balance

[drifting nova]

it just died

[pseudo merlin]

you gotta prog your way up to hc...

[drifting nova]

wanna try get 1 boss for reset idk

[echo field]

yeah that's kind of ok for M+ but still under estimates the value of boss damage

[normal pilot]

everyone else's made up 'bis' list is off 1t5m sims anyways you're fine using that too

[drifting nova]

with all this loot I aint getting

[pseudo merlin]

You really need to just read what I wrote again

[drifting nova]

no way noughts and crosses is hard

[pseudo merlin]

please call it tic tac toe like a normal person

nobody knows what noughts and crosses is

[drifting nova]

lost to a bot, gg me

[echo field]

i read it my dude, 1t5 underestimates the value of boss damage in M+

[echo field]

love you long time

[pseudo merlin]

Why are we talking about m+

im so confused

[drifting nova]

wtf isd a tic, a tac and a toe

[pseudo merlin]

I dont talk about minigames

[pseudo merlin]

its a minigame

[echo field]

the quote you linked me to was how to sim M+.....

[pseudo merlin]

no it wasnt

[drifting nova]

ok but define each word

[pseudo merlin]

Ok so you have tic

[drifting nova]

should call it terni lapilli

[pseudo merlin]

Is that Finnish

[drifting nova]

roman

three pebbles at a time

apparantly

according to wiki

[pseudo merlin]

wrong, I'm Roman

We dont call it that

[drifting nova]

roman at home

[pseudo merlin]

we call it X si O

[echo field]

you literally say, "For M+ you sim....."

[pseudo merlin]

I'm not going to continue this conversation

[drifting nova]

the irish way, ew

[pseudo merlin]

They need to teach reading comprehension in school again

[drifting nova]

I will be the adjunctor

[pseudo merlin]

Dont they call it potats and beer

[drifting nova]

wasting potatoes on a game?

[pseudo merlin]

you can eat them after

[drifting nova]

then they are dirty

[pseudo merlin]

no, you peel them after not before

[drifting nova]

they are still pourous

no wonder your spuds are shot

butchered pasta yet?

[pseudo merlin]

why is there a second U in your porous

[drifting nova]

[pseudo merlin]

Is that an islander thing?

[drifting nova]

you know why wizard man

(maybe I'm not sure)

I've questioned reality many times spelling

fourty is the other one

[pseudo merlin]

No that's a felony here

[drifting nova]

psst

I cold boil my pasta

[pseudo merlin]

what

how do you even cold boil in the first place

[drifting nova]

you know how you preheat ovens

to get them upto temp

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[drifting nova]

that but with pasta

[pseudo merlin]

wait you cant say that

[drifting nova]

pasta, water, pot

[pseudo merlin]

you can't talk about preheating ovens without getting sued by preheat

[pseudo merlin]

WAIT

YOU PUT THE PASTA IN THE WATER WHEN THE WATER IS STILL COLD?

[drifting nova]

TO COOK PASTA YOU BOIL THE WATER THEN ADD PASTA RIGHT?

YES

COLD BOIL

[pseudo merlin]

bro you cant do that

[drifting nova]

preheating ovens is old news, preheating pasta also old news

[delicate perch]

kekkers can't be real

[pseudo merlin]

kekkers is one of the first ai

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-confused-gif-24490283

[vital swift]

For what purpose

i cant imagine

i think you can configure it with arcUI
but for what on earth reason would you track FoE laser ????

[bitter bolt]

it generates ap

over duration

[vital swift]

yes just look at your ap bar ???

[pseudo merlin]

There's no reason to track FoE active/uptime

IT came out like 10 years ago, I dont remember ever tracking it

[drifting nova]

not that I ever did but I shouldve got a moon tracker

cant even do that now

[bitter bolt]

there are reasons to track it and it was included in pretty much every WA package before

[drifting nova]

cant wait for rwf to have basically was

[bitter bolt]

like this

many situations in high mobility to know when end

[drifting nova]

I keep having to find eclipse in buffs

[pseudo merlin]

why

[bitter bolt]

because it doesn't move fast

[obsidian fjord]

but at that point you have already used it

so you cant control it

i dont know what you mean even

[pseudo merlin]

So you want to know when it ends so that when you're in a situation where due to repositioning of yourr target you lose uptime on FoE but it might get back in range of a target for 0.8 sec of its duration, giving you another 4 asp?

I'm so lost

There is such a thing as too much information

You don't want to divert your attention like that

[obsidian fjord]

but

the resource from fury of elune

doesnt even require it to hit anything

[pseudo merlin]

yeah

[obsidian fjord]

@bitter bolt we need answers

cardinal pope man guy

[bitter bolt]

this is how it was always tracked before

[pseudo merlin]

That's not really relevant?

[bitter bolt]

i'm not here to explain high play situations where it was needed

[vital hound]

high play

[bitter bolt]

I'm asking if there is a way to get that feature

[vital hound]

@delicate perch get in

[pseudo merlin]

@lofty depot roll a d20

[obsidian fjord]

but what do u use it for

by the son the father and the holy spirit

[jaunty blaze]

gm bala dudu chatbox

[obsidian fjord]

god give me strength

[pseudo merlin]

gm mikey

[obsidian fjord]

grant your omniscience upon us @bitter bolt

[pseudo merlin]

OBR does nothing while I'm moving...

Blizzard????

[drifting nova]

I'm convinced its wrong half the time

[pseudo merlin]

just like you

gottem

[drifting nova]

true, turns out I cant play fury

[jaunty blaze]

Half is generous

[drifting nova]

am thoroughly average

[jaunty blaze]

They buff arms rejoice

[drifting nova]

its still dog

and is..a nerf

[jaunty blaze]

It's not much different from kotg opener

[tulip thorn]

does anyone know what this weird outline around my char is? i cant get rid of it ive tried everything

[obsidian fjord]

check antialiasing and character outline settings ingame

[round field]

i dont see anything

[obtuse badger]

Quick question, I read through the guides and watched the tettles video but I seem to struggle a bit.
When I play EC build in M+, I understood that I dump as much AP as possible during incarnation.
But when I’m just in a regular eclipse, do I only wanna use starfall or star surge when I’m about to cap AP? Right now I am spamming spenders as soon as available apart from pooling before next eclipse

