balance

[zinc lagoon]

It's pretty xD

[royal zenith]

no gaze and stare are both good

but you need to sim it regardless

[pale crescent]

I got stare and ribbon

[royal zenith]

and see what is better

[pale crescent]

Ok good good

[delicate perch]

you would certainly take stare over gaze

[round field]

they also do different thing

one is on use one is not

[pale crescent]

Sure I got stare

[zinc lagoon]

i dont' think i'll get a 285 crafted weap for long time ...

[round field]

why not..

its not very hard to get?

[zinc lagoon]

Have a life and i'm out of home for 1month or so

[delicate perch]

my bad I guess

[pale crescent]

Farm m+ and get it? I mean 285

[round field]

uhm

you need like

[pale crescent]

“Only 80”

[round field]

a few dungeons to get it

[dull dust]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ascending-energy

[zinc lagoon]

but anyway, 286 would need myth crests right?

[round field]

u worded that like its a 50 hour grind

[royal zenith]

isn't it like 60 crests

[pale crescent]

It’s 80 I think

[royal zenith]

half of those come from ?? boss

[pale crescent]

But don’t u get 10?

[royal zenith]

which is like 5-10 minutes (with a group)

[pale crescent]

For each m+ with a good key

Solo kill ?? still impossible?

Got 5 hero badges this morning from the usual one

[round field]

you definitely get more than 10 crests for a key

it scales per key lvl

[zinc lagoon]

not sure if i understood this ...

[round field]

(hes telling you to not pick the weapon)

[zinc lagoon]

oh ok

i was thinking he was telling me not to take either one xD

[pale crescent]

But for those who already crafted

[round field]

wdym for those who already crafted

[pale crescent]

Haha ok picking the weapon I mean

272 looked solid

[round field]

picking the weapon is bad regardles..

cause you can just walk into a key and loot it

[flint sapphire]

? im noob druid, what happend ? :S

[royal zenith]

Vaelgor's stare is your best trinket

[zinc lagoon]

i also have some hero boots from delves

[delicate perch]

once you get 4set you can get cata charges from content, you will not get a high ilvl weapon from anywhere but mythic raid, and the 2nd closest is the crafted and VERY easy to obtain

[pale crescent]

Yes but I had the misfortune to read some gearing tips

[round field]

but its poopy normal ilvl..

[royal zenith]

yeah and poopy normal ilvl is still 3k dps

[royal zenith]

I think I will

[round field]

3k dps is nothing

[royal zenith]

stop reading this channel

[delicate perch]

is tthis good

[rain jetty]

TRASHHH

Give me tho

[round field]

what else are u gonna do

[rain jetty]

Ill disenchant

[pale crescent]

Jebaited

[royal zenith]

just so I dont have to look at what iqni is saying

that guy is lost

[round field]

wow

im less lost than people playing the game..

[coarse lodge]

So is Keeper just as good as chosen in +?

[delicate perch]

[zinc lagoon]

ok, so weap is discarded ... then think about boots or chest i guess xD

[royal zenith]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/47?class=Druid&spec=Balance&leaderboards=1

have a look and find out..

[coarse lodge]

I take that as a yes then tyvm

[quartz void]

Sadge

[severe osprey]

Woo got tier helm on mine

[royal zenith]

I know you're looking for the easy answer

but in actual overall damage they're basically equal

at the moment

so play whatever you like

[jolly delta]

Are they?

[royal zenith]

didnt open the logs vinter?

thought so

[jolly delta]

yeah im seeing a few people pulling out decent numbers with kotg

[royal zenith]

well yeah

[jolly delta]

doesnt mean the trees are equal

[royal zenith]

that's the definition of "at the moment" and "so play whatever you like"

reading comprehension is diminishing

[maiden pasture]

how do u sim diff drum stats chat

[jolly delta]

you probably want a different bonusid

let me check

[maiden pasture]

i have a hero one in vault

wanna check if its worth grabbing

[jolly delta]

I would really be surprised

[maiden pasture]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hqq86eSG5QDSzM4afGfMGo - drum max sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e7swsSZgrFLgi4of5H459m - dungeon droptimiser

seems okay

but ig no point taking if this maisara trinket just sims better

[coarse lodge]

I don't really know how to read logs like that, but yeah just trying to discern the difference really. Id assume keeper is more prio and chosen more aoe but idk

[royal zenith]

check

keeper is supposed to be leaning more towards ST (aka raid) and EC better for m+

but I think people just play whatever they want rn

[coarse lodge]

Makes sense thanks bro

[royal zenith]

if you feel more comfortable playing EC, you'll probably do more damage

and I think that like

10's are still pretty easy, aka stuff dies fast

so you can't -really- get full value out of EC

[jolly delta]

# Drum of Renewed Bonds (233)
# trinket1=,id=248583,bonus_id=12777/6652/13184
#
# Drum of Renewed Bonds (233)
# trinket1=,id=248583,bonus_id=13183/12777/6652
#
# Drum of Renewed Bonds (233)
# trinket1=,id=248583,bonus_id=12777/6652/13185
#
# Drum of Renewed Bonds (233)
# trinket1=,id=248583,bonus_id=12777/6652/13186

[coarse lodge]

Yeah I have 1 timed so far

But that's what it felt like like I wasnt able to get value cuz things died too fast

[royal zenith]

yeah, can just try and play kotg and see if it works out better

[jolly delta]

actually well, this bricks your ilvl 1s

[royal zenith]

recruitie was playing KOTG and it was pulling good numbers:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wvTV73jr2dKPLaAy?fight=12&type=damage-done

[coarse lodge]

And helping my wife out with lower keys tmr so yeah guess I'll take that as an opertunity to learn keeper

[royal zenith]

compared to like EC
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JGyrM2Hw67TnRCj8?fight=23&type=damage-done

[royal zenith]

[jolly delta]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nM2yPHGFBWVRsW4dnz6rbj

This should be correct

Combo 3 is crucible + drums on mast

No idea how to doublecheck but if you just do a topsim urself with that string it should be more obvious

# trinket1=,id=248583,bonus_id=13185/6652/12793

(I would rather pick socket)

the fact that blizzard thinks a +10 is somehow similar to mythic raid will never not be funny

[round field]

yeah

but imagine all the m+ andies crying when they no longer get mythic gear for doing easy content

[lucid olive]

they dont

m+ vault also scaled to 18 for most of beta

but if they don't let the easiest dungeon content give myth crests then all the minigamers who cap at +15s and call it "high key pushing" will be mad

[quiet drift]

bamkin so op!!!

