#balance
pseudo merlin
royal zenith
lofty depot
Except tettles when we start talking about basketball
pseudo merlin
or hair
round field
tettles doesnt count as a mod
lofty depot
What the
royal zenith
that's a good one to keep 100p
minor anchor
mark my goat
pseudo merlin
that's a good one to keep 100p
u playing the new poe1 league?
royal zenith
ye
pseudo merlin
damn i thought you were a poe2 purist
jade flume
diablo 4 new season is out
minor anchor
Good One
jade flume
aint no way people play poe
pseudo merlin
is there warlock yet?
jade flume
no, end of april
pearl pivot
next week diablo 3 season is coming
jade flume
real?
minor anchor
The ARPG Glory days where a D3 season would come out like 3 weeks before a poe league and you would chain those
pseudo merlin
d5 is gonne be great
jade flume
i wish poe was good
minor anchor
You mean Diablo : Immortal Reincarnated ?
pseudo merlin
no d5
jade flume
maybe poe2 will be one day
pseudo merlin
development has already started
minor anchor
im all in on Poe2
runic kindle
I like poe2, druid feels incredible in that game, I hope they go back and fix some of the combo skills to feel a bit more like druid because I'm not a big fan of how some of the earlier released classes combos feel to use.
Once you get some items later in the game that sort of stuff kinda fixes, but the early game in poe2 is a lot more of a game than poe1 imo and I feel like it should feel good all the way up
pseudo merlin
just make volcano great
runic kindle
i'm also in the waiting for RF templar camp because thats my favorite poe1 build lol
minor anchor
...
runic kindle
shield charge and everything near you dies is fun and chill its like playing vampire survivors
minor anchor
redisgn the engine so the devs can make the sickest animation known to man
"let me play RF"
runic kindle
look I don't ALWAYS play RF, I just like it lol
runic kindle
I'm not asking for 0/1 button, I fully expect them to do some stuff where you have to ramp up the RF with combos and I think that sounds fun.
pseudo merlin
so... calamity
runic kindle
I just want the game feel of the original classes combos to be improved a bit. Lightning spear on huntress feels a little rough early for example.
pseudo merlin
but better I guess
runic kindle
yeah more or less
like I'm not saying buff the skills, just like....improve the feel of the interactions between the skills. Druid feels so smooth.
you can tell its the newest class released is what i'm saying
runic kindle
it is a bit too on rails thats fair
pseudo merlin
also volcano and bird fireballs are dead
runic kindle
for RF I imagine it'll be something that like, increases in intensity as you either consume a mark of some sort, or like, activates very powerfully, but briefly under certain circumstances.
pseudo merlin
That should just be like an alternative gem option for calamity
where it turns from an uptime skill to a bossing skill that just ramps up
runic kindle
yeah I mean however they wanna do it. As long as it has a similar feel to original RF, with just a bit more active gameplay.
round field
ravenous frenzy mentioned
runic kindle
different RF unfortunately lol
pseudo merlin
replace starfall with righteous fury
patent mango
guys, for this tier which is the safe pick feral or balance ir your opinion?
lost violet
always play balance no matter what
mild chasm
thats sexey
minor anchor
Guys do you think I should play to not waster Starlord, eg I have 70 AP + Cosmos proc + 3 seconds of Starlord stack. Should I, in this instance 1, consume to proc and wait for Starlord and solstice to drop off before eclipse or 2, just send the eclipse play it from there ?
lofty depot
I'd have to look, I assume u send eclipse
minor anchor
Truly?
reef ocean
According to latest sims yeah..
void hound
According to latest sims yeah..
Link
lofty depot
It simmed higher than keeper last expansion too
jaunty blaze
lofty depot
Doesn't matter, Sims aren't meant for practicality
reef ocean
jaunty blaze
Oh wow
jaunty blaze
Not really
lost violet
EC if you have pocket healer and dont do mechanics sure, but have to move once? the kepper wins i guess
jaunty blaze
But cba discussing why
lofty depot
Yeah so ig you can play w/e
That's not what that means
jaunty blaze
Where is that ec salesman from last season now
lofty depot
Casting Starfire while doing mechanics is surely fun
jaunty blaze
Real
lofty depot
ST in a raid filled with adds. Mmhm mmhm
jaunty blaze
Bigger numbie more gooder
vernal pollen
this is why Feral will be the best spec in the game and we'll see 3 of them in every RWF comp
sudden flame
lofty depot
Idk, ferals doom posting would have u think otherwise
rare hedge
thats sexey
It’s Monday before szn 1
minor anchor
Ret + Ferals in melee
leaden gazelle
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GKshVVe_RAXO0I7kFnmg4Nu7kkqbJRV4GItbUHCv...
