#balance

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delicate perch
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I'd ping the writer and complain if I was you

jaunty blaze
delicate perch
jaunty blaze
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Both of them in fact

velvet raft
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Haha! All the time they put in already? Iโ€™m just grateful for what we have ๐Ÿ™‚

round field
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me when i tell my raidleader that bloodmallet promised me the trinket 3000 sims ago

jaunty blaze
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Jihad it is

lofty depot
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They could be making it up

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Wait til u see dreamgrove, mmhm

jolly delta
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Yes

lucid olive
lyric crystal
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tty :p

lucid olive
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direct people to keystone.guru website instead

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you can make routes inside the browser and copy the SimC code from there

lyric crystal
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ok thanks gamz

lucid olive
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it also handles waiting time between pulls better than the MDT sim weakaura did

lyric crystal
vale pebble
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or was 1week ago

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(or 2? i cant track time anymore)

pallid bay
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it just reuses the names of mobs

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according to him

lusty echo
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I did not because my gear is underconstruction right now, all of my gear is subject to change, I don't have any tier piece so the sims would be pretty complicated. I can't put all the possible gear I could get ๐Ÿ˜„

spice roost
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yes u can

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its called droptimizer or run multiple sims

vale pebble
pallid bay
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idk dnc ngl

vale pebble
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truth

lusty echo
spice roost
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if u cba spending 2$ sry

lusty echo
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And it doesn't stop the issue : how icyveins and wowhead classify the same trinket as S, or D. I'm curious about the explanation.

spice roost
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maybe try running mutple ones

spice roost
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there also written by different people

lusty echo
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We don't all live in the same country or economy. Thank you for your nice answers anyway ๐Ÿ™‚

dense steeple
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Freevpn to a cheaper country wcyd

vital swift
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guys are there any circumstances when we use force of nature with eclipse not CA/Incrarn

jolly delta
spice roost
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lol

lusty echo
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For some reason when i copy the text from simc, they don't suggest me the staff I crafted, any way of solving this ?

ivory barn
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is this worth? taking it to heroic?

lusty echo
spice roost
ruby badger
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Where did you read it would be a good idea to send a hero crest craft

jolly delta
spice roost
ivory barn
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isent it good? I dont get it. Why would that be a bad idea

jolly delta
spice roost
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mplus is out next and can use mythic crests to craft it to 285 saveing the heroic crests that would be watsed

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@ivory barn

ivory barn
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aha okei gotchaso i just wait for now then

ruby badger
spice roost
ivory barn
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Thank you

ruby badger
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You can craft with no crests if you want a weapon for the week

spice roost
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^

ivory barn
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allready done

spice roost
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then ya just use that til mythic crest upgrade

ivory barn
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Ait ait

pallid bay
craggy sonnet
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dmg is helpful for killing stuffs .. so checks out

maiden pasture
lusty echo
jolly delta
maiden pasture
pallid bay
jolly delta
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but no yeah you're right!!!

jolly delta
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it wasn't intentional though

pallid bay
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breaking the rules or advertising?

jolly delta
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wasn't intentional advertising just a friendly jab at raidbots

lusty echo
normal pilot
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there's an option to set how long it takes for you to get dispelled

tacit oriole
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I was using that trinket in heroic raid last night and I was wondering why I was getting randomly feared and no one else was. Then I started looking at my trinkets because it would only happy when I used my trinket. So I just replaced it with something thatโ€™s like a ~50 dps loss

sudden flame
spice roost
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lmfao

sudden flame
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there was thsi trinket in nerubar tier that stunned you if you didnt press the trinket again within its duration, and they hotfixed it when i was mid raid so you had to jump instead to clear it, so i was getting stunned like 5 times every pull

spice roost
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too funny

coral shell
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Does that count in the 600 limit per week?
or is it basically 2 free keys on top of the 6?

dreamy locust
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Is there anyway ingame to see tier sets fast?

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Used to be an item sets tab in journal and I dont see it anymore

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which would be a big L

royal zenith
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No to which part man

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Learn to answer questions!!

lofty depot
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No

spice roost
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haha

lofty depot
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I read first question

royal zenith
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Yeah exactly

lofty depot
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And it answers second

royal zenith
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Mr 50/50

coral shell
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Haha thank you, Read the pin!

lofty depot
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Mmhm mmhm

tacit oriole
fervent harbor
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So I will preface off by saying i am probably just bad at the calls.

Running delves with my wife last night (Ret Pally) almost same ilvl and i was getting smoked. Mostly in AOE trash. but even on ST it was rough to keep up.

I feel like i stuggle so much with the whole Lunar/Solar Cycle

spice roost
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i would judge performance from delves

normal pilot
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you can post a log maybe you're doing something fundamentally wrong

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also tehre is no such thing as solar/lunar cycle so maybe you have a misunderstanding somewhere

fervent harbor
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well the eclipse spell i mean when it is off of CD i try to make sure if i am AOE'ing i pop with Lunar and ST i pop when it is Solar

frail falcon
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yo do we have a trinket ranking somewhere ?

haughty sluice
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dreamgrove and wowhead both ahve

normal pilot
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that's not how eclipse works anymore

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lunar isn't 'aoe' and solar isn't 'st'

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it doens't matter which one you get you just press it for a dps gain like any other CD

fervent harbor
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ok if i cast wrath then eclipse doesnt it empower my wrath for the next 15 seconds or w/e

normal pilot
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sure but you don't think about solar or lunar. if you're casting wrath it will give you solar, if you're casting starfire because mobs are grouped it will give you lunar

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ther'es nothing to think about

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you don't purposefully enter lunar or solar you just press it lined up with the other CDs like any other CD

