balance

[ruby badger]

Tap explanation on both

[lofty depot]

What the explanation say

[ruby badger]

👍

[dense steeple]

they both say SECOND craft

[lofty depot]

Belt or wrist hmm

Could be cloak too 🙂

[nimble tangle]

Yeah I found cloak has small mastery stats no good cloak in S1

[lost violet]

see if you either get the crit haste wrist or waist then craft is my go to

[copper gate]

I don’t trust wowhead I’m a devout follower of the dream grove compendium 🤲

[lofty depot]

Yea u can likely craft any of those depending on drops

[sturdy pumice]

what build is this from?

[gentle abyss]

does starfall stack should I be spamming it every chance I get or only press twice?

[nimble tangle]

hmmm AiyjieCDM has an update

and now buff is not really static anymore

[jovial sundial]

Doesnt it say on the tooltip it stacks

[sly wadi]

Starfall stacks, you can see it in your buffs when you push it more than once

[slender island]

yo, is there only one training dummy location in silvermoon? it sucks that they're all stacked together, and find myself going back to dornogal for a proper setup

[undone portal]

yea the silvermoon dummies are ass

[lofty depot]

Dorgnal towers probably good now

[slender island]

yeah thats where i go to

[cunning bronze]

What builds are you guys playing in dungeons? im playing without shrooms, something feels off

[lofty depot]

Bear currently, prob keeper next week

[sturdy pumice]

sunseeker is usable and you dont think about it

for now

[lofty depot]

He said without, maybe the last time played was DF s1 👀

[sturdy pumice]

ah nvm

[edgy quarry]

Hi guys ! Just quick question :

When I'm doing the opening I always have this situation before casting second CA, I have to wait 12-13s before use trean to combine with FOE and CA which is kind of loss no ?

[jaunty blaze]

thats normal

you lose more not lining them up

[lofty depot]

Sim actually casts trees right away and doesn't hold for the end of eclipse

U can likely do w.e. u want if ur playing control

U have 40 asp there, I would likely build more or until I got a proc

[livid jay]

yo guys can i not skip the campaign with soridormi on an alt thats not 90 yet?

[jaunty blaze]

idk probably not

[lofty depot]

Presumably u need to be 90

[patent mango]

only 90

[livid jay]

man this game

wanted to level alt doing sojourner

now i need to do mainquests to do sidequests locked behind them

[jaunty blaze]

unforch

[soft dragon]

u supposed to refresh sunfire during incarn?

[edgy quarry]

i'm trying the play the best I can to do the as much damage :/

[jaunty blaze]

no

before incarn

[graceful bone]

I´m always bottom dps with my balance druid.. what do I do wrong? I mean I´m always under the tank xd maybe if the others dont use cd´s and I do.
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/silvermoon/kalaschboom

[lofty depot]

Before incarn

[edgy quarry]

So u would wait for trean then ? to get back FOE ?

[soft dragon]

Yea but even if you apply right before incarn it just falls of during no?

Like sunfire-trees-beam-incarn

[lofty depot]

Yea and it likely changes based on fight

[patent mango]

keeper gonna be best opt for st and aoe?

[jaunty blaze]

yea but you wont refresh in the last few seconds of your incarn

[edgy quarry]

U mean if in the fight I need at this moment more damage, I can use trean depends of the situation ?

But if not i can keep it ?

[lofty depot]

How does blud sim more than feral

[soft dragon]

Ok yea that's what i was asking

Tyty

[muted citrus]

LMAO

[lofty depot]

If that's the condition, my brain might wait then send but idk I'd feel it out

Only 4 hours, nice

[lofty depot]

No

It's what 23 seconds

[sly wadi]

somethin like that, slightly shorter than moonfire

[edgy quarry]

I see... thanks man !

[lofty depot]

Yea or u need that trees at a specific time, or u don't... Or I need asp in that instance to pool

[graceful bone]

???

[lofty depot]

Link the sim

[sturdy pumice]

im thinking this for a pure ST raid

[lofty depot]

Ur doing some funny stuff

[graceful bone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vHXCdcunevvMiPfKJYfFoC

[jaunty blaze]

that has to be some cook of a sim

[frosty raven]

are you 20 ilvls below your tank cause a lot of people are 240+ now

[lofty depot]

8t 2m, holy

[lofty depot]

Uhh yea, but there's not any ST boss me thinks

[jaunty blaze]

ah yes

[sturdy pumice]

thinking of having it incase adds are dying really fast

[wild dune]

sim of all time

[lofty depot]

We're a pad class now

[graceful bone]

what do i do wrong?

[lofty depot]

Need me some meteor storm

[lofty depot]

What pull or fight is 8t 2m

Its not a sim that will represent anything useful or u should take anything away from

U shouldn't think "I should be doing this about every pull"

[jaunty blaze]

other than that you are barely max level maybe acquire some item levels first before worrying about sims

[nimble tangle]

8t 2m, not even 20 key pack can do that

[normal pilot]

you should also run latest, not weekly. that thing is actually a week old

[lofty depot]

Ope, didn't click into it, usually I do

My fault my fault

[normal pilot]

i guess the banner's still on weekly hence all the questions still

[lofty depot]

Wait, he could be doing more dam

200k surely

[normal pilot]

maybe with all the fixes

add in buffs

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[sturdy pumice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/burnt-peanut-the-burnt-peanut-15

[patent mango]

which hero talent are we running next week after buffs? for st and aoe

[lofty depot]

There's no ST bosses or something

And u'll likely need to look at warcraft logs and see what people r running

[granite crystal]

Hey guys, quick question, what is your opinion about Ellesmere UI ?

