#balance
dawn surge
also am i just giga griefing by going EC in raid? im not really experienced using keeper and im not gonna be raiding seriously on my druid but i also dont wanna be doing 20% less dmg than i should
im fine doing like 5% less or something
jaunty blaze
If you're casually raiding its fine
dawn surge
i did it quick 
round field
not quick enough
i mean if ur raiding casually its whatever
onl paper theyre close
but in practice ec just kinda sucks in raid scenarios
spice roost
i see people using it on h 3 pally fight
vital hound
ec does a lot of dam on paladins
ya
idk about mythic but norm/heroic you can payphone that fight
spice roost
ya
slender island
tuning aside, main argument against EC in raid is usually bc starfire is a long cast which sucks for mobility, but touch and starweaver helps to mitigate that significantly
vital hound
a lot of it
jaunty blaze
Does it tho
slender island
cleared yesterday as EC full time and it felt alright
dawn surge
is starweaver vs rattle a big dmg difference assuming i minimize movement?
im generally good at positioning ahead so movement shouldnt be too big of an issue for me
jaunty blaze
Most talents are close to each other in dmg
spice roost
welcome to boomie where 80% of our talents are close in damage
zealous otter
This trinket isnt mentioned in the Compendium. Is it that trash or forgotten/just hard to sim?
vital hound
welcome to boomie where 80% of our talents are close in damage
welcome to wow
jolly delta
also am i just giga griefing by going EC in raid? im not really experienced usin...
Playing EC gonna lead to -20%
dull dust
-100 aura
jaunty blaze
This trinket isnt mentioned in the Compendium. Is it that trash or forgotten/jus...
Idk how well it sims but most ppl complain the souls are hard to see/collect
jolly delta
If you're not good enough to play KoTG you're probably also not good enough to avoid 30% cancelled starfire casts
dawn surge
well its less about skill and moreso that i dont wanna invest the effort to learn it since its my alt
ive just never really had to play it
i usually do m+ only
so ive always played EC
jolly delta
Go 1 button rotation
dawn surge
aight ill try out kotg
jolly delta
no but you just enable the cd assistant and you press them when they light up
dawn surge
yolo how bad can it be
jaunty blaze
I think cds you need to do yourself
spice roost
ah i see
jolly delta
yolo how bad can it be
The prio list makes it sound more scary than it really is
But in practice it's just "cast stuff on CD as long as it aligns"
and "spend procs"
royal zenith
(pretty much like any other caster/class in this game)
jaunty blaze
It's almost the same but you cast wrath instead
jaunty blaze
Electronic cash
royal zenith
jolly delta
deux thoughts on the new compendium revamp
pallid bay
whats different..
jolly delta
whats different..
smh....
still iris
you guys crafting weapon with hero crests this week or upgrade next week with gilded?
jolly delta
you guys crafting weapon with hero crests this week or upgrade next week with gi...
no crests + upgrading
jaunty blaze
Not hero crests
safe kite
never hero crests
still iris
kk, ty
jaunty blaze
Natty sparks only
still iris
and I could get my 2 set now when I use my transform, should I go for it or wait my weekly?
safe kite
Natty sparks only
Always resist when offered PEC at your local dreamgrove
jaunty blaze
😔
safe kite
Hold it
because if you catalyst into a piece you then get in your vault you will be sad
dawn surge
The prio list makes it sound more scary than it really is
ok last time i looked at kotg the treants were 45s and thats a big part of what threw me off lmao, treants being 1 min makes it way easier
still iris
true
best case I get my 4 set next week, worst case in 2 weeks
2nd catalyst + probably we will get a token again when we go for heroic last boss or m+10?
jolly delta
ok last time i looked at kotg the treants were 45s and thats a big part of what ...