This is ST ?
rare hedge
Compendium WHERE
minor anchor
it might be doomed
sudden flame
i heard you have to move in raid so we are cooked according to the sims
tawny cloud
Is there an addon that helps with innervate? what gives a callout if people ask for innervate?
minor anchor
This keeper spec
reef ocean
This is ST ?
Yea
minor anchor
has so much movement
past summit
Hey guys, I have a question: do you think Boomie will be okay in raids with the 20% buff? Are there any sims out yet?
lofty depot
i heard you have to move in raid so we are cooked according to the sims
Show ur logs so I know u don't move mmhm
jaunty blaze
Yes they will be
lofty depot
Hey guys, I have a question: do you think Boomie will be okay in raids with the ...
Will be fine
Usually u have to wait 4 weeks for a buff
jaunty blaze
Haven't looked that good going into a season for some time
past summit
He absolutely needs to buff the apex taleng
jaunty blaze
Who is he
lofty depot
John blizzard?
past summit
Apex talents are really awful.
maiden crest
is crafting staff with embelishment next reset the best option?
minor anchor
Does anyone have the Tier set dmg gain % table on hand?
jaunty blaze
it's a good option
minor anchor
is crafting staff with embelishment next reset the best option?
Very likely
leaden gazelle
Usually Boomy is stronger in AOE/cleave than ST no ?
jaunty blaze
Not last season
lofty depot
Usually boomkin is avg at best at both
jade flume
wait, is elune starfire spammer build simming more than kotg st?
jaunty blaze
A few hundred deeps apparently
gentle scroll
In a vacuum yes
jaunty blaze
If that's even correct
jade flume
holy we're back
vale pebble
wait, is elune starfire spammer build simming more than kotg st?
yes mate
sadly u prob wont play that build
past summit
However, in raids, since there are quite a few AoE bosses, will we be playing in Elune?
jade flume
i'll copy dsune like always
vale pebble
mate ur healer prison anyways
lofty depot
However, in raids, since there are quite a few AoE bosses, will we be playing in...
Thats not what that means
jade flume
dps only
lofty depot
U can play keeper on aoe fights, we played keeper on stix just fine
Sadly won't play EC, ain't no way
carmine acorn
mate ur healer prison anyways
My issue is that i was going to tank in m+ this season because i dont want to have queues, and now it seems its healer prison, but healer still has queues., so i think ill tank prison anyway xD
past summit
U can play keeper on aoe fights, we played keeper on stix just fine
Yes, but Elune Sim is higher up, right?
maiden crest
is there a full moon build or is it just too hard to min max? or is it just undertuned
lofty depot
Ok, and sims are the practicality of raid
carmine acorn
isnt EC easier to play therefor closer to sims ? xD
lofty depot
No
reef ocean
Yes
lofty depot
If every frog tries to play EC u'll do less than arms
vale pebble
isnt EC easier to play therefor closer to sims ? xD
yea that ec build is easier
compared to the weaver kotg
past summit
After the sims are bugged
carmine acorn
If every frog tries to play EC u'll do less than arms
i didn't get it xD
vale pebble
cause of lunation
copper gate
The number of EC salesmen in this chat!!!!
jolly delta
Sadly won't play EC, ain't no way
past summit
So, for the first craft, we're going with a two-handed staff?
jolly delta
After the sims are bugged
What's bugged
copper gate
So, for the first craft, we're going with a two-handed staff?
I’m spamming the refresh button on the compendium I’m not believing anyone in this chat until my boomkin bible is ready
jolly delta
Druid sims are not fully tested and may still have bugs.
They're generally fine now
Especially if you use the default APL
carmine acorn
I’m spamming the refresh button on the compendium I’m not believing anyone in th...
word
past summit
And this is a simulation with the 20% buff?
lofty depot
Druid sims are not fully tested and may still have bugs.