[patent mango]

make sense, thx for ur time

[patent mango]

i gave up after tons of bugs

came back to elvui

[lofty depot]

I'm trying to keep my UI pretty bare, til next tier lol

[edgy quarry]

I see.. I tried to use it on cd : When you do you have your FOE for the second part of you second CA just after trean fade, so a fully CA buff, not that bad in fact

[lofty depot]

Not dowoading huge packs

[lofty depot]

Yea I think it uses it when foe maybe is 8-10 seconds away and it has it thru the whole ca

But is good for asp gen nonetheless

[cunning bronze]

When we play Elune we allways stay in Lunar right? but when we play Keeper we switch between Lunar when we AoE, and Solar for ST?

[edgy quarry]

Yes it's what I felt ! More starsurge more proc..

[lofty depot]

Yes
Keeper is based on what builder u'll be using, which is based on target count

[cunning bronze]

Aight ty! just needed to get it clearified. But how many targets

[lofty depot]

6

[sturdy pumice]

7

[cunning bronze]

What build you guys enjoy the most?

[granite crystal]

Yeah I am pretty much the same. I'm mainly a raid/mm+ player and last patch, my only "addon" was weakaura with only something like this https://wago.io/EJ-oJ_8tb and the one for the dryads + plater.

I don't know if I really need other addons since everything is pretty much in the game now. Maybe a big spot to avoid forgeting the re-dot 😄

[sturdy pumice]

KOTG is more dynamic and adaptable to the situation you are in

si i enjoy it more

[lofty depot]

That link is from SL

Holy fuck

[granite crystal]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pennywise-dig

[sturdy pumice]

stellar flare tracking ftw

[lofty depot]

There are more customizable stuff for the cdm

Addons like arcui, bettercooldownmanager

[granite crystal]

Alright, thanks !

[lucid olive]

ayijecdm

[lofty depot]

I lied it's starfire 4+, starfall at 3+

[lucid olive]

could probably recreate that in ayijecdm

[nimble tangle]

@lucid olive new AiyjieCDM patch kinda is messy

especialy buff group settings

[hybrid sonnet]

Poping Heart of the Wild in Bear Form and then switching back to Moonkin form. Health bonus stays (30 % more hp). Is intendent or bug?

[edgy quarry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xu6jF6j2Dvs3yuDB2WA5Ba

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nAjhegBTeKf4DdaPSoeFCx

convok and without convok pretty the same... maybe on short combat + combat with amp convok and the other one for more long combat ??

[lucid olive]

nobody knows except blizzard

for now thats how it works

[edgy quarry]

Hard to know what to play in fact...

[jaunty blaze]

its very easy actually

you wait until ppl have raided tomorrow

than you go on lorggs

and see what they took

and then you copy that

[lofty depot]

Wont know to we get in raid I assume we might use convoke on 1 boss

[lofty depot]

This

[edgy quarry]

Yeah you're right...

Salad'har like we supposed with gamz few days ago ?

Urgent to wait

https://tenor.com/view/girl-spinning-waiting-bored-chair-gif-12572632970262008618

[lofty depot]

1m convoke gogoogog

[snow elm]

whats the st for kotg vs elunes like?

[normal pilot]

ec convoke?

[lucid olive]

EC ahead by a few thousand

[snow elm]

thats interesting

[lucid olive]

not rly

the difference was always close

people usually only remember the one that is played

[snow elm]

they need to lower the cast time on starfire 😭😭.

[ancient adder]

Icy Veins Balance Druid guide is updated for Season 1 Midnight. Includes builds for both EC and KotG. Let me know if anyone notices anything off and i can fix it before day 1

[edgy quarry]

Is it already online ?

[fathom blade]

is this spreadsheet sims a bait ? how tf elune is better then choosen for st ?

[lofty depot]

EC was better in st last tier

[jaunty blaze]

Because math says so

[lofty depot]

no one played it still

[fathom blade]

tbf i will not play elune in raid lol

[stoic grotto]

its better on st when you play perfectly

which is a big asterisk

[haughty sluice]

and when you dont have to move

[fathom blade]

so never kek

[sturdy pumice]

you might in the paladin fight

[fathom blade]

Its not ST tho

[lucid olive]

spreadsheets are always a bait

[jolly delta]

the only sane take

unless....

[normal pilot]

what does the wowhead guide say

will gamz become the new tettles

[pallid bay]

do not get gaslit..

[normal pilot]

is kotg his kyrian

[pallid bay]

he'll change last second though

[jolly delta]

stop reading guide writers ask llms

[uncut roost]

We're playing Kyrian again!?

[jagged stirrup]

what were playing in raid

i mean hero talent

[lofty depot]

likely keeper, depends on fight

[jagged stirrup]

mono build ?

[lofty depot]

ill reiterate.... depends on fight

[jagged stirrup]

if you have cleave talent build i take it

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

look at wowhead, then when raid comes out look at logs

[jagged stirrup]

cause i have only st build

[jolly delta]

I guess we can replace gamz

unlucky

[unique remnant]

Talent?

