midnight originally with my moonkin and got so sad lol

[lucid olive]

why

spec is fun

[copper gate]

Guys servers are up log in

[glacial steeple]

Spec got buffed, now we sexy af

[rocky swan]

oh good

will i still receieve headpats even if i'm not a haranir

[delicate perch]

[exotic perch]

get rekt

[delicate perch]

kinda clean there

[lofty depot]

op spec

[exotic perch]

cat kinda nice

its amirdrassil but less stressful

[glacial steeple]

naw m8, need to be a wolverine

[dense steeple]

gonna win here for sure

[glacial steeple]

There's enough cats for a 99?

[dense steeple]

my dragons spec got busted and i didnt know so i was gimped for dragons and barely even purpled

[exotic perch]

i think that zero is 1 of 2 lol

[keen warren]

Got stare, do i macro it onto another CD or give it its own keybind?

[lofty depot]

uhh most people do

[keen warren]

i assume CA, ill try that unless you tell me bad

[lofty depot]

well most people arent degenerate so they macro it to ca

[dense steeple]

oh man ive been trolling

i didnt put on my alleria trinket

[ornate girder]

i macro'd it to trees

[maiden crest]

is that crafted haste mastery neck with a dmg proc worth it?

[dense steeple]

locken

[lofty depot]

did u sim it

[dense steeple]

i fuckin died on alleria

someone with the obbies died and blew me up

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

i just told it to lock in

[pseudo merlin]

ahhh ok

[exotic perch]

its hard to lock in ok

[pseudo merlin]

[dense steeple]

@exotic perch I DID NOT WIN HERE

i didnt have vaelgor for lust 🙁

[coarse lodge]

I plugged my logs into wow analyzer, for raids what % eclipse uptime should I be aiming for? I got 56% but dont know what numbers should look like

[viscid scarab]

Hi guys, should I use this after incarnation or before pop cds?

[glacial steeple]

Before pop cds so you get the most uptime with CDs

[viscid scarab]

thanks

[dense steeple]

you should give it back to your raid leader to give to someone else

[fossil otter]

Does anyone know if u get locked out of hc boss if you dc before its pulled?

[lofty depot]

if u dont tag it

no

[dense steeple]

arctic

purple parse imp

trinket dif

[delicate perch]

[digital berry]

i have a feeling theres smth about the rotation that i apparently do not understand cause im doing dogwater dps

lmao

[stone ledge]

arctic fell off sadge

[delicate perch]

that's a HoF (world like 850) player you're talking about there bud

[digital berry]

this is so embarassing im washed af

[lofty depot]

?

i cant pad on vorasius cuz other people are

[stone ledge]

i am also (world like 850)

i fell off (terrorized on belo)

[lofty depot]

why is blud flexing r400 logs

[lunar rune]

just curious, why does crit have slightly more value than usual for boomie? i noticed in a prio list that it's on par with haste which is crazy to read.

obviously i know sim, but was wondering

[dense steeple]

vibin

[stone ledge]

ah so not 850th

[lofty depot]

ur apex talent

why r we looking at a fake boss kill

[eager raft]

Shut up man

[lofty depot]

kill vaelgor or u cant talk

[eager raft]

Ok talk to u Thursday hopefully

[lunar rune]

i just assumed that this is repositioned astral smolder. does it feed into itself like devouring plague or ignite or whatever ?

[lofty depot]

ignite ye

[stone ledge]

i am not the determining factor in this one,

[vital swift]

should i take feather or not?

it simed -dps for me

[dusk vale]

anyone wants a trinket ?

[lofty depot]

sim it?

[vital swift]

it sims weirdly, i think if i swap stats to crit being my 2nd best in can be good somehow..
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uyqFKb8DrvSYgxzSF6eM6E

[lofty depot]

doesnt seem weird to me

latest

[dense steeple]

arctic who the fuck did this

[lofty depot]

vAInter

[dense steeple]

crazy work

whole ass functional site with so many buttons to click

[vital hound]

He's so fkn good

@jolly delta my goat

[tulip snow]

maybe remove the "wait 5 seconds" button lmfao

actual cancer

[delicate perch]

got somewhere to be bud?

can't wait 5seconds

[normal pilot]

it's just prepping you for 5s convoke play

[tulip snow]

gotta make sure you get those click throughs on all the domains you bought lmfao

pretty elaborate april fools ngl

[tough olive]

.. do i take a dagger even though i've crafted staff?