[dawn surge]

boys does this trinket work well for us? does starfall count as a non periodic spell?

[round field]

no

maybe

depends on blizzards mood

[rain jetty]

Very trash

[round field]

competing against nothing

[quiet drift]

shadowboxing

[gloomy plank]

Does anyone know a good site on how to play this class that isn't Icy Veins or Wowhead? 😬
Or is there anyone who can help me? I'm not performing well 😵‍💫

[lucid olive]

go look tettles log

0 parse with a rank 1

smh

[lofty depot]

What's wrong with either of those

And yes u can post ur logs here and some nice person will tell u what ur doing wrong

[lofty depot]

Helps being there first

[modest swift]

Do we ever use Convoke? I see in WoWhead that it would be good in Raids but I personaly prefer to not have it atm bc I am struggeling with having enought up time on Eclipse (I have phases where I cant cast eclipses for 20 sec+, any tips appreciated)

[lofty depot]

1. Yes it's good, but depends on fight
2. There are periods of the fight where u don't have eclipse yes.
3. Post a log and maybe someone can help u

[modest swift]

okay ty

[jolly delta]

dreamgrove.gg

[modest swift]

Is this meme AI?

No hate just curious

[dense steeple]

is this illegal?

[gloomy plank]

ty

[gloomy plank]

yes, lol

[lofty depot]

Didn't answer why wowhead was bad hmm

[jolly delta]

writer's bad

[lofty depot]

Crafted staff silly

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[royal zenith]

is this illegal, is what illegal

looting a staff?

badass??

[dense steeple]

vendoring the staff people like

[royal zenith]

oh, zero care

it's just loot

now vendor your vaelgor's stare

and we're talking

I dare you

[dense steeple]

vaelgors stare? never seen one

just like ive never seen a leather tier token be useful

we got 1 leather in splits last night

it went to a split alt

[royal zenith]

tf..

[dense steeple]

because all the mains in that split had that piece from vault

[royal zenith]

kek

yeah that can happen

[dense steeple]

meanwhile all our cloth and mail have 4pc

we have 1 leather with 4pc and thats because he looted one from lfr

[flint void]

Hi there, should we wait to craft staff with myth crests ? Or is it still worth it with hero ?

[dense steeple]

myth crest staff good

[gloomy plank]

Nothing wrong—I'm just trying to look for other options. I'm the problem, lol.

[lofty depot]

Would be wasting hero if u crafted it with them

[flint void]

Ok. That’s what someone told me. I’ll wait then

Thanks for help

[vale pebble]

?xD

[lofty depot]

Moonkin is so back

Holy

[fossil otter]

anyone happen to know if the recraft bugg is fixed

[lofty depot]

Just don't get bugged

[fossil otter]

bro..

[lofty depot]

Assert dominance

[delicate perch]

I did more boss damage than tettles on first boss

washed streamer?

[fossil otter]

he got unlucky procs

[languid estuary]

Can someone suggest balance Druid content creators, preferably m+ focused?

[lofty depot]

No one is m+ focused currently

But tettles will eventually

[round field]

what is it gonna be this time

zero to hero on healer

[lucid olive]

disc i think yeah

[round field]

[twilit ocean]

Hello. Can we still change colour of enemies based on DoTs? Like Moonfire enemies get a purple border around their nameplate?

[lofty depot]

No

Time to dot like God intended

[twilit ocean]

Hope Blizzard employee who thought that has a very nice life

[lofty depot]

He will

I thank him for making m+ andies cry

[lucid olive]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6PZq7cNa2CbuhkvBeWLfmB ilvl check any1?

[lofty depot]

Gear fed

[delicate perch]

If I send my heroic crests on shit slots I’d be above you

[lofty depot]

I'm like 264 with negative hero items

Ilvl check on sunday

[lofty depot]

What's a picture gonna do

Send the link silly

[dense steeple]

i see you only casted moonfire 10 times, that means youre not pressing moonfire enough

[gloomy plank]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xBNfXZtJDhKvR2Mz?fight=5&type=damage-done&source=182

[lofty depot]

Why aren't we dotting prior to incarn

Also, currently (might change who knows).... U should be building asp prior to incarn usually happens by pressing eclipse and sending some procs but wrath spamming prior

U send all ur asp before entering eclipse for some reason

Waiting on Jesus to comeback to press starfall

Ur not prepping into eclipse or incarn

Entering with negative asp

All the shit dead by the time ur spamming starfall

Which is to say, ur playing a pad Starfall build on normal boss, when shit just dies in 2 globals

Would suggest pressing ur eclipse button

And yea ur just sending asp for fun

Not pooling for new eclipse, sending a outside or at the end of eclipse

[dawn surge]

yeah i tested it and it INSTANTLY dropped all the crit from starfall/dots alone lmfao

[lofty depot]

3m trinket is beans

Save ur mental

[dawn surge]

i mean it could have value in certain dungeons if you were able to stay at 900 crit for a long time

but it just insta drops to 0 anyways so doesnt really amtter

[pine wasp]

hello quick question, is it normal that i do in 10 keys like negative aoe dps? st is totally fine but aoe is like tank dps lol. i have ilvl 256 0 set :/ feels very unsatisfying

[quiet drift]

67

[lofty depot]

Are u pressing ur buttons

[pine wasp]

all the time Q_Q

[lofty depot]

Seems sus

[dawn surge]

if ur doing tank dam at 256 even with 0 set u arent pressing ur buttons very well if at all :P

outside of cds if ur tank uses full cds then yeah they can match

[pine wasp]

its a prot pala

as a comparison

[dawn surge]

but cds vs cds

u should never lose

[lofty depot]