[pseudo merlin]

i dont see anything

[round field]

both is fine

doesnt rly matter

[pseudo merlin]

no anti aliasing might be it

[round field]

dmg wise

[pseudo merlin]

thats crazy

[obsidian fjord]

no antialiasing is chad, but it may be the problem yes

[tulip thorn]

does it matter which one it is

[pseudo merlin]

the best your system can handle if you want things pretty

[obsidian fjord]

just try change it randomly

see if it goes away

[pseudo merlin]

FXAA low should be enough

[static sluice]

Right now in M0 you probably want to spend as much as possible as long as there are actually mobs alive to kill. Wenn stuff actually lives a little longer I agree it doesnt really matter

[tulip thorn]

ok its barely noticeable now

thanks

gamers

its time

[pseudo merlin]

I still notice it

[tulip thorn]

BARELY

[pseudo merlin]

try FXAA high

or CMAA

[tulip thorn]

that made it worse

[royal zenith]

Ravec acting like he knows stuff

[pseudo merlin]

Oh god he's here

[pseudo merlin]

what resolution are you on

[tulip thorn]

just trying all kinds of shit rn but im 1440

[pseudo merlin]

wow's anti aliasing is just kinda btw tbh

also taxing on gpu

[tulip thorn]

hmmm

is it lighting?

[pseudo merlin]

use CMAA 2 if you're going to use multisampling

No it's smoothing out of jagged edges

[tulip thorn]

gtocha

[pseudo merlin]

those jagged edges are probably what's causing the weird glow

in any case your char should be looking like this

you're holding like 2 weird fisty things

ok this is actually coincidentally banger lighting

ugly ass mh/oh mog ruining it

[delicate perch]

high play

[pseudo merlin]

is bare leveling still op

or do I go bamkin @lucid olive

[jaunty blaze]

Bamkin leveling is chill

[pseudo merlin]

bet

[indigo ether]

@lucid olive for your ui. Why isn't it showing me chat

Or anyone that uses the ui

Its not showing general or party chat

[jolly delta]

Gamz uses discord

[indigo ether]

wdym

[loud kettle]

Gamz is too cool for a chat frame I fear

@indigo ether click into that msg and see if it helps

[tulip thorn]

@pseudo merlin

cursed fuckin image

[indigo ether]

ty!

[jolly delta]

I'm jk

but it's probably either an issue with the chat cvars or edit mode yeah

[twin lotus]

holy shit that 's a nice pic

is that what enemies see when u cast sunfire

[vital hound]

why are you in dorn

[jaunty blaze]

Poor

[delicate perch]

[sullen dove]

Any good video guides on rotation, not that many on YouTube I’ve seen tettles but it’s not as clear as I’d liken

[royal zenith]

what's not clear about it?

and it's probably the only 'deep-dive' video out there atm

[drifting nova]

its 3 buttons

[sullen dove]

It’s more I want a clean opener on boss fights and a 2 min run through of how the rotation plays out on a dummy

Thats how I practiced mage back in the day and got really good logs like that

[delicate perch]

That sounds like a whole lotta work that I doubt anyone would want to do unfortunately

[sullen dove]

😂

I’ll just try my best

Fun spec though

[delicate perch]

Arctic will always check your logs and guide you in the correct way (even if he’s blunt and rude)

[sudden flame]

[sullen dove]

That’s helpful I’ll be sure to ask if I need help

I thought I heard eclipse refreshes star lord

Can someone confirm or deny

[fossil hemlock]

Entering eclipse clears your starlord stacks, so you have to rebuild them at the start of each eclipse

Which you want to do anyway for the 3 buffed apex spenders during balance of all things

[sullen dove]

So always be around 80+ astral power before eclipse

Or incarn

[vale pebble]

its a bit more conditional than that but yea

[tardy hare]

Not with convoke burst

[vale pebble]

be able to rebuild starlord good rule to follow

[sullen dove]

I hear they are pretty close improved incarn or convoke, I wanna simplify it for myself and just play incarn?

Honestly I can’t tell what makes convoke good Seems weird in balance compared how OP it is in resto

[ruby badger]

Burstier

[sullen dove]

It’s aoe or single target ?

[ruby badger]

Usually ST

But both perform pretty similarly, idk how convoke is atm at M+ target counts

but in raid you can get very comparable numbers between the two on any fight typically

[sullen dove]

You’d wanna wrath first though then convoke

[tardy hare]

Convoke isnt played in m+

[sullen dove]

That’s good

[sullen dove]

Even cooler

Convoke I ain’t about

[ruby badger]

Uh just follow the opener on wowhead for what to do with convoke

[tardy hare]

Maybe in early season if you have problems with bosses

[vale pebble]

u can for sure just play convoke

u can for sure also just play communion instead of fury of elune

that also makes it easier

(in raid)

(in keeper)

[sullen dove]

Communion st or aoe fights doesn’t matter? I’m googling what it does now

[vale pebble]

doesnt rly matter u wont get much value out of fury of elune and its kind of indirectly competing with only that talent

u can for sure just click a bunch of talents and be fine with any of them they are actually pretty close and nobody really knows what is best unironically

spec is unironically too hard so just pick what seems to be easy to play

(the talents that are actually never picked actually suck balls tho theres like 2-3-4)

[sullen dove]

Okay

Noted

Ty

[ruby badger]

just play around with talent tree and sims if there's something u rlly dont like and see if its chill to take out

[sullen dove]

Yeah I’m gonna spam the dummy

What city in horde can I go for a dummy that’s alone

Silver moon ain’t it

[vital hound]

belameth

[sullen dove]

That’s the moon guard portal place?

I’m horde

Google says it’s night elve city

[vital hound]

no

its neutral

[sullen dove]

Ok I found a utube vid about it

Thanks

[slender island]

btw there are also dummies inside the timeways portal for m+

not as good as the dornogal tower ones, but better than that garbage they put in silvermoon for sure

[sullen dove]

They solo?

[slender island]

yep, the one on the left as you as you enter is solo, go and take a look

if you stick close to the left side, your starfall won't hit the grouped up dummies on the right 🙂

[ruby badger]

Dornogal has a solo dummy on a tower too

I set my hearth there and just use the arcantina key to go silvermoon

[crimson idol]

For raid

[digital berry]

theres so much fucking shit in my UI that i have no idea where it's from and how to turn off

fml

[muted rapids]

Hello does anyone have the ideal open rotation order in ST ?

[lucid olive]

Welcome back

I looked up your character the other day and saw it at lvl 80 or something, figured you quit

[digital berry]

i was visiting family in poland for a month

got back to my pc yesterday and... it's been rough

[long nova]

do we get a catalyst charge tommorow?