[lofty depot]

why would u do that

[vital hound]

same icon proc is pre baller

[dense steeple]

Lots of ads work that way

[tough olive]

if its end game bis I thought that could possibly be an action but I see that you questioning it means, that isn't an option

[dense steeple]

And the redirect goes so hard

[dense steeple]

Bingo

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-%26-jerry-pizarron-mouse-raton-profesor-gif-2749890400894145536

[ivory barn]

is this a troll or? raidsim telling me to enchant my ring with this? and not 29 mastery

[tough olive]

So realistically it's ring or socket, depending on what sim says

[vital hound]

ask robot

[drifting nova]

didnt get my 10, season is over

[ivory barn]

in robot we trust i guess

[drifting nova]

do NOT trust big sim

[lofty depot]

end game bis is a problem for 2 months from now

[tough olive]

thats fair, first time playing boomie and wasn't sure of the stance between staff and off/mainhand

[still iris]

meh, guess I take the boots...

[drifting nova]

so is 4p virtually guaranteed this week or

counting to 4 is hard

[tough olive]

it is if you have received one tier piece elsewhere

[drifting nova]

sweet, skipping 2p entirely got gloves last week

[halcyon plaza]

hey is there anything said about Loa Worshiper's Band as 2nd crafted item? it sims highest for me but idk if it is simbait

[vital hound]

@lucid olive any idea why boss frames aint showing dots

[normal pilot]

nobody knows anything about the loa band it could be worse it coudl be better someone'll have to test it out

[viral cliff]

XD have some more hurry up and wait

[tender elbow]

lets gooo bois!

[knotty basin]

do you guys think 279 vaelgors or 279 feather is better for keys

276*** also have 276 gaze from chima

[cobalt flare]

[sonic surge]

Does dreamgrove have ads now or do i have adware

[knotty basin]

i mean how exactly do you sim for keys. like 6 target 1 min or something

[viral cliff]

you have adware blame gastank

[normal pilot]

there's no simming for keys atm

[sonic surge]

oh fucking gastank put in april fools shit

[halcyon plaza]

gz bro

[tender elbow]

tyty

[halcyon plaza]

fuck i feel like crafting it

[knotty basin]

murlok shows vaelgors and gaze so gg

[normal pilot]

go for it don't fall into doubt

[halcyon plaza]

the stats alone are so nice, crit is siming so well for me in raid

[wide dawn]

What is recommended as 2nd craft 🤔 i have weapon and my wrist is socketed

[halcyon plaza]

thats what im on right now, loa ring is simming much better for me than anything else but it could be a bit of a bait, but i think i go for it anyway

the world tree rootwraps are also kind of nice but you would need to collect the orb

[drifting nova]

is the rate on excess catalyst charges good or bad

[jaunty blaze]

Can be both

[wide dawn]

Didn’t sim anything yet but i think about gloves or ring

[drifting nova]

feels wrong to catalyse champ

[modest flame]

does anyone know of alts can get catalyst charges from activities aswell wenn main has 4 set done?

[halcyon plaza]

i got like 2 charges in 30+ keys and 20+ raid kills 💀

[jaunty blaze]

I only got 2 last week but others are capped

Dunno

[wide dawn]

They cant

[drifting nova]

like I could run 6s to try get pieces but already 0/1 0for that

screw it, champ it is

[tribal gale]

5 trinkets in vault, all trashs, and an off hand

[halcyon plaza]

[tribal gale]

[drifting nova]

I wish I could be cloakless

[bitter pebble]

yo gang should i spend myth crests on my 2nd craft bracers with arcanoweave or hero crests ?