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it doesn't matter for starfall or starsurge what eclipse you're in, the only thing it really matters is for wrath or starfire

round field
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uhm

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and moonfire sunfire

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excuse you

normal pilot
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and since wrath and starfire auto adjust the eclipse, there's nothing to think about

carmine acorn
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i mean, on opener if its aoe you need to cast a starfire which has no travel time :p

fervent harbor
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So if I Eclipse regardless of the icon for said eclipse showing Lunar or Solar then the buff i get from casting it will empower both Wrath and Starfire

normal pilot
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no it will buff w/e filler you'd be casting for that situtation

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all you need to think about is if you'd wrath cuz it's ST, or starfire cuz mobs are grouped up, and that's it

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there's no further worrying about which eclipse you get, because that gets auto selected

fervent harbor
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yah i guess i get tossed up in a scenario where it is an AOE situation then swaps over to a ST. feel like i waste my eclipses then I am waiting on it to cooldown so i can get that window again

normal pilot
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it doesn't matter 15% on wrath is tiny

vital swift
normal pilot
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the ecipse flavor is largely just that, flavor

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both buff your spenders the same anyways

tacit oriole
haughty sluice
fervent harbor
maiden pasture
normal pilot
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all the actual benefits from eclipse are front loaded anyways. so if halfway thru you need to swap to the other filler you've already taken advantage of most of that eclipse

jaunty blaze
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There rarely are situations that demand a switch

carmine acorn
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I just noticed now Starfall is astral damage lol

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i was focusing way too much on lunar eclipse for starfall LOL

jaunty blaze
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It's somehow a common misconception from new players

carmine acorn
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im not a new player!!!

sly wadi
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Those new to reading tooltips then ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine acorn
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been balance druiding since vanilla (whenever i was not healing obviously), but raiding as balance since tbc xD

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it was not always astral ๐Ÿ˜ฎ or eclipse made a difference for it

normal pilot
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it's just a awful shitty job by dev re-designing a core class mechanic but keeping the name the same

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it's just gonna confuse ppl for no reason

jaunty blaze
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True

dusk coral
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about starfall, should we use on 2+ targets (kotg starweaver) with and without cosmos proc ? i need to be comfort

jaunty blaze
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Check what the guide says

frank vine
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hi guys, i have 2 questions that I haven't seen answered in compendium so I came here to ask; speaking specifically in a purely single target scenario

  1. ASCENDANT STARS - someone above stated that this proc should always be used for a free STARFIRE instead of wrath even in ST, is it because of additional AP generation? and is this even true?
  2. using procs of touch the cosmos, do we always use it for starfall even if we're in a purely ST scenario? and why is that so if it's true?
spiral spruce
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Switched from melee to ranged class , Balance Druid , for the first time. How fun is Balance compared to other ranged classes if you know?

dusk coral
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that's not really precise

lofty depot
jaunty blaze
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What's fun for me doesn't have to be fun for you

spiral spruce
# jaunty blaze That's subjective tbh

True but I do wanna know other peoples opinion , been looking and balance looks the most fun in terms of being able to cast spenders when you have to move from mechanics

lofty depot
jaunty blaze
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It's funnier than most of tww imo

normal pilot
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balance isn't the best for melee players to swap to. too much hard casting and no off-gcd movement

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it's better than before since more instants

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but mages have shimmer+block which is easier for melee players to adapt to

lofty depot
spiral spruce
lofty depot
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Balance didn't lose rotation buttons

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We gained some

spiral spruce
frosty laurel
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hi guys, after latest tuning what is best for m+ ? keeper or Elunes ?

spiral spruce
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Btw do you guys have any tips for a newly born Balance players? The only thing I've figured is that I forget to re-dot the bosses because I'm used to starfall extending the duration so I lose a lot of ST dps but I guess I'll learn to re-dot as I play along ๐Ÿคท

lucid olive
frank vine
craggy sonnet
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oh, it actually doesnt matter now .. huh

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unless they fix the ap double dip ๐Ÿ‘€

normal pilot
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it still double dips

light seal
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did people notice that on the delve boss. if you go in as dps spec and swap to tank and pull directly. the boss doesnt do the tank ability. making it free.

craggy sonnet
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yeah, i didnt think it was fixed .. but if they'd do it

glossy stream
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just learning balance, I have the 1.5m crit on use trinket and am wondering if I should hold my trinket a few seconds to wait for fury of elune to line up with incarn or hold fury a few seconds to get them all to line up, I'm guessing holding trinket but I'm sure it also matters how much I'm holding it

lofty depot
fervent harbor
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What (if any) profiles do you use for Cooldown Manager. I tried Luxthose and it is a little to much.

lofty depot
lucid olive
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i removed the addon stuff

round field
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lmao

craggy sonnet
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Gatekeeping

lucid olive
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is it

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there are so many addons out there that do the exact same things

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and if i start listing any then someone goes "BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE?"

round field
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just write something like

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"these are the addons i use"

lucid olive
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there's some stuff about addons in bottom of compendium

round field
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and then some slur as an answer to any potential questions

fervent harbor
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I see the link to Wago and a few UI reccoms

lucid olive
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oh yeah just the ui packs

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i'd read the Compendium stuff instead

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just copied in the same info from Compendium

sudden flame
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does that count as self promo sus

lucid olive
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you mean the part where i don't advertise myself

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yeah surely

uncut roost
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How much do I have to pay to get the UI pack

lucid olive
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theres loads of free UI packs on wago

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don't pay for world of warcraft addons

vagrant sequoia
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^ this

uncut roost
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But paid ones are better

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Why else would I pay for it!

obsidian tapir
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you ui pack was cool gamz

lofty depot
lucid olive
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just added in the stuff from compendium

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also added the faq back in compendium from here