[old moss]

no

[gentle patio]

only 4pc gamers 🙂

what time does EU m+ open? 05:00 server time?

[lucid olive]

Yes

If you want a definitive answer in-game then you can go to a boss and use a Vantus Rune, and then look at the timer on your buff

It expires on reset which is when m+ opens

[gentle patio]

calendar says 05:00 for raids

[lucid olive]

Usually you could check reset by looking at your M+ Keystone tooltip but can't do that yet so..

[gentle patio]

But that's good, cause I have a late shift and need to work at 14:30 :S

[fiery kindle]

Is the Vaelgar + Soulcatcher combo currently the bis? Or does the Gaze sim higher

[lofty depot]

Gaze doesn't sim hogher

Ribbon is better than soul catcher if u can keep stacks up presumably

[lucid olive]

Ribbon also better on longer fight

[coral shell]

Anyone know if we are rank 4 with Delves, how many Mythic crests can we get from delve per week^

[pallid bay]

this week it was 5 crests x 4

so 20 total

[sudden flame]

i love delves

[pallid bay]

lil gup

[main narwhal]

did they fuck up the ?? boss again? its casting it too quickly, solar beam just isnt up
or is there some fix to this ?

[coral shell]

Was wondering if the Delves Bonus Event this week would bring more crests

[lucid olive]

Yeah they pushed a hotfix last Thursday to make the cast scale with specs different cooldowns, but they messed up Solar Beam, so the boss casts every 35 seconds

Hopefully fixed over reset but haven't heard a word about it

[woven flint]

i was wondering tht to had to call in a guldie to tank just for interupt

[digital berry]

what party / raid frames do yall use

[quartz wedge]

i find grid 2 is nice

but im also dabbling in healing as well so being able to move around the frames helps

[dense steeple]

Imagine not just solo tanking it

Tsk tsk

[pallid bay]

imagine not 5man it

[dense steeple]

Hof was easy

(I didnt get it but it was easy)

[pallid bay]

hof was easy for the unemployed indeed

[dense steeple]

Wdym. I got off work and dropped it to 500k on my first attempt

[ruby badger]

hof closed before 5pm ST in eu

[dense steeple]

My problem was I got cocky and then spent the next 5 hours wiping at 1% or less

[lofty depot]

Have u considered getting a better spawn

[pallid bay]

well i worked from home

but since it was so easy i ignored it completely

[dense steeple]

I went back the other night and 1 shot it with +13 ilvl

Boss was actually just a complete joke

[vital swift]

hof delve boss kill is weird flex anyway
who cares if you were home at the day patch dropped?

[lofty depot]

I didn't kill it til like 9pm

Did delves, prey, m0 slam. Then that

[quiet drift]

Youre talking about WoW players here

[lucid olive]

just do full group

[sudden flame]

if you kill it as boomie though thats a flex

[lucid olive]

waited a couple days then walked in and claimed free crests and walked out

[sudden flame]

as boomie?

[lucid olive]

no

lmfao

spec guardian and do that shit in 3 pulls

[sudden flame]

🥀

[lucid olive]

first 2 were only fails cause i got bored of spamming thrash and started replying to questions in here

and boss smacked me

[jaunty cliff]

hey guys. quick question: when we are simming, do we need to select the itens we are equipped or just the ones we want to compare?

[lucid olive]

your current gear is already being ran as the baseline

but you should just do it in top gear

that way you can see your current items are selected

[jaunty cliff]

just to check if i got it right. the first 3 items are mines and the otehrs i want to compare. i can leave the ones equipped unselected and select the non-equipped and yet topgear will sim my current gera as baseline. is that correct?

[lucid olive]

yes

but it will not include your current items into other iterations

it will only show 1 iteration using all your currently equipped items together

if you're wearing like the shoulder at the top in that picture and you deselect it, it won't use that shoulder in any other result

[warped bolt]

Do we starfall 2 target m+ Elune?

[sullen dove]

when I pop eclipse and I wanna dump starsurges, should I first starfire for arcane dmg buff

[sullen dove]

yeah I saw it on a guide

[lucid olive]

no 3

[midnight bough]

What are the easiest dungeons for s1 m+?

[jaunty cliff]

hmmm got it. tyvm man!

[fossil hemlock]

So no starfall on dragon boss except when small adds are about to spawn?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[fossil hemlock]

[lucid olive]

same with Alleria p2

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah figured

[lucid olive]

on heroic at least idk if they yoink out like 5 simulacrums on mythic

but in return you can vibe press your button to swap target

and keep up sunfire/moonfire and stellar amp on both targets

really sick

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah ngl I've been spending all of pre-patch and pre-season not playing moonkin, had my first raid as it last night

Lots of muscle memory to rework

[royal zenith]

just play starweaver for ethical starfalls on dragon boss

shrimple

:3

[fossil hemlock]

Oh of course

[lucid olive]

think I did acceptable dmg in p3 on Alleria tbh for a ST boss

considering i play starweaver with kindling

expected to be way more down in that phase than 5th

[royal zenith]

those voidorbs will get blasted out of logs anyway

[lucid olive]

yeah vaelgor boss is a pad fest so give it a few weeks and they wont count anymore

[royal zenith]

no point in tracking them

it's basically forgeweaver

but the motes/voidorbs are even less relevant

[lucid olive]

but I will play orbital strike meteor storm at least once

[royal zenith]

when you look at top logs for devoker

and they breath the voidorbs

and still top boss-damage

gg's

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah I had to go to boss damage because top moonkins on overall are playing meteor storm and just destroying the adds in seconds

[round field]

hmm

padders doing the most dmg on logs

who would have guessed

[lucid olive]

I was watching Lucky's pov of our 2nd Alleria kill last night and holy shit I'm glad I don't play evoker

[royal zenith]

it's dogshit

[lucid olive]

Scalecommander in p2 looks like absolute horrid gameplay

[royal zenith]

Im happy not playing evoker anymore

you also just perma die now

[round field]

thats just the spec design philosophy this expansion

[royal zenith]

without renewing blaze

I disagree

[round field]

then ur wrong

[royal zenith]

people are overreacting to class design by a shitton

as usual

[round field]

you say that

but u call evoker dogshit

[royal zenith]

yeah the playstyle

[round field]

exactly

[royal zenith]

who cares about how many buttons you need to play

bloat is useless

[round field]

i never said anything about buttons

[royal zenith]

but I did

[round field]

im saying the classes are dogshit to play

[royal zenith]

problem?

