balance

[lucid olive]

then 20 weeks from now is 12.1 following that

[royal zenith]

Honestly

[pseudo merlin]

that's for sure going to be a 1 day RWF

before echo wakes up

[proven sail]

still cant find any recent vod from a m+ run on boomie

[lucid olive]

they also showed for like every patch of TWW that following their 8 week schedule is more important than the game working on patch release

[inland sleet]

I can try to send you a few of mine when i get home if you're interested. I timed +15

[proven sail]

would reaaally appreciate it

still struggling damagewise

[lucid olive]

there's tons of vods from the past few days of krona, canexx and goop

if you can't find them you can't be looking very hard

[inland sleet]

Ping me in private message if i forget

[lucid olive]

they all stream on twitch

[proven sail]

yeah someone said that, not sure where to look

oh will check

[proven sail]

ill PM if i dont find soon

[lucid olive]

they're like 13 ish hour streams every day from RWF and do a lot of keys in between splits

[proven sail]

yeah i see found it

big thanks, i was looking on yt:/

anyone knows what UI setting/addon etc is this?

[lucid olive]

ask in his stream when he's online

or his discord if he has one linked

or type !ui in his chat and see if he has a command for it

[proven sail]

oh ok

[copper gate]

Method is going to win

[proven sail]

i really need to set up my logs i have no clue what im doing wrong to be this mid

because during raids im doing pretty well

maybe ill play a bit of m+ with keeper today

[lofty depot]

Both have the ability to do well, keeper more bursty, but also more reliant on cds

[eager raft]

@pseudo merlin turns out my hunch was right

Triggering way less cores than it should be

[royal zenith]

will that finally fix your movement?

[lucid olive]

no, those aren't destro changes

[pseudo merlin]

damn

so from this point on you will never mess up movement again right

[eager raft]

It actually would

Well no it’s not fixed

[royal zenith]

[eager raft]

But if it got fixed

It would solve my movement issues

[royal zenith]

did you kill dragons yet @lucid olive

[eager raft]

5-10x more insta cast globals

Would solve any movement issue

[lucid olive]

nah we had 1 hour on it last night

had a 33% best tho

dies 2nite

[pseudo merlin]

any tips?

[royal zenith]

sounds good enough

[pseudo merlin]

we 1 shoty saladbar tonight then go doragon

[inland sleet]

Do you still need anything ?

[lucid olive]

i only have 1 tip based on our prog so far

don't update your bios

[pseudo merlin]

solid

who the fuck ever updates bios btw

[lucid olive]

https://x.com/Luckyone961/status/2038478955078889605

Luckyone (@Luckyone961)

Turns out I’m one of the unlucky people whose 9950x3d / 9800x3d CPU was killed by the ASRock BIOS update from February. There have been lots of reports about this over the past two weeks. My PC hasn’t booted since Saturday, and I’ve already ordered a replacement.

X · Mar 30, 2026, 4:50 AM

[pseudo merlin]

thats a literal dont change if it aint broke thing

[lucid olive]

yeah thats what i said

[pseudo merlin]

also

[lucid olive]

you update when you buy mobo

[pseudo merlin]

wasnt asrock killing 9800x3ds like 2 years ago

[lucid olive]

then just run that shit natty

[pseudo merlin]

and then they "fixed" it

[royal zenith]

updating bios during prog

smh

[pseudo merlin]

and people immediately just went "oh yeah lets trust"

[lucid olive]

borrowed the fix from the 13 series intel cpus that kept exploding

[pseudo merlin]

why did lucky update bios

[normal pilot]

smh buying an asrock mb

[proven sail]

yeah sure, i wouldnt mind

[pseudo merlin]

Asrock? More like ASSrock

[dim root]

taichi is such a good board

hasn't fried my 9950x3d yet...crossing fingers

[royal zenith]

@dim root

[round field]

Why are we updating our bios randomly

What a dingus

[dim root]

allo frend

[tired field]

Hey! I’m thinking about giving Balance Druid another shot haven’t played it since Shadowlands so I was wondering how it feels these days
I usually main Fire Mage I like specs that are pretty mobile, dynamic, not too hard on paper but with a lot of min-max potential, something engaging to play ?
How's boomie looking in Midnight? Do you think it could fit that kind of playstyle?

[leaden birch]

whenever someone suggests someone to be inv'd to the group and I'm lead, the shit never pops up

is there a setting doing this or hwat

[thorn nebula]

You guys just don’t understand the ✨ vision ✨

[lucid olive]

guy ctrl+fd his name

[pallid bay]

[naive hatch]

In m+ what are the thoughts on starweaver vs rattle the stars?

[lofty depot]

Boomkin hasn't been this mobile / dynamic in a while. But that's perspective of u knowing how to play with procs and asp

[lofty depot]

Not pushing yet so playing what's more fun

[thorn nebula]

To be fair I was looking for an old conversation - I didn’t expect to see anything recent lmfao 😂

[digital berry]

week 1 talking bout pushing m+

[thorn nebula]

Two things though:

1. I’m pretty sure I got a cosmos proc there hence the star surge into the eclipse - not sure what fight specifically was being analyzed but I’m guessing dragons?
2. I prefer eclipse opener into CDs especially on that fight. I feel like my cd lineup with the adds was more fluid overall 🤷🏻

It did suck not having any blood DKs for dragons though

[pallid bay]

if you got a cosmos proc you should have used it in eclipse

2. its not that deep, just random bob looking at some log asking why player does x or y

[thorn nebula]

Yeah diff fight anyway was looking back on dragons and my opener was diff.
Probably just a botched opener still figuring stuff out

My saladar kill was pretty tragically awful

[pallid bay]

[thorn nebula]

