#balance
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tier
Stare rather*
Something I can make into a tier piece please
Lmao my two hero pieces are a one hand and off hand
Why tier? How many tier you got so far?
2 
Used Cata charge?
ya
If not you don't really want tier tho since you get the M+ cata charge next week and you have 1 from this week
Ahhhh
Just get an LFR one tomorrow
5 chances
ya surely I get tier from somewhere 
You always want tier
Not for me, I have 2 set and will have 2 cata charges next week after 2k rio
So I get 4 piece and can just farm as many caata charges as I want
ive done both raids on all difficulties and only gotten an off hand 😔
Nah he’s getting 2k io
Yeah that's what I meant with M+ cata charge
fixed
Why is it it all tiers now?

For m+ what would be the "best" option? Grove or Elune?
was thinking of adding the algethar healer trinket to A tier but i'd rather wait until i know for sure it works or not
elune in higher keys and keeper for lower keys
When you say HK what do you mean by that? 10 / 12 ?
Or 15/17
btw if u press raid trinket Vessel of tortured souls doesn't glow up ^^
What would qualify as a helpful spell?
What tier piece is best to get first? Chest for big stats? Some of them don't have haste or mastery
its not a raid trinket
in dragonflight it used to proc off gaining resource
Ohh
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f1MvwFXTAPZdJrmY?fight=14&type=summary&source=408
Is this log worth using as an example?
yes that's what i'm trying to say
if u press on raid it don't glow anymore if i only got m+ active
yeah almost like magic
What's best way of procing it?
seeing as he does the wrong opener
no
Is there a log I can use as an example
pressing wrath
When's the best time to use the second charge of celestial alignment at the start? I assume it's when force of nature is off cd?
correct
Okay, so the order should be:
Eclipse -> Celestial Alignment -> Eclipse -> Eclipse -> Celestial Alignment -> (...)
?
(With the exception for saladboi since you want to line up the celestial alignment with the amp phase)
if you look at the bottom of the rotation page on wowhead i made a little example timeline and explanation part there
yea its rank1
its free after u get 4p achev
yea fuck him
xD
So just sending it with every convoke if you running 1 min
oh i remember
nah mine are skill

i got myth araz and then did some cool pot at 2m double ca on soulbinder and gapped people
parses the first month are the ones that matter
I probably won't be running convoke this week, it's pretty inefficient since it tends to plateau astral power during the cast leading to lower celestial alignment throughput windows.
after you kill the end boss and get CE then who the fuck cares
Uhm how does that proc it?
we gain resource is helpful
if ur killing the end boss In the first month ur parses dont matter anyway
Wait it really works/worked like that?

yes
It would yeah
some day people are gonna learn 😛
They’re a small indie company, bugs aren’t worth fixing
looks good to me
yeah pls do i dont wanna refresh trinket to buff my broke ass teammates smh
wrong
0.05 to do it differnt cba
does less damage
give me a log then
a log for what
ur mum
ill put my log on ur 4head bitch
bro where's the NSFW tag
that a promise ? 
can't be putting your bark out like that 👀

Wait until you see his profile pic
I haver a question here since we are using elune chosen the wrath cast would be starfire instead right?
i was gonna tell u to look at cotti's
but hes vibe playing right now
ope recruitie sunfire after trees
silly goose
o well close enough
Danm i got giga confused then, because i thought if were using lunar calling the star fire would be better than wrath
banned
that's the idea blizz wants but since they don't know how to evaluate damage they can't make their design do what they want
They’re just gonna make it so when you pick EC you unlearn Wrath
u think we should link blizz the sims

