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Both of them in fact
Haha! All the time they put in already? Iโm just grateful for what we have ๐
me when i tell my raidleader that bloodmallet promised me the trinket 3000 sims ago
Jihad it is
Yes
this is old information
tty :p
direct people to keystone.guru website instead
you can make routes inside the browser and copy the SimC code from there
ok thanks gamz
it also handles waiting time between pulls better than the MDT sim weakaura did
wait this? https://keystone.guru/
its borked
or was 1week ago
(or 2? i cant track time anymore)
it isnt according to they guy making dungeonroute sims
it just reuses the names of mobs
according to him
I did not because my gear is underconstruction right now, all of my gear is subject to change, I don't have any tier piece so the sims would be pretty complicated. I can't put all the possible gear I could get ๐
cope btw or
idk dnc ngl
truth
I know about droptimizer but it requires premium to test all the dungeons at the same time.
if u cba spending 2$ sry
And it doesn't stop the issue : how icyveins and wowhead classify the same trinket as S, or D. I'm curious about the explanation.
maybe try running mutple ones
the guides are written before the patch was even out afaik so there assumptions
there also written by different people
Ok
We don't all live in the same country or economy. Thank you for your nice answers anyway ๐
Freevpn to a cheaper country wcyd
guys are there any circumstances when we use force of nature with eclipse not CA/Incrarn
simcode will be 1$
lol
For some reason when i copy the text from simc, they don't suggest me the staff I crafted, any way of solving this ?
is this worth? taking it to heroic?
yes
What is simcode ?
dont use crests
Where did you read it would be a good idea to send a hero crest craft
if you have treants and you dont have CA/incarn
absolutely a very bad idea
isent it good? I dont get it. Why would that be a bad idea
mplus is out next and can use mythic crests to craft it to 285 saveing the heroic crests that would be watsed
@ivory barn
aha okei gotchaso i just wait for now then
Hero crest limited
Will be useful for many weeks
Can just send Myth crests when you have them
yes
Thank you
You can craft with no crests if you want a weapon for the week
^
allready done
then ya just use that til mythic crest upgrade
Ait ait
- ADVERTISING OUTSIDE OF โ general IS FORBIDDEN.
dmg is helpful for killing stuffs .. so checks out

Anybody know if sims consider the 5 sec terrify from this trinket ?
for u it will be free 
bro switched up after being banned from patreon

no nepotism, you will abide by the rules of this discord server!
but no yeah you're right!!!
it wasn't intentional though
Thank you very very much ๐
there's an option to set how long it takes for you to get dispelled
I was using that trinket in heroic raid last night and I was wondering why I was getting randomly feared and no one else was. Then I started looking at my trinkets because it would only happy when I used my trinket. So I just replaced it with something thatโs like a ~50 dps loss

lmfao
there was thsi trinket in nerubar tier that stunned you if you didnt press the trinket again within its duration, and they hotfixed it when i was mid raid so you had to jump instead to clear it, so i was getting stunned like 5 times every pull
too funny
Does that count in the 600 limit per week?
or is it basically 2 free keys on top of the 6?
Is there anyway ingame to see tier sets fast?
Used to be an item sets tab in journal and I dont see it anymore
which would be a big L
No
No
haha
I read first question
Yeah exactly
And it answers second
Mr 50/50
Haha thank you, Read the pin!
Mmhm mmhm
Yeah I remember that troll of a trinket
So I will preface off by saying i am probably just bad at the calls.
Running delves with my wife last night (Ret Pally) almost same ilvl and i was getting smoked. Mostly in AOE trash. but even on ST it was rough to keep up.
I feel like i stuggle so much with the whole Lunar/Solar Cycle
i would judge performance from delves
you can post a log maybe you're doing something fundamentally wrong
also tehre is no such thing as solar/lunar cycle so maybe you have a misunderstanding somewhere
well the eclipse spell i mean when it is off of CD i try to make sure if i am AOE'ing i pop with Lunar and ST i pop when it is Solar
yo do we have a trinket ranking somewhere ?
