balance

[dull dust]

[normal pilot]

just do the 3:1 vendor recipe maybe you get one with better roll

[dull dust]

i havnt looked at anything am i getting gaslit

[lucid olive]

Staves

[hoary torrent]

Coming in here expecting any sympathy with a mage tag is brave

[leaden birch]

staff'es

[hoary torrent]

Sticks

[dull dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shield-bashing-warrior-banging-gif-4338452386513641626

[leaden birch]

are y'all dotting both dwagons in voidspire?

[fringe warren]

Is it just me or is the new eclipse gameplay clunky asf

kinda miss when it was 100% uptime

[normal pilot]

well it wasn't 100% uptime

[fringe warren]

When it was close to 100% uptime

[normal pilot]

it had no positives, only negatives

[white zodiac]

I feel like I still have 90-95% uptime

[fringe warren]

I feel like that IN DUNGEONS

[normal pilot]

there was no way for you to increase the uptime, only way to avoid fucking up and losing uptime

[fringe warren]

the raid playstyle is a different story. It feels lowk awful

[normal pilot]

i guess if you like hard casting 2x instead of an instant

[fringe warren]

I mean it's weirder now because it's limited

[normal pilot]

well you can't lose uptime on it now

[fringe warren]

Like wouldn't it be a dmg increase to send a lunar eclipse if you only have fury of elune

[normal pilot]

why fury is astral

[fringe warren]

but then when you have treants in the next 15 seconds you might not have a charge for solar eclipse

A lunar eclipse increases astral dmg?

and solar increases nature?

[normal pilot]

no

lunar is arcane

astral is both

maybe it feels wierd because you have some misunderstanding about the schools and are trying to force something you don't need to

[civic lake]

Hey anyone here able to answer a question on a APL line?

[fringe warren]

I mean that might be. ngl that's highkey not intuitive

[normal pilot]

it's pretty bad yeah

but that's wow tooltips for you

[fringe warren]

welp thx. I was making that WAAAAAAY more complicated for myself then lmfao

[normal pilot]

gamz might be around for apl stuff but maybe not you can see if clankz or chancel are around

[civic lake]

i'll just toss the question in here:

actions.kotg_st+=/force_of_nature,if=variable.opener&buff.ascendant_stars.down&dot.sunfire.remains>16|!variable.opener&(buff.eclipse.remains>cooldown.force_of_nature.duration|!buff.eclipse.up&(cooldown.eclipse.remains<gcd.max|cooldown.ca_inc.ready&(!talent.convoke_the_spirits|cooldown.convoke_the_spirits.remains<gcd.max*5)))|fight_remains<15

i saw this was updated, im confused on the: buff.eclipse.remains > cooldown.force_of_nature.duration part

the buff would never be longer than the duration of the cooldown (60s) or should that be cooldown.force_of_nature.remains

[normal pilot]

@lucid olive

if he's not around maybe he'll answer when he's back

[dull dust]

he awnsered that earlier

[civic lake]

ope, i go scroll now

[white zodiac]

I must be doing something weird cause im on the dargos right now and I feel like there was only one part that I was out of eclipse for like 10 seconds

[normal pilot]

oh ok then he got a free ping

[civic lake]

any chance you could point me where?

[lucid olive]

Was a different discord

[dull dust]

whoops

[civic lake]

lol i was digging, but no luck!

[lucid olive]

The line was supposed to be buff.harmony_of_the_grove.duration and not treants

[civic lake]

ohhhhhhh okay makes much more sense now lmao

[lucid olive]

Ran the line and saw it was 0.8% better and forgot to remove the one that doesn't matter

[civic lake]

im like hold up, rip treants

[lucid olive]

Not sure if the original intent is better either I just forgot to remove it

[civic lake]

so: buff.eclipse.remains>buff.harmony_of_the_grove.remains?

[lucid olive]

Duration not remains

So basically send if eclipse has longer than 10s left

Was the intent at least

[grim crater]

im doing a raid, and Im so used to using EC that i forgot i had KOTG and was nto using solar eclipse

[civic lake]

oh right lol cool. just messing with custom simcs

[dull dust]

make number go up

[lucid olive]

If you find any upgrades lmk

[dull dust]

[stoic fog]

Why is boomkin so disgustlingly hard ?!

[dull dust]

they forgot this was midnight

[zinc yew]

why isnt boomy on simulationcraft or bloodmallet

[magic walrus]

dumbass question. is fury of elune super necessary if Im running trees? I already really dont like the way its playing currently, adding another cooldown is just making my little tiny pea brain confused

[hoary torrent]

It does feel like we are the only spec to gain buttons in midnight 🤣

[magic walrus]

RIGHT???

[normal pilot]

you can prolly drop it just run a top gear with it blocked and see what the dps diff is

[lofty depot]

whats hard

[lofty depot]

the funny profile graph simulationcraft has?

cuz no one has updated it

and dont use bloodmallet

[lofty depot]

it helps with asp gen

[junior thicket]

boomie pump

i miss the last season kotg 4p

with empowered surges after dryad fading

[delicate perch]

Real

[civic lake]

@lucid olive can i DM you questions?

[exotic perch]

should just ask in here

[civic lake]

back to that force of nature cast, the opener portion is: variable.opener&buff.ascendant_stars.down&dot.sunfire.remains>16

sunfire duration (if not extended by another cast) is only 18s, i think the sim engine may be assuming it longer

it applied, then FoN gets casted ~5s later which it'd technically be below 16s in real application

[magic walrus]

Bet, thank you

[junior thicket]

i meaan

[civic lake]

is that in response to my question?

[junior thicket]

can we bind trinket+pot to convoke aswell? or is it not good idea

macro*

[lofty depot]

no

and if u have vaelgors u dont want to macro it to ca either

[junior thicket]

okay then mor buttons to press :(

[delicate perch]

Oh no :((

[drowsy cape]

Soulcatchers charm and emberwing feather are both D tier trinkets but when I sim a M+ droptimizer, they are the highest dps upgrades

[dull dust]

link sim

seems weird

arctic will review

[civic lake]

im level 87 so maybe thats why?