Idk, it's the same shit as before... Dot shit, slam

[dawn surge]

well i wont say literally never but 9/10 times

[pine wasp]

had a blast in s1 wwt, getting back to boomie and it feelks like what am i dong xd

[dawn surge]

are u pressing eclipse

[royal zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-yuji-itadori-itadori-jjk-jjk-memes-gif-10590484690139953694

[pine wasp]

sure

lol

[quiet drift]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bK8Mz15wV6pFVHdEpxEQ5G

ive been mogged

[dawn surge]

i mean thats the only real change in how we play from tww s1/2

[royal zenith]

is all of this dps just from m+ gear holllyyy molyyyy

and ugprading weaponnnn?

we just proc'd 15k dps in one reset

[lofty depot]

He doesn't even have much m+ gear

[royal zenith]

tier will be over in max 2 weeks

oh wait, we're getting more bosses

[pine wasp]

i know but i feel like stupid af and it annoys really hard :/

[royal zenith]

when does the rest release?

[lofty depot]

Next week

[devout agate]

I'm a new player on retail, can someone help me with the rotation for raid? 😄

[lofty depot]

Have u read the guide

[devout agate]

Yes, for the keeper of the groove

I want to ask, should I use my eclipses on cd?

[royal zenith]

actually?

also that's gonna be cursed

[lofty depot]

Ye

[royal zenith]

already miss heroic week for the rest of the bosses

[lofty depot]

If ur asking that it feels like u didnt read the guide

Eclipse = damage

U sue eclipse to do damage

So ur maximizing ur time in eclipse, there for should be using it to not overcap charges otherwise ur sitting on CD doing nothing

[devout agate]

Yea, my main question is, do I use one eclipse even though I can use the other spell which triggers both eclipses 10 secs later?

[lofty depot]

Currently that is what is being done yes

[devout agate]

Good, that's all 🫡

[lofty depot]

We use eclipse prior to CDs to not overcap charges

[devout agate]

Understood, thank you

I saw that some guys use, for instance at 1st boss at second 47

Even thoough they're in eclipse

They use fon + the other eclipse spell to burst dmg

[lofty depot]

Adds spawn at 45

Or some ahit

[devout agate]

Yea so he uses it to burst dmg

Understood now thx

[royal zenith]

burst damage with eclipse...

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

Big starfires surely

[devout agate]

On the adds

[royal zenith]

do you have a log

of the guy you were looking at

[devout agate]

I was looking at this guy

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f1MvwFXTAPZdJrmY?fight=14&source=408&type=casts&view=timeline

[dense steeple]

yeah fuck that guy

[devout agate]

And he uses eclipse at sec 24/45 then he uses fon + encarnation

[heavy iris]

is other thing incarn lmao

[lofty depot]

Guy got lucky procs

[devout agate]

Ye :))

[lofty depot]

Cuz he slammed a bunch prior

[royal zenith]

yeah, it's just a good coincidence

obviously eclipse is a good dps increase

but him starfalling when adds are up prob more damage

[jolly delta]

you basically press eclipse as long as you don't have CA, with the exception of making sure to leave a charge for the situation where treants are coming up but you wont have CA

[royal zenith]

as the DPS increase is AFTER he used eclipse

[devout agate]

But like, what's the average dps that dudu should do on heroic?

I'm currently capped at ~49k

Especially at first boss

[royal zenith]

if you zoom in

it's mostly starfall that carries, decent dps from proccing bolt's tho

[lofty depot]

49k is like week 1 champ gear

But like 20k worse

[grizzled dagger]

do you guys know the droprate of dawnlight manaflux after getting achievement?

[timid rover]

Hey guys, is it confirmed that once we get 4 set bonus, catalyst charges drop from other sources? Asking because i only need 1 more slot but my head & shoulders are champ gear, and we raid tonight

[proven swallow]

did something change in the apl used for sims? gaze of the alnseer now sims considerebly higher than ~2 days ago (only diff was me getting 2p)

[lofty depot]

I think u can only get 2 from each activity a week but unsure

[lofty depot]

U can read the achievement for it, yea

[lofty depot]

Apl doeent effect it, the trinket has changed

It'll likely be good but not the best

U can't farm said trinket so it likely looking for soul catchers charm to farm

[proven swallow]

didnt alnseer only recieve nerfs? i cant find any buffs to it lately

[gloomy plank]

so...
dots prior to incarn,
eclipse > build asp > incarn ?

[lofty depot]

Well 2 days ago it was likely bugged

[proven swallow]

ah

[lofty depot]

So depending on when you looked

[lofty depot]

Dot prior to eclipse, spend the apex procs, build, redot Sunfire, foe, trees incarn

That is the current process yes

[devout agate]

Aln'hara cane or dagger+offhand?

[supple jungle]

staff 80 crests or dagger + Offhand 160 crests

[gloomy plank]

ty

[dense steeple]

truly a mystery which is more cost effective

[lofty depot]

But it says my bis is 1h + oh

[dense steeple]

good thing no one is even half way to bis

[grizzled dagger]

i've done multiple M+

since getting it

and i got 0 catalysts

[lofty depot]

Get luckier silly

[fair pasture]

anyone using Gamz's UI know what the noise that sounds like it says "clefairy" is saying whenever I hover over icons my map xD

[heavy iris]

i have gotten 3 this week

[fair pasture]

its driving me a lil bit insane

[grizzled dagger]

from?

[lofty depot]

R u sure it's not fatality

[dense steeple]

you sure thats not saying fatality?

cause that sounds like the error message

[heavy iris]

keys and raid

combined

[lofty depot]

Which is from like bug sack or bug grabber which u can mute

In the addon

[fair pasture]

ah tyvm

yeah i have no idea what its saying

so much better, thank you\

[dense steeple]

honestly, gamz should put clefairy in the ui

for everytime we hover over map icons

😄

[fair pasture]

AGREE

the ui is really good but turning on all of it at once and trying to slowly adapt it is overwhelming at times

especially cause i just started playing wow again this week after like ten years, but we're getting there

also are people using wild charge in moonkin form or macroing it to like go into a different form

[royal zenith]

LMAO

@lucid olive please incorporate an uwu sound in the next version

or

[lofty depot]

Form swapping is bad

Waste time

[fair pasture]

oh yeah i forgot it would use a gcd

[long marsh]

The only time I use wild charge is during the grab-ass period while the raid is forming.

