balance

[drifting nova]

also got an hour from the bot for a normal sentence

didnt like words

[lucid olive]

arctic told someone that it doesnt matter what race you play and theyre all equal ish anyway and he got called a slur in dms

[wise hare]

i can give you an hour for free

[wise hare]

lmao

[round field]

valid tbh

[lucid olive]

from someone in top 100 guild

[drifting nova]

right?

[round field]

that is actually valid

everyone knows night elf > all

[drifting nova]

1984

[wise hare]

well the higher you go the less they can communicate

[lucid olive]

100%

[round field]

i still remember being linked the forum post first thing when i joined my last guild

[vale pebble]

by that you are implying the lower you go the better they can communicate

[round field]

it was so funny

[wise hare]

there is a middle ground

[lucid olive]

i imagine echo closed team meetings is just them unga bunga grunting at each other

[wise hare]

at some point the lower you go the worse they can communicate again

[wise hare]

monkey noises

[round field]

mods

mod is being racist

[wise hare]

lil timeout?

just for you

[round field]

you cant time out for that

thats dictatorship

[wise hare]

what did you say

i cant hear you

weird

[spice roost]

lmfao

[wise hare]

must have been the wind

@round field does it tell you how long the timeout is?

[safe kite]

this is oppression manifest

[round field]

just because you can doesnt mean its justified!

[round field]

yes

when i joined RLE

i got insta timeouted

without even saying anything

[wise hare]

lol

[safe kite]

Valid

[round field]

freedom of speech is dead

we live in a society

[obsidian fjord]

you type a lot but you dont really say anything so i dont know why they bothered timing you out

[wise hare]

cause its fun

isnt it

[round field]

am i being flamed

i cant tell

[safe kite]

verbally assaulted

[wise hare]

i think so

[lucid olive]

yeah that guy is my new favorite clover

[drifting nova]

clover?

mean the butter?

[vale pebble]

yes

[round field]

ride

[tardy hare]

I was forced to play resto last night on raid. Can I get a hug?

[round field]

rude

[round field]

no u probably smell

[tardy hare]

No way! I had a shower last week

[safe kite]

Honestly it's your own fault for not refusing to learn how to heal.

[tardy hare]

But I gotta tell you...I liked the raid healing

[round field]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

thats even worse

[safe kite]

nobody likes healing stop lying

[tardy hare]

I will play resto on m+ too

What am I even doing here?!

[round field]

healing is the training wheels role in the game

[tardy hare]

True

[severe osprey]

Man I really thought I'd enjoy Balance with Eclipse on a button but somehow that random gcd makes it feel even worse

[misty vapor]

Why is there no balance druid sims on simulation craft ? And no trinket sims on bloodmallet by extension ?

[safe kite]

they just need to take it of the gcd in the next 2 or so expansions and it will feel good

[round field]

cause those websites smell

there is no benefit of making them work

[misty vapor]

they racist ?

[obsidian fjord]

use raidbots topgear

bloodmallet sucks

[round field]

cause they dont give you anything usefull

i like this yellow sprout

[drifting nova]

blizzard wont accept they were wrong tho so

[round field]

hes chill

[obsidian fjord]

good players are racist to bloodmallet

[drifting nova]

are you colourblind?

[round field]

no why?

[drifting nova]

yellow sprout?

[safe kite]

hence why we need 2 expansions, more than enough time for the devs to be outed as sexpests and replaced with new ones.

[round field]

?

what is this if not yellow

[drifting nova]

I'm going to make breakfast

and you'l figure out what colours are by the time I get back

[round field]

???????

[spice roost]

kekkers blind confirmed

[obsidian fjord]

this chinese diplomat guy knows how to get under peoples skin

[safe kite]

yea, it's clearly mustard and not yellow. Learn your colour theory

[spice roost]

it isnt intentional for kekkers hes just like that

[round field]

what kind of mustard are u eating...

[obsidian fjord]

dijon

[round field]

dijon is not that bright

[drifting nova]

wont he want it back?

[obsidian fjord]

personally think dijon would be the highest iq of mustards

[round field]

dijon is too expensive

[obsidian fjord]

english middle iq

you can guess the bottom one

[round field]

are there other kinds of mustard than dijon and normal?

[drifting nova]

..whats normal?

[round field]

uhm

normal?

[drifting nova]

colmans?

[round field]

idk what a colmans is

[drifting nova]

mustard you doughnut

[round field]

im too european for this

[drifting nova]

brexit wasnt far enough

[safe kite]

I mean you have smooth and you have grainy mustard two very different kinds. If you were truly European you would know this

[round field]

hows brexit going for u

wdym grainy mustard

[drifting nova]

it's..going?

[round field]

why would i want grainy mustard

[drifting nova]

it looks like a pancake

[round field]

[spice roost]

that looks gross

chunky af

[obsidian fjord]

how would you feel if i said that about you

[spice roost]

lol

[lucid olive]

it's as simple as nobody has bothered submitting a profile

[safe kite]

that's what real mustard looks like.

[drifting nova]

think I used too many eggs, help

[round field]

How are u so bad

[lucid olive]

and i will not be submitting one cause you shouldn't use bloodmallet or trust the simc stack anyway

[round field]

Ok buy bloodmallet was always correct for me

[safe kite]

instead we shall double down on whatever homebrew build we cooked up our selves. Like real gamers.

[lucid olive]

i am somewhat forced to interact with those public sim spreadsheets

cause those will publish their paywalled misinformation anyway

i could just not give a fuck and let everyone be misled by them but thatd be disingenous

[obsidian fjord]

just join in on the scam

[fossil hemlock]

Just do what Catha did

[lucid olive]

there's nothing better than a good grift to put some sugar in your porridge

[maiden pasture]

put all the sim numbers are 67, move on

[lucid olive]

ye thats not really an option since the spreadsheet guy plays moonkin

[fossil hemlock]

Unforch

[safe kite]

It's pretty straight forward anyways, all the dungeon trinkets are aboslute horseshit, and the raid ones are good. Don't need no bloodmallet to figure that one out

[lucid olive]

algethar trinket pretty good

[obsidian fjord]

can boomy proc the whistle on its own

[fossil hemlock]

Assuming the sim model is correct yeah

[lucid olive]

it procs off of resource gain

[fossil hemlock]

That's so dumb

[lucid olive]

so casting anything that generates AP procs it

can look at logs to confirm

[safe kite]

That's a support trinket, it means i have to help out another player and that's just not something I am willing to do

[drifting nova]

so like most patches then

[pallid bay]

proof?