[dull dust]

:

hmm

mayne

mabey

[lofty depot]

ILVL CHECK

[dull dust]

well i got 3 sticks and 2 chests

so not great

[dull dust]

hoyl shit

did u raid already

[lofty depot]

no

m0s, delves, prey

[dull dust]

wtf

im slackin

or unlucky

[exotic perch]

i just did delves and prey and am 248

just send all the crests that arent hero

[dull dust]

oh true

[warm dagger]

Soulcatchers looks like a solid A tier after the buff

[dull dust]

U CANT MAKE THIS UP

[rigid flame]

So I just got a 1/6 ilvl 259 hero track staff from a delve. Do I slam it 6/6 or would that be dumb?

[dull dust]

that would be dumb

[drifting nova]

yes, you can say it, it's bad

[rigid flame]

Thanks! Reason being?

[dull dust]

crafting a stick would just be better next week

and u would be wasting hero crests

[drifting nova]

wrong class, that's not mage

[dull dust]

mabey my mage would be luckier

[normal pilot]

it's too late you're already tainted with moonkin

[dull dust]

[sudden matrix]

smell like space chicken

[dense steeple]

bro the paladin boss cucks you if you starfall nice

[exotic perch]

alleria p1 is worse

you cant really hit all 3 mobs

[topaz venture]

yea if i stood in the middle to hit all 3 adds id aggro every slime

XD

[exotic perch]

the big guys need to be like 5 yards closer

and itd be perfect

[dense steeple]

havent touched it yet

did all the other bosses tho

normal splits besides last boss voidspire done, 0 leather tier

we got 3 cloth tier, 1 plate tier, and the rest were mail

bedge tiume tho

[tiny tendon]

very cool

[dull dust]

[drifting nova]

named your dh moonbirb? interesting

wait

seat is in rotato? oh no

[lofty depot]

11

[lofty depot]

HOLY

[wild dune]

yuge

[maiden pasture]

W

balance?

[lofty depot]

no im shit

but i didnt get a agi staff from m0s so i still had myt 237

[maiden pasture]

any vod of a bear doing it

[lofty depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBa_rqbwwzI

i didnt stream

too tired

triple pot, big

[maiden pasture]

wdym

[lofty depot]

took me 11:30

[maiden pasture]

wtf

does it not have an enrage or @lofty depot

[lofty depot]

uhh idk

[faint kindle]

anyone got a good ui setup that you could share the string

[upper anvil]

Whats the rng chance for delvers bounty. I did all 4 bountiful and didnt get one. Am I just unlucky

[dull dust]

this spec is like 30x funner with weaver

im realizing

[jaunty blaze]

is that so

[nimble tangle]

bruh, all champion gears I got are either shit trinkets or shit weapons

[jaunty blaze]

character already bricked gg

[normal pilot]

unlucky boost a new druid

[nimble tangle]

Game bricked

Time to quit

[jaunty blaze]

😔

[lofty depot]

just now u realizing

[lofty depot]

#1473018731687841853

[wild dune]

damage amp for last 25%, took me like 15mins or so as healer

[jaunty blaze]

15 mins

[maiden pasture]

HOLY

healer

gigachad

[wild dune]

was piss tbh

will be a joke with gear and valeera maxed out, its not technically difficult at all like kyvesa

[last fog]

Excuse me, where can i check talents for m+? please!!

[wild dune]

well theres no m+ yet

[jaunty blaze]

all in the pins

and ye you got 1 week for that to find out

[delicate perch]

I know (not sharing)

[jaunty blaze]

what the helly

[ripe slate]

the ironic part about this

is i went in on my spriest

with less gear

and killed it in 2 tries

the boss legit does not deal any damage to you on any priest spec

[jaunty blaze]

nice game

[ripe slate]

people say tanks are a joke

[lofty depot]

yea u can just fade every buster

shits stupid

[reef ocean]

any boomies do hof null yet?

[ripe slate]

but the real joke are priests

i think dak did it as moonkin

[ripe slate]

see heres the thing

[lofty depot]

apparently healer priest doesnt take damage from the tank hit

[ripe slate]

only tanks get busters

any dps/healer spec dont get busters

[maiden pasture]

Do you have to perma kite as priest

[ripe slate]

no

he doesnt melee

for shit

legit

like 10% of my hp per auto

compared to like 40% of my hp on moonkin lol

[lofty depot]

lol

[maiden pasture]

Does the dot not shag

[ripe slate]

healer valeera

i couldve probably done nullaeus on an spriet at like

210 ilvl

its that easy

they tried to tune it for each spec

but my god did they miss on priest

[jaunty blaze]

[harsh jungle]

Elune siming higher on St then keeper?

[dull dust]

rate the crib /10

[somber lily]

Thank you for the video, wiped on him like 10x and one shotted after watching it and copying the talent build

[vital swift]

yes

[lofty depot]

thats not unusual tbf

[harsh jungle]

Well that sucks

[jaunty blaze]

It's very whatever

Doesn't mean it's played

[vital swift]

1k diff

[pine briar]

does the delve map only drop in bountiful delves or anything 7+?

[lofty depot]

nightmare prey

the quest gives u one

[pine briar]

ah bet, thx fam

[warm juniper]

anyone know if this trinket simming correctly? picked it up from raid tonight bc it was decently rated on dreamgrove, but sim is saying to use 240 eyeball from magister's terrace instead

[lofty depot]

the value in it comes from resets when your dumb guildies die

[lucid olive]

Also it's probably not used correctly in sims

Since it's a 2s Channel and you wanna use it before cooldowns preferably

[lofty depot]

also double on use doesnt work :/

life is hard

[warm juniper]

hahaha alright. i'll use it before cds yeah and just slam on cd otherwise i imagine when people die

[indigo barn]

Depends if you expect more ppl to die before your next CA i guess

[dull dust]

[arctic ruin]

would you guys use this over the renown trinket

for bossing

5 sec fear...

[main edge]

So, quick question, if my FoE is up already but I can't Eclipse or CA yet cuz FoN is still on CD, do I just hold the FoE?

[lofty depot]

How long from now is trees up

If it's like 15-20s u desync it somewhere

[spice roost]

i dont raid til tomarrow hows boomkin looking as good as expected?