they can't use sims that would get you fired
imagine going to your boss and saying you're basing your next project off some rando's internet post
They just tell ChatGPT to balance the game
this is why we invented lyingn
You can’t lie on the internet
So we dont use starfire in a aoe rotation?(elune chosen)
AoE yes, single target no
But 
you Starfire in Lunar Eclipse
i can add that i guess
but also just read the EC ST rotation further up
open the collapsible
Ah ok get it, i just found confusing becasue not using starfire on aoe rotation wouldnt make sense to me 🥲
Anyone have a boomkin PoV kill for H Alleria?
goop did a bunch
Yes
your gpu and ram died for this
A worthy sacrifice
can't argue with results
Hi!
Whats the point of using fury of elune? It seemns like it doesnt synergizes with anything in the guide.
Its just a way to generate astral power?
Transition node, you need it for the next talents and it lines up with force of nature.
well...
- a prio list has all the abilities in it so u know where things go
- it helps with asp gain and can be used in aoe to do more surely
- if u dont take rm it syncs prefectly fine
if u tak rm... the 2nd use is on cd, the rest are held for ca
Question, if you take rm, do you just send fury on cd when it inevitably desyncs?
Or do you hold until next eclipse + starlord stacked up?
dot before fury + force of nature, right?
ye
if the dot is going to fall during your cooldowns then yes
if you play something like aetherial kindling its not as needed
as stated after the 2nd press. u hold for ca
since dots extend on starfall cast
u can just hold it til u send ca if u want
but it then doesnt line up
if u play control
1 minute convoke showing up on st logs? big dam?
How about playing the incarn build without foe? It felt pretty dmg neutral to me too...but maybe i was just bad at lining it up. Adds were dying by the time it was off cd on 1st boss hc
that boss gonna be weird
prey they buff starfall

or get ur focus macro out
shoud i play mushroom
nah just shift focus edzpz
speaking of which
CAN WE FILTER DEBUFFS YET
HOYL FUCK
sure or no
depends if u care
if u play worse, no
You’re cooking
can't wait for stealth flare buff OS hidden bis
question about the kotg opener it mentions spending all the apex procs before getting into main cooldowns, should it be kinda awkward to get those 3 ss out feels like im having to wrath a ton there to get the ap to ss
wrath faster
double tap wrath so you get double ap

convoke build sims a little higher than incarn build for pure ST. What would you recommend for doing H Chimaeras? At the start of the fight convoke would do very well but once adds come out I feel it would be worse
is convoke still bugged on dreamrift?
Kinda depends what your group needs
Boss dmg or adds dying
Fixed
If it is adds dying, I assume Incarn is bis?
sure
yes
doesnt 1min convoke line up better on dmg amp for nexus king too
or is that % based
not health?
icr
Dumb to wait for a mythic weapon (might take me a bit longer we shall see haha) and just make a lantern OH or just make the staff for now. Honestly for me it's just for visual enjoyment prefer the "double item" look. Then again I am not a min maxer or care that much about having the best too fast.
When he reaches full energy
that depends on skill
oh thats right 100 energy
is it a set time ?
you're insanely trolling crafting a OH
Well I think I can make both a wand on my enchanter and the lantern on my balance druid. At least to start.
let him troll himself who cares
Not really trolling at all just like the 1h look.
haha
You're crafting a.. wand?
Also why did they kill wands that weapon is kinda cool
They should make a legendary wand drop when we inevitably kill evil Khadgar in some raid
end me too pls
lol
Nah new wheelchair mount
too many boomkins wanding the boss I bet
u can have it line up if u just spend ur first 50 asp eclipse then enter incarn faster
ya i did that with incarn and it lined before i havent tried convoke on that fight
is lorggs not working for anyoen else
nvm its working now
at least thats what the racist said during the split i did
lol

missclick
SURE

what are you looking at
moonkin sized hole
Who made the apl? Should be thrown down a hole
oh noo
buffs soon then
ur buff is ur tierset