[sudden flame]

heres your proof

[pallid bay]

lil glorp

[lucid olive]

gut feeling

and my gut is pretty large so there's room for a lot of feelings in there

[pallid bay]

so you made it up

[vale pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/983523075897327659/1483208770740818001/twitter-gif-2033619715944337767_69b86fbc5d0d7.gif

proof

[still rampart]

hey all, is there a reason why the delve talents on wowhead recommend not taking taunt on your treants for KotG hero talent?

[lucid olive]

what do you need taunt for

[still rampart]

this one

[lucid olive]

yeah i know the talent

[obsidian fjord]

what do you think a treant yells when it taunts a mob

maybe some kind of rude words for meat eaters

[lucid olive]

i could change the build to take taunt treants but is there really a reason to

that build probably needs updating anyway so why not

i can't really come up with a solid argument to not take taunt trees either

[obsidian fjord]

probably the 200% more damage part

[lucid olive]

yeah the only argument would be that you can just kite the mobs and shouldn't need treants to taunt for you

but thats not a good argument when the talent build is aimed at delve doers

i changed the build now

refresh page or something

[still rampart]

keeping the mobs in one place in a delve instead of them chasing me and smacking me around

[lucid olive]

ursols vortex

[still rampart]

especially on harder levels, being able to have them all grouped instead of worrying about kiting is nice

[lucid olive]

sure but you also do massively reduced dmg if one of your trees die

[still rampart]

sry the messages weren't loading for some reason

[lucid olive]

since each tree is a 4% dmg increase

[misty tundra]

what's the rule with starfall now? is it still 3+ targets?

[jaunty blaze]

Go bear and let valeera dps

Girl is pamping

[lucid olive]

nah heck bear it takes too long

[wheat crown]

How far behind kotg is EC

[jaunty blaze]

I feel like its about the same

[lucid olive]

doing delves on moonkin is easy anyway

[trail stone]

Hey we are overlaping eclipses ? If yes why ?

[jaunty blaze]

It is yes

[lucid olive]

define overlapping

[lucid olive]

depends what you're measuring by

[trail stone]

With eclipse and use ca too

[lucid olive]

full single target, raid stacked cleave, spread cleave raid fight, mythic+ with few mobs each pack or mythic+ with a lot of mobs per pack?

[wheat crown]

Im trying to justify EC over Kotg in raid. Just due to overall movement and my personal enjoyment of moonfire

[lucid olive]

it's good to do in places where your Eclipse cooldown would overcap otherwise

[lucid olive]

EC is much worse for movement though

EC is about the same on pure ST with Convoke

[trail stone]

I was watching tchub and he did it and he dont waiting to sync tree with eclipse

[wheat crown]

I dont seem to have a problem with movement at all

[lucid olive]

link log

[fossil hemlock]

Has it gotten much worse since tww? I remember people said the same back then, but we had instant casts constantly

I know we lost woe

[lucid olive]

nah

[jaunty blaze]

It's the same

[wheat crown]

I have soo many instant casts

[lucid olive]

more spenders + cast Wrath outside of Eclipse + apex talent instant builder

i don't like the change they made to SOTF tbh making Starfire AP gen not scale with target count anymore

[trail stone]

U gonna do a guide on YouTube gamz ?

[wheat crown]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/zuljin/nimmx

My boomkin gear is still a work in progress but here

[lucid olive]

no

[trail stone]

😦

[lucid olive]

8.9% cancelled casts on paladin boss

decent active time though but that boss is just stand still simulator

[wheat crown]

Yea i switched boomkin and the 2nd pull we killed it. Didn't get to line up right

We didnt do the stand still strat

The entire raid moved around room

[lucid olive]

well thats the whole point in EC being worse for movement

[lofty depot]

Have u considered he's playing incorrectly

[ruby badger]

The movement even with the move around the room strat is coverable by like a wild charge and 1/2 spenders tbf

[lucid olive]

you were forced to move for raid fight and cancelled 9% of all your casts

[wheat crown]

My kotg would have been worse

Cause I suck at it lol

[lofty depot]

Paladins likely the only boss u'll play EC

[lucid olive]

you can play whatever hero talent you want and they are both about equal in dmg, but EC is marginably harder mechanically while KOTG requires more cooldown planning

[trail stone]

Hmmm no cause i'm sure he is better than me, but make sense lol

[wheat crown]

Note** I only have 1 hand and dont get to playbwith a mouse

[obsidian fjord]

holy based

what is your setup like

[wheat crown]

I use an azeron cyborg2

[lofty depot]

That doesn't matter

[obsidian fjord]

ah its like that thing swifty uses

(my goat)

[lofty depot]

Theres likely 1000s better than u. That doesn't mean they're not jus vibe pressing shit

[trail stone]

But he did it entire fight

Not once

[obsidian fjord]

echo moonkins won rwf playing wrong covenant

[lofty depot]

So

Ur saying he played wrong the entire fight, crazy

[trail stone]

Lol

[dusk coral]

Sadly i can never understand when use FoE with kotg build

[obsidian fjord]

dont forget that every second time he played wrong it cancelled out to make a right

[lofty depot]

With all ur other cds

[dusk coral]

But trees are up 15s before foe

[trail stone]

I just want know why

[jaunty blaze]

Hoooly

[obsidian fjord]

very cool

[wintry umbra]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cf4KQdTtG7gW3JcP?fight=11&type=damage-done&source=11 any advice to push into the 90s parses?

[lofty depot]

So press foe later

Or press trees later

[dusk coral]

Ty

[lofty depot]

Ur playing control, ur not losing anything holding for up to 15s

U can alternatively play rm in fights as well

[round field]

ec has potential to be a good fun talent choice if they just delete lunar calling

[drifting nova]

jimmy, disregard that uncultured comment

[round field]

single handedly the worst talent in the entire game

[drifting nova]

you are LITERALLY colour blind

[round field]

i hope whoever designed it got fired with a legal note banning him from applying to another job ever

[dusk coral]

If i take rm, should i play with control of the dream ?

[lucid olive]

thats sick

[lucid olive]

yeah do more dam

[pallid bay]

why does it have a flashlight though

[lucid olive]

theyre gamer leds

[lucid olive]

enter eclipse first

wait till 2nd treants before using 2nd incarn

[wintry umbra]

Lol that's the goal

[lucid olive]

don't sunfire every 5 seconds

if you have to use a movement global then you should plan better

dont cast Starfire in Solar Eclipse

shouldve had incarn for this treant cast but you used it for no reason on pull

[wintry umbra]

Yeah I've been working on this one y'all had me make the habit from when it was the advice originally so sometimes still autopilot to it

[ruby badger]

Is it not better to press starfire in solar eclipse if you're about hit adds that will only live like 5 seconds with it?