[lofty depot]

Smh, bet u spam dots and lose dps

[royal zenith]

I use wildcharge to jump holes

it's fun

[lofty depot]

I'll wild charge into your hole

[long marsh]

Couldn't tell you to be honest, I use auto rotation and eat nachos. And I'm never out of nachos.

[fair pasture]

does this "which group i extend an invitation to for magister seril" stuff matter at all

oops wrong channel

[lofty depot]

Transmog shit

[dense steeple]

no

[lofty depot]

Suggestions on how to play coming from nacho eater

Locken

[lucid olive]

it means your addons are running into LUA errors

should update them probably

[fair pasture]

updated like an hour ago

[lucid olive]

also this isn't a UI help channel if you have issues you should DM me instead

[fair pasture]

i literally just downloaded yours through wago

[lucid olive]

but it is what it is

[fair pasture]

good to know : )

[lucid olive]

not the first and wont be the last

[fair pasture]

i was gonna dm you but wasnt sure if that was allowed

ty

[lucid olive]

nah its all good

[royal zenith]

you know what they say...

fortune favors the bold...

[lofty depot]

if I type like this am I favored?

[jolly delta]

complains about people DMing him
tells people to DM him

[lucid olive]

the description on Wago says to contact me if theres any issues :)))

[jolly delta]

should put a "NO WARRANTY" notice

[lucid olive]

real

its only on there because people were asking for it

[jolly delta]

anyways this stupid APL doesnt want to work so it's time to slam some m+

[lofty depot]

Spec is shit

[jolly delta]

if only people knew what they were simming with

(im jk the apl is fine)

[lofty depot]

"fine"

[jolly delta]

should be swapped but cba

[round field]

what the

why is it

30 seconds

then 55 seconds

then 35

thhen 45

then 50

this game sucks

[lofty depot]

Don't ask

[reef ocean]

does unlocking 4pc on one character unlock extra cata charges on your whole account?

or did they fix that?

[lofty depot]

Was a bug

Doesn't anymore

[jolly delta]

i promise we're responsible only for a small portion of that

[royal zenith]

you're not responsible for jackshit lil gup

developer is the one in charge

the ONE

[jolly delta]

you know who's responsible

netanyahu

[maiden pasture]

[jolly delta]

is there any reason to do world content except for vault or

[lofty depot]

Which world content

[jolly delta]

idk any

wq, delves, prey

delve gives hero track with map

is there anything else?

[lofty depot]

Delve give hero item from that w.e. beacon item

Delve quest quest can give raid trinkets, champ track

[jolly delta]

delve quest quest

[fair pasture]

which setup do you folks use for delves? raid ST, raid aoe, m+?

[lofty depot]

Delves bear

Raid, warcraftlogs and see what people are playing

M+, w.e. u want

[grave scaffold]

so how exactly are we supposed to play around 2 set?

[lofty depot]

Dot things

[grave scaffold]

so nothing changes, cool. ty

[lofty depot]

Correct it's passive damage

[unreal grail]

Balance feel a bit meh rn

[lofty depot]

Why is that

[pseudo spade]

feels rough in m+

[lofty depot]

Feels fine idk

[jade jacinth]

Should i use or save hero crests? 😄 ive got mythic crafted weapon

[lofty depot]

U likely send crest prior to stepping j to mythoc

[jade jacinth]

ok ty

😄

[wide dawn]

What is the boomie off pcs for tier sets

[round field]

usually the one you dont loot

[glacial steeple]

Gloves

[jolly delta]

gottem

[sturdy pumice]

anyone else have auth/login issues? (US)

[tulip snow]

eu ddosing na while they sleep

[still iris]

is m+ this season easier? breezing through +12 without any trouble

and balance feels insanely strong

[lucid olive]

yeah its easier

balance is okay

does a lot of dam in CDs

[ripe slate]

what does the hunt embellish proc on a mob with no monster type like l'ura

[dense steeple]

accidentally abused a bug

in MT 10 we were vibin

then right at the end our healer dc and we farmed deaths for a second

we got like 12 deaths

none of them subtracted from the timer

[lofty depot]

[dense steeple]

so we still timed it

[royal zenith]

Seems keys are piss easy then

[maiden pasture]

yeah they really are

[lofty depot]

Until I start slamming 10s with pugs and they wipe to random shit

[royal zenith]

Pugging is never the bar

[dense steeple]

here was our dps breakdown

[royal zenith]

Lfr is hard with pugs

Says enough

[dense steeple]

true

pugs are the hardest keys to time

[sturdy pumice]

they aren't easy - we just play better without WA and addon bloat /s

[ripe slate]

[ripe slate]

the answer to this was vers fwiw

[round field]

please refrain from posting details screeshots

the colors trigger me

[pseudo merlin]

Btw I think windows has a way to auto correct HDR screenshots

Or were these colors from soma a choice

there's no way he did that willingly right

[royal zenith]

…right?

[pseudo merlin]

...right?

this is some oiui pastel color shit

[indigo ether]

Pugging is so cancer

Might make me quit this game

[fiery kindle]

dream comes true

[indigo ether]

crazy luck

*Skill

[fiery kindle]

I finished the weekly delve quest and got gaze

[indigo ether]

what do u need

to do that quest

[fiery kindle]

just complete 5 delve, tier 1 is enough

[indigo ether]

mine says champion

[fiery kindle]

yea its champ

[indigo ether]

whats the easiest delve to spam

Stuck in a dilemma that I know im only gonna play this game until like June. But I know that pugging takes years off my life, but nothing good comes from pugging.