ur class is a pile of tape and glue
mmhm mmhm
They should
Nothing will get through me and my arcane powers
Hello guys!
Is good to sometimes overlap a a Eclipse with Celestial Aligment duting burst windows to get the 3 Ascendant Eclipses cast 20% damage increase?
Celestial Alignment gives you Eclipse
It just gives you both of them
So using CA right after Eclipse would essentially waste 3 apex talent spenders
how is the proper way to use it?
press ecl, use the buffs... build asp to 50. send cds
thank you very much!
Any idea why Elune's Chosen might be simming 10k lower than Grove for 3 targets? I thought Elune was the go to for Lightblinded Vanguard
This is the build
the aoe sim is kinda bork
i blame arctic
also meteorites isnt an aoe talent
Would you recommend Umbral Intensity over Meteorite?
ermmmmm
Oh wait, I have both 🙃
inside CA/INC and only 1 boss target is it worth to cast starfie with ascendant fires proc? or always wrath with 1 target
its neutral to cast either
indeed, ty
Can't really see what else I'd take other than meteorites, though. Except playing around stellar amp like you said
Ran nightmare preys, delves bountiful t8-11, full raid runs, and still havent gotten my 4th catch up spark so i can craft this week.
not sure what else to do. read online that only one toon per account can get the extra spark which makes no sense
anyone else having this issue?
nope
Have you done the quest to do 1 of each weekly activity?
the only way you get catch up spark is if you didn't get the rest
ya it's most likely the world tour quest
i believe i did the quest last week
(if you are on an alt go do the 2nd campaign skip)
Then you're missing the world tour quest
Go into inn
Turn left insta
And talk to Sidormi
On the couch
And do skip
Then go to middle where the map is and talk to Lorthemar or whatever and get world tour quest and do it
For last spark
ill check it out tysm ❤️
u wouild only play around it when 1 is in narnia
so u surge on 2
so is there any possibility of doing the delve boss as balance?
she ended up not having a quest for me
i remember going to her after i hit 90 for sure
Gotta help a brother out
Im 261 on my warrior main, and i did a m0 with a hunter that had 4 set and i couldnt believe it. i asked and he said he got 3 pieces in just normal since he was only 6/9 Normal. so i got the idea to go form my own group on my hunter and i invited 1 shaman. the first 3 bosses drop MAIL tier and i won all 3 pieces by rolling in the 90's each time. used my catalyst and now have 4 set
Kinda insane ngl
yet my warrior had 1 tier piece drop in lfr/normal/heroic and i rolled against 10 other players and obvi lost. blizzard changing the tier pieces to armor types was actually an awful decision imo
leather and plate are COOKED.
atleast for the beginning of the season.
I did a normal run on my monk 5 pieces dropped that I could roll on I rolled 12-24 on all 5 of them
It really was
I wish I would have done the raid first on my alt, then raid lead on my main.
but even on the run i led for my hunter over 30 paladins signed up.
why do people obsess over that class
its not even just Ret, its equally Prot and Holy.
Faaceroll
Every group ive been in has over 50-60% plate users.
its either you roll 100 or your screwed.
why would a season 1 of a xpac about paladins have a lot of people playing paladins
who knows really
so im going to get atleast 1 piece from my vault, 2nd from 2kio, and 3rd from catalyst so i only need to obtain 1 single piece from raid...
true
but still.
why is your game flashbanging me
HDR
You went for 1600?