[round field]

regardless of button count

[sudden flame]

and p1 crown

that shit is a pad slop fest

[royal zenith]

devoker =/= classes

got it

generalizing for the sake of narrative

gg's

[round field]

wrong

[royal zenith]

you are wrong, indeed

[round field]

nope

go peep arcane

its horrible

[royal zenith]

cherry picking specs now

gg's

[round field]

of course

they turned a fun spec into

whatever this is

[royal zenith]

"If a person disagrees with you and the first thing they do is to insult, it shows that their IQ and EQ are low."

also

[round field]

i didnt insult you tho

so ur wrong

[royal zenith]

Im preemptively

sitting you down

[quiet citrus]

What are people using as a astral power bar without weak auras?

I cant find anything

[royal zenith]

OiUI

[round field]

just like ur mom sat down in my lap

[royal zenith]

I think some use twintops?

[ruby badger]

AyjieCDM has worked well for me

[quiet citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-login-play-ironfist-gif-240592917241604487

[ruby badger]

Twintops as well is a good alternative if you have everything else you like and just need an AP bar

[lucid olive]

which is really bad since its an overall raid dmg loss for the smallies to die away from the big adds

[sullen dove]

before I dump my astral power should I shift into Lunar eclipe for more dmg dumping on starsurges or do solar eclipse?

[quiet citrus]

oh twintops works for moonkin? gas

[lucid olive]

if moonkin is in middle with aggro on smallies thats effectively inting the rest of your team

and yourself

[royal zenith]

I think you're griefing hard if you just perma starfall in P1

[lucid olive]

yeah for sure

[royal zenith]

but eh w.e.

[ruby badger]

Just base your decision to eclipse off what builder (Wrath/Starfire) you're going to use for the next ~10secs

[round field]

for spenders it doesnt matter

surge/fall do the same dmg regardless of which eclipse youre in

[sullen dove]

its not for starsurge dmg?

oh

okay

[round field]

no...

[polar goblet]

You just want to be in an eclipse, doesn't matter which for the spenders

[sullen dove]

then y does my quick sim do any starfires on a single target while playing keeper of grove.

wrath is better single target

i thought

[polar goblet]

There's a talent that will give free starfires for a condition, a free cast will be a dps increase even outside of it's correct eclipse

[lucid olive]

it spends Ascendant Fires buff inside CA/Incarn where both Eclipse buffs are active

[quiet citrus]

u st starfire on elunes for Fury cdr right?

[lucid olive]

inside Eclipse yes

[lucid olive]

a bit misleading, it only does it inside CA/Incarn which is technically still the correct Eclipse since you have both

[grim anvil]

Hello beautiful boomkin friends
How much more is the treant hero tree simming vs the other one?

On st

[lucid olive]

open top gear and sim it

[grim anvil]

Im away from my computer rn

[lucid olive]

ST dmg isn't hugely relevant this raid tier anyway

thats okay, you can sim on phone

[ruby badger]

It could be

[lucid olive]

the answer likely changes with the state of your character

do you have 0 tier? how much haste compared to crit? do you have 4pc? etcetc

[ruby badger]

I think the sticking point of alleria is probably ST + march looks pretty ST heavy and those 3 will be the majority of progression I imagine

[lucid olive]

you don't think the majority of progression is gonna be the endboss

now thats crazy

[ruby badger]

Isn't alleria meant to be the penultimate boss?

[grim anvil]

I just wanted to know if its a huge st difference or not since im used to the other one
So i wanted to know if i should look into treants
Guess i will look into it later

[lucid olive]

technically thats beloren

[grim anvil]

Thanks!!

[lucid olive]

in terms of difficulty curve it could be alleria we don't really know

[ruby badger]

[lucid olive]

beloren wasn't super complicated in testing but it doesn't need to be complicated to be hard

[sullen dove]

58,545 DPS sim but im only getting 42k on dummy

dunno wat im doin wrong

[fossil hemlock]

Missing buffs

Unless you turned them all off on sim

[sullen dove]

that much of a difference

they on in sum

[lucid olive]

Don't compare yourself to your sim number

that's not how sims should be used

only reason you would do that is to look for errors in the sim

if you want to improve then keep hitting dummies or queue for lower difficulty content

join some random normal or heroic pug and just play super greedy with your movement, after a while decisions like "X mechanic is happening in 5 seconds, if I get that mechanic I need to be at Y location, how can I best prepare now in case that happens?" become a lot easier

and handling decisions like that is what separates great player from good player

[round field]

fake news

if you do less dps than sim ur bad

simple as that

[lofty depot]

The sim doesn't matter when EC is gonna be harder to play for the vast majority of players

[royal zenith]

can't you just open up raidbots.com and sim for yourself

if you want to know

[lucid olive]

yo did you fix it

[shy knot]

Is it? And why?Honest question.

[royal zenith]

cause casting 3 starfires takes about 30 minutes

[round field]

bad wording

[lucid olive]

yes EC is marginably harder to pull off in raid

[royal zenith]

and you'll have about 300 mechanics during it

[round field]

its not harder per se

its just gets completely fucked by having to do any mechanics

[lucid olive]

Easier to understand, harder to play super well

Lower skill floor and much higher skill ceiling

[royal zenith]

less movement

all the shebang

[shy knot]

Ye makes sense

[lucid olive]

And EC is not ahead enough for players to value the slight lead over Keeper

[grim mirage]

Just to make it clear for my little brain
For Vorasius, Salhadar, Vaelgor, Alleria p3 you dot the orbs and/or adds when they appear then starfall instead of starsurge while they are alive
For Vaelgor when there are no adds you keep ST rotation with starsurge and try to keep dot rolling on both ?
For Trio you play ST and starsurge try to keep dot on the 3 or you go starfall ?

[lucid olive]

idk if the lead is that much anymore either, the APL changed a bit

[undone plinth]

EC is only good atm for paladins fight tbh

[royal zenith]

you also just have realize that class discords / guides need to advise what's best for the general player anyway

[lucid olive]

are there adds in alleria p3

and yeah you got it right

[royal zenith]

if you want to play EC, up to you ofc

[lucid olive]

i assume you meant P2 anyway

[grim mirage]

y sry for mistake 🙂

[lucid olive]

dont waste too much time dotting mobs that are gonna get blown up by melee meat cleaver tho

I just Sunfire them when they get gripped in

[royal zenith]

prioritize moonfire

[grim mirage]

Like sunfire + 1 or 2 starfall depending on AP and they mostly are dead right ?