yes raidbots.com
dreamgrove and wowhead both ahve
that's not how eclipse works anymore
lunar isn't 'aoe' and solar isn't 'st'
it doens't matter which one you get you just press it for a dps gain like any other CD
ok if i cast wrath then eclipse doesnt it empower my wrath for the next 15 seconds or w/e
sure but you don't think about solar or lunar. if you're casting wrath it will give you solar, if you're casting starfire because mobs are grouped it will give you lunar
ther'es nothing to think about
you don't purposefully enter lunar or solar you just press it lined up with the other CDs like any other CD
it doesn't matter for starfall or starsurge what eclipse you're in, the only thing it really matters is for wrath or starfire
and since wrath and starfire auto adjust the eclipse, there's nothing to think about
i mean, on opener if its aoe you need to cast a starfire which has no travel time :p
So if I Eclipse regardless of the icon for said eclipse showing Lunar or Solar then the buff i get from casting it will empower both Wrath and Starfire
no it will buff w/e filler you'd be casting for that situtation
all you need to think about is if you'd wrath cuz it's ST, or starfire cuz mobs are grouped up, and that's it
there's no further worrying about which eclipse you get, because that gets auto selected
yah i guess i get tossed up in a scenario where it is an AOE situation then swaps over to a ST. feel like i waste my eclipses then I am waiting on it to cooldown so i can get that window again
it doesn't matter 15% on wrath is tiny
I analyzed this log (top1 vorasius rn) : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Rn7TX3BPYmvQHM6F?fight=7&type=casts&view=timeline&source=55&ability=205636
why are them using force of nature only with CA and not using with eclipse at all
the ecipse flavor is largely just that, flavor
both buff your spenders the same anyways
Brother are already won. Having a wife that plays the game with you
separate hobbies aren't that bad either ๐
I figured out that 18 years ago lol
theyre using their trees on CD and holding a charge of CA for the trees. better to buff CA than a raw eclipse
all the actual benefits from eclipse are front loaded anyways. so if halfway thru you need to swap to the other filler you've already taken advantage of most of that eclipse
There rarely are situations that demand a switch
I just noticed now Starfall is astral damage lol
i was focusing way too much on lunar eclipse for starfall LOL
It's somehow a common misconception from new players
im not a new player!!!
Those new to reading tooltips then ๐
been balance druiding since vanilla (whenever i was not healing obviously), but raiding as balance since tbc xD
it was not always astral ๐ฎ or eclipse made a difference for it
it's just a awful shitty job by dev re-designing a core class mechanic but keeping the name the same
it's just gonna confuse ppl for no reason
True
about starfall, should we use on 2+ targets (kotg starweaver) with and without cosmos proc ? i need to be comfort
Check what the guide says
hi guys, i have 2 questions that I haven't seen answered in compendium so I came here to ask; speaking specifically in a purely single target scenario
- ASCENDANT STARS - someone above stated that this proc should always be used for a free STARFIRE instead of wrath even in ST, is it because of additional AP generation? and is this even true?
- using procs of touch the cosmos, do we always use it for starfall even if we're in a purely ST scenario? and why is that so if it's true?
Switched from melee to ranged class , Balance Druid , for the first time. How fun is Balance compared to other ranged classes if you know?
that's not really precise
That's subjective tbh
- It's first week of raid so learning timings and shit
- I was holding CDs to make sure we killed adds
What's fun for me doesn't have to be fun for you
True but I do wanna know other peoples opinion , been looking and balance looks the most fun in terms of being able to cast spenders when you have to move from mechanics
- U wrath now after the buffs.
- U surge now
It's funnier than most of tww imo
balance isn't the best for melee players to swap to. too much hard casting and no off-gcd movement
it's better than before since more instants
but mages have shimmer+block which is easier for melee players to adapt to
Fun is subjective, how do u gauge fun
Yeah in Midnight with the removing of like 20 buttons on most classes ranged classes seem playable for me and more simple idk , or I just never wanted to learn a new class and read all the talents/abilities etc.
Haha unlucky then I guess , but from the games I've had for now it's not actually that hard
its barely even redesigned 
hi guys, after latest tuning what is best for m+ ? keeper or Elunes ?
Btw do you guys have any tips for a newly born Balance players? The only thing I've figured is that I forget to re-dot the bosses because I'm used to starfall extending the duration so I lose a lot of ST dps but I guess I'll learn to re-dot as I play along ๐คท
- it doesnt matter, wrath/starfire in that situation are dmg neutral. I prefer to spend it on Starfire inside CA/Incarn because of the extra proc chance to Touch the Cosmos
- use cosmos procs on starsurge
thank you very much
and thank you too
it still double dips
did people notice that on the delve boss. if you go in as dps spec and swap to tank and pull directly. the boss doesnt do the tank ability. making it free.
