balance

[lucid olive]

holy 2 ap

[glacial steeple]

Massive

[true viper]

I am disgusted at what rotation shenanigans I had to do yesterday

[maiden pasture]

What's the bug

[glacial steeple]

EC is easiest to play, most people prefer keeper since you don't stand there all day spamming starfire and don't lose your entire damage on movement

Also Compendium in pinned posts have builds if you're in a rush for something

[lucid olive]

when the 4pc aoe splash counted to orbit breaker

changing it to 100ms icd fixes that

[glacial steeple]

Sounds like they murdered it

[lucid olive]

the wowhead datamine post had the aura buff and stuff from this week too so the icd thing was just part of that

[craggy sonnet]

glad that only ever happens in the opener

[lucid olive]

they should let us get ap from treant moonfires again

[glacial steeple]

Sounds like I get to unbind FoE then

[lucid olive]

you can play 1m convoke over foe in st if you want

[glacial steeple]

The compendium has both builds with FoE, I was just going off those

[lucid olive]

ye

if you do a talent sim theyre basically neutral

thats with rattle though

with starweaver incarn is better generally

[glacial steeple]

With Starweaver you prefer FoE, and the one under it just for it to be up more often for chaining chances?

[drifting nova]

do raid, get no loot, why bother do raid

[true viper]

Why is it so important to spend apex talent before using cds

[lucid olive]

who knows

[glacial steeple]

Everyone else gets loot so you get it all that next raid

[true viper]

Is it that good

[lucid olive]

you can do whatever depending on the timer too

[drifting nova]

only did 4bosses tho so I guess, didnt even win the double boots from 1st boss

[lucid olive]

saw canexx just ripping the solar bolt into foe treants ca

[glacial steeple]

Good thing there is a bunch more

[true viper]

I went in yesterday no prep and I was getting annoyed

[drifting nova]

[glacial steeple]

I'm hoping for the trinket off twin dragons

[drifting nova]

is ok, that fight gets nerfed next week

[lucid olive]

i got that trinket on heroic in my split

[glacial steeple]

How nasty is it?

[drifting nova]

beat the other chicken once

[lucid olive]

wont swap it out until i get it on mythic

[drifting nova]

I have had enough trinkets to open a trinket shop, wheres my BOOTS

[lucid olive]

craft them

do preys and get veteran crests

send 246 craft

[drifting nova]

you dont know who I am

I do not craft

[lucid olive]

ez ilvl

[drifting nova]

I do not do that

[lucid olive]

yeah that involves interacting outside of this discord

i get it

[drifting nova]

crafting bad

saw someone with a crafted 259 2h earlier

[lucid olive]

probably me

[drifting nova]

it was a chicken

and he did do 150k burst

and he did steal my lfr tier gloves

(I rolled a 3)

[lucid olive]

get mad about that

[glacial steeple]

Should find him and fight him in glorious chicken combat

[drifting nova]

I'd know his name but the shitty alpha damage tracker

doesnt track shit once you logoff

[glacial steeple]

That's why you have to run logs for LFR

[fiery veldt]

i like pie

[crystal wren]

in raid, should i use my wraps of cosmic before or after my opening rotation?

[lofty depot]

probably the before the foe

[crystal wren]

so prolly moonfire/sunfire, wraps, FoN, CE, starsurge 1-2, then convoke?

[drifting nova]

do you just die doing nightmare prey as chicken or

[split musk]

does this still work? im tryna pull as the swap happens but he still uses the tank buster

[maiden pasture]

nt really

bear is for sure cozier

if u want easy mode just do the farming as bear, swap to chicken for boss

gg

[drifting nova]

oh..just done it all bear

forgot about swapping

[glacial steeple]

lol

[split musk]

i didnt have any issues doing nightmare prey as moonkin, pretty easy to just kite them

just grab traps in the prey area and then go boss

[maiden pasture]

Fine aswell, boss just dies in like 5s as chicken

[snow elm]

whats the chances boomies getting a buff this weekend with current performance

[glacial steeple]

We are putting belt to ass brother

[normal pilot]

i wouldn't bet on it balance is performing just fine

maybe you get lucky

[glacial steeple]

Everyday I get to talk to you guys in discord I'm lucky ❤️

[snow elm]

unholy is performing better but they are getting a buff

[normal pilot]

ok so they got lucky sometimes that happens

maybe you'll getl ucky too

[lofty depot]

were not dks when were down giga

[normal pilot]

i think so ya

balance is what, below avg at this point?

it's doing perfectly fine right now for wow standards

[snow elm]

needs to be an expac where we go to elune's world so balance druids can be at the forefront and be the hero class

[dense steeple]

decent prog kill parse i guess?

[past knot]

doing the hard work

[snow elm]

is elune also a mechanical robot like the death realm fairy queen

[cosmic pollen]

Can i Ask something? Why is there an emphasis in wowhead to use inca "off gcd"? Can't i just macro trees->inca?

[drifting nova]

idk if was just me but the zulaman boss died in like 5s flat, idk if its bugged

[maiden pasture]

ur just him

[drifting nova]

was weird, 150k on both chars

eww, getting to seat is so cringe

[quiet drift]

You can

But the Global cooldown from Trees will just be dead since you cant be pressing another button

So its better to just wait a second so you can press Incarn and Starsurge at the same time

[dense steeple]

cotti did you choose your talent build for dragons based on having tier

like would you have done something different if you didnt have 2pc

[quiet drift]

sims

I mean what talent are u asking abt

Dont think anything changes

0p to 2

[dense steeple]

nothing in particular i just copied you cause youre

but i wanted to make sure

[quiet drift]

I think the build is fine but take Kindling

Meteor shower was horrible

[dense steeple]

noted

[quiet drift]

Dropped dots so many times cuz base Ui isnt showing debuffs

( :

[drifting nova]

is there an ilvl inspect addon yet

[gentle patio]

cause you can't fly or you forgot timeways is a thing?

[vital hound]

?

[drifting nova]

yes

[vital hound]

what is it you mean

[drifting nova]

no, to replace details

which had it

[vital hound]

like this?

[drifting nova]

suer

[fiery veldt]

can i have 2 arcano weave linings at once?

[vital hound]

BetterCharacterPanel

[dense steeple]

as long as you dont have another embel

[fiery veldt]

k ty

[drifting nova]

the biggest downside to bricking details tbh

[dense steeple]

?

