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#balance
lofty depot
simple pebble
Is there a way to macro both incarn and Ca on one macro? Like with pots, berserking etc
simple pebble
That will work as incarn too?
simple pebble
Ait ty
proven rampart
trying out EC for the first time on Vanguard tonight. is the super generalized gameplay just foe off CD and follow up with incarn (if its up) or eclipse, and starfire/starfall instead of wrath/SS?
ripe slate
did they fix coach whistle for dps yet
ive been told blizz is aware of it proccing on dps so itll prob be fixed soontm fwiw
grind with caution
lofty depot
But we're being helpful
tardy mural
I'm practicing at the training dummy in silverlight and can't for the life of me get out of combat I can walk to the city center or into Eversong and it still won't drop. I can't change talents because of this. Is there a quick tip for this? (I'm sure i can probably logout but that's obnoxious)
sly wadi
just keep walking into eversong. I switch travel form (even ground only) and just keep walking. It will drop
tardy mural
just keep walking into eversong. I switch travel form (even ground only) and jus...
alright ty. wasn't sure if there was some other tech for making it happen sooner. cheers
tardy mural
^ like that 🙂
normal pilot
rejoice balance sims are fixed
tardy mural
In macro's, what's the difference between /use and /cast ?
lofty depot
U can't /cast an item
tardy mural
Ah okay. But I /cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment or /use [@cursor] Celestial Alignment all the same? (but cast makes more sense since it's a spell)
lofty depot
No clue... My macros are /cast for that tho
proven rampart
i'm looking at some vanguard opener timelines, and i'm seeing a few instances of people opening with eclipse and incarn immediately after. wouldn't the incarn overwrite eclipse or am I missing something?
eager raft
Ah okay. But I `/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment` or `/use [@cursor] Celestia...
I think either would work but I use /cast for abilities
dense steeple
i'm looking at some vanguard opener timelines, and i'm seeing a few instances of...
It does
lofty depot
i'm looking at some vanguard opener timelines, and i'm seeing a few instances of...
Yea but it's good to put eclipse on cd
Fre fast essentially
tardy mural
I think either would work but I use /cast for abilities
yeah, i just tested that - they both work. i'll do the same because it just makes more sense
proven rampart
this was what i was looking at. it's not common but i saw it maybe two or three times in the few logs i've looked at
lofty depot
Well that's bad
dense steeple
Yeah thats wrong lol
lofty depot
Don't do that
proven rampart
yeah i figured, i just pulled some top logs and figured it was some big brain tech i haven't heard about
dense steeple
Its also possible he knew he fucked up and still wanted it on cd
For peace of mind
proven rampart
that's fair
glossy lance
Is it me or the spec feels terribly in M0 ? Doing lower damage than the tanks sometimes. Skill issue ?
lofty depot
Feels fine to me
sly wadi
ads don't live long enough issue
lofty depot
Play meteor storm and slam prob
sly wadi
you'll know its a skill issue if you're still doing tank damage on bosses
glossy lance
I am doing way better as feral in dungeonsa tm and I like never played feral before
lofty depot
Surely a skill issue
ornate girder
Skill diff is insane
eager raft
Feral gaps bala
dense steeple
@lucid olive ayo why does the wowhead guide say to get the crit mastery ring from AA?
and on that topic the crit haste ring
from nexus point
actually now that i'm looking at it
its like crit in all slots
dull dust
crits do double damage
sly wadi
tig ol' critties
dull dust
yw
loud kettle
Feral gaps bala
baladudu
versed hawk
What do you do when shitter adds show up in a boss fight when player keeper
I dont really get it
And its holding me back
restive wadi
hi, is this trinket good in any situation, or do i trade it away without thinking a second time?
(never melting)
restive wadi
wdym its gone tomorrow
covert valley
Hey boomys - i am struggeling with sims atm.
I know sims are not 100% perfect for balance atm. Somewhere, i think it was in the dreamgrove guide, there was the tip to just sim ST for M+.
If i do so, raidbots is equipping tons of mastery/crit and quite low haste value. Feels kinda clunky with so low haste.
how do you sim for m+?
covert coyote
wdym its gone tomorrow
m+ opens tomorrow
restive wadi
so?
proven swallow
How should you open without natures balance? Just 1 starsurge or?
lofty depot
What do you do when shitter adds show up in a boss fight when player keeper
Press starfall maybe
normal pilot
you don't sim for m+ atm
civic junco
Anyone else following the split between Starweaver and Rattle The Stars on Vaelgor & Ezzorak? Some pretty interesting stuff. Looks like Rattle outperforms if you don't have dev evokers to nuke the lil orb guys
covert valley
you don't sim for m+ atm
but why? because its bugged? want to be prepared for m+ season start. 🙁
sly wadi
because there's no good way to do it
unborn moon
Hello guys, Im very new to balance druid so trying to learn! But my understanding of reading wowhead/icyveins is that I essentially never cast starfire?
normal pilot
the balance sim modules isn't developed for m+ simming yet
it might be in the future but not currently
civic junco
Anyone else following the split between Starweaver and Rattle The Stars on Vaelg...
