yeah this sequence is bad
#balance
drifting nova
pallid bay
but thats some minmax shit
lusty echo
This spec makes me want to have someone hold my hand while I play crying.
dull dust
what
pallid bay
dont matter in the great scheme of things
inland sleet
Pot so early ?
obsidian jetty
the amount of times they just don't moonfire my boss
dull dust
pressing eclipse before sims bad for kotg for some reason
obsidian jetty
probably all my 13 reason why
pallid bay
or they all send moonfire on the same target
obsidian jetty
are treant related
dull dust
if timers are good do it but idk if id reccomend otherwise
pallid bay
really wish they would simplify things
obsidian jetty
every boss is pad fiesta, so it's fairly hard to say "this is how you should play the fight ethically."
pallid bay
remove one of the 36 cd permutations
lusty echo
How do you pad on adds that die fast ? Starfall isn't working, right ?
obsidian jetty
when I played spriest last xpac, I just kept thinking, "why isn't boomy like this." 30s cd 1m cd 2m cd
everything always lined up
just press on CD
play game
obsidian jetty
How do you pad on adds that die fast ? Starfall isn't working, right ?
prefall them spawning, shroom when they are up
or slam boss
can also run 4s fall
which I will probably be running next week on first boss atleast
livid jay
the fact that the innvervate doesnt hurt u more..
pallid bay
control - power of the dream
early spring - bounteous bloom
CA - incarn
eclipse - eclipse 2 charges - eclipse 30s cd - eclipse 2 charges 30s cd
FoE - RM
convoke - EG
then take all of those
drifting nova
the fact that the innvervate doesnt hurt u more..
who even uses innervate wtf
pallid bay
power of #
royal zenith
me
livid jay
me
drifting nova
someone cook up a convoke build for ec
pallid bay
and you have your 1.1112007e+16 combinations
livid jay
nice moonfire
obsidian jetty
trees moonfire
yea, but thats like 6s with no moonfire
livid jay
trees are animals
obsidian jetty
as opposed to 2-3 normally
pallid bay
we should bring the regrowth opener
dull dust
pallid bay
regrowth regrowth regrowth regrowth wrath wrath regrowth wrath wrath
dull dust
how about the precombat eclipse for elunes challenge
pallid bay
actually do you starfire in that case instead?
livid jay
doesnt it shoot a bolt at target
dull dust
pallid bay
how about the precombat eclipse for elunes challenge
that goes hard
pallid bay
livid jay
WE GOT A HIT
pallid bay
w/e i guess ill just not press eclipse
livid jay
its vibes based on boss timings
obsidian jetty
w/e i guess ill just not press eclipse
in general, it lines up better on some bosses to do it anyways
pallid bay
in general, it lines up better on some bosses to do it anyways
yea
dull dust
uh sorta
obsidian jetty
otherwise you kinda go dry when adds are spawning
livid jay
i got skipped on bis trinket yesterday cause my sim increase didnt make cutoff
can we fix that
dull dust
if u can manage to not agro the boss with ur dryad its prob good to prepull eclipse
surely
obsidian jetty
should check if it works on tarague
pallid bay
and you have your 1.1112007e+16 combinations
gg i forgot trinket cd variations
obsidian jetty
might remove shit on boss pull
pallid bay
4.37893890381e17
obsidian jetty
would have to probably untarget, ecl, cancelaura insta wrath, into 2x wrath normal opener
if you target, you're pulling boss early, if you instacast gl getting 2 wraths off
obsidian jetty
sounds like a cheat code to get kicked from raid
pallid bay
need someone to play 1 eclipse charge
obsidian jetty
dull dust
just some random shit i clicked nb off
pallid bay
its basically capping AP there
dull dust
pallid bay
funny little tree
all these talents are so weirdge
touch incentives you to enter eclipse when u get it
stellar amp incentives not dropping it ofc
elune's challenge want you to not pool
starlord being 20s
silly lil things
dull dust
class designed like jenga
i have no idea why this is like this
hm
pooling only to 80 so u dont overcap isnt as good
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fickle grail
hi.
Might be a bit of a weird question.
recently i found that in high haste situations (bl opener mostly) i find myself unable to react to starweaver procs?
Like im spamming starsurge, get a proc, move over to spamming starfall, yet my character 99% of the time does an extra starsurge(which sometimes overrides the proc with a new one, thus wasting it), and then pretty often also does 2 casts of starfall instead of just one.
Im guessing i should fiddle with the spellqueue window settings, but its a bit weird that this has never been a problem even back in the venthyr days with way more haste than what i have now.
Did anything change, or anyone saw anything similar on their end?
half summit
for M+ On whom should i turst the usage of eclipse
Dreams grove:
Enter Lunar Eclipse if you are currently not in an Eclipse
WowHEad:
Enter Lunar Eclipse if you're above 90% Astral Power Astral Power and you're either about to overcap on charges or Fury of Elune is also available
?
livid jay
hi.