[vital hound]

i didnt even know details did that

[drifting nova]

yeah it had ilvl, food, flasks

yknow the utility shit

that blizzard hates

[vital hound]

true

[drifting nova]

I now officially hate the luara fight in seat

[surreal heron]

i do not get the timings on saladbar whatsoever

i 97 parse on first boss and can't crack 40 on salad

[dense steeple]

why its easy?

[drifting nova]

camera pov and maybe we messed up the charms idk

[dense steeple]

you deadass just perma starfall except ss proc?

[stoic fog]

i'm doing 15K dps in raid.... less than tank 🙁

on first boss with is major AOE too

[vital hound]

more buffs ig

[quiet drift]

yes

[dense steeple]

skrill issue

sik

[quiet drift]

chicken was saying its worse

idk

[dense steeple]

wait were you selling heroic

[drifting nova]

actually never getting rid of my shit tier chest wtf

[glacial steeple]

Sounds like Catalyst time

[drifting nova]

I CANT

[glacial steeple]

226? Is this still pre-release?

[drifting nova]

I EVEN MADE IT MYSELF

LW STYLE

[glacial steeple]

Brother you gonna have to buy a heroic carry in a leather stack

[drifting nova]

but I've got every trinket under the sun from dungeons

[dense steeple]

craft fuckin chest

what

[glacial steeple]

naw, don't do that. Wait for the drops

Crafting is for nerds

[dense steeple]

80 vet crests or whatever

[drifting nova]

oh god no

it was adventurer last week

or 1st week idk

I forgot

[glacial steeple]

if you wanna use adventurer you can too

Just don't see it being a big upgrade

[drifting nova]

wdym

it IS adventurer crafted

it is the upgrade

[surreal folio]

hello i saw a few clips of a high movement proc based boomkin build is that right? looking to level one

i cant find the clips anymore bc twitter algo made them disappear

[dense steeple]

wtf does that even mean

[glacial steeple]

Sounds like starweaver

[drifting nova]

cosmos starweaver prob

[glacial steeple]

Throw convoke in there, you can probably move around forever

[surreal folio]

that sounds probably right

[glacial steeple]

Do we think maybe meteorites on dragons?

Over spirit of Goldrinn?

[frail sonnet]

someone knows a good boss frame? the blizzard one isnt showing dots

[stoic fog]

i hate this stupid azz class so much

wish this spec dies into oblivion

so overly complicated for no reason

[dense steeple]

if you think boomkin is complicated you have different problems

[keen juniper]

does anyone have anything to remind you of moonkin form? im dumb someone save me

[glacial steeple]

I bound it 1-6 on my regular form

[keen juniper]

yeah just cant always tell with stars on

[glacial steeple]

Yeah so when I try to moonfire it just turns me into stars

[keen juniper]

might be the move

[drifting nova]

eyes

[glacial steeple]

Could do !Moonkin Form on all your spells

[lofty depot]

u could play fluid form and then not worry about it

[dreamy cove]

does anyone have this season's leather loot pool spreadsheet

[lofty depot]

whats

[dreamy cove]

what drops where in raid/m+

[exotic perch]

wowhead and dungeon journal do

[pseudo merlin]

stop using glyph of stars

its lame

[trail heath]

We getting buffed again tomorrow?

[tulip mica]

its not lame, FOR I AM MOON COW

[pseudo merlin]

fake moonkin

[tulip mica]

*mooncow

[bleak rivet]

Any one managed to kill null as balance, the cast to kick is actually faster than my kicks CD so I feel I cant get them?

[rough marten]

double wrap enjoyer

[drifting nova]

pretender, you are a pretender

[spice forum]

🤤

[tulip mica]

you're just jealous of my glittering horns

[drifting nova]

you cant even see your glittering horns

the real question is when firebird gets armoured chicken

who am I kidding, blizzard already forgotti

[pale urchin]

would I be throwing if i crafted a belt and wrists?

[dreamy locust]

You are free to craft non-spark embellish pieces

As long as you got the skillz to do like 10s next week

[drifting nova]

[dreamy locust]

Nothing sus about it

[lofty depot]

sus not crafting weapon

[dreamy locust]

You craft weapon with sparks, but can craft

embellys without spark

[merry ibex]

I am forced to realize that I really hate this eclipse system, I think I honestly hated the TWW edition less, other changes for this class were fine but they need to drop this eclipse trash

it just isnt helping, give BFA empowerments back or something else

but god almighty I despire eclipse

We dont need shitty maintenance buff button, give us an interesting passive effect to play around and just throw eclipse away

[quiet drift]

Just drop the system entirely

Its just been shoved in as class fantasy jank

none have been good

[jaunty blaze]

It's when the devs don't play their own game they keep stuff like that

[lofty depot]

u mean like empowerments

[delicate perch]

Like what

[normal pilot]

like nothing

less things to think about = better

[pseudo merlin]

That's one of the takes of all time

We don't need a button

We need more interesting gameplay like passives that I have no control over!

[delicate perch]

Make moonkin form 100% more spell damage and shoot 5 surges a second as long as you don’t press any damaging spells

[pseudo merlin]

Stuff like "50% chance to do 157 arcane damage when you deal damage"

[normal pilot]

less work + big dam is better

interesting is a cope anyways

[delicate perch]

Interesting in wow when you only think about mechanics most of the time regardless

[pseudo merlin]

If you could remove eclipses entirely, would you do it Gas?

[delicate perch]

[normal pilot]

i would give you eclipse power that you build when you cast a cat ability or bear ability

[pseudo merlin]

holy based

[normal pilot]

once you get 100 eclipse power then you can go into moonkin form adn spend it

[merry ibex]

Pulsar was a passive that was fun to play around, a button you press a mindless buff every so often isnt exactly a big skill check

[delicate perch]

Add tree in there for fun

[merry ibex]

a passive that actually rewards good play is a better skill showcase

[normal pilot]

pulsars was fun because it did damage

[pseudo merlin]

(I unironically think that would be very cool)

Like what's the feral dps/feral tank hero talent

that makes you swap cat and bare

add eclipse power onto that

and we're blasting

[delicate perch]

Didn’t they kill that part

[pseudo merlin]

yeah they did

fucking idiots

[delicate perch]

Bear no longer cat

[pseudo merlin]

it was so fun

[delicate perch]

Ya I liked it

[pseudo merlin]

but the people who play this game are fucking monkeys

actually that's not true

[delicate perch]

Just going cat and blasting

[pseudo merlin]

you can train monkeys to be good at things

[normal pilot]

eh it's a casual game

ppl aren't playing this to work hard

just wanna blast some stuff do dam

[pseudo merlin]

so play ret

[delicate perch]

I did see a lot of bears overstay cat form

[pseudo merlin]

leave my spec alone

[delicate perch]

And then just die

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

[delicate perch]

[pseudo merlin]

you legit like

press 2 globals

and go back

??????