[lofty depot]

Go watch canexx and when I wake up I'll ask u

[main edge]

Wait so, if Trees still is on CD for 15-20 secs, I just use FoE without anything and hope it aligns somewhere again?

[lofty depot]

Well they should naturally line up

It was more saying u messed up somewhere rather than do something else

[main edge]

Aaaah I see

Yeah still struggling a bit to wrap my head around boomy.

[lofty depot]

Idk how there's a difference in CD when they're both the same... Unless ur playing early spring

In which case until there's a reason to, u shouldn't be playing that

[main edge]

But, doesn't get trees shifted by the hero talent that allows us to hold 15 seconds longer?

[lucid olive]

And what CD does it end up at after holding for a bit

[lofty depot]

Those still line up, which is why I'm confused how ur foe is ever that far off

[main edge]

45 seconds after holding 15 seconds extra?

[lucid olive]

You can hold Incarn until FoE is like 4-5 seconds off or something and then use it inside treants

It doesn't lose you a use

[main edge]

Oh yeah, ok I'm just dumb, I see

[spice roost]

are people mainly playing convoke again ugh

im peeping at logs is all

[twin lotus]

no way convoke is the go to

not with all the cleave

and even in ST convoke is a tiny bit better

[spice roost]

looks like some fights it is

idk

[lost violet]

They tuned Nullaeus? it comes to a point where i dont have either incarn/ bark / defens and just 1-2 ironfure for his slash, and got hit for 600k :/ loooool

[copper gate]

Have any boomies done the ?? Delve

[flat pewter]

wow this ?? boss was a lot easier with a duo

[lost violet]

no way? if i dont have a big Def cd i cant outlive.... what am I doing wrong?

244ilvl to low?

valeria lvl 21

[cursive mirage]

@lofty depot tell me to craft staff so I can stop over thinking this

[lucid olive]

craft staff

no reason to overthink

[cursive mirage]

yay

[lucid olive]

there isnt a myth staff available until week 3 and at that point you can craft a 2nd item anyway

[cursive mirage]

based

[drowsy cape]

are you able to craft a darkmoon sigil hunt along with 2 arcanoweave lining? thought you could only have 2 embellishments

wowhead guide for early crafts has 3 embellishments

[spice roost]

3 to picck from u dont use all 3 lol

you can only have 2 at a time

[drowsy cape]

thats what I thought

[vital swift]

Are you crafting with champion crest?

[spice roost]

i dont think u can even do that

it crafts with just sparks at champ lvl

[lucid olive]

no, you misunderstood what its saying then

[vital swift]

i think we should be able to craft it with hero crests

delve boss gives 60 i presume

[lucid olive]

dont use hero crests to craft

[cursive mirage]

pretty sure you dont want to do that

just wait for myth crests next week

[lucid olive]

you will need more hero crests in general than you need myth crests

[pine briar]

im fried, did u mean the nullaeus thing or the actual nightmare prey quests

[livid jay]

just do this

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGkZ2Cjr0jlv90XqW9vy9VXsVucd-yMCgHdyCvX_kQfOrexNDAC7Lf3LifuhqxrcWqJ0W3zIhvK3ii/pub

[vital swift]

ok so we craft just crestless

?

[tiny tendon]

oh nah I recolored it with a roleplay addon

[lucid olive]

or with myth crests

[tiny tendon]

do we classify this delve map item as a W

oh big W

[nimble tangle]

how tf you guys already got delve map

i did 4 delves from 8 to 11

nothing

[tiny tendon]

my 4th delve gave me a map in final chest so had to do a 5th

[nimble tangle]

wow is bricked to me

[tiny tendon]

just get lucky idk man

(nightmare hunt quest also gives you a guaranteed beacon to summon the boss i heard)

[livid jay]

this shit gonna be full when i come home from work

thx blizzo

[tiny tendon]

full of tanks

[livid jay]

and healers running in circles

[sudden flame]

Eu?

[maiden pasture]

u can duo it what the hell

[sudden flame]

You don’t get the hall of fame achievement tho

[flat pewter]

i did

[lost violet]

well I cant do it at all because i run out of cds and die from his strike ability 1mil dmg 😛

[maiden pasture]

as what spec

[lost violet]

guardian

[maiden pasture]

u dont run out

[thick anvil]

Hey, I did it as a warlock!

[maiden pasture]

only do 2x ironfurs for the tank hit until you get like 3 tank hits into the last phase

[lost violet]

when no more barskin, incarn, lunar beam, 50% dr (savage def?) well honed procced and valeera cheat death proc

i die if i "only" haev ironfurs

[royal zenith]

OHHH NOOOOO

[livid jay]

yes

[royal zenith]

not the delve hof!!!

whatever shall you do!

and there's no way that jobless people have the upper hand in this game!

shockkkkeer!!!

[sudden flame]

Too many unemployed people in eu man

[livid jay]

i mean i dont really care but now that its full before i even get the chance is a bit depressing 😄

[round field]

if you actually cared you would have woken up at reset and doen the delve before work

[lucid olive]

Better society

[royal zenith]

real

healthier society

[lucid olive]

If you didn't spend 5 hours leveling Alleria before reset you don't deserve moler hof

[sudden flame]

You can do it with a level 20 valeera so I’m not worried

People who did that wasted their time

[royal zenith]

just do it end of week

hof is w.e.

[dusk coral]

OH 253 on world boss (hast-vers).. maybe i can craft 1H instead of 2H hmmmm, what do u think ?

[royal zenith]

get gear, easy kill and cresticles

[flat pewter]

My Valera was level 16 🙂

[livid jay]

last time it took like 5 hours of attempts to beat the thing

[round field]

i dont think a world boss main hand is that good..

[round field]

that sounds like a skill issue

[livid jay]

i mean it was hard

[vital hound]

im watching canex play rn fellas

and he casts a filler inbetween spenders

[round field]

that does not contradict my statement

[vital hound]

regardless of whether its an ap or sw proc or some shit

what gives

[livid jay]

did u kill it?