I mean they still are if you play inc
jaunty blaze
You get a charge yes
safe kite
2k rating, aotc or 1600 rating gives you one charge.
safe kite
so essentially unless you get ridiculously unlucky in vault you need to get one piece of tier set from the raid
royal zenith
deux thoughts on the new compendium revamp
Looks cleaner
still old skool look though
personally I think you can also make buttons like these stand out more
color the icon or make it more obvious it's drop-down etc.
jolly delta
who do you think I am, a designer???
royal zenith
hell yeah
jolly delta
royal zenith
the design itself rn is pretty much a copy/design from how it used to be
in my humble opinion, you should be allowed to venture into more fun and better things...
but that's up to you guys
jolly delta
the design itself rn is pretty much a copy/design from how it used to be
I wouldnt go that far
royal zenith
I should be more specific: the style
the design is dif ye
it's a lot better than how it used to be
subjective ofc
dawn surge
I mean they still are if you play inc
wat how
jaunty blaze
What is that legion
loud kettle
Shadowlands
dawn surge
also ty for moving me to play kotg i already got a 77 parse on the 1st boss no idea wtf im doing
dawn surge
ok so do i hold it for 15s or rip it? assuming i have incarn up
assuming hold it since u said to line them up earlier
jolly delta
To be completely honest the APL just seems to be sending both treants and foe on CD
I am not 100% sure if this is intended or missing a couple of conditions because reasons
dull dust
jolly delta
That said, sending everything on CD always is like a marginally worse than optimal rotation
So you can't go wrong
royal zenith
I think you just align coolies in actual raid environment
dull dust
yeah same
jolly delta
I would suspect so too but I'm not sure why the APL doesnt do it
royal zenith
and in a 5 minute fight on ST, standing still, sending everything on cd just marginally loss
or within threshold
kinda interesting though
just confirms my thoughts on shit mattering so lil
better to focus on good placement of your manual shrooms during add cleave...
dull dust
never trust big sim
vale pebble
good times
truthnuke
jaunty blaze
Buy the ui
dull dust
or rather actually read the line that says this isnt a guide how to play ur character
jaunty blaze
What the helly
dawn surge
So you can't go wrong
sounds good ty i appreciate the help!
jolly delta
or rather actually read the line that says this isnt a guide how to play ur char...
but surely if playing differently gives different results then sim could be higher
royal zenith
or rather actually read the line that says this isnt a guide how to play ur char...
unless..
jolly delta
just confirms my thoughts on shit mattering so lil
"garbage" is basically no APL
so if you factor variance in....
worn sail
Druids with 4 tier set and the recent buff
IS INSANE!!
infinite AP and spam starfall
THIS IS CRAZY!!
worn sail
i did LFR and normal and cleared 3 bosses on HC
got my full tier set
i'm having a blast
spice roost
i cant wait
royal zenith
glad you're having fun
royal zenith
this loss is so minimal
gg's bamkin proper dead
and people complain about an extra button to press 😭
worn sail
its like warrior of elune
for insta starfire
the eclipse
its useless anyway
since u spam AP
worn sail
yeh
jaunty blaze
Only thing about s3 was executing your cd windows correctly
royal zenith
@dull dust does APL want you to cast moonfire/sunfire before sending cd's
spice roost
ya but that was somethign i had issues with ther double ca thing but thats gone
royal zenith
how big is the loss if you don't do that
spice roost
meddy?
maiden pasture
the lil dungeon res bot
spice roost
oh
lucid olive
Pixal was killing trash in m0 
jaunty blaze
Rwf players skipping too much
royal zenith
@lucid olive can you answer my question
thought you were sleeping
cause it's during the day...
spice roost
Pixal was killing trash in m0 <:PepePoint:672501150741823496>
blame bad pugs
lucid olive
<@241331846338576387> does APL want you to cast moonfire/sunfire before sending ...
Sunfire yes not Moonfire
royal zenith
Interesting
so if I would theoratically want to frontload my damaguur
I could also just not cast dots
lucid olive
thought you were sleeping
Season started sleep schedule good now (I had dentist app at 8am yesterday)
royal zenith
🤝
lucid olive
Interesting
The point is to not waste globals refreshing dots inside your CDs
royal zenith
yeah I'm just thinking of situations where adds live like a few seconds
definitely not for padding purposes
hehe..
spice roost
lol
royal zenith
with the mastery change and all
I dunno, dot's a nice-to-have in practical situations
we'll see
advice should always be cast before anyway
jaunty blaze
Shooting stars piping tho
royal zenith
in terms of playing spec properly
jolly delta
numbers slightly skewed cause I have weird ahh consumables
spice roost
dont they also proc shooting stars so thats more valuable with 2set ya
lucid olive
Who knows
vale pebble
dont u work remote
royal zenith
bloodmallet 
royal zenith
Im being lied to!