[lofty depot]

Surely pugging is easy

[fiery kindle]

sunkiller sanctum is good, 2.30min per delve

in voidstorm

[dense steeple]

suck my details

nerd

[indigo ether]

say sike

[dense steeple]

its default details

i dont do hdr

[dense steeple]

it is

just 2 chested an 11 in a pug

[pseudo merlin]

uhmmmmm

I dont think so bud

[dense steeple]

ive never touched it idk

[unborn marten]

Is anyone using the Ellesmere UI pack? I'm in a state where my eclipse buffs aren't tracking in the cdm

[lofty depot]

do u have it added in the cdm

[lucid olive]

He probably has a discord help channel

[jolly delta]

a friend of mine playing healer for the first time

and we're +3ing +7s

and we're 250

[royal zenith]

very good

[jolly delta]

game ruined

[royal zenith]

if m+ is hard

game is unfun

it's infinite scaling anyway

[jolly delta]

only shitters say that

[royal zenith]

are you even cutting edge

[jolly delta]

benched on sark kill after doing 200 pulls

[royal zenith]

KEK

that's terrible

[jolly delta]

we dont talk about that

[stark meteor]

got an a tier trinket im so happy

[jolly delta]

(and it was literally RWL)

so yeah

still pissed

[lucid olive]

We 2 chested a 12 Windrunner Spire with a pug healer

Keys are basically free

I logged in and we were doing 10s after like 30 minutes lol

[jolly delta]

yeah

except that I cant run my own key because game is dead

[normal pilot]

openclaw some agents to run alt accounts so you cna field a team

[hidden orbit]

is crafted wrist the bis wrist for us this season?

[white fossil]

Can you use Elunes Chosen for all fights at the moment?

[glacial steeple]

Yeah

[white fossil]

Tyty

[lucid olive]

Yeah technically, but you shouldn't be crafting it early

[hidden orbit]

what should i wait for ?

[lucid olive]

Craft staff with mythic crests now, and next week craft on a high stat budget slot, most likely your offpiece tier slot

Hero crests are too valuable to spend on crafting

And throwing myth crests on a low stat budget slot like wrists/belt/cloak is essentially throwing them down the hole

[hidden orbit]

ok i already crafted the staff with mythic crest
i think ill craft my off piece next week.
but do u have any idea on what would be the best off piece would be?

[lucid olive]

Hands is your safest bet

[wraith parcel]

Greetings fellow fluffkins how are you guys getting on with nightmare pray? Or should i bear it?

[hidden orbit]

ait ty Gamz the goat

[indigo ether]

can u get a 285 staff this week?

[dense steeple]

yes

[dense steeple]

i dont do combat in prey until boss time

then i just hit all my cds and win]

[stark meteor]

anyone know when we get the next dawn light or whatever it's called manaflux?

i fucked up and used it on a cape because I didn't read before i used it :")

(or do I just rush for 2k mythic rating)

i see I just gotta go for 2k rating

[indigo ether]

what do u use em for

[lucid olive]

upgrade hero track items

but upgrading to max hero track saves you 20 myth crests on the slot

[indigo ether]

I assume priority is like A and S tier trinkets

if it's hero?

[lucid olive]

weapon, trinkets, tier set slots

but to be optimal you want to loot items in the slot from a +10 first so you unlock free upgrade to 3/6 hero

[fiery kindle]

What is the next crafting prio after the staff?

[dense steeple]

offpiece

[lyric crystal]

hello, can someone tell me how i can sim for m+?? or for multiple targerts encounter in raid??

[normal pilot]

can't sim for m+ yet, maybe later

you can try multiple target patchwork for raid but it may not be 100% reliable yet

[halcyon pulsar]

how big is the difference on convoke and incarn in raid?

[lofty depot]

On st like 2k

[halcyon pulsar]

convoke is the best i assume?

[lofty depot]

Well there's no strictly ST boss, but it can have better performance on certain bosses maybe possibly

[halcyon pulsar]

ok thx

[dense steeple]

arctic am i gonna get tier in heroic tonight?

[lofty depot]

Uhhhh yes

Gonna be gloves tho

[dense steeple]

honestly

im okay with that

because i NEED fuckin tier

[lofty depot]

Yee

[analog moat]

Is there a breakdown on which boss to use convoke vs incarn? Specifically using EC. I feel like on the two dragons and the pallys, running the talent that extends dots would be helpful.

[dense steeple]

did you see what happened to us last night in splits for tier?

we got double leather tier from chimaerus, all the leather mains in either split already had leather chest 🙂

so we gave them to split alts

[lofty depot]

Go look at warcraftlogs and make some decisions

2 dragons u aren't spamming starfall

And nothing is stacked so being in lunar isn't exactly helpful

[lofty depot]

Be glad u got leather tier

That shit doesn't exist

[dense steeple]

did you read

it went to alts that dont matter

[lofty depot]

Yes

[dense steeple]

its basically the same as saying "we didnt get any leather tier"

[lofty depot]

Nuhuh

U saw it drop

Me no see

[dense steeple]

if its wasted it doesnt count

[lofty depot]

In my narrative it does count

[dense steeple]

luckily i'm the main character in this story, so my narrative counts more than yours

[lofty depot]

What the helly

[dense steeple]

how am i doin boss

[lofty depot]

No vaelgors = rip

[vital shard]

seems keeper performs way better in 10s

[glacial steeple]

Not great brother

[lofty depot]

What u mean not great

I'm blasting

[glacial steeple]

No vaelgors

Means not great

[dense steeple]

not lucky in splits

[lofty depot]

Well u didn't reply to either comment u just said it so I didn't know what u were responding to

[dense steeple]

i cant wait to loot the ember feather and tell the group i cant trade

[indigo ether]

just had a mage with 2 bis heroic trinkets, 285 weapon. roll a 100 and 97 on a ring and sword he didnt really need.

[lofty depot]

This is the greed they talk about in the bible

[dense steeple]

you talking lfr?

[indigo ether]

no heroic

vanguard

[dense steeple]

o

[indigo ether]

ilevel 267

[dense steeple]

either way chances are he is with someone in that group to try and get them loot

[grizzled dagger]

this is warband right?

