is there a cap on catalyst catchup
#balance
bleak kiln
And is it just me or is our ST better than aoe? I'm constantly behind on aoe but not on ST
In m+
bleak kiln
Maybe shit dies too quick on a 10 idk
drifting nova
st is surpisingly not bad
but aoe compared to other classes seems bad
and/or too much ramp
hunters and mages will drop 200k in half a second
having to rely on starfall and not starfire
bleak kiln
Elune's guidance being removed kinda ass lol
lofty depot
Elune's guidance being removed kinda ass lol
?
lofty depot
dont appropriate my talents
lucid olive
apex talents consumed elunes chosen
wdym
nvm i thought you meant a bug in the game
disregard
tribal wedge
would need to actually see the key played
stark meteor
+8 magisters terrace, died once
is there a way to get a replay of the key or do i just have to actually record that lmao
tribal wedge
uhhh you can log keys
stark meteor
wait you can??
tribal wedge
basic idea is make sure you're not wasting globals, make sure you're not using starsurge or something in more than 2 targets, try to always have either an eclipse or incarn stack
drifting nova
similar overall in an algathar but we were dropping like flies
tanks over pulling
smh
tribal wedge
this is only a +2 MT but this is my breakdown doing about 90k overall
I played pretty bad in this key as well
dull dust
how are u doing 90k in a 2
tribal wedge
oh yea, since ur running orbit breaker always have all dots up on most pulls
dull dust
are the other dps afk
dull dust
stark meteor
im on my phone now
worth saying I swapped over from survival hunter to balance druid this expansion so im used to pressing 4 buttons
feel like it's definitely a me problem
tribal wedge
I had to get used to starweaver build, I was getting baited by free starsurge procs in AoE, kills damage, just use the global on another starfall
I only ever starsurge if I am somehow out of AP
but with this build we are running on EC u are basically perma capped
stark meteor
i dont wanna talk about my raid parses
kindred token
@lucid olive Is there some kind of kind of macro to use with trinket with other abilities?
tribal wedge
lol I've only done lfr since I'm not in guild
drifting nova
how are u doing 90k in a 2
you pull like 400mobs
tribal wedge
raid parses also are really dependent on your group, if the group kills fast and you get PI or something, that will boost ur parse a bunch
drifting nova
oh yea, since ur running orbit breaker always have all dots up on most pulls
you what
drifting nova
raid parses also are really dependent on your group, if the group kills fast and...
I said that once and got flamed
stark meteor
is there any good way to apply moonfire in those giant pulls aside from moonfire as everything is pulled
dull dust
pi is for losers
tribal wedge
flamed for running orbit breaker? XD?
dull dust
if u get pi u should get ur v card reinstalled
drifting nova
no for saying a well organised group that kills a boss in X- mins
tribal wedge
is there any good way to apply moonfire in those giant pulls aside from moonfire...
nah just as everything is getting pulled, 100% should work like sunfire but oh well
drifting nova
will parse better than X time for another group
stark meteor
only worth reapplying to big adds?
tribal wedge
no for saying a well organised group that kills a boss in X- mins
ohyea, raid parses are so dumb since if u are in trash raid then u look like a shitter, but if u get funneled and kill quickly ur a god
stark meteor
that's also the issue im having
drifting nova
ohyea, raid parses are so dumb since if u are in trash raid then u look like a s...
was a manaforge normal I did on my druid when I was gearing that had 2 or 3 giga geared players, by doing NOTHING new parsed 10-15higher just doing the bosses
kindred token
What do you guys use for macro with trinket?
drifting nova
stark meteor
once everything is pulled it's already 1/4 dead lol
dull dust
the problem is people usually arnt playing well enough that that would be the differnce
tribal wedge
#showtooltip Incarnation: Chosen of Elune
/cast Incarnation: Chosen of Elune(Talent, Shapeshift)
/use Light's Potential
/use 13
dull dust
which is why we log review
drifting nova
always padmax
tribal wedge
What do you guys use for macro with trinket?
that is my macro for when my on use is in the top slot
drifting nova
paladin in my guild always padmaxes, only way he gets 90s (probably idk)
I'm onto him
kindred token
that is my macro for when my on use is in the top slot
Thank you 🙂
stark meteor
is boomie damage taking time to ramp up real or a meme
drifting nova
real
drifting nova
its worse now
tribal wedge
nahhh
tribal wedge
it was way worse previous xpacs since we literally had to dot everything because of how mastery worked
if u didnt u were out on like 15% dmg
esp if u ran waning twilight
stark meteor
statwise should i focus mastery, haste, then crit and versatility?
tribal wedge
have to sim
most of the time haste mastery best, but some people crit stack as well
stark meteor
i don't know how to read that or use the result honestly
ive done it and didn't really get what i was looking at
also a me issue
tribal wedge
yea, I mean if you are free sometime, I could hop in a call with u and show uhow to sim
its super easy
stark meteor
do you sub out pieces of gear for other pieces/stat lineups?
tribal wedge
like are you asking if I have multiple sets for certain dungeons or something?
or are you asking about simming and swapping out the pieces?
@stark meteor I have to get off for now, but I will be on in about 2 hours, if you're on and want some tips on gameplay / simming and stuff lmk and I can show u real quick
stark meteor
i should be!
stark meteor
or are you asking about simming and swapping out the pieces?
simming and swapping pieces lol
tribal wedge
k yea just DM me and I'll hit you up
topaz basin
hi how good is
Emerald Coach's Whistle rn? D:
lucid olive
hi how good is
Emerald Coach's Whistle rn? D:
its okay
fair halo
Hey, noobie question, What my ST rotation should looks like on M+? (on bosses)
Should i use Wrath or starfire as mine generator? (Cause there is only lunar Eclipse and Hero talents boost Arcane dmg)
Should i use mine procs of Touch of cosmos for Starsurge or Starfall?