[round field]

are you really asking me that question

you should know me better by now

[livid jay]

[round field]

"did iqnious go into a random optional delve to do a miniboss for an achievment"

the question answers itself doesnt it

[livid jay]

it was a statement of big balls back then

[round field]

ye but it doesnt fit into the "do mandatory m+ for vault into raidlog" playstlye

[livid jay]

yea

[round field]

also read mandatory m+ for vault as optional

[livid jay]

nah in our guild the leads whoop your ass and lootban u if u dont do your keys

(im a lead)

[tiny tendon]

That’s like the other 3% of people seen a lot of locks get it

[tiny tendon]

This looks like a p3 / <25% boss health hit

[wraith parcel]

Whats the state of balance sinces the patch? Are we back? Or do i remain guardian

[lucid olive]

One part of me wants to kill it on a Moonkin and the other part of me wants to get the crests as soon as possible

Might just kill it as guardian

[tiny tendon]

Kill first as bear, get moonkin proof later

[lucid olive]

No that'd be fake

Not killing that boss more than once

[twin lotus]

based

[livid jay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/race/latest

huh

is the raid this easy??

[twin lotus]

its normal and hc?

[livid jay]

oh its heroic

lmao

ok

phew

[twin lotus]

[round field]

is like

mythic not out yet

[lucid olive]

Next week

[round field]

wait

[livid jay]

yea i forgot

[round field]

and m+ isnt out either?

[livid jay]

myhtic next week

[lucid olive]

Correct

[round field]

what

[lucid olive]

Logging in is overrated

[livid jay]

hahaha

[twin lotus]

had a good laugh

[round field]

that is so weird

[twin lotus]

😄

[livid jay]

yea m+ shoulda been out this week

its wweird af

nothing to do again

[lucid olive]

And next week is mythic raid but not the full tier

[livid jay]

but hey, m0 is daily now

[lucid olive]

The last raid drops in 2 weeks

[livid jay]

hooray

[twin lotus]

Would have thought boomies would top the lightblinded vanguard

or at least be on top with locks and priests

[round field]

nah no shot

[twin lotus]

but it's more stacked than I thought it would be

Not looking too bad though

[lucid olive]

Why

[twin lotus]

I still have that notion that we have strong dotting

dots + starfall

[livid jay]

the time when we were superior in spread cleave has been over for like 2-3 years by now

[twin lotus]

I remember good ole coven of shivara

[livid jay]

[wraith parcel]

Are you guys playing keeper or elune?

[twin lotus]

keeper

[dreamy locust]

What cooldown manager addon is better, BCM or ayije

Brainlet player just needs his weakaura style pack back

Anyone made anything that looks like ap pro bar xd

[vale pebble]

aj thing for sure

[lost violet]

Tried doing Nullaeus with companion as tank and me as boomy, she got one shot 4 sec in mine is lvl 21. I seriously think there is something broken for me 😮 i watch so many kills on youtube now and this is nothing like it. Anyone else feeling the same?

[stone lance]

Bnet still down? Can’t log in to the Game …

[sudden flame]

[lucid olive]

Heard about a new one called like SkironCooldownManager that's in alpha stage

Looks good for an alpha stage add-on at least

[vale pebble]

too late for that nobody will swap when tier is out

[lucid olive]

Depends if it's getting nuked with the new API shit

[vale pebble]

dead on arrival

what new shit

are they changing addons again

xd

yea nuke

[lucid olive]

I know they post this on ui dev discord but didn't find it when I went to look

Assume it's an answer to the Liquid addon

[indigo barn]

The rwf streams started and their ui looks like nothing changed from last tier, blizz mad probably

[vale pebble]

yee

but

[round field]

Just take the L bLizzard

[vale pebble]

reloe ert

[lucid olive]

Which begs the question why are they reactively doing this now when the RWF guilds have actively been communicating what they're using

[vale pebble]

also has that no?

[dreamy locust]

I got AJ, reloaded work, relaoded again, every spell disappeared

fucking hate addons man

[vale pebble]

what

do u have some other addon

that conflicts with it

ive had 0 problems

[lucid olive]

Closest to ap pro bar you can make with Twintops

Alternatively you can get OiUi

[lucid olive]

I had some yesterday where my utility bar disappeared but probably a conflicting addon

Worked after reload

[vital swift]

Where

[dreamy locust]

Not that Id think, only got basic stuff enabled nowadays

[spice roost]

delve map delivered lets go

[lucid olive]

Wago

It's a weakaura, can find it where you find those..

[round field]

A

[lucid olive]

Or probably wago.io/OiUi works

[round field]

Weakaura?

[lucid olive]

M33kaura

[vale pebble]

yea bro u think its gone?

[lucid olive]

My add-on icon says WA I am not calling it something else

[vital swift]

omg he dropped it

[round field]

Yes?

[vale pebble]

bahahhahaa

[lucid olive]

Iqni this isn't December anymore

[round field]

So ur saying

[vale pebble]

also

friends

[round field]

Weakauras arent dead?

[vale pebble]

why are we running convoke on dragons boss

hello guys 1 braincell

[dreamy locust]

I mean, my talents were all fucked whole night

Just rushing through normal/most of heroic

pull up to boss they starting a pull timer on reset

[vale pebble]

bahahhahaa

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[dreamy locust]

I only leveled yday lmfao

I did 0 m0's

I told guild im playing poe until last day

[vale pebble]

aura

[dreamy locust]

Not like this week matters at all

At least to me, Im like 247 after normal and 1 world tour

didnt need to play 3 weeks of slop

Normal/heroic will die in our hours and no splits, so live life

https://i.imgur.com/IPnr5vo.png

I reloaded and all the spells on ayije disappeared man

[vale pebble]

what loot did u conjure

[vale pebble]

show addons vro

[dreamy locust]

I didnt get nothin, normal gear m0 people didnt need

[vale pebble]

🥀

[lucid olive]

ArcUI bcdm cooldown manager control cooldown manager centered ayijeCDM

Omg why's my cdm bugged

[vale pebble]

what do i get for unitframes

what only does unitframes

maybe i just tank default

not that biggie

[lucid olive]

Probably nothing, Danders maybe

Add-ons are so weird

[dreamy locust]

How tf you show enabled addons, list shows like 3 at a time, I usually just disable out of date ones dont delete

would be like 9 images

[vale pebble]

escape > addons

[lucid olive]

"oh my UI is lacking this one useful feature", guy makes add-on and publishes it then continues to fill it up with random ass features

I got an addon in prepatch to show missing raid buffs and stuff, I log in 2 weeks later and the add-on has raid frames???