[modest flame]

second question does my alt catch up on catalyst charges, my main already had a 3rd one today

[drifting nova]

wait I thought the 4pc fos was acc wide

wtf

[halcyon plaza]

nah they changed that, was never intended :/

[drifting nova]

cringe

[tough olive]

if your alt has 4 pc it will get charges when they drop, its complete RNG

[iron chasm]

Hey dude you can just hide it at the transmog vendor. Hope this helps

[vital shard]

yeah i guess it will be wrist with arcanoweave lining as nearly for every class. Damn I wish I could go for the loa warshipers band 🙁

[surreal sorrel]

Probably bait, sims 2k for me but with 266 ring haste mastery. But compared to 276 academy ring 1k and slightly lower than cloak/bracer craft for me, i mean 90 dps lol. So be careful with ilvl diff and secondary ststs aswell

[halcyon plaza]

ye true! i did sim it all again and turn out wrists with crit mastery and arcanoweave were the best option

[surreal sorrel]

[halcyon plaza]

275 equipped, hyped to pump some logs today in raid 😼

[sage axle]

Im using ST build for all raid fights. Is there specific builds i should use for other fights

like paladins or dragons?

[halcyon plaza]

ye on paladins you would run elunes chosen and on dragons few different points

[lofty depot]

u can look at warcraft logs and make better decisions

[drifting nova]

is every dh utilising half a braincell? I've yet to see a smart one

[lofty depot]

the same half braincell but yes

[halcyon plaza]

thats an example of how you check the talents of top 100 logs for paladins heroic, you can do that with every fight

[shy knot]

They are blind so be tolerant

[sage axle]

thanks

[drifting nova]

3.4 havoc giga wiping timewalking for his lack of thought

booster mustve made a killing

[wise jewel]

did anyone test loa's worshiper's band

[halcyon plaza]

sims worse didnt test, prolly bit of a bait, the best gem proc doesnt come from mastery gems either

maybe it could be better with different gems

[vital shard]

Is there a list with procs r u going to get from which gem?

[halcyon plaza]

theres a wowhead comment on the ring

vers - aoe proc
crit - stacking crit chance
mastery - phys dmg proc?
haste - haste proc

[vital shard]

capybara is always available and is going to give main stat. i think that and the peridot gem proc are the best.

[halcyon plaza]

for m+ the haste proc sounds good but the ring stats arent that optimal for it i think

[covert coyote]

how did this guy cast so many spells within 1 second of pull of paladin vanguard in voidspire?

[fossil otter]

build different

he is him

[livid jay]

lmao

that log must be fucked

can u link it

yea this is not normal

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LA9NqvKPZhVxDBY7?fight=63&type=damage-done

[drifting nova]

just that good

you wouldnt get it

[loud kettle]

Logger had lag

And it compressed the timestamps

See it rather frequently, report it to wcl and they'll remove it from rankings

[livid jay]

did press the flag ye

[pale crescent]

Is it worthy to take 289 offhand or 285 staff is good enough? Cause other piece from the vault suck

[drifting nova]

lot of doodoo vaults

too many cloaks

and non tier pieces

[jaunty blaze]

May i interest you in a socket

[drifting nova]

given how many other slots there are

slotting week 2 is grief

even if its giga dog

[pale crescent]

Or Heroic gaze of the alnseer with self healing is decent upgrade to normal locus walker ribbon?

cause it's scam trincket, scam cape and a nice offhand but I've got 285 crafter staff :/

[livid jay]

scam trinket?

u mean cause its hc?

is the offhand your only myth piece?

[drifting nova]

trink and craft wep

ez

[pale crescent]

well I got normal combo of Ribbon + Vaelgor stare

and myth+ trincket is an emberwing

which is not good

but 289 offhand mastery + haste looks tasty, tho I'm not sure about mainhand dagger, would it be any better than 285 staff which I have already

and spending vault for the heroic alnseer trincket is a bit painful

when there's 3 289 items available (tho the cape is not good statswise)

[pale crescent]

only decent myth piece from vault, some shit cape and featherwing trinket is sad

[royal zenith]

does painful matter

if you got a full tier to loot all items

gains that will help you prog are the most important right now

[jaunty blaze]

May i interest you in a socket

[drifting nova]