(As i said, completly noobie question, i picked up Bala in this season)
lucid olive
Press Wrath on ST if you're outside of Eclipse
with the 
Lunar Calling talent from Elune's Chosen hero tree
spend Cosmos procs on Starsurge
alternatively can read any of the guides linked in the pinned message
fair halo
okay, thanks <3
feral pine
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pNFdvj7aAgx4RTMB?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=6&start=102580111&end=102587946
can anyone tell me what im doing wrong dmg wise here?
lucid olive
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pNFdvj7aAgx4RTMB?fight=last&type=damage-don...
what, in that 7 second window you linked or the whole key?
lucid olive
theres just massive gaps in your casts
idk if you die or you panic or what
like here i assume you approach a pack since theres a big wait before a Moonfire cast
and you spend 10 seconds pressing 4 Moonfires and 1 Sunfire
You should also press Fury of Elune either off cooldown or on the global before Incarn
So if youre approaching a pack with both abilities up you spread Moonfire -> Sunfire when stacked -> FoE -> Incarn at the end of the GCD -> Starfall
you cut your Eclipse short here for no real reason
also taking a long time to spread dots, same issue as above
feral pine
you cut your Eclipse short here for no real reason
wdym?
lucid olive
Starsurge on the Krick & Ick 2 target boss unless the totem adds are up
lucid olive
>you cut your Eclipse short here for no real reason
wdym?
Eclipse lasts 15 seconds
you pressed Incarn after 6 ish
feral pine
Ah i should have waited for eclipse to end beofre incarn
lucid olive
CA/Incarn cancels your current Eclipse and gives you a new one
yeah you generally don't want to CA/Incarn when already in Eclipse
unless your Eclipse CD is sitting on 2 charges for a long time
feral pine
Makes sense, thanks
obsidian fox
Anywhere I can check for best talent depending on the raid boss in Midnight?
lucid olive
warcraftlogs
lucid olive
Makes sense, thanks
pressed 4 Sunfires here in like a 18 second window
In general I think you got the basics down, just need to maybe gain some confidence and build up muscle memory
Maybe go into like a follower dungeon or some AoE target dummies and just practice efficiently dotting
The first 5-8 seconds of a pull on Moonkin is essentially playing nameplate whack-a-mole with Moonfire
and the reason I say you got the basics down is because you're actually using utility stuff
The rest will just come naturally as you build up muscle memory with rotation
digital berry
do yall know if theres a way in talent loadout ex to make each talent page also save action bars?
digital berry
yeah but default blizzard has a limited amount of pages and the cap is shared amont specs
feral pine
The rest will just come naturally as you build up muscle memory with rotation
thanks alot ❤️
lucid olive
yeah but default blizzard has a limited amount of pages and the cap is shared am...
yeah but how many action bar setups do you need 😭
heavy iris
no shot spriest gets buffed like that
ripe slate
sudden pawn
digital berry
no changes for balance this week
sudden pawn
nice epic embed fail
lucid olive
balance is fine
dont think it needs either buffs or nerfs
if you think you need buffs maybe consider its a skill issue
heavy iris
it's definitely on the lower end of m+ in comparison to other classes
craggy sonnet
they dont care about m+ yet
lucid olive
thats made up
kindred shoal
What you think from balance in m+ ?
craggy sonnet
even if that would be the case
digital berry
i was just hoping for some changes to phase out having to use FOE on kotg
lucid olive
sort by second boss
sort by deaths
digital berry
i really do not like that
lucid olive
your class is sick
lucid olive
you dont have to
dull dust
bars biggest
lucid olive
FoE sims close to bunch of passive talents
dull dust
therefore best
lucid olive
its just another low value talent you take cause its less bad than the other low value talent
royal zenith
95th percentile all mythic bosses
cunning ocean
just revert moonkin changes
royal zenith
curious
cunning ocean
current is not it
lost belfry
hey folks, are scripts for changing nameplate colour on whether moonfire is applied all gone?
lucid olive
yes you cant do that anymore
half stump
Hey everyone, i'm trying to figure out a macro to cast eclipse then turning into solar back to wrath but i'm having a hard time, do any of you have it? It would be like a single button eclipse into wrath pretty much
lucid olive
what do you mean "cast eclipse then turning into solar"
also you can't macro two spells together when they are both on the GCD
half stump
all i want is a single button solar eclipse into wrath sort of thing
like a cast sequence
lofty depot
thats not a thing
lucid olive
just have one button for eclipse and another for wrath or
pseudo merlin
man
lucid olive
what you want doesnt really save you a button either since you would want the same thing for Lunar and Starfire
pseudo merlin
my spec just cant keep winning
craggy sonnet
i was just hoping for some changes to phase out having to use FOE on kotg
actually sims worse on my end than umbral
half stump
i cooked this but its a bit inconsistent: /castsequence reset=15 Lunar Eclipse, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath
lofty depot
i think this is worse than the guy from yesterday
lucid olive
i have a feeling you have misunderstood what the Eclipse spell does
but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
craggy sonnet
i thought you cant even macro "lunar eclipse"
half stump
it just come to my attention that its a button now after playing since day 1 of expantion 😭
delicate perch
but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
I won't
half stump
i'm tryin to put it into my wrath and starfire macro somehow
lofty depot
id suggest u know... finding a bind and pressing it instead of doing some imalgamation of "a cook"
misty forge
But but why?
royal zenith
midnight is producing some interesting stuff
lucid olive
i cooked this but its a bit inconsistent: /castsequence reset=15 Lunar Eclipse, ...
why does it say Lunar Eclipse at the start
if your last filler cast was Wrath
you can not enter Lunar
craggy sonnet
ec gaming
lucid olive
so spamming this button will either stop or keep casting Wrath after the reset?
misty forge
Cuz why not
shell basin
Hey guys, back from the game after 2 year break. What addons is a must to have? Im gonna play keys mostly, i've been looking at plater profiles and weakaurs, but i cant find any that seems to be uppgraded for Midnight, any tips? thank you
lofty depot
"buh buhhh it says to wrath"
lucid olive
its incredible the lenghts people go through to avoid playing their spec
lofty depot
Hey guys, back from the game after 2 year break. What addons is a must to have? ...
jundies is good plater/platynator
wild dune
one button is there for a reason xd
misty forge
Chuck in moonfire and sunfire in there while you’re at it
shell basin
jundies is good plater/platynator
Thank you
spice roost
im ramping
lucid olive
Hey guys, back from the game after 2 year break. What addons is a must to have? ...