How are you guys feeling about boomkin so far in the tier

[royal zenith]

gameplay is decent

damage too

but

still same issues as ever in regards to damage pattern

[thorn nebula]

I wish eclipse was off the GCD.
I feel like it has a problem where it doesn’t queue properly and I have to mash the key

[royal zenith]

and juggling cd's is kinda meh

[lofty depot]

Skill issue

[thorn nebula]

Like i press the eclipse and then expect it to get queued and star surge but the eclipse doesn’t go off

[lofty depot]

Maybe u pressed it too long ago

Queue it better

[thorn nebula]

That’s really not it - it’s hard to describe but it just feels like there’s a latency to it that I don’t have with any other abilities or cds

At least we’re not F tier this raid

[royal zenith]

There's been some posts about that

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1s0rhpb/do_your_gcds_feel_sluggish_is_there_a_universal/

if it's placebo or not

who knows

[thorn nebula]

Yeah I mean idk why arctic being weird about it. I know how to play the game and I know when my ability isn’t functioning the way I expect

[royal zenith]

he's always like that wdym

[thorn nebula]

😂

[lofty depot]

Taking what I said personal

Tragic really

[royal zenith]

are you not a person then??

noted!

[lofty depot]

No

[lucid olive]

yeah its the 0.5s GCD making it feel weird

[lofty depot]

Inhuman

[lucid olive]

since you're used to every other GCD being 1.5s

[thorn nebula]

Isn’t the 0.5 GCD AFTER the cast though?

[lucid olive]

but i think having it off GCD would be worse

[royal zenith]

I have just started treating it as a gcd to move

[thorn nebula]

I’m talking about the cast itself - like eclipse genuinely doesn’t go off sometimes unless you mash the key

[lucid olive]

mostly cause i don't trust blizzard to make off gcd eclipse not be riddled with spellqueue bugs

[thorn nebula]

The 1.5 GCD overall does feel really weird though

[royal zenith]

think it would be more awkward if it's off the gcd

[whole hornet]

do you guys starfall or starsurge on p1 hc crown

[royal zenith]

depends on the vibes

[lofty depot]

Starfall prob

[whole hornet]

i was pressing starfall mostly but it felt slightly unethical

[royal zenith]

cause it is

[lofty depot]

Get over it

[royal zenith]

you're killing mobs that need to leave a debuff on the adds

but just stand near one

[lucid olive]

only unethical if the mobs die away from the big adds

[lofty depot]

Tell the other people that can control their aoe to stop

Those are in my starfall radius, is not my fault. Mmhm mmhm

[lucid olive]

stand between the big add you're killing and the next big add you're gonna kill and if you rip aggro on a smallie you just run it into one of the big adds so the tank can take over

[thorn nebula]

Use this macro:

#showtooltip Starfall
/cast Starsurge

Hope this helps

[royal zenith]

[thorn nebula]

😜

[lofty depot]

Less damage macro

R1 clecia would never

[royal zenith]

only getting gear matters first few weeks man

quick in and out

[lofty depot]

That's what I'm saying

Get ur mental illness m+ done

Get gear, slam raid

[teal sphinx]

how many keys have you run this week?

[lofty depot]

67 main, 4 alt

Maybe 1 on devdh we'll see

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-gif-12587352171248068863

[thorn nebula]

Damn that’s a lotta M+

[lofty depot]

[teal sphinx]

BROTHER

go the fuck

outside

holy shit

[rich sleet]

is there a way to show stellar amplification on CDM? like our dots to track it?

[lofty depot]

Last tier was 72

This tier I got lucky

[true viper]

67

[meager storm]

only 67 ggs fell off

[royal zenith]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HEGNdqebQAAUctf.mp4

[thorn nebula]

I feel like I need to go touch grass too. We last minute decided we wanted to try to kill vanguard this week so I had to level and gear a hunter on Saturday.
Showed up in raid with <12 hours of /played time for Vanguard on mythic 😂😂

[lofty depot]

Might push it to 69 for a better meme, idk

[lofty depot]

That's a seek help moment for ur raid leader

[thorn nebula]

Honestly seek help from myself

I coulda just gotten sat on it and let them run a DK or something

Idk we’ll see if we kill it tonight - prog last night was actually pretty good

[lofty depot]

Fun how boomkin has been good at 1 council fight in recent memory

Paladins actually ass

[thorn nebula]

Yeah really weird tbh

[fickle grail]

i stopped at 50 on main

[thorn nebula]

We were so good in vault of incarnates on that single council fight - meh on everything else

[lofty depot]

Need mass stix adds to slam. And devdh still does more

[fickle grail]

stopped on friday

[round field]

https://tenor.com/view/job-application-gif-8903702775039834655

[lofty depot]

Nah we were better at council of dream

Primal council we weren't that good at

[meager storm]

ye amirdrassil was good

[fickle grail]

ele shaman was peak on primal councol

[lofty depot]

Took time off

[thorn nebula]

We were good on everything except last 2 bosses for Amirdrassil

[lofty depot]

Have job, got paid to play wow for 2 days

Locken

[thorn nebula]

So basically everything that didn’t matter lol

[coral shell]

is there a way to track the number of M+ done other than counting them one by one?