Might be a bit of a weird question.
recently i found that in high haste situ...
i also noticed that in lust im stumbling over weaver procs sometimes and i thought i was tripping, if anyone got any input on this would be great..
fickle grail
i did see a reddit post about this with people complaining about the same thing on different classes (spamming instants in a row getting into a type of "lag")
quiet drift
Nuke Eclipses
fickle grail
but like i dont trust reddit
pallid bay
idk it does feel off
round field
oh thats an actual thing
i thought i was tripping
frost dk and oblit feel like a big criminal for this
livid jay
i thought i was getting old stumbling over weaver procs sometimes
round field
this game just sucks
dull dust
ive been watching my animations instead of my bars for over a year
i assumed it was just me
sick
livid jay
animations?
dull dust
drifting nova
i watch my ice lance come outa my face
I'm sorry I have something to tell you
round field
ive been watching my animations instead of my bars for over a year
its so good
i press obliterate
and the animation comes out 3 seconds after
dull dust
I'm sorry I have something to tell you
hi
soft dragon
can anyone explain the difference in these sims :
first one ribbon was simming higher than gaze
second one its not
dull dust
ones 4.5k higher
tw
yw
jk
theres been a lot of stuff changed in the last 4 days
ik aln was looked at last week but i dont remember what days
royal zenith
feel like the gcd's being slow is just a result of stat squish
but sometimes it does feel like a button doesn't register properly
sudden flame
We gotta nerf boomie can’t be simming 98k week one
dull dust
aint even 120k in full bis
royal zenith
exactly
jade flume
Idk if my babamkin even sims 60k...
pallid bay
We gotta nerf boomie can’t be simming 98k week one
feral simming 1 gorillion
you almost had me
i stayed strong though
fake kitten sims
sudden flame
Feral needs buffs badly 
jade flume
proven sail
yea let me watch starfall xD
isnt that the only reason to play druid?
sudden flame
Do you think if they didn’t change balance mastery boomie would be as down bad as feral?
quiet drift
Make Kindling apply 2s of Dots instead of just extending
and we crank in aoe
Pressing Starfall isnt even that great when like more than a third of our dmg is dots
jade flume
They should buff bamker on st by like 15%
jade flume
And then it would be vibe
jade flume
Not even a top 5 druid spec...
jade flume
Its avg iq score by spec you cant trick me
sudden flame
Another tier set nerf incoming for boomie 
round field
deserved
crazy that u freaks managed to gaslight the entire community that u need buffs
and then get 20% and become of the best specs in the game
obtuse jungle
then explain why some spec sim at 108k on single target and we sim at 88 k
round field
cause the sims are fake
sandbaggers
plus st sims dont matter if theres barely any st in the game
round field
so are all other players
obtuse jungle
cause if you look at the boomy parses, when boomy perform by parses, they have lower dps on bosses (main target) than a lot of other spec in game
obtuse jungle
let's look at top boomy on chimarus and top dh okay ?
round field
round field
just accept that ur wrong
accept the nerfs that are coming
and be done with it
stats dont lie
obtuse jungle
46k best boomy on boss dammage (remember 118k overall) while dh is at 138 overall but 45.5k on boss dmg . we win by .5k on boss dammage but lose by 20k overall with 3 PI also
like idk what to tell you
with 3 pi we perform 20k less and only 500 dmg more on boss
obtuse jungle
go look for yourself its right there in logs
obtuse jungle
we only can parse when we send everything on add and its a fact tho
on pure single a lot of class beat us by far
my friend dk sim at 108 and i sim at 84 we are same ilvl and i have 4 set he dosn't like idk what to tell you
alpine imp
Hi, what is better for m+, oribt breaker or other option also do you play with mushrooms?
lofty depot
Hi, what is better for m+, oribt breaker or other option also do you play with m...
Don't know yet....
And probably. The build will get more fleshed out soontm
proven sail
would anyone mind sending me a vod of a m+ run? preferably 10-13 key with EC
i tried searching on youtube but i cant find any recent ones
lofty depot
You can likely look up krona, canexx, or goop playing boomkin
proven sail
cant find em
languid estuary
are Wraps of Cosmic Madness bad in m+?
lofty depot
Not looking hard enough
lofty depot
are Wraps of Cosmic Madness bad in m+?
It's not particularly good
languid estuary
kk ty, didnt think it looked too good for m+
lofty depot
I got mythic one for crest save big poggy
dawn surge
you will get nerfed
bruh u dont even play the game why are u being like that 
actually a toxic relationship u cant leave
round field
bruh u dont even play the game why are u being like that <:HUH:11156743478651290...
I was bored i had to regebait
Youre too sprouty to understand
round field
Ur a sprout here
dawn surge
ye fair enough
its kinda funny how much pad is involved in the parsing of boomy though
will say
my raid has a lot of padders and 2 decent/good devourers, genuinely impossible to pad enough for a 100
lofty depot
It's not like other classes arent padding
dawn surge
yeah but most classes cant spread cleave in a 45 yd circle around themselves
lofty depot
Also, why r we PI-ing boomkin kek
regal fern
hi does anyone know if raidbots is simming the emerald whistle trinket correctly for us?
lofty depot
Depends what ur seeing it sim like, maybe u pressed some wrong settings
It got nerfed recently
regal fern
lofty depot
It looks like its updated but idk.... Change ur version to latest and see if it goes down even further kek
lofty depot
Seems fine nonetheless
drifting lagoon
how much time do you guys spend preppin moonfires* on a pull in Mythics? do you basically just rotate targets and spam it until the pull is gathered then you drop your sunfire on everything and roll right into fury of elune and the rest of the rotation?
twin lotus
Yes pretty much
ruby badger
how much time do you guys spend preppin moonfires* on a pull in Mythics? do you ...