There's a portion in #1473018731687841853 about addons
spice roost
almost still got 2 raid days to go
lofty depot
holy
shell basin
There's a portion in <#1473018731687841853> about addons
Oh, thanks
shell basin
Weakauras is gone
oh what, alright, thats why the addond didint work lol
lucid olive
and the alternative is a plethora of random addons that all do more or less the same things in regards to the Blizzard default cooldown manager
there are so many choices there it would be disingenous to recommend one over another
spice roost
one foot in grave?
dull dust
shell basin
there are so many choices there it would be disingenous to recommend one over an...
Yeah ofc. Thanks dude
spice roost
lol
lucid olive
im ramping
damn you would be like tied for rank 15 ilvl in my raid
spice roost
lol
exotic perch
bruh im 264
lucid olive
i was number 1 yesterday 😭
exotic perch
you guys are getting so lucky getting all the m+ loot
half stump
thats insane
exotic perch
i havent gotten shit from my last like 8 dungeons
half stump
and i'm here still stuck how to put my eclipses into wrath and starfire as a macro 😭
exotic perch
and the 2 items i did get prior to that were not good
lucid olive
and i'm here still stuck how to put my eclipses into wrath and starfire as a mac...
yeah i mean
you're stuck at something thats not possible
you never answered my question either
half stump
why does it say Lunar Eclipse at the start
i mispelled it was mean to be solar
dull dust
i was number 1 yesterday 😭
nerds fr
lucid olive
ok how many keys
lucid olive
i've done 12
lucid olive
did 12 keys before wednesday raid
lucid olive
done 12 keys, raided two nights and filled in craft orders..
lucid olive
i dont have mythic loot yet tho
yeah me neither
only killed vorasius
dropped dogshit
pseudo merlin
ye same
stone ledge
Ravec learning that gear stacking exists
molten yoke
is crafting myth staff worth?
lofty depot
do u like doing damage
molten yoke
yus
lofty depot
then upgrading ur weapon is probably the biuggest upgrade
kindred token
then upgrading ur weapon is probably the biuggest upgrade
lol
molten yoke
i need my 4th spark wtf man
hexed nacelle
is there an alternative to an opposite faction healer requesting innervate other than voice callout?
lofty depot
i need my 4th spark wtf man
why r u missing one
molten yoke
idk
hexed nacelle
our RL told him he was cluttering up comms
lofty depot
smh didnt atlk to the solo guy in the innkeepers room
lofty depot
our RL told him he was cluttering up comms
tell ur rl to grow up
ornate girder
fresh grotto
Hi Guys, Noob Balance Druid here LF some guidance 🤣. LF a good build and a good rotation . I think i have it but My dps always start really good and by the end of the dungeon I always end low . LF tips and Advice plz really humble petition No hate plz
lofty depot
have u read the guide
fresh grotto
First time in this server sorry what guide?
fresh grotto
Ohh yes yes. Wowhead guide.
tough olive
Do we want to use Dungeon slice if we are interested in possibly simming for m+ ?
lean bone
I have read through the guides, but I am confused on one thing. Specifically in mythic keys. Is star surge our button we press even on single target boss?
No wraths? Except say during opener to quickly build astral
fair mist
I kind of hate using vessel trinket
tough olive
No wraths
normal pilot
there's no way to sim for m+ atm. maybe later in the tier
tough olive
there's no way to sim for m+ atm. maybe later in the tier
thanks 🙂
stoic fog
fair mist
Assume you’re getting unlucky trinkets in raid. What m+ trinket combo are you farming and please don’t tell me vessel or I’ll cry
midnight bough
HOW IS THIS LEGAL
normal pilot
sell to vendor for 3 to 1 recipe reroll
lucid olive
Why are you doing that much content that drops champ gear?
Nah gotta fill out every slot with champ, and then with hero. That's the blizzard intended gear progression 
delicate perch
on it
rough flax
sell to vendor for 3 to 1 recipe reroll
The recipe is 5 
lean bone
Wow dream Grove just helped me out so much
So a little confusion though, if I cast eclipse, and then celestial, is that bad? Because we don't want to sit on CA being off cd
I'm just confused if they rewrite each other
dull dust
thats 6 too many
or 7
craggy sonnet
I'm just confused if they rewrite each other
you can overwrite ecl with ca/incarn, yes
lean bone
And is this okay to do in the opener to get CA on cool down??
craggy sonnet
generally you dont want to waste uptime of any ecl source (eclipse,ca,incarn) .. exception can be if you are already sitting on max charges of incarn
craggy sonnet
and if you want to do that long opener with incarn, then you come out of incarn with your ecl charge basically replenished anyways
dull dust
someone ban him
craggy sonnet
though if you dont want to bother, you can also straight up pool for the big burst and rip the incarn and ignore eclipse sitting at max
teal sphinx
someone ban him
no
also
thanks for the buffs again! ill have to mail your dad Mr. Blizzard some baked goods for buffing arms again
delicate perch
copper gate
Do you guys ever wonder if Paul Atreides would be a boomkin main
drifting nova
whomst
mighty mica
dune protag
drifting nova
mr shallymay?
carmine vessel
Any one available for some insight?
259 boomkin no tier yet ( terrible luck. not for lack of trying)
my Single target DPS is not half bad at a 259 i lvl. im doing pretty ok and im top 5 on most heroic fights. the problem is MYTHIC PLUS..... I switch over to my M+ spec and my DPS is DISMALL. almost every DPS can whoop my butt. I use methods talents and wowhead and ic ant figure its out. its so frustrating.
toon is Itallia on stormrage
drifting nova
idk I liked the series alot more than either movie so
drifting nova
Any one available for some insight?
259 boomkin no tier yet ( terrible luck. not...
no tier is balls (I am also 1p)
frigid stream
Any one available for some insight?
259 boomkin no tier yet ( terrible luck. not...