[thorn nebula]

And we weren’t even great - we were “good”

[lucid olive]

its mental illness

[round field]

[lofty depot]

Wow audit, raider.io

[lucid olive]

theyre both the same thing

wowaudit uses raiderio api

[lofty depot]

Yes, but maybe he doesn't like opening wowaudit

[lucid olive]

yeah why would he when raiderio is the better answer to his question

[lofty depot]

Both give same answer

Gave both as answer

[coral shell]

I was wondering if there was a way to track automatically the number of M+ completed per guildy per week

[boreal brook]

if you have AlterEgo it keeps track

[lofty depot]

Well then wowaudit does that lol

Just open the spreadsheet / make a copy

[lofty depot]

U should be able to but I'd have to look thru cdm to find it if possible. it's not really a thing that needs to be tracked on 1 unit but rather 2 when ur song target swapping for that. Which sucks that boss frames doesn't allow us to black list many of them

[rich sleet]

im trying to find a way around it for dragons specially

[lofty depot]

Would just show debuffs on boss frames and try to play around it

The difference in target swapping vs not is only 1%

And if ur playing worse than number isn't likely an increase

[rich sleet]

ah ok i thought it would be bigger honestly

fair fair

thankyou!

[rich sleet]

surely the case for me 😄 i guess i ll stick to proper gameplay instead of that 1%

still kinda new to boomie

[lofty depot]

Yea u just sit surging the boss ur assigned to

Maybe they'll fix the blacklisting

[fleet furnace]

The mismatch of FoN and FoE no matter what you take is obnoxious.

I almost want to drop CotD to make it stop.

[dull dust]

aye yo im orange

[rare shoal]

You fucked up

You important now

[dull dust]

[torn iron]

Hey guys, i'm doing around 80k overall with Elune on M+, while my mates do 100k with multiple other classes. I have plenty of experience with balance from 5 years playing with it but right now I fell like I try to squeeze every ounce of dps just to fall short on every key. Is anyone feeling undertuned as well? Maybe it's a gear thing, or getting used to lame eclipse cd rotation

It's sad to push every button on big pulls and do 200k damage, while other classes burst 400k+

[vague jetty]

what talents to run at +10 dungeons?

[mighty mica]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/197928486030147585/1105528634283929790/attachment.gif

[dull dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dog-scared-driving-speed-gif-17175923473683955109

[mighty mica]

alright

[lofty depot]

@craggy sonnet Him too

Chancel got colored name in druid before mage

[unreal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/hola-gif-14542231539044625289

[mossy scarab]

Talents? Do you log?

[tacit latch]

hey new here, how u change to use solar eclipse? i was perma in lunar eclipse button

[exotic perch]

Lunar Calling

(its an elunes chosen talent)

[tacit latch]

ohhh i see

ty!

[dull dust]

[lofty depot]

I mean could be gear

U could be playing wrong while thinking 5 years of experience means u should be doing damage

Post a log

[dense steeple]

youre not allowed to spread misinformation anymore

[dull dust]

no promises

[gloomy spruce]

What button do i press 17th in my opener assuming 6 target spread cleave 20 yards away

[dull dust]

starfall sometimes

[royal zenith]

orange chancel??

:barf:

[gloomy spruce]

I once saw chancel do some cool things, i trust him

[normal pilot]

you have to spread misinfo now to meet your shitpost quota otherwise you'll lose your shiny new orange

[dull dust]

shitposting is like breathing to me

I got this

[formal crest]

[royal zenith]

no u

[gentle patio]

timers dissapearing from dots on blizzard nameplates still happening

[soft dragon]

on dragons mythic i see people playing active shrooms, u only use it on orb spawns right or

[lofty depot]

Or if u would overcap charges

[soft dragon]

even in incarn?

[lofty depot]

It's just another wrath dawg

Use it as such

[soft dragon]

okok yea idk

never used that thing

[craggy sonnet]

Feel like he must have done it in record time

[dull dust]

100 parse

[craggy sonnet]

I think so

[dull dust]

I got pi

[craggy sonnet]

Someone put all the debuffs on boss thyme

[pseudo merlin]

why is chancel orange

can we t alk about this

[dull dust]

cuz im cute

[pseudo merlin]

and clankz

I've seen it all

[dull dust]

[craggy sonnet]

Who gave it to you?

If it's multiple folks your log is invalidated I fear

[dull dust]

it was arctic gamz

yeah log is cooked

[torn iron]

I'm using the talent build that's listed on wowhead

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/balance/elunes-chosen/EASEAQFCEkVFVZFUkUUAQCBENVRRVEVJGIRVUdDAQAFFVVVUBR

[hollow bobcat]

should i be slamming all cds as they show up for chimaerus

or is it worth waiting for add phase

[torn iron]

I don't log yet, but will log a few dgs later today to analyze

The thing may be I'm still too focused on dotting a lot before I start hammering starfires

[dense steeple]

Add phase all that matters

If first group hold, if second can send 1 charge

[wicked shuttle]

@dull dust @craggy sonnet pog

[dull dust]

[craggy sonnet]

[wintry valve]

Should we be stacking incarn and normal eclipse?

[lucid olive]

clankz orange

resto channel malding

[lofty depot]

They don't stack, u can however override eclipse with incarn in certain situations

[delicate perch]

They’re just giving it away at this point

[delicate perch]

Nvm I approve, gz @craggy sonnet

[pseudo merlin]

real

The white names are the real ones

[lofty depot]

Real

[pseudo merlin]

me, people, respectable, CSH

sakura

deux (jlol jk)

[lucid olive]

@cursive mirage white name btw

[cursive mirage]

🙁

[lofty depot]

He doesn't do anything but type on the forum.

He should be white name

[cursive mirage]

wtf

[delicate perch]

But he actively allows @teal sphinx to be in his guild :/

[cursive mirage]

That probably deserves to make me grey name

[delicate perch]

Oce players were perma banned for less

[royal zenith]

this does mean you need to be nicer @craggy sonnet

[delicate perch]

[cursive mirage]

Wait how tf did clankz get orange? What is this tomfoolery

[royal zenith]

[cursive mirage]

I’m rioting

[dull dust]

[royal zenith]

he did more APL work in 4 weeks than you did in a lifetime

thoughts folty??