spice roost
hmm should i run active mushrooms on twin dragons?
lucid olive
update bloodmallet profile
Why
dull dust
10seconds even
jolly delta
what if you change sim to
60s
royal zenith
okay convinced
dull dust
jolly delta
This is 30s
royal zenith
it should be less loss the shorter the burst
theoratically
so yeah
there's still pad potential
I'd be surprised any adds will live longer than 20 seconds anyway
unless big phat one spawned
in raid that is
jolly delta
I mean clearly this tells nothing about that
dull dust
lord knows what hp mythic adds will have
jolly delta
You'd want a sim no CDs no nothing etc
dull dust
just stand where smallies spawn and proc a instant starfire
and mabey die
but worth
royal zenith
stand in the middle of the motes spawning
so you can bait breath on top of the group
royal zenith
oh I was baiting that, terrible rng...
spice roost
cant wait to get 4p and beat frost mages since they gain nothing hardly from tier
iirc the tier set is like 1 or 2% for them
dull dust
sorry u wont beat this absolute monster
dawn surge
did salhadaar normal, topped the dmg meter and the wraps trinket dropped, the 23k dps devourer DH wins the roll :D
dull dust
my raidleader told me he wants mage
jolly delta
Wtf chancel isn't a boomie???
Neither am I
dawn surge
gg
dull dust
jolly delta
gg
jaunty blaze
spice roost
did salhadaar normal, topped the dmg meter and the wraps trinket dropped, the 23...
imagine rolling
jaunty blaze
Neither am I
Nice expert gg...
safe kite
my raidleader told me he wants mage
I have to play a hunter. It's very sad
spice roost
hahahah
jaunty blaze
spice roost
watch us get buffed in tuning on tuesday that would be so funny
safe kite
I've had to spend the first raid days screaming about how i fucked the tanks mothers for hours on end the moment any mob is ever out of MMs cleave range. Playing as an authentic hunter is exhausting.
jaunty blaze
Wouldn't even catch me lvl one
spice roost
same
round field
what are the odds the prepull convoke pulls the boss
what are you yapping
what prepull convoke
dull dust
jaunty blaze
Jestermaxxing
maiden pasture
what are the odds the prepull convoke pulls the boss
Doesn't hit anyone in combat or
Have they changed that shii
spice roost
why would u prepull covoke
dull dust
need to minmax 10sec fights
spice roost
lol
undone plinth
There’s a guide on archon site saying we should play both with convoke and fury of Elune talents ( on KotG spec tree ) is this legit or what ?
undone plinth
Tried it yesterday on raid , 244 Iilvl and had opener was like 120k dps and mid fight and steady was like 50
undone plinth
Sure , one sec
spice roost
maybe someone will look at it
but yes kotg uses foe in alot of stuff
i would follow compendium tho
not archon
undone plinth
Tyvm for that info as well ( checking the logs )
spice roost
np
dawn surge
btw for the EC talents here, what makes meteorites optional as opposed to bis? is it basically just higher key level = greater value and thus right now its not obviously better to run? or is the dmg just pretty mid
dawn surge
ohhh
mint walrus
Hey people - I've jumped back into WoW since the turn of the expansion, I have gone for levelling up my Druid, from a long long time ago!
dawn surge
its only st
ok wait i thought i understood at first but i dont really get it, it says every time starfall does dmg. is that like every tick it only hits 1 target or is it every target per tick causes a meteorite?
spice roost
that im not 100% sure of i just know the talent only is hitting one mob
ivory barn
How much crest u get from tier 11 delve?
jaunty blaze
It's just 1 target
mint walrus
I can't actaully remember which exp I was balance druid main, but it was a long time ago.
Anyway, I levelled to 90 as guardian for speed. I want to play balance + resto in endgame.
However, my balance DPS is absolutely attrocious. I'm ilvl 203, and hitting around 10-15k dps.
Is this correct, or just awful?
jaunty blaze
That's just not very specific info
mint walrus
I am probably doing something drastically wrong, but I think I have my rotation down?...
spice roost
could be all of the above lol
dawn surge
It's just 1 target
that seems insanely awful why is it even optional? lol
what situation would u run that
dawn surge
wack
jaunty blaze
I can't actaully remember which exp I was balance druid main, but it was a long ...