He's still somehow big padding on the orbs. Idk how he's pulling that off. Their evokers must not be holding deep breath
He's also using Taivan's trumpet mid pull. This is truly the most incredible sweat I've ever seen
covert valley
the balance sim modules isn't developed for m+ simming yet
okay thanks
frosty raven
holds his incarn 30 seconds to pad on orbs
civic junco
This man does not give a fuck about killing the boss
He rides the top of the meter at all costs
pseudo merlin
@lucid olive does bamkin do any dmg on hc alleria ?
civic junco
<@147914503588282368> does bamkin do any dmg on hc alleria ?
Yeah
your raid is just stacked with the even better classes
sly wadi
holy arcane spread batman
lucid olive
<@147914503588282368> does bamkin do any dmg on hc alleria ?
ye
pseudo merlin
lucid olive
Emerald Coach's whistle, you sly dog you
I think the Singularity renown trinket is bit better for your own dmg
but coach whistle buffs other guy
civic junco
Your stat distribution is also really interesting. I'm sure you have the sims to back it up, but dumping haste for crit is an interesting cook. It's obviously working, but not something I would've thought of.
God I want out of healer jail
stone ledge
My sims got me using the rng damage trinket and drums set to mastery
exotic perch
why even look at sims this week lol
civic junco
It's fun to be a math geek. Let us have this XD
exotic perch
and the stat distribution doesnt matter
hasnt really for a long time you just equip w/e is better
civic junco
And what, pray tell, makes something better?
quick snow
He's also using Taivan's trumpet mid pull. This is truly the most incredible swe...
lol my log getting linked here is funny
civic junco
lol my log getting linked here is funny
You are a unit
And I mean that in the good way
Taivan!?!?! Bro
quick snow
y i thought its not much but since the stat squish its easy gains
civic junco
What made you choose Rattle over Starweaver?
round field
vibes
quick snow
since we killed that boss in another split before this week i knew the boss will die either way, so i can go for fun and play the biggest padder build known to man. Obviously wouldnt do that if we were progressing. I also decided to take astral communion so i can spam starfall more when orbs come
civic junco
Amazing work. especially considering how many devokers you had to beat to that pad
stone ledge
Im a simple man I see a upgrade I farm it. No upgrades or crests? Alt time
simple pebble
Probably stupid question. On chimaerus, do you send CA on pull?
civic junco
if you go down in group 1, no. Better to hold
lofty depot
^^
cedar basin
hey people. new to druid 🙂 are there big differences for the icy-veins and the wowhead guides?
dont really know what I should read
civic junco
i have a preference for the wowhead guide because im a gamz simp
cedar basin
wh or dreamgrove.gg
thank you very much
normal pilot
it's not always the case but just is atm
cedar basin
it's not always the case but just is atm
noted thanks
earnest sage
for st do we go into eclipse with full astral or no astral
abstract fjord
guys, is lunar eclipse worth it at all on crown of the cosmos if the droplets die almost instantly?
lofty depot
meh, jsut solar and starfall dog
river galleon
Is Convoke already fixed for Chimaerus?
lofty depot
Is Convoke already fixed for Chimaerus?
yes
dense steeple
is our sim bug fixed?
dense steeple
sick
lofty depot
sims work perfectly
yea we outside with it
shell light
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MTWb86tP9X1Va7gG?fight=20&type=casts&view=timeline&source=6
Does anyone wanna take a look at my log to give some insights on what I am doing wrong?
I feel like I do have the "core" fundamental ideas mostly down with only some mistakes here and there (which I assume will be less prevalent as I raid more), however I still only parse around 50, so clearly I am misunderstanding/missing something quite important?
royal zenith
some basic stuff is like
macro'ing shit together
Align cooldowns where possible
(trees/CA etc.)
lofty depot
its also wrong opener. you supposed to eclipse then spend the ascendent procs, press wrath a bunch to get asp, then go into incarn
royal zenith
if you make sure these random trees are combined with -something- you get more value
be sure to position well or pre-move so you dont have to cancel casts as much:
obviously staying alive > all
common theme is not combining coolies and cancelling casts
and what arctic mentioned
shell light
if you make sure these random trees are combined with -something- you get more v...
Yeah from lurking in here, I did realize that these trees are very silly and I dont really remember why I popped them
I'll definetly try to just save trees to mainly align with incarn
shell light
its also wrong opener. you supposed to eclipse then spend the ascendent procs, p...
, will try to save my procs if I know I'll enter an eclipse soon rather than almost instantly popping the abilities shinning brightly on my cdm
royal zenith
these are things you can also just get in your system by slapping the dummy
not a big deal, just gotta put in hours
in raid gotta focus on prepositioning mostly, so you dont have to cancel casts
drifting nova
obviously staying alive > all
unless dam is bad, then death is good
shell light
in raid gotta focus on prepositioning mostly, so you dont have to cancel casts
Will try, was hoping it would also get better as we head into week 2, becoming more familiar with the fights
royal zenith
unless you get a mechanic that can wipe group and jump off the platform...
that's allowed
royal zenith
Will try, was hoping it would also get better as we head into week 2, becoming m...
yeah, next step is combining cooldowns with important moments, like adds or dmg amps etc.
drifting nova
still dont know how I did this week
...and pug got grief locked, I'd kill to be able to see peoples locks
merry ibex
Damn Guardian catching strays
lucid olive
Damn Guardian catching strays
idk how stray it is
they did more dam than all the other tanks
drifting nova
got my first tier..its warbound and not what I wanted
dull dust
GRATZ
drifting nova
arms is saved..atleast
dull dust
WHEN THEY SAVIN MY SPEC
delicate perch
arms is saved..atleast
ripe slate
feral aint takin no1s raid spots
dull dust
real
maiden pasture
WHEN THEY SAVIN MY SPEC
Have you fully transitioned to bamkin
royal zenith
arnt we all
normal pilot
prawn?
