loving it
#balance
grim crater
drifting nova
for what
vast nimbus
@lofty depot i didnt know u raid with zach, i told him to tell u i said hai 
lofty depot
first tier
vast nimbus
we love zach
dreamy cove
would feral do better
vast nimbus
i did 113k with no tier last week 
delicate perch
ur cracked
vast nimbus
as feral
delicate perch
io check @vital hound
delicate perch
4pc acquired
dense steeple
splits already lookin grim boys
vital hound
i think weve had like 7 weapons drop lol
dense steeple
3 tier bosses no leather
vital hound
please censor your slurs
vital hound
crazy work
drifting nova
yes
vital hound
what trinkets you got
fiery kindle
oh, log!!
delicate perch
1/1
delicate perch
normal pilot
healing parse?
teal sphinx
dps parse
lofty depot
what trinkets you got
champ vaelgors and the funny trinket
ill go farm charm tomorrow or thursday
lol apparently theres a bug when u try to go into dreamrift, if ur raid is in combat u get ported back to your hearthstone
vital hound
thats decent
vital hound
nice world quest trinkets buddy
wcyd
pseudo merlin
get drops
pseudo merlin
Bellular said there's a bug in the game for weeks now where some chars are only receiving duplicate slot drops
So delete and go again might be the play
vital hound
lmao
dense steeple
good job you beat the other 3 arms wars
pseudo merlin
lmao
Blizzard confirmed there's something fucky going on with duplicates so its not entirely made up
and it extends to vault
or rather they said they're aware and looking into it
delicate perch
lbozo
teal sphinx
just because the next spec has 600 more parses
and it has the lowest amount of people playing it
doesnt meant shit
delicate perch
just because the next spec has 600 more parses
show # in raid 
delicate perch
no I mean like against your raid
drifting nova
I'll fix that arms count no worries
pseudo merlin
NA is doing +15s and we're still on maintenance
fr?
pseudo merlin
yea
is there like only a few omega pumpers or are the civilians also able to already get that high
delicate perch
<@129188899741237248> 2101
close 
delicate perch
pause
teal sphinx
delicate perch
2 of those specs are not like the others....
vital hound
close <:monkaGUN:484595871871401985>
keys dont exist man
its insane
done like 4 aa
teal sphinx
fiery kindle
is there like only a few omega pumpers or are the civilians also able to already...
+13's easy, +14 omega pumpers i guess
teal sphinx
imagine losing to arms
pseudo merlin
+13's easy, +14 omega pumpers i guess
bet
vital hound
ya we leveled 4 keys to qucikly get cata before break
dude my first key after 4pc
stark meteor
😦 i gotta get geared or i'll be left behind with keystones
stark meteor
still only 234ilvl
fiery kindle
Does anyone have any logs I can check out? I'm bored.
vital hound
I sent it on rat items for ach
ya im 3pc champ
peak robin
can someone explain me when to us eeach eclipse
and wheter to use wrath or starfire
dense steeple
dreamgrove.gg can
stark meteor
the dreamgrove guide is pretty comprehensive
dense steeple
stark meteor
is there any solid recommendation for low keystones vs high keystones talents? i really like how elunes chosen is playing but im not oppoesd to keeper of the grove
i feel like an absolute tickler in m0 but this may also be attributed to my dogshit ilvl
fiery kindle
@lofty depot Do you like Balance in M+? Did the single-target buff work out?
peak robin
alr ty boys
fiery kindle
alr ty boys
I think you should read Dreamgrove first and then analyze your logs; this will speed up your prog. The new rotation is a bit different
peak robin
pretty sure womt get messed up
cuz i dont even know the old rotation
cuz i jiust started playing wow few weeks ago
lol
would save up the trouble
fiery kindle
cuz i jiust started playing wow few weeks ago
pseudo merlin
is there any solid recommendation for low keystones vs high keystones talents? i...