[cursive mirage]

Hmmm but how many hours of yapping about forum posts has he done?

[royal zenith]

[cursive mirage]

[dull dust]

real

[royal zenith]

we should purge some resto oranges

and have boomkins take over

maystine reloe who?

[lofty depot]

Says who

[dull dust]

yall getting infiltrated by a mage its already jover for u

[royal zenith]

bro can't read sarcasm

[cursive mirage]

One could argue that the attempt at syncing our CDs up was a direct result of our yapping feedback….lets just ignore that the changes didn’t work and maybe it’s worse now than before

[royal zenith]

TRAGIC!!

[delicate perch]

Bro can’t read tbh

[royal zenith]

you don't know what I've been doing in my spare time

[lofty depot]

Porom didnt want u, so we stole

[cursive mirage]

I don’t want to know…

[royal zenith]

unless... ?

[lofty depot]

Arcane in shambles anyway

[dull dust]

real

[lofty depot]

Floorpov gap bigger than boomkin ever was

[dull dust]

can we get a boomkin emote like this

[exotic perch]

i hear from Delt that Porom keeps posting to twitter about arcane

the tc discord has all the moonka

[dull dust]

[dense steeple]

Half the devourers in dh disc are just moonkin refugees

We can take one mage

[glacial steeple]

Do we have to?

[wild dune]

bad time to be a moonkin refugee

[glacial steeple]

Because we stunting on the haters

And casting starfire with our solar eclipse

[craggy sonnet]

I'm sure they miss me

[vital hound]

looks fun as fuck tho

[lofty depot]

Dev look fun as fuck

That's what my class used to feel like

[dull dust]

it does some crazy uncapped damage

too bad a slight breeze kills u

[vital hound]

feels like feral kinda the same idk

i did an AA

and was doing like 800k first pull

[dull dust]

seen a clip of arcane going to 2m

[vital hound]

think i will level evoker next

[vital hound]

why the fuck

[craggy sonnet]

taking arctic as my role model, what can go wrong

[vital hound]

are you orange

[dull dust]

cuz im cute

[vital hound]

bro writes two bad apl lines

gets a colour

[dull dust]

its the effort that counts ok

[vital hound]

sure thing claude

i wonder what new opus thinks of apl

[lofty depot]

No devdh silly

[craggy sonnet]

me? no way are you singling me out when chancel got it

[vital hound]

o

nah fuck that

hasnt clankz had it for ages

[craggy sonnet]

naah, im just talking too much in here

[vital hound]

gg

ive been big on clankz stonks long term

[lofty depot]

So it's ur fault

Smh

[vital hound]

[craggy sonnet]

that was the first pi

big campaigning .. not funded tho, i swear

[vital hound]

[glacial steeple]

We wanted to install one of the people

[dense steeple]

Its my fault we have arctic

Id trade him for a corn chip any day of the week now

[dull dust]

same

[glacial steeple]

Arctic gives me information in a way that helps me because he reminds me of a teacher who called me an idiot

[dense steeple]

My teachers told me I was a creature

[vital hound]

this was the latest feedback i got from him

[glacial steeple]

That's why you play druid bby

[glacial steeple]

Did you read the pin?

[vital hound]

whats a pin

[dense steeple]

Been a druid since 2006, was called a creature by a teacher first time in 2000

[copper gate]

any reason why balance druid has no data on bloodmallet

[dense steeple]

Because balance doesn't support bloodmallet

[digital berry]

bloodmallet is a useless ass website

[glacial steeple]

Simming isn't super hard, I just got the SimCraft addon and throw it on Raidbots

[digital berry]

People try too damn hard with their sims and cook up some nasty weird stuff, often times it's just not that deep

[shadow willow]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-midnight-falls-buffed-before-race-to-world-first-continues-381030?utm_source=discord-webhook

ahahaha

[glacial steeple]

Those are very large buffs to P1

[lucid olive]

I see these as Moonkin buffs

[cursive mirage]

True! The mage has tricked me…

[craggy sonnet]

ahh, so we got abilities recycled as talents

[digital berry]

blizzard has like 20 icons and 30 names they just reuse

[lucid olive]

cool icon tho

coolest icon in our talent page

[cursive mirage]

Can’t wait for this boss to be nuked from orbit after RWF is over so that us mere mortals without splits don’t get farmed

[worthy nimbus]

boys, which buff to grab in AA m+

[digital berry]

mastery

[worthy nimbus]

playing elunes chosen

okey doke ty

[digital berry]

thats what i get at least

[teal sphinx]

Thats a lie, OCE players were banned because they cant help but use redacted language.

[glacial steeple]

They type upside down and it's upsetting

[delicate perch]

Get with the times old man

[delicate perch]

Aren’t you like 200ilvl

[copper gate]

you cant just ask a man what his ilvl is

[delicate perch]

[spice roost]

@lucid olivewhat ya crafting tomarrow

[lucid olive]

depends what i get in vault

probably gloves

[spice roost]

kk

thats what i was thinking cause off piece

[lofty depot]

ironically i was going to school to be a teacher

[lofty depot]

haste so i dont have to cast ape long starfire

mmhm mmhm

[teal sphinx]

Wouldn't it be the other way around?? Old men use the redacted language

[glacial steeple]

Just a different generation

[cursive mirage]

Haste normally cause the mastery buff from there hits the DR while haste buff doesn’t

But it’s doesn’t matter all that much for most people

[fossil hemlock]

The haste is also multiplicative, which I don't think any of the others are? So tiny bit more stat total comparatively

[delicate perch]

ya unless they changed it, haste good

[pseudo merlin]

I was watching method pull a boss, looking at the dudes FPS

STarted the pull at 140

3 seconds into the pull 100

3 seconds later 70

3 seconds later and the rest of the fight 40

[delicate perch]