vital hound
shrimp
tiny wagon
is nulleaus unsoloable as boomie cause of kick CD?
valeera doesnt kick as heals but thats the only way to live the fight?
normal pilot
ya press n or pray for reset fix
tiny wagon
oh sick
bronze topaz
is nulleaus unsoloable as boomie cause of kick CD?
yes, go resto and afk 15 minutes and win
proper mica
What’s stat in prior for keys? Trying to figure out if I can use feral haste mastery gear
normal pilot
sure just need an int weapon & trinkets
drifting nova
can we go back to personal loot
delicate perch
no
dull dust
b
o
o
m
drifting nova
I will not flame pugs
delicate perch
I will
dull dust
I hate pugs
delicate perch
@vital hound energy drink stock for tomorrow check
dull dust
show proof
vital hound
litre and a half of v in the fridge
drifting nova
my bad for taking 3 arrows to the face on cosmos 
vital hound
hitting woolies later though and the deli
delicate perch
litre and a half of v in the fridge
picked up a 4pack of sugarfree blue V for $10
misty glade
is nulleaus unsoloable as boomie cause of kick CD?
Yes, but I bet this will be addressed.
vital hound
<a:LETSGOO:966129852946198659> picked up a 4pack of sugarfree blue V for $10
holy hecka
250s?
delicate perch
free my boy he didn't do much
vital hound
well now you've lost me
delicate perch
fiery kindle
I just can't seem to get used to the new rotation. If I send you the logs, would you take a look?
delicate perch
oh that's an arctic job he'll be around eventually but someone smarter than me will also take a look surely
lofty depot
I just can't seem to get used to the new rotation. If I send you the logs, would...
yes
lofty depot
holy shit gamer
fiery kindle
...
dull dust
@lofty depot is boomkin saved
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> is boomkin saved
ye
fiery kindle
I thought you were joking. Are you?
lofty depot
no
fiery kindle
oh
lofty depot
trinket give mastery and it delays
dull dust
im not a expert hut i think u trees after foe
lofty depot
if u mac ro it to incarn it does less damage on bolts
lofty depot
im not a expert hut i think u trees after foe
u are correct
i also need to see something
one se
drifting nova
does it reallty matter what order the add son alleria go
lofty depot
ye
thats on add spawn, i suppose but yea just send faster i think
picked a curious time to potion
trees prior to ca
obsidian fjord
does it reallty matter what order the add son alleria go
you don't fight arator hes on our side
fiery kindle
picked a curious time to potion
yea i forgot
fiery kindle
trees prior to ca
noted
drifting nova
you don't fight arator hes on our side
idk this pug is doing morium last and never really questioned it
lofty depot
that moonfire in eclipse is odd
u have wrath free cast
likkely forgot
if ur gonna dot things riht
u should sunfire them when theyre stacked
u sent funny trinket on ca that time 🙁
fiery kindle
u sent funny trinket on ca that time 🙁
trail heath
when do we wanna send trinket?
lofty depot
when do we wanna send trinket?
its a small minmax cuz mastery gain is delayed and now CA has a damage component
so if u press in a macro it doesnt have the increased mastery
obtuse robin
huh? is that the correct opener? do we wanna send first surges prior to trees/CA on pull?
trail heath
so like right after
lofty depot
huh? is that the correct opener? do we wanna send first surges prior to trees/CA...
well yes u want to use the ascendent buffs
and then build asp to 50 then slam
obtuse robin
but how tf do u generate enough asp for first 3 slams? 2/3 wraths prepull arent nearly enough arent they?
feels like I'm missing smth
fiery kindle
but how tf do u generate enough asp for first 3 slams? 2/3 wraths prepull arent ...
I think we use Eclipse in the opener just to get it on cooldown
lofty depot
but yes ur building asp
grim crater
when is M+ coming out? Tomorrow?
lofty depot
I think we use Eclipse in the opener just to get it on cooldown
although true, u send surges
lofty depot
when is M+ coming out? Tomorrow?
yes
grim crater
Oof, noice
red cobalt
its a small minmax cuz mastery gain is delayed and now CA has a damage component
does the mastery buff comes a bit later or instant? It seems instant but idk
red cobalt
aright so its actually better to use it 1 gcd earlier or just pressing it manually
stark meteor
anyone else feel like they're just tickling packs in m0
my rotation or talents might just be off on elune's chosen
analog moat
Yup.
tall gale
Is the OBR ok to chill in low keys?
In m0 im noticing a 10-20% drop dmg when i use obr
delicate perch
stuff dies in like 2 globals so it's probably worse
but since it's m0 who really cares I went full ST and just killed bosses because cds are not up often enough
tall gale
I m really bored in m0, since my group is 2 burst specs, i couldnt even build enought AP to start doing dmg, and i know that low keys will be the same
wicked crown
Anyone else having issues simming balance druid but everything working on any other spec?
fiery kindle
@lofty depot Why did my Starsurge underperform
delicate perch
Anyone else having issues simming balance druid but everything working on any ot...