Do you mean moonfire
drifting lagoon
yeah
ruby badger
If so I usually just dot whatever I expect to live most the duration of moonfire
Spend if I'm going to overcap
Send CDs when done dotting
and just send 1 sunfire once stuff is gathered
drifting lagoon
so if mobs are still alive afte both dots expire do you just kind of gauge if its worth reapplying based on the health?
ruby badger
Yeah
drifting lagoon
assuming you're not in an eclipse
drifting lagoon
okay cool, im starting to get a hang of the flow of it for sure, i imagine my biggest flaw right now is not rolling my fury of elune cooldown
ruby badger
There is a cap on it but in M+ atm most stuff isn't really lasting a full moonfire + full extension
DoT stuff up
Keep eclipses and Incarns rolling
Go into eclipses and Incarns with a good amount of AP
Don't overcap
and you'll be milking a lot of boomy's damage
drifting lagoon
is it ever safe to drop starfire/starfall while outside of eclipse? or only when you're about to cap
ruby badger
Yeah you can spend outside of eclipse
As long as you go into your next eclipse with good AP, however you spend before that will be fine
as long as you're not overcapping
If you know you'll have like ~15 secs of downtime that's enough time to build a starlord and then refill your AP bar before next eclipse
lofty depot
so if mobs are still alive afte both dots expire do you just kind of gauge if it...
Why are dots expiring
Are we not playing kindling
drifting lagoon
i am
lofty depot
Spending out side of eclipse is usually fine
But the opener sequence, ur pressing. Eclipse and dumping starfalls then entering incarn
So less unbuffed starfalls if ur not full asp when doing that
drifting lagoon
they dont always expire but some pulls get wonky or i guess the damage isnt ideal
lofty depot
Sus
drifting lagoon
i think most of th etime its probably pulls when mobs are showing up or tank is adding more mobs to the pull through my rotation so i probably freeze for a few seconds
or more than likely im just missing mobs with the moonfire and realizing it mid pull
coral shell
What craft are you guys going for tommorow?
lofty depot
Probably gloves
lofty depot
or more than likely im just missing mobs with the moonfire and realizing it mid ...
Probably this, but that's getting used to what's being pulled and knowing what ur doing
drifting lagoon
aye im sure that will just come with time/gamesense
coral shell
Probably gloves
Thank you
polar wharf
is power of goldrinn bug? not showing on logs
lofty depot
Look under starsurge
lucid olive
Look under starsurge
which starsurge
subtle nacelle
I wish solstice from eclipse would just be a "add 6sec solstice" to whatever seconds you are currently on. The fact if you are on 4seconds and then use eclipse it just goes to 6seconds or worse is if you are on 20+seconds and eclipse it goes down to 6sec, that is so dumb. have it always been like that?
(returning player after long time away)
lucid olive
yes its always been like that
in fact it was worse last expansion
Solstice being forcefully applied and wiping previous duration after entering Eclipse is probably some leftover mechanic from when you had Arcanic Pulsar that would proc a mini CA, and they wanted to stop you from doing like Eclipse -> CA -> Pulsar to get 6x3 seconds of Solstice
but then was never changed again after they removed Pulsar
lofty depot
which starsurge
The big one silly
subtle nacelle
yes its always been like that
Its like a minigame that is kinda fun when you play with starweaver but they are like kinda crippling you to make it not fun
lucid olive
the problem is that Hail of Stars is a dogshit buff for gameplay
Shooting Stars are kind of boring and Orbit Breaker is completely untrackable
austere lichen
guys i'm playing with mushroom on buttons and i like it. it's like 7% overall damage at the end of the key. am i missing dps casting it instead of starfall?
lucid olive
probably not, those casts would likely be something else
mushrooms replace wrath/starfire casts usually
i wouldn't do active mushrooms if i played elunes chosen though
ruby badger
the advantage from manual mushrooms is it feels easier to load up on the AP it generates when you want it
subtle nacelle
Shooting Stars are kind of boring and Orbit Breaker is completely untrackable
I kinda like shooting stars
austere lichen
imagine 15-ish mob pack and mushroom does like what? 500% spellpower overall? shiiiiiet
it's not capped either
subtle nacelle
you playing kotg then I guess for nature eclipse
ruby badger
I'd need a wiser moonkin to say for sure but I feel like just spending on starfall is your best bet
austere lichen
i'm not though
ruby badger
and the mushrooms generating AP for your starfall when you need it is the advantage they bring
starfall on a 15 target pull means 15 targets to proc your tierset with as well
subtle nacelle
well, you wouldnt click mushroom if you have asp for starfall, you click mushroom when you dont have asp for starfall
ruby badger
"am i missing dps casting it [mushrooms] instead of starfall?"
