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@lofty depot
theres no shot he will expose himeself


almost got blue logs
Who's that tho
me!
hell yeah
I blue logged. Me shit
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Me cant pad enough
:<
I get vaelgors in vault surely
Ripplppp
you have to kill ezzorak too

common mistake
Is he gonna show logs or
nope
how are u so washed
are you guys dotting adds on mythic vorasius
Mostly yes
personally I wouldn't ask others for log check if I was blue parsing
if the vibes shift i will vomit
Well IDC about the parse silly. It's week 1 and everyone is padding on shitter adds
There's far more to look at than the number
no
noooo
then they would not die fast
Devdh be slamming too
And now everyone 3 tanks so shits grouped up
odd choice
yeh is true
Giga cringe
If there's no damage check why do u need to kill orbs fast

because orbs do damage to your players
do you starfall on 2 targets?
damage check means enrage
Oh, so there is something that kills u
I dunno, you just kill the orbs
3+
do you know what a damage check means
3
doesn't matter if it's 1.5seconds or 1.3
i even specified the dragons
Orbs do be killing u
I got feared for like 15 seconds on kill pull
because you kill them.
if you don't kill or stack the orbs you would absolutely die to them, the damage they do stacks
Healers will pay for this transgression
cause u dont play wow
lol
gottem
why bloodmallet have not suport for balance?
that site is crap and useless
because nobody has comitted a profile to the simc github
Why do u support that which u hate
my point still stands
Run a sim, stop looking at bloodmallet
https://liquidarmory.com/trinket-tracker
but sim your char as @lofty depot said
Don't use that either
some slop talents in there
but sure
ai slop website
just using generalized 276 item level stat distribution instead of actual items
which is fine i guess
other specs have items there so i suppose this just pulls SimC defaults as well, and since none of us have comitted one then the website just generalizes it
uuuh or maybe not
cause this is not very accurate i think
coach whistle is not that good and neither is emberwing
When was that sim ran
mar 18
like 2 weeks ago
and before gaze changes
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dont laughing emoji me
at least bloodmallet just doesn't run the sim without a default profile
real dev who made it
you should be embarassed
is it tho
vibecoder