I would if i was still good at it
And boomie is kinda cracked in Blitz so
I can raid at a HoF level but cant pvp for the life of me.
havent tried for a long ass time tho
is it?
i wonder if supatease is loving it
lowkey the druid discord is comfy.
It is
warrior discord has a collective braincell.
Ret discord go brr
dude i have been there once #neverforget
so you got tier from splits or just got lucky
for the other 2 pieces
#NeverForget how they shutdown discord cause pala got nerfed slightly
1 from split 1 bought from LFR day 1 for 100k
actually embarassing
Yup
I tried to buy a tier piece for 1 million in normal
bro said " i want CE this tier" while he was in blues with no prior AOTC's
but i respect the hope and dreams
tbf CE might be easier this expac with the raids all split up.
Yeah we'll see
what class do you think he was playing if you had to guess? >:S
R E T
A R D
Yeah
Spent way more than I dare admit on these achieves today
Nono these are from old expansions
Goggles look way too good
points in crafting?
Only got 5 of the pieces so this is the best i could do on my hunter for the new t-mog
tier set*
Elite PvP set of hunter looks quite good ngl
Supposed to look like this when complete.
Only missing 150 rating in Blitz to get the elite mog
hunter never gets good sets and this one looks 👍
that looks good
Common Druid W
Shame LFR set looks the best this season
Imo
Ofc
Fucking hell Vaelgor's Final Stare is so good
Like it's a 2% DPS increase from LFR
hi guys
what is this addon that highlights raid ability debuffs on the right-middle a little bit above target frame?
What's wrong with your eyes
Is Keeper of the Grove actually a contender for Raid?
It's been the go to in raid forever
EC simmed higher in manaforge and we played keeper. Don't be fouled into thinking ec is good
EC for Mythic Dung?
fakest news ever written smh
Which is fakest, What he said or EC is good (M+ or Raid)?
yes
Yes
it is so dum dum gameplay compared to kotg
ya
i was confused that i had to spam 1 button almost all fight
both arent hard
I just dont like Keeper Of the Grove.
i think the most fun build is 1min convoke
no way you just said that
Don't play it then
still not used convoke
play whichever you like most
you ll make it work if you re good
real (false)
Why do so many people play weaver on HC Vorasius? Thought Rattle should be better on ST?
they like to feel something mabey
or they have a filthy pad mindset and think they make their log on those wall adds
cringe
adds do need to die fwiw
When is roughly the breakpoint for weaver to be better? Are these 3 add spawns enough already?
its not much better if at all unless u loot funny trinket
ok guess the breakpoint is that close then
is it called log over to mage?
yes
i seem to have no hands on my mage alt so invalid
what trinket
which one do we think
no idea tbh
puzzelbox
as a boomie?
yes
wtf
u chudling
is it better then vaelgors
evil dictator from warcraftlogs will invalidate ur logs
if u rank1 with double on use
in 2026
is it xeph
yea u can stop simming double on use mate
link it
i cant its got the tech
i cant im a failure
also if we spawn 5% dmg
we getting nerfed
or ur getting nerfed im a mage
cop
its psudo pooling
while wasting as few eclipses as possible
which is just better
chicken propiganda

btw how does blizzo think this comparison is fine:
Two charges of ice cold, two charges of frost barrier
Which shields you for more than half your hp bar atm btw
Mirrors, alter, invis
Vs
One barkskin
?
what
I ran the math and that's fine
mirror and invis arent defensives
they have no dr
to be clear
and boss abilities that kill u they dont matter
i fucking hate boomkins
wtf
mages are squishy af now