is what i'm responding to
austere lichen
i've tried to casually count damage from manual mushrooms. it's 500% when the starsurge is 350% on single target. 15 targets = 500*15. it's like 23 starsurges from 1 gcd. am i doing it right?
lucid olive
starfall on a 15 target pull means 15 targets to proc your tierset with as well
idk if that's how the tier set works
think it's just flat % chance for every spender cast
so target count for the spenders don't matter
the 4set proc is uncapped AoE though
but it's uncapped AoE regardless of being procced by Starsurge or Starfall
ruby badger
ahhh right
lucid olive
on beta the uncapped AoE would also give +1 to Orbit Breaker every time
before they made Orbit Breaker have an ICD
ruby badger
so it's 30% per starfall to afflict every target with exploding shooting star?
lucid olive
well the exploding shooting star is just on your main target I think
and then splashes dmg around it
not sure if the dmg is sqrt scaling to account for AoE DR or something
ruby badger
lucid olive
i could be making shit up as well but that's how i understood it on the beta
subtle nacelle
Ye it is most likely how Shadowy Apparitions is for idol of yogg, "After conjuring Shadowy Apparitions, gain a stack of Idol of Yogg-Saron." you click tentacle or madness and you make like 40 ghosts and get 1 stack of idol xD
kindred token
Is this a burst window?
royal zenith
?
round field
What
pseudo merlin
technically a video is just a series of many screenshots
so who knows
please do something about this
there's literally no way you need to walk around knowing you've completed 0/1 PVP brawls
kindred token
please do something about this
Too lazy lol
kindred token
🤣
pseudo merlin
Like if you look at a damage timeline, the bit right after you press all your cds and start bursting, to the bit where your damage spike ends and drops off hard, that's your burst window
kindred token
It's when is all CD's are active?
pseudo merlin
It doesnt have to be this complicated
IT's when you're b ursting that is it
You can recognise this in logs by the clear damage spike
Usually the whole or majority portion of when your cds are active yes
But it might be more condensed towards the front end
delicate perch
Is this a burst window?
delicate perch
Like if you look at a damage timeline, the bit right after you press all your cd...
My damage never falls off (it’s always very low)
pseudo merlin
Neverending burst
pseudo merlin
royal zenith
jk Idc
eager raft
what the hell
royal zenith
pseudo merlin
wowwwwwww
eager raft
anyone kinder than deux wanna chat?
eager raft
lmk
lofty depot
Is this a burst window?
Why r we tracking moonfire and Sunfire twice
Where are the nameplates
delicate perch
The more I look the more upset I get
kindred token
Where are the nameplates
I had it, but my UI got messed up and tracking bar is just happens to be there lol
eager raft
Why is arctic asking unrelated questions
pseudo merlin
arctic?
pseudo merlin
delicate perch
If you don’t know if it’s a burst window just say that
Real
lofty depot
Go play hunter rat
tribal gale
Yo guys just started playing a few days ago, since yesterday when I use my cds I get some aoe silence on the ground spawning and following me, tried looking if it could be my gear but I guess I'm blind I can't find the source xd
eager raft
My hunter is level 87 bucko
delicate perch
Yo guys just started playing a few days ago, since yesterday when I use my cds ...
Show your trinkets
lofty depot
Damn not even 90
delicate perch
That smells of a delve trinket
eager raft
io?
dense steeple
Or the potion
lofty depot
Idk if the potion moves
pseudo merlin
that everyone picks cuz it sims best
dense steeple
Yes
lofty depot
Suppose the trinket doesn't follow u either
pseudo merlin
nobody reads anymore
lofty depot
Shrug
dense steeple
He read that potion give more int than other potion
lofty depot
Idk blud doing some funny shit
dense steeple
pseudo merlin
massive
the amount of people who've gotten unknowingly borked by that potion this xpac is wild
lofty depot
Really?
pseudo merlin
yes i see it almost daily
lofty depot
I've not noticed many people using it
eager raft
What potion
pseudo merlin
dont worry about it
eager raft
I just use lights potench
pseudo merlin
Got silenced during convoke
😂
pseudo merlin
I just went
lofty depot
Got silenced during convoke
Just move 4head
pseudo merlin
Oh wow insane potion > reads desccription > oh yeah nvm
lofty depot
Soma old man, can't react fast enough
dense steeple
pseudo merlin
can you even play around it well enough to make it worth?