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now just need to try and keep both updated simultaneously

lofty depot
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He wasn't going to

sudden flame
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i was just making a little joke anyway

lofty depot
sudden flame
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ya

sly wadi
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my dps gottem

lofty depot
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Feral damage

sudden flame
lofty depot
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It's a bear tier who cares

sudden flame
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im number one leather tier prio in my split

lofty depot
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So was I

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1 leather dropped

sudden flame
lofty depot
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Normal vaelgors I suppose

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Bing chillin

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News to do pvp this weekend and pray for vault

analog grail
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Does this translate to only starsurge outside of procs with starweaver?

junior thicket
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yo am i dumb or is there no stone to use the beacon on in atal aman

jaunty blaze
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wdym

junior thicket
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want to use my beacon for hero item

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but there is no stone lol

jaunty blaze
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there is one up there stairs

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near the boss area

spice roost
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the stone is the checkpoint where u get an extra life btw

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@junior thicket

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incase u were unsure

spice roost
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oh

junior thicket
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there is one out of bounds

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but u get tped back if u cross it

jaunty blaze
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hmm idk i know there was one near the stairs

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maybe im confusing it

junior thicket
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think imma just do the one in void storm

lyric crystal
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should we cahnge in raidbots the apl for simming?

pallid bay
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no

lyric crystal
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ok ty :p

frank vine
# lofty depot Yes

so we use starsurge even if there's, e.g. 8 targets or am i reading this incorrectly?

lofty depot
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That picture is from under it

frank vine
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im sorry, it just might be my confusion

lofty depot
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But no it's 3 targets unless u have weaver

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In which case u Starfall with weaver procs at any target

dire osprey
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3?

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so i wasnt supposed to starfall on the dragons oops

lucid olive
lofty depot
lucid olive
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the "unless starweaver" was mostly referring that you use starfall on 1 and 2 targets if you have procs

lofty depot
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It's like 1 or 2k diffy iirc

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Take meteor storm and slam like a chad

frank vine
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okay thank you, i thought i made gamz mad but i just didnt quite understand the part, sorry once again

quartz void
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What is best personal food?

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This season

lofty depot
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Probably depends on ur character. U can sim it

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Also, feasts have stamina on them, so ur using that for prog

spice roost
quartz void
lofty depot
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Well the actual stats are the same

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Personal food just doesn't have stam

lofty depot
spice roost
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ok

sacred ermine
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So question... I am struggling to stay alive while leveling through Midnight. Any tips? I have 0 issue on feral or guardian staying alive but for some reason bommkin just hurts

azure flume
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is there a major difference in dps between keeper of the grove and chosen of elune in raid?

lofty depot
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But play taunt trees and slam convoke prob

lofty depot
gloomy lance
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hello, any ideas how is boomkin scaling with better gear? I have just started M0 leaving heroic behind. It kinda feels very random to be able to pull some dmg

lofty depot
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Have CDs = do damage

safe kite
ivory barn
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Is there any good videos that show our raid rotation? slowly please hit me up

edgy quarry
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Hi guys ! I need some advice... how do u play on dragons (Valegor) heroics ?

Adds died instant, I tried to dot both but seeem to be a lost dps.... I tried this build

I'm a bit lot to be honest ^^'

patent mango
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guys whats the best simming for dungeon since balance dont support dgslice?

lofty depot
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its a prio list of things to do

lofty depot
lofty depot
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u can run meteor storm and slam starfall

vale pebble
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just starfall and sunfire if anything

lofty depot
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u dont need to dot them

vale pebble
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u can active mushrooms

lofty depot
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active mushroom was slamming true

vale pebble
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thats it tho nothing else matters

lofty depot
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dont sim aoe prob

patent mango
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how im supposed to know my top gear for aoe?

lofty depot
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ur not going to for a bit

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ull have to sim st and make some educated guesses

vale pebble
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its gonna do 50 moonfires in a row on all the targets in the dungeon

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๐Ÿฅ€

lofty depot
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100 count pull

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locken

edgy quarry
edgy quarry
lofty depot
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u can cast 3 starfalls in that timeframe and farm

edgy quarry
lofty depot
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read what meteor storm does

edgy quarry
vale pebble
lofty depot
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THIS IS NORMAL

normal pilot
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nerf balance

lucid olive
lofty depot
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stfu

vale pebble
lofty depot
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no dev

lucid olive
lofty depot
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or rather that dev is ugly

lucid olive
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same every tier

lusty echo
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All top parsers in raid have crucible of erratic energies, should we use that for now ? With which "upgrade" ?

edgy quarry
lofty depot
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it does good

vale pebble
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u dont pick one

edgy quarry
lucid olive
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All top parsers (rwf split alts) are using this trinket that you get for free? No way man

edgy quarry
vale pebble
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i meant the orbs u can sunfire

copper gate
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Did anyone else find the timing for cds awkward on salad bar? The proper opening felt a little too slow to fit in cds properly during the amp, think I only got it partially

edgy juniper
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i have a question. not a balance druid but this is an overall question. if someone said what site should they use to see whats pretty good for balance druid, guides, gear etc. which site would you use. wowhead or icyveins, if those were the only two options

lusty echo
lofty depot
vale pebble
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๐Ÿฅ€

lucid olive
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wthelly

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maxroll

vale pebble
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nince try

edgy juniper
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Then whats the point in those sites?

normal pilot
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clicks for $$

vale pebble
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$$

lofty depot
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u know the casuals that play the game for 2 hours a week

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its for them

vale pebble
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prob wowhead

edgy juniper
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ah. so both dont know what they are talking about?

vale pebble
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but just depends who writes the guide

edgy quarry
normal pilot
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no sometimes they have good info ya

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sometimes they don't

lucid olive
vale pebble
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u just need to know who writes them

edgy juniper
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so i have an example. on wowhead it shows the soul charm as like there worse trinket, and vessel is in A tier. but icyveins is the opposite.

normal pilot
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well if you care about that much accuracy you'd sim

