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obsidian fjord
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now now

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people in glass houses

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as they say

royal zenith
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@lofty depot

spice roost
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theres no shot he will expose himeself

royal zenith
lofty depot
royal zenith
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almost got blue logs

lofty depot
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Who's that tho

royal zenith
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me!

lofty depot
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Can't be u

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Nahhhhb

royal zenith
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hell yeah

lofty depot
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I blue logged. Me shit

lucid olive
royal zenith
lofty depot
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Me cant pad enough

royal zenith
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:<

royal zenith
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was kinda sad

lofty depot
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I get vaelgors in vault surely

lofty depot
obsidian fjord
royal zenith
obsidian fjord
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common mistake

lofty depot
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Is he gonna show logs or

spice roost
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nope

round field
abstract parrot
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are you guys dotting adds on mythic vorasius

lofty depot
obsidian fjord
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personally I wouldn't ask others for log check if I was blue parsing

royal zenith
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sometimes yes sometimes no

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depends on the vibe

round field
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if the vibes shift i will vomit

lofty depot
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There's far more to look at than the number

royal zenith
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the best thing for prog right now

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would be to delete voidorbs from logs

round field
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no

spice roost
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noooo

round field
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smaller number bad

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bigger number gooder

royal zenith
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you would also do 3x less damage than MM hunter

spice roost
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then they would not die fast

lofty depot
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And now everyone 3 tanks so shits grouped up

obsidian fjord
royal zenith
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yeh is true

lofty depot
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Giga cringe

obsidian fjord
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boss has no relevant damage check on the dragons

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killing orbs fast good

lofty depot
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If there's no damage check why do u need to kill orbs fast

royal zenith
obsidian fjord
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because orbs do damage to your players

kindred pine
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do you starfall on 2 targets?

obsidian fjord
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damage check means enrage

lofty depot
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Oh, so there is something that kills u

royal zenith
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I dunno, you just kill the orbs

spice roost
obsidian fjord
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do you know what a damage check means

lofty depot
royal zenith
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doesn't matter if it's 1.5seconds or 1.3

obsidian fjord
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i even specified the dragons

lofty depot
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Orbs do be killing u

round field
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I have never died to an orb on that fight

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So if u are

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Skill issue

lofty depot
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I got feared for like 15 seconds on kill pull

obsidian fjord
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because you kill them.

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if you don't kill or stack the orbs you would absolutely die to them, the damage they do stacks

lofty depot
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Healers will pay for this transgression

spice roost
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lol

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gottem

fleet ocean
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why bloodmallet have not suport for balance?

spice roost
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that site is crap and useless

lucid olive
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because nobody has comitted a profile to the simc github

lofty depot
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Why do u support that which u hate

round field
lofty depot
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Run a sim, stop looking at bloodmallet

lone turret
lofty depot
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Don't use that either

lucid olive
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but sure

round field
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ai slop website

lucid olive
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just using generalized 276 item level stat distribution instead of actual items

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which is fine i guess

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other specs have items there so i suppose this just pulls SimC defaults as well, and since none of us have comitted one then the website just generalizes it

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uuuh or maybe not

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cause this is not very accurate i think

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coach whistle is not that good and neither is emberwing

lofty depot
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When was that sim ran

lucid olive
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mar 18

round field
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like 2 weeks ago

lofty depot
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Was likely before the nerfs

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Yea

lucid olive
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and before gaze changes

lofty depot
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Wow crazy

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Sim your character >

round field
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hmge

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this is just

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bloodmallet

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but worse

lone turret
round field
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dont laughing emoji me

lucid olive
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at least bloodmallet just doesn't run the sim without a default profile

pallid bay
round field
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you should be embarassed

round field
pallid bay
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yes its dorovon

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the vod pov is kinda cool

round field
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vibecoder

pallid bay
jade flume
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What is this heatmap buddy

royal zenith
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It's more

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aka multiplicative

pallid bay
jade flume
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Send it, im a big boy

spice roost
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beloran lookin like a 1min convoke fight

nova slate
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Hey for someone never played boomie, but needs to learn it now, would you recommend dreamgrove.gg as the best starting point, or other written guides like wowhead/icyveins. And how good is the video guide from tettles?
THanks alot feedback is much appreciated ๐Ÿ™‚

digital berry
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Dreamgrove is the most up to date resource hub you can find

royal zenith
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ackshually it's a compendium

nova slate
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and how important is Soltice as a buff? Is it worth to delay eclipse or a proc to maximize Solstice uptime? Ofc i need to get into rotation and basics first

vagrant bronze
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LF some Boomies who have killed Mythic Vorasius that would be willing to share logs with me. I currently sit as top boomie with boss damage, but my add phase aoe is lackluster and with that brings my parse to shit. Looking for a bit of insight on how some are parsing 100k+ basically with add phase aoe being the contributor.

harsh sonnet
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anyone been toying with the plater script that changes nameplate depending on how many dots you have? works for spriest but might get messy as balance idk?

normal pilot
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just dont take any debuff applying talents

lofty depot
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Just change the spell IDs and see surely

ruby badger
lofty depot
normal pilot
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there's no spell id it just counts the # of debuffs

ruby badger
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Save your incarn charges for the add phases as well

lofty depot
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That's a get fucked then maybe

ruby badger
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I think that'd probably be the most effective add killing set up

lofty depot
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We have too many

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Once u get fixated, u aren't fixated again

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So u can stand in center if u get first and just slam

digital berry
ruby badger
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Depends on your raid

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Sometimes letting the boomie handle the adds while other people focus boss damage is a pretty effective strat

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It's a pretty relevant DPS check for non-great guilds

indigo ether
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I assume we craft hands this week?