[pseudo merlin]

Can they fix this game or

[delicate perch]

rwf poor

[pseudo merlin]

I have the same

I'm literally on a 9800x3d

hello

do I upgrade to NASA pc or

[delicate perch]

yes

[pseudo merlin]

So I can play cartoon game

[delicate perch]

are you a gamer or not

[pseudo merlin]

😔 ✌️

[delicate perch]

I think I literally have my graphics set to like 2

[royal zenith]

did you kill dragons ravec

[delicate perch]

game looks like ass no matter what

[pseudo merlin]

almost

[delicate perch]

did you deux

[royal zenith]

1.6% for us

[pseudo merlin]

wow

[royal zenith]

💀

[delicate perch]

bozo

[pseudo merlin]

ok more like 60% for us

[delicate perch]

overtime ttonight login

[royal zenith]

nah fuck that

[pseudo merlin]

but we kinda trolled saladbar

we only had 1 hour on dragons

gotta figure out intermission breath movements

[delicate perch]

am I getting gaze in vault @royal zenith

[royal zenith]

I do think bamkin is pretty trash on dragon boss

[pseudo merlin]

think we're going to gateway the priests

[royal zenith]

yes

[delicate perch]

[royal zenith]

good thing we have a knock

out of 4 classes in the game

[pseudo merlin]

but like

After dragons what even happens

how long until normal guilds can prog paladins

or kill paladins rather

I guess just go mythic bird

?

[delicate perch]

when their healers level monks

[pseudo merlin]

yeah

After dragons its legit duo bird

duopenotti

[delicate perch]

rekill doggo for trinket

[pseudo merlin]

we had one this week

[royal zenith]

I think we'll get another pretty massive spike in dps/hps next reset

[pseudo merlin]

very poggo

[royal zenith]

so paladins will be doable

[pseudo merlin]

yeah first mythic vaults huge

[royal zenith]

and supposedly you can literally just 6 heal that boss

and kill it

cause enrage is at like 8 min

[pseudo merlin]

thats a good point

the only thing I dislike about dragons is voidman dh

[royal zenith]

(guilds wont do that and will just reroll to stack classes and copy rwf)

voidman dh kinda owns that fight

I should've actually rerolled

[pseudo merlin]

yes

Details is just everyone

and then voidman 2x everyone

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

i thought i was going crazy

But I double checked it now in LFR

Dread breaths are literally happening without being tracked

???????

[royal zenith]

as in not existing on the timeline or?

wdym

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[maiden pasture]

Yes the boss timers for the dragons are horrible and you cannot rely on them

[smoky sage]

the one thing you had hoped not to happen anymore now that those timers are default by blizzard buuuut well here we are

[agile orchid]

why is my sim using back to back incarns?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nLAkchDhMr4q9TZFi2WFG3

[dull dust]

[agile orchid]

thats what i said

[warped bolt]

Weird, maybe because of lust

[lofty depot]

fix this then try it again

[agile orchid]

i mean at least they tell me xD

[lofty depot]

idk why its like that tho

[lucid olive]

what makes you think that

[dull dust]

I see why

[warped bolt]

Because that’s the only thing I can think of

[dull dust]

the check for ca down is behind the wrong |

[agile orchid]

lust is out

[warped bolt]

I see, strange

[lucid olive]

not really

[dull dust]

does latest fix it

resend latest and link

[dull dust]

be less poor

[lucid olive]

click here to open html report

navigate down to profile

here is the APL

if something is being sent like that

it's because of the APL

[agile orchid]

sugar mommy?

[lucid olive]

I don't think any APL mentions lust almost ever

[warped bolt]

I see

[agile orchid]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mpMTcKEcRZDKU5vXcRYtpw

fixed

[lucid olive]

@dull dust this should probably moonfire

[dull dust]

latest fixes it but the line is still wrong

[dull dust]

did u upload the fixes

I sent yesterday

[lucid olive]

probably not

do you have it on hand

[dull dust]

its on there

[agile orchid]

feral respecs once to boomie and finds 2 mistakes

[dull dust]

sec

[agile orchid]

do i get a badge of honor or sth?

[dull dust]

might get orange

[agile orchid]

no no no dont do that then i gotta reroll back to druid again

[lucid olive]

having your sim set to weekly was the mistake

should never do that

[delicate perch]

[dull dust]

nah they ca line is wrong

[dull dust]

thats on me

[lofty depot]

u use latest unless told otherwise

[agile orchid]

xD

yes chef

[fair pasture]

i shamelessly stole gamz ui, was doing some LFR and my fps went to crap, my pc is kinda old now but should be fine i feel like, is there somewhere i can see the performance of diff ui elements

ok nvm its in addons menu

[agile orchid]

i just wanted to find out what boomies pi gain is

now all of this

[delicate perch]

they gain 1 billion dps

pi them

[agile orchid]

nah i gotta downplay it. cause im warlock now and we discuss who gets it for the raid

[lucid olive]

PI on moonkin is bad

[fiery kindle]

👀

[lucid olive]

also using PI charts from random 5 min 1 target sims don't show the full picture

[fair mist]

Any quick heroic crown of cosmos tips anyone would be willing to share?

[dull dust]

dont die to blobs

[lucid olive]

kill boss before it kills you

[agile orchid]

but i feel like the sim is not optimzied to play around pi.

Cause with my understanding of the spec (not thaat much)
you could time your cds to not loose usages BUT ALSO always use cds every 2 min with pi.

Sim def doesnt do that

[fiery kindle]

thx for @lofty depot , he teach me how to padding

xDD

[lucid olive]

why tf would you optimize for PI

[dull dust]

arctic unethical

[lofty depot]

mmmhm mmhjm

[agile orchid]

to do more dmg?