Yeah leave the low keys asap (it takes like 2 runs atm)
or 3
2>5>8
molten yoke
stark meteor
if i'm stuck around 234-236ilvl, should i just bite the bullet and buy crafted gear?
molten yoke
how can i approve? no tier and feel like im doin somethin wrong
fiery kindle
I'm a bit confused, why go Solar Eclipse for 3 targets
pseudo merlin
if i'm stuck around 234-236ilvl, should i just bite the bullet and buy crafted g...
enough for the key level where HC pieces start dropping, might have a hard time getting in and might have to do your own keys, but doable
digital berry
i need party / raid frame recommendations
pseudo merlin
if you're rich go ahead, i probably wouldnt do it
tulip snow
I had a legendary last pull in my normal casual group where I tanked the boss for the last minute of the fight 😄
stark meteor
i see i see
tulip snow
who said balance can't do anything
stark meteor
it might just be worth m0 and heroics to fill in my 201ilvl gaps
pseudo merlin
Just do one m0 and start pushing your key
Or maybe you can grab a free key from panda, not sure anymore
stark meteor
i'll have to see once eu reset is over :P
drifting nova
if i'm stuck around 234-236ilvl, should i just bite the bullet and buy crafted g...
prey, m0, probably m2 idk
stark meteor
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/silvermoon/gaslite?boss=3176&spec=Balance&class=Druid i'm well below average!! :D
drifting nova
login and see
fiery kindle
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Nx4kacJpfV9AD8ZL?fight=21&type=damage-done&...
Celestial is your big cooldown. You should read guide . Dont convoke without celestial
stark meteor
don't think so, tried to log on after eating and said no servers available
molten yoke
Celestial is your big cooldown. You should read guide . Dont convoke without cel...
gotcha okay thank you
stark meteor
yep eu still down
pseudo merlin
login and see
when will servers be up
cunning bronze
Guys! i need some serious help before i lose my mind. First of all i need to say that ive tried all commands for this in game, still does not help. The problem is that i only see my "main" abilities as floating damage number. I dont see dots/bleeds, i dont see my hunter pet damage/my lock pet damage or imps. I only see the damage of my main big abilities. But i want to see every damage possible if thats understandable. Ive tried for a few days, but idk how to fix it without reseting my entire UI or wipe my WTF and cache folder. And suggestions or experience with this?
pseudo merlin
that info used to be on the launcher
dense steeple
new best parses 
fiery kindle
gotcha okay thank you
@lofty depot is more knowledgeable; I think he'll check your logs once he sees them and has some free time
molten yoke
appreciate all the help!
pseudo merlin
Guys! i need some serious help before i lose my mind. First of all i need to say...
I mean this sounds like just an addon issue? OR type "combat text" into options
stark meteor
when will servers be up
not sure when they went down but i'd assume 30mins to an hour until they're back up :)
stark meteor
no clue, i'm from na but play on eu
drifting nova
@pseudo merlin 
pseudo merlin
i dont want to hear your wc song
stark meteor
all my friends play on eu 🥲
drifting nova
think it was like wod/legion I thought about just starting again
pseudo merlin
wow deals with 200-300ms really well but its still noticeable
stark meteor
make new friends so you dont have to deal with insane delay lag
it's not too bad all things considered
only bad part is i can't raid, but i don't really enjoy it
all i care about is m+
pseudo merlin
oh right that would be hard with the time dif
although there are day and or night raiding guilds
not many, but they do exist
drifting nova
do they tho
stark meteor
ooh i'll have to look into that
pseudo merlin
idk im not in them
idk what people use to look for guilds nowadays but I always used wowprogress
drifting nova
@pseudo merlin answer me 
pseudo merlin
sure bud
drifting nova
half were not doing aotc
only 1 was a real mythic one that I thought about
but the guild name was
miss mewith that
drifting nova
answer you what
listened to the wc song?
lofty depot
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Nx4kacJpfV9AD8ZL?fight=21&type=damage-done&...
sorry raiding and then m+ after
maybe at like midnight
fiery kindle
maybe at like midnight
pump it arctic!!
molten yoke
@lofty depot sounds good
pseudo merlin
only 1 was a real mythic one that I thought about
should i make my world famous 3 am pasta with potatoes and ketchup
normal pilot
why potatoes
pseudo merlin
listened to the wc song?
no
normal pilot
go all out and use potato chips
fiery kindle
liquid boomk log, if u interest
pseudo merlin
If I had potato chips I wouldnt have to cook would I
potato chips and ketchup go hard af
hollow mist
potato chips and ketchup go hard af
I support this endeavor
pseudo merlin
🤝
drifting nova
ok but what do YOU mean
pseudo merlin
Kekkers is an islander, he doesn't know any better
pseudo merlin
ok but what do YOU mean
by what
drifting nova
potato chips
pseudo merlin
Gastank brought up potato chips, not me
exotic perch
guys my guild is famous
viral cliff
is convoke fixed yet on chimmychanga
pseudo merlin
gamers
lofty depot
is convoke fixed yet on chimmychanga
yes
viral cliff
hot
lofty depot
but thats silly were supposed to be padding
viral cliff
pseudo merlin
@drifting nova @normal pilot little update. Decided to make pasta with pepper/salt/peperoncino, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, grana padano and pork neck instead of ketchup and potato
massive banger
drifting nova
the quantity of pasta
pepper/salt/peperoncino, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, grana padano
ruined
tacit oriole
Can we send hero crests on hero gear now? Since we are using myth crest for staff?