What’s the issue
fiery kindle
The cast was the same, but there’s a noticeable difference between the hits.
stone ledge
stats, buffs, consumes non ascended eclipse surge could be multiple things
analog moat
<@121360917907767296> Why did my Starsurge underperform
THis is how I feel. I compared myself to someone with a similar timed boss kill and his abilities did 2k more dps than mine on every ability.
wicked crown
What’s the issue
If I try to do a gear compare I just get an error
fiery kindle
THis is how I feel. I compared myself to someone with a similar timed boss kill...
Could it be a stat issue? My crit is too low, and my haste ended up being too high.
analog moat
Yeah, maybe.
delicate perch
If I try to do a gear compare I just get an error
Does the error explain what’s wrong
wicked crown
Does the error explain what’s wrong
Unreliable fight style! The SimC Balance module does not support Dungeon Slice. More Details. Player 'insert my character name' does not support fight style DungeonSlice, results are inaccurate and should not be used.
delicate perch
Yeah don’t use dslice
wicked crown
But it works on all the other specs I've tried
analog moat
The only sim we use is 1 boss basically
delicate perch
Other specs are stinky
analog moat
No other sim has ever worked for as long as I can remember.
delicate perch
It’s been ok for some melee specs but it’s never really been great
lofty depot
But it works on all the other specs I've tried
delicate perch
That’s a banger name tbh
lofty depot
no
dull dust
im waiting for clankz to drop the textbook apl before I do more
zealous loom
Hello everyone!
Could someone help me with these logs? I want to know how to improve
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WBJxYkFVpCQ1N3hc?fight=90&type=damage-done&source=3537
delicate perch
Hello everyone!
Could someone help me with these logs? I want to know how to im...
@lofty depot
dull dust
@lofty depot
stone ledge
starfall on 3t is boomkin propaganda by big sim so we cant actually parse on p2 alleria
teal sphinx
@delicate perch thanks for telling your dad to buff me
zealous loom
starfall on 3t is boomkin propaganda by big sim so we cant actually parse on p2 ...
are you sayins that we should use starfall beyond 3 targets?
teal sphinx
delicate perch
<@129188899741237248> thanks for telling your dad to buff me
I hope it wasn't enough 
delicate perch
starfall on 3t is boomkin propaganda by big sim so we cant actually parse on p2 ...
I'm starfalling on 1t
no one can stop me
teal sphinx
I hope it wasn't enough <:luvv:1067222237532397578>
Just means youll have your dad give me more 
lofty depot
tragic
ancient lodge
Hey guys! I was wondering if there's an add-on that easily tracks how many dots I have out and the time left on them 🙂
Sort of find it messy tracking dots on huge groups of mobs haha... Altho platynator helps!
I recall there was a WA to track feral bleeds in tww but wondering if such trackers don't exist anymore haha
obsidian fjord
Hey guys! I was wondering if there's an add-on that easily tracks how many dots ...
how is this going to display for u
if u dont track on nameplate then if this addon tells ur dot is running out u still have to find it on nameplate
ancient lodge
Shtg like an icon that tells me how many dots I have out, and like the time left of the shortest dots haha to get a big picture view in a sense haha
Maybe I'm playing wrong but I tend to have windows to apply dots at one go, then focus on casting wrath/ AP generators haha
delicate perch
most things like that are quite dead thanks to @teal sphinx
lucid olive
most things like that are quite dead thanks to <@174364071238303744>
Yeah I can't believe that @teal sphinx killed add-ons
And he was ordered by @cursive mirage to do it
lucid olive
God i dont wish getting 1600 on my worst enemy
Ilvl check
cursive mirage
And he was ordered by <@249668398508670976> to do it
true viper
Did crown on feral and i died
lucid olive
Ouch
true viper
I jumped off cuz i thought i had wild charge
drifting nova
saw a chicken do 200k burst on cosmos
nerf when
stone ledge
drifting nova
wdf
true viper
That character panel gives me a headache
stone ledge
would trade 4set for heroic dragon trinket tho ngl
lucid olive
I'm done with trinkets until farm
cursive mirage
guys my trinkets own lock in
drifting nova
worse than me, gg, quit while you're behind
lucid olive
guys my trinkets own lock in
The pixels on that cat form wtf
Is that some 2006 model or
cursive mirage
lucid olive
I should log on NA and claim a house and log off
Be your neighbor with full default house
lucid olive
cursive mirage
and then @fleet chasm took the other one and then quit the game
maybe I should just kick pepsi and let you have his plot since he wants to play TBC anyway
cursive mirage
yeah but hes playing arms warrior and cannot allow himself to be happy
lucid olive
Smh
cursive mirage
i mean tbf I am playing balance druid with this eclipse button
so
what room do I have to speak
lucid olive
Eclipse button is sick
cursive mirage
it could have been
lucid olive
This tier gonna be a strange one in general
lucid olive
Okay show me the build you have now
Wait you don't have stellar amp talented or
That talent is sick
true viper
Yo i had supergrok remake the apl and i found major improvements on 3+ targets
lucid olive
Super sim computer
lucid olive
Nice yeah that's it
cursive mirage
lock in
lucid olive
No Starlord is crazy
cursive mirage
fixed
lucid olive
Wait how does that work
Talent into that and go to a dummy see if Cosmos still gives Solstice
cursive mirage
I just operate on a different level
lucid olive
And if Eclipse still clears it
cursive mirage
i am afraid
lucid olive
Since Solstice not taken
lucid olive
No it won't just fun to know what it does
And I don't wanna get out of bed and go test it myself
cursive mirage
no soltice from hail
cursive mirage
Upside: can't feel bad about munching soltice uptime with shitty eclipse interaction if you just dont have soltice uptime whatsoever
lucid olive
Damn straight
lofty depot
starfall on 3t is boomkin propaganda by big sim so we cant actually parse on p2 ...