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my rings arent great but my best craft sim are rings since i have way too much crit rn

lucid olive
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depends what you get in vault but yeah

indigo ether
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do yall clear raid first before taking from vault?

lucid olive
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maybe if the solstice duration is like egregious

lucid olive
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open vault and then see like "I have two options, and I can get at least one of them from reclear, so I should wait with picking vault and see if I get it or not"

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and then make decision after

indigo ether
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Even when I roll high, some person comes in and rolls a 99

ruby badger
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if you're still rolling for items it doesnt matter

indigo ether
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yeah im pug life

lucid olive
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the chance to get item is 50/50 anyway

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either you get item or you don't get item

indigo ether
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Also, I know this isn't a Gamz ui support channel. But how do I untether the bigwigs' bars/countdowns from their position? They're locked into place for me. Not letting me move them to a different position.

lucid olive
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anchor settings

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it's in "bars" tab and then the last undertab I think? don't remember what its called

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give me 2 min I can log in and show you

ruby badger
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If you're not working with any myth raid slots then probably just take a myth piece with mainstat from the M+ slots this week or a really good trinket/jewelry piece myth

indigo ether
lucid olive
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then do the "emphasized bars" for other one

indigo ether
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So just adjust x/y positioning?

lucid olive
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yeah basically

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should probably change what its anchored to depending where you want to move it

drifting nova
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@lucid olive saw that post about you, you'l get there one day

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small steps

lucid olive
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like if you want it above player frame you'd do ElvUF_Player and set source point to bottom and destination point to top

indigo ether
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Last question. Do you use the Raid Timing Addon reminder? I dont know exactly what its called but, you open it up and it shows a bunch of timelines and you can customize it.

lucid olive
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timelinereminders yes

indigo ether
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Do you by chance have preset or is it based on what your guild/raid needs?

lucid olive
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its a paywalled addon i have through a guildwide subscription so it's not something to give out

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don't have any presets no

indigo ether
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ah ok

lucid olive
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maybe for later bosses i'll make some reminders if it needs it

drifting nova
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quazi noises

indigo ether
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dang since when did we start paywalling addons

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Last i played until Midnight was S1 SL

lucid olive
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sadge

spice roost
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baloeran is a 1min convoke fight right?

lucid olive
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maybe

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5s ec convoke maybe

spice roost
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ya im not playing ec fk that

lucid olive
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doin less dam

spice roost
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wdym 5s

lucid olive
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astral insight makes convoke a 5 sec channel

spice roost
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oh

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and get stuck in wrong color?

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and die

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that sounds terrible

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nvm im tired not thinking

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would be wierd to play ec tho on st

lucid olive
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just weird if you think its dmg loss

normal pilot
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ec is the future

gaunt lantern
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I am wondering if blizzard is ever going to crack down on paywalled addons because I'm pretty sure its explicitly agianst the ToS

lucid olive
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where in the TOS does it say that

normal pilot
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certainly not for a while since those addons are making up for blizz's own failings in the UI

lucid olive
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or is it that one blue post from years ago being quoted again

drifting nova
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do not all delves have a quest or am I high

gaunt lantern
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there

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"1) Add-ons must be free of charge."

drifting nova
lucid olive
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yeah so its the random blue post again

drifting nova
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(goodbye liquid)

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and echo for that matter

gaunt lantern
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tbf, thats actually them referencing the policy itself

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which I am not finding an easily accessible link to

normal pilot
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there's general terms in the EULA about derivative works

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they can absolutely c&d all these paywalled addons/ui/etc.

lucid olive
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but at the end of the day they just do whatever they want with it

ruby badger
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TR is just such a goated addon, I don't like paywalling but I also don't like a shitload of dev work being done for free

lucid olive
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they could remove all the addons and ban the authors if they wanted to

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but the whole "its against their TOS!!" is repeated so many times as a reason

normal pilot
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well it is technically against the eula

lucid olive
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isnt the wording that blizzard can enforce it purely on their own discretion

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or whatever legal jargon they use in there

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basically legalese for "if we wanna ban you we can" pure vibe

normal pilot
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there's the blanket discretion part, but there's also a non-commerical use of platform

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so it's not just simply we can ban you for anything

indigo ether
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I love getting garbage

lofty depot
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Servers up

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Holy

wild dune
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big stocks

fleet ocean
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Server ups

fiery bough
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myth track feather hype?

modest wagon
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champ gaze or myth feather

meager storm
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ggs im done for this tier

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holy

normal pilot
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what if they nerf gaze

meager storm
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then my devourer will cry

normal pilot
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oh you're playing ddh

meager storm
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ye

normal pilot
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n/m then you automatically win can't lose

royal zenith
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yeah he's one of those

meager storm
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???

normal pilot
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don't mind deux he's just jealous

royal zenith
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not wrong

lofty depot
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Dak playing the spec that stole our best stuff

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Pretty toxic

digital berry
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WTF IS THIS SHIT

meager storm
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Pulsar

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my beloved

silent zinc
lofty depot
silent zinc
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someone help me with my vault please, i only do m+ no serious raiding

lofty depot
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Then show sim

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Vers yucky

silent zinc
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the feather sims the highest

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but a heroic final stare sims higher than myth track in the long run

lofty depot
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Why do u have shit trinkets smh

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Ur vault kinda yucky to be fair

silent zinc
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yeah

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this what i got rn

meager storm
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yeah u are downbad

silent zinc
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so yeah idk feather would be good temporarily

lofty depot
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Idk stats on this items in ur vault either but I'd probably not take feather..... Idk depends what everything else would

silent zinc
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haste vers myth belt

lofty depot
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Could take it and get free upgrades on other items

silent zinc
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yeah i probably will tbh

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ty

fiery bough
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Think I take gloves here the feather gets replaced by a heroic vael

lucid olive
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yeah id take the m+ hands there too

fiery bough
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Ya the longterm is what I look for from vaults

daring flicker
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I see a pattern here >_< 9/10 vaults get Feather ... kinda sus

modest wagon
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yeah I feel robbed

digital berry
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we send hands craft this week ?