Tbh best advice for that rn is acquire basic gear first and then hit some dungeons and try reading up on the guide
If you still feel you do poorly you will have to log a run so ppl can take a look at what you might be doing wrong
Noone can give you real advice based on the dmg number of your dmg meter
spice roost
is details accurate compared to the ingame damage meter atleast or is there issues with it anyone know i like the look of it better
lucid olive
ok wait i thought i understood at first but i dont really get it, it says every ...
Starfall ticks 8 times
Meteorites hits random target once per tick
jaunty blaze
It's just a reskin
dull dust
tick dn
jaunty blaze
lucid olive
so it's only good on ST cause with additional targets you have no guarantee its hitting a valuable one
dull dust
gamz but st is like 1/4 of a dungeon
lucid olive
also probably worthless talent on fights with dmg immune entities, like Araz from Manaforge or Mug'Zee from Undermine
dull dust
dawn surge
so it's only good on ST cause with additional targets you have no guarantee its ...
what about like the dragons fight in voidspire? youre mostly guaranteed to hit one of them during the fight
seems it might be good there if thats how it works
lucid olive
think there are better talents for that fight
but people are figuring shit out anyway
spice roost
trhat fight has tons of adds too
spice roost
ya
lyric crystal
for siming in raidbots as balance do we need to change something or jsut imput our string??
lucid olive
also this is Balance Druid™©, where 80% of the talents are 1% swings and none of them matter
lyric crystal
from /simc
dawn surge
also this is Balance Druid™©, where 80% of the talents are 1% swings and none of...
fair lol, very balanced
spice roost
they die giga fast tho
we do too
jolly delta
™
lucid olive
how do u write tm
:trademark:
dull dust
thanks
jolly delta
:tm:
spice roost
pad i mean lol
dull dust
bench™
jaunty blaze
lucid olive
same with :copyright:
jolly delta
same with ``:copyright:``
you mean :c:
jaunty blaze
TIL
lucid olive
that works too
spice roost
i think dragons is a very fun fight for boomies
jaunty blaze
grand spear
Hi, if I'm using KotG hero talents, what should I do about the owlkin frenzy procs in the single target? 1. Use them with a low priority 2. Use them with a low priority only when moving 3. Never use them?
dawn surge
ok so now this question is asking for a purely speculative and subjective feelycraft opinion. that being said, do you guys think boomy has the potential to be in the meta comp assuming we see no further big changes? (atleast until .5 patch ofc)
round field
if i just write C then i feel like <@168663781931614208>
what is that supposed to mean
round field
ok so now this question is asking for a purely speculative and subjective feelyc...
uh
raid or m+?
spice roost
mplus maybe
dawn surge
sorry m+ i shouldve specified lmao
lucid olive
what is that supposed to mean
what do you always tell people to get
mint walrus
Tbh best advice for that rn is acquire basic gear first and then hit some dungeo...
Thank you very much!
spice roost
sorry m+ i shouldve specified lmao
i think in keys with 4set we will be absolute beasts imo
but time will tell
dawn surge
awesome i guess im maining boomy based on your opinion now since ppal is still mid :D
spice roost
hahaha\
dawn surge
ivory trail
How much st/aoe % comes from tsets? Do we have Numbers ?
round field
awesome i guess im maining boomy based on your opinion now since ppal is still m...
i might be good
but it probably wont be meta
when u have shit like
lock ele uh
dh
dawn surge
im kidding anyways im not gonna choose a main to push title with till .5
dawn surge
unless ur like pushing title like a weirdo
dawn surge
dawn surge
ay ive raided hof too as a windwalker aight not just a pure m+er
was a few years ago and ive played off and on since
dawn surge
well wtf are u then that youre on the high horse
spice roost
also doesnt matter if something is meta if a player is garbage at the spec just saying as a general thing
royal zenith
anything m+ is kinda irrelevant atm, apart from gearing
spice roost
^
royal zenith
cause the meta will form in a .5 patch
royal zenith
for anything title related
dawn surge
dont tell me ur a filthy casual
round field
technically
im nothing
since i didnt buy xpac
but
i used to be good at the game
like 6 years ago
royal zenith
☎️
sudden flame
dawn surge
i still like you
dawn surge
well everyones allowed to have opinions, even wrong ones ofc
lucid olive
well wtf are u then that youre on the high horse
minigamer
round field
dawn surge
linking a gromnak clip is crazy
spice roost
https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/HedonisticBelovedRavenPeteZaroll-47M96U7k10lm...