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otherwise the difference isnt' big enough that you'd be way off

lofty depot
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vessel is good if u grab the orbs (ur not gonna grab them)

lucid olive
edgy quarry
lucid olive
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every trinket after that is purely placed off vibes

edgy juniper
lucid olive
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unfortunate

normal pilot
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sometimes one is more up to date

edgy quarry
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So If I resum :

I can play this bluid
one sun on voidorb

Do i care about doting both boss or not ??

normal pilot
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if you're basing your decision off guide site and tiers you shouldn't be caring this much about things. so waht if one trinket is B and one is A, it doesn't make that much diff

lofty depot
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why are u letting dots drop off

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what the helly

earnest sage
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is crafting staff the best first craft?

normal pilot
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the only way you're going to get more details is to sim your character

lofty depot
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yessem

edgy juniper
normal pilot
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it still doesnt' matter for the intended audience/content of those sites

lofty depot
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trust sim > trust silly people on the interent

normal pilot
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you won't do 15% less damage because you're using a D vs S

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they're just a quick answer for ppl ooking for an answer doesn't have to be always correct

edgy juniper
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if they both "sim" these set ups and items, how are the sims wildly different?

normal pilot
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everyone's sim is different

spice roost
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who said they did

normal pilot
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there is no such thing as a general 'sim'

lucid olive
spice roost
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true

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exactly

normal pilot
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just cuz someone simmed something on one character doesn't mean it applies to you

lucid olive
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"Trust me bro I simmed it" - the worlds least trustworthy person

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There are definitely some valuable stuff to read in both wowhead and icyveins guides

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Rotation, talent suggestions, crafting recommendations etc all have value

woven flint
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why go there when we have the compendium

lucid olive
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because Compendium doesnt cover everything

normal pilot
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sometimes they're also just out of date cuz the writer is busy/etc. but that's just the nature of written guides

lucid olive
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its better than video guide at least thats for sure

normal pilot
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ya videos are definitely worse

wicked shuttle
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videos just become outdated so easily

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i do think theyre good at showing people specific rotational stuff though

lucid olive
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yeah

tacit oriole
lucid olive
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they have value in explaining somewhat esoteric rotational complexities

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or to show like a complete basic version of the spec since that very rarely changes from season to season

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everything inbetween is volatile

wicked shuttle
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or rather was based on previously known information that has changed

lucid olive
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you probably mention in the video that we do shit dmg too

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then we copped 20% buff\

lofty depot
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pressing tree a bit wrong

lucid olive
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thank you T. Teevee Tettleton

sacred ermine
wicked shuttle
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ya we're back af

lofty depot
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but its fine.. if people want to see how u think its played they can take ideas from it

royal zenith
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uhhh

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what addon is used for simc command

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LMAO

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(I purged too much)

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@lofty depot hilfe

spice roost
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simulation craft

royal zenith
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oh full name?

lofty depot
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^

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YE

spice roost
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ya

royal zenith
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Ive installed that shit like

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6 years ago

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never looked back

pale dome
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Hmm im a bit confused about optimizing Eclipse. Do we just pop it on cd and take the downtime or is there like a trick to it?

lofty depot
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U will have downtime

normal pilot
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it's just a another CD, and like all CDs you optimize it by using it at teh correct time

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uptime/downtime doesnt' matter

lofty depot
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But yea, u use said CD when u can do the most damage with it

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U also don't want to be capped on charges

exotic perch
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try to always have a charge for trees (keeper)

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ngl the more i play this spec now i wish regular eclipse was axed

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and you just had like 4 charges of CA

trail vale
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is stat prio still mastery/haste?

royal zenith
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@lofty depot can you add sockets to items like in war within

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bruh why don't I know all of this

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I cant

lucid olive
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only with great vault at least

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there aren't any setting items for jewelry sockets

lofty depot
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^^

royal zenith
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check

lucid olive
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but wrists/belt/head can be socketed like usual

lofty depot
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All jewelry come with them

royal zenith
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and 1 other is for pvp items

lucid olive
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ye

royal zenith
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cringe!!

lucid olive
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all jewelry has a socket + some end boss jewelry have 2

last breach
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on ST is it better now with starweaver to actually starfall to fish to starsurge procs ?

lofty depot
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No

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U spend asp with surge, and u surge cosmos procs u less u meet the criteria to starfall

last breach
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so basically only starfall for a starweaver warp proc

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and pray for a positive feedback loop

lofty depot
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Ye

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There are plenty of times to Starfall in raid

last breach
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when is starfall > starsurge? 2 or 3 targets?

weary mantle
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Hey everyone, quick question, is it worth it to spend Hero Crests on a crafted weapon? If yes, which one?

lofty depot
last breach
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so on dragon boss with 2 targets u still just starsurge one of them

lofty depot
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Ye, until the orbs come out

last breach
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seems weird compared to other seasons, but l guess sims dont lie ๐Ÿ˜„

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thx a lot !

lofty depot
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New season, new problems

last breach
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true

maiden pasture
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Don't trust big sim

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Play as your heart desires

lofty depot
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That's what goop said

#

If it feels good, it is good

maiden pasture
#

You know what doesn't feel good

#

Wrath outside of eclipse when you play the fury of elune cd reduction hero talent

exotic perch
#

must stand inbetween and starfall spam

lofty depot
#

Need to pool asap for orb drops

exotic perch
#

the true padder strat

lofty depot
#

What if orbital strike was a 1m cd

royal zenith
#

gonna ask another basic question

lone root
#

Hey is it just me or this expansion have a lot of "group of monster" that actually are not all linked together ? I feel like when i moonfire things (delves/world content), the spread doesnt work cuz the other ennemy is not in fight with me. Am i going crazy orrr

royal zenith
#

do we know what tier is offpiece

lofty depot
#

Gloves

royal zenith
lofty depot
#

Read the guide dork

exotic perch
#

stupid hands

royal zenith
#

I was

exotic perch
#

not good enough for us

royal zenith
#

ctrl + f'd

#

took to long

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

but then again that guy who writes dreamgrove.gg is way worse than wowhead

#

so what could I have expected amirite

lofty depot
lone root
lofty depot
#

Sunfire first

drifting nova
#

is ec in raid dead?