yeah, i didnt think it was fixed .. but if they'd do it
just learning balance, I have the 1.5m crit on use trinket and am wondering if I should hold my trinket a few seconds to wait for fury of elune to line up with incarn or hold fury a few seconds to get them all to line up, I'm guessing holding trinket but I'm sure it also matters how much I'm holding it
U should use ur trinket wih CA /incarn
What (if any) profiles do you use for Cooldown Manager. I tried Luxthose and it is a little to much.
lmao
Gatekeeping
is it
there are so many addons out there that do the exact same things
and if i start listing any then someone goes "BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE?"
there's some stuff about addons in bottom of compendium
and then some slur as an answer to any potential questions
I see the link to Wago and a few UI reccoms
oh yeah just the ui packs
i'd read the Compendium stuff instead
just copied in the same info from Compendium
does that count as self promo 
How much do I have to pay to get the UI pack
^ this
you ui pack was cool gamz
thx
Lol
just added in the stuff from compendium
also added the faq back in compendium from here
now just need to try and keep both updated simultaneously
No because I told him to post it
He wasn't going to
i was just making a little joke anyway
U wanna hear a little joke
ya
my dps gottem
Feral damage

It's a bear tier who cares
im number one leather tier prio in my split

Normal vaelgors I suppose
Bing chillin
News to do pvp this weekend and pray for vault
Does this translate to only starsurge outside of procs with starweaver?
yo am i dumb or is there no stone to use the beacon on in atal aman
wdym
the stone is the checkpoint where u get an extra life btw
@junior thicket
incase u were unsure
i know
oh
i am near boss there is none
there is one out of bounds
but u get tped back if u cross it
think imma just do the one in void storm
Yes
should we cahnge in raidbots the apl for simming?
no
ok ty :p
so we use starsurge even if there's, e.g. 8 targets or am i reading this incorrectly?
is it from the AoE rotation
That picture is from under it
it is, yes
im sorry, it just might be my confusion
But no it's 3 targets unless u have weaver
In which case u Starfall with weaver procs at any target
i removed tghe "unless talented into starweaver" part cause i guess it brings more confusion
U can vibe it out
the "unless starweaver" was mostly referring that you use starfall on 1 and 2 targets if you have procs
okay thank you, i thought i made gamz mad but i just didnt quite understand the part, sorry once again

Probably depends on ur character. U can sim it
Also, feasts have stamina on them, so ur using that for prog
what about with kindling still 3 targets?
Isn't there normally a perseonal food that is same as feast?
Uhh gamz showed a sim, can't remember.. p sure it's 3t
ok
So question... I am struggling to stay alive while leveling through Midnight. Any tips? I have 0 issue on feral or guardian staying alive but for some reason bommkin just hurts
is there a major difference in dps between keeper of the grove and chosen of elune in raid?
I just always level as bear
But play taunt trees and slam convoke prob
EC sims the bear, but casting Starfire in a raid isn't exactly fun
hello, any ideas how is boomkin scaling with better gear? I have just started M0 leaving heroic behind. It kinda feels very random to be able to pull some dmg
Have CDs = do damage
The best thing we scale with is the raids Ilvl, the shorter the fight the better the results.
Is there any good videos that show our raid rotation? slowly please hit me up
Hi guys ! I need some advice... how do u play on dragons (Valegor) heroics ?
Adds died instant, I tried to dot both but seeem to be a lost dps.... I tried this build
I'm a bit lot to be honest ^^'
guys whats the best simming for dungeon since balance dont support dgslice?
tettles has a bit of a guide video out... but the rotation changes based on targets and needs for the fight
its a prio list of things to do
i disagree that adds die instantly
dont moonfire
thanks il check it out
u can run meteor storm and slam starfall
just starfall and sunfire if anything
u dont need to dot them
u can active mushrooms
active mushroom was slamming true
thats it tho nothing else matters
any tip?
dont sim aoe prob
how im supposed to know my top gear for aoe?
wont work
its gonna do 50 moonfires in a row on all the targets in the dungeon
๐ฅ
Around 10s and less than 5 s packed :/
Just sunfire the second one ?
thats not instant
u can cast 3 starfalls in that timeframe and farm
What do u mean ?
read what meteor storm does
the active talent you mean ?
i do not understand what this means
THIS IS NORMAL
nerf balance
nothing about you is normal
stfu
ur team is noob?
no dev
yes
or rather that dev is ugly
same every tier
All top parsers in raid have crucible of erratic energies, should we use that for now ? With which "upgrade" ?
oh yeah can be a good idea !!