drifting nova
ima go make beans on toast to cleanse that eyesore
normal pilot
huh is kekkers british
pseudo merlin
yes
pseudo merlin
the quantity of pasta
Why do you assume that I just used a gallon of olive oil or something
and not an amount of all those ingredients totalling like max 10% of the quantity of pasta
pseudo merlin
huh is kekkers british
no way you didnt know this
pseudo merlin
Can we send hero crests on hero gear now? Since we are using myth crest for staf...
from 3/6 to 6/6 only
heavy iris
Can we send hero crests on hero gear now? Since we are using myth crest for staf...
send hero crests ya but wait till the 266 slot drops in +10's to save 20 crests
pseudo merlin
pepper/salt/peperoncino, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, grana padano
Less ruined than dry au naturel pasta with plain potats?
tacit oriole
gotch gotcha. Thanks guys
eternal salmon
hey guys im a balance noob, im at about 250 ilvl and my single target damage feels terrible. is there anything i could be doing wrong?
drifting nova
Less ruined than dry au naturel pasta with plain potats?
no beans, unlucky, decided on kievs 
and no you dont double up your carbs wtf pasta OR potato
not both
drifting nova
hey guys im a balance noob, im at about 250 ilvl and my single target damage fee...
st bad
pseudo merlin
and no you dont double up your carbs wtf pasta OR potato
says who
leaden seal
someone explain why ive gotten 3 hero 1 handers
pseudo merlin
someone explain why ive gotten 3 hero 1 handers
game bug that may or may not have been confirmed by blizzard (they're looking into it) regarding duplicate loot for a lot of but not all characters
pseudo merlin
or maybe youre just unlucky
leaden seal
or maybe youre just unlucky
im also 30 1h out of 50 champ pieces
pseudo merlin
youve gotten a total fo 50 champ pieces of these past days/weeks and 30 of them were 1h?
pseudo merlin
leaden seal
fml
stark meteor
yeah honestly
dense steeple
splits this week was not a success either
2 pieces of leather tier dropped
but its the piece everyone got in vault 🙂
drifting nova
I still only have 1 tier piece
it was a warbound lfr drop..for hunters/shamans
🙈
dense steeple
all our leather boys are 1pc rn except 1
drifting nova
like atleast give me the class I play blizzard
not going to level my shaman for a while either
uncut roost
glacial steeple
Devastating
drifting nova
blizzard learning things from hot ticket trinkets..
that everyone and their nan wants
dreamy cove
means you'll get mythic tier
fiery kindle
Come on, open up the servers
surreal sorrel
5am
pseudo merlin
ok so they're trolling
surreal sorrel
But they didn't
pseudo merlin
Obama?!"?
surreal sorrel
NA Treatment
rotund stream
Is there a specific place to post log help?
pseudo merlin
here is fine
lofty depot
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Nx4kacJpfV9AD8ZL?fight=21&type=damage-done&...
u dont convoke liek this ever
also ur playing convoke on 2t boss
but none the less
the opener is to enter eclipse and spend asp
ur not using any other cds
i need u to press CA
u send convoke 3 times without ca
u should likely read a guide about aligning cds togethere
sonic surge
is DG outdated? are we still chasing gaze of alnseer as an alternative to ribbon?
drifting nova
what time EU servers supposed to come up
go back to sleep
lofty depot
you trees on CD...
you CA with trees always
and you convoke with CA
lofty depot
is DG outdated? are we still chasing gaze of alnseer as an alternative to ribbon...
gaze no
sonic surge
so what do we want to run for raid fights 5m+ and what to run for m+ now? bis wise
fiery kindle
arctic, need help
lofty depot
so what do we want to run for raid fights 5m+ and what to run for m+ now? bis wi...
- you can look at hte list he posted and make some decisions
pseudo merlin
go back to sleep
its 3 am for you buddy
fiery kindle
why?
lofty depot
- u can sim yourself and see what comes up, aoe sims are tho so ur gonna have to make some decisions
sonic surge
1. you can look at hte list he posted and make some decisions
u mean the DG list? its outdated isnt it, it ranks gaze at 3
lofty depot
charm is good from MC
lofty depot
u mean the DG list? its outdated isnt it, it ranks gaze at 3
why does gaze being at 3 mean its outdated?
pseudo merlin
why are you making bangers at 3am
drifting nova
I ran out of beans? like I said
sonic surge
is DG outdated? are we still chasing gaze of alnseer as an alternative to ribbon...