What is this heatmap buddy
was gonna type something mean
Send it, im a big boy
beloran lookin like a 1min convoke fight
Hey for someone never played boomie, but needs to learn it now, would you recommend dreamgrove.gg as the best starting point, or other written guides like wowhead/icyveins. And how good is the video guide from tettles?
THanks alot feedback is much appreciated ๐
Dreamgrove is the most up to date resource hub you can find
ackshually it's a compendium
and how important is Soltice as a buff? Is it worth to delay eclipse or a proc to maximize Solstice uptime? Ofc i need to get into rotation and basics first
LF some Boomies who have killed Mythic Vorasius that would be willing to share logs with me. I currently sit as top boomie with boss damage, but my add phase aoe is lackluster and with that brings my parse to shit. Looking for a bit of insight on how some are parsing 100k+ basically with add phase aoe being the contributor.
anyone been toying with the plater script that changes nameplate depending on how many dots you have? works for spriest but might get messy as balance idk?
just dont take any debuff applying talents
Just change the spell IDs and see surely
Stand in the middle and dot early
Probably dot them and press starfall
there's no spell id it just counts the # of debuffs
Save your incarn charges for the add phases as well
Oh
That's a get fucked then maybe
I think that'd probably be the most effective add killing set up
We have too many
Once u get fixated, u aren't fixated again
So u can stand in center if u get first and just slam
you mean padding setup
Depends on your raid
Sometimes letting the boomie handle the adds while other people focus boss damage is a pretty effective strat
It's a pretty relevant DPS check for non-great guilds
I assume we craft hands this week?
my rings arent great but my best craft sim are rings since i have way too much crit rn
depends what you get in vault but yeah
do yall clear raid first before taking from vault?
dont really wanna delay eclipse for solstice
maybe if the solstice duration is like egregious
depends on the item in vault
open vault and then see like "I have two options, and I can get at least one of them from reclear, so I should wait with picking vault and see if I get it or not"
and then make decision after
what if you know you have terrible luck when it comes to rolling for items.
Even when I roll high, some person comes in and rolls a 99
if you're still rolling for items it doesnt matter
yeah im pug life
Also, I know this isn't a Gamz ui support channel. But how do I untether the bigwigs' bars/countdowns from their position? They're locked into place for me. Not letting me move them to a different position.
anchor settings
it's in "bars" tab and then the last undertab I think? don't remember what its called
give me 2 min I can log in and show you
If you're not working with any myth raid slots then probably just take a myth piece with mainstat from the M+ slots this week or a really good trinket/jewelry piece myth
They're pre-locked into something like writtentext (Elvuisomething)
then do the "emphasized bars" for other one
So just adjust x/y positioning?
yeah basically
should probably change what its anchored to depending where you want to move it
like if you want it above player frame you'd do ElvUF_Player and set source point to bottom and destination point to top
Last question. Do you use the Raid Timing Addon reminder? I dont know exactly what its called but, you open it up and it shows a bunch of timelines and you can customize it.
timelinereminders yes
Do you by chance have preset or is it based on what your guild/raid needs?
its a paywalled addon i have through a guildwide subscription so it's not something to give out
don't have any presets no
ah ok
maybe for later bosses i'll make some reminders if it needs it
quazi noises
dang since when did we start paywalling addons
Last i played until Midnight was S1 SL
sadge
baloeran is a 1min convoke fight right?
ya im not playing ec fk that
doin less dam
wdym 5s
astral insight makes convoke a 5 sec channel
oh
and get stuck in wrong color?
and die
that sounds terrible
nvm im tired not thinking
would be wierd to play ec tho on st
just weird if you think its dmg loss
ec is the future
I am wondering if blizzard is ever going to crack down on paywalled addons because I'm pretty sure its explicitly agianst the ToS
where in the TOS does it say that
certainly not for a while since those addons are making up for blizz's own failings in the UI
or is it that one blue post from years ago being quoted again
do not all delves have a quest or am I high
7/15/2009 Music Distribution through UI Add-Ons We have recently seen a number of User Interface Add-Ons that are making modifications to the World of Warcraft in-game music files and wanted to take a moment to go over some important points with the community in connection with this. While we are currently allowing Add-Ons that remove or replac...
there
"1) Add-ons must be free of charge."
yeah, same time they crack down on rmt
yeah so its the random blue post again
tbf, thats actually them referencing the policy itself
which I am not finding an easily accessible link to
there's general terms in the EULA about derivative works
they can absolutely c&d all these paywalled addons/ui/etc.
yeah 100%
but at the end of the day they just do whatever they want with it
TR is just such a goated addon, I don't like paywalling but I also don't like a shitload of dev work being done for free
they could remove all the addons and ban the authors if they wanted to
but the whole "its against their TOS!!" is repeated so many times as a reason
well it is technically against the eula
isnt the wording that blizzard can enforce it purely on their own discretion
or whatever legal jargon they use in there
basically legalese for "if we wanna ban you we can" pure vibe
there's the blanket discretion part, but there's also a non-commerical use of platform
so it's not just simply we can ban you for anything
I love getting garbage
big stocks
Server ups
myth track feather hype?
champ gaze or myth feather
what if they nerf gaze
then my devourer will cry
oh you're playing ddh
ye
n/m then you automatically win can't lose
yeah he's one of those
???
don't mind deux he's just jealous
not wrong
WTF IS THIS SHIT
devourer meta is the closest thing to my ex
Pulsar
my beloved
I leveled my ddh this weekend I'm gonna have fun now
someone help me with my vault please, i only do m+ no serious raiding
Sim it
Then show sim
Vers yucky
the feather sims the highest
but a heroic final stare sims higher than myth track in the long run
yeah u are downbad
so yeah idk feather would be good temporarily