lone root
#

Guess it was too hard for them to code ennemies in group instead of each indivudual unit in a group of other individual units zzz

lofty depot
#

Moons tech is coming

lofty depot
wild dune
#

hidden tech from the boomie mods

lofty depot
#

I'm not a mod

lofty depot
#

But EC got bug fixed, soooooo

lofty depot
lone root
#

I mean yeah i guess

royal zenith
#

okay but gamz

#

why are we pressing eclipse, ca, foe, trees

#

spenders

#

TOO MANY BUTTONS

wild dune
lofty depot
#

So that's in the wrong order, smh

royal zenith
#

true

fiery plinth
#

Is the talent build on Wowhead still good for raid or is it changed after patch

neat cairn
#

Guys I have raid in 1 hour how big is the difference between ec and cotg for raid?

lofty depot
#

There are many fights with different styles

lofty depot
covert coyote
neat cairn
lucid olive
#

you can play whatever talents you want to play

lofty depot
#

I also just played incarn on most cuz convoke boring

#

I'm trying to machinegun

modest wagon
grave agate
#

why does my eclipse lunar in this talent build?

#

I cant seem to find a solar one

#

in the same build on wowhead in opener it's solar

lofty depot
neat cairn
lofty depot
#

Press wrath = solar
Press Starfire = lunar mmhmm

lucid olive
#

cause it does more dmg than the alternative

neat cairn
royal zenith
#

do we have the item id's for pots?

gaunt ruin
#

Balance is feeling quite ok. Better than I expected. With 250 ilvl in m0 content does good compared to other dps. Curious how it feels in bigger keys where mobs survive more

royal zenith
#

or nah

ornate girder
#

yea one sec deux

#

/use item:245898
/use item:245897
/use item:241308
/use item:241309

royal zenith
ornate girder
#

fleetings + regulars

ivory barn
#

Like when do we cast convoke? with everything else?

#

it sso confusing

grave agate
#

this is not good

royal zenith
ornate girder
#

npnp

lucid olive
#

use cooldown together with other cooldown

ivory barn
#

Thanks

#

Gamz you have some rotation line up somewere ? i dont see it on wowhead

#

Nvm found it

lucid olive
#

good job

ornate girder
#

also i have joined the train, kotg way better than ec

lofty depot
#

Having the correct opinion does feel good

ivory barn
#

not in m+ tho?

lofty depot
#

Good thing m+ is out and doesn't matter

ivory barn
#

:p

acoustic flicker
lofty depot
#

Warcraftlogs

lucid olive
#

warcraftlogs

lofty depot
#

Slow

grave agate
#

do we still track starlord stacks? I cant seem to get them on default ui

lyric stag
#

@lucid olive

#

hey man just wanted to say im a big fan of your work

#

and I think u are what the kids are calling poggers

lucid olive
lyric stag
#

a guy cant appreciate his pal regardless of the class he is playing?

normal pilot
#

all anyone can see is purple

#

forever tainted

lucid olive
#

class tribalism is real

lyric stag
#

this hatred was not so strong when I was light blue ๐Ÿ™

sour rampart
lucid olive
#

you were mage because moonkin was bad

sour rampart
#

@lofty depot

lucid olive
#

now hippo moonkin ๐Ÿ’”

sour rampart
#

My raider snitched on you

lyric stag
#

hippo is cat dude

lucid olive
lyric stag
#

its not fair

honest musk
#

How can I track this with ingame cooldown manager?

lofty depot
#

Go look at my character

sour rampart
#

@frosty raven I have cut ties with Arctic

analog grail
#

Is the crucible trinket actually good? It out sims everything I've got but don't see it on any lists.

lucid olive
#

when Starlord is at 3 stacks you dont have ascendant eclipse stacks

bronze creek
#

yo guys is it boomie szn?

normal pilot
upbeat bridge
#

is there anyway to have a shift mod macro with eclipse? It just seems to bug out for me when it swaps between solar and lunar eclipse

normal pilot
#

wdym bug out you'll need to be more specific

#

it's a single button there's no casting one or the other

upbeat bridge
#

So like this

#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift]Fury of Elune; Solar Eclipse

#

It doesn't work once it changes to lunar but there doesn't seem to be a way to include both in one?

drifting nova
#

is there a st ec build yet?

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

Also why r we modding those to each other

upbeat bridge
normal pilot
#

you might not be able to with how the dev coded it

#

there's a hidden buff that changes teh button but you can't acces that so

#

you can bugpost it and maybe they'll take a look at it

upbeat bridge
#

ah ok thanks

sour rampart
normal pilot
#

seems a bit odd to put 2 short lenght cds on the same key

dense steeple
sour rampart
#

Lmao

dense steeple
#

I was being a dickhead cause I was already mad about some inconsequential shit and fought him on semantics

#

#reformed

lofty depot
#

Stand on business

dense steeple
#

Nah i was being an asshole

#

Had to make it right

midnight bay
#

guys one question
at chosen elune build you enter lunar eclipse before incarn on opener or enter first on incarn and then use the moons separately?

loud pagoda
#

Hey peeps what do we think of this trinket?

lofty depot
karmic python
#

Just looking through the raid logs is pretty grimโ€ฆare these post buff as well? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

grave agate
#

starfall is 2+ targets in raid?

midnight bay
#

ok but on the raid boss of generals that you go chosen elune on logs they are doing different of the guides
on the guides they say on opener you should enter lunar eclipse and after go incarn
but they are going twice lunar eclipse and when it finish they enter incarn
how should i do it?

faint kindle
#

Some form of a buff should be on table soon

normal pilot
#

why do you say it's grim?