copege
i was able to survive everything on my mage with the nattiest healing in hc split 1
and u couldnt on boomie?
hc split 2 healing was better and my boomkin survived too but couldnt have saved as much
i mean its heroic so
like, every time panicking healers scream DEFENSIVES i have like 3 ready on mage 😄
there is no shot healers are screaming atm for defenisves in heroic
maybe cosmos idk
raid is quite spicy if u dont do mechanics properlöy
lmfao I love the "use defensive here" 25s later "use defensives here"
the single boss raid boss fucks for 0
secret sorry
yo chancel whats the best frost mage written guide?
no idea i read apls not guides
thats 12.0 not 12.01
oh does that make a difference?
no apex so assume it does
mage disc says no its not surpoorted
oh prob
Genuinely I don’t know how to live cosmos as windwalker monk they might have the shitiest defensives I’ve ever seen
heres tech
start crying so hard u get healer externals
Touch of karma it’s only slightly better than bear form and fort brew is worse than barkskin with double its cooldown
link log
It’s so hard to live p2 when there is like 20 damage events
we tank 2 puddle ticks with shield and sting 🥀
I was also vibing. That raid was my first time playing boomy since xpac dropped. Outside of randomly trying it in a delve and going back bear swiftly. I trolled half the bosses.
nah, I'm ramping
not u
chicken is also ramping
cant bro too much to micro
with pings
too op
ppl learn to echolocate the pings
any real player has pings disabled
Hello, maybe some body has already answered that but for trinkets Wowhead advise Vaelgor and Locus Walker, Icy veins Vaelgor and Gaze of the Alnseer, Liquid Armory Vaelgor and Soulcatcher charms (from maisara) for ST and Gaze or Lura's trinket (equivalent to gaze) for Multitarget
Can't make my mind as for 2nd "bis" trinket x)
just put them all in a sim and pick one
I have little talent to sim this kind of things ^^
I can put my Simc and see what would be my biggest buff but i dont know how to sim effectively between "optimal" pieces of stuff ^^
just go topgear add all the trinkets select all and go
dont have to overcomplicate it
ok
your stat weights change every piece of gear you equip
whats ur point
alternatively
you can just go to wclogs
and pick the trinkets people are playing
Yeah so you run top gear whenever you get new gear
stat weights 
My droptimizer really loves the algeth'ar healing trinket 
Do we even have any passives that proc it anymore?
supposedly it just procs from our spells
i looked up an old conversation about it and gas just said most of our spells proc it
oh wrong trinket
But tooltips lie so
yea its with the thorns embellishment from dragonflight
idk i looked spelldata and it really just looks like healing would proc it
is the ysera self healing still a thing
didnt we have something like that at some point
that hasnt been a thing since like shadowlands 
💀
This trinket needs to get nerfed or the entire raid will be using it
if you can heal you equip it
whats wrong with that?
Only if it actually procs off things
u cant do that
like its a 80% uptime on 400 mastery
It's only 1 per target right?
smh, fun detected
yea
its worth 15% damage for multiple classes
how is it
80% uptime
please explain
It just procs a lot
new apl looking good
Based on simc
it procs an insane amount
based on dn its not 80% uptime
pfft
chicken about to go nuclear
how can achieve 80%?
95.705 RPPM: emerald_coachs_whistle base=1.000 coeff=1.000 last_trig=94.394 last_proc=95.705 scales=0 blp=enabled chance=2.80827%
95.705 Dsune attempts to proc emerald_coachs_whistle type=equip source=item driver=383798 trigger=383798 proc_chance=101% rppm=1 on wrath: 1
95.705 Player 'Dsune' gains Buff 'time_to_shine' (383799) (stacks=1) (value=-2.225074e-308, time_duration_multiplier=1)
our boomy said it was 80%
ye our boomy has pi and trinket
first mistake
did u check the log
If you add together the 2 buffs it's almost 50% 
show the log of boomie having 80% uptime
you never have both right
he is generally right why would i check the log

cause he is clearly lying to you
they override each other
gurt said
stupid chyckens
it stops other from proccing
ur stupid for falling for it
arent u feeling a little dumb now

amogus
what happens to your procrate in that case

lie buzzer going off..
No Acess
Wdym both btw?
yes
🥀
you buff each other
but it dosnt do anything
or
you refresh
or you dont proc while having
You don't buff eachother
lil gup
The person with the trinket buffs the other guy, the other guy can't buff the trinket guy
is that so
lil gup
That's the purpose of this channel....

2 different situations, but I understand you struggle with reading
It's okay
Wow you're blasting
lil gup

Is there a specific haste breakpoint for balance? Like a haste-value I should aim for besides simming
No, sims will take stats into account