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Or is there truly anything better

cloud quail
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Good morning friends, wondering if anyone has run into this...
Ok, I simmed my GV and there is absolutely no way it's right. anyone else have something similar? it said that a belt was the best upgrade, vs a higher level piece of tier gear, vs a vet-->heroic pair of pants. I just can't believe that. I could get the tier then catalyze another piece (we have 2 charges) and have a 4pc. how is a belt better?

indigo ether
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despite my shit vault

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I got this from my first ever timewalking

digital berry
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what is a target dummy sim

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patchwerk

cloud quail
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I changed it to target dummy just to see if it was different

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it wasn't

earnest barn
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2nd craft is hands, belt or boots?

normal pilot
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in that sim pants are only 9 ilevel upgrade, betl is 17

modest wagon
tawdry nimbus
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should I take a hero 3/6 (266) vaelgor final stare, or a hero 1/6 (259) set piece and catalyze another for 4 set ๐Ÿ™

cloud quail
nimble tangle
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hmmmm so which staff to pick

normal pilot
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sure but you didn't give it options to make a 4pc

copper gate
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Do we throw any embellishment onto the crafted gloves

normal pilot
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you only have 2pc equipped

cloud quail
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Ok, I guess I'm not sure how to give it that option

molten yoke
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Should I catalyst my myth gloves for tier or hero chest

normal pilot
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set the # of catalyst charges then press the + button on the items you might want to catalyze to convert

jolly lake
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Am I crazy or is balance kinda meh in m+ rn. Like not bad by any means..but yea

wintry umbra
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is guarenteed 4pc worth it over filling out a mythic tier slot but needing a drop or 1600pvp to get 4pc

peak wind
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anyone got this? its not very good according to wowhead but im not sure if its up to date.

lucid olive
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its okay

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but its not insane

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2 second channel that doesnt give you any stat buffs

molten yoke
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Should I catalyst my myth gloves for tier or hero chest

lofty depot
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<@&114146878353833984>

lofty depot
molten yoke
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True

wicked shuttle
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done

molten yoke
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Tettles bro hope u vibin homie

wise hare
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wraps

lucid olive
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!timeoutroulette

wise hare
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ur too addicted

wicked shuttle
digital berry
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What are we crafting boys and girls

lucid olive
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i stay winning

wise hare
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gg artic

wicked shuttle
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he'll be back in 5 minutes

lucid olive
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thats 5 minutes of cold sweats

cloud quail
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Ok, I think I have all boxes checked now. using crests, cat, etc. did I miss anything?

royal zenith
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losing the 50/50 is crazy

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arctic ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

lucid olive
heavy iris
lucid olive
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why do you expect that

heavy iris
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i have crit mastery gloves and will be able to max them with hero crests today

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could be wrong ill sim and see

low tulip
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What stat are we mostly picking for crafted gear? Haste/mast or crit/mast?

lucid olive
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either or works

lucid olive
digital berry
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i asume shoes or belt?

fast finch
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This might be a silly question but should I catalyze Heroic legs right now to complete 4 set or wait till raid ??

heavy iris
lucid olive
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gloves off vaelgor arent bad either

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but yeah

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crafting prio stuff is a bit different than recent seasons

restive jolt
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Hi there was hoping to get my 2 myth kills looked at, thought i was doing good rotation/cd wise on said bosses but looking at parse it seems theres alot to be improved on could someone look and help please and thankyou

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Vm13cdbP7J6WpnXk?fight=28&type=damage-done

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2b4hW9mngjQNLYKv?fight=14&type=damage-done

digital berry
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wait am i supposed to have 2 sparks today?

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i did the quest for the spark already

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but i only got 1

fast finch
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you should have 1 for last week

heavy iris
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do a weekly thing for catch up if you didnt do last weej

digital berry
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i did all weeklies last week, had 4 sparks and crafted the weapon

fast finch
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me too

digital berry
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would the timewalking weekly work to give me the last spark?

fast finch
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but still have 1

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+1 from quest this week

digital berry
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mind you i started playing last week on monday

heavy iris
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i dont think timewalkng weejly would

digital berry
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what other weekly would

heavy iris
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try the eversong one right iutside silvermoon

royal zenith
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you just do content for catch-up

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have you not played this game for 4 years or what

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smh

heavy iris
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any of the 4 zones ones should give the catchup one

lofty depot
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ur behind

lucid olive
digital berry
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ohh i havent finished it

lucid olive
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yeha thats ur last spark

digital berry
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missing one runestone defence

lucid olive
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thats the soltharil soiree event thing

digital berry
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yeah every time ive been to this place nothing has been going on

lucid olive
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you're not technically behind on the weekly sparks, you just don't have the 1 spark that doesnt count towards the cap

digital berry
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so i just gave up on it

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there is literally nothing to do at the saltherils haven location where the quest marker is taking me to

ornate girder
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to catalyze myth tier helmet or take mythic soulcatcher's charm from vault hmm

lucid olive
plucky valley
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i need help with picking vault upgrade. I have mythic heart of wind and champion final stare and this is the sim for both, not sure which to pick tho. Idk if ill ever see mythic heart of wind again yuh know?