[delicate perch]

I mean most casuals press 1 global every 3 seconds so

Kinda out of their reach

[normal pilot]

just play EC, don't have to deal with juggling 3x/4x cds

chill and shoot some lazers

[pseudo merlin]

I fucking love this new gastank arc

[normal pilot]

kotg is a scam. they got you to accept having a CD on GCD which is dogshit that players revolted against in BFA but they fooled you into accepting it.

[tardy hare]

mythic crests drop from +9 and above?

wowhead guide says +9 and friend says +7

oh I can just check it in-game...

yeah mythic crests are from +9

[amber mesa]

So is balance back with the new bufs?

[harsh herald]

Balance is good times in raid so far

[amber mesa]

Mythic nay?

[harsh herald]

I'll let you know on Tuesday

[amber mesa]

Why Tuesday 😅

[high finch]

can someone share the m+ / m0 talents?

[amber mesa]

Hows it performing in mythic 0 currently

[harsh herald]

Things don't live long enough

So it's an awful judge

[delicate perch]

[fiery plinth]

I cant get tettles cdm profile to work on the wowhead site. anyone have something similar or the same that can provide a different import link?

[dreamy locust]

If you are playing a fight in raid without nature's balance

Is it still better/important to spend your 3 ascendant spenders?

before CA

[wet kraken]

Playing EC is there a haste cap? Or is it just the softcap for the stat in general?

[normal pilot]

there is no cap, soft or not

[wet kraken]

Thanks!

[royal zenith]

No cap? I will stack infinite haste!!

[jaunty blaze]

Stop the cap

[lone turret]

depends on lifetime of mobs and how much get pulled , I had yesterday a 300k peak pull on a trash group so with cds we make pewpew

[delicate perch]

also no soft cap, 0 haste login

[dreamy locust]

Man, i played feral last tier for raid, and swapped after prog

Playing EC with like barely any haste felt so shit

Alt + f4 gameplay

[delicate perch]

your fault for playing the game after prog last season

[pseudo kernel]

i recall a good site where you could see what boss abilities people ramp to but i cant remember the name, can somebody help me with that?

[vital swift]

Hi guys
Do we spend our procs of Starweaver's Warp, touch of cosmos, starweaver instantly and not waiting for damage window?

[delicate perch]

is this a healer question we are all too chad to understand

[jaunty blaze]

If you hold them you can't get new ones

Losing damage

[delicate perch]

kinda sounds like healer https://lorrgs.io/ though

[pseudo kernel]

oh shit... who selected balance.

it was indeed loorgs. sorry owls, continue as is.

[delicate perch]

🫵

[pseudo kernel]

(and thanks for link)

DONT LOOK AT ME IM LEAVING NOW

[round field]

[delicate perch]

point and laugh

[brisk flint]

is convoke viable?

[harsh herald]

For what content?

[brisk flint]

m+ and raid

[harsh herald]

It's great single target

[royal zenith]

sure

everything is viable

[harsh herald]

Loses value the more targets there are though

So mass AOE m+ would be bad convoke

[brisk flint]

and whats the best hero talent for m

m+

[harsh herald]

They both work

Which is great because a one size fit all build is boring

[round field]

soul harvester

[harsh herald]

Dungeon with mostly stacked aoe? Go EC

[delicate perch]

[round field]

uhm

arent most dungeons stacked aoe

[tribal tapir]

just started lvling my druid, but im kinda confused. how do i know what eclipse im in? there is no visual effect for it, no buff, no skill thats flashing up to indicate it

[livid jay]

fml i hate this frequent redotting in single target

[royal zenith]

There is, if you press the eclipse button

and have spell effect opacity not 0%

[round field]

need to grab an addon for it

but there is a buff

[delicate perch]

nah just pull 20 packs of casters and kick none of them

spread aoe

[round field]

trueeeeeeee

[tribal tapir]

any addon to recommend for it?

[gaunt ruin]

Eclipse is now a spell that you should press. If you cast one wrath and press eclipse it will start the solar, if you cast starfire and press eclipse it will start lunar

[round field]

uhm probably one of the cooldown managers

[tribal tapir]

oh, i see. i had no idea about me having to manually enter the eclipse now. been couple years since last i played boomie

[gaunt ruin]

It’s new for everyone. They added this in midnight.

[tribal tapir]

ah i see. thanks for the help!

[gaunt ruin]

Check the guides in pinned section. It will help you a bit to understand how to use it

[bronze topaz]

so how do you even do the ?? boss as boomie

he casts the one shot interupptable case before my beam is back up

[harsh herald]

it's geared towards you having the talent that shortens your cd

[bronze topaz]

nope, its 35 sec between casts and beam with this is 45

[distant stream]

Hey, what do you prefer to craft now and if yes what to craft this week or wait for myth crest craft?

[slender island]

check out twintops resource bar too, it's great for boomy and tells you which eclipse you're in by coloring the bar and putting a timer on it

[round field]

press n spec guardian

profit

[livid jay]

just spec resto

put some hots on valeera

semi afk 20 minutes

done

the short duration of sunfire really is fucking annoying

how do you guys do it

sometimes when i exit eclipse its running out and i have to refresh it

[sudden flame]

I just watched tettles vod and it about 50 seconds between each cast

[livid jay]

then i want to pool a bit so i got ap for the 3 surges at start of eclipse

[bronze topaz]

idk what to tell you gang, he's casting it 35 sec apart

[livid jay]

but by the time im done pooling sunfire already needs to be refreshed to not fall of in that upcoming eclipse

am i really pressing sunfire twice between eclipses

that feels awful and wrong

[stable frigate]

I tried first day a bit the only time I couldn't interrupt boss was if i accidently interrupted add casting shadow bolt.
I coulnd't get past the wave of adds casting poison spit. The dmg was just too high with the boss swings, so I gave up.

[sudden flame]

The poison splitting adds are definitely the hardest part of the fight ye

[stable frigate]

Cant see any balance druid killing it on YT. Has anyone here done it ? I remember asking the same question in TWW first nemesis and everyone just said "go bear", felt like I was the first balance druid on discord to do it as boomie lol

[harsh herald]

I went and tried to check it for you and ended up throwing a few attempts at it getting pretty close, haha

I'm able to interrupt each one

If I do a late interrupt

[stable frigate]

Did you get past the poison adds?