Idk stats on this items in ur vault either but I'd probably not take feather..... Idk depends what everything else would
haste vers myth belt
Could take it and get free upgrades on other items
Think I take gloves here the feather gets replaced by a heroic vael
yeah id take the m+ hands there too
Ya the longterm is what I look for from vaults
I see a pattern here >_< 9/10 vaults get Feather ... kinda sus
yeah I feel robbed
Good morning friends, wondering if anyone has run into this...
Ok, I simmed my GV and there is absolutely no way it's right. anyone else have something similar? it said that a belt was the best upgrade, vs a higher level piece of tier gear, vs a vet-->heroic pair of pants. I just can't believe that. I could get the tier then catalyze another piece (we have 2 charges) and have a 4pc. how is a belt better?
show sim
2nd craft is hands, belt or boots?
in that sim pants are only 9 ilevel upgrade, betl is 17
Am I really replacing hero libram with champ gaze over replacing the crucible?
Also how tf is feather so bad ๐ญ
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rdNZUNYXZmdt5qnEreaFL5
should I take a hero 3/6 (266) vaelgor final stare, or a hero 1/6 (259) set piece and catalyze another for 4 set ๐
but isn't a 4pc better?
hmmmm so which staff to pick
sure but you didn't give it options to make a 4pc
Do we throw any embellishment onto the crafted gloves
you only have 2pc equipped
Ok, I guess I'm not sure how to give it that option
Should I catalyst my myth gloves for tier or hero chest
set the # of catalyst charges then press the + button on the items you might want to catalyze to convert
Am I crazy or is balance kinda meh in m+ rn. Like not bad by any means..but yea
is guarenteed 4pc worth it over filling out a mythic tier slot but needing a drop or 1600pvp to get 4pc
anyone got this? its not very good according to wowhead but im not sure if its up to date.
Should I catalyst my myth gloves for tier or hero chest
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gloves tier bad :/
True
done
Tettles bro hope u vibin homie
wraps
!timeoutroulette
ur too addicted
What are we crafting boys and girls
gg artic
he'll be back in 5 minutes
thats 5 minutes of cold sweats
Ok, I think I have all boxes checked now. using crests, cat, etc. did I miss anything?
im gonna craft gloves unless i get em in vault
i have to sim but i expect bracers with arcano to be the move
why do you expect that
i have crit mastery gloves and will be able to max them with hero crests today
could be wrong ill sim and see
What stat are we mostly picking for crafted gear? Haste/mast or crit/mast?
either or works
285 crafted hands > max hero hands
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bbrD4J6rEtTaXgwB9rcqkZ i fucked up and used one of my cata charges on gloves so thats not a craft i can do rn, the ring i have is still 230 so a ring craft sims the highest bu ik it aint the corect choice
i asume shoes or belt?
This might be a silly question but should I catalyze Heroic legs right now to complete 4 set or wait till raid ??
true and i guess the bracers off voracious arent too bad
gloves off vaelgor arent bad either
but yeah
crafting prio stuff is a bit different than recent seasons
Hi there was hoping to get my 2 myth kills looked at, thought i was doing good rotation/cd wise on said bosses but looking at parse it seems theres alot to be improved on could someone look and help please and thankyou
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Vm13cdbP7J6WpnXk?fight=28&type=damage-done
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2b4hW9mngjQNLYKv?fight=14&type=damage-done
wait am i supposed to have 2 sparks today?
i did the quest for the spark already
but i only got 1
you should have 1 for last week
do a weekly thing for catch up if you didnt do last weej
i did all weeklies last week, had 4 sparks and crafted the weapon
me too
would the timewalking weekly work to give me the last spark?
mind you i started playing last week on monday
i dont think timewalkng weejly would
what other weekly would
try the eversong one right iutside silvermoon
you just do content for catch-up
have you not played this game for 4 years or what
smh
any of the 4 zones ones should give the catchup one
skipped a week unforch
ur behind
did you do the midnight world tour quest
ohh i havent finished it
yeha thats ur last spark
missing one runestone defence
thats the soltharil soiree event thing
yeah every time ive been to this place nothing has been going on
you're not technically behind on the weekly sparks, you just don't have the 1 spark that doesnt count towards the cap
so i just gave up on it
there is literally nothing to do at the saltherils haven location where the quest marker is taking me to
to catalyze myth tier helmet or take mythic soulcatcher's charm from vault 
google soltharil soiree or whatever and just follow whatever wowhead shit pops up
i need help with picking vault upgrade. I have mythic heart of wind and champion final stare and this is the sim for both, not sure which to pick tho. Idk if ill ever see mythic heart of wind again yuh know?
you talk to a guy on a stair to choose what tribe of blood elf you wanna bump uglies with
then you talk to the representative of that tribe and do some reputation quests for them, which includes the runestone defence
the runestone defence is also just done in LFG
im thinking heart
just get quest first, find group and blast some
?
where's the logic exactly if stare literally sims more
and by 1k more
logic being thats mythic track heart and champ track stare, like i could get stare later right? but mythic heart i might not see again
but
you make good point
1k more o:
oh youre right
not fully uphgraded hearrt or stare
see what happens at the top-end, what the dps increase is
Gamz also made a trinket list on the dreamgrove site
so if you need a bit of guidence use it
that's what it's for
i did refer to it but wanted to ask here since the choice was between champ track and myth track
looking back, maybe that was silly logic
oh i completed that quest and unlocked the factions bullshit but there still isnt a marker on the map for a runestone defence with a timer for when the next one will be
dps all that matters
but im happy I asked because now i know to fully upgrade sim items
the renown trinket is also very strong for a simple 'champion' track
(also the reason we should always sim)
check if you have the quest for runestone defence or something, then just join a group thats doing it
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best is to run a shitton of scenario's
fully-upgraded, what's possible rn, what's potential (looking into the future), what you can or cannot farm, what you can or cannot get from raid
etc.
but people are too lazy for that