[lucid olive]

it was never the advice

[lucid olive]

no just press wrath in solar..

you can press Starfire inside CA/Incarn when both Eclipses are active

inside Solar its just Wrath

[wintry umbra]

I may have misread or assumed it was for both eclipse and ca

[proud moon]

im finding the new incarnation of eclipse a bit weird, maybe it's because im just levelling right now but it's just, keep it active? which you can pretty much have 100% on with what 2s downtime?

im guessing it's more of an active consideration later if you plan ahead to go into a particular eclipse for when ads are coming or something? maybe im missing something

[jaunty blaze]

You definitely won't have 100%

[lucid olive]

idk if it helps you but you can check out the bottom of the rotation guide on wowhead, I wrote this up

[jaunty blaze]

In a real fight

[ruby badger]

downtime will only come about in several long minute fights

the downtime between mobs while levelling covers the gaps for oyu

[wintry umbra]

Ah updated since I last checked I'll take a look

[lucid olive]

its not 100% uptime with 2s downtime, the effect lasts 15 seconds and the cooldown is 32 seconds

[round field]

30 with a talent even

!

[proud moon]

so im not missing something, it is literally just press button where im at right now

[lucid olive]

banger talent that

[proud moon]

true

[wintry umbra]

And thank you for taking a look

[lucid olive]

For the first 3 ish minutes of a fight you feel like you have so many resources with 2 charges of Eclipse and 2 charges of CA, and after that you feel like you're scrambling for any resource

[round field]

just kill boss faster

[lucid olive]

I think they should change Eclipse to be like a 20 second recharge instead and rework CA/Incarn so we can get rid of this cringe opener and uptime shit

[proud moon]

so it is kind of just a case of keep it active as much as you can, no major considerations at least when levelling

anything i should change before i start off levelling in earnest?

[drifting nova]

did I hear you say incarn applies dots

[round field]

wash ur ears

[lucid olive]

Like if you FoE at 5-7 ish seconds in a fight and then hold 2nd Treants for 1:05 to line it up you can end up overcapping your Eclipse cooldown

It's worse with Incarn since it lasts 20 seconds

[spice roost]

gams whats better for raiding and keys on balance druid avoidance or leech enchants

[obsidian fjord]

confucius say if you avoid the damage you dont need to leech it back

[round field]

leech is better cause it improves your healing logs

[sudden flame]

[raven pelican]

Hello all, do you know of any good balance druid streamer that actually use an addon like trufigcd? I really need help to understand what i need to press, seeing it in action helps me a lot being slightly autistic i cant seems to understand the complex info we got on dreamgrove +_+ i feel stupid saying it but it is as it is for me sadly

I used to watch dwilkz last season but he doesn't show his spells anymore 😒

[trail heath]

Good morning my beautiful boomys

[opal axle]

during the opener, after incarn and before convoke, aside from starsurge to dump astral power, do we spend Touch the cosmos/Starweaver procs before convoke?

[dense steeple]

I know it sounds crazy but you could ask dwilkz to put the spell cast tracker back on. Hes a generally understanding and helpful guy

[raven pelican]

i'll try, thx

[dense steeple]

Did you read the compendium?

[lucid olive]

think I could see it on his stream yesterday?

next to his details

[ruby badger]

Dsune had it on his normal clear a few days ago

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2726547001

[dense steeple]

Toastradamus is goated name tbh

[proud moon]

Press Fury of Elune during an Eclipse or right before pressing Force of Nature

^wowhead guide question, why is it important to use FoE within an eclipse and/or immediately before FON

[opal axle]

yes, what am i missing?

[lucid olive]

theres no real reason to, you can spend it if you want but you kinda want to Convoke early in your cooldowns

[proud moon]

oh duh because it's astral which is arcane and nature buffed by eclipse? ignore that part, but the fon part im not clear on

[ruby badger]

fon increases damage while the treants are active

[proud moon]

ahhh yes

[lofty depot]

Asp generation, syncing CDs

[ruby badger]

so it's good practice to line it up with other CDs

for reasons beyond generally trying to line up CDs as any class

[proud moon]

that's from kotg hero talent harmony of the grove right?

[ruby badger]

idk the talent off the top of my head but that sounds right

[dense steeple]

It does not say it must be done. Nor does it say it cant be done

[proud moon]

it's the end talent for kotg hero tree

4% dmg per treant

[ruby badger]

that's the one ye

[proud moon]

thank you

[dense steeple]

It just says "are you below 40 asp"

[proud moon]

ironically, syncing up cds probably isnt as important as staggering them for me while im questing

unless i want to nuclear bomb some poor nonelite

[lucid olive]

Convoke doesnt consume or proc Starweaver or Cosmos so they kinda don't matter as much to spend before Convoke

[opal axle]

yea haha but that was what im trying to figure out

[round field]

nothing is rly important while questing

[silk zealot]

Hi new druid enjoyer here, which hero talent is recommended as beginner?

[dense steeple]

Yeah so the only thing that matters is that you are below 40 asp 🙂

[proud moon]

i know but i like to understand and do things right from the outset, i main resto but would like to brush up on balance during this time

[lucid olive]

You just want to Convoke at less AP than the cost of Starsurge to avoid overcapping your AP with Convoke

[dense steeple]

Guides dont take questing in open world as content that is considered in rotations

[lofty depot]

EC is cringe, don't let any one tell you otherwise

[opal axle]

ok that's a good point

[lucid olive]

but you don't want to spend too many globals in cooldowns before using Convoke

[opal axle]

thanks

[proud moon]

ofc

[fiery kindle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TyNhq8b6Xx1CB3Kn?fight=32&type=damage-done&source=11&view=timeline
You can review this log

[silk zealot]

Sold

[lofty depot]

I will not be reviewing recruities log, he said he was vibe casting

[lucid olive]

sometimes you can probably send Convoke at like 60AP as well if you're overrun by resources and if spending it all would delay your Convoke to finish after your Treants run out

[round field]

dont listen to anything @lofty depot says play what you want, he is a known misinformation spreader

[lofty depot]

Here

[fiery kindle]

then pls send me the log so i can review it

[lofty depot]

Next week forsure

[silk zealot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/smile-grinch-maniacal-x7gjmBuaHrWak

I was going to go EC anyways

[round field]

[lofty depot]

I was vibe casting, sending CDs for adds on most bosses cuz we have helpers

Wcyd

[fiery kindle]

dot - eclipse - starsurge 3x - wraith - fury of elune - force of nature - ca pot convoke

easy opening i guess

[lofty depot]

U forgot Sunfire before foe

But yes

[fiery kindle]

yea

always use ca with force of nature, right?