like hypothetically
it's so disruptive
eager raft
Guy like me could
lofty depot
There's a delay in the silence
pseudo merlin
yeah you still gotta move
lofty depot
It's not like it spawns and ur silenced, type of thing
lofty depot
It spawned on me, I finished my wrath I was casting, surges and moved
I would need to try it in raid tho
pseudo merlin
oh you have time to finish a whole ass wrath
eager raft
I’m positive it’s not worth using
pseudo merlin
same with the new AA first boss
eager raft
If it fucked me once I’d tilt
pseudo merlin
they changed the circles did you notice
you can sit there and just hardcast in between
lofty depot
If it fucked me once I’d tilt
U get fucked a lot
pseudo merlin
U get fucked a lot
I might try it then
lofty depot
Well that comment wasn't toward the potion
eager raft
I realized yesterday I’ve been using the complete wrong hero tree in m+ and doing like 20% less damage than I should be
Never trust a wowhead guide
Moral of the story
lofty depot
Which one
pseudo merlin
exactly
lofty depot
U can play keeper or Elune and have the same results
If it's 20% worse than just means ur 20% worse playing that one
eager raft
I Don’t play this class man
tribal gale
isnt that the potion
Was in a pull, it was the potions I bought yesterday, what the fk is this shiii 
royal zenith
If it's 20% worse than just means ur 20% worse playing that one
this is true
you can also play manual shrooms on EC and just pad your brain out
sounds like a self-report
eager raft
I don’t even play balance druid man
royal zenith
lofty depot
Why r u here then
eager raft
if I did I’d do more than 20% more than either of you
lofty depot
Get out
lofty depot
if I did I’d do more than 20% more than either of you
That's cap
U can't keep up old man
pseudo merlin
Was in a pull, it was the potions I bought yesterday, what the fk is this shiii ...
just play it
you got this
just use the weakaura for it
oh wait
tribal gale
Hel na back to the auction house
I hope someone else buys it and gets as confused as I was
pseudo merlin
they will dont worry
tribal gale
pseudo merlin
you add those together and that's almost a blue parse
pseudo merlin
is that normal?
lofty depot
For him yea
lofty depot
Doubt
eager raft
The movement on vorasius was genuinely difficult
lofty depot
What
lofty depot
Nah
pseudo merlin
Put the f ries in the bag?
lofty depot
This guy is fucked
eager raft
bro I was STRUGGLING
pseudo merlin
A
eager raft
the game don’t give me any insta cast procs
lofty depot
Skill issue
eager raft
So I was stuck waddling my ass around
royal zenith
tank soak was always opposite of the safe-spot within the rings
could literally pre-move
lofty depot
The 1 time u move in 10 seconds
eager raft
I think it’s bugged or something
royal zenith
what do you meannnnnnnn
eager raft
It’s the add phases
pseudo merlin
in the add phases ducks..
eager raft
Standing on wall to bait then moving for explosion
pseudo merlin
just outrange it?
lofty depot
Moving doe the explosion kek
eager raft
You guys aren’t being very nice
lofty depot
Wait does he not know u only get targeted once?
eager raft
I’m being vulnerable
pseudo merlin
i thought you were respectable
eager raft
And talking about my struggles as a new player
pseudo merlin
I'm sorry
eager raft
isnt demo like the most mobile ranged spec in the game
I legit think it’s bugged I’m not getting anywhere near enough demonic cores
pseudo merlin
weird
eager raft
I implode 6 imps and get zero cores half the time
pseudo merlin
eager raft
I don’t think I’m supposed to be playing demo on that boss anyway
digital berry
is there any point on doing the quests for upgrading the crucible trinket or are the bonuses just local to that area
pseudo merlin
theyre active everywhere
lofty depot
So the quests
pseudo merlin
for me its bis untill like hc-myuth trinbkets
eager raft
If you are using the trinket do the quests
lofty depot
Are very important
eager raft
They r good
lofty depot
And they're weekly
pseudo merlin
idk about chicken
eager raft
Are u ret
digital berry
it's the research console thing right?
eager raft
Or spriest
pseudo merlin
shadow
lofty depot
Yes
eager raft
Hell ya
pseudo merlin
that trinket is like
it beatss dungeon trinkets
so dont have to farm
(I farmed dungeon trinket anywya)
eager raft
the raid trinkets are insane for spriest
eager raft
Gave my spriest the dragon one from heroic and it was like +5%
digital berry
unfortunately the quest wants me to do 3 world quests and i have a grand total of 0 up
pseudo merlin
its ok
lofty depot
Go do the pvp ones
lofty depot
Or wait til reset
eager raft
I need chim to drop me an off hand tonight
pseudo merlin
im a staff crafter
digital berry
didnt craft a 2h smh
pseudo merlin
mh oh is some late season shit
lofty depot
Not crafting staff
royal zenith
ill get my vaelgor and ezzarak myth trinket tonight
yeah right
lofty depot
This guy is actually trolling
eager raft
I might craft staff tmrw
pseudo merlin
yeah right
It's happening buddy
lofty depot
Might???
eager raft
Wanted to wait for first m+ vault
lofty depot
What r u waiting dor
digital berry
what did you craft
lofty depot
Ain't no way
eager raft
To see if I vault a wep
pseudo merlin
who else is going to get it
royal zenith
devourer
pseudo merlin
what a surprise
vouching for his baby spec
.....
why is it so good for voidman anyway
if I look at our wowaudit
its like
1.8-2.3k for everyone
5.2k for ddh
like what
eager raft
Ain't no way
I maybe shoulda crafted weap this week but didn’t really feel worth
digital berry
goddamn why are flasks so expensive im legit broke
lofty depot
I maybe shoulda crafted weap this week but didn’t really feel worth
Sounds dumb
pseudo merlin
be in a guild that gives out consumables or
lofty depot
Why are we making decisions based on chance
eager raft
because the whole gear system is based on chance
lofty depot
Blud just sitting on upgrades
eager raft
It’s the first week man who cares
lofty depot
U when u get sat for doing tank dam
eager raft
I’m not playing the game for a weeek 1 ilvl screenshot
digital berry
isnt crafting weap like extremely crest efficient?
lofty depot
Well a m+ staff is the same efficiency
pseudo merlin
and not very respectable
surreal frigate
Quick question if anyone can help I am reading the dreamgrove guide but I am getting a bit confused you want trees and convince up for every use of CA but do you also want to hold eclipses for trees or just is it nice if they line up?
lofty depot
Just delaying for fun
pseudo merlin
Well a m+ staff is the same efficiency
???? hc track
pseudo merlin
tag me tomorrow buddy
lofty depot
Quick question if anyone can help I am reading the dreamgrove guide but I am get...