lmfao
round field
it might be crazy
spice roost
so true
round field
but hes right
dawn surge
i mean yeah but lets be honest that guy probably just didnt wanna raid and used it as an excuse
round field
the more time goes on
dawn surge
who would unironically wanna raid with gromnak
round field
the lss the crazy people seem like crazy people
dawn surge
besides theres no push weeks anymore everyone hated that
spice roost
haha ya
round field
hell id ragebait him too
dawn surge
its always funny asf until its directed at you xD
spice roost
its still funny
lucid olive
yeah i would never be able to take gromnak seriously
mostly cause i think he's a joke grifter
round field
its always funny asf until its directed at you xD
nah
words cant hurt me
ive been yelled at by @vale pebble every second raid night
lyric crystal
so with convoke the spirits raid build we in KOTG we dont take radiant moonlight anymore??
compedium talent dont take it and in wowhead it takes it
dawn surge
words cant hurt me
be a gigachad and raid with riggnaros then
round field
can my noob tc make up their minds
ruby badger
so with convoke the spirits raid build we in KOTG we dont take radiant moonlight...
Check top logs for stuff like this if you're ever confused
round field
be a gigachad and raid with riggnaros then
im done raiding
ruby badger
or sim it
lyric crystal
thats why gamz jejee ill check logs then :p
spice roost
you will be back stockholm syndrom
spice roost
oh shit
spice roost
nah just bad boomies
maiden pasture
🥀 ts needs a buff
spice roost
well buff us then
round field
well yes
you will get buff
after tier is over
and it doesnt matter anymore
as usual
ruby badger
i mean we have the biggest gain on tier out of any dps
round field
same as last 5 raid tiers
ruby badger
so that probably contributes
dawn surge
after tier is over
stonks for us m+ers
spice roost
^ somewhat ya
ruby badger
- moonkin damage profile is good for the harder bosses this tier
round field
fake and gae
mint walrus
Have I levelled the wrong character to 90? Lol
round field
plus spec is still boring
mint walrus
Did it for Boomy
spice roost
lol
vale pebble
plus spec is still boring
lb
lucid olive
you can apparently gain catalyst charges from doing content after acquiring 4pc so can just full send 4pc insta
vale pebble
spec is too hard
vale pebble
you can apparently gain catalyst charges from doing content after acquiring 4pc ...
gm
round field
spec is too hard
how is it too hard..
vale pebble
how is it too hard..
idk bro it is
ruby badger
you've got spenders builders and procs it's tough
vale pebble
go tab starsurges on dragon boss
round field
go back to healing
spice roost
without kindling
im seeing some run convoke on that boss wtf
round field
what is dragon boss
spice roost
are they doing
lucid olive
Alleria normal splits go hard
spice roost
2 boss fight and lots of small adds
lucid olive
full pad
vale pebble
im seeing some run convoke on that boss wtf
they have c
ruby badger
they have c
c(onvoke the spirits)
vale pebble
c(ancer)
ruby badger
😄
lucid olive
20 small orbs
saw Krona play EC on that
royal zenith
Alleria normal splits go hard
keep gaslighting yourself
lucid olive
tried it, was fun
vale pebble
yea
dull dust
jover
round field
its very jover
dull dust
all the top specs tier sucks
dull dust
surely
vale pebble
fighting for ur life
lucid olive
the orbs spawn and I just find a random one and start pressing Starfire
round field
fighting for ur life
i think
ur just noobert
what is this bro
🥀
the downfall needs to be studied
spice roost
wtf ur an expert tho
ruby badger
saw Krona play EC on that
i keep tuning into krona and just seeing guardian gameplay 🥀
lucid olive
wtf ur an expert tho
no hes a regular
vale pebble
bigwigs btw
spice roost
oh true
royal zenith
I will green log today
vale pebble
really hard
royal zenith
I mean, people who play on wednesday
vale pebble
50 abilites queued up
ruby badger
when you're on paladin boss and you're just seeing 400 timers for tank busters and raid wide pulsing damage
dull dust
need 2 get shot
zommoros arc
vale pebble
ye
vale pebble
top10 most cringe shit
i try to look for some ability
to call
impossible challenge
i cant even look my dots
lucid olive
50 abilites queued up
it was the same in raid testing too 😭 😭
vale pebble
it was the same in raid testing too 😭 😭
royal zenith
LMAO
vale pebble
yea imagine trying to look for
dull dust
soon we get the liquid hacks dw 
vale pebble
soon we get the liquid hacks dw <:COPIUM:848757417156149248>
bro max complained in
0.1 about that
lucid olive
think i lost like 2 years life expectancy on my CPU from that
dull dust
soon
lucid olive
spellqueueing of abilities
Bigwigs tweeted about it during raid testing that this was an issue as well
dull dust
i burned out my last cpu running a program from porom
spice roost
hahaha
royal zenith
i burned out my last cpu running a program from porom
Im not surprised!!