u can sim it
with all of them
it does good
u dont pick one
without doting them
All top parsers (rwf split alts) are using this trinket that you get for free? No way man
Like main boss sun + moon and second boss just sun ?
i meant the orbs u can sunfire
Did anyone else find the timing for cds awkward on salad bar? The proper opening felt a little too slow to fit in cds properly during the amp, think I only got it partially
i have a question. not a balance druid but this is an overall question. if someone said what site should they use to see whats pretty good for balance druid, guides, gear etc. which site would you use. wowhead or icyveins, if those were the only two options
Thank you for this answer ๐
shrug see how it goes... maybe we play 1m convoke locken
dreamgrove
nince try
Then whats the point in those sites?
clicks for $$
$$
prob wowhead
ah. so both dont know what they are talking about?
but just depends who writes the guide
oh !! I want that tomorow for the heroic split !!
correct, especially that fucking wowhead writer guy
u just need to know who writes them
so i have an example. on wowhead it shows the soul charm as like there worse trinket, and vessel is in A tier. but icyveins is the opposite.
well if you care about that much accuracy you'd sim
otherwise the difference isnt' big enough that you'd be way off
vessel is good if u grab the orbs (ur not gonna grab them)
Only the trinkets in the top 4 slots in a trinket list matters
Ah yeah sorry ! I will try that just one before they getting packe cause after they died too fast
every trinket after that is purely placed off vibes
but its diff on both sites?
unfortunate
sometimes one is more up to date
So If I resum :
I can play this bluid
one sun on voidorb
Do i care about doting both boss or not ??
if you're basing your decision off guide site and tiers you shouldn't be caring this much about things. so waht if one trinket is B and one is A, it doesn't make that much diff
is crafting staff the best first craft?
the only way you're going to get more details is to sim your character
yessem
well its more widly diff. soul charm is S on one, but D on the other
it still doesnt' matter for the intended audience/content of those sites
trust sim > trust silly people on the interent
you won't do 15% less damage because you're using a D vs S
they're just a quick answer for ppl ooking for an answer doesn't have to be always correct
if they both "sim" these set ups and items, how are the sims wildly different?
everyone's sim is different
who said they did
there is no such thing as a general 'sim'
who said they didnt
just cuz someone simmed something on one character doesn't mean it applies to you
Different gear profiles, sims ran on different stages of SimC or APL development, writer's personal opinion and bias etcetc
"Trust me bro I simmed it" - the worlds least trustworthy person
There are definitely some valuable stuff to read in both wowhead and icyveins guides
Rotation, talent suggestions, crafting recommendations etc all have value
why go there when we have the compendium
because Compendium doesnt cover everything
sometimes they're also just out of date cuz the writer is busy/etc. but that's just the nature of written guides
its better than video guide at least thats for sure
ya videos are definitely worse
videos just become outdated so easily
i do think theyre good at showing people specific rotational stuff though
yeah
@wicked shuttle do you have such video?
they have value in explaining somewhat esoteric rotational complexities
or to show like a complete basic version of the spec since that very rarely changes from season to season
everything inbetween is volatile
ya i made one, but the talent stuff is a bit wrong
or rather was based on previously known information that has changed
pressing tree a bit wrong
thank you T. Teevee Tettleton
honestly at this point kinda feels like the best option. i can mass pull anything and i know i cant die
ya we're back af
but its fine.. if people want to see how u think its played they can take ideas from it
uhhh
what addon is used for simc command
LMAO
(I purged too much)
@lofty depot hilfe
simulation craft
oh full name?
ya
Hmm im a bit confused about optimizing Eclipse. Do we just pop it on cd and take the downtime or is there like a trick to it?
U will have downtime
it's just a another CD, and like all CDs you optimize it by using it at teh correct time
uptime/downtime doesnt' matter
But yea, u use said CD when u can do the most damage with it
U also don't want to be capped on charges
try to always have a charge for trees (keeper)
ngl the more i play this spec now i wish regular eclipse was axed
and you just had like 4 charges of CA
is stat prio still mastery/haste?
@lofty depot can you add sockets to items like in war within
bruh why don't I know all of this
I cant
no
only with great vault at least
there aren't any setting items for jewelry sockets
^^
check
but wrists/belt/head can be socketed like usual
All jewelry come with them
and 1 other is for pvp items
ye
cringe!!
all jewelry has a socket + some end boss jewelry have 2
on ST is it better now with starweaver to actually starfall to fish to starsurge procs ?