@lofty depot thats why my first question was IS IT outdated
drifting nova
why are you making bangers at 3am
4am are you a time traveller?
lofty depot
and no, no one knows whats gonna be good in m+
sonic surge
meaning its not
okie dokie
fiery kindle
i told u before
oh i dont remember sorry
fiery kindle
cuz its better
sounds good
lofty depot
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Nx4kacJpfV9AD8ZL?fight=21&type=damage-done&...
ur casting starfire on this boss, the only time i thought about that is when the orbs got gripped and i had a free starfire
otherwise that just never happens
lofty depot
sounds good
we sim things and then sim says "solar better on x targets"
pseudo merlin
4am are you a time traveller?
lofty depot
same when u look at surging for 2t vs 3
drifting nova
isnt italy +1?
lofty depot
why, probably because starfire is shit
pseudo merlin
+1 what
drifting nova
dull dust
unfortunate
glacial steeple
Sorry to hear that
drifting nova
my condolences
pseudo merlin
uhm rasist?
lofty depot
ok
fiery kindle
they forgot eu servers
pseudo merlin
yes?
pseudo merlin
whats ur point
drifting nova
no way you havent changed your time
lofty depot
u dont cast foe and trees like that ever
lofty depot
we eclipse on opener to get it rolling.... u press foe and trees prior to ca
fiery kindle
rwf team
glacial steeple
And the instant wrath baby
drifting nova
you went backwards not forwards
pseudo merlin
im literally an hour ahead
drifting nova
you're bringing me down to your level
so I shall stop
I do not have the experience
pseudo merlin
btw I agree with ur kazzak take now
drifting nova
its bad
pseudo merlin
I met an absolute specimen yesterday
lofty depot
drifting nova
well most
fiery kindle
Balance Druid made the team 🔥
drifting nova
maybe na has a similar thing
pseudo merlin
gonna change my name from "read the pin" to "Read the guide"
idk when im helping someone I always start off by asking if they've read the guide
you should
A lot of people don't know about them or where to find them
drifting nova
gonna change my name from "read the pin" to "Read the guide"
wheres the guide?
pseudo merlin
And then a lot are just also lazy
glacial steeple
Tbf its it’s I the pin
lofty depot
i forgot its a new expact and we got frogs
glacial steeple
In*
lofty depot
stoic fog
do we also spend are starsurgers/stafalls to empty AP? or just to prevent it from overcapping (aka, just pressing it once then starfire back up, then star surg e once, etc alternating until CDs is back?)
lofty depot
depends when / whgat ur talking about
stoic fog
what are the options =X
lofty depot
theres an art to pooling
stoic fog
oh god...
drifting nova
and pooping
lofty depot
right now the sim kinda doesnt cuz of the amount of procs we have
but in raid... u have to
but spending to empty is generally never advised unless ur slammign at the start of eclipse
u generally always want some asp to move
stoic fog
right
omg
i've been doing it rwong thennnn
bc of starlod
lord*(
i thought we were trying to fit as much we can to maintain 3 stacks so i thought i had to spam it fast
lofty depot
in most cases ill see new players dumping like this
which is basically building to then full dumping
stoic fog
i see
drifting nova
is starfall on the proc still done
lofty depot
drifting nova
or am I behind
stoic fog
ugh i use EC for raid too since the other hero talent is too ahrd 🙁
what about for M+ pool or no pool?
pseudo merlin
or am I behind
yes
unkempt tree
its boomy a little bit low on m+?
pseudo merlin
how long are you in italy for
until I die?
drifting nova
WHYS THE TIME NOT CHANGED THEN WTF
pseudo merlin
Or until Russia allows me in
pseudo merlin
wdym
I told you I'm in the future
I've got 1 leg in each timezone
I'm literally timerunner
drifting nova
Or until Russia allows me in
what
pseudo merlin
I wanna live in Yakutsk
drifting nova
oh thought you meant allowed to into romania
pseudo merlin
Russia and Romania are different countries
drifting nova
I know that, I play map games
coarse lodge
So, I read on dreamgrove guide keeper is = elune for + but wowhead says go elune, is it more a case of smaller pulls keeper, bigger pulls elune?