I have 4p 268 and I am feeling the same friend, I fall behind a lot of classes in m+ (10keys) A lot of it is just how hard a lot of classes bursts so smaller mobs will just insta die and you lose out on a lot of dmg from this. I recommend playing Keeper with Convoke over choosen of elune, for more burst on all pulls
icy palm
Is there any reason to delay an eclipse/CA to not waste a Starlord proc, or should I be trying to maintain 100% eclipse uptime?
lucid olive
You can't maintain 100% eclipse uptime
You want to build AP and resource between every time you use Eclipse or CA unless either of them is currently sitting at 2 charges
On pull it's a little different where one of them will be held for a bit since both are on 2 charges
icy palm
Apologies if it's a dumb question but I'm pretty new to raiding and boomkin in general
drifting nova
can I buy some pre 4set damage pls
dull dust
no
dull dust
the what
drifting nova
the build
dull dust
dull dust
gamz doing a funny
carmine vessel
I have 4p 268 and I am feeling the same friend, I fall behind a lot of classes i...
ill look into that, thank you!
lean bone
though if you dont want to bother, you can also straight up pool for the big bur...
So just open with wrath dots, CA, use 3 procs of my empower Starfall or surge
lucid olive
been shroomless this entier time
Get owned
Just gonna swap around the last node between all the random 1% talents in the tree every week and witness the meltdown
delicate perch
guys I just bricked my +3 because the guide didn't have shrooms who do I blame
lyric kettle
delicate perch
drifting nova
guys I just bricked my +3 because the guide didn't have shrooms who do I blame
I DID MY 8 RESPECT MY NAME
drifting nova
tbf I think the squish from df also made keys easier
but I didnt massivley do keys prior to then
dreamy cove
no shrooms one fewer random debuff that shows up
craggy sonnet
So just open with wrath dots, CA, use 3 procs of my empower Starfall or surge
prepull wraths, dots, wraths to build enough ap for 3 spenders in ca/incarn, (foe), fon, ca/incarn, spend
wintry widget
i dont think ive used new moon since legion i just realized
i do not like it
i will avoid it
always
covert coyote
turn new moon into collapsing star
carmine vessel
so i jsut did this one and im in a 5 nexus amd the dps is WAYAAYYY better
CYGA8cL7tpvige+kkmGM9zUPWDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNMmZgxsMzMzMLMgZZmlZWMzMWYZmlxMjxGGAMW2mZwY2GBmAAAAswMzMD2MmxYAAYmBGA
covert coyote
so i jsut did this one and im in a 5 nexus amd the dps is WAYAAYYY better
looks identical to the build everyone uses thats on wowhead
dull dust
Holy
carmine vessel
*shrug looks diffferent to me than the spec is aved from wowhead at the begining of midnight
so i figured id try it and its doing much better
its THE greatest but obvious difference so ill take ti
lean bone
prepull wraths, dots, wraths to build enough ap for 3 spenders in ca/incarn, (fo...
Foe and fon stand for?
craggy sonnet
trees being force of nature
lean bone
prepull wraths, dots, wraths to build enough ap for 3 spenders in ca/incarn, (fo...
Force of nature or force of elune my bad
fiery kindle
hello
covert coyote
sup
lean bone
And if this was for AOE mythic pulls obviously we don't wrath right?
covert coyote
wat
bleak kiln
Stupid question, but is every raid boss the same talent build?
fiery kindle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i8zVFBJFD1QjtyxLHBNui6
which prefer wrist/waist/back
anyone knows?
i think cat back is good but idk
arctic i need ur help i guess
xD
- i will change gem, dont look at gems pls -
delicate perch
craggy sonnet
And if this was for AOE mythic pulls obviously we don't wrath right?
yea, sure
viral cliff
for the un edumacated like myself. how in the hell does a boomkin do Nullaeus ??
Healer valeera doesnt kick. meme beam even with talent doesnt come up fast enough
you cant dispell yourself as tank,
tank valeera just does like no dps and falls over
is there some goofy ass tech of running tank valeera with boomkin and sacrificing a chicken?
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i8zVFBJFD1QjtyxLHBNui6
which prefer wrist...
vers is yucky
bleak kiln
for the un edumacated like myself. how in the hell does a boomkin do Nullaeus ??...
Someone posted a vod of them doing it in here earlier I believe
lofty depot
should be more worried about this
viral cliff
Someone posted a vod of them doing it in here earlier I believe
like im genuinely curious because I have no fucking idea
my brain is going run bear and healer valeera 
lofty depot
for the un edumacated like myself. how in the hell does a boomkin do Nullaeus ??...
u play healer valeera as tank
lofty depot
10ish
viral cliff
I assume its mantle + nulltide? for curios?
lofty depot
blud like "i cant kill it please help"
gives help
"yea im not doing that"
lofty depot
idk, i don think it matters
viral cliff
I want meme beam to not be a meme 🥲
drifting nova
did you mean starfire
lofty depot
who
shell basin
Hey guys, returning player. For proffesions (playing pve) if i want to craft a high level staff when i get full level, do i need to be be inscription to be able to craft it, or can someone else craft it for me? Aln'hara Cane
delicate perch
you can get someone else to do it
shell basin
Oh alright, nice. So what proffesions would you recomend to have or is nice to have? If idont have to think about crafting gear
delicate perch
professions are mostly not that useful outside of gold making/saving
but alchemy lets you have increased flask duration and enchanting lets you de gear for more gold than it vendors for
shell basin
Alright, cool. Thanks dude
dull dust
6
drifting nova
y u lie
dull dust
mabey 7
drifting nova
11 has myth smh
viral cliff
we all want a lot of things
I hate that this is the way to do it wiped at like 10% immediately after switching
will probably kill it next pull but good god
lofty depot
just save cds for after the intermissions
is easier
i think i sent cd on the 2nd intermission to kill them
then gagin, probably depends on ilvl
bleak kiln
Do we starfall on double dragon boss in raid? Besides for adds ofc
lofty depot
that was an early problem of not having damage to kill the adds so using it as a defensive as well
lofty depot
Do we starfall on double dragon boss in raid? Besides for adds ofc
no, surge
bleak kiln
not sure if I should be spending on surge or starfall
drifting nova
its so wrong starfall is bad on 2t
bleak kiln
kk
ivory barn
is this ever a spell i should use?