U trees essentially on cd with eclipse or ca
CA with trees always
Convoke with CA
eager raft
worst case I don’t get one and I craft insta
lofty depot
"insta"
lofty depot
Gonna farm the most m+ all season week 1
eager raft
hindering
lofty depot
Yes, first u join.... So already an L
eager raft
me not knowing how to play was much more a hinderance
pseudo merlin
for real tho
how amazing is this season
best dungeon pool and best tuning
Raiders rise up
eager raft
Yes, first u join.... So already an L
io?
pseudo merlin
no mini game struggles
surreal frigate
U trees essentially on cd with eclipse or ca
CA with trees always
Convoke with C...
Thanks for the reply much appreciated
lofty depot
Like 2700 or some shit
eager raft
piss low
pseudo merlin
woa
eager raft
Really putting that weapon to work
lucid olive
how amazing is this season
idk
pseudo merlin
im only 785
lucid olive
i'm low pash
lofty depot
How many keys u do
eager raft
Like 30 or something
eager raft
Bro did 80 keys and crafted a weapon just to have less ilvl and score than me
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
pseudo merlin
i'm low pash
idk what that means im above 30
lofty depot
What ilvl r u
eager raft
271
lucid olive
idk what that means im above 30
passion
pseudo merlin
ah
eager raft
🫵 😂
lofty depot
Imagine grey parsing with assumed higher ilvl
eager raft
Imagine grey parsing with assumed higher ilvl
I was lower when I grey parsed buddy
And my gear had nothing to do with it
lofty depot
Fell off
eager raft
dw I redeem myself tonight on chim and nexus king
lofty depot
Yea totally
eager raft
temporarily fell off
eager raft
until I rise back up better than ever
pseudo merlin
dw I redeem myself tonight on chim and nexus king
you're the nexus king
eager raft
eager raft
you're the nexus king
you’re my king
pseudo merlin
😳
dire osprey
farming m+ 
lofty depot
Think everyone is ur king
royal zenith
I have done 15 keys
pseudo merlin
woa deux
royal zenith
should be enough for 1 week
pseudo merlin
calm down
royal zenith
yeah it's not healthy
pseudo merlin
the top 10 in my guild is all 50+
dire osprey
the trick is to let ur guild farm m+ and then have them do a leather group for u 1 day before raid
royal zenith
the hype will start
royal zenith
hell yeah
royal zenith
ye
pseudo merlin
lmao
lucid olive
the top 10 in my guild is all 50+
I thought this was age when I read it first
royal zenith
which is perfect
pseudo merlin
Im laughing so hard if liquid kills it before method wakes up
lucid olive
I wouldn't be surprised if they did
royal zenith
method 💀
lofty depot
pseudo merlin
you know what I mean
royal zenith
I think the birb will die fast
royal zenith
can't say the same for last boss
lofty depot
4 on alt I think
pseudo merlin
ye birb easy
lucid olive
The bird drops same item lvl as Salhadaar
lucid olive
and mechanics on that boss are piss
pseudo merlin
but in modern day
exotic perch
goddamn ive done 36 and that is so many
lucid olive
I can imagine Midnight Falls being like 100 pulls ish for Liquid
lucid olive
but not much more than that
royal zenith
and not drip-feed raids
lofty depot
goddamn ive done 36 and that is so many
Didn't need to farm more than 15 of either pit or nexus either
Ez grind
exotic perch
im just missing like belt/boots/bracers
royal zenith
ring
lucid olive
I think a big part of this tier feeling easy can be blamed on the insane round of class buffs they pushed on the same day the raid released
exotic perch
but i can craft bracers tmr
lofty depot
im just missing like belt/boots/bracers
Same
royal zenith
I think a big part of this tier feeling easy can be blamed on the insane round o...