Like stay in your lane holy shit every add-on doesn't have to be ElvUI

People think it's better to have one giga 80mb addon with 50 features instead of multiple 100kb ones that each do one specific thing

[round field]

thats cause it is

i dont want 35 trillion addons

you know what

scrap that

i dont want addon

how about blizzard does the fucking job and makes a functional game instead

[vital swift]

true

[jaunty blaze]

It's just their addon purge did nothing at all

*funny

[vale pebble]

@lucid olive do u know if fall or surge get forced on 2targets or is it based on talents u pick atm

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uBcURDwuNAs5qHiQNneDWp

[jaunty blaze]

Why is canexx not playing active shrooms is he not a knower

[vale pebble]

ig not idk

prob doesnt care

to swap cause it doesnt matter

[harsh jungle]

Is active schroom the play?

[vale pebble]

sometimes is sometimes isnt

[dreamy locust]

FREEDOM

[harsh jungle]

Like when?

[dreamy locust]

Rio might be spyware but its not gonna break CDM addon

maybe its time I just delete all the old addons that havent worked in years

instead of just disabling

[vale pebble]

[dreamy locust]

I just turn em off and leave em to collect dust

[lucid olive]

No clue, probably starfalls on 2 I don't recall any target count conditions in there

But it should Starsurge optimally

[vale pebble]

ok

[lucid olive]

I'm not home so can't check

[lime whale]

build for nemesis boss?

[vale pebble]

that answer is good enough

[obsidian jetty]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/74oRKUpuhSeG4Uwnivompw it do be fallin

[vale pebble]

🥀

[lucid olive]

a few days ago with the overrides it was better to Starfall on 3+ both with and without kindling, and our overrides had Starfall a bit stronger than intended so it definitely is better to Starsurge on lower counts now

[vale pebble]

ye but the q was more if it does it based on talents

[vale pebble]

yer

[obsidian jetty]

sure but I assumed you meant weaver vs rattle

perhaps wrong assumption

so I picked rattle

[vale pebble]

meant like starfall talents

[obsidian jetty]

unlucky

[vale pebble]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gRsnsEd8yciQqxVxkGuZUB

wow this shit wants no right side talents

🥀

[dreamy locust]

8 min sims whats mans cookin

[obsidian jetty]

🧑‍🍳

[vale pebble]

thats the timer mate

time to tab target some stellar amps

🥀

[obsidian jetty]

peak gameplay

[dreamy locust]

Im about to go down the deep dark hole of just going like atrocity ui or something

I fuckin cba with making a new UI man

blizz is ritar

[vale pebble]

just get oiui bro

if ur stooping so low

[dreamy locust]

Wheres the link

[lucid olive]

Gamzui

[dreamy locust]

[lucid olive]

https://uipacks.wago.io/pack/gamz-ui what are u bluelessing me for

Get that shi for free

[dreamy locust]

I'm the blueless one

I also dont play 1440p unfortunately

[lucid olive]

only noobs play 1080p

[dreamy locust]

can you send me the import for BCM version?

[dull dust]

and poors

[lucid olive]

sure but the BCDM profile is probably like 2 months old at this point

https://wago.io/ccL9deG9t

https://wago.io/OIUI123 alternatively you can get this

but you need to download m33kauras

[gentle patio]

The second line is redundant, right?

in EC ST

[lucid olive]

ye

[spice roost]

so incarn and convoke sim very close ina st build for me is incarn worse by alot on say the second fight in raid since its almost single target or not much difference then convoke in actual play

vors ius i think is the name

is it safe to macro a 130 on use trinket onto incarn

[vale pebble]

yea just macro everything to incarn

u want to line everything on incarn anyways

pot u can argue u want to use manually on first eclipse

but then just use it manually and if u forget u having it in incarn can only do u good

[spice roost]

ok will do ty

[hexed warren]

if i get 259 wep from delve do i still craft 2h or better to craft 2 off pieces? stats on wep crit mast

[lucid olive]

why would a 259 delver weapon change anything

it all depends on what content you're doing and what resources you are going to have available

[carmine acorn]

where are you guys farming your 80 hero crests?

[last hornet]

Have anyone beat nulleaus ?? difficulty ?

[winged moss]

Feral or balance ? Since the buffs ?

[jaunty blaze]

Whatever you feel like

[kindred token]

🤣

[median badger]

focusin m+ mostly, dropped champ staff aswell, should i still go for crafting staff ?

[lucid olive]

why would you dropping a champ weapon now change your craft

are you just finishing normal raid and m0s and uninstalling after

[ruby badger]

do they mean the veteran 246 crafts?

[lucid olive]

no

that would make even less sense

[carmine acorn]

we're crafting 259 right

[indigo barn]

If we craft staff this week its just with sparks and no crests, and then recraft with mythic next week right?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[vital hound]

fellow blue ring enjoyer

[wet kraken]

Best practice for spread 2 target cleave fights?

Like double dragons, or Valeria and her Similarum in P2?

[lucid olive]

doing the fight

[wet kraken]

Sorry I meant

Best rotation/skill priority.

Mainly how often do we want to be redotting Moonfire/Sunfire

[lucid olive]

in pandemic

[wet kraken]

And just use 4 gcds to keep both on both?

[lucid olive]

unless twin moons can reach yes

[wet kraken]

Okay! Thanks.

Wasn't sure if re applying manually that much was throwing or not.

[vale pebble]

btw the sims are thinking u redot both wiht 1 each

and u cant make sunfire not dot both

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/raZnVR9z7psZg3EqwxUpxQ

its still better with moonfire redot both tho so yea

[wet kraken]

Thanks to both of you!

[lucid olive]

probably can with raid event spreading them out or

unless there was raid event stuff in that sim i didnt check

[vale pebble]

i mean that that is what i did

and sunfire still hit both

(or it didnt want to sunfire 2nd)

[lucid olive]

yeah

[vale pebble]

idk where u can actually see if it hits both or not

[kindred token]

Thank you so much!