lucid olive
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you talk to a guy on a stair to choose what tribe of blood elf you wanna bump uglies with

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then you talk to the representative of that tribe and do some reputation quests for them, which includes the runestone defence

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the runestone defence is also just done in LFG

plucky valley
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im thinking heart

lucid olive
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just get quest first, find group and blast some

royal zenith
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where's the logic exactly if stare literally sims more

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and by 1k more

plucky valley
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but

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you make good point

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1k more o:

royal zenith
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did you not sim the full upgraded

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or what's happening

plucky valley
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oh youre right

royal zenith
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set your currencies to like max, max all you're gear

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including vault items

plucky valley
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not fully uphgraded hearrt or stare

royal zenith
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see what happens at the top-end, what the dps increase is

plucky valley
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word

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smart man

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thank you soo much

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wow thats crazy

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stare it is

royal zenith
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Gamz also made a trinket list on the dreamgrove site

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so if you need a bit of guidence use it

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that's what it's for

plucky valley
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i did refer to it but wanted to ask here since the choice was between champ track and myth track

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looking back, maybe that was silly logic

digital berry
royal zenith
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dps all that matters

plucky valley
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but im happy I asked because now i know to fully upgrade sim items

royal zenith
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the renown trinket is also very strong for a simple 'champion' track

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(also the reason we should always sim)

lucid olive
plucky valley
royal zenith
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fully-upgraded, what's possible rn, what's potential (looking into the future), what you can or cannot farm, what you can or cannot get from raid

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etc.

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but people are too lazy for that

civic junco
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NOT A DRILL:

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PvP neck is haste/mast

digital berry
lucid olive
royal zenith
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maybe you just slow..

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:)

polar leaf
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Hello guys, I am looking for an "all dots applied" addon or what ever for balance druid

lofty depot
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what does that mean

tight trellis
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That reminds me actually. I havenโ€™t been too clued in on the addon freedom they keep giving us.
Whatโ€™s the best way to track dots on nameplates? I used to use nameplate border colours via Plater but not sure if anything like that would be available at the moment ?

obsidian inlet
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Boomie actually pretty fun this season

normal pilot
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only hack ppl have been able to come up with so far is changing color based on # of debuffs

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but that doesn't help balance that has debuffs that aren't the main dots

obsidian inlet
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I like the new eclipse system

tight trellis
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Ah. Could be sus with mushroom proc/astral procs then

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Cheers anyway

normal pilot
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just gotta learn to read icons and l2p like ion wants you to

tight trellis
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Real

slender island
lofty depot
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Like god intended

normal pilot
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i guess you might be able to only count debuffs that have duration > X, not sure if that value is secret

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maybe someone can throw claude at it

obsidian inlet
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What hero talent spec do you think is more fun?

lofty depot
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EC is boring

lofty depot
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Raidbots thought it had 2 sockets tho

royal zenith
tight trellis
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Should we be 2x Sunfiring in the opener or do we reapply mid incarn?

obsidian inlet
royal zenith
obsidian inlet
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There are cupcakes?

royal zenith
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I wish

obsidian inlet
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We have mushrooms

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Those are kinda like cupcakes

royal zenith
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think Ill prefer cupcakes..

tight trellis
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Thinking kotg with convoke

lofty depot
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Convoke doesn't matter

lucid olive
obsidian inlet
lofty depot
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I didn't say it wasn't good

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I said it was boring

obsidian inlet
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What do you like more about kotg?

normal pilot
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just being paid by the keeper lobby smh

obsidian inlet
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Visually, ec is pretty fun

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But I can see how one might find it more boring

lucid olive
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arctic likes to get down and move with the keeper of the groove

obsidian inlet
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I admit I like the trees a lot

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Ec does allow me to better focus my one brain cell

lofty depot
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What do u like about ec

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The common answer is "I like lasers"

round field
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worst spell in the universe

obsidian inlet
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I know treant gives a nice burst

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Tbh I hated ec last expansion

lofty depot
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I dot in keeper and have asp pretty full all the same

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Trees give more burst and dot things for u

obsidian inlet
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Dunno why I've warmed up to it this season but i haven't gotten around to playing kotg yet. Just booted up my boomie as an alt this weekend

obsidian inlet
normal pilot
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trees are lame laser are cool what more do you need

obsidian inlet
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You also get a dryad buddy in kotg

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If kotg was just all about summoning more nonsense with procs I would love that so much

lucid olive
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keeper feels more like a moonkin than ec

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interacts more with the rest of your stuff

tight trellis
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Keeper allowing starweaver to be played is a W

lucid olive
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can play weaver in ec as well

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youll probably sit at capped ap for a bit to spend all the procs tho

lofty depot
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More fun tho

obsidian inlet
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Both specs can be fun

lucid olive
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I think partly the reason why EC is looked down on is how disappointing it is

indigo ether
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are any of the M+ trinkets worth

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using hero crests on

lucid olive
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The gameplay is okay but the ceiling for what they could do out of the EC theme is crazy

long juniper
#

Can I post about reasoning what to pick from vault?

lucid olive
#

upgrading trinkets always good in general

tight trellis
#

EC feels good when starfire does big dam. Also rip natures grace quick casting

lucid olive
#

same with other high stat budget slots like weapons and tier slots

hearty violet
#

Possibly silly question, but new to boomy, should you aim to only hard press eclipse when you have 3 stacks of starlord?

obsidian inlet
fallow wing
#

are hands best 2nd craft right now?