manic wagon
any resources if I want to play Full Moon build instead of Fury of Elune?
normal pilot
nah ppl generally don't make resources for suboptimal play
since at that point you're just playing w/e you want so do what's fun for you
pseudo merlin
#buffmoons
leaden seal
normal pilot
you can check the compendium, it might have new moon option in the rotation section
drifting nova
nah ppl generally don't make resources for suboptimal play
I will run it this week in heroic to prove you wrong
snow elm
what are the best trinkets from m+?
pseudo merlin
check compendium in pins
drifting nova
the ones you can get
rain jetty
Is wow down?
pseudo merlin
yes
rain jetty
until?
pseudo merlin
no idea
vital swift
How do I be better https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pQBG2dvyJV9ajYkW?fight=3...
dont spam sf, use eclipse charges.
check opener in rotation section of compendium
pseudo merlin
an hour ago
rain jetty
gmgm
vital hound
@wicked shuttle gz
vital hound
jaunty blaze
boomie so good they dont even need it for world firsts
pseudo merlin
why did you slack on the pvp?
wicked shuttle
bc pvp sucks
jaunty blaze
real
pseudo merlin
tsk tsk
drifting nova
wdym just convoke and win
wicked shuttle
das right
drifting nova
wish convoke was better
wicked shuttle
i think convoke with control is actually pretty playable on that fight
grizzled dagger
are the servers down atm? 
jaunty blaze
apparently so
pseudo merlin
are the servers down atm? <:sus:1084132807632244776>
technically not
drifting nova
my import had no convoke, I cried
pseudo merlin
its the login that's not working
grizzled dagger
drifting nova
making me play hearthstone wtf
pseudo merlin
what are they even good for
selling trees
jaunty blaze
drifting nova
Darksorrow is a pvp server
y u shitpost
jaunty blaze
i meant NA
pseudo merlin
i meant NA
Nothing in that case
drifting nova
liquid still stalling mythic wtf
delicate perch
cowards
jaunty blaze
splits 
pseudo merlin
liquid has all the time in the world now considering EU is still down
The race is pretty much won at this point
NA advantage gg.....
lofty depot
how long has eu beenb down
pseudo merlin
almost 2 hours
lofty depot
thats the same time silly
jaunty blaze
true
drifting nova
realised earlier I didnt do a single algathar this week
jaunty blaze
how do you feel about that
drifting nova
conflicted
jaunty blaze
😔
drifting nova
perturbed
vital hound
@delicate perch
dreamy cove
is jundie's plater showing enrages as dispellable border and not enrage border for anyone else
lofty depot
is jundie's plater showing enrages as dispellable border and not enrage border f...
my jundies shows the icon in the enrage area
which means its dispellable
lofty depot
why are tehre no items in the vault
did u do ocntent
dreamy cove
oh I meant border color only, I think top left is default area right?
lofty depot
yea that happens
sturdy tapir
Hi, would you rather take set item or Gaze of the alnseer from the vault? Sims are slightly in favor of set bonus but that is just matter of time to collect it from other sources, with trinket it might take much longer as its good for many classes.
lofty depot
gaze isnt ur best trinket
sturdy tapir
I know but with S-tier ones it will be even harder to put a hands on 😄
lofty depot
if u wanna chill and not have tier i suppose thats a choice
well u can farm soulcatchers charm
and get roughly the same results
u still have to get tier slots to finish tier probably
sturdy tapir
I have LFR gloves in bag, so could get 2set instantly with it and together with 2nd catalyst (if KSM still gives that) I should be able to finish 4set witihin few days proly
lofty depot
well then if u have tier, take the trinket
i dont see the debate
if u have the ability to get 4p u take other items
if u dont, u take tier
u could however debate taking sockey over gaze
sturdy tapir
4 piece it would be only with item from GV
lofty depot
but do what u want
mother ruck
i prefer takign tier
and not leaving it up to rng
sturdy tapir
me too, just wasn't sure if I want to miss quite reasonable trinket but if soulcharm is that close, then I think it!s easy choice then after all 😄
lofty depot
esspecially right now when ur tier is so much of ur damage
sturdy tapir
youre right, thanks for the insight 🙂
versed cloak
i swear there was a line in the compendium that said the two hero talents were basically identical now its saying keepers is probably the pref for raid
fossil hull
Can balance kill Nullaeus? Even if i take the Light of the Sun talent to reduce solar beam by 15 seconds Nullaeus will have his one-shot up every 45 seconds or so.
lofty depot
i swear there was a line in the compendium that said the two hero talents were b...