[fiery kindle]

ssssshh

[lucid olive]

ah yes

we're number padding the APL again

[dull dust]

soon

[lucid olive]

need to climb the spreadsheets that nobody should be reading anyway

[copper gate]

Are we getting buffed today or is it the next tuning pass I was told it’s in the works by an unverified source

[lucid olive]

make dungeonroute sim

[dull dust]

it works

[lucid olive]

never getting buffed

[agile orchid]

no i was thinking gameplay wise.

[dull dust]

I found 8% route dps last night

[copper gate]

[agile orchid]

am i that wrong?

[dull dust]

and deleted it by accedent

[lucid olive]

how would you think you make the sim play around PI

[dull dust]

[lofty depot]

why do u need a buff

[dull dust]

doesnt it already play around pi

[agile orchid]

cant you time cds on the 2 min mark?

[dull dust]

it just has 2m cds

[lucid olive]

it uses at 2 minute mark

[dull dust]

u dont even need todo anything special

[agile orchid]

it uses incarn at 7 seconds and then at 1:50min so no

[lucid olive]

actions+=/invoke_external_buff,name=power_infusion,if=buff.ca_inc.up

this is the condition it uses PI on

[lucid olive]

unfortunate

[dull dust]

get clankz on it

[lucid olive]

tell your priest to hold PI

[dull dust]

@craggy sonnet put pi in the variable

[lucid olive]

use PI 10 sec on pull timer and on 1:50

trust

[dull dust]

[craggy sonnet]

whatup?

[lucid olive]

this guy wants power infusion clankz

[dull dust]

need to optimize pi

[lucid olive]

rig the sim so he gets it

chop chop

[lofty depot]

do that, then have gastank lower his characters sim damage

[craggy sonnet]

whats wrong with how it does pi now?

[lucid olive]

it sends CDs when PI isn't available

[agile orchid]

i mean i put the pi timer at 8/128/248 maybe sth else works better

[lucid olive]

should just remove the condition and let PI be superman

[agile orchid]

but since first gcd after incarn is at 9secs i guessed it was fine

[craggy sonnet]

uhh, shouldnt the current pi line work with normal 1min intervals?

[dull dust]

pi probably sims better if u unspec control

[craggy sonnet]

(i guess it might not if there is no foe to anchor stuff)

[agile orchid]

i dont know what that means

[dull dust]

in your hero tree kotg

[agile orchid]

?

ah

[dull dust]

control of the dream

yes

spec other Sim pi

[craggy sonnet]

idek how pi works out of the box

[lucid olive]

PI sims better if you vary_combat_length=0 and druid.initial_orbit_breaker_stacks=26

trust

[dull dust]

pi works better on a differnt class

[lucid olive]

PI sims worse if you do druid.no_cds=1

[craggy sonnet]

whats the variable for pi?

[agile orchid]

i checked this now is that better then putting them in custom apl?

i need to get my 5bucks down asap

[lucid olive]

youre prob better off doing the custom timers you were doing

[craggy sonnet]

surely you arent the right pi target

[agile orchid]

i just sim both BUT i gotta waith 200 spots

[craggy sonnet]

so why we even trying

[lucid olive]

or maybe not who knows, difference might be nonexistent too

[agile orchid]

im not trying to get it as balance

im trying so my balance druid in the raid doesnt get it and i get it 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

huh

[lucid olive]

lower world ranks are very serious about their PI assignments

[agile orchid]

but im an honest man thats trying to the best for the guild

[lucid olive]

just slam it on the player with the biggest schlong

nothing else matters

[lucid olive]

open force of nature

crazy you stopped typing mid sentence

are you a backspace spammer or a ctrl+a backspace enjoyer

[dull dust]

I just hit enter anyway

[agile orchid]

depends on how angry i am

[agile orchid]

damn i rly dont know balance stuff

[dull dust]

did the control thing make ur pi pp gooder

[agile orchid]

this just makes nooo sense to me
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7NP4fpWX6Y8i3uGoWThXMy
^ pi check
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oJoniHSkBh6bmSjk5LDiJX
^my timer

this cant be right

[lucid olive]

i told you you were better off doing the custom timers

[dull dust]

still using weekly

[lucid olive]

also putting PI in the APL should not be a priority at all

also that

[agile orchid]

no im not

[delicate perch]

are feral druids always like this

[lucid olive]

sure about that?

[lofty depot]

MMHM

mmhmm

[lucid olive]

yeah you did two sims

[agile orchid]

ah

[lucid olive]

on different versions

[agile orchid]

omgelul

im tired

[delicate perch]

highest IQ feral

[agile orchid]

its 01:00 for me

[delicate perch]

login

[agile orchid]

https://giphy.com/gifs/disneypixar-disney-pixar-11tTNkNy1SdXGg

[lofty depot]

why are we PI-ing a druid that hasnt crafted weapon

[delicate perch]

70k is also wild why are you simming your rat character to check your guild boomkins

[lofty depot]

doing 70k dps

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

70k dps was week 1 dam

can we locken

[agile orchid]

im considering what i will play xD i just came back to the game ffs

and i was feral

[lucid olive]

how does that work

are u 3 minutes ahead perma or

[agile orchid]

ye

[delicate perch]

he's a known liar

[agile orchid]

time travel

[lucid olive]

nice

[lucid olive]

yeah his real name is figures

but he tells people its shapes

[agile orchid]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oJoniHSkBh6bmSjk5LDiJX
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kHsw5zwgtUMC5MFskmauWL

ye ok this checks

sry

[delicate perch]

whys it start with 7

[lofty depot]

why does that check

[agile orchid]

it still sucks hard on boomie

[lofty depot]

theyre the same numby and 1 has pi

and the one with pi is lower

[agile orchid]

both have pi

[dull dust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k6BoegxrcPNT6vLEMteZnD