[lofty depot]

Also, sim pots at eclipse

[lofty depot]

Yes

U trees essentially on cd

[fiery kindle]

oh i should try this

[lofty depot]

U ca with trees

U convoke with ca

[fiery kindle]

but i think its worst

[lofty depot]

Well ur feely craft doesn't matter

[lucid olive]

the potion lasts 30 seconds

your treants will have run out by then

[fiery kindle]

I'll share my log tonight, looking forward to your suggestions

[fiery kindle]

@lucid olive What's the rotation for aoe boss, vaelgor maybe

Build up AP pre-spawn, then dump it into Starfall spam when adds are up, right

[lofty depot]

This is correct

Outside of those adds tho, u surge

[fiery kindle]

shod i run convoke or incarn for this fight?

[lofty depot]

Prefer incarn

[fiery kindle]

I need to check the logs...

It used to be just popping CA and Convoke, but it feels so different now lol.

[nimble glen]

what's the latest talent req for raid talents? seems the wh and iv recs haven't been updated since buffs?

[fiery kindle]

i use this

[reef ocean]

Is ?? Delve boss required for max weekly rewards, or can you just do the ? Difficulty?

[safe kite]

?? gives 60 hero crests and 30 mythic above cap and 5 of each within it.

[bleak kiln]

Ugh we're C tier in raid? Go figure

[safe kite]

at this point it's on you. You know what specs blizzard likes that doesn't change between tiers

[reef ocean]

Can't remember, what crests does ? Give again? And is it separate rewards to ??

[bleak kiln]

Definitely incorrect

Ele shaman was great last xpac

Now? Not so much

[flint drift]

I absolutely fucked it in raid I was asked to swap to balance last minute.

When It comes to casting all my abilities I feel like it's a cluster fuck.

For ST wrath to eclipse to FoN to fury of Elune then incarnation? Does in carn overwrite eclipse? It felt a bit off tbh but mostly as I had never played keeper before

[safe kite]

how is warlock doing?

[bleak kiln]

Demo is currently bugged to death

[round field]

warlock op

as usual

[bleak kiln]

Doing 10% less damage

[safe kite]

you can literally just play warlock then

[bleak kiln]

Destro is fine I guess and aff just plain sucks

[safe kite]

S tier every raid

[round field]

Yep

If you wanna play

Go mage or warlock

Or hunter

One spec perma op

Minimum

[safe kite]

yep

[round field]

pure dps classes good

mby not rogue

rogue kinda sus

and if you like assa rogue might aswell quit the game

[bright bone]

Hi, which hero talents are the best for m?

[round field]

blizzard rly hates that spec for some reason

[restive quail]

Good morning everyone! I have a crucial question. I've seen many balance maps with various builds for single+add fights, and I'd like to know which is the "best" build, or if there are significant differences in DPS between them?

[lucid olive]

things like that is usually explained on the same page as the talent sections in guides

[vital swift]

i was analyzing top 1 log yesterday and the guy was using starfalls all fight long, is this wrong?

on vaelgor and ezzorak hc

[last nebula]

Starfall only Proc Surges is the way

[vale pebble]

look at rank1 gear

🥀

how can play

[vital swift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bjMcy8164rXn7JY9?fight=23&type=casts&source=158
this guy wtf??!

[vital swift]

his gear is like 4 ilvls lower then mine bro XD

[vale pebble]

ah its a new guy

there was a guy at like 264

🥀

[vital swift]

WTF

crafted staff with hc crests or how?

massive ilvl

[last nebula]

imagine having 264

[wheat radish]

Realistically when 2+ you starfall anyway right?

[vale pebble]

hes rank3

[wheat radish]

And imagine getting drops

[glacial steeple]

Basically unranked tbh

[vital swift]

i dunno, it seems like it

[wheat radish]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cock-depressed-gif-1388567408964739728

I’m only 250 atm. My drops have been next to nothinggggg i get hand me downs

[vital swift]

pog i found him, what a chad

4p set already with bis trinkets

[vale pebble]

he looted every piece

🥀

[quick kite]

are boomy sims reliable at the current time?

[vital swift]

i think top1 log on this boss can be done without

4p

[wheat radish]

I saw heroic gaze drop

Lost it to a frost mage

[last nebula]

gear doesnt kill bosses

[wheat radish]

🥀

[vital swift]

💔

[quick kite]

dropped in my guild run... we lost it to the random pug healer

Q_Q

[vital swift]

imagine a guild losing a bis trinket to a random andy 💀

[wheat radish]

Oof

I pugged heroic for that fight

[flint drift]

We lost it to our worst warlock

Cringe

[wheat radish]

2nd tried it

And oof. Lost it to a frost mage doing grey parses

I feel your pain

He was grey parsing like 9 for his ilvl when i was at 50 parse for the fight

And he was still higher dps

🥀

[flint drift]

We had people people doing a 1 parse

I didn't know it was a thing

[wheat radish]

Is def a thing. Just feels bad seeing grey parses doing more dps than blue parses

[rugged epoch]

So can I ask after changes what hero talent is best for m+?

[flint drift]

M+ is still chosen of Elune

[bronze topaz]

is this trinket good for us? Liquid armory got it pretty high up in the sims and the only way I see us proccing it is insta cast regrowth and convoke

[rugged epoch]

👍

[reef ocean]

When is next free catalyst charge?

[vale pebble]

it procs off ur damage spells

[bronze topaz]

says helpfull spells and abilities though, that usually means healing stuff no?

also its not even in the balance loot table

[vale pebble]

#1 rule never trust tooltips

[crude cobalt]

can you do the delve map and beacon of hope and get 2 pieces of hero loot or is it capped to 1 per week?

[vale pebble]

1 per week

[crude cobalt]

sadge

[vale pebble]

but beacon drops u the map

type beat

doesnt give u the hero item

[bronze topaz]

is there a way to sim it? Cause it doesnt show up in the droptimizer since its not in the loot table.

[vale pebble]

u can click offspec

[crude cobalt]

ah okay makes sense, thanks!

what does the beacon boss drop? champion?