No
U spend asp with surge, and u surge cosmos procs u less u meet the criteria to starfall
so basically only starfall for a starweaver warp proc
and pray for a positive feedback loop
when is starfall > starsurge? 2 or 3 targets?
Hey everyone, quick question, is it worth it to spend Hero Crests on a crafted weapon? If yes, which one?
3
No, unless u like wasting crests
so on dragon boss with 2 targets u still just starsurge one of them
Ye, until the orbs come out
New season, new problems
true
You know what doesn't feel good
Wrath outside of eclipse when you play the fury of elune cd reduction hero talent
this still feels wrong on dragons boss lol
must stand inbetween and starfall spam
Need to pool asap for orb drops
the true padder strat
gonna ask another basic question
Hey is it just me or this expansion have a lot of "group of monster" that actually are not all linked together ? I feel like when i moonfire things (delves/world content), the spread doesnt work cuz the other ennemy is not in fight with me. Am i going crazy orrr
do we know what tier is offpiece
Gloves

Read the guide dork
stupid hands
I was
not good enough for us
Need to be in combat with them
but then again that guy who writes dreamgrove.gg is way worse than wowhead
so what could I have expected amirite

Yeah but in the past, if 2 ennemies were walking together, i could choose one and it will moonfire both. Now, i have to moonfire the both of them and it feel really messy
Sunfire first
Guess it was too hard for them to code ennemies in group instead of each indivudual unit in a group of other individual units zzz
I mean ur just not in combat with them but surr
hidden tech from the boomie mods
I'm not a mod
sunfire first
But EC got bug fixed, soooooo
Thanks for letting him know
I mean yeah i guess
okay but gamz
why are we pressing eclipse, ca, foe, trees
spenders
TOO MANY BUTTONS

thats normal, they arent in combat when you first cast.
Needs more asp
So that's in the wrong order, smh
true
Is the talent build on Wowhead still good for raid or is it changed after patch
Guys I have raid in 1 hour how big is the difference between ec and cotg for raid?
U should be looking at warcraft logs
There are many fights with different styles
There's not, one is just more cringe to play when doing mechanics
So I can basically go ec and itโs whatever if Iโm still learning raid boss mechanics?
sure
you can play whatever talents you want to play
rip warrior of elune
why does my eclipse lunar in this talent build?
I cant seem to find a solar one
in the same build on wowhead in opener it's solar
Did u read ur talents
My last question is why do you go convoke in the recommended ec build for raiding?
Press wrath = solar
Press Starfire = lunar mmhmm
Convoke?
Cuz it does more dam prob
cause it does more dmg than the alternative
Yes
do we have the item id's for pots?
Balance is feeling quite ok. Better than I expected. With 250 ilvl in m0 content does good compared to other dps. Curious how it feels in bigger keys where mobs survive more
or nah
yea one sec deux
/use item:245898
/use item:245897
/use item:241308
/use item:241309

fleetings + regulars
no lmao I was asked to dps last second
this is not good
ty appreciated
npnp
yes
use cooldown together with other cooldown
Thanks
Gamz you have some rotation line up somewere ? i dont see it on wowhead
Nvm found it
good job
also i have joined the train, kotg way better than ec
Having the correct opinion does feel good
not in m+ tho?
Good thing m+ is out and doesn't matter
:p
What page can i see this
Warcraftlogs
warcraftlogs
Slow
do we still track starlord stacks? I cant seem to get them on default ui
@lucid olive
hey man just wanted to say im a big fan of your work
and I think u are what the kids are calling poggers
arent u warlock player
a guy cant appreciate his pal regardless of the class he is playing?
class tribalism is real
this hatred was not so strong when I was light blue ๐
you were mage because moonkin was bad
@lofty depot
now hippo moonkin ๐
My raider snitched on you
hippo is cat dude

its not fair
How can I track this with ingame cooldown manager?
@frosty raven I have cut ties with Arctic
Is the crucible trinket actually good? It out sims everything I've got but don't see it on any lists.
can track Starlord instead
when Starlord is at 3 stacks you dont have ascendant eclipse stacks
yo guys is it boomie szn?
lists are don't mean anything at start of xpac since many things aren't tested, many things are bugged when testing that later get fixed, and many things get re-tuned by blizz. and guide sites force writers to make lists even if they know it won't be correct by the time ppl read them.
is there anyway to have a shift mod macro with eclipse? It just seems to bug out for me when it swaps between solar and lunar eclipse
wdym bug out you'll need to be more specific
it's a single button there's no casting one or the other
So like this
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift]Fury of Elune; Solar Eclipse
It doesn't work once it changes to lunar but there doesn't seem to be a way to include both in one?
is there a st ec build yet?