Keeper is always preferred in raie
The fuck u wanna cast Starfire for
lofty depot
Can balance kill Nullaeus? Even if i take the Light of the Sun talent to reduce ...
Not currently no lol
drifting nova
The fuck u wanna cast Starfire for
if only there was a mechanic to speed up starfire casts hmmmmm
lofty depot
Yea tragic
pallid bay
what do i want in my vault
obtuse badger
pallid bay
royal zenith
bruh 
versed cloak
The fuck u wanna cast Starfire for
what makes ur brain prefer pressing wrath
pallid bay
guess this is head
lucid olive
what makes ur brain prefer pressing wrath
The cast time being less than an eternity
lofty depot
what makes ur brain prefer pressing wrath
The part that says casting a 2s cast that hits like a wet noodle is shit part
versed cloak
i like a lot of the elune stuff im not super fond of starfire either
i wish we could have the other cool moon stuff without it
lofty depot
The only people that like ec
Are the frogs that say moons/lazers are cool
And that's on jah
versed cloak
im assuming the convoke bug was fixed on the big guy in phase transition?
drifting nova
probably not
acoustic zealot
yall running EC for keys or keeper?
drifting nova
https://klipy.com/gifs/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-funny
getting overtaken by a dinosaur? gg
floral ocean
Keeper but our guardian druid is still flossing me on damage in 10-11s
spice roost
crafted weapon now simming almost 88k st
floral ocean
I just made mine tonight. Hopefully with 4pc the dungeons will be a little more fun
spice roost
4p blasts
floral ocean
Is that why I’m having a bad time in keys? LOL. I have two catalysts charges but still need one natural drop before I can make my 4 set
fossil otter
6
spice roost
ok ty
obtuse jungle
just wanted to know what is better for M+ rattle or starweaver, since they both have different playstyle it feels like and weaver make more HAILS OF STARS proc ? any debate yet ?
obtuse jungle
rattle seems good on pac when you can go up and stuff on M+ for sure but idk with the feeling that starweaver made it feel and also proc on the free starsurge that grant solstice also grranting solstice idk what is better overall ?
spice roost
ya i dont ss on packs tho
spice roost
eh
kindred pine
Do you even touch wrath with the Elunes chosen hero talents?
kindred pine
Lol
even on single target hahah?
So im basically just starfire spamming until i can either surge or fall xD?
normal pilot
it's better to wrath outside of eclipse even with EC
but you can also not do it for a small loss if you just cba
obtuse jungle
oh really ?
kindred pine
I just respecced for dungeons, anything in particular i might miss or look out for in dungeons?
Just noticed starfall can be overlapped
tiny nimbus
is gaze still good for us?
rain jetty
BRO GOT
NOT 1
BUT
xasdasadafsfa
2
MEANWHILE I GET
VERSAILITY WRIST AND BOOTS
livid jay
why u screaming
vital hound
is gaze still good for us?
stare is exceptionally good
round field
VERSAILITY WRIST AND BOOTS
skill issue
tiny nimbus
stare is exceptionally good
but its only champ. Anyway will sim it and choose what simming the highest
supple haven
I ended up with a wraps last week. Lucky enough my raid always has that 1 🥔 that always manages to die 
vital hound
why is stare better than gaze
idk @lofty depot is always staring at me
round field
weird american
vital hound
restive garden
Which missive do you guys use for 2h?
agile wraith
So for those who won't be getting the Myth Track Dagger from the raid do you plan to just make a guilded staff and keep that the entire season?
I was running some sims on it and it seems the crafted staff with sigil and crafted wrist with a lining is a very good option for the season?
royal zenith
I run haste mastery
then why does my character want crit?
are you even playing the game?
:)
round field
are you even playing the game?
no
but i opened rank 1 log on imperator and he runs haste mastery so
royal zenith
💀
agile wraith
I almost just want to run haste mastery to be lazy so I can switch to healer when I want to. I guess if I need to ill keep some crit gear to switch into.
royal zenith
1 out of 2
KEK
nah but actually, haste/mastery is always safe on bamkin
for crafting
round field
ur just complaining about my answer for the love of the game
royal zenith
Im just distracting myself from work
it was raining, my pants got wet
I have to work
recipe for disaster
round field
royal zenith
pure anger..
plush violet
guys help please cant decide
sim says one hand preyseekers, but isnt it better to craft a wep?
royal zenith
sim says one hand preyseekers, but isnt it better to craft a wep?
wdym better
long term, short term, crest efficiency
cause in general most casters will craft 2h weapon + use myth crests to up it for immediate gain
round field
wdym better
bigger number
royal zenith
if you really want to know, you upgrade the item via topgear - you 'craft' other items in topgear, sim the outcome
and research what would be the best option
but that's effort
:3
agile wraith
I had someone tell me to craft like 2 armor pieces with lining on them instead of a weapon first and I just could not see their logic at all. They said it was because there are so many good wep drops this season but I don't do mythic raid and I would have to hope for a myth wep from vault otherwise.