[dense steeple]

no

[grizzled dagger]

oh its not?

[lofty depot]

Noooo

[grizzled dagger]

I feel scammed.

[lofty depot]

Should refresh wowhead more

[dense steeple]

it was never intended to be

[lucid olive]

and they didnt roll back the ones who got it on warband before they fixed it :)))

[grizzled dagger]

ofc.

[lucid olive]

either roll back or just make it work that way for everyone

[dense steeple]

:)))

[grizzled dagger]

classic blizz

[lofty depot]

Maybe u should get it faster next time

Exploit early, exploit often

[sleek trellis]

what should i get from the vault trinket or a set item?

[lofty depot]

Depends on ur ability to get tier

U'll gain more from tier than anything

[humble talon]

hero track tier hands, champ track shoulder/legs or hero vaelgor's ? I have 0 tier pieces rn and we clear normal and hc 5/6

[glacial steeple]

Finish your raid for the week then decide

[lofty depot]

Did u already clear raid this week

If not, u hold ur vault

[humble talon]

o7 will hold

[fiery kindle]

How do I macro Heart of the Wild and Bear Form together

#showtooltip Heart of the Wild
/cast [noform:1] Bear Form
/cast Heart of the Wild
like this?

[lofty depot]

#showtooltip Heart of the Wild
/cast [nostance:1] Bear Form
/cast Heart of the Wild

It's 2 button presses

[gray bloom]

I like to put frenzied Regen on there too at the bottom

[fiery kindle]

oh

[sleek trellis]

even if i don't have any tiered?

[lofty depot]

Well the set dawg

So gaining tier set is far better than trinkets early

But that depends on ur ability to get 4p

At worse ur getting it next week with the other cata charge

[sleek trellis]

also got a bis trinket from the raid yesterday

[copper gate]

what addon are you guys using to track battle rez count + timer

[lucid olive]

norskenui

[cobalt junco]

for opener dreamgrove says this but looking through logs i see people skip the part in red. should i follow people in logs?

[dense steeple]

people vibe

[lofty depot]

And or people don't know

And or people don't care

[cobalt junco]

so not much dam diff between the 2 i guess?

[lofty depot]

It was like 0.2 or 0.3%

[cobalt junco]

minimal

[lofty depot]

Ud gain more by playing better prob

[raw fulcrum]

hi every body how you track astral power?

[cobalt junco]

for sure. also why people not playing convoke on first boss? i feel adds die way to fast to even care about them

[raw fulcrum]

m so lost without WA

[lofty depot]

With a bar addon

Bettercooldownmanager, twintops

[lofty depot]

On normal they die pretty, fast. Heroic they don't really and u can pad pretty easily

My guild already want orbs taken off dragons logs

[cobalt junco]

Ok ok ill try pad yeah

[lofty depot]

They just can't keep up, smh

[cobalt junco]

ty brother

[raw fulcrum]

i love u

[lofty depot]

Rolls d20

I'm taken, stay back heathen

[lyric crystal]

so whats the difference on using incarnation rather than convoke the spirits in raid??? Is it because theres more adds and the fight are not pure single target??

[lofty depot]

Well they're close on st and incarn gains far more on aoe

[twin marten]

Hello guys
problably i'm not the first one i ask this but to learn the rotation to raid , where or how can learn that without much issues?

[lofty depot]

Go practice on a dummy and read the guide

[twin marten]

and wich guide? wowhead?

[lofty depot]

My name?

[lyric crystal]

ty :p

[atomic sequoia]

is convoke fixed on chim?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[atomic sequoia]

ty

[glacial steeple]

There's a linked guide in the pins

[twin marten]

thanks mate 🙏🏻

[lofty depot]

smh I said that

[glacial steeple]

Yeah but I said it kinder

[lofty depot]

I say it every message

It's like right in front of ur eyes

[glacial steeple]

Romantic?

[lofty depot]

No

[glacial steeple]

A little?

[lofty depot]

NO

[glacial steeple]

🙁

[uncut roost]

Anyone elses sparks disappear? I only have one in my bags from this week, my previous 4 have disappeared.

[glacial steeple]

Only from crafting OHs

[lofty depot]

Did blud craft an item and not know it takes sparks

Me confused

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch

didnt even have to tank a key

[glacial steeple]

Slay queen

[lofty depot]

Looks like a lot of keys were being tanked

[lucid olive]

same

took like 5 hours after reset probably

lmao

[teal sphinx]

you aint playing arms

but gz

[glacial steeple]

Ofc he plays with his arms? What do you mean?

How would he use keybinds or update the guide?

[lucid olive]

eye detector

like stephen hawking

[glacial steeple]

I tried that but I kept staring at Xalatath's Feet 🙁

[uncut roost]

Nothing has been crafted yet, went to craft mythic stick and sparks had DISAPPEARED

[drifting nova]

touch grass wtf

[lucid olive]

yeah i took an hour break at around 4:30pm to go outside

[lofty depot]

I guess email blizzord

[uncut roost]

[inland jetty]

did they fix the whistle?

[lofty depot]

Not on since yet so idk :p

Assume they will

[wild dune]

it's half value now

[still iris]

what whistle?

[wild dune]

Mine at 263 champ is giving 200 mastery.

[drifting nova]

tfw my best vault drop is a vers staff

[lofty depot]

Half value for DPS or

[drifting nova]

haste vers makes me want to throw up

[normal pilot]

they didn't fix anything just blanket nerf the value and hope problem goes away

[wild dune]

yeah what gas said

proc rate seems roughly the same

[lofty depot]

That's updated on simc I assume

[digital berry]

chat does a bountiful delve lose the bountiful status if i do not open the chest at the end?

[drifting nova]

why no open

[lofty depot]

Knowing blizzard, prob

[digital berry]

cause its a t3

im getting them up to t8

[lofty depot]

Smh, so far behind

[digital berry]

well yeah i got back to the us on monday

[cobalt junco]

no one kill dragons on boomy thanks

[round field]

not even rank 1

whats ur point

[cobalt junco]

so close! so sad

[lucid olive]

only ilvl parses matter now

[normal pilot]

lowest ilevel parse

[tardy hare]

do we have info how many catalyst charges you can get with the achi?