lofty depot
the fuck is that
ivory barn
idunno some kerian racial spell or whatever XD
lofty depot
so were not in sl anymore so
ivory barn
So thats a no use then XD
somber path
you can bind it to another heal that doesnt use gcd
bout it
you will never use thorn bllom for dam cause its bad
bleak kiln
the fuck is that
Haranir racial
okay but starfall on pala boss = good yea?
u still play keeper on that fight even?
lofty depot
if ur in range sure
dull dust
arctic do i finish my vault tonight or finish what i was doing on apl
normal pilot
neither farm some housing xp
lofty depot
is it ec aoe apl or
lofty depot
vault
dull dust
in general
lofty depot
aoe apl is for the m+ers and we hate them
lofty depot
who
normal pilot
i hope you make it better than kotg
normal pilot
i hope so
bleak kiln
ugh lost roll for 4 set to a dude with 3 alts
feels so so annoying to lose rolls to people that raid in 3 different guilds with 3 different alts
lofty depot
nah i mean get ur starfalls up then trees 🙂
dull dust
do i even bother with tree lines for ec
or do we just point and laugh at people who link those sims
dull dust
ik
but side story
i guess i could just make them cast ddurring downtime or something
lyric lynx
I just read wowhead guide and the compendium for boomy AOE Elune's Chosen rotation and im left wondering??? Are we legit never casting wrath on bosses during keys? we are casting starfire on single target fights as astral power generator ?
dull dust
surely they are shit
raven obsidian
Hello everyone can someone tell me if what a boomkin should prioritize with teh sparks weapon or other item ? please ping my name to not miss your comments thanks
lofty depot
staff
dull dust
every caster and their mom is crafting staff
analog moat
I just read wowhead guide and the compendium for boomy AOE Elune's Chosen rotati...
That is my understanding, yes.
lyric lynx
That is my understanding, yes.
Wow, ok thank you .
normal pilot
smh nobody cool enough to craft mace
normal pilot
is it ec?
normal pilot
sad
red nymph
not sure if this is a known bug, but the champ pieces i Catalyzed, turned into hero transmog when fully upgraded
normal pilot
ok no foe is a W
manic arch
Hey yall.. question? With the new rotation how are you building astral power when you start at 0. Let's say you are at the beginning of seat and they are grabbing the big pull. How do you get astral up so you can eclipse and push the 3 star falls for Ascendance and starlord?
dull dust
amen
manic arch
Im missing something on AOE
merry ibex
Am I missing something? Why are keeper builds running elune
candid merlin
What talent makes it so I only have lunar eclipse and not solar?
red nymph
Am I missing something? Why are keeper builds running elune
cause it sims better than other talents
analog moat
What talent makes it so I only have lunar eclipse and not solar?
Lunar Calling
candid merlin
Lunar Calling
Thanks! Apparently I cant read lol
analog moat
np lol
red nymph
its weird that its closed considering the set bonus
normal pilot
maybe it's bugged
normal pilot
er idk
normal pilot
EC 📈
normal pilot
only bug with AA is the 1.5% buff to normal wrath
drifting lagoon
what are the main tools that i have for survivability/defenses in EC? I know theres Barkskin but what are the general tools you guys use if doing solo content?
dull dust
BY A LOT
normal pilot
but that barely makes a diff
dull dust
HOLY SHITTT
normal pilot
maybe moonkin is saved by elune
dull dust
@lofty depot thoughts
lofty depot
what are the main tools that i have for survivability/defenses in EC? I know the...
bear form
heart of hte wild
press n play bear
lofty depot
oinly 109k dont care
drifting lagoon
bear form
are there certain cooldowns or things that are usuable in bear from or do you swap to bear just to get the tankiness and use thrash/mangle for dmg?
red nymph
<:hmmge:1015313814624931951>
rattle good EC
wild dune
do not tell kekkers
dull dust
drifting lagoon
as a new player to druid overall i know there are some instances where you can swap to a different form just for one button or movement mechanics, but i wasnt sure if you're swapping forms for prolonged periods of time as well with certain specs
normal pilot
nah form shifting isn't really a core mechanic
it's more of a nuisance
it just makes the gameplay worse cuz you have to press 2 keys
dull dust
prepull 5 regrowths
wild dune
wild dune
hahahahhahaha
drifting lagoon
cause if i'm doing solo content in balance and i dont instantly melt the target or if i am fighting a rare and my prey target shows up i die pretty quickly
if barkskin isnt enough and i cant create distance with wild charge
so in those instances, swapping to bear and just chilling there and basically playing guardian druid till they die?
normal pilot
or better yet just play guardian from the start
red nymph
ill happily take a .8% damage cut to not play the most unsufferable druid build to ever exist
analog moat
cause if i'm doing solo content in balance and i dont instantly melt the target ...
You're honsetly better off playing guardian spec in solo world activities.
drifting lagoon
i have been playing guardian spec pretty much the whole xpac right now but im too new to the game to trust myself tanking in end game content so wanted to learn balance
so i should probably just try to learn balance in random heroics i guess?
normal pilot
no don't worry tanking is easy, esp low level dungeons
just rush into it
if you fail that's fine learn something and get right into the next dungeon
drifting lagoon
im completely blind to all the dungeons, so wanted to at least get some experience in them with a lower responsibility job like ranged dps
normal pilot
nah low dungeons you can just press W and walk thru it
you're overestimating the responsibility for starting dungeons
wild dune
Lower keys even highlight mobs for you to pull for proper count.
drifting lagoon
for now if i want to learn to play balance properly i assume just stick to instanced content?
bleak kiln
are y'all saving incarn and treants for add phase on vorasius?
normal pilot
ya there's nothing to learn about a spec from solo content
bleak kiln
if I press on cd I dont have incarn up for 2nd set of adds
agile wraith
Hey all, hope the seasons treating y'all well. is there any write ups about the theorycrafting and sim data of embellishments for Balance?
normal pilot
i don't think anyone's given that much effort to something so inconsequential
quiet citrus
Elunes chosen m+, whats the minimum targets to start starfalling over surge? is it 2/3? Also out of Eclipse do I still starfire ST or wrath?
normal pilot
compendium might have a string about the various embellishments you can use if you want to sim yourself
but these days it's relaitvely simple to add embellishments to top gear and just sim your character
sage axle
what m+ to get myth crests
chat gpt said +7 but i didnt get any than lol
i hate trusting chat gpt
covert coyote
chat gpt loves you and would never lie to you
quiet citrus
what m+ to get myth crests
9+
u can do an 11 delve for cracked keystone also. u get 20 from then doing any key. plus another 30 from killing ?? delve boss.