[lucid olive]

nah just let treants moonfire for you

[royal zenith]

or that

[lucid olive]

Sunfire when the mobs are stacked on the boss

and just vibe press tab to swap targets between boss and simulacrum

[royal zenith]

is it even worth starfalling

wait I asked this question somewhere yday

[lucid olive]

when the adds are up probably yeah

[undone plinth]

I don’t even dot the adds cause of the paddles that fuck up the raid , just Starfall when grouped up

[lucid olive]

get some Kindling value as well

I vibe press Starfall in that phase as well tbh but I know Starsurge is more dmg

[royal zenith]

can also beam adds to help group

[lucid olive]

yeah

[royal zenith]

personally I saved cooldowns for when rift + shield is up

cause that shit hurts

[lucid olive]

or Typhoon adds that weren't broken by arrow to bring it with you

had to do that a few times yday

[shy knot]

In this add situations do we go moon eclipse or stay in sun and just get starfall out?

[grim mirage]

Ok feels like eitherway won't be a massiv impact on overall performance

[lucid olive]

basically perma solar in raid

[royal zenith]

hardly have time to get a valuable cast of starfire off

maybe with proc

value = numbers thing tho

[shy knot]

Ye ok tried mooning for the first time in hc yesterday and what can I say...log was really Bad haha

[royal zenith]

🌝

[slender island]

honest question -- how is starsurge more dmg in 2t than starfall? (e.g. dragons fight)

[lucid olive]

big enjoyer of typhoon

[slender island]

(especially with kindling)

[royal zenith]

wdym how

[lucid olive]

idk what answer you expect to this

[royal zenith]

starfall does damage, it hits 2t

it's less dam?

[quiet drift]

Dragons are spread

So youre dotting 2 targets

[lucid olive]

time to grab the old One-Armed Bandit sims..

[slender island]

only if starfall damage is < 0.5 x starsurge damage, no? there's the AP cost but ultimately you're saying the math comes out with SS on top?

[ruby badger]

typhoon has more value now right? a lot of knocks got removed?

[lofty depot]

Yes

With the asp diffy and damage

[lofty depot]

I be using it yes

[slender island]

i see, that's a pity xD but thx for clarifying

[ruby badger]

I be using it too

[lofty depot]

But idk what u mean by more value, it has the same value as before

[ruby badger]

Well the fact there's less people able to knock on the fly makes it more valuable

maybe value isnt the word

but ygm

[royal zenith]

motes will probably be more important to kill on 2 dragon boss tho

with mythic

(cause they are alive for longer)

[lofty depot]

That just means more meteor storm pad surely

[lucid olive]

yeah so this was a fucking lie

[cursive mirage]

HUH

It literally didn’t for me

[lofty depot]

Skill issue

[cursive mirage]

Did 5 tests

[lucid olive]

ah now im stuck in combat with the dummies

have to run to murder row

[cursive mirage]

Get owned

[lucid olive]

yeah idk I got 3s from a Weaver proc at least

I did enter Eclipse first tho

[cursive mirage]

Oh tbf I was only testing touch procs

Psure I was in eclipse but now idk

My bis build didn’t take weaver remember

[lucid olive]

did you look at the buff bar top right

or your solstice in CDM

[cursive mirage]

Yeah

Both

[lucid olive]

cause the CDM icon disables when the talent isn't taken

[cursive mirage]

Initially CDM but then assumed that would be the case and looked for it on buff bar saw nothing

[lofty depot]

Folty is this in or not

[lucid olive]

now to see if that still gets cancelled by eclipse

looks like it did

hard to see in that cluster of buffs

[scarlet tapir]

@wicked shuttle good video but didnt need an ad every 5 min

2 ads actually

[lucid olive]

which video

[scarlet tapir]

rwf

[lucid olive]

thank you for the ad revenue twist

i appreciate it

[wicked shuttle]

I’m surprised you aren’t using an adblocker

[scarlet tapir]

i do and i wanted to give u ad revenue

but every 5 min

[wicked shuttle]

Ah LOL

I’m also shocked it throws it that frequently

[lucid olive]

thanks youtube

[woven flint]

i dont get adds in my country 🙏

[normal pilot]

Tettles feigning ignorance

[wicked shuttle]

So how you setup ads on YouTube is you set them up in times they “can run.” Like for me I slammed it every 5 minutes, the meta for shorter videos is to allow it to put it on the 1 minute marker. then YouTube throws it based on when the last ad you watched was and for how long it was for.

[lucid olive]

ad every 5 minutes on a 3 hour video should be criminal

[wicked shuttle]

Oh there’s no ignorance. That shit is intentional

[lucid olive]

like somebody should get locked up for that

[wicked shuttle]

I’m surprised it’s actually giving you the ad every 5 minutes was what I was saying

Videos would also be unwatchable if they played the ad every minute on an 8m video. You just set it up for possibilities on when an ad could play

Then YouTube does the rest

80% of my audience uses an adblocker too (or is from a country that doesn’t get yt ads)

[lucid olive]

if I moved to one of those countries I could save money on yt premium

[woven flint]

btw why do we cycle a eclipse first on opener before sending cd's

[scarlet tapir]

probably overexageration cause im not counting but probably like every 10 mins

ill count it from now on

im on the first 22:34 min

[wicked shuttle]

32s CD, Incarn lasts 20 seconds, and ascendant eclipses give some good up front DPS

So like you’re not really losing a use while getting a bit of benefit

[wicked shuttle]

I certainly put it on the 5m mark. I put the bench podcast on the 5m mark, and I’ve never heard of somebody getting all the ads.

If it actually played every ad at the hard assigned time I’d have to change how I put ads in my videos for sure

Instead of the “we may play the ad based on the algorithm” stuff that yt does

I think I’m supposed to have it try to run every minute, but I’m lazy gg

[round field]

ive seen yt videos where like 90% of the bar was just yellow

add into add

completely unwatchable lmao

[wicked shuttle]

I think that hasn’t been a thing since like…. 2018? I think they changed it

Like if I put ads too close YouTube auto turns them off

They’re like red in my dashboard

[round field]

definitely sometime recent

like 2025 recent

[wicked shuttle]

Oh interesting

[round field]

mostly embeded videos tho

on like disc

[cursive mirage]

die

[round field]

you cant say that

[cursive mirage]

well shit. TIme to start cooking

[lofty depot]

See that silly guy can't see shit

[cursive mirage]

@lofty depot the lady dores are piping

so

suck it

[lofty depot]

Nebraska v Iowa gonna be a movie

Both won at home

[cursive mirage]

vandy v notre dame is the real match up

[pseudo merlin]

[pseudo merlin]

Yes, they need sunglasses or it's over

[pseudo merlin]

Dorn's a vibe wdym

[pseudo merlin]

Wait.... There's countries that don't have yt ads?