[lucid olive]

nothing confirmed

[tardy hare]

has there been anyone who has gotten 2?

[lucid olive]

yes

but idk about any more than that

[lofty depot]

Guy in my guild last week got 2 from pvp slamming bg blitz

[tardy hare]

ok. so at least 2 confirmed

[lofty depot]

But I think it's capped to 2 per activity but can't confirm until someone slams all those things and finds out

[tardy hare]

ok. 2 per week is enough

[drifting nova]

the only parse thats ever mattered smh

[maiden pasture]

Someone in my guild claimed they got 4 charges dropped from m+ today

[sullen dove]

question, does starfire after eclipse increase starfall damage

and starsurge*

[lofty depot]

No

[drowsy cape]

do yall ST or AOE bosses that share health pools? IE Saprish in seat

[pallid bay]

4 is max ive seen i think

[normal pilot]

maybe they copied legion legendaries code

[lofty depot]

Surge is better on 2t

[drowsy cape]

then starfall on 3? for shared health pools

[lofty depot]

Shared doesn't matter me thinks

[shell coral]

i have a dumb question, in lunar eclipse with 2t am i still casting starfire over wrath?

[lofty depot]

U press the builder tied to the eclipse

[shell coral]

ok i thought so i just needed to confirm lol

[lofty depot]

It's better to be in solar but ye

[dim root]

are eclipses snapshot?

[pallid bay]

shared dosnt make any difference

[lofty depot]

No

[pallid bay]

you're still doing damage to 2 targets

[lofty depot]

Shit updates dynamically

[dim root]

tyty

[dense steeple]

xd

[upbeat bridge]

Is there any add on to replace the old innervate weakaura?

[timid rover]

Hey, is the convoke bug on Chimaerus fixed?

[lofty depot]

Not currently

Can just have them whisper u and listen

[lofty depot]

Yes

[timid rover]

Nice

[stable raven]

is the drum trinket sim bait or actually good? seems weird it looks so much better than maisara trinket in my sim... https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dQN6AdRpDcR5WNd9WASTJr

[twin lotus]

its just stats

[lofty depot]

Well on use trinket so be goodan

[normal pilot]

vessel is awful until they fix it

[lofty depot]

What do be aittle bait is the vessel trinket which ur not gonna be picking up said orbs

[normal pilot]

no it's not bait

hence why it's simming so poorly

[drowsy sedge]

how similar is boomie played to last tier?

[stable raven]

aight thx, drum it is i guess 😄

also wdym on use, isnt the on use just to change the stat?

[delicate perch]

yes arctic can't read be nice

[stable raven]

its cool, i also cant read

[tight mesa]

did anyone know how to see 4p damage ?

[leaden sleet]

so i use eclipse on my opener with keeper after treants ?

do*

[fiery veldt]

is vessel so bad its not even on the list or just not simmed yet?

b4 u yell at me i saw the convo above

my bad

[lofty depot]

well if u have worse trinkets....

[lofty depot]

what the helly

[fiery veldt]

idk if they are worse its the rep trinket and freightrunners the on use crit

[lofty depot]

rep trinket is op until they fix the flag

wcyd

[modest flame]

are crafted radiant sdpark items upgradeable only with crests during the first craft?

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

its base is champ and u can upgrade with hero or myth crests

in which case u shouldnt use hero u should just use myth crests

[modest flame]

ah because the heros just poof check

[trail heath]

ABUNDANCE

[covert valley]

If I play elunes Chosen. I just use solar wrath when I am not in eclipse or incar and there is just one Target. Is this Right ?

[potent ore]

anyone know if there is a good tracker for when eclipse is active other than having to look at buff bar?

[vital swift]

does anybody know what ui is this?

[lofty depot]

have u considered asking them

[lofty depot]

starfire better in incarn on st i think

[vital swift]

nah its from random stream

[drifting tinsel]

I’ve been starfall spamming in keys and I feel like my starfall does nothing compared to other boomies I’ve seen. Does anyone know why? I have no tier pieces and I’m 257 ilvl

[covert valley]

Yes - so I am close to Never press wrath in a m+ Szenario ? 😅

[lucid olive]

looks like fragui

[lofty depot]

well tier might be some reaason

the other might be other things

[lean pecan]

Quick question, isnt alleria's trink our like BIS BIS trink? at least for raiding scenario? a fellow guildie told me Vaelgor's and Chimaeru's are way better than that one

[drifting tinsel]

My single target feels fine on bosses but aoe seems to be lacking I can’t keep up with other classes

[covert valley]

What key Level do you Play ?

[dull dust]

why do we have moons but no suns

[drifting tinsel]

Right now I’m all over the place but I did 10s and 9s yesterday to get keystone master

[dull dust]

why cant i drop the sun on people

[nimble tangle]

Yeah same I noticed my AOE is far less than others like devour or MM

my keys are 10-12

[drifting tinsel]

The overall after my dungeons starfall is barely above moon fire but I’ve seen others where their starfall is far ahead of moon fire

[royal zenith]

holy moly balance is trash

[drifting tinsel]

thats my overall it just feels like im doing so much wrong

[harsh herald]

What key level are you running?