[vale pebble]

erm

dont think he drops anything? idk i forgot

he drops the map tho

and u need the map to get the item type beat

[crude cobalt]

I'll try it out, map for next week atleast

[restive garden]

Howdy! Any ideas why dont we enter Eclipse when pushing cooldowns such as: Celestial Alignment ?

[tall gale]

Is there any addon that put our AP on the mouse?

[vagrant sequoia]

Because it resets starlord stacks

[wheat radish]

Does celestial put you in it?

[vagrant sequoia]

Yeah

[restive garden]

Ah

So it puts you in Eclipse already

[vagrant sequoia]

Celestial Alignment = Stronger Eclipse

[restive garden]

Booya

[wheat radish]

Gives you both as well

[weary ravine]

Hello! In raid when there are a lot of targets or adds and i have force of nature available is it worth to use it on lunar eclipse with starfall? Or should i save it for solar eclipse?

[wheat radish]

From what ive seen even in multi target you always solar

[vagrant sequoia]

Priority is to line it up with celestial alignment, but if you'll have force of nature back in time it's recommended to pair with eclipse.

[round field]

Starfall does not care if youre in lunar or solar

[wheat radish]

@vagrant sequoia From what ive seen its always solar unless you incarn/align for even multi target

Oh thats why there we go

I always thought lunar helped Starfall for some reason

[round field]

No

Starfall is astral

So both eclipsea buff it

[wheat radish]

Makes so much more sense

[raven pelican]

I was just blind +_+ thx

[lofty depot]

It is, and as stated most people were vibe casting.

[wheat radish]

I was using just solar anyway but makes more sense now why

[vagrant sequoia]

I mean, if you're just going to starfire during AoE, it's probably better to lunar eclipse. However, in raid you're more likely to have AoE for a portion of the duration of the eclipse so you'll come out on top with a solar eclipse in that situation.

[wheat radish]

So is there any reason m+ build uses only lunar then over solar like raid?

[raven pelican]

@lucid olive Do you stream?

[vagrant sequoia]

M+ is more AoE focused so you're more likely to be using Starfire as your filler than wrath.

[round field]

No but you can watch good players play instead

Gamz is a fraud

[raven pelican]

xD

[tall gale]

[round field]

He only writes the guides cause no one else wants to

Thats the harsh truth

[vagrant sequoia]

Gamz exposed his bark yesterday, he has my respect

[round field]

All bark no bite

[weary ravine]

In m+ always lunar eclipse, is it worth to use starfire as a filler in a boss fight?

[vagrant sequoia]

I'd wrath

[weary ravine]

Indeed tyvm 🙂

[round field]

depends what hero talent you play

[vagrant sequoia]

Yeah, I was wrong

Wowhead says for ST to use starfire as filler for asp gen

[weary ravine]

I'm going with elunes grove, i heard maybe I'm wrong that in m+ always Starfire maybe i didnt understand verywell

[vagrant sequoia]

But outside of eclipse I'd definitely use wrath

[maiden pasture]

are u gaming this tier

[round field]

no why

[maiden pasture]

just wondering

ur like omega active for someone that aint gaming xd

[round field]

im just bored at work

[maiden pasture]

valid

[round field]

not a fan of the state of the spec

and whats going on in ions brain

so therefore i have decided not to give ion money

[vagrant sequoia]

What's your biggest gripe with the spec rn?

[round field]

i just think its boring

no real changes in the last 5 years

[vagrant sequoia]

I personally feel like it lacks instant cast procs

[maiden pasture]

how come u dont multispec anymore? u played dk one tier right

[maiden pasture]

theres none needed really

[round field]

im bad at everything that isnt boomkin

so i dont have fun playing

[vagrant sequoia]

UH dk right now feels super good, the festering wounds change makes it less of a PITA to hard swap targets

[maiden pasture]

you have so many movement globals as moonkin

[vagrant sequoia]

The issue is that the movement (outside of wild charge) costs multiple gcds due to shapeshifts

[maiden pasture]

no

u pool asp so that u can have movement globals

[vagrant sequoia]

You still lose gcd shapeshifting back into owl form

[maiden pasture]

what are u saying

[round field]

huh

[maiden pasture]

ur movement globals

[round field]

is fluid form not in the game

[maiden pasture]

are

starsurge

also u have fluid form ye

[vagrant sequoia]

Oh sorry, I mistinterpreted what movement globals meant in this context

[maiden pasture]

movement globals = globals that u can use while moving

[vagrant sequoia]

Makes sense

[round field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181574946321870999/1366149059647115395/chrome_fnGFx6XDDN.gif

[vagrant sequoia]

But there's still a double edged sword with dumping asp while moving since you also have to time eclipse so you have time to the regen for starlord refresh

[round field]

well

its either that

or not pressing anything

which one is worse

[vagrant sequoia]

Pre positioning baby

[round field]

uhm yeah

thats not always possible is it now

[vagrant sequoia]

nope xD

[round field]

its just caster fundementals

[vagrant sequoia]

abc

[stark cipher]

Hi ! do you recommend to craft the staff 285 on wednesday?

[lofty depot]

Those who can't do, teach.

[lofty depot]

Well when things are.stacked, u go into lunar more often. Unless u mean EC vs keeper on which case EC only goes into lunar.

Most of raid u can sit in solar as keeper

[vale pebble]

yea

there is no other choice realistically

[stark cipher]

TY my fried chicken

[vagrant sequoia]

Does anyone know if there's an add-on that'll let you replace the icon displayed in CDM for a particular buff?

[lofty depot]

Think ayije's does

[obtuse jungle]

how can you do nullaeus on boomy if you don'T even have enough cd to stop his cast, he cast every 45 and its on 1 minute cd

[glacial steeple]

You cannot

[vale pebble]

u have a talent that makes solar beam be 45s

[obtuse jungle]

where is it ?

[lofty depot]

People saying the kick is shorter than 45

[vale pebble]

[obtuse jungle]

i already have it and i think its 35 sec or smt

can'T get it

[vale pebble]

well then we are lying arent we

[normal pilot]

press n try diff spec

[upbeat sable]

tank or healer it is then

[vale pebble]

idk i just bobstomped it on bear

[hollow mist]

idk i just bobstomped it on bear

[vale pebble]

if u rly want to do it maybe u can los the cast somewhere or some shit

[obtuse jungle]

ah its a circle thing i do not thing we can

no pillar or anything of the sort

another well developped shit by blizzard

[normal pilot]

your $15 at work

[obtuse jungle]

EXACTLY

[normal pilot]

i'm glad you like it

[vale pebble]

u can put valeera on dps

and get killed by dispell

if u want

pick your poison

[obtuse jungle]

idk both sucks

[vale pebble]

hf

go spec bear with int weapon and oneshot it

[obtuse jungle]

XD

[vale pebble]

and dont step foot in there again

[obtuse jungle]

bear with int weapon to rekt him

gotta show some domminance

[lucid olive]

he casts every 35 seconds

xd

probably fixed over reset

[obtuse jungle]

wish we had the kick from the bear or something

[vale pebble]

yea we went over this lil gup here is lying

[lucid olive]

they pushed a hotfix on thursday or whatever to make the cast cd scale with different kick cooldowns and messed up beam

[obtuse jungle]

oh so thursday

it will be 45 😮 ???