p2 alleria slams what
those adds live long enough on mythic, gonna blast
cursive mirage
delicate perch
alleria most fun aotc boss in a while
lucid olive
P2 Alleria just slam Starsurge unless there are adds up, and vibe press your Tab key or whatever to swap targets between boss and simulacrum and just chain target swap Starsurge to keep Stellar Amp up on both
cursive mirage
can someone explain what the f goes on in the feral channel?
actually idk if I want to know
stark wedge
clock go up
cursive mirage
cats are fucking weirdos man
analog moat
I'm waiting to see what happens after 9999.
analog moat
Maybe. Or the world ends.
lucid olive
You can never be too sure
acoustic fulcrum
what target amount does starfall beat out surge as spender
lofty depot
3
acoustic fulcrum
sick name
lofty depot
acoustic fulcrum
its always three regardless of what talent build ur running then
lucid olive
I'm not sure but I think Starfall beats Surge on 10 targets
Probably beats it before that as well
But definitely on 10...
lofty depot
its always three regardless of what talent build ur running then
yea dragons ur target swapping surge
is fun surely
acoustic fulcrum
cursive mirage
I'm not sure but I think Starfall beats Surge on 10 targets
ill have my boys run the math
lucid olive
Honestly not bad gameplay you just gotta not stress too much about it
Just rando swap target between the dragons sometimes
cursive mirage
i've already made timeline reminders every global saying "Swap"
vagrant sequoia
Sometimes I imagine the starfall is just the boomy cooming into the sky and the sheer weight of its fertility is what does the damage
lucid olive
I'm scared
lucid olive
I can't believe sinkpisser would be like that
The name sounds so innocent
It's always the ones you least expect
acoustic fulcrum
whats the talent that requires us to target swap, I cant find "stellar amp"
dull dust
what the fuck did i just read
lucid olive
whats the talent that requires us to target swap, I cant find "stellar amp"
Down left from CA
cursive mirage
and just escape back to mage land
lucid olive
Ish
cursive mirage
you aren't built for this nightmare quite yet
dull dust
acoustic fulcrum
Down left from CA
I cant read i guess
acoustic fulcrum
ive somehow never seen that
lucid olive
Yeah a lot of people don't notice it
I think it's because having a search bar there is a logical and good solution, and players are trained to not expect that from Blizzard
vagrant sequoia
In all seriousness, did you guys notice during the alleria cutscene blizz went out of their way to obscure xal'atath's feet?
lucid olive
I've heard that the feet thing is just 1 dude in the cinematic team that thinks it's really funny to keep putting her feet in shots
vagrant sequoia
Dude was cooking in TWW
The potential for a new profile picture is what motivates me to watch them
I've been stuck with this cat since TWW S2
lucid olive
It's a good bit
lofty depot
Hello everyone!
Could someone help me with these logs? I want to know how to im...
ok back to this
u should be sending trees prior
zealous loom
is that really that important? lol
lofty depot
ur also not using wildcharge
lofty depot
is that really that important? lol
u asked how to do more damage
and now ur asking why we do it?
vagrant sequoia
It's fair to ask why, I'm similar. The reason why is that you want to maximize damage output during celestial alignment so using a GCD on force of nature instead of a starsurge is a dps loss.
lofty depot
acoustic fulcrum
one more stupid idiot question: if I'm single target, and I've got a proc from starweaver for starfall, and Im in the ascendant eclipse state, do I spend all 3 before I use starfall
lofty depot
like u actually torched ur last 10 seconds of incarn
lofty depot
one more stupid idiot question: if I'm single target, and I've got a proc from s...
prefer surge, press starfall if u run out of asp
could be better to 3 sruge
acoustic fulcrum
probably doesnt really matter too too much I imagine
vagrant sequoia
prefer surge, press starfall if u run out of asp
Same here, it's nice to not have to think about do I have asp for 3rd starsurge if I know if I don't have it I can get the 3rd stalord from the free starfall
zealous loom
It's fair to ask why, I'm similar. The reason why is that you want to maximize d...
that actually makes so much sense
lofty depot
did we cancel moonkin form
lofty depot
#showtooltip Moonkin Form
/cast [nostance:4] Moonkin Form
if i see u canceling moonkin form for anything queen root dodging
we got issues
dull dust
i like to think he considered swaping to bear mid pull
lofty depot
most of ur problem jsut lays in spam casting dots
and ur casting starfire in solar
u did it a few times
i assume ur trying to aoe things
but then again idk
ur doing it a lot now
ur not prepping into the movement
dull dust
arctic log review me next
acoustic fulcrum
speaking of canceling moonkin, why the fuck cant I cast heart of the wild in mk form
lofty depot
cuz healing is a not moonkin thing
exotic perch
its for other forms
dull dust
exotic perch
so you go bear then hit it really
lofty depot
dull dust
i ripped vibe rotation
exotic perch
wild growth isnt worth
dull dust
lofty depot
i ripped vibe rotation
shouldve used meteor storm
zealous loom
speaking of canceling moonkin, why the fuck cant I cast heart of the wild in mk ...