[drifting tinsel]

thats specific pic was from a 5 seat but typically i run higher

[harsh herald]

Trying going meteor storm if those are easy push keys

If you're asking why youre starfall's not doing a lot

[drifting tinsel]

what should i drop to go meteor

[harsh herald]

It's a choice node with kindling

Which you're probably running

[drifting tinsel]

oh yeah im running kindling

[harsh herald]

Yeah play around with it to see what you prefer

If trash is living a while kindling is worth it

If it's dying super fast go meteor storm

[drifting tinsel]

i usually play with my friend whos windwalker and he clears trash pretty fast so meteor may be the move

[digital berry]

It’s 5s at the end of the day, you can play with your feet and time them just fine

[fiery kindle]

my dream comes true

[drifting tinsel]

the 10s and 9s though is where my damage is still super far behind on aoe but on bosses im top

[harsh herald]

yo you need to share

I'm fearing myself every time i press my button because I don't have any better trinkets

[shy knot]

🥶

[true viper]

Crafting trinket today

[lofty depot]

ribbon is good yes and fights lasting longer makes it better

[lofty depot]

blud is looking to bench ride holy

[lucid olive]

[fiery kindle]

uh

[jaunty blaze]

what is loot

[digital berry]

Idk I was lvl 80 yesterday

I’m 222 ilvl

[humble talon]

got hc shoulders

[sudden flame]

yo leave some gear for the rest of us man

[lofty depot]

i lied pugging sucks

these peopel dont ahve thumbs

[viscid rampart]

If I have 2 set piece and 2 catalyst charges. Should I use the 2 charges on my champion gear to get the 4 piece? I heard something about u can get extra charges easier after u get the 4 pieces. I'm thinking that I could add these extra charges to hero/mtyh track pieces from m+ in the future

[pliant moon]

Yeah get 4 set asap. Charges will start dropping from all content once you have 4 set.

[viscid rampart]

Ok thx!

[digital berry]

Did they decide to just throw cata and sparks at us this season or what

Why do I already have 4 sparks

[lofty depot]

theyre essentially half sparks

[digital berry]

Oh

We crafting 2h this season or is there some 1h bis drop in raid ?

[pallid bay]

lil gup spender

[lucid olive]

yeah in 4 weeks i'll be behind

[pallid bay]

lil gup has it all figured out

[lucid olive]

no i made it up

[pallid bay]

lil gupper

[lucid olive]

you can make up whatever you want as long as you say it with conviction

just look at politicians

[pallid bay]

[dense steeple]

gamz do you have a 10 windrunner

[lucid olive]

wrong region

[dense steeple]

i didnt ask

[digital berry]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dragon-ball-misinformation-spread-misinformation-dance-gif-17236427185293235164

[pallid bay]

login

[dense steeple]

i asked what key you had

[lucid olive]

10 skyreach

[lucid olive]

how do you have a +2 bud

[dense steeple]

could be worse!

[lucid olive]

go blacksmithing vendor and fill your bags with hammers then push someones key to an 11 and sell your hammers

[lost wedge]

Does someone got a good site to see the dps cycle? im doing bad and i dont understand what is the problem

[lucid olive]

link to guides in pins

[lost wedge]

Oo

thx

[delicate perch]

Shameless plug

[lofty depot]

first try?!?!?1

no just 70 more dungeons to get the other one

[harsh herald]

haste/mastery one doesn't exist

I have 6 occlusions in my bags right now

Just to see how many it takes

[pallid bay]

idk its threesune

did a delve or something

[teal sphinx]

hey

im just him

dont look at how many there are

[digital berry]

13

[delicate perch]

10

And somehow he’s 2 behind

[dense steeple]

first try

[lofty depot]

2/6

fuggn noob

[dense steeple]

was quite literally my first and only nxus point 🙂

havent gone back yet

too busy farming widnrunners

[odd solstice]

Hello! Did convoke get fixed on chimaerus ?

[lofty depot]

yes

[odd solstice]

thank you

[lofty depot]

thats an FAQ,,, but doubt anyone would look at the pin or not

[pseudo merlin]

Anyone know what happens if you finish a depletod key

do you get less loot?

[odd solstice]

I'm sorry I did not see it in dreamgrove

[lofty depot]

no what i was saying is its an actual FAQ but if we put it in the FAQ i doubt anyone reads it

[odd solstice]

Oh ok got it 🙂

[molten yoke]

is 2 piece a big upgrade?

[dense steeple]

yes

[red nymph]

APL no longer sending eclipse on pull before incarn?

[lofty depot]

yea

think its within margin or 0.2 better

[red nymph]

feels better to just send at the start too imo. takes the RNG out of TotC proccing between first eclipse and first incarn

[lost roost]

Is Nullaeus ?? killable on balance druid? Unless I'm missing something, his cast comes up quicker than our 45 second interupt. Feels bad having to do it on resto.

[digital berry]

Can always sim it

[digital berry]

Most ?? Are done in bear 10 times easier

[lucid olive]

No

It's impossible

[blazing karma]

Are we back to no FoE this week?

[lucid olive]

nobody knows

[pallid bay]

owning..

[lucid olive]

holy

[pallid bay]

0 hero spent no weapon crafted..

[lucid olive]

[stone oasis]

Team, how do i sim for M+ on raidbots?

says unsupported/unreliable fight styles when i put dungeon slice

[royal zenith]

gotta love competing with tanks in m+

[stark meteor]

if i'm rocking ilvl236 should i just spam m0 or try to push keys for gear

[buoyant ridge]

Competing with tanks? I thought bamkin was poggers now wtf

[stone oasis]

things die too fast in low keys

[buoyant ridge]

[royal zenith]

mobs die too fast

bosses take forever

[lofty depot]

bosses do be taking forever

[buoyant ridge]

Would be better to run kotg in lower keys?

[royal zenith]

stop trying to look cool arctic

[lofty depot]

but thats cuz my dps dont have tumbs

[royal zenith]

doesn't really matter

[buoyant ridge]

Oh oki

[royal zenith]

ST damage for kotg aint that much better

[molten yoke]

u got 4 piece? @lofty depot

[lofty depot]

ye

[royal zenith]

show the log of the key

not details

bring it in arctic

[buoyant ridge]

[digital berry]

Are we as per usual utter dog in raid ?

[royal zenith]

nah raid you're kinda fine afaik

maybe it changes with more gear

[molten yoke]

is crafted weapon owrth going for this early if u have 2 piece or more?

worth

[royal zenith]

what does tierset have to do with the crafted weapon?

[molten yoke]

idk lol

[lofty depot]

uhhh i aint logging this shit dawg

my ram >

[royal zenith]

in general crafted weapon is just good bucks for crests, it's efficient

and good power gain early on