bro this is so fucking confusing lmao

Hello guys, I am looking for an "all dots applied" addon or what ever for balance druid
what does that mean
That reminds me actually. I havenโt been too clued in on the addon freedom they keep giving us.
Whatโs the best way to track dots on nameplates? I used to use nameplate border colours via Plater but not sure if anything like that would be available at the moment ?
Boomie actually pretty fun this season
only hack ppl have been able to come up with so far is changing color based on # of debuffs
but that doesn't help balance that has debuffs that aren't the main dots
I like the new eclipse system
just gotta learn to read icons and l2p like ion wants you to
Real
damn, actually interesting, is there a catch-up mechanic if u didnt do previous weeks? xd
Like god intended
Unfortunately, i do not know
i guess you might be able to only count debuffs that have duration > X, not sure if that value is secret
maybe someone can throw claude at it
What hero talent spec do you think is more fun?
EC is boring
That was already known silly
Raidbots thought it had 2 sockets tho
cupcake phase
Should we be 2x Sunfiring in the opener or do we reapply mid incarn?
Wuhh

There are cupcakes?
I wish
think Ill prefer cupcakes..
Depends on ur opener
Thinking kotg with convoke
Convoke doesn't matter
im blasting
Ive been playing EC to relearn the spec and it is pretty chill
What do you like more about kotg?
just being paid by the keeper lobby smh
arctic likes to get down and move with the keeper of the groove
I admit I like the trees a lot
Ec does allow me to better focus my one brain cell
not having to press starfire
worst spell in the universe
I like lasers but also the dots generating more astral is kinda nice
I know treant gives a nice burst
Tbh I hated ec last expansion
I dot in keeper and have asp pretty full all the same
Trees give more burst and dot things for u
Dunno why I've warmed up to it this season but i haven't gotten around to playing kotg yet. Just booted up my boomie as an alt this weekend
Yeah this sounds really nice tbh
trees are lame laser are cool what more do you need
You also get a dryad buddy in kotg
If kotg was just all about summoning more nonsense with procs I would love that so much
Keeper allowing starweaver to be played is a W
can play weaver in ec as well
youll probably sit at capped ap for a bit to spend all the procs tho
More fun tho
Both specs can be fun
I think partly the reason why EC is looked down on is how disappointing it is
The gameplay is okay but the ceiling for what they could do out of the EC theme is crazy
Can I post about reasoning what to pick from vault?
EC feels good when starfire does big dam. Also rip natures grace quick casting
same with other high stat budget slots like weapons and tier slots
Possibly silly question, but new to boomy, should you aim to only hard press eclipse when you have 3 stacks of starlord?
What would you change about it?
are hands best 2nd craft right now?
already got all my tier spots filled
got myth tier head today
crafting hands later
i would just start over
rip out every talent in there that gives you damage and make new ones
I pray my sims aren't lying and i can actually drop FoE
make lunation increase the duration of your eclipse by like 0.25s or something each arcane cast
instead of foe cdr
Is probably what u do if u have tier already yes
Should sim it
So it would be eclipse focused?
remove moons from spec tree and make it the base EC talent
but make them proc based instant casts
U could drop foe before
each moon you cast reduces CD of ca/incarn by 1s
It does however help asp gen
Just wait til all the frogs don't want to play wild mushroom on vaelgors
I wish convoke was separate from incarn. It is such a fun button to press