indigo ether
#

got myth tier head today

#

crafting hands later

lucid olive
#

rip out every talent in there that gives you damage and make new ones

red nymph
#

I pray my sims aren't lying and i can actually drop FoE

lucid olive
#

make lunation increase the duration of your eclipse by like 0.25s or something each arcane cast

#

instead of foe cdr

lofty depot
#

Should sim it

obsidian inlet
#

So it would be eclipse focused?

lucid olive
#

remove moons from spec tree and make it the base EC talent

#

but make them proc based instant casts

lofty depot
lucid olive
#

each moon you cast reduces CD of ca/incarn by 1s

lofty depot
#

It does however help asp gen

#

Just wait til all the frogs don't want to play wild mushroom on vaelgors

obsidian inlet
#

I wish convoke was separate from incarn. It is such a fun button to press

lucid olive
obsidian inlet
#

Hmmm I see

#

Hates lasers and funny random button

lucid olive
#

i played 5 second convoke last night

long juniper
#

Got 285 crafted staff. In vault BiS dungeon weapon (staff) with avoidance tertiary, or myth track legs or helm. Take weapon and I need to catalyse a champion piece to get to 4pc. Take helm and catalyse that would be the bigger damage upgrade right now. Sim says take helm, but the chances of getting that weapon ever again are very small. Chances of getting another myth track helm are a lot bigger.

lucid olive
#

that felt so weird

obsidian inlet
#

I knew you were suspicious

red nymph
lofty depot
lucid olive
#

i like fury of elune

#

i think moons and FoE should be separate

lofty depot
#

Idk why u would take a 4 ilvl "upgrade" after crafting a staff

#

That math doesn't math

obsidian inlet
#

Moons are always fun to see. I am always in favor of more moons

lofty depot
#

U also don't have 4p so ur just always taking tier

obsidian inlet
#

These hero specs really need more choice nodes to spice things up

lofty depot
#

And helm drops from first boss, so logic would say legs

long juniper
#

Thanks.

lofty depot
#

Logic

#

Also, sim it

lucid olive
#

let us spawn some of those sporetenders you see in grudge pit

#

instead of treants

#

make it themed around wild mushroom with sporetender treants

lofty depot
#

Oo after 3 mushrooms u spawn a giga mushroom

obsidian inlet
#

I want kotg to just be stuffed with summons

red nymph
lucid olive
#

for EC its worse since the optional talent is at the bottom of the tree

#

for keeper its fine cause its 2nd row

#

but EC is effectively always behind in talent diversity

obsidian inlet
#

More convokes

lucid olive
#

theres no reason i shouldnt be able to spawn gnarlroot and have him smack shit for me

obsidian inlet
#

Every fury of elune proc and cast extends the duration of your next convoke by 2s

#

The sky shall burn

stark meteor
lofty depot
#

Yes

still iris
#

Anyone found a way to kill nullaeus ?? as balance? Trying to survive one hit with barkskin and bear form only works when no random melee hit happens at the same time...

lofty depot
#

Yea, press n and play bear

dense steeple
#

Arctic im at work

#

What do i take from vault

lofty depot
#

Sockey like me

dense steeple
#

Myth heart of wind, myth tier, h vaelgor, h Alleria trink

lofty depot
#

What is the myth tier

#

When r u killing vaelgor

dense steeple
#

Probably not soon, chest

lofty depot
#

Take tier

#

Wait do u have a vaelgor

#

Or

dense steeple
#

No

lofty depot
#

Sim it, prob says take vaelgor :/

still iris
#

Is vaelgor > alleria trink?

lofty depot
#

It's like 3k diff

lofty depot
dense steeple
#

I have normal alleria trink and a 6/6 hero heart of wind

still iris
#

Even when chainpulling in m+?

dense steeple
#

Tbh its bad in m+

still iris
#

I have neither, so I have no idea ๐Ÿ˜„

#

I'm still running around at 3k rating with the free champion trinket

#

No luck so far

lofty depot
#

Ur likely not playing ribbon in m+

#

There's a bunch of dungeons that ull lose stacks in

digital berry
#

boots or wrists

dense steeple
#

As someone whos been using it all week I can confirm its shit

lofty depot
digital berry
#

no for crafting ma boy

lofty depot
#

Gloves

digital berry
#

cant

lofty depot
#

Sure u can

digital berry
#

its a tier piece

#

no more cata

lofty depot
#

Go get 4p and fix that

digital berry
#

im crafting wrists

lofty depot
#

Smh

dense steeple
#

Emnithy playing 3weeks behind feelsbad

digital berry
#

i truly am

#

granted i made a mistake and catad hands by accident

#

but i had to use 3 catas today and equip an LFR tier chest

#

to get 4p

lofty depot
#

Ok, so then u can get cata charges now

#

Go farm some

#

And craft gloves

digital berry
#

but that is not the biggest dps increase i can get atm

lofty depot
#

Doubt

dense steeple
#

It will be

lofty depot
#

Go get some hero wrists

digital berry
#

my hands are hero, my legs and wrists are champ

dense steeple
#

I should slam myth gloves as soon as I get home right arctic?

lofty depot
#

Surely

#

Myth crests valuable, wasting on shit item bad

digital berry
#

i also do not have time to play a whole lot before raid tonight so i want to have as many upgrades as possible before raid

nimble quiver
#

I'm questioning myself myth gloves/hero chest/trinket

my trinkets sucks hard (Drum/keepsake) and I'm only 2p now

trinket symms better than all

kindred token
#

How come the guide states dagger/off hand, but mostly using a staff?

still iris
#

Is myth waist shit item or safe to craft?

heavy iris
#

are the world tree boots not huge increase?