So I guess I am going to do myth crafted staff first and then do like wrist/bracer next.
I dont know if thats best long term not mythic raiding but I assume that embellish combo will varry me the entire season.
modest flame
is there a tl;dr on crafting weapon ?
agile wraith
even if you mythic raid
Yeah they mythic raid, which was why I was like HUH? I was so confused why they thought that would be better than crafting a a myth wep.
Hell I have a hero wep rn and all the sims I am running are still like myth crafted wep is far better than any other upgrade I could make.
vital hound
i think this someone is a goof
agile wraith
I guess they were thinking 2 pieces of gear < than 1 but yeah.
vital hound
they silly
round field
I guess they were thinking 2 pieces of gear < than 1 but yeah.
1 weapon > 2 non weapons
royal zenith
Long term crafting you take 2h mythic from raid/content into account
but you would need to sim a bunch of scenario's and just mix and match
it's kinda silly to plan for long term with how gearing works right now
agile wraith
So here's something that I feel is pretty subjective to the content you do/your gearing pace and content needs but I am still curious.
Do y'all try to do the whole thing where you hold all of your crests from like adventurervet/champion to try to save them for hitting the crest achievement or do you just send it?
Im trying to break myself out of the habit of wanting to hold all of my crests lol
round field
what achievment?
if ur thinking crest discount
what does holding adventurer and champ crests do
agile wraith
Like for being able to trade your veteren crest into champion crest if you have 250+ in every slot for example?
Cause if you save your crest you have more to upgrade up.
round field
doesnt really matter?
you cant go over the cap regardless
being able to trade up just lets you reach the cap while doing less content
halcyon verge
you can in a few limited circumstances, like if you kill nullaeus first time and are at cap already, but mostly true
round field
ye the delve one time crests are an exception
halcyon verge
good luck for eu vault looters today 😄
agile wraith
But yeah I get your point, I guess its actually silly to hold your crests. I guess I did that last expansion because I felt like I hit the crest achivements so quickly.
round field
was the same last xpac
the only thing i can rly think of that you can hold crests for is like
the turbo boobs patch
and then trade up and upgrade the stuff without having to do 50 keys
agile wraith
Maybe im just averse to spending my crests the same way I save 500 potions in final fantasy and then never use them and I have a crippiling problem lmao.
round field
royal zenith
doesnt really matter?
it kinda matters this tier
royal zenith
you want to spend all your lower crests on items first week to save crests on the new track
atm M+ opened up, so you can get 3/6 hero gear
but you want to upgrade hero gear all the way to 6/6 to save crests on mythic gear
round field
i suppose
but i was thinking that theres no point in saving crests
just didnt word it properly i suppose
royal zenith
adventerur/veteran/champion by now is kinda useless
yeah
it was good to hold hero crests, but this week you kinda want to start spending it on high value items
round field
hows m+ grind going deux
royal zenith
(trinkets as an example)
agile wraith
Okay I will get over my problem and go full send all of my champ crests haha.
royal zenith
round field
gg
royal zenith
champion gear it's good to just fully send the 400 crests you've gotten
royal zenith
it's a BLISS
halcyon verge
oh yeah
royal zenith
like genuinely
royal zenith
agree
agile wraith
As someone who grinded like a metric assload of those candle wax things season 1 TWW just to have them nerfed before I turned them in to get more Valorstones I agree entirely. (please tell me Im not the only one)
hollow mist
it's a BLISS
ur a blessing deux
royal zenith
royal zenith
dunno
hollow mist
dont ask me pal im a pvper
royal zenith
think it's like 287
pseudo merlin
huge
spice roost
285
pseudo merlin
thx
round field
no time
pseudo merlin
I used to do that
round field
busy beating wife
pseudo merlin
But like when you witness people ask stupid lazy questions day in day out, and you realise they just always get answered..
why effort when lazy solution
round field
i fear he has a point
warm briar
It’s 285
pseudo merlin
Thx!
spice roost
tbf takes just as much effort to ask the question and wait for a response then to look it up
pseudo merlin
nah cuz i only have to write and then continue multitasking
the wait isn't an active process
spice roost
its time tho
pseudo merlin
as long as it can be done while im doing something else its a dub
15k crafting recipe from end of dungeon bag?
jolly delta
tbf takes just as much effort to ask the question and wait for a response then t...
it's arguably more effort
pseudo merlin
interesting
delicate wharf
15k crafting recipe from end of dungeon bag?