[vale pebble]

last thursday

[lucid olive]

no

[vale pebble]

[lucid olive]

past tense

you could kill it as moonkin wednesday

[obtuse jungle]

and now they cocked my hard cause they want me to play bear, thats what you're saying right ?

[lucid olive]

but yeah i also just did it in 3 pulls as guardian

[obtuse jungle]

my 15$ at spaghetti code right now XD

[astral osprey]

so is it starsurge or starfall on 2 targets? compendium says both depending on where you read

[glacial steeple]

Starfall

[royal zenith]

100k overall, HOLY MOLY

too bad we can't track overall in an m0...

[lofty depot]

Wrong

[lofty depot]

Surge at 2

And u can do some cool stellar amp target swapping for dam increase

[royal zenith]

cool 😭

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[jolly delta]

someone should really update compendium...

[lofty depot]

In a few days surely

[round field]

isnt that ur job

[grave scaffold]

does this mean I should be surging on dragons and saving ap for starfall for orbs?

[woven flint]

even with kindling ?

[jolly delta]

its a job only if someone pays you

if no one pays you its either slavery or charity you decide

[glacial steeple]

What if we pay to do it?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[lofty depot]

Yes

[jolly delta]

That said I would do it but I'm unsure on the current state of sims and gamz refused to comment so I'm just waiting for him

[grave scaffold]

Is it better because of stellar amp + tier set or is stellar amp enough on its own?

[jolly delta]

But yes, surging on 2t should be the correct play

[lofty depot]

Yea Starfall nerfed, surge biff

[jolly delta]

It is also a bit ugly to write since the rest of the 2T rotation still applies, it's just starfall that kicks in at 3t

[eager raft]

Save mental do it as resto

[nimble tangle]

so duo dragons is a starsurge ST rotation?

[lofty depot]

yes

[stone ledge]

I’m a simple man I see starfall light up and I press it

[sturdy nova]

How do i write Eclipse into a macro. So that both lunar and solar version work? Just /cast Eclipse doesn'tseem to work

[normal pilot]

not sure you can with how the dev coded it

there is no such spell as eclipse it's 2 separate spells solar eclipse and lunar eclipse

[sturdy nova]

Can i do some spell known check maybe

[lofty depot]

what are u trying to do

[normal pilot]

no because you know both spells

[lofty depot]

what are u trying to add to that button press that requires a macro

[sturdy nova]

I have this macro that i use to go in/out of moonkin form, cast eclipse if im in form. + use health potion with modifier etc

So i just basically need
/use [form:4,nomod,nomounted] Eclipse

[lofty depot]

why are we going in and out of moonkin form

what requires u to not be in moonkin form to press health pot

[sturdy nova]

Those are separate functionalities

Behind modifiers

The basic thing is no form -> use form. In form -> use eclipse

[lofty depot]

tragic cooking ig

the way that ability works i dont think u can macro like that

[sudden mirage]

just put solar eclips or lunar eclipse in the macro

it adjusts to the one u will enter

[sturdy nova]

No it wont

[sudden mirage]

thats weird cuz mine is literally this #showtooltip
/cast [nomod]Solar Eclipse;[mod:shift]Wild Charge;[mod:ctrl]Flap;

and it works on EC

where u dont even have a solar eclipse

[sturdy nova]

Maybe it Solar works, ill try

I had lunar there before

[lofty depot]

lol the fuck is that macro

[lucid olive]

Solar is the default

[sudden mirage]

i only use 1 bar

on standart interface

so i play with modifier on each key

xd

[lucid olive]

The default state of the Eclipse button is Solar; casting Starfire applies a hidden buff called "Lunar Eclipse override" that changes the button state to Lunar

[lofty depot]

rolls d20

[quiet drift]

Default problems require advanced solutions

[lucid olive]

real

[sturdy nova]

Yeah, Solar works

Thanks

[lofty depot]

.... this fuck rolled a 9 and i rolled 7 unforch

[jaunty blaze]

get rolled

[quiet drift]

You have casted Starfire prior to trying to cast Lunar Eclipse

Macroing Luner Eclipse works just fine for me

[ornate girder]

arctic pls roll better

[lucid olive]

blizzard implemented a one button macro in the game

but mfers still out here cooking

😭

[pseudo merlin]

What on earth am I watching

[vagrant sequoia]

One button macro is the equivalent of an automatic race car, most will say it's sacrilege, but at the end of the day what matters most is what the driver wants. All this to say, let them cook!

[lofty depot]

smh

[pseudo merlin]

an automatic race car?

Are you talking about an automatic transmission or

[vagrant sequoia]

ye

[pseudo merlin]

That's a terrible analogy

[sudden mirage]

not taking analogies from someone pissin in sinks

[vagrant sequoia]

I don't get the stigma against pissing in sinks. If someone's gotta go, they gotta go smh

I bet you're also against pissing in the shower smh

[tall gale]

Hello, do you guys recomend any UI ? I have been touching my UI but i cant make anything "decent"

[lofty depot]

depends what part ur looking at

#1473018731687841853 theres i think still a few in here

or on wowhead

[radiant onyx]

fellow sink pisser

i love u.

[wild dune]

pretty much all race cars are auto these days btw

bad analogy!

[tall gale]

mtyty

[vagrant sequoia]

ikik, I tried to generalize the gr86/brz auto/manual debate but I didn't realize the analogy was burnt until after posting it smh

[royal zenith]

lots of self-reports over here

also nobody actually cares about OBR, cause it does 20% less damage

[wild dune]

gotta have a manual to make a 200hp toyoshit engaging

[royal zenith]

:3

[vagrant sequoia]

I just dream of the day I can use OBR in a CE guild so I can scroll on tiktok mid raid smh

[jaunty blaze]

you literally can do that

right now

[royal zenith]

I dunno, people also use AHK

ye

it's not like OBR is a new thing

it's just made by blizzard rn

[vagrant sequoia]

Doesn't OBR add like 20% GCD which can be easily identified in logs?