How many cleave targets to start starfalling on Elunes Chosen? Not sure If I should be sending starfalls on 2 target boss fights 😒
lofty depot
3
analog moat
I get you ss on two do you just alternate between both?
lofty depot
ye
analog moat
Ok.
lyric lynx
I'm a joke in ST dungeons as Elune's Chosen. tell me its a skill issue and not how its meant to be.
obsidian girder
yes
lofty depot
I'm a joke in ST dungeons as Elune's Chosen. tell me its a skill issue and not h...
skill issue
quiet citrus
I'm a joke in ST dungeons as Elune's Chosen. tell me its a skill issue and not h...
St generally the thing is cranks on tbh
lyric lynx
St generally the thing is cranks on tbh
So in keys, using Elune's chosen aoe build, when you're on a boss fight(1 target) you deal a lot of dmg?
lyric lynx
ok. i'm doing like almost top dmg in aoe but on bosses. im like always 3rd or just above tank. i'll keep tryin though
thx
obsidian girder
hmmm. its the opposite for me
spice roost
bad or?
lofty depot
No boomie does top dps on packs
wanna bet?
lyric lynx
^ yea thats what i be doing too. in ST boses in keys, im like near the DK
maybe it will change when i get 4 set
heavy iris
that's what you're doing in keys without 4 set?
best player in the world right here tbh
spice roost
ive done 500k on first pull at end
drifting nova
whats that 3rd dps
spice roost
aa
drifting nova
never seen that before
spice roost
exactly
spice roost
shits dying tofast in 10s now
drifting nova
by the time I get 4p 10s will be like heroics
spice roost
on crown heroic does starfall hit 3 big adds the whole first phase of fight
aswell as the other adds and boss
@lofty depot
im looking at logs and wondering
cause that would be really good sw value
cursive mirage
first pull pit lock in
sorry you just play with bums
idk
our warlock said "i'm going to just dick around and play aff this key so probably trolling" and then proceeded to do the absolute most damage of all time
lofty depot
on crown heroic does starfall hit 3 big adds the whole first phase of fight
if u sit in the middle sure
dull dust
every day i strive to make boomkins lives harder
lofty depot
our warlock said "i'm going to just dick around and play aff this key so probabl...
think most dhs are doing around 130-150 depending on key
sooo like
dull dust
spice barn
I dont understand why we dont want to cast fury of elune during incarn on single target but for multi you cant to cast it before incarn
stone ledge
during on st cause you dont have as many dots running for passive ap generation so you want the full coverage. in aoe you just want to throw starfalls until you are empty at start of eclipse
muted remnant
Just to check in: Whenever entering Eclipse (doesn't matter which) first spell should always be Starfire?
cursive mirage
every day i strive to make boomkins lives harder
dull dust
im procccingggggg
yo why didnt i do all these free numbers a month ago
am i stupid
drifting nova
Just to check in: Whenever entering Eclipse (doesn't matter which) first spell s...
no
cursive mirage
Just to check in: Whenever entering Eclipse (doesn't matter which) first spell s...
nah you want to send your spenders first
only starfire to consume your insta-cast if in incarn/lunar
drifting nova
and in ec
drifting nova
I DONT WRITE THE RULES
cursive mirage
don't make me semantic you into the void
muted remnant
Ah alright, but yea, to specify, first spender should always be starfire even on ST
Kk thx
drifting nova
don't make me semantic you into the void
namaste
drifting nova
Ah alright, but yea, to specify, first spender should always be starfire even on...
what. no
muted remnant
Should it not be? It reads like that off of the Rotation Opener unless I got that wrong
Oh no, not a spender
Wrong term
Generator :p
drifting nova
it's 100% going to get changed
the off eclipse is like 0.1%
much easier for your brain to just ignore non eclipse buttons
spice roost
if u sit in the middle sure
is it hitting 3 targets with starfal if u arent ion middle is my question
fair pasture
like theyre just way better, besides being cloth
lofty depot
is it hitting 3 targets with starfal if u arent ion middle is my question
doubt
fair pasture
minor armour shouldnt matter?
lofty depot
like theyre just way better, besides being cloth
u get liek 5% less int
from ur armor type uhh idk spell thing
which is 5% of ur total
fair pasture
oh okay
also while ur here
is the telluric leyblossom not having int just make it automatically a non starter?
drifting nova
I will flame you, thats a reason
lofty depot
no
fair pasture
the proc seems rly good was just curious if there was an obvious answer besides sim it
lofty depot
i just wouldnt use urn cuz it fears u
fair pasture
i just wouldnt use urn cuz it fears u
i figured that but i somehow didnt notice it yet
drifting nova
i just wouldnt use urn cuz it fears u
just summon a killable mob like what people do for preys
lofty depot
Should it not be? It reads like that off of the Rotation Opener unless I got tha...
on none of the guides does it say starfire in solar no
also to be clear starfiring in incarn isnt an increase unless theres multiple mobs
both are neutral now so u can press wrath or starfire
fair pasture
i was very much under the impression it was also, maybe some kink of the wording
as far as when we get instant wrath or starfire off entering eclipse
lofty depot
think most of u just cant read
lofty depot
as far as when we get instant wrath or starfire off entering eclipse
correct
the key word being and
fair pasture
priority lists are very hard to parse out of the blue
especially if you started playing the class for the first time a week ago
fair pasture
i think starfire being like nine years longer cast makes it seem like more damage so when its free it makes you want to
livid jay
especially if you started playing the class for the first time a week ago
Practice on target dummies. Start with opener and go from there. If there's a moment you're confused, stop and read prior list and go again
pine briar
has anything changed about how to get the firey moonkin form since midnight? ive farmed all 3 difficulties every week and havent gotten it yet, not sure how rare it is tho
jaunty blaze
can take some tries if youre unlucky
pine briar
are we talking like tens or thousands of tries? havent really been able to find solid drop rate info
jaunty blaze
like single digit usually
only thing to speed it up would be to farm it on several druids if you have some
drifting nova
I got it like 2nd
pine briar
gotcha, just wanted to make sure there isnt some like alternate quest line or something that I wasnt aware of to get it
just bad luck i guess, ill keep trying
is it a separate drop chance for each difficulty or should i just be doing mythic?
jaunty blaze
could be i dont really know
drifting nova
yes
lucid olive
are we talking like tens or thousands of tries? havent really been able to find ...