But are we still friends?
Well solar eclipse isn't lunar silly
Also why r we modding those to each other
Yeah but there's no spell you can put in that does both that I can find
you might not be able to with how the dev coded it
there's a hidden buff that changes teh button but you can't acces that so
you can bugpost it and maybe they'll take a look at it
ah ok thanks
Only if you stop picking fights in the DH discord
seems a bit odd to put 2 short lenght cds on the same key
I actually apologized to him yesterday
Lmao
I was being a dickhead cause I was already mad about some inconsequential shit and fought him on semantics
#reformed
I for one am shocked
guys one question
at chosen elune build you enter lunar eclipse before incarn on opener or enter first on incarn and then use the moons separately?
Hey peeps what do we think of this trinket?
I actually don't know the cadence for moons cuz it just got bug fixed. Before the dpe was lower on full moon than new moon. But u would like use at least new moon in lunar while building asp
Just looking through the raid logs is pretty grimโฆare these post buff as well? ๐ฌ
starfall is 2+ targets in raid?
ok but on the raid boss of generals that you go chosen elune on logs they are doing different of the guides
on the guides they say on opener you should enter lunar eclipse and after go incarn
but they are going twice lunar eclipse and when it finish they enter incarn
how should i do it?
Some form of a buff should be on table soon
Without kindling no
3 then?
We're within a 5% margin most specs right now
And u get a 12% buff with tier when others get like 4
We're gonna blast just u wait
(surely)
Is tuning going to be announced Saturday?
Probably Friday at 6pm again
Is there any way currently to play a sound say when eclipse have 2 seconds left of its duration or is that kinda functionality all gone?
I think u can tts it, but I find making sounds on shit for rotational things silly. U can track the icon with number on it, u can change ur asp bar to change colors at the end of eclipse.
no fun allowed
you will enjoy the dark ages
Well I'm a bit of an audible learner i guess so i prefer it that way.
Is there a way to track free starfall/starsurge procs similar to weakauras?
I can't find relevant buff in cdm
yo guys is it a big difference if i go elune insteed of grove for st target raid?
Starweaver warp and weft
like i can barely play elune lol on grove i find it too hard to track procs/ mecahnics aswell
Just play less proc build?
Could you provide me one that would be good for st in raid but not have so much stuff to track please?
do we just run generally the same talents for every boss fight? or are there any fights were the build changes?
Well ur procs are coming from weaver, so change it to rattle prob
If u don't like Incarn, play convoke
The builds are everyone trying shit
thx ๐
๐ณ
done ty
ok but on the raid boss of generals that you go chosen elune on logs they are doing different of the guides
on the guides they say on opener you should enter lunar eclipse and after go incarn
but they are going twice lunar eclipse and when it finish they enter incarn
how should i do it?
Goop starfalls on 2 target, which isn't in the guide either
This is week 1 vibe trying shit
Not everything is perfect, not everything is planned out
Starfall this dude
okok
There's always a correct build
Ok go find it
My name isn't orange, not my job
vaelgor nerf when 
grab best performing druids raid talents for fight while walking to raid boss
bro is using kotg with kotg and has treants, convoke and fury of elite
My treants hotkey is also my fury of elune hotkey.
Have to drag fury of elune from spell journal to empty slot on bar and click it for whole fight.
Grow up kekkers
God I fucking hate this shit already was using my one unbound key for fucking eclipse because the fucking class dev thought it was a good idea to make it a cooldown
Who puts fury on trees key. Thatโs obviously where warrior went
No renewal is bound to hotw
What is bound to vigil?
Warrior is on my convoke key
Lol
Warrior is ur trees key
Cuz u know they share a node
Fury is ur moons key, cuz u know they share a ndoe
It seems like we are making bad choices
I didnt bind vigil it was macroed to incarn cuz my raid leader didnt give a fuck about it
Flare bind..... Is available just wait til u have to press mushroom
New to Balance druid, always been a healer. Any beginners tips?
Read the guide
Make a demo lock
Or guides
no, I will not
I like my druid
Don't do that, those people are cringe
What would you say is the best guide?
Dreamgrove
Cheers!
Idk who's making good video guides nowadays. I liked naguura when I was new to the spec
All of them are in the pins, I prefer dreamgrove
Thanks!