Ok
lil gup
more like big gup
257?
thats nothing lmao
even i would have more ilvl if i played
ur a massive slacker
ok but
not a single sune on that picture..
lil gup
thinking we're only guild that splits
uur not
theres a lot more little doggies like you
bound tightly by raidleader leash
and u bark and do splits at his command
@vale pebble why dont u do splits
bro acting like splits are the worst thing in the world
doesn't like playing the game
😭
cuz we are too good for them
what split mode leads to thhis?
idk we do 4 splits
i get 0 loot
life goes on
hey at least I'm being honest
Im not gonna cry about someone else doing splits
actually i got 2p
like someone
of course
ill be vocal and call people bad
need little splits so you can kill ur bosses
cause youre not good enough otherwise
i got the normal tier chest and then hero one dropped and had to go to a trial 
also
splits arent the worst thing in the world
but im not allowed to say what it is either
It's kind of whatever
another doggy on his leash
especially with just a heroic week
iqni u so toxic today
so do i!
i fucking hate germans
yes, but now
imagine when you just started
when life was good, and suddenly
work
true actually i think my toxicity increased by like 50% in the first couple weeks of getting a job

what is free time
u mean those 20 minutes of taking a shit between work and gaming work (m0, delves and splits)
im now slaving my little wage cage
I only have 4 hours per evening to actually game?
just waiting for one of the world leaders to snap
wait a minute...
this but i get off and dont even feel like playing

yea thats real
got those 4 hours and spending them on playing a game just seems like wasting em
main reason why im not playing wow
is this the midlife crisis discord?
mmore like quarter life crisis but ye
no im 25
wanna join in?
or do you have balance druid questions that need answering cause they take prio over irl
(which is insane btw)
i'm licensed question answerer
I'm old enough to be out the other side. You wrap around in the end "4 hours to waste just playing games, it's my lucky day!"
oh yeah, I'm already at that point
for at least the last 2 years
any day we get to game is a good one..
but how can u still play wow then where u feel like theres always more hours you could/should put in
i dont think im gonna play next tier
to do what though? Ain't nobody going to thank me for it. but my mental health will thank me for taking a few hours to relax with the lads
exactly
i had to skip this poe league
and it hurts
after a week of trying to fit work, wow release and poe 1 league i was in act 6 of the campaign
just didnt make sense

and yea the only plus point is the raiding with the lads thing
can just be a backup raider tho
for sure
fr
that would be constantine the great
he aint that great
not so great afterall
wasnt that guy like
the worst person in the universe
didnt he like
feed people molten metal
idk only constantine i know is the DC comics guy
what...
keanu reeves played him
and if I say Caesar?!
the salad?
😭
i love salad
no that's a boss in this new raid
LMFAO
scrolllling
good thing I don't have a colored name anymore
the pressure of needing to perform
cause you are writing a guide
or have a role in a class discord
white name with mod chat
nick can i have regular
Im a normie
erm
you've been disapproved

modchat is a myth anyway
if you want chat to be more active
just invite arctic and chancel
the yap never stops
idk who these ppl are
fair enough
@lucid olive can you make it so boomy is less shit
i hate foe
why do we play foe
fuck foe
also why do we always have to play around cds so much its so bad when shit does not align
No.
thats their version of skill expression
we already inviting anything that breathes these days
ok but
iykyk
but devs tap out in lfr
new class innit
and do more damage?
hero class
ok but you can apply that to literally any ranged
frost mage
dead ass boring
3 button spec
no cds
devourer is so egregious actually
yes
there are no decisions
sure there is
can you put the chart on an a3 piece of paper
what to play
devourer was already gapping other specs then they gave it an unreasonably large buff to keep up with havoc
wdf is a3
just leapfrogging the class until they both do 12.1 numbers damage
totally fair
a1 or go home
can we just get venthyr back
is a1 big or small
fuck eclipse
what nerf
only arms mention i've seen was the 12.0.5 notes
i thought they deleted arms
its big mate
and thats not tuning
whats that supposed to mean
im like as regular as it gets
i post daily even
regularly timed out
to our displeasure
ive only been timed out once!
why be regular when you can be exceptional
once? casual
do i have to chekc that
sure
i think it was once that was warranted
others were a joke
like the gambling timeouts a while back
even then i was only silenced for speaking the truth!
tyranny manifest
also yes you dont have any on record afaik
also we're at that point of the internet where people rather DM you to flame instead of being toxic in here
i dont do that
like that guy thyme banned the other day
im not ashamed