[normal pilot]

hm it doesnt' even reference wowhead

[fossil sedge]

whats better for m+ warlock or boomy

[normal pilot]

gamz truly replaceable

[fossil sedge]

still trying to decide what i wanna main

[haughty sluice]

better than 99% of the replies here 😄

[lofty depot]

huh

[jaunty blaze]

Flip a coin

[lofty depot]

that shouldnt be correct tho

[normal pilot]

lock you get to flip 3 coins, balance only 1

3 > 1

[lofty depot]

cuz it was used on soulbinder

and then everyone used on soul hunters

[normal pilot]

don't argue with AI otherwise we'll have to replace you

[lofty depot]

soooooo 96% fake, shouldve said "make no mistakes"

[fossil sedge]

is boomy looking good for m+

[lofty depot]

p good

[jaunty blaze]

It's sure one of the specs

[normal pilot]

it'll be good enough for ppl that aren't hardcore enough to run multiple alts for fotm

[unborn perch]

Imagine if they had made EC lower Starfire cast time rather than pumping its damage

[ancient adder]

um, it was supposed to be

a few headers are messed up, fixing those now

im taking the stab and saying elunes is gonna be decent but kotg is more applicable. To be technically right i listed both haha

[waxen cosmos]

starfire cast time

[ancient adder]

haste crit spec

🙏

its honestly more of a wrath spec

lotta wrathing still

[quiet drift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349493016355668050/1405578755216511047/1x.avif

[waxen cosmos]

oh - i doooont think the rotation page is updated then

wait im wrong, its the headers you were talking about

ignore me

[ancient adder]

yea

i just pushed an update

has to get approved

then sent

should be fast

[snow drum]

Wod boomie was so much fun

[glad umbra]

if we play EC we want same stats as M+ gear right ? (mast/hast) or we still want some crit

[ancient adder]

crits really good

[delicate perch]

[ancient adder]

but yea

sim it

[glad umbra]

yea

[fossil sedge]

with the m+ build do we cast wrath at all for ST or do we always starfire ?

[delicate perch]

you would just add non high vers slots and sim them tbh

mastery gud

[ancient adder]

its the same thing yea

outside of eclipse

at least

[delicate perch]

surely they change that

[ancient adder]

id rather wrath

tbh

[delicate perch]

fair

[ancient adder]

no eclipse bonus

even slower cast

[delicate perch]

guess it does lower the starfire spam which is the downside of the talent

[glad umbra]

wrath seem better without eclipse/buff

[lofty depot]

bora spotted

[ancient adder]

yo

[lofty depot]

outside of eclipse on st ye

[waxen cosmos]

convoking with celestial alignment?

[ancient adder]

on st with elunes

[lofty depot]

if u play convoke yes

[ancient adder]

still good for keeper

[lofty depot]

u should be aligning ur cds with eachother yes

[waxen cosmos]

i ask cuz the rotation portion doesnt mention it but the build has you taking it is all

[ancient adder]

the section below talks opener/cd rotation

[waxen cosmos]

long day at work :3

[ancient adder]

formatting can be a bit funny but it trims down each section

[glad umbra]

thx for your work on guides guys btw ❤️

[ancient adder]

i thought it might make it easer to read than a long 20-30 point section

[lofty depot]

just know that u send convoke wiht ca

and u ca with foe

as is with keeper

u trees with ca, and u convoke with ca

[molten yoke]

is there going to be a raid balance guide? Are people running mostly cleave or ST KOTG?

[waxen cosmos]

it absolutely does my brain already fried in general so tytyty

[ancient adder]

i think its a little early to tell

iv isnt doin raid guides anymore

but as far as my expectations

[lofty depot]

wowhead is updated

[ancient adder]

i think itll be alot of kotg

[lofty depot]

icyveins soon, dreamgrove soon

[ancient adder]

nah the iv raid guides got no traffic

[molten yoke]

where is the wowhead raid guide for void?

[ancient adder]

so they torched em

might bring them back later

[lofty depot]

well i just increased it by 1

ur welcome

[lofty depot]

what are u looking for specifically "Raid guide"

are u looking for the reaid specifically or the spec

[sudden pawn]

talents per boss probably

[molten yoke]

is there a guide that shows best builds for each boss?

[lofty depot]

cuz u asked about keeperrrrrrrrrrrrr but now ask raid guide for void....

[lofty depot]

no

maybe end of the week

cant make "best" builds when u dont know how bosses actually work

[glad umbra]

u ill see that with the logs end first 1 week

[ancient adder]

also the difference between the builds are very minor

you swap nb for ak basically

[odd verge]

Does the proc that gives 3 seconds of solstice add on to the 6 seconds from entering eclipse? Like if you enter eclipse with a proc and use it right away you have 9 seconds?

[ancient adder]

i dont think theres a fight where you will just mass aoe

[molten yoke]

Nb and AK?

[fossil sedge]

should we be EC or KOTG for m+

[lofty depot]

yes it does

but also, if you have solstice already and u enter eclipse, it resets to 6

[trail heath]

So use after

[lofty depot]

theyre talents, Natures Balance and Aetherial Kindling

[lofty depot]

depends where u are.. if the sequence u were gonna do is starfall then eclipse, yea u shouldved eclipse then starfall'd

[minor anchor]

Can someone please explain whats this opener thing with Eclipse into FoE into Incarn

i dont get it...