lucid olive
And Bigwigs could limit the number of bars shown but can't hide any or determine priority of a bar
dull dust
hope he at least got a bitcoin from it
round field
no but genuinely
vale pebble
but this is legit so bad
round field
how delusional do you have to be as devs
vale pebble
i need to learn
round field
to do this shit
vale pebble
every timer
round field
like how
vale pebble
its so cringe
why do i need to learn every timer
and hide bigwigs
only way to play now
dull dust
need to see when aoe swirlies spawn every time surely
vale pebble
top10 cringe
dull dust
otherwise how u gunna dodge
i stopped looking at timers and just full vibe every fight
this is the meta
vale pebble
im sitting there going from
colored filtered bigwigs
and weakauras
to me telling my tank
yea bro
idk when u need to move out
i cant read bigwigs
just go to and edge and when u see big circle move out
chills bro
lucid olive
I am shocked how people can aim the Dread Breath bad on the dragons btw
dull dust
listen to the bosses voicelines its the new raidlead 
lucid olive
I thought maybe the mechanic was hard to notice until I got it
lucid olive
that shit gives you a warning like 5-6 seconds before the dragon even turns around and starts casting
dull dust
i got frontaled across the room 3x by it
jaunty blaze
It's the same ppl that couldn't read their weakaura text on screen either
jaunty blaze
Plus tts
lucid olive
I had time to waddle my dumb moonkin ass from the middle of platform to the edge before it went off without losing a cast
round field
its crazy
that a company like
designes shit bosses you need weakauras to fight
"weakauras ruin the game"
and then just nuke everything cause ur incompetent
round field
idk how the raid fights are atm
dull dust
cant wait for fractilus v2 next raid
round field
but i assume they still make dogshit mechanics
jolly delta
not only class devs
lethal lagoon
What should stats look like??
round field
and get people who actually like their job and want to do something other than make players miserable
vale pebble
i need CDM addon guys
aj
dull dust
make one
vale pebble
least shit
dull dust
ask ai and make one in 20mins
jolly delta
least shit
dull dust
like everyone else
jolly delta
ask ai and make one in 20mins
no i tried
dull dust
lock in
pallid bay
i need like the most basic shit
dull dust
tf is dr
pallid bay
centering, remove the stupid look, desaturate
pallid bay
i didnt remove it
round field
why dont u use it then
craggy sonnet
centering, remove the stupid look, desaturate
cdm centered prolly then
pallid bay
i just cba maintaining when blizzard will inevitably break it
jolly delta
dream burst
round field
what are we doing
jolly delta
clearly
dull dust
round field
thats genuinely stupid
jolly delta
thats genuinely stupid
bro i didnt even know what would happen without an icon
im not wasting time now
to split names, get the initials
lock in
round field
i think u should
round field
slacker
vale pebble
jolly delta
maybe
mint walrus
question, is it worth spending time getting my balance druid up to top ilvl
or just scrapping that and going for a diff class?
round field
sure if you wanna play balance druid
round field
no
jolly delta
tacit quest
Then reroll once meta is figured out in 3 weeks
vale pebble
truthnuke
tacit quest
The best way to get invited to keys is to make some friends. The best way to do good dps is to play the meta spec
tacit quest
I doubt lock will be meta, it'll get tuned in line with other specs eventually and doesn't bring enough utility for 5 man content to get brought with insane damage.