That sounds based as fuck, unless you're a content creator I guess

[normal pilot]

aren't many of those country places where even if you did run ads you'd get far far lower rates than western nations anyways

[lofty depot]

Is that cuz 12 people have Internet in those places or

[woven flint]

yea suriname ( country where i reside , above brazil inbetween the guyana's) cant get adds from yt or twitch but twitch introduced a new policy were general adds are now playing if your country cant get adds

[pallid bay]

lil gup out here shitting on other countries while his own is ruining the world

[lofty depot]

Idk what internet has to do with global politics smh

[pallid bay]

not much i just wanted to shit on america

[lofty depot]

Fair

[void jacinth]

[plucky valley]

Ngl I’ve never been able to find the training dummies in Bel’ameth and I was afraid to ask about it in this server because I was afraid it was a running joke to send people into insanity trying to find them

[spice roost]

do u think once boomkin gets 4sets on alot more people the wcl statistics will change a bit for us

[plucky valley]

With that being said can I get a map pin?

[spice roost]

just wondering

[exotic perch]

well of course the number will go up

so will everyone elses tho

[spice roost]

i mean compared to other specs on there

alot of specs 4sets are nothing tho

[exotic perch]

we have a strong tier set so more then others

just dont compare yourself to warlocks

[lucid olive]

honestly

not really

[exotic perch]

focus all your anger towards the locks

they keep getting away with it

[pseudo merlin]

Oh cool. Yeah I know where Suriname is, I'm Dutch :p

[plucky valley]

Thank you!!!

[lofty depot]

I think u'll see a 10% diffy in ur number

[pseudo merlin]

Your people saved my countries cuisine

[lucid olive]

I think the difference between the top 99th percentile and the 50th percentile is gonna be bigger than usual

[lofty depot]

Go through the portal and go out and to the right

[lucid olive]

Just from builds playing Starweaver and highrolling mixed with the Eclipse and cooldown changes

[pseudo merlin]

based

[lucid olive]

Average players are gonna have a worse time adapting to the changes while the good players will get by just from instinct

[kindred token]

Is this how your UI looks like currenty?

[plucky valley]

salute emoji

🫡

[lofty depot]

U think he made a separate UI to make a video?

[normal pilot]

WHAT DO THESE BARS MEAN?!?!

[lucid olive]

skyriding

[kindred token]

No. I'm just making sure if this is his new UI or if there's any difference to the one he posted it, why is that?

[lucid olive]

its red because i'm standing still

middle bar is whirling surge cd

bottom bar is second wind charges

[normal pilot]

skyriding ui more fancy than class ui

[lucid olive]

yeah not tainted by secret values

[pallid bay]

iirc they had to ask for some stuff to be unsecreted

xd

me when i outsource all my work to addon devs

[normal pilot]

hahah was gcd actually secret

[lofty depot]

How about they let us blacklist debuffs

[lucid olive]

Just wait until the shitshow the RWF is gonna stir

[pallid bay]

they didnt actually do any thinking, just secret everything and let the community figure out whats needed

[lucid olive]

when they start demoting and promoting guild members based on raid assignments..

[pallid bay]

CDM is cheating anyway, dosnt use the secret system

[woven flint]

Me 2

What city

[pseudo merlin]

Amsterdam

[pallid bay]

they asked blizzard if they could use their funny workarounds

[maiden pasture]

Secret GCD 😭

Just pull the plug give us it all back

[woven flint]

Iam from rotterdam

[pseudo merlin]

Yuck

[pallid bay]

then blizzard asked how their workarounds worked once the guilds showed them heroic week

[pseudo merlin]

🪳

(I'm joking)

The only rotterdammer I hate is @royal zenith

[maiden pasture]

Whoever found out you can track CDs using some cancel aura evoker buff shit is insane

[lucid olive]

yeah that was tech on beta too

kicking people from group when they got a mechanic and insta inviting them back also one

changing guild message of the day as well

[exotic perch]

thats a level of degeneracy that i didnt expect

[lucid olive]

thats why guild chat is secret in combat

[exotic perch]

cancel auraing buffs lmao

[maiden pasture]

These guys should be hired by some cyber security companies or something if they're this good at breaking shit

[lofty depot]

Maybe they are

[exotic perch]

toss the top 5 guilds on a tournament realm already

let us enjoy normal tuning please

[hexed wave]

yo, anyone know if nulaeus is possible as boomie or is it a guardian angle?

[lofty depot]

Bear or eeler

[maiden pasture]

Is this blizzi interrupt tracker a real thing btw

Or is it some bannable workaround shit

[woven flint]

🤣 havent heared that in a while hahaha

[exotic perch]

dont forget the cats man they exist

[pallid bay]

@maiden pasture xd

[dire osprey]

the kinda shit u get when u do half work

shoulda removed either all wa's and addons

or none of it

[pallid bay]

minimap_ping was funny tbh

[dire osprey]

ngl

[pallid bay]

you could ping minimap at any coords

[dire osprey]

lmfao

[pallid bay]

(10000,10000) would be innervate

and so on

[worldly flame]

what spec we charging into m+ with

[maiden pasture]

That's fire

Is there any actual innervate / pi workarounds that still work

[fiery kindle]

quick question, in vaelgor, should we use surge or starfall?