[ancient adder]

whats not to get

[spice roost]

is foe ahead alot or are other talents very close and we can not run foe

[ancient adder]

its incentivized to get into cds quickly and you spend a charge of eclipse so its on cd

and it comes back up

[spice roost]

for kotg incarn build

[ancient adder]

for the kotg build, its to get your AP quickly

[minor anchor]

i dont get why its good to waste the solstice uptime and Pinacle talents dmg and instant cast

[ancient adder]

after spending your ascendant eclipse stacks

well you use it all

[lofty depot]

soooooo u wrath x3, dot dot, enter eclipse, surge/wrath spam (3 surges).... build to 50ish, sunfire foe, trees, incarn

if u dont have u foe before building to 50

[minor anchor]

am i being gaslit

[ancient adder]

sorry the header

is wrong

its elunes

[lofty depot]

can u zoom in

im old

[ancient adder]

i pushed an update already

[minor anchor]

step 4.3/4 perhaps?

[odd verge]

Thank you!

[spice roost]

im just going to wait for compendium

[minor anchor]

ok thats cool

[ancient adder]

its just mathematically better to fury of elune there

but its also the elunes opener

the header is wrong

after the opener its better to foe inside incarn

[minor anchor]

nono i mean the opener

[ancient adder]

where possible

[lofty depot]

soooo this is true

i just dislike it

well its not mathematically better

its neutral to move that sequence around

[ancient adder]

idk if the new apl has been pushed to raidbots

[minor anchor]

this is a raidbot quick sim on kotg st wowhead talents with incarn

[lofty depot]

it did yes

[ancient adder]

the infinite hold apl

[minor anchor]

I just wish to know

[lofty depot]

uhhh what talents

[ancient adder]

the last sims i saw

had you wait

[lofty depot]

wait to what

[lofty depot]

can u link sim

[ancient adder]

you would solar eclipse > 3x ss > build to 60 > incarn

[spice roost]

no goldrinn is sus

[minor anchor]

yes

[lofty depot]

and not a picture

[minor anchor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/278M6JZLL4EgAuvPYQbxrx

[lofty depot]

ye i wasnt disputing that

just the foe placement can change

[lofty depot]

weekly

[lofty depot]

fix

[minor anchor]

perhaps my bad

[lofty depot]

yea that foe sunfire trees grr

but changing it to sunfire foe trees doesnt matter

[minor anchor]

ok cool its normally now i was really having a hard time comprehending that

[lofty depot]

CLASS TUNING

[ancient adder]

haha

sometimes it takes a minute to get on the same page

also looks like it doesnt build

back to 60 anymore

[stoic grotto]

nothing for druid

[ancient adder]

i can remove that part

[lofty depot]

r u looking at his sim or

[ancient adder]

looking at forbidden sims

[tame socket]

guys please wtf is the blance rotation this shit makes no sense

[lofty depot]

smh

[ancient adder]

whats up?

[minor anchor]

Do you want the latest for comaprison?

[ancient adder]

uh the way im seeing it, theres alot of minor iteration going on right now but the base is very solid

[ancient adder]

id imagine any changes would be minor

[lofty depot]

in the sim gamz posted it still has

so idk

but sometimes u get procs so ur over it and dont need to build

ie the one in the listed pin

[spice roost]

if u get a proc for cosmos in opener do u send a ss or starfall

in raid

[ancient adder]

cosmos procs are sf with kotg and ss with ec

on st

[spice roost]

ok ty

[tame socket]

are there any dedicated addons to just track astral power?

[spice roost]

ya theres bars

[tame socket]

bars?

[spice roost]

u can use that or theres others

[tame socket]

perfect ty

[spice roost]

is this even in opener with apex

[ancient adder]

just a general rule as far as im aware

[lofty depot]

if u have the eclipse buff u surge it

[stoic grotto]

is this still true after the coming tuning

[lofty depot]

if its the start of eclipse with the ascendent eclipse buffs no

u prefer surge

if u got all 3 buffs, the 2 weaver buffs and cosmos, u would surge surge starfall

[frigid aspen]

weird one, whenever I put CA in a macro its greyed out and wont cast

[stoic grotto]

our rotation is starting to get quite complicated

think

[lofty depot]

did u just swap from orbital strike

[stoic grotto]

please dont tell me this bug is still in the game

kekW

[frigid aspen]

i guess? i havent logged into druid since tww

just yoinked a talent build

[lofty depot]

potentially

[somber copper]

Raidbots is yelling at me that druid sims are unreliable, do we know how unreliable they are?

[lofty depot]

i was just asking

[ancient adder]

ok looks like

that has changed

fkk

[lofty depot]

ye it changed ikd a few days ago

when gamz did some funny "surge more" sim

its only 0.1% tho

(iirc)

[ancient adder]

yea

whoopsie

once the last one gets pushed ill fix that as well

[wintry umbra]

gaze of the alnseer still stier after the nerfs a while back?

[ancient adder]

yep

[lofty depot]

yea that and vaelgor

[wintry umbra]

ty

[nova ocean]

Lol

More nerfs to it

[paper isle]

what about now

[lofty depot]

uhhh

[nova ocean]

Lol

[lofty depot]

find out tuesday

its like what 8 stats total

[ancient adder]

ah it was just nerfed again

🙂

[drifting nova]

is there an ilvl addon

[ripe slate]

rip alnseer

[delicate perch]

[fervent harbor]

I am so bad at balance I died at level 90 by the plants that spawn when you pick an herb in Zul Aman. Think it is time to uninstall

[spice roost]

yup uninstall

lol

[trail heath]

Why were you not in flight form?

[fervent harbor]

i was but you get extra stuff from herbing them when they die

I also have 0 clue how to play balance

[lofty depot]

have u considered playing bear in open world

[drifting nova]

is there a one button hotw macro yet

[fervent harbor]

Yah just figured it would be a good way to learn i know bear is pretty hard to kill just takes a while to kill stuff

[lofty depot]

bear is not hard

u could play that spec not reading ur talents and slam

[fervent harbor]

like is balance one of those classed more meant for Dungeons/raids where you are not getting hit

[lofty depot]

meh

[trail heath]

Balance is also just bad right now

But #soon

[daring gull]

19% buff are we so back or we stay dooming?