#

over crafted gloves

loud kettle
#

those boots are bait, stinky little orbs you gotta pick up catch me with that nonsense

steel fulcrum
#

How good is feather for us? It's like the only meaningful thing I got in my vault besides tier...

heavy iris
#

lame

nimble quiver
copper gate
#

The debuff is a buff

lofty depot
steel fulcrum
#

Interesting

lofty depot
digital berry
#

how often do you even get cata charges

lofty depot
#

But depends when ur killing myth

steel fulcrum
#

Thanks for the answers... Feather was simming tragically low compared to my other mythic+ off pieces.

astral pike
#

i got a myth haste/matery staff out of my vault before i could make a crafted weapon. what crafted piece should i make to put the hunt embellishment on now?

lofty depot
#

Well it only goes on weapon so

uncut roost
steel fulcrum
astral pike
lofty depot
#

U can

#

That implies u took the staff out of vault tho

#

๐Ÿ‘€

astral pike
#

should i NOT take a myth weapon?

lofty depot
#

U shouldn't feel like u have to

heavy iris
#

boots or gloves both sim the same ?

lofty depot
#

Using myth crests on off pieces kinda beans

lofty depot
ebon void
#

since I got a myth haste/mast staff out of my vault and I haven't crafted yet, I'm thinking of crafting an arcanoweave piece and the loa ring. Does the loa ring's effect make me want to socket different gem colors or no?

#

oh hold on maybe I should scroll up

dull dust
ebon void
#

ah well I did take the staff so here I am

#

there was a myth offhand in the vault too, maybe that was a better choice but alas

lofty depot
#

Well no it's not

dull dust
#

I prob would've taken stick too or socket

lofty depot
#

But idk why we're taking items out of vault and not simming

#

And or reading a guide

#

U should've crafted staff last week

jaunty blaze
#

vibe gearing

heavy iris
dull dust
#

mogmaxing

jaunty blaze
#

mog is the true endgame content everyone knows that

royal zenith
#

is that why you always get mogged? looool

jaunty blaze
#

too real

astral pike
# lofty depot But idk why we're taking items out of vault and not simming

i did read the guide and i'm currently trying to sim i just dont want to pass on a myth weapon if i dont have to i just find it odd we only have 2 options for embellishments and one of them is a wep but the guide says to pass to the next if we get a staff early in season i just don't like redoing stuff

lofty depot
#

Well 1 of those options is better

fast sequoia
lofty depot
#

That assumes ur not crafting against a new embell

#

But the point was that u created a myth staff last week earlier than u could've gotten a mythic weapkn

#

And then later on u craft an oh when u get my 289

#

But there's a sequence to all of this, which was why u did certain things

#

Last week u couldn't get mythic weapon, so u crafted one

#

Waiting to craft on first prog week is a choice on jah

dull dust
#

arctic did u get hof last night

lofty depot
#

Ye

#

Killed vaelgors aswell

dull dust
#

gzgz

lofty depot
#

Pulled paladins for like 30min

dull dust
#

gunna be a easy tier

#

not sure how to feel about it

#

might have to actually take up another mmo

exotic perch
#

easy tiers are great

#

dont let the rwf stans tell you otherwise

dull dust
#

gallywix was great

#

except for one armed destroying my pc

lucid olive
#

wow is a seasonal game

#

you game for like 2 months start of season then chill until next tier

dull dust
#

real

#

after that u push keys without mdt route sims

lofty depot
#

What sucks is that selling last boss goes for less faster

random wadi
#

How many myth bosses do you think will be puggable this tier?

stoic fog
#

It's laugable

dull dust
#

people have pugged hof chimerus already

#

id imagine with gear paladins pretty easily doable too later

lucid olive
#

do you stop and ponder about life between every spell

molten yoke
#

does the EC m+ build change when u get 4p?

lucid olive
dull dust
lucid olive
stoic fog
lucid olive
#

lost efficiency on CA and FoE, less than 80% cast uptime, almost 20% cancelled casts

#

let sunfire fall off 6 times

#

you should also change your talents

#

2 min convoke with starweaver and RM seems old

#

the log was from friday and that build was old like 3 weeks ago

stoic fog
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

obsidian inlet
lucid olive
#

youre also casting starfire in lunar for some reason in keeper of the grove

#

on single target

digital berry
dense steeple
#

heres the vault boys

lucid olive
#

idk i think you should maybe go back to the drawing board and just hit a training dummy

stoic fog
#

I spent like 12 hours learning boomkin ๐Ÿ™

#

ughh i do

obsidian inlet
digital berry
#

like if i dont have anythiung else to craft

dense steeple
dull dust
#

raid drops with higher stat budget for example

dense steeple
#

90% chance i take vaelgor here

stoic fog
#

Is someone willing to teach me Boomkin? I just dont want to be last in DPS in raid and doing tank damage in keys...

obsidian inlet
stoic fog
#

i've tried so many times to learn it

molten yoke
#

@stoic fog use correct build on wowhead, read the compendium link for rotation info, spam ur buttons esp in cooldown windows, its ok to mess up cuz u will eventually get it. Also read boss details so u know when u need to cast when moving. U got it G! GL

obsidian inlet
#

Is the Vaelgore stare the supreme mastery trinket?

lofty depot
obsidian inlet
#

Like super puzzle box?

stoic fog
#

okay Thank you i'll just start over again i guess

lofty depot
#

So better ones

dense steeple
digital berry
obsidian inlet
#

That thing is busted

lofty depot
dense steeple
#

thats a fully upgraded 289 heart of wind cim

lofty depot
dense steeple
#

against the hero vaelgor

lofty depot
digital berry
obsidian inlet
dense steeple
#

also you didnt answer my qwuestion

unkempt tree
#

Myth staff over crafted weapon?