to jump backwards to break the dragons big circle
lofty depot
big pad
dull dust
i used the same build the whole raid
lofty depot
u shouldve be sening surges first
boat on surge > boat on wrath
u also sent dots in eclipse
dull dust
lofty depot
TWEICE
acoustic fulcrum
to jump backwards to break the dragons big circle
thats wild charge buddy
zealous loom
thats wild charge buddy
lmao you're right. Most of druid's spell names sound the same to me for some reason
lofty depot
u didnt go down
lofty depot
hm
midnight bough
can you get more than 5 community tokens for the housing quest
dull dust
zealous loom
LMAOAOOOOO
Yo I can relate to this guy tbh. I made so many mistakes. Keep it up lmao
dull dust
HAHHAHAHA
dull dust
my brain needs 100000 iterations
lofty depot
smh sent a starfall ebfore surges
lofty depot
taht wasnt a proc
vagrant sequoia
dull dust
im a winner
lofty depot
u could be that frost mage slamming dick on table
instead ur casting some piss fucking starfire
for 15k
lofty depot
what the helly
lofty depot
oh i frogot thats prob intermission
dull dust
yo so im a pumper right
lofty depot
"pumper"
dull dust
i built a roof
lofty depot
Cook me next https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z46yMtfY2zmc1BWv?fight=14&type...
CAN WE NOT LINK DOGSHIT CIMAERUS
dull dust
im pretty proud
dull dust
tf is a frog
lofty depot
- ur supposed to build asp into ca after sendign that
- u then reset sunfire before that cuz ur casting wrath for a bit.
lofty depot
- the sequence then after is sunfire > foe > trees> ca > surge til empty > convoke
lofty depot
- u can also pot the solar eclipse in the opener when done correctly. because it lasts 30 seconds and catches all of the opener
then that happened
also.... just so were clear.. on a boss that is like boomkins wet dream of pad
ur using convoke
cursive mirage
god forbid a man be ethical
lofty depot
another one of those solar eclipse starfire gamer
lofty depot
god forbid a man be ethical
yea ethical
lofty depot
u shoulld be sending this with CA at 1m ish
ebon parcel
how do i monitor for dot on council fight? especially if the boss is behind me? i use platynator
cursive mirage
turn your camera
lofty depot
lofty depot
how do i monitor for dot on council fight? especially if the boss is behind me? ...
use boss frames
even though u cant filter shit :/
god im gonna have to planner peoples fucking cds to see where the charge was at
fuck
acoustic fulcrum
what would the macro be to do bear form > heart of the wild, without letting a panic spam press it without being in bear form since its ogcd
there should be a way to check if ur in bear form I forget the command
lofty depot
#showtooltip Heart of the Wild
/cast [nostance:1] Bear Form
/cast Heart of the Wild
have to od it that way
is 2 button presses, but does work
vagrant sequoia
CAN WE NOT LINK DOGSHIT CIMAERUS
It's the last fight where I finally started getting the hang of the class :/
acoustic fulcrum
it works if my global is ready, buf if im in the GCD is just uses heart of the wild on the wild growth version
gleaming magnet
Quick question, if an eclipse runs out but my 3 stacks of starlord still has like 5-10 seconds. Do i just send another eclipse or should I let the starlord buff run out first?
lofty depot
cursive mirage
depends on how much AP you have and if you're overcapping charges of eclipse/CA
lofty depot
yea so u couldve held that trees for ur next eclipse
granted u sent that eclipse like 15 seconds later.....
teal sphinx
depends on how much AP you have and if you're overcapping charges of eclipse/CA
Bro yaps in here more than I do now
cursive mirage
Bro yaps in here more than I do now
I at least try to be helpful
teal sphinx
lofty depot
vagrant sequoia
I'm bad at math, I needed asp for that third starsurge >.<
vagrant sequoia
Because it gives 10 asp instead of 8
gleaming magnet
depends on how much AP you have and if you're overcapping charges of eclipse/CA
I'm guessing if I'm gonna cap an eclipse send it so it doesn't cap otherwise hold?
pliant quiver
Sorry if this has beeen answered. But based off the opener in the Pin, it says to send 3 starsurges after the first Eclipse,if you only have enough AP for 2 do you just move on to your CDs?
lofty depot
I'm guessing if I'm gonna cap an eclipse send it so it doesn't cap otherwise hol...
until u have procs essentially
vagrant sequoia
It might've been when I had to swap to adds
lofty depot
vagrant sequoia
And I knew I had time to kill before the CDs all lined up
gleaming magnet
until u have procs essentially
Word, thank you!
lofty depot
oh i didnt even notice
u didnt send CA at 1m-120 so u had an extra charge the whole time
vagrant sequoia
ye
delicate perch
stop doing math
NA Math
vagrant sequoia
I'm new to this boomy thing, I've been a classic andy up until now >.<
dull dust
maths for loserss
dull dust
lofty depot
I'm new to this boomy thing, I've been a classic andy up until now >.<
welcome to hell
what a fun problem to have
dull dust
why does that give me a headache
vagrant sequoia
Alright, so the summary is:
- Dump asp before convoke
- Don't use convoke on chimaerus
- Send CA with Force of Nature
- 2x Eclipse between CAs
- Don't use Starfire (unless 3+ mobs?)