[lucid olive]

whys there such a big swing between sunfire dpet on them

[vale pebble]

yea good point

sunfire hits both then

moonfire only hits one

[lucid olive]

oh hm

the profile with the highest dpet on Sunfire has Kindling

guess that makes sense

[craggy sonnet]

This was probably meant to say, spend cosmos on Starfall if you have starweaver talented

[rain jetty]

Where can I find some BIS gear for balance druid guide so I know what I need to collect from gear?

[lucid olive]

no

[stable frigate]

Any tisps for the ?? boss as boomie?

[sudden flame]

[craggy sonnet]

hm, ok.
at least that was part of the condition
actions.ec_st+=/starfall,if=buff.starweavers_warp.react|buff.touch_the_cosmos.react&talent.starweaver&buff.ascendant_stars.down

[sudden flame]

bis gear only relates to trinkets and dreamgrove.gg/balance has a trinket list, every other slot just go for max item level

[woven flint]

ty for the compendium gamz appreciate the hard work

[lucid olive]

@mighty mica can you heart react this for me

[jolly delta]

Set hunt is going nicely

[jaunty blaze]

Mail

[jolly delta]

It is what it is

[royal zenith]

Ah, the moment in the tier where people post screenshots, all proud, of their rng in gear and ilvl*

[jaunty blaze]

Just be more lucky

[jolly delta]

very proud of dropping mail tier

indeed

[royal zenith]

If it was directed at you.. I would have tagged you…

Self-report…

[rain jetty]

Even if its versality?

[lucid olive]

yes

[rain jetty]

What did you guys craft?

[lucid olive]

staff

[maiden pasture]

this ??delve as a healer is funny

[sudden flame]

afk for 20 mins ye

[carmine acorn]

I did a delve and got a staff and was like "shit i dont need staffs" so i changed loot specialization to guardian because i do need staves of those and next delve dropped a trinquet without intellect. yey me

(and i thought most trinquets have intellect anyway)

i should have selected feral tho

[dense steeple]

Our normal splits was 2 cloth pieces, 1 plate piece, and the rest mail 🙂

[carmine acorn]

if i enchant my 259 staff this week does it keep the enchant on recraft?

[lucid olive]

yes

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[carmine acorn]

thank god

[jaunty blaze]

Get that big one champ

[proven swallow]

whats the idea with playing fury of elune in the keeper build?

[lucid olive]

pressing the button as you're about to press the other button or right after you pressed the other button

if they desync and you end up holding one for longer period of time then you have already misplayed somewhere before that

[reef mist]

How bad do i grief my guild if i don't craft a two hand and hope for the mace drop of the first boss?
Background: almost everyone is crafting cause of crest save and the mace drops from the first mythic boss (we raid ~350 wr) which almost no one even able to use it..
Is the crest save so much better than "not wasting a boosdrop" if no one can instantly use it cause everyone crafted?

[dusk coral]

should we craft staff 259 or 272 with hero crests ?

[lucid olive]

never use hero crests for craft

[dusk coral]

ok i keep them

ty Gamz

[lucid olive]

its up to you

but if i had stepped foot into mythic with a champ track weapon i would've felt bad

[sudden flame]

how is it a crest save

[lucid olive]

its not he just thinks it is

[reef mist]

Thats true

[lucid olive]

its a spark save if anything

[reef mist]

2 hand Staff uses 80 crest, 1 hand uses 100 to upgrade and offhand 80 to craft doesn't it

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[lucid olive]

yeah i thought you meant waiting for the mace was the crest save

and yes wasting crests is bad

[reef mist]

alrighty, thanks alot 🙂

[lucid olive]

how is it 100 crests to upgrade

[jaunty blaze]

Isn't it baseline myth

That's 100 crests

[lucid olive]

yeah but you don't upgrade myth unless you have full hero

[reef mist]

true its 80 if i have a 6/6 hc weapon

[lucid olive]

so it should be 80 myth

sending on myth items without max hero in that slot is big waste or

[jaunty blaze]

Yeah I guess but is still hero crests invested beforehand

So it's still not just 80 myth

[lucid olive]

yeah cause you're gonna be so behind on hero crests

[reef mist]

yeah, so basically 80 "wasted" crest. But it seems like the immediate upgrade is worth much more

[lucid olive]

you also probably want your 2nd craft on quel'danas week to be a myth craft as well

myth craft on whatever slot is left over after getting your 4set (ideally gloves this tier)

Arcanoweave Lining scales off ilvl + the 285 craft on a high stat budget slot is better than having some piss useless hero item in that slot

[reef mist]

Thanks alot! That helps with the over all upgrading/crafting decisions early on a lot!

[delicate mica]

Is Nevermelting Ice Crystal any good?

[delicate perch]

[plucky valley]

Simmysimsim

I did not see it listed anywhere on the trinket tier list on wowhead boomie guide

[edgy quarry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/71gP9UF1h1FjqfrzNx5mBe Wish me luck I start raid in 40 min

[jolly delta]

I'll never understand how blizzard goes "yeah the game has become too hard to play without WAs"

And then this is their gearing system

And we don't even have valorstones anymore

[plucky valley]

Slay the dps away

[plucky valley]

Yeah gearing in the most minmax way takes a lot of research and understanding of whatever the current gearing system is

Since they change it constantly

[edgy quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-boss-cool-like-a-boss-mine-gif-21347450

[jolly delta]

I'm convinced that someone at blizzard is convinced that making something hard to minmax will prevent people from minmaxing

But they don't realize that people will do it anyways and it will just be more annoying

[maiden pasture]

Probs the same guy that thought hiding stuff behind secret values will prevent people from seeing it

[jolly delta]

Same shit as with addons and professions

[maiden pasture]

Just for workarounds to come

[plucky valley]

They should know their player base better than that

It’s only been 20 years blizzard

[jolly delta]

Well I mean

They probably do

We're not their payerbase

Their playerbase is full of people that do housing, don't do anything harder than a +6

And maybe get aotc

We're a vocal minority

[plucky valley]

Oh I see your point

[jolly delta]

But still

[plucky valley]

Which makes current gearing system even more absurd haha

[jolly delta]

Sure, I kind of agree

[rain jetty]

What should we craft and when?

[mild chasm]

good mornin, how does boomy feel with the changes?