[sudden flame]

tettles has done it

[harsh herald]

Yeah I watched Zorthas' kill yesterday

[stable frigate]

I never found the interrupt to even being close to an issue if you only interrupt the boss

[harsh herald]

And tried what he was doing which was just kiting around until cd's came back up

Since there isn't an enrange

I just trees and blew them up

I think I'd get it after a handful more attempts, but I'm too tired after raiding today

[stable frigate]

Cant find on youtube is there a vod link?

[sudden flame]

https://www.youtube.com/live/2yc3LOlzzzE?si=GxEqW0NCN9z0AayM&t=3184

should start at the pull he kills it on

[bronze topaz]

this is right after me interrupting him

[soft dragon]

Hey, even in aoe u wrath outside eclipse or?

[sudden flame]

boss is very exciting as a dps

[royal zenith]

the fack..

[soft dragon]

Also why is compendium saying to surge 2t but top hc log on dragons is starfalling

[dreamy locust]

You aren't readin properly

[delicate perch]

lets put on our thinking cap why someone would do aoe instead of damage to one boss when they enrage when not close in health

[pallid bay]

Also why is compendium saying to surge 2t but top hc log on dragons is starfalling

[delicate perch]

(also ignore the 99999 adds that spawn)

[high finch]

what race is highest dps for boomkin??

[delicate perch]

Also why is compendium saying to surge 2t but top hc log on dragons is starfalling

[pallid bay]

compendium bad??

[jaunty blaze]

Also why is compendium saying to surge 2t but top hc log on dragons is starfalling

Don't trust big guide

[royal zenith]

top logs are starfalling on every boss

😭

was doing my round of log analysis last night after raid

[delicate perch]

literally confirmed bad???

[royal zenith]

it's looking grim

[delicate perch]

never trusting a guide again.

[bronze topaz]

tbf every boss has adds so makes sense

[pallid bay]

im playing 1min convoke

y'all cant stop me

[royal zenith]

I will also play 1min convoke

[royal zenith]

it doesnt

[delicate perch]

I will only play 1m convoke on the boss that bugs it out

[royal zenith]

boss needs to die, and important adds

[pallid bay]

perfection

[royal zenith]

these fights have tons of useless fodder adds

[delicate perch]

those adds have to die

[royal zenith]

for sure your starfall will carry that

[bronze topaz]

you think top logs are starfalling ethically?

[delicate perch]

yes

they are protecting their team mates

@iron chasm will confirm this

[royal zenith]

but doesn't matter anyway, it's nm/hc

[harsh herald]

I did heroic dreamrift today and RL told us all to single target except like 3 mages blasting the little adds

I now have a gray parse

[lusty echo]

Can someone tell me clearly when we need to switch to the AOE rotation during boss fights of the raid ? Whenever there is 1 add ? Or only when they are packed ? Or 3 targets ?

[harsh herald]

And won't get invited to groups next week

Haha

[royal zenith]

factual @ jtam

[pallid bay]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bahaha-lol

[royal zenith]

starfire -> stacked AOE
starfall -> 2T+ stacked & spread

basically

[delicate perch]

I've already blacklisted you

[royal zenith]

is starfire worth it on 2t @pallid bay

cause I dunno and I cba reading compendium!!

[pallid bay]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bahaha-lol

[dreamy locust]

No, its 4+

[pallid bay]

you confuse me with someone who has looked at these things

[dreamy locust]

IIRC

[royal zenith]

smh

maybe Ill have to ask cotti..

[dreamy locust]

1-3 wrath, 4+ starfire

starfall 2+

[royal zenith]

he will for sure have looked at that

[jaunty blaze]

Vibe it

[royal zenith]

vibe this

[pallid bay]

riddle me this

[jaunty blaze]

Vibe dn

[pallid bay]

somehow an instant starfire is better in CA

[jaunty blaze]

[pallid bay]

but casting starfire on 2T is not good

[harsh herald]

More AP!

[pallid bay]

3T

we need 4T!

[royal zenith]

lmao

this spec

[dreamy locust]

Yeah I think dmg/ap of instant starfire just better than wrath when instant

Maffs

[royal zenith]

cooked

[pallid bay]

riddle the math

[dreamy locust]

No, meet me at room 40

[novel viper]

hey guys learning boomkin so in raid whats the point of running convoke vs incarn i know for more burst compared to uptime but looking at logs everything is so split im guessing just a perefernce thing at that poitn?

[pallid bay]

dosnt starfire gen more AP than wrath

[dreamy locust]

10 vs 8 baseline

Idk what modifiers they all got

[harsh herald]

And no travel time

Min max that shit

[jaunty blaze]

It has slightly higher cosmos proc chance too

But I think gamz said you wrath now after the buff

Or arctic idk

[soft dragon]

Don't see ur point ure allowed to target swap surge no

[dreamy locust]

https://i.imgur.com/7yknssO.png

This is.... 3 target sim?

Casts lunar eclipse after cds, uses 1 starfire then starts wrathing?

[raw python]

Have somebody switched to feral for this season/expansion? I really hate the change blizzard did to eclipses but i am not sure if its worth learning feral instead. 😄

[dreamy locust]

[jaunty blaze]

Go ask them then

[sudden flame]

both specs are mid

so you can play what you want if you dont enjoy balance

[dreamy locust]

I doubt its changed, feral just gets boring cause 95% of the time

The specs job in raid is a ST bot

[raw python]

Thanks man!