I'll take gold tho

[royal zenith]

it's just loot, it's a tool

means to an end yadda yadda

[drifting nova]

depresso deux

[royal zenith]

I don't think that's being depressed, it's just practical

people overthink vault decisions by a lot

[drifting nova]

exactly

there is no choice

and the choices are worse with the vault

[jaunty blaze]

The illusion of choice

[drifting nova]

chest was king

[royal zenith]

if vault didn't exist, you wouldn't have an extra item

[drifting nova]

then the game would have to provide entertainment

and the not gamba simulator

stop being silly

[pale crescent]

yup I have 4/5 tier items

soooo

289 offhand as bis investment or just smth for the progress and vamos

[drifting nova]

doing more dam on my fresh 90 pal

than my druid

[royal zenith]

say that to literally any game in the world

[drifting nova]

wtf is this

I dont like it

[pale crescent]

yup feels like trying furry warri instead is smart 😄

[royal zenith]

kekkers furry confirmed?

[pale crescent]

100%

[royal zenith]

i knew it

[drifting nova]

might aswell be after trying arms yday

balls spec

no dam

no util

no defensives

just like chicken

[jaunty blaze]

Stop the cap

[drifting nova]

[jolly delta]

[pale crescent]

but can anyone decide for me 😄 289 emberwing feather or 289 this: https://www.wowhead.com/item=258472/rukhrans-solar-reliquary?bonus=12785:13439:6652:12699&class=11&ilvl=246&spec=105#see-also

or just nice trinket with small improvment

[livid jay]

how much is small

did u sim

[pale crescent]

well even mythic gaze gives +0,7%

heroic would give even less

ok, will ask raidbot either way

[inner plover]

I have hard time to decide what to pick from Vault. Sims says boots are biggest upgrade since its champ to Myth track upgrade. But trinket is maybe better overall... idk. I crafted weapon so i think Myth weapon is not the way.

[vital shard]

u can't compare rets 😉

[pale crescent]

wow you find gaze tempting? is it that good?

[loud kettle]

🏳️‍🌈

[drifting nova]

I still miss wings but passive wings every 30s is nuts

[vital shard]

u can skill wings if u like to

[drifting nova]

no

imagine if ca was passive

there goes that cooldown slop

-1 right there

[vital shard]

yeah that would be nice

[inner plover]

Its "A+" trinket, Like i only want ON USE, raid trinket but Gaze might be better pair for M+ then Leash ?

[vital shard]

but we've got a different class design and also more buttons to press 😄

[loud kettle]

Maybe make it like a 12s duration and you enter it by pressing 2 generators while outside of ca?

[pale crescent]

yes it is, maybe I'll complete heroic raid this week and decide, nothing is an upgrade tbh

[pale crescent]

once upon a time in a galaxy far away

tho belt is actually +19 ilvl upgrade, haha

[slender island]

crit mastery boots from skyreach right? i'd take that for sure, one slot you won't have to think about anymore until next season; depends on your goals ofc and especially how much mythic raiding you'll do

[jolly delta]

bro wym "vinter"

mf talks like all I did was press a button

[drifting nova]

today couldnt get any worse, the banks are in german

[rain jetty]

Need a crafter for wrists on EU

Anyone can ?

285

[jolly delta]

It's realm specific

[rain jetty]

No way it is

?

[jolly delta]

I'm sure you'll find someone in trade chat

[wise hare]

just open trade chat

[rain jetty]

I guess my realm is ded

Cus nobody in 15 min

[lusty echo]

Is the PvP quest to get HM neck up yet ?

[torpid bison]

yo guys what do you think, is myth belt, myth 2 hand or hc gaze the play here?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kusue1uJpKZo4fv3pa8EcQ

[delicate perch]

speak to people? in my delve simulator game? I doubt it

[south snow]

hey, i get a myth staff in my chest is this worth to craft 2x arcanoweave items ?

[stuck sable]

Gaze of Alnseer hc track trinket, or catalyst a mythic track chest? raidbot seems to tell me the trinket hasn't it been nerfed tho?