[pallid bay]

not for requesting

[lofty depot]

I've always just used the whisper sound as an indicator

[pallid bay]

well you can always do things

[fiery kindle]

2 target , i dont think so press fall

[pallid bay]

but there's no legal way

[maiden pasture]

Ping seems to be a nice way to do it rn

[lofty depot]

Surge 2t

Can swap target with stellar amp

[pallid bay]

yeah maybe

[fiery kindle]

kkk ty

[pallid bay]

but thats like preassigned then

could look at chat ig

[worldly flame]

surge t2 what does this mean

[dire osprey]

gotta make the healers work for their innervate now

[lofty depot]

Well I said 2t.... But nonetheless 2 targets

[maiden pasture]

Yeah as long as you get a notification that it's been requested, a quick glance at chat is chill

[lofty depot]

Tell them to bark

[dire osprey]

if i dont hear an uwu u dont get an innervate

[glacial steeple]

I prefer having them whisper sweet nothings to me

[lofty depot]

They get banned from innervate if uwu voice

[fiery kindle]

Playing Starweaver—I'm supposed to send it once it procs

[pallid bay]

guess you could make a WA

to display it on your screen

[lofty depot]

Depends kinda, but yes

[maiden pasture]

Display what who pinged? Is that not secret?

[pallid bay]

you can display a secret

your code dosnt know what the secret is

[maiden pasture]

Also now that bigwigs has this in-house timers shit that can be read by other add-ons, can someone work on some new raid weakauras xdd

[maiden pasture]

AHH makes sense

[fiery kindle]

'depends' mean

[hasty phoenix]

Guys, a simple question for someone who has never played as a dotter. In M+, when we go from one pull to another, is it better to first start dotting all the adds, or to do the opener rotation to get cooldowns rolling, like Eclipse for example?

[lofty depot]

What ur doing, if ur outside of eclipse and ur pooling procs/asp til next eclipse

[maiden pasture]

So it's just "output x" and you know that X will be what you want but the code just sees it as some value that it can't read, only display it

[lofty depot]

U only lose a weaver proc if ur casting asp buttons

[woven flint]

bro i had raid warnings pop up on my screen on cosmos to bait stop casting for the aoe silence etc and i thought that was high tech

[lofty depot]

Dot while gathering

[fiery kindle]

got it

[maiden pasture]

The new bigwigs alerts are goated tbh

[lofty depot]

If ur over capped on eclipse maybe ok to press, but that will also depend on timings and what's happening after

[woven flint]

its nsrt

[obtuse robin]

u surge on 2 targets? we sure about that? xd

[lofty depot]

Yes

[maiden pasture]

Those are banger too

[woven flint]

its really cool

[lofty depot]

Funny nsrt WA's used to be enabled on start

But the addon has it all unchecked

[woven flint]

i do like the bigwigs icon when you get a ability

[lofty depot]

Didn't notice til a few days ago

[woven flint]

but sadly no warinign on bigwigs with a written message

[maiden pasture]

Yeah it's odd

Before you had them all by default with nsrt but had to manually enable liquid ones

[obtuse robin]

im gonna request some explaining if u dont mind then, and im sure most of the ladder would need some as well lol

[maiden pasture]

Now you have to manually enable ns ones

[lofty depot]

Ye

[maiden pasture]

Explanation: it does more damage

[pseudo merlin]

elaborate please

[maiden pasture]

Starsurge received buffs and starfall received nerfs

[lofty depot]

Surge gooder

[lucid olive]

Whenever someone goes "why did blizzard make insert arbitrary mechanic nobody has ever thought about secret??" then this shit is the reason

[pseudo merlin]

buff starfall?

thoughts

[lofty depot]

Preferably yes

[maiden pasture]

No

Minigamers out

[pseudo merlin]

hello?

The whole raid is a minigame atm

[glacial steeple]

Starfall should always get buffed

Make it better for ST

[lofty depot]

There's just a bunch of 2 target cleave opportunities and Starfall is piss

[pallid bay]

Only thing is if type of ping isn't secret ig

[lofty depot]

So now I gotta focus macro this dogshit so I can stellar amp both...... And can't track only 3 debuffs

[pallid bay]

And if you can see that ping is on you

[vagrant sequoia]

starfall goes staight into the sink 👎

[lofty depot]

So I have fuggn 5 debuffs track

[pallid bay]

But doubt

[obtuse robin]

ok so are those numbers relevant now or only with 4p? cuz basically every single log rn on drakes are starfall spammers

[lofty depot]

Have u considered all those people don't know surge is better on 2t

[pseudo merlin]

you realise there's like 500 blobs that spawn and also people are stupid

[lofty depot]

There's also times u should be surging on paladins

[obtuse robin]

I have, but my question still stands

[lofty depot]

Do u think people r doing that

[pseudo merlin]

no

[lofty depot]

No, it doesn't matter that u have tier or not

[pseudo merlin]

did I get it right?

[lofty depot]

Surge got big buffed, Starfall got tiny buff

Surge better

[obtuse robin]

ok ty

[clever vigil]

gm

[lofty depot]

Hello gear fed boomkin

How is it going

[glacial steeple]

What is gear?

[lofty depot]

Ask adept

[lucid olive]

can you not macro based on boss frames

[glacial steeple]

I'm trying to

[lucid olive]

seem to remember melee using some taunt [@boss2] or whatever on One-Armed Bandit

[lofty depot]

U can

I think

[lucid olive]

idk if boss1/boss2 is the same every pull though

like which one they are

[lofty depot]

The focus macro part wasn't really the problem

[obtuse robin]

so if u wanna macro ur surge to to the other boss u aint targetting, it would look like this: /cast [@boss2] starsurge right? or is there smth else im missing

[lucid olive]

maybe

i'm not a macro guy so someone else can probably correct me, but it looks fine to me

maybe add some exists and hostile or whatever those tags are

[obtuse robin]

ye ill play around with it

[lucid olive]

also no it won't be the boss you're not targetting

it will be any of them

[obtuse robin]

ye, I meant if u target boss 1 it'll shoot at boss 2

[lucid olive]

i think boss1 and boss2 is determined either when you pull the boss or it's static

something like that idk

[obtuse robin]

ill find out on reset

[molten yoke]

What talent build are people using for heroic raid without 4 piece?

[normal pilot]

it's prolly the order on the boss frame list

[lucid olive]

yeah thats the logical assumption

i just remember some dogshit on One-Armed Bandit when melee would play with taunt macrod to the adds with boss1 boss2

and it was RNG which one they got sometimes

but those adds also spawned sporadically, while the dragon boss is perma 2 target

[normal pilot]

oh i guess it could be off guid then

[clever vigil]

i'm not even that geared

[lofty depot]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK BUD

[exotic perch]

if only instead of surge doing more dam it split

maybe then the visual would match the fact that its better on 2T

[lofty depot]

then u would complain when it didnt split

when ur tank tanks the dragons not close

[exotic perch]

just gimme the frost mage split

that thing is like 40 yards

[sullen dove]

guys do u starfall on 2 targets

I'm doing dragon boss

dunno if i should starfall or starsurge

[exotic perch]

you surge on 2

[sullen dove]

ok

[lucid olive]

ilvl check?