i played 5 second convoke last night
Got 285 crafted staff. In vault BiS dungeon weapon (staff) with avoidance tertiary, or myth track legs or helm. Take weapon and I need to catalyse a champion piece to get to 4pc. Take helm and catalyse that would be the bigger damage upgrade right now. Sim says take helm, but the chances of getting that weapon ever again are very small. Chances of getting another myth track helm are a lot bigger.
that felt so weird
I knew you were suspicious
nothing else was simming better. But im pretty sure its because my trinkets were ass and my burst window sucked
How do u know staff is "bis in vault"
Idk why u would take a 4 ilvl "upgrade" after crafting a staff
That math doesn't math
Moons are always fun to see. I am always in favor of more moons
U also don't have 4p so ur just always taking tier
These hero specs really need more choice nodes to spice things up
And helm drops from first boss, so logic would say legs
Thanks.
also think Keeper should dive more into the forest theme
let us spawn some of those sporetenders you see in grudge pit
instead of treants
make it themed around wild mushroom with sporetender treants
Oo after 3 mushrooms u spawn a giga mushroom
I want kotg to just be stuffed with summons
agreed. also having a hero tree that plays off an optional spec talent is just weird.
for EC its worse since the optional talent is at the bottom of the tree
for keeper its fine cause its 2nd row
but EC is effectively always behind in talent diversity
More convokes
theres no reason i shouldnt be able to spawn gnarlroot and have him smack shit for me
Every fury of elune proc and cast extends the duration of your next convoke by 2s
The sky shall burn
can't you sim for stuff in your great vault too?
Yes
Anyone found a way to kill nullaeus ?? as balance? Trying to survive one hit with barkskin and bear form only works when no random melee hit happens at the same time...
Yea, press n and play bear
Sockey like me
Myth heart of wind, myth tier, h vaelgor, h Alleria trink
Probably not soon, chest
No
Sim it, prob says take vaelgor :/
Is vaelgor > alleria trink?
It's like 3k diff
If u don't have one ye
I have normal alleria trink and a 6/6 hero heart of wind
Even when chainpulling in m+?
Tbh its bad in m+
I have neither, so I have no idea ๐
I'm still running around at 3k rating with the free champion trinket
No luck so far
Ur likely not playing ribbon in m+
There's a bunch of dungeons that ull lose stacks in
boots or wrists
As someone whos been using it all week I can confirm its shit
Sockey
no for crafting ma boy
Gloves
cant
Sure u can
Go get 4p and fix that
im crafting wrists
Smh
Emnithy playing 3weeks behind feelsbad
i truly am
granted i made a mistake and catad hands by accident
but i had to use 3 catas today and equip an LFR tier chest
to get 4p
but that is not the biggest dps increase i can get atm
Doubt
It will be
Go get some hero wrists
my hands are hero, my legs and wrists are champ
I should slam myth gloves as soon as I get home right arctic?
i also do not have time to play a whole lot before raid tonight so i want to have as many upgrades as possible before raid
I'm questioning myself myth gloves/hero chest/trinket
my trinkets sucks hard (Drum/keepsake) and I'm only 2p now
trinket symms better than all
How come the guide states dagger/off hand, but mostly using a staff?
Is myth waist shit item or safe to craft?
those boots are bait, stinky little orbs you gotta pick up catch me with that nonsense
How good is feather for us? It's like the only meaningful thing I got in my vault besides tier...
lame
it's ok i think, but not S/A tier
Thereโs a macro to cancel aura the debuff apparently just an fyi
The debuff is a buff
Because it's crest efficient
Interesting
Sim it. Gloves have more stats
how often do you even get cata charges
Trinkey good
But depends when ur killing myth
Thanks for the answers... Feather was simming tragically low compared to my other mythic+ off pieces.
i got a myth haste/matery staff out of my vault before i could make a crafted weapon. what crafted piece should i make to put the hunt embellishment on now?
Well it only goes on weapon so
You can use it to flap faster at least 