No it's 1 a week regardless of difficulty
If I recall correct
lucid olive
No don't think so
It doesn't take a lot of tries usually, but you're limited to 1 try a week so it takes a bit anyway
In like 4 weeks time you'll be able to do Amirdrassil LFR at least
pine briar
ok good to know, thanks!
static sluice
Can you solo Mythic Amirdrasil by now? Or is that something where you still need a few people
jaunty blaze
did it easily as 2 yesterday might be possible 
static sluice
What gear level were you at?
jaunty blaze
270
pine briar
ive been able to solo everything except Fyrakk, ive seen a video of a hunter solo him but it was because some talent was broken
static sluice
I guess with legacy damage enabled it should be possible in .5
jovial kestrel
In Elune's Choosen - AoE build's rotation, should I cast Wrath on all target counts when outside of Eclipse? (with Fury of Elune and Touch of the Cosmos talented and rest of it untalented)
delicate perch
I'm not playing world of thinkcraft
jaunty blaze
need to ask me grok
delicate perch
compendium showed wrath outside of eclipse when I checked it though
jaunty blaze
its a gain on single target
delicate perch
now I don't wanna be wrong 
@lucid olive is it perma wrath outside of ec as EC
nvm drop down shows to starefire 
jaunty blaze
🔥
delicate perch
I'm logging off its time to slay the spire
viscid storm
any tips for someone new to druid and the chicken
manic lichen
Any crafting recommendations for a Balance Druid?
lucid olive
now I don't wanna be wrong <a:Susge:1114114911715463248> <@147914503588282368> i...
wtf does this mean
it must be getting late in oce..
outside of ec as ec
nice
lucid olive
Any crafting recommendations for a Balance Druid?
staff
manic lichen
i have, another craft? wrist or ring?
royal zenith
yeh he is
delicate perch
he wishes
spiral granite
is simming fine now or still some bugs in it?
dull dust
frank vine
hey guys, so i have a question about starweaver in m+ and its priorities (pertaining to the mob count and starlord stacks):
if there's a pack of X number of mobs and you have X stacks of starlord, at what mob count is it not worth using starweaver procs to cast starsurge anymore and at what starlord stacks as well? this question might be formulated a bit weirdly, but i'm actually curious about priority casts
lucid olive
hey guys, so i have a question about starweaver in m+ and its priorities (pertai...
Last time it was checked that I know about it was like 10 targets
Probably noticeably less without 4set
frank vine
so i almost always use the starsurge proc from starweaver even if there's loads of enemies?
frank vine
that kinda does make sense yes, and im guessing it also doesnt matter what amount of starlord stacks i have?
lucid olive
Yeah you don't really make any decisions around Starlord anymore
Unless you like majorly fucked your Eclipse and CA cooldowns and end up outside of Eclipse for a long time
Starlord, Harmony of the Heavens and Ascendant Stars are basically all the same thing
Only need to track one as well
All 3 talents fully stack or consume after your first 3 spenders in Eclipse, this is also why you want to pool AP between every time you enter Eclipse (as long as you're not sitting at 2 charges for no reason)
frank vine
right, I see, thank you
and about using wrath outside of eclipse in EC, this applies only if theres 1 target I assume?
lucid olive
Yeah
It's also not the biggest thing
Wrath just generates some more AP and gives more Star Cascade procs and higher chance of starting Eclipse with an Umbral Embrace proc
Overall I think those things just gives more value than the extra Starfire dam from Lunar Calling
frank vine
got it, thanks boss, one more final short question is what you would consider a "major fuck up" in cooldowns and being outside of eclipse for? 10 seconds without eclipse? 15 seconds?
lucid olive
Hard to give like a timer like that, just avoid cutting your Eclipse short by pressing Incarn and you're probably fine
15-20 seconds is outrageous tho
10-15 seconds you can probably assume you'll have from time to time
I think for most raid fights with Incarn the uptime is around 70-75%
And then naturally less with CA since it's 5 seconds shorter
frank vine
thank you for patience and explanation, appreciate it gamz
lucid olive
Np I'm sat waiting for the ferry to arrive anyway
upper maple
Hi, just wondering if the sims for Balance druid are working yet? I normally use Dungeon Slice but i was getting errors? Not sure if there is a way around it to sim multitarget? 😄
lucid olive
Hi, just wondering if the sims for Balance druid are working yet? I normally use...
Dungeonslice has never been supported
But read the FAQ in #1473018731687841853
upper maple
Thank you!! 😄
rain jetty
I need some help with addons
What are we using as boomkies now for UI
Is everyone back on native Wow without uis now ?
I need an update 😄
lucid olive
There's some add-on stuff listed in #1473018731687841853
rain jetty
HAvent been playing for 3 years
lucid olive
Basically a small checklist of what you want to track and some add-on recommendations for it
rain jetty
What about the plater
lucid olive
If you want the easiest plug and play experience with a good UI there are several free packs on Wago
lucid olive
Can't have that anymore
lucid olive
Plater still works tho, Jundies profile is pretty good
Having nameplate change color on dots was a crutch anyway
Time to grow up
lucid olive
Works for all, there aren't really class or spec specific nameplate profiles
Since nameplates can't track anything on your character
rain jetty
Okay what do I download to have
Clean nameplates at least
That are not stacking over each other
etc
just plater
And Jundies for example import?
lucid olive
Plater or Platynator, both are fine
lucid olive
And Jundies for example import?