That message was there so u don't take things as gospel when we were testing apl and bugs
If u put in the override lines yes
jolly delta
And this is a simulation with the 20% buff?
Which one are you talking about
jaunty blaze
There is no 20% buff 🤓
past summit
That message was there so u don't take things as gospel when we were testing apl...
Ok ty But can I already use this as a good foundation?
jaunty blaze
They are good to go
copper gate
royal zenith
damn i thought you were a poe2 purist
Not a purist of anything
lofty depot
Depends what ur looking for in said foundation
copper gate
even like both Monster and Red Bull...
Blasphemous
lofty depot
What flavour monster tho
carmine acorn
white
past summit
Which one are you talking about
Well, Wednesday's buff was announced by Wowhead as the class adjustments
jaunty blaze
Why are we fr*nching
vale pebble
🥀
fossil hemlock
Why did flavor auto correct to flavour
Did you install the US to UK addon
copper gate
🥀
lofty depot
Holy fuck my phone is cursed surely
carmine acorn
what's happening
past summit
There is no 20% buff 🤓
Why do you say that?
jaunty blaze
Because its not 20%
pseudo merlin
even like both Monster and Red Bull...
...
jolly delta
Well, Wednesday's buff was announced by Wowhead as the class adjustments
Wednesday's buff is included in the pinned sims. It is not included if you sim normally on raidbots
past summit
Because its not 20%
jaunty blaze
That's a
round field
are we just gonna ignore the other lines that come after?
vale pebble
Because its not 20%
pseudo merlin
are we just gonna ignore the other lines that come after?
yes
round field
understandable
past summit
are we just gonna ignore the other lines that come after?
In pure mono, the other lines don't make much difference.
lofty depot
Smh trolling frogs, how could u
pseudo merlin
pure mono
vale pebble
truthnuke
round field
In pure mono, the other lines don't make much difference.
the only thing thats mono is the amount of braincells u posess
carmine acorn
the only thing thats mono is the amount of braincells u posess
calm down prestianni!
round field
calm down prestianni!
nyo
past summit
the only thing thats mono is the amount of braincells u posess
Excuse me, sir, you're here to enlighten me, so tell me exactly what this buff is. What percentage, with the following lines, did you make the simulation yourself, Great King?
lofty depot
Excuse me, sir, you're here to enlighten me, so tell me exactly what this buff i...
Read the pin
round field
Excuse me, sir, you're here to enlighten me, so tell me exactly what this buff i...
yes why do you ask?
slender island
do we have any verdict on which weapon embellishment is simming the highest for us? the buff sim in pin shows "hunt" but the tooltip for that is very vague ("increase secondary stats depending on enemy type") and it seems to me getting the "wrong" stat would suck
lofty depot
Well the sim says otherwise
carmine acorn
the sim is on specific conditions, right? xD
past summit
I should have been more precise: do the Sims take into account Wednesday's adjustments? Is that okay with you?
lofty depot
And or the "right stat" is gooder anyway
lofty depot
I should have been more precise: do the Sims take into account Wednesday's adjus...
Which sims
The one in the pin does
vale pebble
do we have any verdict on which weapon embellishment is simming the highest for ...
do u know what the embellishment is called?
slender island
do u know what the embellishment is called?
"Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt"
pseudo merlin
what the fuck
vale pebble
"Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt"
for raid most of them are good
u dont care about vers pretty much
rest doesnt matter
lofty depot
Critter 👀
vale pebble
one thing to note
luura doesnt have a type
so maybe just doesnt proc off that
would be arse
jaunty blaze
Arctic about to learn every critter position in the raid
slender island
yeah im not a fan of the ambiguity of it all
minor anchor
that boss CANNOT be pulled for 3 weeks
vale pebble
i think something something
lofty depot
Arctic about to learn every critter position in the raid
Oi was doing it
vale pebble
the other good one is bugged
jaunty blaze
What the helly
vale pebble
and raid just gives u good procs
but yea luura only one that would suck on
but by the time u get to mythic u can just recraft
so 
if u care about m+ unsure
like only care about m+ or care more than raid
slender island
care only enough to get my weekly 12s, care more about mythic raid
lilac citrus
we still rocking haste mastery or has crit become better ?
jaunty blaze
Sim it
vale pebble
we still rocking haste mastery or has crit become better ?
its like
m>h=c
ish
depends build
slender island
the other good one is bugged
is that the Rot one? dmg proc?
vale pebble
dont think anyone actually checked what is causing haste and crit to swap could be rattle/weaver ec/kotg inc/voke
prob all of the above
vale pebble
is that the Rot one? dmg proc?
i forgor
shadarek said some shit in the why he crafted weapon video
i can look at that if u care enough
past summit
And is the weight of versatility less with the squish?
lofty depot
dont think anyone actually checked what is causing haste and crit to swap could ...