[dreamy locust]

Last season keys were fun if you liked big cd tank dmg outside cds

[dawn surge]

@round field this m+er just did some solid heroic PUG parses if you ask me

alt boomy gaming

247 ilvl with dogshit trinkets and 0 pc

we take those

[jaunty blaze]

[sudden flame]

m+ers is only good on the aoe fights 🥀

need to learn how to do some ST gup

[dawn surge]

yeah i was running convoke on saladbar and im not used to that

[royal zenith]

pressing starfall considered good skill 🥀

[dawn surge]

i griefed the cd timings a bit and didnt get them on a couple of the beams

ofc we killed that pull

also tho i killed saladbar first of those 4

for some reason

ill get a better parse next time

</3

[dawn surge]

ay it took a lot of effort to pad adds on vaelgar btw we had a devoker and a 4 pc frost mage blasting plus 2 ret pallies

[royal zenith]

[dawn surge]

also that kill i got the fear overlapped with the suck and adds

[round field]

ofc the mpluser tries to pad

[indigo barn]

Next week there will be a lot more parses, right now later hc bosses are just filled by split runners that had done the fight 10 times

[royal zenith]

also the argument of "I only have shit gear" is not really one for first weeks of the tier

[dawn surge]

so i probly wouldve gotten like a 98 or so if that didnt happen

[royal zenith]

cause everybody has shit gear

[delicate perch]

lmfao yea you right actually, you do that and lemme know how it goes

[dawn surge]

if u look at most of the top parses tho theyre either guild runs filled with gamers or have op trinkets alrdy

[royal zenith]

that's top parses ye

[dawn surge]

let me have my fun on my alt in pugs

why u gotta bring me down

https://tenor.com/view/fml-jump-off-bridge-gif-14754841

[royal zenith]

this is still top 25

hey Im just being realistic

so you become even better

dont gaslight yourself!!

[sudden flame]

i've heard the crucible is an op trinket

so it doesnt count

[dawn surge]

ill get better dont u worry i just gotta cope about gear because ive gotten literally 0 items from heroic andjust watched a single dk get both the giga mastery ring AND tier off vanguard

while having 3 other heroic pieces alrdy

and u know what he parsed

14

a 14

at 256 ilvl

[soft dragon]

im not saying its better but if your point is they need to be the same hp therefore u starfall it just doesnt make sense yea

[pallid bay]

starfire gens 8 baseline + 2 from wild surges * 1.4 from SotF * 1.1 from dryads dance
(8+2)*1.4*1.1=15.4
2.25s cast
1.015 SP mod

wrath has 6 baseline + 2 from wildsurges * 1.4 from SotF * 1.1 from dryads dance * 1.1 from dryads dance
(6+2)*1.4*1.1*1.1=13.552
1.5s cast
1.331 SP mod

wrath
9.0346 AP per second
0.8873 SP per second

starfire
6.8444 AP per second
0.45111 SP per second
0.31577 SP per additional target
so 2 targets = 0.76688
3 targets = 1.08265

now perhaps that 2.1902 AP per execution time diff makes up for the damage on 3 targets since our spenders are the things doing actual damage
another thing to consider for fillers are ofc the eclipses, solar increases damage of dream surge so whenever you have treants up you'd have to account for the damage increase to those

[round field]

what

[pallid bay]

yes

[pallid bay]

and ofc if you play mushrooms they are also nature damage

[dawn surge]

i understood all of that for sure

[pallid bay]

well if you dont understand

perhaps seek out an elementary school

[dawn surge]

i got held back

unlucky

[pallid bay]

gg 5x

[royal zenith]

it's basic math

[dawn surge]

they only let me through bc i was annoying

[royal zenith]

value per cast

that's all

people need to learn how to think abstract again

[pallid bay]

now according to riddled math its prob correct to starfire on 4

[royal zenith]

smh

[dawn surge]

tbh i said that without even reading any of it as a meme

[livid jay]

what do i do here

[royal zenith]

you redesign your ui

[delicate perch]

have you done the fight or are you just yapping

[dawn surge]

pop ur trinket

[royal zenith]

cause that looks horrendous!!

[livid jay]

ui looks fine

[royal zenith]

you just wait till coolies are up wdym what do I do

[livid jay]

do i go eclipse to bridge to trees

or do i just wait

[royal zenith]

of course

eclipse is like 14 seconds

send it

quick maff it

[livid jay]

what do u think looks bad about the ui 😄

open to suggestions

[royal zenith]

nah im jk, it's fine 🥹

[livid jay]

gg

[pallid bay]

same

[royal zenith]

tons of saturation but that's probably just hdr things

cause screenshot

[livid jay]

yea

[pallid bay]

you prob just hold here tbh

you need to redot sunfire

can build some more AP

and you wont waste eclipse

[livid jay]

ya i would redot starfire and pool some ap and then its only like 6-7 seconds to trees

[dawn surge]

i think u should use ur trinket immediately outside of eclipse

get some dmg out

[pallid bay]

but then again you have pot coming up

so then its a question of how much of the fight is left

[dawn surge]

oh true you could use pot and trinket together instead

[royal zenith]

and if it alligns with adds..

[livid jay]

ya but if i wait for pot im wasting like 17 secs of convoke cd

[royal zenith]

so you can P A D

[pallid bay]

yeah but if you dont get another use during the fight that dosnt matter

[livid jay]

yea

[royal zenith]

told you

quick maffs

but you wouldn't listen..

[livid jay]

so much feelycraft 😄

[pallid bay]

so the answer is

[royal zenith]

opposite of feelycraft

[pallid bay]

it depends

[royal zenith]

what do you meannn

[pallid bay]

🤯

[livid jay]

can they increase sunfire dot time

[royal zenith]

moonfire > sunfire anyway

[sudden flame]

brother you already got the infinite sunfire when you starfall talent

lock in

[livid jay]

i sometimes have to renew it after getting out of eclipse, then build some ap and then have to renew it again before pressing eclipse so it doesnt run out in next eclipse

[royal zenith]

funny numbers on moonfire on paladin boss

[livid jay]

two sunfire between eclipses

cringe af

[pallid bay]

yeah sunfire is bit cringe atm

refresh -> now i can do damage -> refresh again -> more damage

[livid jay]

ya

refreshing that shit too much outside of pandemic

[jagged haven]

top logs on hc dreamrift not using all spec-talent points?

[livid jay]

its bugged

i think

[jagged haven]

ah

[livid jay]

its every boss

[dense moss]

how are the boomkins doing right now curious, feral main here. Roast if needed lol

[junior thicket]

Good

[sudden flame]

both are mid

[carmine acorn]

Boomkin looks better than it is due to fight designs on raid :p

[dawn surge]

btw @royal zenith

yeah im just the goat

[carmine acorn]

ahahahah

fooled me for a second

[round field]

even for dps logs

[dawn surge]

[round field]

thats pretty bad

step up

lock in

[dawn surge]

mb gang

[carmine acorn]

yesterday we needed an extra healer to do normal raid and i had to go into healer, which I havent even tried since like mid dragonflight, so it was "choose specialization" -> "get talents from wowhead" -> "pull raid", so i dont have logs.. boohoo

also turns out healing today is not the same as dragonflight

[royal zenith]

[dawn surge]

hotw wild growth healing op

[royal zenith]

am kind of a blaster..