Yeah
Anyway I gotta dip, maybe someone else answers if you have any more questions
Or maybe not who knows
maiden pasture
i've heard many complaints about jundies nameplates overlapping, seems to be his profile just has issues with that
rain jetty
I've fixed it but still
Without the color coding
Its so shit
Look you cant see 2 moonfires and sunfires
Because they go behind
How
How
delicate perch
i've heard many complaints about jundies nameplates overlapping, seems to be his...
aren't those settings not changed by profiles
maiden pasture
aren't those settings not changed by profiles
no clue, purely anecdotally the only people i've heard complain about this just happen to also be using jundies plater
delicate perch
hollow sandal
guys who do i sim higher with elunes chosen when obviously everyone is playing kotg at top logs?
its like a 3k diff
craggy sonnet
GG sims bad.
But EC is also just harder to get close to sim DPS cause it fully depends on high uptime
Not cancelling casts
And kotg is usually burstier, which lends itself better to actual fight timings
rain jetty
guys who do i sim higher with elunes chosen when obviously everyone is playing k...
Elune for Mplus
Keeper for Raid
And Elune for some bosses
Like vangaurd
carmine acorn
Hey guys what do u use to track eclipse nowadays? just regular cdm?
i see for example tettles having a bar on the ui on top of his mana bar but i dont know which addon does that xD
lucid olive
i see for example tettles having a bar on the ui on top of his mana bar but i do...
Either ArcUI or ayijecdm
You can do Eclipse bars with regular CDM
fluid veldt
I’m have what is probably a stupid question to most so sorry in advance. With Elaine spec, if I’m in lunar eclipse should I still be pressing starfire as my builder on ONE target? Would I only press wrath on ONE target when I’m NOT in eclipse?
jaunty blaze
yes
fluid veldt
Thanks
wintry widget
Elaine 🩷
obsidian fox
What's the name of the potion that lasts 30 second for raid now?
stuck pine
yo, i got the eternal voidsong chain in HC, but it requires shadowdamage to proc. i have the eye of the drowning void trinket but i dont see the neck proc on dmg meter. anyone else have the same neck? or any way to proc it.
jovial kestrel
Dungeonslice has never been supported
so how do i sim my character for mythic+?
also up to what target I should cast wrath when outside of eclipse in elune's choosen build?
warm briar
What's the name of the potion that lasts 30 second for raid now?
Light’s Potential
rigid flame
yo, i got the eternal voidsong chain in HC, but it requires shadowdamage to proc...
It procs on trinket shadow damage. Grab the NPX ring set and Soulcatchers charm and it will proc more reliably. I'm unsure if it is a DPS increase over better itemization though. Going to have to sim
stuck pine
It procs on trinket shadow damage. Grab the NPX ring set and Soulcatchers charm ...
okey! thanks for answer 🙂
wintry widget
hehe
fluid veldt
wait wrath outside of eclipse with EC?
This is what I was asking yes? Is that the case or not? Thanks 🙏
lucid olive
This is what I was asking yes? Is that the case or not? Thanks 🙏
Yes on ST
lucid olive
so how do i sim my character for mythic+?
also up to what target I should cast ...
FAQ in #1473018731687841853
digital berry
i still have not been able to find why the fuck my cds are not showing on action bars
they arent even updating when i switch forms to spells like wild charge
it only changes once i hover over the specific spell on the action bar
it's mad weird
jovial kestrel
FAQ in <#1473018731687841853>
thank you! how about wrath question? :)
lucid olive
i still have not been able to find why the fuck my cds are not showing on action...
What add-ons + are they updated
primal forum
getting there!
What character sheet addon is this?
lucid olive
There was a hotfix this week that broke action bars but all the main affected add-ons are already patched
dense steeple
What character sheet addon is this?
chonky
carmine acorn
Either ArcUI or ayijecdm
Spent like an hour configuring ayijecdm
Still can't do what tettles has which is one bar with both eclipses
But ended up with one line that shows either 1 bar or 2 bars in same row, occupying always the same width
lucid olive
Still can't do what tettles has which is one bar with both eclipses
Yeah that's ArcUI
Don't recommend it tho in general, solid add-on but a bit confusing
AyijeCDM also uses the default Blizzard bars from the CDM so it's more likely to not break with new API restrictions, think ArcUI uses "press the spell and hard code a bar to show up" method
carmine acorn
Ye I'm fine with what I did
Kinda don't like also not having star lord in the essential CD bar
But I put it somewhere where I think I can eventually get used to it
lucid olive
Starlord not very important to track
carmine acorn
its true, eventually i might just remove it
I also kind of dont need the rebirth there and will put it probably besides the pot
another thing is that i think i might remove moonfire and sunfire from essencial cds, i never look at them there
either at boss bar or nameplates
lucid olive
Now those are ones you should remove cause that's piss useless
carmine acorn
the free ones
lucid olive
Starfall Starsurge I can get but just add the Starweaver procs to the buff bar instead
Wrath Starfire there is 0 reason to track procs
carmine acorn
I'm not using a buff bar (i mean i am, is the starlord)
well, you get the instant cast ones
good to know that you can cast while moving
misty glade
my droptimizer is suggesting crafting the boots with the embellishment that has you collect an orb for a stat buff - I feel like that's likely simbait?
lucid olive
well, you get the instant cast ones
The ones that happen once right after you press Eclipse??
You know your next filler is instant after entering Eclipse, tracking that is just visual noise
carmine acorn
LOL ok that i didn't know
lucid olive
my droptimizer is suggesting crafting the boots with the embellishment that has ...
Don't droptimizer crafts
misty glade
Don't droptimizer crafts
Oh. But then how will my smooth brain know what to make? 😛
carmine acorn
I'll do some changes with that info in mind, both starweaver and this wrath/starfire nonsense
thanks
lucid olive
Oh. But then how will my smooth brain know what to make? 😛
Add the items in top gear then hit the + sign on the item to change stats and add embellishments
dense steeple
thats all you need boss, tops.
carmine acorn
uff no decurse cd
dense steeple
not currently talented
carmine acorn
ah ok