[wild dune]

@drifting nova arms is back?!

[clever vigil]

261.31

[lucid olive]

gg

259.75

you have this though?

[clever vigil]

i have one of them

no ribbon

[jaunty blaze]

imagine having trinkets drop

[lucid olive]

i am done on trinkets until farm

feels good

[normal pilot]

what if.. they buff gaze

[clever vigil]

the heroic alleria without my druid dropped the boots 2 pairs of pants and a ribbon

[exotic perch]

do you just not have good locks or mages

or evokers

[clever vigil]

and then 0 on my druid

[lucid olive]

it was between me and shadow priest

[exotic perch]

thats dire

[lucid olive]

honestly should have given to him in retrospect

[exotic perch]

im like last on prio for good gear lol

this spec would need to be turbo buffed

[maiden pasture]

How does coach whistle SIM against ribbon?

[lucid olive]

that thing is getting fixed i wouldn't put too much stock into it

[maiden pasture]

Is it

[lucid olive]

yes

[normal pilot]

well they're looking into it

[sudden pawn]

ribbon sims lower than my renown trinket it sucks lol

[maiden pasture]

Smbg trinket just had the tooltip changed

[normal pilot]

whether the item dev understands why it's good is another matter

[maiden pasture]

But it will probs get nerfed

With how good it is for healers anyway

[normal pilot]

probably just blanket nerf ya that's quick and they don't need to understand why

[maiden pasture]

Blanket nerf, update tooltip to include damaging spells

Move on

[normal pilot]

oh no they won't update tooltip

that's work

[maiden pasture]

They did before tho that's what I'm saying

[vagrant sequoia]

I've always wondered why the devs don't bother asking the class theorycrafters why a particular item is so highly valued. Most of the time it's just a case that all the other options are ass, but it would at least make the balancing changes feel less vibe-driven smh

[lucid olive]

yeah it got tooltip changed + made it drop for dps specs iirc

[normal pilot]

because balance doesn't matter in this game

players don't care

[vagrant sequoia]

I do mind, it diminishes the ROI on the effort put into obtaining a particular item.

[maiden pasture]

Yeah

[normal pilot]

ya but you continue to play the game

[maiden pasture]

Which would be good for the devourers who want it 😭

[normal pilot]

decades of experience has shown to blizz that players won't quit cuz of balance or bugs

but they will quit if they lack content

so they focus on what's important, pushing out content

[jaunty blaze]

keep the hamster wheel turning

[maiden pasture]

If balance bad there's a workaround to still enjoy the game. If there's no content there is no workaround

[vagrant sequoia]

But the game would be so much better if they did both

[normal pilot]

sure but you talk about ROI, their ROI on balancing isn't high

better to focus on things that matter more

[vagrant sequoia]

I just wanna raid log and crank my hog, is that too much to ask for smh

[maiden pasture]

ROI on store mounts now that's an insane ROI

[maiden pasture]

Game being better is not inherently the best business decision

Drama gets more eyes on the game, more people that talk about the game the more subs they can get

[normal pilot]

can blame blizz for everything but end of the day they've made a very successful game catering to things that'll keep players paying

[gleaming shale]

sorry if this has been asked before, but why do you use starfire in ST opener? guessing it has something to do with the Apex talents? does starfire do more damage than wrath in eclipse?

[maiden pasture]

You don't

Or do you mean the instant cast

[gleaming shale]

the instant cast yeah

[maiden pasture]

Maybe I'm thinking of the old pre cast

[vagrant sequoia]

Wrath does more damage ST, so you shouldn't be doing Starfire

[gleaming shale]

that starfire at the end

[vagrant sequoia]

I got a pp wack by arctic for using it to get the extra 2 asp instead >.>

[lofty depot]

gives more asp, damage per execute is same or better than wrath

u dont have to do so tho

its neutral now

[gleaming shale]

ok thank you!

[lofty depot]

u got pp wacked for using it IN SOLAR

u fuck

[vagrant sequoia]

0.0

Hopefully blizzard doesn't bring back the empty vault bug from TWW S2

I need the dopamine hit today

[vagrant sequoia]

But aren't you in solar in the opening? Or are we talking about the pre-cast?

Wait, I understand the graph now

[lofty depot]

ur precasting wraths only

and yes ur in solar

SO U CAST WRATH

[lucid olive]

hope they bring back the bug where you got duplicates

that was sick

[jaunty blaze]

[lucid olive]

opening vault and its 3 identical belts from m+

[jaunty blaze]

good thing we get our na beta testers on it first

[vagrant sequoia]

Omg, I forgot about that week

Wasn't it the duplicate week followed by the empty week?

[vagrant sequoia]

Jokes on you, I never open my vault before the end of raid week because I'm a loot goblin and I try to maximize loot gains in raid

Jokes aside, is there any reason I wouldn't take a tier piece from vault this week?

[maiden pasture]

Kujos belt x3

Gangster

[lucid olive]

not rly

if you wanna be greedy you take socket

[maiden pasture]

If you have 2+ pieces already without using catalyst you don't need to take tier

[vagrant sequoia]

I have 0 tier piece, blizzard did not bless my mains split group for me

[maiden pasture]

I got 2, quite lucky

[lucid olive]

I got 2 as well

think most of my guild has 2 but we do splits so its not relatable to other guilds

[vagrant sequoia]

We did normal splits

And doing it again this week

[lofty depot]

My split had negative cloth and leather

Me take tier from vault

[lucid olive]

I think splits are fun, but you don't want to run into the issue of overvaluing them

[vagrant sequoia]

Lowkey, my biggest worry is that my boomy doesn't make the prog roster

And then I have to wait until prog is over to hope my guild does another clear to get my CE

[lucid olive]

just play your heart out and you'll be fine

what matters most is being a team player anyway tbh

[lofty depot]

Why u not progging

[lucid olive]

even though thats hard to do when you get sat

[vagrant sequoia]

Idk that yet

It's just my biggest worry rn

[lucid olive]

thats understandable

[lofty depot]

R u playing bad?

[vagrant sequoia]

I'm first timing boomy this xpac

[lucid olive]

whats your guild

[vagrant sequoia]

Deathshow-Area52

But I have an anxious personality