hmm I dunno about that one
lofty depot
I cba grinding for shit under 0.3% I'm not upgrading for weeks
eager raft
Think everyone is ur king
why are u so aggressive man 
royal zenith
healing is genuinely pretty harsh
lofty depot
Gotta break u down to build u back up
royal zenith
and the dps check on vorasius is also fine
lucid olive
yeah they didn't buff healers by 20% did they
royal zenith
in any tier where you did not have heroic week
it would've also been different
so I dunno
lofty depot
Didn't even have to minmax the damage on cosmos man
lucid olive
yeah definitely
royal zenith
maybe it's more of a gearing issue than % buff
exotic perch
we got stronger way faster this tier
royal zenith
but I have no clue
lucid olive
you can't compare this tier to any tier that doesn't have heroic week
exotic perch
then we usually ever have first tier of expac
lofty depot
Liquid gonna walk into March with like 10ilvls from max and destroy it
royal zenith
it's all over the place
lucid olive
we got stronger way faster this tier
yeah that happens every time they shake up the upgrade system
sometimes you gear slower than they expect and sometimes faster
exotic perch
yeah but this upgrade version is inherently the best
exotic perch
no valorstones and crests locked to item type
lofty depot
Doing 15s smh
exotic perch
way way better
pseudo merlin
I spent more time gearing before m+ came out than after m+ came out, I was like 268 the same day
😂
lucid olive
I think there are too many "gain crests that don't count towards cap" shit in the game
exotic perch
no silly dont upgrade things or w/e
lucid olive
did you know that if you get like 2-3 myth items from a raid on an alt
eager raft
Doing 15s smh
They were fun
pseudo merlin
I think there are too many "gain crests that don't count towards cap" shit in th...
That's just one side of the tuning knob right, they could also remove these things and lower reqs
lucid olive
and you're fully capped on hero and myth including the one-off "don't count towards cap" items
eager raft
And the extra chance at loot was extra chances at trinket
lucid olive
you can proc the hero achievement already
pseudo merlin
you can proc the hero achievement already
you can also downgrade mythic crests
exotic perch
only off cap ones is the ?? boss and the cracked keystone right?
pseudo merlin
on an alt
lucid olive
you can also downgrade mythic crests
yes this is what i mean
eager raft
only off cap ones is the ?? boss and the cracked keystone right?
I think there was some from housing too
lucid olive
only off cap ones is the ?? boss and the cracked keystone right?
no theres a bunch
eager raft
Like 20 hero crests
lofty depot
only off cap ones is the ?? boss and the cracked keystone right?
Nightmare prey
lucid olive
prey weekly
lofty depot
And it's given uncapped twice now
lucid olive
also both ? and ?? give uncapped
eager raft
also both ? and ?? give uncapped
Like independently?
pseudo merlin
wait am i missing out on prey weekly
eager raft
Or doing ?? Gave both?
pseudo merlin
is that a thing this week too
lofty depot
Yes
pseudo merlin
what do i need to do
lofty depot
Well new week idk
lucid olive
Like independently?
i skimmed thru larias guide
lofty depot
3 preys silly
pseudo merlin
what do I get
lofty depot
Go to the quest guy
lucid olive
i was trying to find out how many myth items you would need to proc hero achievement this week
and that shit is possible
pseudo merlin
I dont want to keep helping out that omega sussy elf
he's going to be the next raid boss
lofty depot
Venthyr raid lfg
eager raft
Is hero achievement ilvl based or do u need all slots
lucid olive
all slots at max hero
lofty depot
All slots
lucid olive
if all 15 items are 3/6 hero thats 900 crests
account for like 3 myth items that's -180
pseudo merlin
dude making a thumbnail like this for a 100 viewer +10 upload is crazy work
exotic perch
I think there was some from housing too
housing isnt uncapped
lucid olive
then add in your total myth cap with all the uncapped shit as well since you can trade down outside of the cap
and you're not far off hitting 900 hero
exotic perch
but ye nightmare weekly true is one
also ?? is so piss easy its insane
i did that as resto and afked basically for 10 mins
hilarious
eager raft
Yeah I just mathed it out and I’m 200 hero crests off the hero achiev
So I could get it tmrw if I downgrade some mythic
lucid olive
and doing that on an alt
doubles the value of your mains hero crests
idk how people are saying "midnight falls isn't going to be as easy" when Liquid are gonna walk in there with 283 average ilvl
if it's hard for Liquid and Echo it will be impossible for everybody else until it gets nerfed/stacked enough raid buff dmg amp
lofty depot
Yea that shits dead Wednesday before echo walk in
wild dune
dude making a thumbnail like this for a 100 viewer +10 upload is crazy work
its just AI slop man
bottle of water and 10 seconds on grok
leaden birch
I would respect the hustle if that wasn't AI garbage
wild dune
hopefully its buffed to the moon and its a tindral/fyrakk situation
exotic perch
midnight falls might be under 100 purely figuring out the new mechanics
lucid olive
which is less than dragon boss
wild dune
i wanna see rwf suffer
pseudo merlin
I would respect the hustle if that wasn't AI garbage
real
eager raft
yeah beloren is supposed to be like chim/saladhar difficulty
exotic perch
i can see the rotating beam with the symbols being a learning curve
lucid olive
chimaerus having a hall of fame is biggest joke ever
can't wait for someone to say they're hof raider at wr 600 chimaerus
exotic perch
wdym we are slayers of the undreamt god
my guild was on top the rwf for half a day baby we earned it
lucid olive
we wiped on like 2% on thursday and wouldve been wr50 or something
killed it yesterday for wr 210
eager raft
I’ll be rocking that stolen valor hof title
exotic perch
even funnier was the liquid broadcast being very confused thinking we were the chinese alpha
pseudo merlin
can't wait for someone to say they're hof raider at wr 600 chimaerus
wait wdym wr600
leaden birch
any nameplate profiles you guys are liking rn? jundies platynator looks nice but it kinda frustrates me when nameplates are constantly overlapping
pseudo merlin
isnt it closing this week
lofty depot
any nameplate profiles you guys are liking rn? jundies platynator looks nice but...