sorry i meant what other embellishment should i do? can you do two of the arcanoweave?
should i NOT take a myth weapon?
U shouldn't feel like u have to
boots or gloves both sim the same ?
Using myth crests on off pieces kinda beans
Think there's not many good stats glove
since I got a myth haste/mast staff out of my vault and I haven't crafted yet, I'm thinking of crafting an arcanoweave piece and the loa ring. Does the loa ring's effect make me want to socket different gem colors or no?
oh hold on maybe I should scroll up

ah well I did take the staff so here I am
there was a myth offhand in the vault too, maybe that was a better choice but alas
Well no it's not
I prob would've taken stick too or socket
But idk why we're taking items out of vault and not simming
And or reading a guide
U should've crafted staff last week
vibe gearing
i guess long term yeah, crown boots are insane so gloves make the most sense. not that i'll have crown boots anytime soon but yeah
mog is the true endgame content everyone knows that
is that why you always get mogged? looool
i did read the guide and i'm currently trying to sim i just dont want to pass on a myth weapon if i dont have to i just find it odd we only have 2 options for embellishments and one of them is a wep but the guide says to pass to the next if we get a staff early in season i just don't like redoing stuff
Well 1 of those options is better
I have the staff in my vault and simmed and 289 vault staff is .2% (70dps) better than 285 crafted for 20 more myth crests
That assumes ur not crafting against a new embell
But the point was that u created a myth staff last week earlier than u could've gotten a mythic weapkn
And then later on u craft an oh when u get my 289
But there's a sequence to all of this, which was why u did certain things
Last week u couldn't get mythic weapon, so u crafted one
Waiting to craft on first prog week is a choice on jah
arctic did u get hof last night
Pulled paladins for like 30min
gunna be a easy tier
not sure how to feel about it
might have to actually take up another mmo
wow is a seasonal game
you game for like 2 months start of season then chill until next tier
What sucks is that selling last boss goes for less faster
How many myth bosses do you think will be puggable this tier?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/ketosis
i'm parsing nearly perfectly on bosses as boomkin.
It's laugable
first 4 at least
people have pugged hof chimerus already

id imagine with gear paladins pretty easily doable too later
is this one button rotation
do you stop and ponder about life between every spell
does the EC m+ build change when u get 4p?
not rly, only if you want it to change
arctic do the thing
idk there is a lot to work on in here
No i tried really hard ๐
lost efficiency on CA and FoE, less than 80% cast uptime, almost 20% cancelled casts
let sunfire fall off 6 times
you should also change your talents
2 min convoke with starweaver and RM seems old
the log was from friday and that build was old like 3 weeks ago
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Blizzard keeps killing off fun characters and it's sad. They better leave Astalor alone
youre also casting starfire in lunar for some reason in keeper of the grove
on single target
how is it a waste i dont get it
heres the vault boys
idk i think you should maybe go back to the drawing board and just hit a training dummy
Mythic heart ๐
what would i be using those myth crests on
like if i dont have anythiung else to craft
i took mythic heart on my alt xd
raid drops with higher stat budget for example
90% chance i take vaelgor here
Is someone willing to teach me Boomkin? I just dont want to be last in DPS in raid and doing tank damage in keys...
Yeah im new to boomie this expansion. Ill say on my main i would do terrible things for a mythic heart
i've tried so many times to learn it
@stoic fog use correct build on wowhead, read the compendium link for rotation info, spam ur buttons esp in cooldown windows, its ok to mess up cuz u will eventually get it. Also read boss details so u know when u need to cast when moving. U got it G! GL
Is the Vaelgore stare the supreme mastery trinket?
I'm not at home
Like super puzzle box?
okay Thank you i'll just start over again i guess
Belt and bracer are low scale items
So better ones
its pretty fuckin big for boomy yea
id craft boots
Oh yeah you gotta take that
That thing is busted
Sure if that's how u have to justify it
Sure, but there's better boots out there silly
against the hero vaelgor
Now sim it at 7m
by the time i will have to worry about killing that boss and looting those boots, myth crests wont be in such short supply\
Im a puzzle box hater and always will be. That thing is super amazing tho
Myth staff over crafted weapon?
I'm new to balance, is there a primary go to for info and learning? I see there is a Dreamgrove Compendium here in the resources but also wowhead and icy veins. Just not sure where I should start ๐คข I haven't touched my druid since legion and back then it was feral so I'm totally lost.
Do it "right" now
What am I answering
The wowhead guide and dreamgrove guide are written by the same person but for difference audiences
do i just slam myth track gloves immediately?
i crafted gloves cause the mythic tier gloves are ass stats
I did
copy that
Hi, is there anyone here that can help me out with balance rotation?
@frank sailcheck the compendium read it and then ask any questions about that your confused about
Have u read the guide and practiced the rotation and repeated that process 2-3 times
Are any of these worth? I feel like offhands are the best option but BiS for boomy are twohanded, no?
cursed vault brother, r i p
rip I should take tokens then?
Core principles is just keep things dotted, keep yourself buffed, and blast blast blast right?
Then sim it
no
Mythic heart vs normal ribbon