spice roost
^
round field
wrong
spice roost
nerf inc for lock def
mint walrus
what would you suggest then? Of course it's personal opinino
vale pebble
we need 2 more takes @tacit quest
royal zenith
spice roost
lock has a lot of utility in keys now with 2 interupts and aoe curse
tacit quest
Nah 2/3 ain't bad, I'm not gonna hurt my average more
round field
what would you suggest then? Of course it's personal opinino
just play mage
one of the specs is bound to be op
mage being bad is against tos
mint walrus
I know but I've found mage so dull over the last few expansions
round field
well too bad
if you find specs dull mby midnight isnt for you
its only gonna get worse
tacit quest
I'm playing balance because my peak class fantasy is herbing fast, not pushing io
tacit quest
Great second monitor content waiting for season to start. And after season starts you can reroll to the established meta
candid ember
Do you guys recon balance will be good enought to pug high keys?
jolly delta
round field
Do you guys recon balance will be good enought to pug high keys?
define what a high key is to you
cause nothing is good for pugging high keys
get friends
candid ember
19/20
Or is it worth getting an alt that is pure dps like mage or such for keys? I main resto on my druid
round field
lock in resto
lucid olive
<a:nodders:1203465365091389460>
good you keep working on this btw
really cool software idea
have you shown it to other class discord APL guys
jolly delta
Also functionally good
I've stopped using raidbots because it lacks too many features
jolly delta
have you shown it to other class discord APL guys
nope, just to the simc guys
hopefully I can finish account creation before end of week and then I can actually let you run sims
jolly delta
or just looks good
I'll take it as a compliment
maiden pasture
<a:nodders:1203465365091389460>
looks clean af
royal zenith
I'll take it as a compliment
I mean, I'm all in for this type of shit
I think it's great
if things actually work out in practical use is always part 2
but at least people are trying new stuff
midnight bay
Guys need help 😅
On Elune Chosen at lightblinded when you use wrath? You shouldnt alwats use starfire and starfall?
On raid
jolly delta
but at least people are trying new stuff
you have no idea
we bout to revolutionize the simc ecosystem
first real competitor to raidbots
royal zenith
doesn't it work in tandem..
maiden pasture
i thought it was just for TCs mainly for APL testing shii
are u looking to do everything raidbots does and more or
vital hound
<a:nodders:1203465365091389460>
so sick man
jolly delta
i thought it was just for TCs mainly for APL testing shii
it's mainly for TC and APL for now, but I have all the infrastructure to run profilesets and comparisons
Which means that implementing gear compare is trivial
I just didnt get to it because it requires manual work to set up stuff
But you can already have character profiles
And talent loadouts etc
So e.g. I dont have to reimport my char everytime I want to run a quick sim
ruby badger
Guys need help 😅
On Elune Chosen at lightblinded when you use wrath? You should...
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t7NJTvM2V4b8h3nR?fight=12&type=casts&source=26
Krona only uses wrath prepull so if there is a minmax with wrath, you'll be fine without it 🤷♂️
oh wait that's V&E
ignore the cap
pliant tiger
Is there any point to craft the staff with hero crests this week?
vale pebble
not with hero no
jolly delta
no
pliant tiger
so 259 it is i guess 🙂
strange spruce
259 and next week u recraft for mythic after few m+
pliant tiger
259 and next week u recraft for mythic after few m+
Yup ❤️
merry ibex
so it seems like we still arent very good
lucid olive
idk i'm blasting
orchid coyote
Hey i have a dumb question about Force of Nature,,, if I cast it next to the boss in raid, is that going to actually taunt the boss away lol
lucid olive
no
orchid coyote
splendid
merry ibex
youre playing this talent
We hope
lucid olive
ah i missed that one, thx
There is a search box on bottom left of your talents
if you look up any talent it gives a magnifying glass over the talents that mention it
orchid coyote
oh sick, did not know that
midnight bay
Guys One more question
At keeper after the opener you enter eclipse before incarn or use it separately
lucid olive
separately
maiden pasture
does coach whistle proc off damage spells aswell?
is it like the smb trinket where it says helpful spells but also just procs on normal damage spells?
spice roost
is that the healer trink for aa
maiden pasture
yeah
pallid bay
it used to proc of something in our kit
pallid bay
vro
maiden pasture
is this other trinket just chopped cheese then
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rLxP819KoyVQi3jS8i5XVh
potent vessel
when we get a touch of the cosmos proc are we spending that on starfall always?
magic shadow
idk i'm blasting
Agreed. Did normal voidspire last night and was either 1st or 2nd on the meters. Right behind frost mage
thorn nacelle
when we get a touch of the cosmos proc are we spending that on starfall always?