#

seems pretty on par avg for blizz standards

lofty depot
grave agate
lofty depot
#

Think it's 3 regardless

#

I need to find the sim

lofty depot
#

And u get a 12% buff with tier when others get like 4

#

We're gonna blast just u wait

#

(surely)

snow elm
#

Is tuning going to be announced Saturday?

lofty depot
#

Probably Friday at 6pm again

silent sonnet
#

Is there any way currently to play a sound say when eclipse have 2 seconds left of its duration or is that kinda functionality all gone?

lofty depot
#

I think u can tts it, but I find making sounds on shit for rotational things silly. U can track the icon with number on it, u can change ur asp bar to change colors at the end of eclipse.

drifting nova
#

you will enjoy the dark ages

silent sonnet
#

Well I'm a bit of an audible learner i guess so i prefer it that way.

honest musk
#

Is there a way to track free starfall/starsurge procs similar to weakauras?

#

I can't find relevant buff in cdm

worthy mesa
#

yo guys is it a big difference if i go elune insteed of grove for st target raid?

lofty depot
worthy mesa
lofty depot
#

Just play less proc build?

worthy mesa
#

Could you provide me one that would be good for st in raid but not have so much stuff to track please?

primal patrol
#

do we just run generally the same talents for every boss fight? or are there any fights were the build changes?

lofty depot
#

If u don't like Incarn, play convoke

lofty depot
lofty depot
#

There's no correct build

#

If u want builds people are running, look at warcraft logs

jolly delta
#

we're cooking

ornate girder
#

๐Ÿณ

honest musk
midnight bay
#

ok but on the raid boss of generals that you go chosen elune on logs they are doing different of the guides
on the guides they say on opener you should enter lunar eclipse and after go incarn
but they are going twice lunar eclipse and when it finish they enter incarn
how should i do it?

lofty depot
#

This is week 1 vibe trying shit

#

Not everything is perfect, not everything is planned out

formal crest
midnight bay
#

okok

reef ocean
lofty depot
#

Ok go find it

formal crest
#

When a tier starts, no. Not really

#

Milk duds

reef ocean
lofty depot
#

Not mine either

#

I just yap

drifting nova
#

vaelgor nerf when VerySadCat

sonic surge
#

grab best performing druids raid talents for fight while walking to raid boss
bro is using kotg with kotg and has treants, convoke and fury of elite

My treants hotkey is also my fury of elune hotkey.

Have to drag fury of elune from spell journal to empty slot on bar and click it for whole fight.

formal crest
#

Grow up kekkers

sonic surge
#

God I fucking hate this shit already was using my one unbound key for fucking eclipse because the fucking class dev thought it was a good idea to make it a cooldown

lofty depot
#

?

#

What did u bind to renewal?

stone ledge
#

Who puts fury on trees key. Thatโ€™s obviously where warrior went

sonic surge
#

No renewal is bound to hotw

lofty depot
#

What is bound to vigil?

sonic surge
#

Warrior is on my convoke key

lofty depot
#

Lol

#

Warrior is ur trees key

#

Cuz u know they share a node

#

Fury is ur moons key, cuz u know they share a ndoe

#

It seems like we are making bad choices

sonic surge
#

I didnt bind vigil it was macroed to incarn cuz my raid leader didnt give a fuck about it

lofty depot
#

Flare bind..... Is available just wait til u have to press mushroom

jolly delta
undone solstice
#

New to Balance druid, always been a healer. Any beginners tips?

lofty depot
#

Read the guide

lofty depot
#

Or guides

drifting nova
undone solstice
lofty depot
#

Don't do that, those people are cringe

undone solstice
sonic surge
#

Dreamgrove

undone solstice
#

Cheers!

sonic surge
#

Idk who's making good video guides nowadays. I liked naguura when I was new to the spec

lofty depot
undone solstice
lofty depot
#

Video guides get out dated 12 minutes after posted this early in the season

#

We find new things, buffs happen, raid needs change.

sonic surge
#

Btw arctic did u craft weapon

lofty depot
#

yes

sonic surge
#

Im on the fence of crafting since every int class already crafted for my raid

#

Means if mh oh drop i would win default

lofty depot
#

There's no staff until last boss

#

U gonna go through all raid without a mythic weapon

#

Sounds cringe

#

Always hated mh/oh crafts early

sonic surge
#

U meant veteran?

lofty depot
#

Crest efficiency>

sonic surge
#

How u getting mythic this week

lofty depot
#

I didn't say I was, but next week we're getting it

sonic surge
#

Hmm good point

#

Thats a really good point actually. Thanks arctic

#

@lofty depot whose ui are u using btw? Realised during raid the one im using is kinda bad. Considering switching to gamz

#

Did oi ever end up releasing one?

#

Dsune

lofty depot
#

Some imagination of gamz old cdm, random bullshit I fixed on trb, and atrocities old elv.profile.kek

sonic surge
#

What's trb

lofty depot
#

Twintops resource bar

sonic surge
#

Also is there anyway to get details to reset in new dungeons for overall dps?

lofty depot
#

Sune has his in m33kauras

#

Idk details is fucked

sonic surge
#

Wtf is m33kauras

#

New addon?