Yes I read the guides on all diffrent kind of sites and still my dps is shit.. So I must do something very wrong.
theres 2 items named ribbon in that vault
Post a log
Missing a lot of words in that statement
"just blast" is what I do, then people why they aren't doing damage and I need to explain what blast means
Holy waste of time, need that weapon
Me trying to figure out what blast means right now (I am reading the compedium and hitting dummies rn)
I will try go back to dummies and see what my damage is now since I changed some gear
Should reiterate that recording ur gameplay does help

Are there any dummies I can use that won't get hit by my starfall or FoN? I am trying to gauge my ST damage the cleave dummies keep getting dotted up
Dorn
Weak mind
giga undertuned
Fair enough ๐ I am just trying to gauge progress and didn't want to be mislead by cleave
killed rag in 1 minute
what a tragic vault
free hero track
Can you run logs on yourself while hitting a target dummy? I've never bothered to check. Just wondering if doing that while practicing rotation and then dumping it into wowanalyzer
Yes
all bosses or just rag
either or
think they meant the tuning
so you can do the tw weekly in the raid or you can juoin a rag skip

oh idk if the rest of the raid is easy
i would assume it is
rag has 7mil hp lmao
U could download an action tracking addon then stream
yea its tw surely
do the thing
Idk the thing
rag dies in 1 minute xd
ya doin it rn
banned
Occlusion of Void shows BIS on wowhead but the trinket is simming higher by quite a bit. Should i grab the ring and grind better trinkets or take trinket? Sim is showing my Champion crucible out performs my hero Wakrapuku and Eye of the drowning void
I tried 5 mins on a dummy, but ye, something is very off
That just means u have 1 shit trinket not that that trinket is really good
A meter doesn't help determine if ur playing correctly
I will try and log something, maybe I can enter M+ or something soon, just that I keep getting declined for all grps lol so I am struggling to find something here
Make ur own group
what should i do here i m at lost especially with the stafff myth trach (haste mastery) i crafted my weapon 285) can anyone help me out here
You could also use a follower dungeon if you're just wanting to test things out.
I was curious about the Occlusion of Void showing as BIS - wouldn't the Occlusion with mastery be better?
Well ur not taking staff so sim the other shit
And likely sim a sockey
What if u use both
wdym by sockey ?
I will definately try that
U know like when u need to clean up.... Something and u need a sockey
A socket lol
Sure, but both aren't listed as BiS, so you'd not bet getting the set bonus either way. That means it'd be Void v Light and I don't understand why the high crit low haste one is better
the 2 others things left are the shouldter tier set and the soul cather Mythic
That's not true
Where does it say u don't use both
Hence the question...
Given experience and performance, I assume Gamz knows the class better than I do. But if something looks wrong, it's natural to ask about it...unsure why that seems to have you tilted
i thought it was peta
@vital hound what do u play nowadays still boomy or what