[ancient adder]

back

[daring gull]

hell yeah

[drifting nova]

19% buff..still going to lose to bear

[spice roost]

not true

[daring gull]

https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016

[daring gull]

we're not rets

[proven rampart]

i haven't really looked at the fights this tier yet but i heard there's not many ST fights and a lot of spread aoe which sounds nice

[drifting nova]

wake me up when the shitty inhouse dung filter doesnt reset settings every run

[fervent harbor]

sorry for delayed question but is balance getting a buff tommroow?

[delicate perch]

yes

[lofty depot]

theres only been 1 fight recently where we were good at split cleave

[trail heath]

The worst

[lofty depot]

granted we have a new talent that speeds up starfall, just need to subvert expectations

[drifting nova]

inb4 the premade filter doesnt get a season update

[jade flume]

A big one

[frigid vault]

does anyone know what astral power tracker to use now with weak auras gone?

saw this one from a tettles video, looks cool

if anyone knows what it is

[lucid olive]

that looks like his ArcUI setup

idk if the AP bar is from somewhere else tho

[trail heath]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/senseiclassresourcebar

I like that one

[fervent harbor]

i forget what bar i use to have maybe it was part of WA but once you had enough AP it would change colors

to like cast starsurge or starfall

[lofty depot]

twintops can do that

i prefer threshold lines

[elder remnant]

Hello totally normal and not fake simmers

[jolly delta]

that's feral

we would never

[loud kettle]

Feral is not normal

[drifting nova]

check pc

[stuck willow]

Any way we can see what eclipse we are in on the sides of our character like it use to be b4 midnight ? Now the symbols just briefly shows up 2 sec after entering a eclipse (we track it rn with the built-in stuff i know)

[violet fern]

[lofty depot]

u could move the icons to the end of ur cdm

[lucid olive]

probably need an addon to recreate it

[stuck willow]

Theres spell activation overlay addons for early expansions that did this before it was implemented in the game, but now its gone again

[violet fern]

@elder remnant you're not good at the game ok? You have bad parses and they're probably hidden by the owner on wcl, everyone knows what that means, you are the csh of OCE and no you are not naguura

[stuck willow]

If anyone knows a addon or method to do this please tagg or dm me ❤️☕️

[drifting nova]

imagine if you could have multiple versions instead of just 1

[proven rampart]

i played mage in TWW so i've been out of the loop, why was that?

[red nymph]

cause needing to dot for full damage from mastery was ass

[proven rampart]

makes sense

[lofty depot]

that and really that most of the time those didnt live long enough

[drifting nova]

take us back from whatever this is tho

[lofty depot]

@balancedev again i ask that u not listen to kekkers

[drifting nova]

maybe just maybe watering down mastery so much so

that its a passive modifier

is a warning of removal

[lofty depot]

water down mastery to make hte class more complex

[red nymph]

arent most(or all) masterys just passive modifiers. what classes actually play around their masterys?

[lofty depot]

or rather more interactive

[drifting nova]

well they are now yeah

dumb down masteries, remove masteries

pretend vers is a real stat

[red nymph]

as long as vers is THE pvp stat, it was always have bad base scaling and be weird for pve

[drifting nova]

it's always been bad

even as a pvp stat it's bad resi

it just has use in both pve and pvp

[solar slate]

is there a highest dps build for KOTG? or just follow wowhead?

[true viper]

wowhead

[ripe slate]

spriest stonks have returned to the moons

[nova ocean]

Have they? I have no idea wat the first part with the developer note did

[solar slate]

is convoke better than useing incarn?

im running out of keybinds with controller ❤️

[lofty depot]

apparently like 104k

[nova ocean]

Lol

[lofty depot]

16% aura + all that like = 9.5%

i pray for my spr brethern

[vernal pollen]

my alt is spriest D:

[red nymph]

i think it was something like <1% in pure ST but if there is any cleave whatsoever, incarn is better

[woven flint]

aight going back to shadow

[red nymph]

those 20-30 sec stretches of not being in an eclipse feel so awkward

i know the set bonus will help with that gap but it still feels so wrong after several expansions of "always be in eclipse"

[wicked shuttle]

in M+ it's pretty infrequent

in raid definitely more of a thing

[elder remnant]

Help

Reject eclipse

Don’t even put the button on your bars

Be free moonkins

[dull dust]

why is skulpt the stars simming good

[nova ocean]

Isn't that ur job now

[dull dust]

no

[nova ocean]

O

Well if it's true it's ur fault anyway

[dull dust]

why number

[misty kernel]

is bal better than feral in keys

[drifting nova]

yes

[elder remnant]

Especially if the Feral has to move

Isn’t that right @lofty depot

[vital hound]

i thought that was a secret

[severe siren]

sorry if silly question i havent played in a while but is there a better option than blizz tracker for eclipse duration

[elder remnant]

Mike is typing

Wrong Mike

[elder remnant]

[lofty depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891006249565552650/1473799372910104880/peanut_mm_hmm.gif?ex=69b9cd20&is=69b87ba0&hm=f13f5a3813a1e530b70199e2ac7b85ec3fcb0b8fa5623e1112fc1934fbfe005e&