#

Where do I find sune's stuff

lofty depot
#

Weakauras but not

sonic surge
#

Ive always liked his setups

lofty depot
#

Go to the searchbar and look up his name

vital hound
#

whats a good dungo for leg farm

late dragon
#

okay guys. I have a problem with Chimaerus. After intermission my convoke almost ignore boss

#

does anyone know how to fix that?

sudden pawn
#

ya swap to incarn

late dragon
#

thats not my fault, just bug?

sudden pawn
#

ya

late dragon
#

thx

lofty depot
#

Playing convoke on not st boss, smh

#

But yea, is bugged lol

loud kettle
#

Miserable for feral who has no relevant alternative

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

balance is trash

dense steeple
#

@lofty depot do you like my cabbage?

loud kettle
#

Turns out when ur cooldown just doesnt work u do a lot less dmg

#

Check healing

drifting nova
#

can the dragon fight be less long wtf

lofty depot
lofty depot
#

That's a banger

loud kettle
#

Only 7 casts too whaddafrick

lofty depot
#

Yea idk

#

Was gonna go look at some random feral logs and see how many were missing casts

#

Cuz it's not only not casting damage, but not casting at all

magic light
#

yo gamers just got a delve bounty map, does it matter which tier i use it on?

lofty depot
#

8+

magic light
#

ty

timid rover
#

Hey guys, if I use an enchantment on the crafted staff, will I need to enchant it again when I get it re-crafted with hero crests?

winter tapir
#

no and only recraft with myth crests

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
#

what

timid rover
#

Ahh true

dense steeple
covert coyote
dense steeple
#

Is that a challenge

jolly delta
#

Does anyone know if using Archon's app is the only way to upload logs?

normal pilot
#

there's the old school non-datamining(that we know of) app

jolly delta
#

cant find it

#

well I guess only thing left is to prayge someone records for me

wind ridge
#

what're people using to track Ascendant fires procs and Starweaver's warp procs?

shell cove
#

are we supposed to have 4 sparks this week?

#

to make 2 hander or next week

lofty depot
#

yes

wind ridge
#

ya I went into the cd settings and see them all there. my b shoulda looked prior to askin

#

ty tho arctic

normal pilot
#

oh maybe they're hiding it. idk i have it installed from somewhere

jolly delta
normal pilot
#

it still auto updates so they're at least still maintaining it

wooden relic
#

proccing starweaver back-to-back-to-back actually feels hella nice

jolly delta
primal patrol
#

See lot of people running rattle the stars vs starweaver, what have you guys been enjoying?

jolly delta
#

i installed addons manually for years because i didnt want to touch curse with a 10 ft pole

normal pilot
jolly delta
#

yeah theres also a version on the aur

pallid bay
normal pilot
#

oh did htey move teh standaloen to overwolf also

cloud lion
#

how do u track starweaver or am i that dumb

lofty depot
#

u go into your cdm and look the for starweaver warp and weft buffs

drifting nova
#

that is all

wind quartz
#

I want a warning when a heal whispers me with innervate
Had a WA before, is there any other way or addon to do this?

pallid bay
#

and yeah standalone uses the same

#

idk much more than that

#

and that there was network traffic to ow

normal pilot
#

unlucky

#

at least you only need to run it to upload then exit i guess

#

can vm if you care that much

#

wait this sounds like theyr'e still tlaking about their app not hte old uploader

primal patrol
#

Do we just sent the 2nd CA/incarn charge back to back at the start of a fight?

sonic surge
#

anyone know why my chat in Elvui disappeared after installing GamzUi without the elvui profile?

#

i see its enabled in elvui, not sure whats going on

cunning bronze
#

What build do you prefer in delves?

loud kettle
#

Retribution

#

deserved

lofty depot
viscid rampart
#

if I have 250 staff with haste/mastery, is it better to upgrade the staff fully to 263 and craft something else than staff?

lucid olive
#

depends what difficulty content you do

#

but you should probably still craft a staff

viscid rampart
#

As high m+ as possible

#

OK

lucid olive
#

theres still 2 weeks before you even have the chance for a myth track weapon if you're an m+er

viscid rampart
#

True! ty

hard trellis
#

Weird question for yโ€™all, sorry if itโ€™s been asked before, is convoke bugged on chimaerus for you guys too? Or just feral.

#

Been at work all day and just heard

lucid olive
#

yes

glacial steeple
#

What's wrong with it?

hard trellis
#

Noted, Ty. just didnโ€™t want to spread the word to my other druids in guild

lucid olive
#

Convoke the Spirits is currently bugged on Chimaerus. After the intermission it will just perma cast non-balance spells. PLAY INCARNATION FOR THAT BOSS

royal zenith
#

Im on to you buddy

jaunty blaze
#

ethical pad

glacial steeple
#

Bet ty handsome Gamz

jaunty blaze
#

you are required by law to pad now

royal zenith
#

like holding coolies for shitter adds?!

#

WEEWOOO

jaunty blaze
#

yes sir

royal zenith
glacial steeple
#

That's padding? I thought that's how we play the spec

royal zenith
#

Im just messing tbf

#

pad away

glacial steeple
#

Thank goodness

drowsy trench
#

how much haste are we good at the beginning? i've seen on raidbots that it asks me to change a lot of equipment pieces for mastery/crit.

normal pilot
#

no such thing as good haste

royal zenith
#

and why would that be a bad thing?

normal pilot
#

just wear what gives you more dps

jaunty blaze
#

do not trust big sim

glacial steeple
#

Stack haste and mastery

#

Get crit from passives

jaunty blaze
#

why are we making up stats we need up now

drowsy trench
#

so do you recommend crafting a staff haste/mastery ?

glacial steeple
#

Stack Multistrike

lucid olive
#

sure

glacial steeple
#

Naw but haste mastery seems legit

drowsy trench
#

and having a hero versa/mastery staff, do you also recommend spending hero crests on crafting a staff?

jaunty blaze
#

no

royal zenith
#

if you're crafting a staff and want to upgrade it, wait till you have enough myth crests (with upgrading)

jaunty blaze
#

craft the staff with sparks only and recraft it next week with myth crests

royal zenith
#

wouldn't waste hero crests now either way

#

cause next week m+ opens

drowsy trench
#

kk thx guys

stone ledge
#

Wonder if the convoke bug makes resto Druids cast balance spells lmao

jaunty blaze
#

Resto blasting???