[tiny tendon]

Like why is there any overlap in item levels if the whole point was to keep crests matching the gear’s difficulty tier

[rain jetty]

Very good

[mild chasm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/happy-home-college-ukmZRuEqc2Rbi

[tiny tendon]

I think I’m washed at boomy again

I’ll vibe check next week though

[rain jetty]

I got 4 held in off hand items today from quests and preys

xD

With versa

[wraith parcel]

So what's the verdict on boomies good or bad post-tuning? I've been playing guardian launch but I would love to go back to my fluffkin mostly in open world content and other soft core shenanigans

But I don't want to be punchline when talking about damage

[rain jetty]

For me good

Im topping everyone in m0

[sudden flame]

has balance ever been good in open world content

[wraith parcel]

As a keeper or a elune?

[rain jetty]

Keeper of the grove g

[royal zenith]

Yeh

Herb farming

[sudden flame]

[copper gate]

[sudden flame]

I mean taunt treants probably make balance better at world content than feral, but guardian will stay king of the world content for druids

[harsh sonnet]

what nameplate addons do you guys use? plater wont let me change the colour when affected by sunfire/moonfire anymore and blizzard frames are horrible

[upper cosmos]

Should I craft the two handed WEP if I managed to get a 250 MH and 253 OH?

Just wondering if I should get the WEP crafted or craft something else like a necklace or whatever.

[lofty depot]

Weapon craft no creats and recraft with myth crests next week

[sudden flame]

dont use any crests on it this week

[lofty depot]

U can't do that anymore

Time to grow up

[upper cosmos]

Okie dokie.

I am going to try to hit rank 4 delve for myth crests.

Doing m+ is too stressful to me so I am prob only getting those crests from delves

[harsh sonnet]

something that stacks better then? im having to move my camera all over the place just to try and see on big pulls, it doesn't have to have that plater feature

[pale dome]

Yeah don't craft something like a 259 off-hand weapon... Like someone has done... 🙃

[lofty depot]

I've used jundies forever

But platynator was being updated better and faster so I use that

[harsh sonnet]

thanks, could've just said that to begin with instead of telling me to grow up

[lofty depot]

Well I tell everyone that used the funny color name frame that

Because now they have to play the game

[dense steeple]

also to be fair

saying "grow up" vs "its time to grow up" have two very different connotations

one is rude 100% of thetime, and the other can be a flat statement with no animosity behind it

[lofty depot]

Well it was time to grow up when it was removed

That time has now past, and they get devil on my shoulder connotation

[dense steeple]

i was giving you the benefit of the doubt

[lofty depot]

No benefit, u know better

[dense steeple]

im at work and i left my phone in the car im so upset

[dusk coral]

uptade staff to 263 with crests and craft wrist/belt or craft staff and save champ crests ?

[lofty depot]

Are u hof delver or?

[dense steeple]

no i failed

[lofty depot]

Why r we upgrading staff to 263

[dense steeple]

i got it to 200k like 5 times before raid and i inted and couldnt get it

[lofty depot]

We are not wasters of crests

If u use crests on staff that aren't myth, u will be shunned

[dense steeple]

howd your raid go last night arctic

[lofty depot]

We moved it to today

[dense steeple]

oh ok

we did both normal splits and got 0 leather tier in either

2 cloth, 1 plate, rest mail

[lofty depot]

That's badass

[dense steeple]

our mail wearers are eating good

[lofty depot]

U also don't craft belt/wrist second

Well, the minmax is crafting off tier slot

[dense steeple]

im debating if i do any work today or just farm shit whlie at work

[dusk coral]

ok ty 🙂

[lofty depot]

I'm gonna do m0s again on main when I get home

[dense steeple]

ew

[lofty depot]

250 ilvl already

[granite crystal]

Quick question about something i am not sure to understand : We have 2 charges of CA. When we start a boss, it is worth to use the 2 charges directly, or only one charge, then eclipse, and then the second CA charge ?

[dense steeple]

i shouldve done some m0s or prey or something to boost my ilvl yesterday instead of bash my face against ?? for 6 hours

[lofty depot]

Have u read the guide

[dense steeple]

you already know the answer is no

why are you asking

just tell

[lofty depot]

To sound cool

[dense steeple]

you should read the guide friend

[lofty depot]

U don't double ca

[dense steeple]

because the answer is neither

[lofty depot]

U also, eclipse prior to said first ca.... So yea read the guide

[lofty depot]

I did prey, then delves, then m0s

Shit I gotta do 4 more delves today

So much......

[dense steeple]

thats why i wonder if i should do work or not

[granite crystal]

I read the guide, english is not my mother tongue (like many of u here I guess), just wanted to be sure I understood well. Thanks. 🙂

[lofty depot]

The opener tab shows the icons

Holy shit we're back

[dense steeple]

unholy sandbaggin

look at em down there as if theyre not a good class

[lofty depot]

Evoker always slamming man

[maiden pasture]

are delves quicker as bear or bamkin chat

[lofty depot]

Bear gang

[dense steeple]

i was vibin as boomkin

alright i should do work

good bye boomkin chat

[round field]

bye you wont be missed

[mild chasm]

what a beauty

[harsh jungle]

BAMKIN STRONG

[jaunty blaze]

Unprecedented levels of being back

[maiden pasture]

Horrible day to have a job in EU

[rigid hare]

Damn it

I wanted to use Goldrinn again

I like having him as my lil' wolf buddy

Why did they poach the wolf

[jaunty blaze]

Tbh I expected that before and didn't even bother to care for a spot

[jovial sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1rwmxfc/show_wowhead_bis_lists_in_rclootcouncil/ what a shit feature

[jaunty blaze]

Compwow

[mild chasm]

worldboss was kind to drop this for me but im wondering if that saves me from crafting the cane or should i rather build the cane cause it is so much better then this + crafted OH?