[lofty depot]

arcui and ayjie as different ones i think. but i just use icons idk

[merry ibex]

oh did they finally fix the horrible armor clipping on the harandar

now they just need to add actual error messages to them

[spice roost]

has anyone tried ellesmere ui

[lucid olive]

@lofty depot

[lofty depot]

i havent

im watching what people say and bugs that come up tho cuz i assume ill swap eventually

(i assume s2 tho)

maybe not if someone else comes up with other shit

[dull dust]

dw blizz will fix their by then

[spice roost]

haha ya ok

[dull dust]

man ive like barely played the game last 2 weeks

im gunna be so rusty in raid

[vital hound]

im v curious

about tuning tmrw

https://tenor.com/lOk6BjxzEtk.gif

[lofty depot]

whoopsie poopsie

[dull dust]

both specs i play got buffed

john blizzard loves me

[spice roost]

whats the next best node if choosing to not run foe in kotg incarn build

for raid

natures balance?

[lofty depot]

sim it

[spice roost]

i just did ya it just finsihed came up as sculp the stars ??

meteorite is 100 dps more looks like

[dull dust]

SKUPLTTTTTTTTT

LETA GOOO

[lofty depot]

link the sim

[spice roost]

nah u can sim yourself u made me

lol

foe comes out a few hundred ahead

[lofty depot]

well thats not why i caared

[dull dust]

sim yourself

https://tenor.com/view/boat-kid-aura-farming-pacu-jalur-indonesia-boat-race-aura-farming-kid-gif-13961136228978115920

[lofty depot]

i will not

im pressing mushrooms for final level

[spice roost]

lol

[dull dust]

what

arctic i improved the name

[lofty depot]

lol

[dull dust]

druid druid is now cheeseburgerx5

[lofty depot]

valeera level

[dull dust]

valeera?

oh

i forgot she was the delve lady now

[normal pilot]

hm trying to hack raidbots time to call the police

[dull dust]

[normal pilot]

guess we forgot to strip unicode from names

or actually this code was prolly written years before emojis were even in unicode

[dull dust]

dont do it

cheeseburger must live

🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔

[spice roost]

like letting a child free into a candy store

[normal pilot]

oh we just strip out <>& so you can't mess with the html

[echo field]

are there sims out yet?

[normal pilot]

you'll be able to sim your charater tomorrow when servers go up

[dull dust]

guys sims work

[normal pilot]

hopefully blizz won't forget to push any changes

[dull dust]

[grim crater]

when are mythic keystones opening up?

it isn't tomorrow right?

[spice roost]

24th for na 25th for eu

[sharp valve]

is Dreamgrove fully updated?

[lucid olive]

no

sometime tomorrow

depending how long i sleep it might not be updated for when NA is up

[loud kettle]

gamz...

[normal pilot]

nobody'll be able to log in anyways

[vital hound]

when is dreamgrove updated @lucid olive

[loud kettle]

I need to know what talents to run for every raid boss gamz

[dull dust]

gamz showing eu favortism again

smh

[loud kettle]

Wowhead is banned by my isp :/

[vital hound]

gamz hasnt been the same since vinter added payments

[dull dust]

gamz didnt even send me the feet pics he promised when i started work on the apl

[loud kettle]

That's messed up

Wheres the honor?

[dull dust]

ik!

[eager raft]

I know what the guides gonna say but I’m gonna keep it to myself

[dull dust]

i can make something up

[normal pilot]

is gamz gonna pull a tettles with kotg or ec

[dull dust]

lore pls

uwu

[normal pilot]

back in SL kyrian was best covenant and NF was behind by 5%+

[eager raft]

The kyrian incident

[normal pilot]

so all the guide writers wrote it

[dull dust]

oh that

[normal pilot]

then 1 day before launch blizz buffed NF by 10%

so many poor moonkins baited by tettles

[lucid olive]

honestly if i didnt play thru the kyrian campaign in my first tier

i woulda stopped

ardenweald big stinky zone

[normal pilot]

ok wtf is ctrl-F not a hotkey to the search box when you have the talent window open

[lucid olive]

are you logged into the game

[high finch]

anyone have a good UI to share for balance? Elvui or something elkse

[lucid olive]

https://uipacks.wago.io/search loads of free ones on here

(and some paid ones if you like that)

[normal pilot]

i need you raiders to start buying massive amounts of gold to drive token prices down

i still have millions i need to liquidate

[lucid olive]

stocking up for a new call of duty or what

[normal pilot]

idk i've funded years of presents for family/friends that game off blizz $$

not sure what their next game is tho i've heard cod7 was pretty shit

[lucid olive]

yeah thats smart investment

[normal pilot]

just need to replensih my account

[lucid olive]

i have friends as well who just gift steam games to nieces and nephews

secret tech

[normal pilot]

they've had some real flops for their past few releases i think

[lucid olive]

when was the last tier you raided

[normal pilot]

i still have this

[lucid olive]

hell yeah

at least you got that socketed

[dull dust]

probably was bis this week for balance

with how bad the numbers were

[acoustic zealot]

is boomy APL still cooked?

[lofty depot]

no

[acoustic zealot]

Can't use droptimizer without getting this message. Am I doing something wrong?