zealous violet
#

I'm new to balance, is there a primary go to for info and learning? I see there is a Dreamgrove Compendium here in the resources but also wowhead and icy veins. Just not sure where I should start ๐Ÿคข I haven't touched my druid since legion and back then it was feral so I'm totally lost.

lofty depot
lofty depot
dense steeple
spice roost
#

i crafted gloves cause the mythic tier gloves are ass stats

dense steeple
#

thats what i mean, crafting gloves for big gains

#

cause big stat value

dense steeple
#

copy that

frank sail
#

Hi, is there anyone here that can help me out with balance rotation?

spice roost
#

@frank sailcheck the compendium read it and then ask any questions about that your confused about

lofty depot
obsidian fox
#

Are any of these worth? I feel like offhands are the best option but BiS for boomy are twohanded, no?

urban hollow
#

cursed vault brother, r i p

obsidian fox
#

rip I should take tokens then?

obsidian inlet
vital hound
nimble tangle
#

RIBBON

#

just do it

vital hound
#

normal

nimble tangle
#

Then sim it

vital hound
#

no

nimble tangle
#

Mythic heart vs normal ribbon

dull dust
frank sail
dull dust
#

theres 2 items named ribbon in that vault

lofty depot
vital hound
#

holy

lofty depot
#

"just blast" is what I do, then people why they aren't doing damage and I need to explain what blast means

#

Holy waste of time, need that weapon

normal geyser
#

kek Me trying to figure out what blast means right now (I am reading the compedium and hitting dummies rn)

frank sail
#

I will try go back to dummies and see what my damage is now since I changed some gear

lofty depot
#

Should reiterate that recording ur gameplay does help

vital hound
normal geyser
#

Are there any dummies I can use that won't get hit by my starfall or FoN? I am trying to gauge my ST damage the cleave dummies keep getting dotted up

red nymph
#

Dorn

dense steeple
#

holy moly

#

if you need hero track gear run ragnaros tw before they hotfix it lmao

lofty depot
#

Ur not looking at ur damage while trying to learn btw

#

?

#

Who needs hero gear

dense steeple
#

people who didnt run 500 keys ladst week

#

point is

lofty depot
#

Weak mind

dense steeple
#

giga undertuned

normal geyser
dense steeple
#

killed rag in 1 minute

rough marten
#

what a tragic vault

dense steeple
#

free hero track

zealous violet
#

Can you run logs on yourself while hitting a target dummy? I've never bothered to check. Just wondering if doing that while practicing rotation and then dumping it into wowanalyzer

lofty depot
#

Yes

vital hound
dense steeple
red nymph
dense steeple
#

so you can do the tw weekly in the raid or you can juoin a rag skip

vital hound
dense steeple
#

oh idk if the rest of the raid is easy

#

i would assume it is

#

rag has 7mil hp lmao

lofty depot
#

U could download an action tracking addon then stream

vital hound
#

yea its tw surely

obsidian inlet
lofty depot
#

Idk the thing

obsidian inlet
#

moon

#

kin

dense steeple
vital hound
dense steeple
vital hound
#

dbm

dull dust
#

banned

broken gazelle
#

Occlusion of Void shows BIS on wowhead but the trinket is simming higher by quite a bit. Should i grab the ring and grind better trinkets or take trinket? Sim is showing my Champion crucible out performs my hero Wakrapuku and Eye of the drowning void

frank sail
#

I tried 5 mins on a dummy, but ye, something is very off

lofty depot
lofty depot
frank sail
lofty depot
#

Make ur own group

obtuse jungle
#

what should i do here i m at lost especially with the stafff myth trach (haste mastery) i crafted my weapon 285) can anyone help me out here

zealous violet
#

You could also use a follower dungeon if you're just wanting to test things out.

hexed portal
#

I was curious about the Occlusion of Void showing as BIS - wouldn't the Occlusion with mastery be better?

lofty depot
#

And likely sim a sockey

obtuse jungle
#

wdym by sockey ?

lofty depot
#

U know like when u need to clean up.... Something and u need a sockey

A socket lol

hexed portal
# lofty depot What if u use both

Sure, but both aren't listed as BiS, so you'd not bet getting the set bonus either way. That means it'd be Void v Light and I don't understand why the high crit low haste one is better

obtuse jungle
#

the 2 others things left are the shouldter tier set and the soul cather Mythic

lofty depot
#

Where does it say u don't use both

hexed portal
lofty depot
#

Cute bis list

#

Silly list

hexed portal
#

Hence the question...

#

Given experience and performance, I assume Gamz knows the class better than I do. But if something looks wrong, it's natural to ask about it...unsure why that seems to have you tilted

vital hound
#

what if

#

bis didnt exist

meager storm
#

I am bis

#

bis is my last name

vital hound
#

i thought it was peta

meager storm
#

@vital hound what do u play nowadays still boomy or what

vital hound
#

ye

#

i quit

#

then we got buffed

#

and i came back

meager storm
obsidian fox
#

How expensive is it to craft the weapon? bis for boomy

chrome tundra
#

I'm simming crafted gloves or boots and crit/haste wins out over crit/mastery (albeit by a small amount)...is it worth listening to this or just go with crit/mastery?