Video guides get out dated 12 minutes after posted this early in the season
We find new things, buffs happen, raid needs change.
True but its a good baseline then u go dg and read apl to fix whatever is outdated. At least that's how I learnt
Btw arctic did u craft weapon
yes
Im on the fence of crafting since every int class already crafted for my raid
Means if mh oh drop i would win default
There's no staff until last boss
U gonna go through all raid without a mythic weapon
Sounds cringe
Always hated mh/oh crafts early
U meant veteran?
Crest efficiency>
How u getting mythic this week
I didn't say I was, but next week we're getting it
Hmm good point
Thats a really good point actually. Thanks arctic
@lofty depot whose ui are u using btw? Realised during raid the one im using is kinda bad. Considering switching to gamz
Did oi ever end up releasing one?
Dsune
Some imagination of gamz old cdm, random bullshit I fixed on trb, and atrocities old elv.profile.kek
What's trb
Twintops resource bar
Also is there anyway to get details to reset in new dungeons for overall dps?
Weakauras but not
Ive always liked his setups
Go to the searchbar and look up his name
whats a good dungo for leg farm
okay guys. I have a problem with Chimaerus. After intermission my convoke almost ignore boss
does anyone know how to fix that?
ya swap to incarn
thats not my fault, just bug?
ya
thx
Miserable for feral who has no relevant alternative
balance is trash
@lofty depot do you like my cabbage?
What r u making
Was gonna say I went to our feral to make sure it was a thing cuz I saw hippos tweet
That's a banger
Only 7 casts too whaddafrick
Yea idk
Was gonna go look at some random feral logs and see how many were missing casts
Cuz it's not only not casting damage, but not casting at all
yo gamers just got a delve bounty map, does it matter which tier i use it on?
8+
ty
Hey guys, if I use an enchantment on the crafted staff, will I need to enchant it again when I get it re-crafted with hero crests?
no and only recraft with myth crests
No, but also you should not be crafting with hero crests
Ahh true
Cabbage
its way too big it will never fit
Is that a challenge
Does anyone know if using Archon's app is the only way to upload logs?
there's the old school non-datamining(that we know of) app
what're people using to track Ascendant fires procs and Starweaver's warp procs?
the cdm
yes
ya I went into the cd settings and see them all there. my b shoulda looked prior to askin
ty tho arctic
oh maybe they're hiding it. idk i have it installed from somewhere
yeah they redirect to archon
it still auto updates so they're at least still maintaining it
proccing starweaver back-to-back-to-back actually feels hella nice
overwolf it up
you say it like it's better
See lot of people running rattle the stars vs starweaver, what have you guys been enjoying?
i installed addons manually for years because i didnt want to touch curse with a 10 ft pole
huh there's a brew cask for the uploader https://formulae.brew.sh/cask/warcraft-logs-uploader
yeah theres also a version on the aur
all versions of their uploader use it
oh did htey move teh standaloen to overwolf also
how do u track starweaver or am i that dumb
u go into your cdm and look the for starweaver warp and weft buffs
I want a warning when a heal whispers me with innervate
Had a WA before, is there any other way or addon to do this?
and yeah standalone uses the same
idk much more than that
and that there was network traffic to ow
unlucky
at least you only need to run it to upload then exit i guess
can vm if you care that much
wait this sounds like theyr'e still tlaking about their app not hte old uploader
Do we just sent the 2nd CA/incarn charge back to back at the start of a fight?
anyone know why my chat in Elvui disappeared after installing GamzUi without the elvui profile?
i see its enabled in elvui, not sure whats going on
What build do you prefer in delves?
no u use 2nd ca with trees
bear
if I have 250 staff with haste/mastery, is it better to upgrade the staff fully to 263 and craft something else than staff?
theres still 2 weeks before you even have the chance for a myth track weapon if you're an m+er
True! ty
Weird question for yโall, sorry if itโs been asked before, is convoke bugged on chimaerus for you guys too? Or just feral.
Been at work all day and just heard
yes
What's wrong with it?
Noted, Ty. just didnโt want to spread the word to my other druids in guild
Convoke the Spirits is currently bugged on Chimaerus. After the intermission it will just perma cast non-balance spells. PLAY INCARNATION FOR THAT BOSS
ethical pad
Bet ty handsome Gamz
you are required by law to pad now
yes sir

That's padding? I thought that's how we play the spec
Thank goodness
how much haste are we good at the beginning? i've seen on raidbots that it asks me to change a lot of equipment pieces for mastery/crit.
no such thing as good haste
and why would that be a bad thing?
just wear what gives you more dps
do not trust big sim
why are we making up stats we need up now
so do you recommend crafting a staff haste/mastery ?