[wild dune]

after pugging heroic and normal, alot of dps would be very well served using obr.

[royal zenith]

^

[jaunty blaze]

you still easily can get ce with that

[royal zenith]

big fan of people just using OBR if they can't play well (in pugs)

[wild dune]

should make obr mandatory until you can beat 90% of your sim dps

[grave scaffold]

how would you beat 90% sim dps if you never played your spec in the content that matters?

[lucid olive]

by practicing on training dummies

and disregarding anything to do with a sim

if you want to improve at the spec and do more damage then sims are useless outside of helping you decide what items to use

[grave scaffold]

well sure dummies are good but you can hit a dummy well and not hit a boss well

[lucid olive]

can also queue for normal and heroic raids in LFG and then play super greedy to get better at recognizing when you have to move and when you need to start planning for movement

thats all the spec comes down to

repetition is the best way to get good at anything

[pseudo merlin]

or on other people

hypocrites smh

[quiet drift]

But hitting dummies is is always the foundation

[lucid olive]

i have probably inted dozens of loot drops from heroic raid pugs cause i was queueing to practice a boss or mechanic

[lucid olive]

+1

put on your fav anime

[pseudo merlin]

Gamz certified inter?

[lucid olive]

and go to town on the dummies

[quiet drift]

A person who can do his rotation with UI disabled will always out dmg a person who has to focus on his rotation

because noone can do a boss perfect

[lucid olive]

me improving at the game > some guppy getting heroic bracers

[pseudo merlin]

real

[jaunty blaze]

😔

[pseudo merlin]

Im practicing counting the duration of my dots on 3 seperate targets in my head because blizzard doesnt allow boss frame debuff filtering on a dummy atm

cuz that's what I have to do on aleria

🙂

I hate this game

I hate this company

[royal zenith]

who says you deserve it more?

[manic plume]

Anyone know the disparity between convoke vs incarn? I want one less button to press 🙁

[royal zenith]

HMMM?

what if they paid for 100 mounts and you didnt

[pseudo merlin]

May I suggest the OBR

[royal zenith]

HMM???

[manic plume]

Too little - I like between 3-5 :^)

[lucid olive]

small sacrifice to make

[pseudo merlin]

dont you have to manually eclipse, CA, convoke?

OBR + those 3 is 4

that's exactly what you want

gottem

[lucid olive]

obr uses eclipse and convoke

not ca

[royal zenith]

just get used to convoke

[pseudo merlin]

oh does it

thats crazy

[royal zenith]

it's not that many buttons

[lucid olive]

yeah but you need to press convoke only once

[oblique depot]

speculating between feral/balance for dragons/paladins/alleria, my feral spec sims higher on 1-2 target and barely behind by 3 target, but boomy pulls ahead on logs consistently, is it just because of the encounter & boss uptime maybe?

[lucid olive]

or it auto cancels

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

hahahaha

ok so basically

it doesnt use convoke, got it

[lucid olive]

think you can make [nochanneling] macro for OBR

[manic plume]

so OBR is out then

[pseudo merlin]

oh yeah you might be right

[normal pilot]

smh just play inc

[royal zenith]

I don't think this is true, but that doesn't matter

ranged on that fight is more comfy

[oblique depot]

which part lol

[royal zenith]

• you can always damage bosses

with starfall

just dont get silenced

[pseudo merlin]

as melee on aleria you can only pad blobs

also constantly having to run out or something sounds ass

[lucid olive]

go look at melee uptime on top feral logs

[royal zenith]

looking at top 100 there's plenty of ferals in there

[pseudo merlin]

also 1 paladin is not stacked so often

[lucid olive]

then go to top feral sim and apply that uptime in the APL

see how good the spec actually is

[oblique depot]

kk ty, so balance just makes more sense overall for the encounters

[royal zenith]

this encounter, yea

but really depends on more stuff

cause the boomies in top 100 like 50% of them have the ultimate trinket

so

[jaunty blaze]

imagine getting trinkets

imagine having them drop rather

[eager raft]

Hey Deux

[royal zenith]

normally I'd say, it's just gear... but first week 4pc + vaelgor's kinda matters

hello respectable

[eager raft]

Hope you’re doing well

[royal zenith]

I was doing well

till you showed up..

gottem!!

[jaunty blaze]

😭

[eager raft]

Okay sorry for making your day worse!

[wild dune]

classic respectable

[royal zenith]

[normal pilot]

is respectable respectable again

[pseudo merlin]

always has been

[pallid bay]

Never was

Lockout thief..

[normal pilot]

whoa that's a serious accusation

[pseudo merlin]

I forgot about that

[lofty depot]

He's got proof

He's been convicted in a court of his peers

[normal pilot]

maybe he's been rehabilitated now

[eager raft]

[royal zenith]

I saw him scouting in the RLE discord

aka debatable..

[eager raft]

scouting

[lofty depot]

In the guild he's in? Nah

[sturdy pumice]

On the dragon fight in raid, are we just keeping dots up on our non-target dragon and letting starfall procs from rattle/metors damage them?

[eager raft]

What do you mean by this

[sturdy pumice]

meteors(**

[lofty depot]

U asked me to join, so clearly delusional

[eager raft]

We wouldn’t have made you stumble through playing resto in splits……

[lofty depot]

Real

[glossy lance]

Hello. Is there any point in holding onto champion crests or can I go nuts with the upgrades ?

[lofty depot]

Send them, they're piss useless next week

[coral cairn]

hey guys quick question , on ST , do we still use Starweaver's Warp procs even if we have the 3 x Ascendant Stars buffs ?

[lofty depot]

Well piss useless if u can do 10s

[lofty depot]

Is warp the Starfall proc

[coral cairn]

yeah

[lofty depot]

If u don't have asp prob

[coral cairn]

what if u do

u hold the proc till u spend the AS

if its single target i mean

[lofty depot]

I actually don't know if gamz "surge more" with said buff ignored say buff and just surged if u had enough

I assume it did but don't know forsure

[glossy lance]

And question no.2. based on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/edit?gid=711416586#gid=711416586 it looks like we're one of the specs that gains most from 4set.
Does that mean that we should expect balance to move up towards the top of the charts ?

[solar slate]

Does power of goldrinn or denizen of the dream do more damage?