hexed portal
lofty depot
loud kettle
#

Crit haste better for offspecs anyway

lofty depot
#

U can sim the difference if u want

meager storm
loud kettle
#

Ultimately the difference won't matter

chrome tundra
#

ooh gotcha, thanks yall

dawn surge
#

that u couldnt use

#

and forgo the opportunity for vaelgors

dawn surge
#

cant imagine that happening to someone frfr

hexed portal
dawn surge
#

tried to help someone get puzzle box last night

#

paid the price

#

gg

red nymph
#

tomorrows trading post is a banger

#

this month was ass

manic island
#

is locus better than gaze? sims much lower for me for some reason

digital berry
#

Show sim

manic island
#

8 mins was a little closer cause ramp up for locus

digital berry
#

For future reference donโ€™t gear compare just top gear it

manic island
#

yea i mean i dont have the items was just checking

digital berry
#

You can add them on top gear too

#

0.5% difference tbh isโ€ฆ.. not that meaningful

loud kettle
#

top gear is literally easier to add item combos yea

#

There's a reason gear compare is deprecated and hidden away

manic island
#

was just wondering why it was used in the bis sim if it sims 500dps worse

dawn surge
#

theres probably multiple fights that do actually go up to 8 mins in mythic later on

#

if not longer

manic island
#

yea i mean it sims worse on 8 minutes too

dawn surge
#

gaze also scales with haste because the int procs arent capped ive had like 20 stacks before during lust

#

idk why it simmed better for them on their early bis lists

#

but makes sense that gaze is better imo

manic island
#

ah well that makes more sense if the bis sim runs lower haste

#

which im pretty sure it does compared to my gear

split fox
#

Rotational question I'm having a tough time finding the answer to: how do you use your second incarn charge on the opener? Do you send it right after the first one finishes so it still benefits from potion/hero, or do you do one solar eclipse proc first and delay the second charge to line it up with Force of Nature coming off CD?

manic island
#

incarn with trees again

#

generally

#

squeeze two eclipses in between

#

is what i see people normally do

dawn surge
#

^unless theres some specific reason u dont wanna send incarn again on the next trees then i think u just send with next trees pretty much always

manic island
#

go to lorgs copy paste hit when they hit if u dont wanna think x))

dawn surge
#

lol

#

sitting on an eclipse charge is worse than delaying cds by 5 seconds

lusty echo
#

Is there a macro to cast innerv on a particular player without putting mouse on him ?

dawn surge
#

unless those 5 seconds mean u lose a cast

#

which it basically never does

dawn surge
#

if youre assigned to a particular person

rigid flame
#

Hmm. I have 266 of the set NPX rings and I am wondering is the set BiS at max ilvl or are better stated rings better? Asking because of my unlucky vault

lusty echo
dawn surge
dawn surge
fair mist
#

Looks like crafting two off piece items instead of a weapon gamble may have paid off even though itโ€™s just a 1h

dusty flicker
dawn surge
#

idk try it out, ive always just done it the other way i said earlier so i never tried anything else tbh

#

works fine so never fixed it

#

lol

rigid flame
nimble tangle
#

this is what I always want to show when ppl say bad vault

harsh herald
#

That's what you get for crafting a weapon

nimble tangle
#

ACTUALLY

red nymph
nimble tangle
#

I didnโ€™t craft anything

harsh herald
#

Oh nice

nimble tangle
harsh herald
#

I waited also just in case I got myth weapon this week

#

If not I was gonna craft for mythic raid

#

But I got a similar vault and took a weapon and now figuring out what to craft now

nimble tangle
#

But the price I paid was, no ring no trinket farmed from keys

#

Only heroic trinket I got was heart

lofty depot
nimble tangle
#

Thatโ€™s my bis for M+

lofty depot
#

Says who

#

Fuck them, close ur eyes

nimble tangle
#

Says we chino boomie

#

No raid no

#

final grade =A+

#

Class dismissed

red nymph
nimble tangle
#

yes as always

harsh herald
#

That's how it works on the chinese servers

lofty depot
#

A+ isnt S

dense steeple
#

arctic can i not sim gloves rn

lofty depot
#

Why not

harsh herald
#

$20 for a sick mount and you get to tell them that you got a bis item

dense steeple
#

it will not allow me to sim at 285

copper gate
#

can you slam an embel on gloves?

lofty depot
#

Go add the currency at the top prob

lofty depot
copper gate
#

๐Ÿค“

dense steeple
#

i have the currency

lofty depot
#

Show

vital hound
red nymph
vital hound
#

just max all

nimble tangle
dense steeple
lofty depot
#

Why doesn't that help

nimble tangle
#

Iโ€™m not a fan of our offpiece glove

#

Why no haste

lofty depot
#

Press the + button silly

#

U can craft it with haste if u want

vital hound
nimble tangle
#

I want to craft belt actually

lofty depot
#

Also yea u put it in with 233 ilvl

nimble tangle
#

Belt stats even worse

#

Big crit small mastery

lofty depot
#

Type 285 in the box silly

lofty depot
dull dust
#

Sim it then edit the raw input

nimble tangle
dull dust
nimble tangle
#

Yes always

wheat rivet
#

howdy yall, just wondering in an ideal world, which tier pice should we not have? Gloves?

dense steeple
dull dust
#

do it gooder

lofty depot
#

No u didnt

#

It says 233

dense steeple
#

next trouble shoot

vital hound
#

dont type

#

delete the text

#

click and select myth crest craft

dull dust
#

just click the box and click the one yea

dense steeple
#

i cliecked this, still 233, next troubleshoot

vital hound
#

delete character

#

reinstall windows

lofty depot
#

Click the number silly

dense steeple
#

i did

#

3 times

gaunt lantern
#

isn't that the wrong item? isnt it uh

dull dust
#

run sim

gaunt lantern
#

silvermoon something or other

lofty depot
#

285 5/6 one

dull dust
#

at 233

vital hound
#

refresh or something, its not syncing with the items

dense steeple
#

FUK