[lofty depot]

doesnt have anything to do with droptimizer

ur not doing something wrong

[normal pilot]

use latest build

you really shouldn't be using weekly ever

[lofty depot]

wait is that now the only time it pops up

[normal pilot]

weekly is literally a week old at this point

i think the commit hash is from mar 9 or something

[lofty depot]

ok so u took it off

kk so weekly still shows it

erhm k

[normal pilot]

it's prolly still buggy just not full of bugs

[lofty depot]

well yea i know that but my assumption was that it was still there

so i know now that its just the normal weekly people

[acoustic zealot]

Thanks for the help y'all. Swapped it to latest and it's working

[vital hound]

you're welcome

[spice roost]

glyph of stars eww

[vital hound]

location noted

[true viper]

How do u play this man

[eager raft]

belameth dummy is the lab

i am in the lab cookin somethin up

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bXpZW.gif

[true viper]

Genuinely what is that

[past knot]

Is this real?

[true viper]

Ai

[jaunty blaze]

We are still posting the sheet

[vital hound]

"we"

[past knot]

Anyone got a link to that spreadsheet?

[jaunty blaze]

No

[dull dust]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spongebob-squarepants-breathing

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bXsEZ.gif

[copper gate]

With the compendium still in the works is wowhead or icy veins more accurate

[lofty depot]

wowhead, bora updated icyveins. opener changed a little bit after he did so tho

i need to read it to make sure hes telling truth tho

(should be fine)

[pseudo merlin]

we casting doubt on Bora

what the helly

[lofty depot]

i didnt say that

i said i need to verify

[pseudo merlin]

who's gonne verify you

[lucid olive]

Who watches the watchmen

[lofty depot]

like when ur mom gave birth to u.... and the doctors did the test for mental illness yet i have to check every day u dont have it...

[pseudo merlin]

[lofty depot]

mmhm mmhm

[pseudo merlin]

the patients running the asylum

[jaunty blaze]

[vital hound]

wrathing in there

is so goofy

[pseudo merlin]

Anyway you can't bring me down, not today. We are so back.

[vital hound]

whats the damage diff

[lofty depot]

its more like that prison in el salvador that is controlled by the inmates and hte guards stay outside of it

[lofty depot]

wrath where

[pseudo merlin]

You mean that place that looks HELLA chill and fun

[lofty depot]

sheep taking too long

im trying to go to sleep

[vital hound]

this fella

[lofty depot]

what u trying to not press it?

thats - dam dawg

its an instant cast

fucking press it

[pseudo merlin]

sheep trying to unminmax

boomer

trying to minmin

[vital hound]

i cbf man its heroic

[pseudo merlin]

hey heroic is real content for many people

[vital hound]

dots ecl surge surge ca convoke

cya

[lofty depot]

ur bringing the boomkin community down by not pressing buttons correctly

[vital hound]

good

fkn

[spice roost]

surely end boss heroic is hard somewhat week 1

[lofty depot]

what the helly

[pseudo merlin]

they need some of that tbh

[vital hound]

learn a thing from the warlocks

and sandbag

ya fkn idiots

[lofty depot]

what the

how u sandbag having no damage

how u sand bag from 0

heal the boss?

[jaunty blaze]

That's what they will say anyway

[vital hound]

watch me

[pseudo merlin]

Warlocks keep sandbagging

shadow priests going to fly under the radar

this tier gonne be ours

[lofty depot]

cant wait for psybear to complain all rwf that feral is shit

surely i tune into that

[pseudo merlin]

huhhhhh

[jaunty blaze]

But the sheet

[lofty depot]

ok i eep, have fun

[round field]

And yet boomies get flamed on twitter for "sandbagging"

[jaunty blaze]

Why else would we get 20% aurabuffed

No other explanation

[round field]

Surely its not because the spec did less dmg than tanks

[pseudo merlin]

boomie wasnt even in a bad spot before

always complaining

smh

[ancient adder]

No rattle build yet

Tomorrow

Need to put rattle build and remove the old cosmos thing

Ec is correct

Bed tho

[worn sail]

gotta love wow devs when they put that in the patch notes

[dreamy cove]

if I upgrade agi 2h do I get 100% crest discount on int 1h/oh?

[vital hound]

yes

[dreamy cove]

thanks

[delicate perch]

only if the agi item is for bear

if its for feral you pay double

[dreamy cove]

huh how does that work don't they wear same items?

[jaunty blaze]

[delicate perch]

I am baiting you

sheep was right dw

2h = both "slots" of the weapon

[dreamy cove]

🗞️

[delicate perch]

[delicate perch]

it's just that easy sometimes

[jaunty blaze]

Real

https://tenor.com/view/gullible-gif-23847583

[royal zenith]

All of you^

[harsh jungle]

So is crafting a 2hander this reset the right choice for a mythic raider?

[delicate perch]

proof?

[royal zenith]

Saw you looking

[jaunty blaze]

I posted it and looked

[jade flume]

For casters it is since theres no staff in first 2 raids

Not sure if there is an int mace or sth

[jaunty blaze]

Int crit vers from first boss

But its yuckie in terms of crest efficiency

[harsh jungle]

Yea then I’ll craft a 2 hander

[jade flume]

I meant 2h mace

Idk if theres any

[jaunty blaze]

I dont think so

[jade flume]

I think pretty much all casters will craft a weapon

We are waiting in case something changes to craft, but realistically we are all gonna send it mythic week

[royal zenith]

what about exponentially

[round field]

Maybe

Maybe not

Mby just wait for first vault

Cause if u craft

U will loot 3x 2h in vault

[hybrid sonnet]

Question:
Is there any faster way to change gear in sim? or i have to change gear in the game, export string and paste it into sim?