Stack Multistrike
sure
Naw but haste mastery seems legit
and having a hero versa/mastery staff, do you also recommend spending hero crests on crafting a staff?
no
if you're crafting a staff and want to upgrade it, wait till you have enough myth crests (with upgrading)
craft the staff with sparks only and recraft it next week with myth crests
kk thx guys
Wonder if the convoke bug makes resto Druids cast balance spells lmao
Resto blasting???
for some reason it was never reversed bugged
Use it on 8+ bountiful for hero loot
it's just on Chimerius that it's bugged right?
unless you find somewhere else
Cool, I'm just gonna run incarn
anyone know how to make ayjiecdm announce when dps pot is off cd?
dont think you can do that
currently thanks to gamz i am tracking it via the racials tab "manage spells"
fkin blizzard
is there an addon replacement for the innervate notification weakaura?
gg
guess only real diff is you upgraded trinket
Any way to see your eclipse left+right of your screen like it use to be with spell activation overlay on. Before the cd manager?
no
Sad :< guess its reroll time
๐ฅฃ
rich getting richer
!!!
ive tried for 2 weeks and i cant function without it
10 minute chimaerus kill, sounds like they need it who knows
wtf is a chimaerus
Lunar Calling
a new pokemon
yea i'm not sure i just woke up
innervate good button
is unlocking nightmare prey acc bound?
What you give up?
Ill be dead before pressing FoE in Kotg
got a bone to pick with you, the m+ ec build has rattle
giga griefed me

yeha rattle good
FACK RATTLE
it's the most cringe
of this tier
ngl
so yeah 1min it is
I'd like to use convoke but idk what to drop
maybe Chimaerus
Should def play convoke on Chimaerus
Just a question of how hard the adds will be on mythic
On Normal the pug I was in was having issues
probably kekkers raidleading
Hopefully the adds will be alive for more than 10s
and you actually have to kite them
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WW Fury MM and they just boom in .1
1m saladbar big
On lfr they live longer than my heroic run
Tracks
guess how many tier pieces dropped
2
25
0
0 leather tier from heroic and normal yipeeeee
how much % is 4pc tier set?
compendium
19%
Is there any good balance streamer in RWF?

god the brain rot man
goop, krona, canexx
I thought they were doing tuning for this next week but this looks like all ptr stuff for the next mini patch
โค๏ธ
What does this mean in simple terms. More dmg or less dmg?
Hello, Is it possible to cast the spells โFury of Eluneโ and โForce of Natureโ using a macro as the same time?
it is purely design change and clarification
no
Aha
they are both spells on the global cooldown and can not be pressed at the same time
12.0.5 isnt the next few weeks
we getting a nerf on meteorite ?
Nope. As Gamz answered above, it was blizzardโs way of clarifying the ability and a design change
I think meteorite has already been nerfed
100 - 30 = 70 * 2 = 140.... 140 > 100
how can you nerf something that is already dead?
Used to hit every single target when starfall drops per wave
the datamine icd for orbit breaker is sus
nah theres a reason for it
its the only way they could fix the 4pc bug 
What buff do we pick in academy? haste or mast?
mast
reroll dungeon
Which talent builds do you guys find success with in dungeons? I'm finding that Grove Keeper is more consistent DPS than elune
is it still tree first to see if group is potato or
can someone explain to me why moonfire sometimes applies to all mobs in AOE but alot of the time it misses one or two
it won't hit targets not in combat with you
and they are stacked ontop of each other
oh well it only hits 2 at a time
Does the renown trinket from Voidstorm get the bonuses inside the voidspire raid?
Moonfire only hits 2 targets.
oh thank you
Sunfire hits everything in range.
the bonus works in all raid/m+
is it worth reapplying moonfire/sunfire in the middle of CA/Incarn?
you generally want to re-dot first depending on how long its left
if you play ec with incarn it maybe doesnt matter as much but i havent checked
Which would do more overall damage in mid to high M+ keys, chicken or cat?
warlock
is the APL on sims correct or still need custom?
if i craft boots i want to craft the normal boots with a embellishment right and not the 1 stat boots?
what should boomkins be crafting this week with sparks? @lucid olive
i crafted staff