[dawn surge]

i dont think most boomies even press that button once

[royal zenith]

I was playing shit in nm/hc so anything purple is decent atm

[livid jay]

do i look like a healer or what

[dawn surge]

kinda yeah

on my dragons kill i was hardcasting regrowth for like 15 gcds total bc a healer died and we had no bres for 1.5 mins

gg

[livid jay]

same lol

had to spend some time at dummies this morning

was not satisfied with raid

[carmine acorn]

I still have to pug dragons and alleria normal, and entire hc raid

which since i dont send champion crests might be difficult, dont know if a 250ilvl balance gets invites (since apparently everyone shares druid token)

[upper moon]

i feel dumb for asking but for EC am i just press starfire over wrath in every situation?

[harsh herald]

Yep, that's correct

[upper moon]

thank you so much, most stuff im watching is just covering grove gameplay

[round field]

thats cause ec is dookie

[harsh herald]

Yeah you don't see too many people going EC yet since it's too slow for m0

[round field]

loser talent tree

[harsh herald]

Only for the pally fight in raid

If you don't feel like play single button rotation, EC is there for you

[craggy sonnet]

Have you checked that ingame? Wondering if sotf and dryad are actually multiplicative.
Also wrath should be +0.6 from one of the dryads dance effects, I think?

[pallid bay]

i have not

all i've checked is that dryads dance adds 0.6 if you pick no AP talents

supposedly one of the effects is additive

[craggy sonnet]

At least for the 2nd part, that is also how simc interprets the spell data

Yeah

One is + 0.6

The other is * 1.1

[pallid bay]

yeah its 0.3 diff depending on how its calculated

[spice roost]

is fluid form a bad node to take still

[pallid bay]

in what sense

compared to what

in what situation

there's nothing bad about the talent in general

[spice roost]

in raid is it a useless node

[pallid bay]

it saves you a gcd when you need to shift

[spice roost]

oh ok

[bright yarrow]

is balance now more viable as meta? 😄

since patch

[jaunty blaze]

People really don't know what viable means

[ruby badger]

It's better than it was

[lusty echo]

If I crafted the staff, I can't get a second embelish right ?

[jaunty blaze]

You can

[lusty echo]

I don't understand how, I want to craft boots but I need sparks

[royal zenith]

then craft boots that dont require sparks

aka lower ilvl crests

[lusty echo]

Yeah but they don't come with the right embelishments

[royal zenith]

craft an alternative...

it's basically just a stop-gap

IF you need damage right now

[lusty echo]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=244768/queldorei-runners

[royal zenith]

if not you can also just chill and wait till you can craft with spark

it really depends on what you need right now

[pallid bay]

6 AP

Dryads dance
7.2 = (6+0.6)*1.1

Wild surges
8 = (6+2)

Wild surges + Dryads dance
9.5 = (6+2+0.6)*1.1

Wild surges + SotF
11.2 = (6+2)*1.4

Wild surges + Dryads dance + SOTF
13.3 = (6+2+0.6)*1.4*1.1```

[sudden flame]

Random numbers that i dont understand

[pallid bay]

[craggy sonnet]

Big

[vital swift]

do i get this right? if we are in incarn or CA we dump all our AP but when we are in eclipse or without it, we follow only this conditions? That way we only spend AP inside of double eclipse and treant windows?

[round field]

enter eclipse > shoot 3 surges

other than that you can go off vibes

[vital swift]

what about when im inside of incarn, dont i want to spend as much as i could?

[round field]

you can

[craggy sonnet]

and you do

(unless movement)

[vital swift]

it is so unusual to hold AP for me

[round field]

you dont have to hold ap

theres no benefit to it other than being able to use it for movement

also pooling for next eclipse but thats normal

its not much different to how the spec was played before

[vital swift]

can i ask you to check my log?

[round field]

i personally cba cause im at work but you can send it and someone will probs take a peep at it

[vital swift]

i dont know why am i so bad, my thought was that i spend my ap wrong

[round field]

I mean 94 isnt that bad

I expected a grey log lmao

just a glance

stop canceling so many casts

holy

[sonic surge]

what the heck bro has a 94 with that many cancelled casts

[round field]

what are we doing

[vital swift]

sorry wrong link

gimme a sec

it was normal

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KJdf83B7hVLRcnyC?fight=49

here

i thouht i sent you my heroic log

[stuck willow]

Is there any way to make so we can see eclipse on right+left side of the screen like spellactivation overlay use to be before the cd manager ?

[lucid olive]

No

[twin lotus]

playing without the 50 ap talent on pull

feels awful

[dusk coral]

True

[twin lotus]

There is some conflicting info on the dreamgrove.

On AoE Priority (2+ targets) , it says that you should starfall at 2 targets
On Rotational Details, it says that you should starfall at 3 targets.

[pallid bay]

dreamgrove lying?

[dusk coral]

And wowhead says press starfall on ST with cosmos proc 🤷‍♂️

[twin lotus]

Logs on the dragons (boss dmg) support the 2 target treshold

[jolly delta]

This is outdated apparently

[jolly delta]

So, I would check with @lucid olive but my interpretation is that now sims say 3t

In the AoE Prio it doesn't explicitly say to starfall at 2, that whole section is for 2t

I'd expect starfall to be an outlier

but

Maybe Gamz is intentionally spreading misinfo who knows

[round field]

arctic rubbing off on him

[pallid bay]

bro taking on too much work

ill give him this tier before burnout

[jolly delta]

bro don't say that

you'll force him to change his mind and focus only on one thing

and that will be wowhead cause they can pay him

dont let big sim win

[royal zenith]

too real

[pallid bay]

gg

[jolly delta]

who the fuck invented numbers???

[royal zenith]

me

[pallid bay]

problem?

[royal zenith]

now what?

[pallid bay]

get your scaling numbers in check

[lucid olive]

Nah

Unless next tier happens to fall in end of May during exams

That'd be horrible

[stark wasp]

hi, i got a question about the rotation in 3+ enemie encounters: what to do with my astral power when starfall is currently active? do i starsurge the primary target? does starfall stack anymore?

[lucid olive]

Starfall

[jolly delta]

can you comment on the 2t starfall controversy?

[pallid bay]

starfall stacks, it prob says so in the tooltip

[lucid olive]

No

[tardy hare]

You cannot view proggress on "of the dawn" achievements?