Only if you don't have Apex talent procs
dawn surge
normal vaelgors trinket dropped and i missed the roll by 2
gg
even bribery didnt work the guy equipped instantly
obsidian tapir
any tips for delve ?? boss as I get hit so hard
lofty depot
Stop getting hit
lofty depot
normal vaelgors trinket dropped and i missed the roll by 2 <:VerySadCat:84509028...
We're rolling op trinkets, tragic
It's ok, everyone gonna hate using it anyway
maiden pasture
30% uptime on the coach buff
seems to proc off of damage spells, tested on dummy
vale pebble
seems to proc off of damage spells, tested on dummy
are u just spamming wrath at enemy?
maiden pasture
ye
didnt press convoke or anything to not proc heal spells
only wrath
its just the smb trinket again it seems
obsidian tapir
Stop getting hit
wiped 2-3 times at 1 % I sweating while mages are playing on easy mode
maiden pasture
tooltip says helpful spells, just procs on damage spells too
maiden pasture
no
maiden pasture
lofty depot
wiped 2-3 times at 1 % I sweating while mages are playing on easy mode
U can play eeeler and not sweat
obsidian tapir
U can play eeeler and not sweat
healers is easy ?>
vale pebble
where it would proc heals
obsidian tapir
valeera dps ?
spice roost
any tips for delve ?? boss as I get hit so hard
do it as bear
obsidian tapir
do it as bear
I do not think tank is the way 🙁
maiden pasture
tank is easy
maiden pasture
you only do 2x ironfurs for every tank hit, then can rotate defensives ith them for the enrage
spice roost
It's ok, everyone gonna hate using it anyway
why would anyone hate the trinket ? or are u just trying to be nice
obsidian tapir
you only do 2x ironfurs for every tank hit, then can rotate defensives ith them ...
you sure?
maiden pasture
yes i did it as tank
obsidian tapir
oki will give it a go ty so much for the tips
maiden pasture
if you really want a free ride do it as resto
lofty depot
why would anyone hate the trinket ? or are u just trying to be nice
If u macro it to incarn u lose damage
lofty depot
Well, don't gain all the damage
maiden pasture
25 m fight
spice roost
If u macro it to incarn u lose damage
still worth using over anythign else tho riight
?
lofty depot
There's damage on eclipse, if u proc mastery stats it doesnt effect your solar bolt.
I mean u just make a new button
And press it prior to ca
spice roost
not what i asked tho
obsidian tapir
yes i did it as tank
I will try it on tank
lofty depot
I mean I can't sim how the trinket works cuz it works incorrectly technically on sim
It's probably fine
modest wagon
Is EC really taking rattle over starweaver in M+?
modest wagon
ah so probably not as grief when enemies last longer
idk whether to EC or KotG in general just trying to understand the differences in the trees
strange spruce
so it seems like we still arent very good
sp is just better at everything in raid
lofty depot
I can't wait for boomkin to be good at a council fight ever
lyric crystal
for siming for mythic + how do we setup raidbot??
obsidian tapir
yes i did it as tank
did you use raid talents or delve ?
maiden pasture
think i went in with my m0 talents ngl
jolly delta
for siming for mythic + how do we setup raidbot??
either MDT sim or 1t5m
lofty depot
did you use raid talents or delve ?
Look up Priestism video
Ignore name, he's a bamkin
main trench
I’m assuming someone asked this already. But fire chicken form from amerdrisil we can get that from lfr now?
lusty echo
Soulcatcher's Charm is S tier in icy veins guide, and D tier on wowhead. Any incentive on that ? I don't know what trinket I should hunt
distant oasis
Did you sim all of them ?
round field
what if 2 gospels say different things
spice roost
haha
jaunty blaze
That's how wars start
velvet raft
Still even without simming a lot can be learned from understanding why one site does one thing and another does another. I was looking at wowhead with different raid builds yesterday trying to figure out the why.
Wishing it explained more.
delicate perch
real