Add spacing to them then
leaden birch
like a gross amount
lofty depot
HOF is just top 200 + the rest of that reset no ?
Yes
eager raft
HOF is just top 200 + the rest of that reset no ?
chim has its own hof and is piss easy
lucid olive
HOF is just top 200 + the rest of that reset no ?
438 kills so far
leaden birch
but when stuff is moving about it feels slow
lofty depot
The leaderboard just shows 200 tho
exotic perch
the hardest part of chimerus is kicking the adds in intermission lol
lucid olive
yeah the official WoW website shows top 200
pseudo merlin
You mean the only part
eager raft
There will be guilds that get chim hof that are like world 800 midnight falls
exotic perch
i mean people not dpsing the big add could be hard
lofty depot
There will be guilds that get chim hof that are like world 800 midnight falls
There are guilds that were 1500 manaforge that got hof chim
pseudo merlin
😂
lucid olive
you wanna stop dmg on big add so you don't break the shield early
you want him to phase to topside with you
pseudo merlin
just make the add go top and then have the melee cleave it
exotic perch
its so awful for everyone else
eager raft
I can’t remember, are the interrupt adds in p1 in mythic
lucid olive
the big add also stops moving during the consume
pseudo merlin
if by p1 you mean outside of intermission
eager raft
Like first 2 down groups
I know for sure they’re in intermission and after intermission
But can’t remember if they’re there the whole fight
lucid olive
ngl i dont hate the raid being easier
same
lofty depot
But can’t remember if they’re there the whole fight
P sure it's just the shitters + hulk in the down phase
lucid olive
said in TC discord as well that RWF players slowly realize who Blizzard makes the game for
pseudo merlin
I can’t remember, are the interrupt adds in p1 in mythic
no
lofty depot
Then intermission has the casters
lucid olive
wonder if that upset some of the RWF players in there..
eager raft
Ok yeah that’s what I thought
pseudo merlin
idk why theyre not
eager raft
And you only need to do 1 of the down groups after intermission
So you only deal with like 3 per group
pseudo merlin
just for interrupts yeah
eager raft
They for sure should have them throughout the whole fight
Literally nothing else going on
pseudo merlin
no we killed first set of adds post intermission i think
second group went in for interrupts only
lofty depot
Rank 1 parses are gonna be the people that get chosen to flip sides
Getting 2 waves of adds, op
primal patrol
does coach's whistle work for balance as wowhead says? Do sims account for this?
pseudo merlin
I like this tier but parsing is jank as fuck
lucid olive
does coach's whistle work for balance as wowhead says? Do sims account for this?
yes to both
lofty depot
It got nerfed tho
pseudo merlin
it was crazy for sp
lofty depot
So u don't need to and shouldnt be using it
exotic perch
wonder if that upset some of the RWF players in there..
just need a separate tournament realm for them
standard tuning for us
digital berry
parsing is dogshit every tier where there are low hp adds that explode
exotic perch
some crazy version for them on tourny
let em get perfect gear and such so no splits
lucid olive
just need a separate tournament realm for them
nah i don't think that's better for anybody
pseudo merlin
balls live 3 seconds
lucid olive
tournament realm would mean blizzard having to organize and police it
and they are notoriously dogshit every time they do that
exotic perch
that is extra work true lol
lucid olive
just look at every MDI when theres drama cause one team uses a random profession flask or something
pseudo merlin
and they are notoriously dogshit every time they do that
counterpoint they would have to worry less about quick tuning and hotfixes due to RWF shenanigans on live right
lucid olive
like who tf cares
pseudo merlin
might be a net neutral
exotic perch
everyone outside of like top 20-30 world hates the rwf tuning though
eager raft
second group went in for interrupts only
You can just sac the group 2 tank in p2
So no one else has to go down and kick
I’m pretty sure
lucid olive
counterpoint they would have to worry less about quick tuning and hotfixes due t...
idk how worried they actually are about that..
pseudo merlin
You can just sac the group 2 tank in p2
oh - I guess
lucid olive
also midnight falls isnt even the endboss of the tier
pseudo merlin
idk how worried they actually are about that..
oh yeah i dont think they'd ever do this
lucid olive
there's another new raid in like 10 weeks or something
lucid olive
we're at like week 4 of expansion now right
pseudo merlin
there's another new raid in like 10 weeks or something
???????
Oh there's a mid raid with 1 boss?
lofty depot
Uhhh, something like that
lucid olive
yeah in 0.7
lofty depot
Maybe 3rd
pseudo merlin
I completely forgot about that
lucid olive
8 weeks between every patch is their usual patch cadence they've followed since start of DF
so if we're at week 4 now that means 0.5 is 4 weeks away
- 8 weeks from 0.5 to 0.7 means 12 weeks for new raid
royal zenith
Almost time for the new expansion
pseudo merlin
dude