- Be better at building up asp before eclipse
Did I miss anything to this list?
dull dust
u forgot to thank arctic in uwu speak
lofty depot
dont od that
stone ledge
thank youwu
dull dust
sorry its tradition
vagrant sequoia
uwu tank yew mwistur arcwic
dull dust
lofty depot
regarding #3....
you press trees and foe essentially on cd...
then u CA with trees always
then u convoke with ca always
- is dont starfire in solar eclispe either
on most fights were not going lunar so ur not pressing starfire unless ur in incarn and theres 3+ mobs
vagrant sequoia
I think that's what I did here, I think mobs came out, I used eclipse, built up starlord, instant starfire on the small adds to pad and then ST the big add.
lofty depot
normally id say like people aree used to getting starfire and getting a lot of asp
but idk that u played last tier
when starfire actually generated a lot of asp
jolly delta
what a fun problem to have
btw did you know that you can now export and import layouts
vagrant sequoia
but idk that u played last tier
I got CE playing UH dk in TWW s2, but then didn't play s3 because I knew the classic mop grind would've taken too much of my time
vagrant sequoia
what a fun problem to have
What am I looking at btw? I'm not familiar with this tooling >.<
vagrant sequoia
Yeah, but what's the problem in the screenshot?
jolly delta
<@124935035412414475>
Just create a custom spell
lofty depot
Yeah, but what's the problem in the screenshot?
our spec sucks and requires outside resources to help distinguish when thigns are up and or are useable without losing a cd
jolly delta
god im gonna have to planner peoples fucking cds to see where the charge was at
Also at one point next month you'll get the ability to import sims
vagrant sequoia
our spec sucks and requires outside resources to help distinguish when thigns ar...
Yeah, I'm noticing that UH dk was way easier to learn and play than this spec
jolly delta
Yeah but then other specs don't get to play with fancy websites 
(I'm jk)
((also I'm biased))
lofty depot
Also at one point next month you'll get the ability to import sims
HOLY
lofty depot
Yeah, I'm noticing that UH dk was way easier to learn and play than this spec
its not necesarrily like "hard to learn"
but theres minmax shit that isnt intuitive
vagrant sequoia
Yeah, that's what I mean
lofty depot
because u have fuggn 5 cds with different timers and abilities with charges
vagrant sequoia
Like UH dk was basically when X happens you just spam this ability and don't do anything else
lofty depot
and then that doesnt even mention the.... oh we'll just hold cds cuz ull do giga damage
vagrant sequoia
But boomy is like, yeah, so you gotta do these 9 things in sequence before you can do your 4 button sequence for burst
lofty depot
like araz, we sent on opener and then held our 2m til 330 for amp
vagrant sequoia
I just think that the lunar/solar eclipse system overcomplicates things
lofty depot
so ways to think about it is if u can spam cast starfire u want to be in lunar
delicate perch
I just think that the lunar/solar eclipse system overcomplicates things
wait are you oce 
I swear I seen a priest with your name 
lofty depot
but theres really not enough times in a fight where thats possible
vagrant sequoia
wait are you oce <:kekW:626450502279888906> I swear I seen a priest with your na...
NA
delicate perch
you have a copycat
vagrant sequoia
I think it's just two great minds thinking alike
delicate perch
logout
lofty depot
did u learn how to play the game in the last 4 months or
digital berry
nope
lofty depot
🪦
digital berry
is there some all in 1 pack i can find
vagrant sequoia
guys, I'm out of sparkling water 🙁
lofty depot
do u actively drink sparkling water
vagrant sequoia
I must now consume tap water until I can restock tomorrow
yeah, it's how I stopped drinking sugary carbonated drinks
delicate perch
yeah someone ban this guy
lofty depot
i will not
digital berry
i also have no idea how to play balance
lofty depot
EVER
digital berry
erm
delicate perch
🌎
vagrant sequoia
I miss mexican coke 🙁
digital berry
wtf is this
delicate perch
that's a screenshot
vagrant sequoia
that's a screenshot
What an astute observation
lofty depot
and predictive asp
delicate perch
What an astute observation
can never be too sure with him
digital berry
oh so its giving me sf ss and double ss thresholds?
lofty depot
ye
digital berry
i gotta read the damn compendium i have no idea when to enter normal eclipses now
lofty depot
just wait til u see the opener
vagrant sequoia
when CA is on CD and you have asp to send 3 starsurges
digital berry
omg is it cursed
lofty depot
kinda
and then..... on saladbar people arent gonna do it porperly and then their cds wont line up for amp its gonna be fun
vagrant sequoia
I just do CA+Convoke off the rip
lofty depot
yea u lost damaeg
vagrant sequoia
lines up for amp on saladtosser
pliant quiver
Sorry if this has been answered. But based off the opener in the Pin, it says to send 3 Starsurges after the first Eclipse if you only have enough asp for 2 do you just move on to your CDs?
digital berry
ima need to give someone 5 on twitch for a full addon pack i cba
upper anvil
Are maps guaranteed from beacon of hope if new week and we didnt get one
delicate perch
ya
lofty depot
Sorry if this has been answered. But based off the opener in the Pin, it says to...
press wrath a bunch
then spend the surge... then press wrath a bunch to 50asp ish... then slam cds
obsidian fjord
What an astute observation
i concur, sinkpissr
digital berry
<:EZ:724439555574333511>
he doesnt have it set up on wago does he
pseudo merlin
I just had a group disband in M0 SOTT
Two people couldnt figure out that you had to put the circle on the balls
After 5 wipes
And me specifically explaining it 3 times
delicate perch
he doesnt have it set up on wago does he
idk he might
ebon parcel
use boss frames
my default wow boss frame doesnt show any debuff (my DOTs)
so currently i am looking at plater nameplate and tracking manually
but when boss goes behind me (council fight) hard to track
elvui had feature where i can track the dots.