royal zenith
#

for some reason it was never reversed bugged

astral pike
glacial steeple
#

it's just on Chimerius that it's bugged right?

lucid olive
#

unless you find somewhere else

glacial steeple
#

Cool, I'm just gonna run incarn

sonic surge
#

anyone know how to make ayjiecdm announce when dps pot is off cd?

lucid olive
#

dont think you can do that

sonic surge
#

currently thanks to gamz i am tracking it via the racials tab "manage spells"

sonic surge
hasty mirage
#

is there an addon replacement for the innervate notification weakaura?

drifting nova
#

why are you specced into innervate?

drifting nova
#

those funny boost pots are nuts

#

the 600 stat ones

#

almost makes me a real dps

stuck willow
#

Any way to see your eclipse left+right of your screen like it use to be with spell activation overlay on. Before the cd manager?

lucid olive
#

no

stuck willow
#

Sad :< guess its reroll time

lofty depot
#

rich getting richer

royal zenith
#

!!!

stuck willow
#

ive tried for 2 weeks and i cant function without it

hasty mirage
drifting nova
quiet drift
#

Lunar Calling

royal zenith
#

a new pokemon

hasty mirage
#

yea i'm not sure i just woke up

drifting nova
#

so cringe the dragon boss that doesnt share hp

#

nerf wen

royal zenith
#

also based @quiet drift

#

๐Ÿค

lucid olive
drifting nova
#

is unlocking nightmare prey acc bound?

glacial steeple
#

What you give up?

quiet drift
drifting nova
#

giga griefed me

lucid olive
#

yeha rattle good

drifting nova
#

FACK RATTLE

royal zenith
#

of this tier

#

ngl

#

so yeah 1min it is

quiet drift
#

Prolly only playing that Convoke build

#

Vorasius

drifting nova
#

I'd like to use convoke but idk what to drop

quiet drift
#

maybe Chimaerus

glacial steeple
#

Should def play convoke on Chimaerus

quiet drift
#

Just a question of how hard the adds will be on mythic

glacial steeple
#

On Normal the pug I was in was having issues

lucid olive
#

probably kekkers raidleading

glacial steeple
#

110^

#

110%

quiet drift
#

Hopefully the adds will be alive for more than 10s

#

and you actually have to kite them

#

๐Ÿ™

#

WW Fury MM and they just boom in .1

lofty depot
nova ocean
#

On lfr they live longer than my heroic run

glacial steeple
#

Tracks

sudden flame
lofty depot
#

2

royal zenith
#

25

lucid olive
#

0

sudden flame
#

0 leather tier from heroic and normal yipeeeee

real flax
#

how much % is 4pc tier set?

lucid olive
#

compendium

glacial steeple
#

19%

calm island
#

Is there any good balance streamer in RWF?

sudden pawn
lofty depot
#

god the brain rot man

lucid olive
merry ibex
#

I thought they were doing tuning for this next week but this looks like all ptr stuff for the next mini patch

calm island
tender elbow
#

What does this mean in simple terms. More dmg or less dmg?

lucid olive
#

none of them

#

that is from PTR

#

damage tuning does not matter for PTR

glacial violet
#

Hello, Is it possible to cast the spells โ€œFury of Eluneโ€ and โ€œForce of Natureโ€ using a macro as the same time?

lucid olive
#

it is purely design change and clarification

tender elbow
lucid olive
#

they are both spells on the global cooldown and can not be pressed at the same time

lofty depot
#

12.0.5 isnt the next few weeks

vernal hare
#

we getting a nerf on meteorite ?

tender elbow
nimble tangle
#

I think meteorite has already been nerfed

lofty depot
drifting nova
#

how can you nerf something that is already dead?

nimble tangle
#

Used to hit every single target when starfall drops per wave

ripe slate
#

the datamine icd for orbit breaker is sus

lucid olive
#

its the only way they could fix the 4pc bug ICANT

ripe slate
#

LOL

#

thats what that is huh

cunning bronze
#

What buff do we pick in academy? haste or mast?

lucid olive
#

mast

drifting nova
#

reroll dungeon

smoky hollow
#

Which talent builds do you guys find success with in dungeons? I'm finding that Grove Keeper is more consistent DPS than elune

drifting nova
#

is it still tree first to see if group is potato or

high finch
#

can someone explain to me why moonfire sometimes applies to all mobs in AOE but alot of the time it misses one or two

normal pilot
#

it won't hit targets not in combat with you

high finch
#

and they are stacked ontop of each other

normal pilot
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oh well it only hits 2 at a time

calm island
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Does the renown trinket from Voidstorm get the bonuses inside the voidspire raid?

analog moat
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Moonfire only hits 2 targets.

high finch
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oh thank you

analog moat
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Sunfire hits everything in range.

normal pilot
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the bonus works in all raid/m+

high finch
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is it worth reapplying moonfire/sunfire in the middle of CA/Incarn?

lucid olive
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you generally want to re-dot first depending on how long its left

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if you play ec with incarn it maybe doesnt matter as much but i havent checked

tardy mesa
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Which would do more overall damage in mid to high M+ keys, chicken or cat?

lucid olive
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warlock

red nymph
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is the APL on sims correct or still need custom?

fiery veldt
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if i craft boots i want to craft the normal boots with a embellishment right and not the 1 stat boots?

high finch
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what should boomkins be crafting this week with sparks? @lucid olive

lucid olive
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i crafted staff

normal pilot
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yo huge balance buff

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dryad's dance properly gives 10% ap to fon in 12.0.5

glacial steeple
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Hot daffodil

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(because we are druids)