[honest musk]

A stupid question, but I can't find from tooltips so I gotta ask. Does yellow eclipse only buff starsurge or does it buff both starsurge and starfall? Same for blue eclipse. Does it buff only starfall or both? I kinda remember astral dmg benefits from both but still confused

[sharp cairn]

So i have the crafted staff.. but i got a myth staff in vault. Is it worth taking the myth staff?

Then spend the myth crests on other stuff?

[ruby badger]

Why is your crafted staff 272

[pallid bay]

dont you worry about that lil gup

[sharp cairn]

Because its from week 1

Ive been / am out on a work trip so not veen able to do more then 1 +10.

[round field]

upgrade it slacker

[ruby badger]

Should've just never crafted anything with hero crests

BUT that actually does mean you can take the staff cause you've not sent any myth crests on a craft yet

[sharp cairn]

Even tough i lose the sigil?

[ruby badger]

I mean you can sim it but weapons have a lot of main stat / secondary stat

and even the BiS embellishments don't contribute too much

[sharp cairn]

Guess ill just sim it when im back home next monday.

[honest musk]

Can anyone answer my question pls 😦

[south snow]

hey mates i have a question,
i get this chest
i think i'm going for staff for sure, i dont craft anything last week
i want to know if its worth to craft 2x arcanoweave item ?

[delicate perch]

@dense steeple

[stuck sable]

any advice :)?

[twin lotus]

Both eclipses buff your spenders, solar buffs solar wrath , lunar buffs lunar strike

Astral = Nature + Arcane

So for example lunar doesnt buff ur keeper dreamburts or the mushrooms

[honest musk]

oh I see, thanks

so it doesn't matter what eclipse I am when I am spending

[ruby badger]

Yeah eclipses are just about what builder you use

[honest musk]

And I wanna enter eclipses with high ap so I can use my spenders more inside eclipse frame

I used to think I enter eclipses with low ap so I get buffed generators

[twin lotus]

yes, you want to ender eclipses with pooled AP cause you get a bunch of buffs when u enter eclipse and want to spend it ASAP

if u check talents for example u get 20%crit, you get haste etc.

[honest musk]

how about starlord, do I want to generate with 12% haste I get from starlord and enter eclipse when starlord expires?

[twin lotus]

it's pretty organic right now, you stack it fast if you have pooled correctly

[ruby badger]

Getting your starlord stacked with spenders when you enter an eclipse is also another benefit

[honest musk]

but when we enter eclipse, it removes existing starlord stacks, no?

[twin lotus]

yes but if u have pooled you build it back to 3 almost immediately 😄

then when eclipse runs out it gives u some haste to build back up for the next one

you can use free procs to get some stacks if it drops out and u dont have eclipse yet

[honest musk]

so if I am close to ap cap, meaning already pooled enough to spend, I can ignore that eclipse will delete starlord stacks, it's still safe to enter eclipse

got it, thank you very much!

[ruby badger]

Basically ignore starlord

If you play the boomie rotation right it just sort of is always there

[celest rampart]

Never Melting Ice Crystal any good, cant see it on trinket list

[azure flume]

is the loa ring good on balance?

[delicate perch]

low rolled asking soma anything

[tribal gale]

is the curio guaranteed on the new raid

[frozen osprey]

Why can't we have a spreading MF like SF and have to spam it so boring

Do you guys put MF on every mob or just the bigger ones?

[livid jay]

in dungeons?

[frozen osprey]

yeah

[celest rampart]

yes

[livid jay]

i mean it goes on two targets right, i just start spamming it carefully while the tank is pulling shit and once everything is gathered i go sunfire into cd's

everything that doesnt have moonfire until then can go suck a fat one

[frozen osprey]

all righty

[tribal gale]

[frozen osprey]

do you know anyone who can helps with boomie? like coaching or smth i won't spam here

[livid jay]

not sure, if u only want someone to take a look at 1-2 logs u can just post them here tho

[frozen osprey]

If u can help me i would appriciate a lot

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/106981925?zone=47&spec=Balance&class=Druid

i'm struggling w damage

[frozen osprey]

not good w logs tho

[livid jay]

oh yea, m+ logs are a bit hard to read. Log a run yourself where you think you did good damage or tried your best and come back with that log then