[stark wasp]

it stacks, an i just press it, kk, thanks a lotz

[lucid olive]

Correct

[jolly delta]

smh gamz u changed

[lucid olive]

No I'm the same

[tardy hare]

The only piece under ilvl 250 I got are the bracers. I guess that's holding me from getting the achi

[lucid olive]

All items need to be above the threshold yeah

[tardy hare]

And thee treshold is the 250?

[lucid olive]

Threshold is the highest ilvl a track goes

So the adventurer one is 237, the rest I have no clue

[tardy hare]

Veteran is 250. So yes

[lucid olive]

Veteran probably 250 I guess

[jolly delta]

done

[crude vessel]

This trinket broken or is the sim broken?

30k dps upgrade for nevermelting ice crystal over eye of drowning void

[pallid bay]

link

[sudden flame]

[crude vessel]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=50259/nevermelting-ice-crystal

From pit of sauron

[sudden flame]

they meant link the sim

[lucid olive]

Link to the sim...

[crude vessel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a1ED6vfKkPzGrMDQ6k8Ewy

[lucid olive]

On use trinket pretty good

[lofty depot]

Wrong opener

[lucid olive]

Also simming AOE and the Eye trinket does split dmg so it loses value on multiple targets

[lofty depot]

You shouldn't be starfiring that instant cast in solar..... And after the buffs u don't need to Starfire the instant in incarn either.

2nd, after ur third surge u build before pressing for
3rd, u should refresh Sunfire prior to incarn

[crude vessel]

Ah didnt see I was simming aoe lol. I'll try single target

For single target its a downgrade it seems

[vital swift]

thank you

did you meant that after i sent 3 surges i just build more AP?
Also do i dump all my AP during incarn cuz i have double eclipse or i continue to spend my AP only when im about to overcap and to move?

[lofty depot]

Yes

And the build up asp for incarn is so u can dump.

[spice roost]

On dragon boss with kindling outside orb adds do we startall

[lofty depot]

U spend to not overcap asp, or procs

[vital swift]

thank you arctic

[lofty depot]

Surge

[spice roost]

Ok ty

[lofty depot]

Or u can vibe it kek

Bet theyre gonna rethink nerfing starfall

[jaunty blaze]

Are they tho

[spice roost]

Should get notes today I think

[lofty depot]

Usually kindling made it lower target count to starfall

[jaunty blaze]

It's a bit sad rn

[spice roost]

Kindling is shit now isn't it

[graceful path]

Hey everyone! Quick question regarding crafting: I’m planning to craft a 259 weapon this week and upgrade it to Mythic next week. However, every time I sim, a Mace shows higher DPS than a Staff. Since I’m a caster, this doesn't seem to make sense any idea why?

Also, I’m thinking about going Haste/Mastery. From what I’ve seen, Haste beats Crit for Elune, and for Keeper of the Grove, they’re about equal. Since there’s a lot of AoE in raids right now and I plan on running M+, I figured this is the best setup. Any suggestions?

[jaunty blaze]

No difference between them

[lucid olive]

link the sim that shows mace higher

also crafting staff is more efficient on your crests

[jaunty blaze]

They mean 2hand mace surely

[royal zenith]

unless...

[jaunty blaze]

Unless...

[lucid olive]

the 2h crafted weapons should all be the same

[royal zenith]

unless......

dum dum dummmm

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

Get the /startattack macro out, maybe mace hit harder

[round field]

instructions unclear

auto attack consumed my tier set proc

[jaunty blaze]

Bro...

😭

[worldly flame]

what M+ build you guys running with? keepers feels better than elune but elune does more dmg.. .. sad

[lucid olive]

m+ isnt out

[lofty depot]

Maybe ur playing keeper wrong

[lucid olive]

maybe he's playing elune wrong as well

[graceful path]

Should I stick with Haste/Mastery?

[lucid olive]

what a mystery

[lucid olive]

mastery > haste=crit > vers

[next tendon]

Hey. Any1 Trying Nullaeus On Tier ?? as balance atm? Cuz the Aoe you should Interrupt comes back faster then the cd on my solar beam?

[lucid olive]

why did i read "any1 trying nutella"

[next tendon]

xD

[jaunty blaze]

Have you tried Nutella tho

[lucid olive]

barely

[pallid bay]

idk other people have said the same thing

[lucid olive]

they didn't sell that in my country until i had grown out of chocolate on bread

[pallid bay]

im assuming you have the 45s kick

[next tendon]

yea

[pallid bay]

in which case make a bug report

[jaunty blaze]

Fair

[lucid olive]

bring back kyveza

at least that boss was fun

[pallid bay]

you cant CC him i assume

[lucid olive]

i saw tradu argue nullaeus was better fight than kvyeza on twitter

[lofty depot]

Blud had fun wiping 200 times hehe

[lucid olive]

blow up

[lofty depot]

Ali also preferred it coming out when there was nothing to do

[lucid olive]

at least i knew dying was skill issue cause i failed a mechanic

[lofty depot]

There was so many better things to do with ur time than that

[jaunty blaze]

Kyveza too hard for the average player 😭

[lucid olive]

this guy white swinging for 60% of my health and having a oneshot spell with shorter CD than my kick

[round field]

well yeah cause tradu can actully kill this unlike kyveza

big mouth no hands

[lofty depot]

He didn't kill kyveza 👀

[round field]

idk if he did

but im just stating facts

[lucid olive]

he argued both bosses suck

[round field]

well yeah

delve content is trahs

[lofty depot]

Did all that work on new boss, for it to be just stupid easy on healers

[lucid olive]

yeah its just so bad

this boss is overgrown quest mob

[lofty depot]

Yea wasn't even mechanically hard, I just had to figure out incarn timings

[lucid olive]

kite him for 4 minutes -> send all cooldowns to kill adds -> kite for 4 minutes and repeat

[sudden flame]

no shot 💀

surely rage baiting

[lucid olive]

no just regular baiting

[lucid olive]

@wraith kiln

[graceful path]

Now the staff is ahead LOL, must be some kind of bug.
Haste/Mast
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bkstyNoE3wP1EDEEda1Uvf
Crit/Mast
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/djL9wghthvpA7xw5N33G7L

[lucid olive]

can you link the old sim

but yeah that mace and staff doesnt matter

[midnight bough]

What needs to be done to get hero currency through housing?

[lucid olive]

they have the same stats

[uncut roost]

Do you have the sim set to Wumbo?

[lofty depot]

Get quest, buy some decor, get crests

[hearty crypt]

Boomy gets nerfed on wednesday kekw

[midnight bough]

Quest name pls?