Tailoroing one?
jolly delta
interesting
I got one and sold it for 74c by mistake
pseudo merlin
Tailoroing one?
jolly delta
I'll buy it from you
pseudo merlin
I got one and sold it for 74c by mistake
oof
delicate wharf
Yeah it's good
jolly delta
10k
delicate wharf
Got mine for 20
jolly delta
Help a friend
jolly delta
Ok deal
jolly delta
Logging in 2m
pseudo merlin
im about to go to bed
jolly delta
It's 10am wtf
jolly delta
pseudo merlin
oh theres like 10 now
jolly delta
That's why I sold it for so cheap
jolly delta
Scammed no but the enchant itself sells for like 3k on the AH
So probably not a bad investment
pseudo merlin
ye
jolly delta
I just want it cause tailoring is the only prof I'm doing
So I want to have it up-to-date
royal zenith
i fear he has a point
he does but
Ravec is someone who thinks of himself as smart
I expect more
walk the talk
jolly delta
Ok cool taking tier
sudden flame
👍
pale crescent
Hi i’d just wonder if i can use umbral embrace instead of FoE in ST fights and overall
pale crescent
It’s like FoE works poorly without inc or moon eclipse
And I don’t want moon eclipse anytime when it’s ST🥸
round field
ok but
pale crescent
Ah wait astral
dull dust
blizzard failure
round field
i dont remember this being asked so often
dull dust
or gamz fault
pale crescent
Shame on me:))
dull dust
i blame gamz
round field
i too blame gamz
game has been going downhill ever since he became bosssman here
coincidence?
i think not
pale crescent
Btw what’s the chance of getting heroic tier item from dwells
pale crescent
Random gave me only 1 tier piece
round field
unless you use the map
pale crescent
So I got chest form the vault but I feel like I’ll use cat for 2 piece
Having 260 gear lol
Ah that hurts
So only m+ spam is left
royal zenith
i cant like things on this disc
you would just react dumb 6 7 emotes
you will not trick us, mage
royal zenith
(same)
dull dust
vital hound
1 like and I skip hero tier to get champ trinket
shit trinket
pale crescent
:))
jolly delta
its actually a good opener
craggy sonnet
Hello, dear sir. Please work on incarn
pale crescent
Btw FoN and FoE share GCD
jolly delta
go back to the mines chance
dull dust
jolly delta
come back when were at 115k
round field
Can’t be used in the same macro.
i mean it can
but it wont cast both at the same time
pale crescent
I see
dull dust
i gotta raid when tonight
pale crescent
But then I pop both Incarnations:))
dull dust
mabey i do another hour
round field
uh
royal zenith
don't press it twice?
round field
just dont macro incarn to trees or foe?
royal zenith
^
round field
thats not very good
royal zenith
pale crescent
Ofc I can click it separately
royal zenith
why just no foe and no moons
dull dust
spec neither
royal zenith
I will just play 1 min convoke
round field
thast fine
delicate perch
bozo trinket
round field
ur casual andy
royal zenith
or AC if incarn
round field
can play what u want
round field
haste mastery goodest of stats
zinc lagoon
Hey guys, you recommend taking fom vault hero chest for catalyst swap o hero weap?
round field
vaulting hero weap doesnt sound very smart
zinc lagoon
I'm thinking about crafting the staff and taking the chest but ... not sure if i should save those crests for upgrades
flint sapphire
what would you take from here? 0 raid tier equiped in this moment :/
zinc lagoon
siming tells me to take the weap xD
royal zenith
what would you take from here? 0 raid tier equiped in this moment :/
ragebait?
delicate perch
yea because you haven't crafted a 285 weapon....
pale crescent
Btw which trinket is better? Locus or gaze
royal zenith
it's fine to not know stuff, but if you actually sim gear
you would know vaelgor's trinket is like 3k dps upgrade
pale crescent
And skipped gaze for the chest piece
zinc lagoon
royal zenith
the fuck
pale crescent
Ah so S-tier from the website is a joke?:)