[delicate perch]

because you panic when you get pi

and missplay enough to make it not give any dps

[dull dust]

why's mine bigger

get rekt

[agile orchid]

you gotta open your eyes

[lofty depot]

were adding pi in apl lines and not with hte check box

then the other has it in the check box

[agile orchid]

yes

[lofty depot]

brainiac

[agile orchid]

thats what i said i will do

[dull dust]

gamz its using moon of fire now

[agile orchid]

cause we were talking about about is pi in sims for boomie optimized

[agile orchid]

i suck i guess

🙁

[dull dust]

ily

[lucid olive]

sloptimized

[fiery kindle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DGm1ZrYdAVnTLWxf?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=20&view=timeline
no pad btw

[lucid olive]

why are we in damage done timeline

[lucid olive]

we being elitist now?

wr 499 chimaerus hall of famer

[agile orchid]

ey

i just came back to the game

https://giphy.com/gifs/blackish-anthony-anderson-dre-johnson-d2lcHJTG5Tscg

[agile orchid]

wasnt even on the team xD

[delicate perch]

how can you be putting this much effort into scamming pi on the bench

[fiery kindle]

I'm still trying to learn the opening rotation, that's why I sent it.

[delicate perch]

that's insane

[agile orchid]

im NOT scamming anything

[lucid olive]

open cast timeline instead, much easier to see

[agile orchid]

my heal said "hey shapes you are kinda a pi nerd, could you please check for me who should get pi on salhadaar? You arent good for anything but at least that is what you maybe could do you little noob"

so i said ok

and now i am here

getting roasted by someone with a green name

[normal pilot]

you PI the person who's log you want to invalidate

[agile orchid]

You need 2 priests for that

Or are you going the „pi logs don’t matter“ route?

Cause then you should just give your Pi every 2 mins to someone else 😂

[rough flax]

Whoever pays you the most

[agile orchid]

Maybe i should play shadow priest and give the allready pi‘d players my pi.

[normal pilot]

oh does it not invalidate just single pi

unfortunate

you just gotta unionize with other priests and threaten to force PI and invalidate their logs unless thye pay up

[agile orchid]

No you need to get more then 1 pi for every 2 mins of boss fight.

[dull dust]

have 3 preists

and u can I validate 2 logs

[agile orchid]

We have 4 in our guild

LETS GO

[lucid olive]

can technically get more

this log wasnt invalidated

last one was 2 seconds extra

[dull dust]

im gunna ping Mr wcl about thia

who's log was it

[lucid olive]

its my highest alleria heroic one

go look if u want

[delicate perch]

hackerman

[dull dust]

so if I get it invalidated r u gunna be mad or impressed

[obsidian fjord]

u waste ur own time so freely

[lucid olive]

i don't care

not asked for PI, they just slam it for fun in heroic splits

[dull dust]

lame

get mad gamz

hulk smash

[delicate perch]

wowhead guide writer cheating in heroic raid

[dull dust]

wdym

[cloud citrus]

why does chancel have a orange name

[delicate perch]

why not

[cloud citrus]

arcane pulse enjoyer!

[lucid olive]

just wait until you see clankz..

[dull dust]

I rolled a nat 20 in persuasion

[agile orchid]

Damn do you know how it exactly works?

[delicate perch]

admin clankz when

[agile orchid]

Or just random bug?

[lucid olive]

no

there are probably a billion things in the world i care more about

its very far down the list..

[agile orchid]

I mean you seem like a distinguished gentleman

So maybe you just knew

[loud kettle]

you can have as many pi's as possible from 1 priest within the kill time

[dull dust]

Idk how u care about that much

I barely care enough to get outa bed

[loud kettle]

this is over 9 min log so you can have 5 pis

[agile orchid]

Im just someone that likes to find stuff out. And I like haste

[lucid olive]

nice

[obsidian fjord]

find out why kids love cinnamon toast crunch man

[agile orchid]

Sugar

[obsidian fjord]

who the fuck cares what the logic is about sneaking 1/5th of an additional PI

[dull dust]

so ur saying he is missing free dam

[obsidian fjord]

if u are taking more than 1 PI u are a creature of the night

[dull dust]

from 19seconds of pi

[lucid olive]

yeah i got inted by holyfemboy

[whole hornet]

you guys gotta step it up

[dull dust]

rough

damn

lock in @lofty depot

[agile orchid]

Every spec ever that’s not meta

[obsidian fjord]

112k overall incoming

[dull dust]

whats meta rn

because pugs say the same shit to me on mage

[agile orchid]

What mr biggest YouTuber said

[agile orchid]

Gamer

[whole hornet]

well considering i'm in a raid

[uncut roost]

How many stacks of determination do you have?

[whole hornet]

i don't even know what that is ngl

[obsidian fjord]

pugging raid ...

[whole hornet]

what is this meant to mean

[frozen osprey]

Hello guys which trinket can i farm from m+ that are good enough to play the spec? And how much vaelgor final stare is necessary?

[lofty depot]

uhh get your renown trinket cuz its good

feather or soulcatchers

[frozen osprey]

thank you mate, the dragon trink is necessary?

[stark meteor]

getting turned down from +4's at 250ilvl...

[normal pilot]

no, no trinket is necessary, it's only a few %

they're all nice to have

[lofty depot]

its necessary

[lofty depot]

thats what happens when 10s are easy

everyone is 260+

[dull dust]

I had to get a guild group to get into a +10 at 265

[cloud citrus]

m+ shouldve def been a bit harder

[dull dust]

+30s this season surely

[stark meteor]

got mogged by a ret paladin by like 40k dps

insane

what even is their rotation

[dull dust]

whatever lights up probably

as is tradition

[stark meteor]

is it worth the weekly quest thing where u win 2 battlegrounds for the hero ring/amulet?

or is that pvp shit

[pseudo merlin]

just queue for the pve pvp

[stark meteor]

pve pvp?