[lofty depot]

Maybe, who knows... There's no St boss, everyone has adds

[lofty depot]

Goldrinn

Depends if ur spamming surge tho

[solar slate]

Thanks

[blazing mortar]

Hey guys, might be a dumb question, but concerning Alleria boss fight, i can see top loggers going for solar eclipse whole fight. Is this because of the prio damage required? or targets are too split to get value on starfire?

[lofty depot]

Starfire is for stacked mobs

So u wouldn't be going into lunar unless ur spamming starfire

[blazing mortar]

thanks ❤️

[primal patrol]

So since almost every fight has an aoe component should i just be playing incarn + starweaver the whole raid?

[jaunty blaze]

you can if you want to

[granite lodge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/illidan/twoboys?boss=3176

hey gamers. I can’t seem to parse well on the first heroic boss.
Any pro-tips? I’m not that great at interpreting logs. Other boomies are doing something I’m not, that’s for sure.

[lofty depot]

U can, u can also play convoke on many of them

Personal preference for now

[granite lodge]

My cds don’t line up well to the ad phases; and when I try and hold them my parse gets worst.

[lucid olive]

dont moonfire before treants when Moonfire is already active

[granite lodge]

Thanks, Dog. that’s a good starting place.

[lofty depot]

I held for add phases cuz helpers. First week always sus. Next week just slam

Or look at lorrgs and see

[jaunty blaze]

bro called him a dog 😭

[lucid olive]

this many sunfire/moonfire casts not necessary

[granite lodge]

It was meant to be endearing 😅

[lucid olive]

especially since you threw half of those on an immune target

dont use incarn without force of nature

[primal patrol]

is the aoe different big between convok/incarn and starweaver/rattle the stars? so If i just follow the wowhead recommend build for every fight i should do fine?

[lucid olive]

also don't Sunfire twice in 10 seconds

[fossil hemlock]

Been searching a bit for it, but can't find it clarified. Do we want to use wrath inside incarn as EC on ST?

[lofty depot]

Convoke is worse on aoe

[lucid olive]

no

[lofty depot]

But the point is to slam said CD on boss

[fossil hemlock]

I thought so, but found it a bit confusing that EC mentions using wrath inside solar eclipse

Since you cannot spec out of lunar calling anymore

[lofty depot]

It says outside

[jaunty blaze]

you still do 120% more on your main target with starfire

[lofty depot]

And or "not currently in eclipse"

[fossil hemlock]

Wasn't sure if it meant solar eclipse as in "incarn gives both"

[lucid olive]

refresh page in 5 minutes

[lofty depot]

Well rekt tell the rat to fix it

It right here

[fossil hemlock]

[tawny cloud]

I see on wow head that Emerald Coach Whistle is A tier for us, what helpful spells trigger it for us?

[fossil hemlock]

Wrath

[lucid olive]

wrath

[lofty depot]

Wrath helps get asp

[lucid olive]

I just put press wrath in solar and press starfire in lunar as basic information without tying to a checkbox

[tawny cloud]

Oh Cool thanks

thought it was more like regrowth etc

[stone ledge]

I’ll throw 25 moon fires at allleria during intermission jus to build ap ngl

[sly wadi]

sunfire fans in shambles 😢

[lofty depot]

That do be the strat

[lucid olive]

its not like alleria takes dmg in intermission

moonfire to max AP and then go travel form

travel form is a cheat for that phase

[lofty depot]

Will likely wild charge over the gap in p3 to not take damage

[lucid olive]

travel form generally good for both raids

so many bosses outside

[lucid olive]

crossing gap does dmg anyway no

the feather also does dmg

[lofty depot]

The line I thought, not the gap

But maybe gap does u then just only take damage from 1?

[royal zenith]

I will wildcharge into the gap

[lofty depot]

I'll have to look again

[lucid olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=1238206/volatile-fissure

think its this

[lofty depot]

That's the line in p2 me thinks

[lucid olive]

no

[lofty depot]

How u step on air

It says ground, make no sense

[royal zenith]

just check a log

so you can share facts instead of debating half-information..

[lucid olive]

no i'd rather insist i'm right and then backtrack later

[lofty depot]

Same

[royal zenith]

"just making conversation"

[glacial steeple]

I get sexually excited when @lofty depot yells at me that I'm wrong

[lofty depot]

That's curious

[glacial steeple]

Why you think I crafted my embellished OH with sparks?

[lofty depot]

Smh

[lucid olive]

volatile fissure is maybe the dmg from crossing over in p2

only looked at 1 log tho

[lofty depot]

Yea bud

What I say

[glacial steeple]

Gotta sim it

[glossy lance]

If I have a Hero 2/6 weapon what should I craft with my first 4 sparks ?

[lofty depot]

A staff

[manic plume]

• mythic one

[proven rampart]

is convoke on chimaerus still broken or did that get fixed?

[lofty depot]

Fixed

[proven rampart]

awesome, ty

[stone terrace]

glad i checked in on this. i did a sim for m+ and its wanting me to drop my mast by 30-40% and go over 800 haste at 250 ilvl. just feels wrong

[silk zealot]

Struggling a bit with GamzUI My chat disappeared? Is there a fix?

[lucid olive]

dm me instead of posting in here

also its an edit mode issue

and not related to my profiles

Create a custom layout and enter a preferred name.
Then move the chat close or into the ElvUI chat box and save the layout.
It does not have to be pixel-perfect, ElvUI will now automatically snap the chat.```

this is from a UI discord's FAQ post about the same issue

[indigo ether]

is there a screenshot

of what your ui looks like

also for vault.

If its between getting one of the good trinkets and getting a tier set item what do u pick?

[sly wadi]

sim yo self

[lucid olive]

xd

[indigo ether]

ooh very clean

What about with raid stuff on. Where can I download?

[lofty depot]

Depends on ur guild and situation

[indigo ether]

pugchamp

[lucid olive]

it's free on Wago but I don't really provide any support for it, its mostly on there because people were asking https://uipacks.wago.io/pack/gamz-ui

[indigo ether]

and i plan to mainly m+

[indigo ether]

ty

[lofty depot]

Depends how much said trinket Sims for

I likely would only take hero vaelgors from it other than tier

But idk getting tier is just a bigger vibe check

[indigo ether]

been unlucky

only have 1 item

[lofty depot]

Well u have 1 cata charge. Next week farm m+ get 2.... Then maybe vault = 4p

Then u start getting cata charges from content

[sly wadi]

worth using a catalyst charge on heroic pieces?

feel like id rather wait to pull a mythic piece out of vault

[ornate girder]

once you unlock 4p you get unlimited cata charges

well, 8

[lofty depot]

Worth using regardless

[ornate girder]

can earn up to the cap