How expensive is it to craft the weapon? bis for boomy
I'm simming crafted gloves or boots and crit/haste wins out over crit/mastery (albeit by a small amount)...is it worth listening to this or just go with crit/mastery?
was like 20-25k a few nights ago with embellishment and everything
Gamz makes oopsie poopsies all the time
Crit haste better for offspecs anyway
U can sim the difference if u want
if u dont care about wasting some money in the future to recraft for diff stats, go for whatever the bot says its highest
Ultimately the difference won't matter
ooh gotcha, thanks yall
atleast u didnt open ur vault in feral and get a myth wep drop
that u couldnt use
and forgo the opportunity for vaelgors
BIG rip
cant imagine that happening to someone frfr
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is locus better than gaze? sims much lower for me for some reason
Show sim
For future reference donโt gear compare just top gear it
yea i mean i dont have the items was just checking
top gear is literally easier to add item combos yea
There's a reason gear compare is deprecated and hidden away
was just wondering why it was used in the bis sim if it sims 500dps worse
stuff like locus walkers is always good in prog for raid but not elsewhere, ramping trinkets like that are generally worse because they arent burst focused which is where most of your dmg generally comes from
theres probably multiple fights that do actually go up to 8 mins in mythic later on
if not longer
yea i mean it sims worse on 8 minutes too
gaze also scales with haste because the int procs arent capped ive had like 20 stacks before during lust
idk why it simmed better for them on their early bis lists
but makes sense that gaze is better imo
ah well that makes more sense if the bis sim runs lower haste
which im pretty sure it does compared to my gear
Rotational question I'm having a tough time finding the answer to: how do you use your second incarn charge on the opener? Do you send it right after the first one finishes so it still benefits from potion/hero, or do you do one solar eclipse proc first and delay the second charge to line it up with Force of Nature coming off CD?
incarn with trees again
generally
squeeze two eclipses in between
is what i see people normally do
^unless theres some specific reason u dont wanna send incarn again on the next trees then i think u just send with next trees pretty much always
ew. thinking is a dps loss
go to lorgs copy paste hit when they hit if u dont wanna think x))
wym whats a dps loss
lol
sitting on an eclipse charge is worse than delaying cds by 5 seconds
Is there a macro to cast innerv on a particular player without putting mouse on him ?
/target (name here)
/cast Innervate
/targetlasttarget
if youre assigned to a particular person
Hmm. I have 266 of the set NPX rings and I am wondering is the set BiS at max ilvl or are better stated rings better? Asking because of my unlucky vault
Ty will try it. Name is name-server right ?
nah just their name if theyre in your group is good enough
that ring isnt better statted, id take the gloves personally but u should probably sim it
Looks like crafting two off piece items instead of a weapon gamble may have paid off even though itโs just a 1h
Canโt you just โ/cast [@playername] Innervateโ
idk try it out, ive always just done it the other way i said earlier so i never tried anything else tbh
works fine so never fixed it
lol
based on sims, that ring is one of the best for me, which is why i am kinda on the fence, especially because the gloves are not statted great either
this is what I always want to show when ppl say bad vault
That's what you get for crafting a weapon
ACTUALLY
damn right. its not even in english
I didnโt craft anything
Oh nice
You are damn right, Iโm a sneaky chino
I waited also just in case I got myth weapon this week
If not I was gonna craft for mythic raid
But I got a similar vault and took a weapon and now figuring out what to craft now
But the price I paid was, no ring no trinket farmed from keys
Only heroic trinket I got was heart
That's not ur bis, so who cares
Thatโs my bis for M+
did this man just grade his own paper?
yes as always
That's how it works on the chinese servers
A+ isnt S
arctic can i not sim gloves rn
Why not
$20 for a sick mount and you get to tell them that you got a bis item
it will not allow me to sim at 285
can you slam an embel on gloves?
Go add the currency at the top prob
"erhm idk can u"
๐ค
i have the currency
Show
its been goofy
may they?
just max all
Chino teachers and parents never accept S
that didnt help
Why doesn't that help
click the ilvl bit instead of typing
I want to craft belt actually
Also yea u put it in with 233 ilvl
Type 285 in the box silly
Mind of an m+er
Sim it then edit the raw input


Yes always
howdy yall, just wondering in an ideal world, which tier pice should we not have? Gloves?
do it gooder
next trouble shoot
just click the box and click the one yea
i cliecked this, still 233, next troubleshoot
Click the number silly
isn't that the wrong item? isnt it uh
run sim
silvermoon something or other
285 5/6 one
at 233
refresh or something, its not syncing with the items
FUK