[lofty depot]

the neck be good

[delicate perch]

not as good as not entering pvp

[dull dust]

real

[sudden pawn]

u can just queue the training grounds bgs vs bots

dont worry u dont have to interact with other humans

[stark meteor]

THAT'S WHAT TRAINING GROUNDS IS??

they just add shit to the game now huh

[sudden pawn]

its humans vs bots in those small 10-15 man bgs

and it gives u credit

might as well do it if ur bored and watching tv

[vast nimbus]

good luck in raid @lofty depot 🫡

[delicate perch]

humans being plural being other people insane enough to enter pvp? no thank you

[sudden pawn]

i see..

[lofty depot]

YA YA

[lucid olive]

hope u die to every mechanic at least twice

[delicate perch]

where stream

[dull dust]

where stream

[delicate perch]

oh he's streaming

[lucid olive]

where stream @lofty depot

[delicate perch]

login hate watching time @vital hound

[dull dust]

can I get mod in chat

[delicate perch]

bros going for world 789th hof

[vital hound]

[lucid olive]

nah man is multi streaming what the helly

[delicate perch]

can't even hate watch just arctic these days

whats the point

[dull dust]

@lofty depot ur supposed to kill the adds

hope that helps

[lucid olive]

https://www.twitch.tv/arcticop this is not self-advertising since not my stream so its not against the rules

everyone tune in and tell arctic what he does wrong

instantly after he does it

especially if its the opener

[delicate perch]

[dull dust]

bro didnt kill the adds good

[mighty mica]

[dull dust]

need to add the bot here

so i can summon thyme with runescape

[normal pilot]

unfort can't even viewbot

[analog moat]

3-*/+

[delicate perch]

same actually

[analog moat]

Kid dropped legos on the keyboard lol

[teal sphinx]

Just post ai

[mighty mica]

one of their first posts as orange was ai

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-12955092

[dull dust]

its true

almost executed out the gate

[mighty mica]

it's not WT so i can't do anything about it :)

[dull dust]

[viscid star]

do we get another catalyst charge tomorrow, or is it the next week?

[lucid olive]

should be tomorrow

[drifting nova]

something must be wrong, the imposter has orange

[dull dust]

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

[digital berry]

Ngl what is the point of making tier set rng through drops if by week 2 you are almost guaranteed to get all 4 pieces anyway. Like I get why catalysts are a thing but it feels weird

[dull dust]

agreed

[drifting nova]

because 90% of classes are balanced around tier set

adn not without it

[dull dust]

should just hard gate it till week 3 for everyone

[drifting nova]

you'l see that with LITERALLY ANY TIME WE START A SEASON

[dull dust]

race be damned

[drifting nova]

we could start the season with 4p

[digital berry]

That would make more sense

[drifting nova]

it's a semi hold over from tier back in the day being impactful

except yknow you had to actually earn it

[digital berry]

Then pity giving it to you anyway week 2

[drifting nova]

and the obvious reason

minigmers bitched they never got it

so did less damage

jokes on them I didnt get shit doing raid anyway

raid loot in general is just balls now

[digital berry]

But like I don’t hate the idea of catalyst charges, 3 in a week seems a bit redundant

[drifting nova]

its 1

[digital berry]

By tomorrow we will have 3

No ?

[drifting nova]

1 a week but sure

atp I swear they're beating tier sets into the ground

"we knew we shouldve got rid of them years ago but the community was adamant to keep them"

similar logic with smf for warriors

turns out you can influence the way people think about something by not doing something

the tiers of the past few xpacs are the same way legion legendaries were legendary

[dull dust]

I like tier sets for the gameplay shakeup

nothing else

[drifting nova]

the hwat now

[dull dust]

assuming they actually change the way u play or talents u take

which isnt always true

[drifting nova]

which they dont

especially not now post prune

[dull dust]

yeah

Just means they failed todo what they are ment for imo

[drifting nova]

or they intended to do in the first place

perspective innit

[obsidian fjord]

if a tier set is completely passive its a failure

[drifting nova]

then 90% are failures

[obsidian fjord]

correct

incredibly shit job by blizz on tier sets for a long time

[drifting nova]

think it was wod/prelegion where they wanted to get rid of tier sets

[normal pilot]

they did during bfa

[drifting nova]

ehhhh

did they tho

[glacial steeple]

Azerite gear

[normal pilot]

they learned their lesson, you don't give wow player choices

[obsidian fjord]

the first tier they brought back tier sets after getting rid of them, almost every single tier set had gameplay changes

now they are just lazy

[normal pilot]

tier sets do their job fine, they don't need to be interesting or have gameplay changes

[glacial steeple]

You don't like passive damage bonus?

[drifting nova]

idk maybe its my boomer brain thinking but part of what made tier so nice

[normal pilot]

they just need to make ppl not think about gearing for those slots

[drifting nova]

was the rarity in it

(same with the legendaries of legion)

[obsidian fjord]

idk how you can think that way

[drifting nova]

if everyone has it by week 3

its just a tuning knob

[obsidian fjord]

you think about gearing in those slots the same way

if its tier or not

with catalyst system etc

[drifting nova]

the only benefit to the catalyst

[obsidian fjord]

u still think about the stats on the pieces

[normal pilot]

sure but you don't care what item you get in those slots

[drifting nova]

is vers gear isnt doa for me

[obsidian fjord]

yes you do