So i am wondering how do other balance druids or dot classes efficiently track their dots
pseudo merlin
I gave up on trying to get it to work with random addons so I installed atrocity
ebon parcel
i am worried to instal multiple similar addons as they may overide each other. so atrocity doesnt affect exisitng name plates etc?
pseudo merlin
Atrocity UI is an elvui based addon pack that has been customised and set up to be functional out of the box by someone who has a good eye for presenting information to you in a good way
You basically just get rid of all your addons, cuz the install contains most of what you need
digital berry
idk he might
ohhhhhh i installed that rq and holy shit my UI is a mess
pseudo merlin
then you backfill with your niche addons
digital berry
its all just black blocks im gonna need to fix that shit up
copper locust
are we starting with the crafted 2 hand staff for 1st craft out the gate?
glacial steeple
are we starting with the crafted 2 hand staff for 1st craft out the gate?
ye
vital hound
idk he might
ai
vital hound
lofty depot
my default wow boss frame doesnt show any debuff (my DOTs)
so currently i am loo...
i dont use default
pseudo merlin
how many
lofty depot
just 1
lofty depot
yea we wiped a few times. people keep dying in p3 some how
pseudo merlin
huh
lofty depot
no clue
lofty depot
mayeb it was p2 and i didnt notice
pseudo merlin
I did die to picking up a feather that was on the edge tho
it takes like half a second before the buff works
lofty depot
yea i refuse and will be wildcharging
glacial steeple
mb
pseudo merlin
I think you need to type that in game sir
glacial steeple
Embarassing
pseudo merlin
21????
sour rampart
honestly like 10 of them were just straight up stupidity
i was very frustrated
lmao
pseudo merlin
leme count
pseudo merlin
oh ye the arrow thing was something else
lofty depot
21 pulls for us
think it was 25 for us
sudden pawn
pseudo merlin
ok we pulled it 38 times but that's cuz we were adamant about doing it split
then killed it in like 3 pulls after merging
I love moonkin on that fight
They take aggro off of the blobs from me
Thank you for your service
🫡
pseudo merlin
theyre kinda silly
idk why blizzard put them there
just make them spawn from outside or something
maybe they just want typhoon to be a raidbuff
lofty depot
surely
i wasnt bottom of boss dama in any phase
and the intermission allows boomkin to have cds up the whole time essentially
pseudo merlin
noice
My p3 damage was kinda low
62k dps i think
but like idk how you do dmg there unless you're melee or demo
or lizard maybe
lofty depot
no tier so wcyd
bitter bolt
are you not able to track the fury of elune laser duration in cooldown manager or am I missing it?
obsidian fjord
but like idk how you do dmg there unless you're melee or demo
u dont have to move that much
bad group movement maybe
static sluice
What is the best way to sim for the raid right now? 5 min single target does not really seem to be it on most fights right?
pseudo merlin
5min st patchwerk
pseudo merlin
u dont have to move that much
? There's like 10 grasps and 5 aspects
and two jumps
static sluice
hot take but aoe sims suck
Sure but so do 5min patchwerk fights if you ask me. Both really do not represent the actual fights
pseudo merlin
yeah but you'd be kinda wrong for the right reasons
for m+ you can sim MDT (no idea if this is still a thing in midnight) for everything else 1t5m patch
That's what we've done for the longest time and it just works, and while sometimes it might not make much sense looking at what you're simming for, the resulting gear recommendations work out just fine
echo field
anyone have sims from simulation craft?? or for trinkets on bloodmallet?
trying to find a gear list to shoot for
echo field
welp, idk looking for a list of gear that is bis/good for boomy figured wowhead wasn't it
yeah dreamgrove says sim stuff
echo field
raid lead wants us to have it
pseudo merlin
yeah dreamgrove says sim stuff
exactly
ah that classic
wowhead should have one, you can use that just fine
drifting nova
Dont use bloodmallet btw
how am I going to try do heroic tonight?
echo field
also simming for single target in this raid is poo poo, too many w/ adds etc. can't sim for dungeons either lol, not great to "just sim"
normal pilot
your RL is wasting your time so just grab somethign or make it up
drifting nova
if I dont have the info
pseudo merlin
try to find a new guild also
pseudo merlin
also simming for single target in this raid is poo poo, too many w/ adds etc. c...
scroll up a bit
normal pilot
well maybe he likes the ppl
drifting nova
is that moroccan?
echo field
scroll up a bit
wdym? i did...didn't see anything helpful
drifting nova
<:SuspiciousChicken:468815079836745728>
surely I find a hc pug today that wont end in disaster
drifting nova
??
pseudo merlin
arms is about to be goated