[round field]

topgear

just click on all the items

done

[jaunty blaze]

Top gear also has a search function for items you don't have

[round field]

lowkey just remove everything other than topgear and droptimizer from the site

[dull dust]

i need advanced

[round field]

you think you do but you dont

[dull dust]

[pallid bay]

never listen to iqni

[dull dust]

[round field]

advanced sim wont bring back the lack of handeye coordination you posess

[dull dust]

hes making compelling points

[round field]

its all propaganda

[royal zenith]

does it compensate your lack of brain @round field ?

GOTTEEEMMMM

[round field]

uh

no?

[royal zenith]

oh

[round field]

thats what i just said

for living in such an advanced country youre pretty primitive

smh

[pallid bay]

iqni will sound unreasonably angry and express strong opinions about something he has given less than 5 seconds of thought

[royal zenith]

it's better to act primitive and dumb

less questions

[royal zenith]

this is true

[round field]

this is incorrect

i usually think about things for a solid 6-7 seconds

[pseudo grove]

Does balance have a good damage ratio for raid this tier ? Alot of hectic cleave

[round field]

depends how long stuff ends up living

stix type fight?

good

soulbinder type fight?

not very good

[vale pebble]

da shrooms bomb mate

u be hittin the lb

[pseudo grove]

Its cooked then these adds dying fast

[round field]

doesnt that button do like

negative dmg

[vale pebble]

nono

[round field]

i think ur lying lowkey

[vale pebble]

we are back to voti mate

[round field]

[vale pebble]

yes mate

sunseeker on 1 target

it has same sp as a surge

[round field]

i still think ur lying

[pallid bay]

sunpooper

did they buff it

after the nerf

[round field]

show m+ log

of mushrooms

and ill believe you

[pallid bay]

or our talents are just that shit

[vale pebble]

le pad

and this was before

mushrooms got buffed 50 times

[round field]

hmm

i think ur lying still

[vale pebble]

i think ur albanian

[round field]

remind me 2 weeks

[vale pebble]

sure u will get proven wrong

[round field]

ok we dont have to resort to such insults

[vale pebble]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01JXN9570E3YHMW8HJN3Y4NA1T/4x.gif

[round field]

ok but it has to be fake

he has nooberts in guild

while we have astro padders

[sturdy ridge]

whats the current build for mythic +? do we use mushrooms?

[round field]

xathir will pop everything on adds and they die before u press 2nd shroom

[vale pebble]

bro thats me on testing

[round field]

ye

with random noobers

[vale pebble]

with id

ok next one

[round field]

exactly

random nooberts

ptr is fake anyways

[spice roost]

its ok to admit defeat

[round field]

every ptr boomi has hidden 50% aura buff

[vale pebble]

u probably do mate look at wowhead guide

[sturdy ridge]

thank you!

[round field]

sounds liek something a loser would say

never accept defeat

[spice roost]

lol keep digging then

[jaunty blaze]

Always blame team

[round field]

why are u even

getting inbetween

[royal zenith]

🤡

[round field]

me bantering with my gm

[spice roost]

idk im just bored lmao

[round field]

same

[dull dust]

wanna make out

[round field]

this u

[royal zenith]

iqni's skills are as bad as my will to play wow

[round field]

no ty

[royal zenith]

gottem

(again)

[dull dust]

gey

[round field]

thats like

opposite of gey no

[dull dust]

no idea

[round field]

how about u get some bitches on ur d instead

[royal zenith]

nah we celibate for life

Ive tried and tested my luck, it's all joever

[round field]

fair

arent u like 35 already

expired unfortunately

[royal zenith]

half-dead

well not expired

I'm like peak

[vale pebble]

i want you to go janny apl mate

[round field]

im having

[vale pebble]

#370242469360828416 message

chop chop

[dull dust]

what does that mean

[round field]

rly bad wow withdrawal tbh

i need help

stockholm syndrome ass game

[dull dust]

same

[round field]

i will buy xpac lvl to max

step foot into 1(one) m+ dungeon

and be miserable

[royal zenith]

this is true

[junior thicket]

get urself banned

[royal zenith]

reminds me of cancelling sub when I get home

automatic renewal that is

[vale pebble]

details

[round field]

why would u do that

[royal zenith]

the day and age of wow is gone

[round field]

im just getting omega c from anything competitive recently idk

[vale pebble]

[round field]

log in slay the spire and enshrouded tbh

just vibe and build dirt hurts

im not very good tho

[dull dust]

small gain

[vale pebble]

how much

[dull dust]

0.2 leme play with the durration a bit

[royal zenith]

yeah this is real

[fringe warren]

New to balance. We don't use wrath at all in single target when specced elunes chosen right?

[vale pebble]

u need to also make sure u do the reverse

becasue u will proc a cosmos outside of eclipse when ur dry at 3+min

[royal zenith]

pmuch ye

[vale pebble]

and u cycle the 15s in eclipse 15 out of eclipse

when it is out of eclipse it becomes better when ur out of eclipse and u go inside of an eclipse

[dull dust]

idk what that means

like just before a eclipse is up or

like

[vale pebble]

its ok link the sim after ur done

ill fact check

[dull dust]

ok

[vital hound]

fuckin

chicken

absolute tops profile pic

tft was peak

[royal zenith]

bedtime for you sheeplet

[vital hound]

shut up cop

[royal zenith]

or else..

[vale pebble]

bro this is not from tft

what are we saying

[vital hound]

frozen throne

[vale pebble]

oh

[vital hound]

none of that

[vale pebble]

whatever bro

who says

tft

[vital hound]

i cant click good chess game