[jaunty blaze]

Doesn't change whether you craft or not

If you want to craft it'll still be 2hand

[jovial sigil]

also strenght weapon

[jaunty blaze]

Oh ye that too

[mild chasm]

oh shit i didnt pay attention to the mainstat lmao

[jovial sigil]

worldboss was not kind at all

[mild chasm]

absolutely .. glad he died xD

[jaunty blaze]

Wtf

That's rude

[mild chasm]

life is hard

[jaunty blaze]

[dire osprey]

thats EU?

aint no way

[jaunty blaze]

Both are full

NA and EU

[dire osprey]

wtf

i thought id atleast have a chance to pull the boss once before that happened

employment debuff strikes again

[jaunty blaze]

Nope

Gotta work? That's too bad

[neat cairn]

Guys how does balance look? I need to decide between boomie and potential feral / wl / shadow I’m of course raiding but mostly m+?

[jaunty blaze]

Pretty good

[sturdy pumice]

both feral and boomie are good. boomie has a better niche in the raid/M+. Feral ST is very good

[grim crater]

Yesterday I killed Chimearus and was top dpsing.

The damage buff is so good but I don't feel its too overpowered either. We're definitely not S

In my opinion lol, i haven't searched the new dps rankings

[sleek estuary]

looks like currently in the heroic bosses that have been cleared, balance is towards the bottom

[plucky valley]

Just play better

[lofty depot]

Maybe the good players haven't killed it yet

[sleek estuary]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/46

[sleek estuary]

yea maybe

but even 100th percentile boomkin is very low

[lofty depot]

Well the 100th percentile just means that's the highest those players can get

[warped basalt]

balance better than feral rn? or close

[lofty depot]

If balance can do more and the best player hasn't killed it

The 100 percentile number isn't the highest it can be

[sleek estuary]

yea i feel like that one players skill wont be that significant but well see

i do think balance will be strong in m+

[warped basalt]

u guys looking at raid?

[lofty depot]

Believe in cotti

Don't ever say that again

[sleek estuary]

hehe

[lost violet]

crafter in trade doing staff with "bad" missive and emballish. Doess that affect the stats on the weapon?

tooltip doesnt say anything, just that R2 is +15 diff and R1 is +5 stats says the same

[lofty depot]

No, it's just the difficulty

[lost violet]

so he is just gooood? making it possible to craft R5 with those R1?

[clear oar]

is any of u crafting aln'hara cane today

[lofty depot]

If he says he can do it then yes

[clear oar]

if so u doing it with champion crests?

[jaunty blaze]

No just sparks

[lofty depot]

U can't craft items with champ crests

The sparks are that ilvl

U also don't use crests

[clear oar]

i saw someone in guild craft a 272 weap

[jaunty blaze]

Ye that's not good

[lofty depot]

U should make fun of him

Make him feel bad

[clear oar]

why is that

[lofty depot]

He wasted hero crests

[jaunty blaze]

Because you get myth crests next week

[clear oar]

so i should craft it no crests and not upgrade it?

[lofty depot]

Yes

Then recraft it next week

[clear oar]

and recraft next week with myth

[lofty depot]

Yep

[clear oar]

and what s the purpose of saving champ crests

to trade into myth?

[lofty depot]

Well again, it doesn't use champ crests

The use to save hero crests.is because u will run out eventually

[misty forge]

not ideal stats but im in a pickle now - i think i just craft 2 embelsh on wrist and waist and call it a day

[clear oar]

sry if the questions seem dumb i just came back after like 5 years and still trying to make it all make sense

[lofty depot]

So u wasting 80 this week then using myth next week

[clear oar]

tyvm for the patience and the answers

[lofty depot]

I disagree but u do u

[misty forge]

would u still craft weap?

[lofty depot]

Why would u not want a mythic weapon

[jaunty blaze]

Guides on gearing and upgrading exist

Give them a peep

[warped basalt]

elune or keeper for m0s and low keys ?

[lofty depot]

We're gonna sit on a shitty vers staff

[lofty depot]

Either work

Play what u want

[warped basalt]

ye i saw its close but most of the balance druid i saw play grove

thats why im asking

and i kinda like elune more tbh

[lofty depot]

U have 4 months to play ec

Give ur brain a break

[livid jay]

arctic so sassy today

[vital swift]

*EU players

[granite jolt]

But we have a strong set so we get better with it

[lofty depot]

See now ur thinking

[clear oar]

should i add any missives to the staff or just random stats

[jaunty blaze]

Ideally you can sim which are best

[normal pilot]

mastery + not vers

[leaden seal]

hero one hander with no offhander 💀

[cerulean wagon]

I saw something in here the other day: are we still taking FoE in the KoG builds?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[cerulean wagon]

there's a lot of info int he PINS, before someone says to go there

okay, @jaunty blaze where am i fitting that in rotation wise? on CD after Incarn?

[gray bloom]

Yuck. FOE doesn't belong in Kotg

[jaunty blaze]

Ideally right before trees + ca

[cerulean wagon]

awesome, thanks Mike

[lofty depot]

Before trees

[cerulean wagon]

thanks @lofty depot

and then after all that, pop convoke?

[lofty depot]

Should go foe, Sunfire, trees

Or Sunfire, foe, trees

Why r we using convoke 👀

But yes

[cerulean wagon]

because the flashy lights tickle my tism

[coral shell]

I know it's not boomy related, but anyone would know why I don't see my combat and utility curios on my alt when I see them on my main?

[cerulean wagon]

@coral shell thats a good ass question

[lofty depot]

U have to do all the side quests for delves cuz valeera broken

Or wait for blizz to fix

[cerulean wagon]

@lofty depot so i can drop convoke, and just go Incarn

[coral wyvern]

relog

i had it happen a few times

and relogging fixed it

[lofty depot]

There's people playing both

I'm bored and want to play fun spec while I can, until we find the actual build

[coral shell]

Thank you, it worked -_-

[lofty depot]

Oh then the thing I was talking about is a different bug, thought u were getting the role bug

[snow elm]

are we only putting one point in apex?

[lofty depot]

No, who is saying that

[snow elm]

Oh these logs are bugged

Nvm Warcraft logs only shows one point for me XD

[lofty depot]

Hmm

Holy canexx blasting vaelor

[unkempt tree]

there is a change on the mark of the wild?

[lofty depot]

Bamkin so back

[lofty depot]

There's a talent that doubles it

[unkempt tree]

I use a macro like 1 years to apply but I cant apply to my self 🙁

[lofty depot]

Sussy

R u swapping in and out of talents

[unkempt tree]

yeah, maybe a bug