[lucid olive]

?

[lofty depot]

No clue

Probably in silvermoon

Go run around

[rigid flame]

Anyone know anything about the eternal void song chain from the crown of the cosmos? I got one and obviously can't proc the damage normally, BUT I think we can using the two set rings twilight barrage and/or soulcatchers charm (also probably the new trinket from the march raid).

[hearty crypt]

Balance patch of 20th
30% nerf to meteorite & bugfixes

[wraith kiln]

It's easy because Ky'veza was fucking atrocious, so Nullaeus just had to be an actual WoW boss

[lofty depot]

That wasn't a nerf, that also isn't for Tuesday

[lucid olive]

The change is for 12.0.5 PTR

So in 5 weeks give or take

[hearty crypt]

Is it ? Damn got baited like a rookie

[lucid olive]

Damage tuning also does not matter for PTR and the Meteorite change is only meant as a gameplay change

[round field]

kyveza wasnt bad

[lofty depot]

It says ptr on the post

[round field]

fun fight fight actual mechanics

if you disagree its an easy self report

[wraith kiln]

Worst nemesis boss and it's not close

[lucid olive]

[sudden flame]

terrible take 🥀

[lofty depot]

Nullaeus wasn't an actual wow boss

[wraith kiln]

Of course it was

[lucid olive]

overgrown prey boss

[wraith kiln]

It was easy yes

[lucid olive]

easy

[wraith kiln]

But it was a WoW boss

[lucid olive]

try doing it on balance

where the oneshot is less cooldown than solar beam

[sudden flame]

kyveza was actually balanced for different roles

[lofty depot]

Melee swings for 40% of ur HP

[lucid olive]

when you died on kyveza you at least knew it was skill issue

[sudden flame]

this boss is omega hard on dps specs then omega easy on tanks and healeras

[round field]

kyveza was just hand check

[lofty depot]

It was piss easy on lock and spr

[round field]

do u have hands or not

[hearty crypt]

You have the CD with talent btw

[round field]

no u dont

its not enough

[wraith kiln]

Ky'veza tested for twitch reactions (useless everywhere else), favored mobile specs massively, had no progression because it was the same shit on repeat and relied entirely on 1shots

[sudden flame]

if the main mechanic is surviving melee swings its a dogshit boss

[hearty crypt]

I did have it with talent of 45 sec silence

[round field]

show video

of kill

[hearty crypt]

But the issue is juste the raw dmg of thz boss lol

[wraith kiln]

I would've 2shot it as Shadow if I hadn't forgotten to re-MC at 20%, it's very spec dependent

[lofty depot]

U could die on kyveza if u didn't have pots or a CD for the aoe pulse she did

[hearty crypt]

As boomy u get absolutly smashed by his Aa

[round field]

? a kyveza mechanic was literally in the raid

[wraith kiln]

Yeah, with 5x as long time to avoid it

So you could actually play your spec

[lofty depot]

Then there was memory game

[round field]

ye

cause theres 50 other things going on

unlike there

[wraith kiln]

Memory game was awful too, completely ruined pacing

[lofty depot]

Smh, blud can't play memory

[wraith kiln]

And was visually atrocious too

[lofty depot]

Open ur eyes or

[round field]

i can see how old age can make it difficult

ngl

[wraith kiln]

No?

[lucid olive]

disable UI moment

[wraith kiln]

Raid Ky'veza was a strictly better boss than delve

And raid Ky'veza got ruined by the nerfs so xd

[round field]

not raid kyveza

raid salabar

[lucid olive]

her daddy

[wraith kiln]

There wasn't anything happening during images on Salad?

Maybe a leftover beam?

[round field]

which is more than what happens during the kyveza fight

so basically

it all comes down to

skill issue

git good noob

[lucid olive]

i could let kyveza auto me for owlkin frenzy, that was fun

[wraith kiln]

Solo bosses are bad until they make them COMPLETELY spec specific

[lofty depot]

Didn't have to face the images on kyveza

[lucid olive]

yeah this i agree with

mage tower bosses clears all delve bosses

[wraith kiln]

And actually test your spec skill instead of dodging 1shot knives that go too fast for real specs to play their spec during them

Yes, and even those were shared (= flawed)

They also didn't rely entirely on 1shots and unavoidable damage

[lucid olive]

hey, my 30% uptime on bear form and 10+ minute fight timer was pure spec skill

[wraith kiln]

)

I'm so happy I only did like 20 pulls early and just went back with BiS

Only having to play 5 minutes of repeat garbage was plenty

[lucid olive]

Think I expoited the Balance mage tower challenge when they brought it back in SL..

or bug abused? whats the correct wording to make myself seem cooler

[round field]

oh i did the same

i cba

i pressed cyclone on the dude and just killed him

[lucid olive]

the cyclone tech to entirely skip a mechanic in last phase lmao

[round field]

it skipped like the entire fight lmao

broke all the transitions

[lucid olive]

I remember watchign Naowh do it and he sat up until 3am screaming at his chat lmfao

was good content

after he killed it he ended stream in like 20 seconds

[wraith kiln]

I still wish I'd done the OG Feral mage tower in memer talents instead of getting bored :/

[lucid olive]

I didn't even do all the mage tower challenges until Nerubar tier I think

but really wanted that spelltome mount cause it's sick

[charred kettle]

hello for do weekly mythic dungeon best spec is keeper of the grove please ? in mastery/crit/hast stats ?

[lofty depot]

U can play either hero talent, they're about the same

Mastery > haste=crit

Might be heavier haste but shrug

[graceful path]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kmCRevWtGieWc83pghiVr9

[charred kettle]

ok i played elune chosen but my dps in aoe is bad maybe keeper of grove in M0 is best no ?

[graceful path]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h4LH77THh2bjrcYZqcN4Vo

@lucid olive Are these the ones you wanted?

[lofty depot]

Don't think it matters all that much

[lofty depot]

Let me teach u what margin of error is

[glacial steeple]

They’re very close, EC would prefer if the mobs lived slightly longer though

[charred kettle]

so EC will beter in myhtic+ high key

[round field]

maybe

maybe not

[charred kettle]

you play EC for doing M0 ?

[glacial steeple]

I play EC for M0 because it’s a lot less brain power. We simply don’t know which will be better until we have actual data

[round field]

you can just play whatever you feel like

[lucid olive]

play whatever talents you want buddy

[round field]

doesnt matter