Smolder more likely
slender island
if you have the video handy id be glad to have a look, sure
vale pebble
Smolder more likely
what
vale pebble
if you have the video handy id be glad to have a look, sure
yea its shadarek on youtube
the dh guy
lofty depot
Smolder big dam, big crit
vale pebble
Smolder big dam, big crit
yes mate but do u unspec smolder in any build
slender island
and he has a vid from last week on why he crafted a weapon
lofty depot
No, I'm saying that it causing it to be good
vale pebble
yea
slender island
cheers
vale pebble
its 1kg of feathers
pallid bay
crazy
vale pebble
very versatile if u ask me
copper gate
Is it true boomkins gather around in a circle in game and do a little /dance for 5m to bring good fortune in the coming tier or nah
Just a rumor going around
minor anchor
Confirmed
tender elbow
Is it true boomkins gather around in a circle in game and do a little /dance for...
100% real
copper gate
ok dm me the location ty
jolly delta
Stop posting this doc
round field
Stop posting this doc
why
jolly delta
Because it just spreads misinfo
copper gate
Refs time him out for a week
vale pebble
Because it just spreads misinfo
nothing ever matters mate
past summit
Stop posting this doc
I didn't originally post this; I reposted it to elaborate on my point.
jolly delta
i see boomkin number is correct
Potentially, maybe not
round field
so ur saying the pin is potential misinformation
jolly delta
it is also potentially correct because gamz took the time to send the correct numbers
round field
ur not better than them
jolly delta
Do you know anything about the other classes?
past summit
it is also potentially correct because gamz took the time to send the correct nu...
Well, that's why I asked if it was really reliable.
round field
same old same old
jolly delta
Well, that's why I asked if it was really reliable.
Sims are never a reliable way to do comparisons between classes
vale pebble
feral dogshit as per usual
pallid bay
not reproducible
vale pebble
truthnuke
round field
what about feral 🙂
benched for prog as usual
round field
i think the doc is correct
round field
(i havent even bought the xpac)
past summit
Sims are never a reliable way to do comparisons between classes
Yes, I agree, but it's a good basis to build on. The facts are still convincing: weapon warriors are useless, and demo is good.
normal pilot
Its not a good basis
jaunty blaze
My source is i made it the fuck up
past summit
Well, I'd say it's a basic information base, maybe not necessarily very good, but there's enough information to get an idea.
normal pilot
No its not
jolly delta
Well, I'd say it's a basic information base, maybe not necessarily very good, bu...
It's just info that seems easy to understand and digest but it lacks a mountain of context
jaunty blaze
Ye very good idea to think ec will be the go to spec
jolly delta
That when added makes it obsolete
round field
what context
normal pilot
Sims simply are not made to compare classes with each other
round field
is there context to sims
past summit
It's just info that seems easy to understand and digest but it lacks a mountain ...
Yes, I agree, it really needs to be taken with caution.
normal pilot
Every class has different standards they develop to
jolly delta
is there context to sims
The APL used, the gear used, the consumables, whether simc is correct
vale pebble
yes
jolly delta
all sims are fake
They're the best way to evaluate gear upgrades for a character
round field
understandable
round field
They're the best way to evaluate gear upgrades for a character
what if simc isnt correct
jolly delta
because if you run the same kind of sim on your character then you get relative results that give good information
past summit
is there context to sims
Well, since the raid has a lot of enemies and isn't purely single-target, that changes things a lot, I think, because they're often pure single-target simulations, and it also depends on the fight's duration.
Because the sims are often made in 5 minutes
loud kettle
Even just the fact that its 1t 4-6min already makes it not representative of the raid
round field
because if you run the same kind of sim on your character then you get relative ...
wrong
copper gate
Boomkins will be the best PI target I have seen it
round field
if its wrong its wrong
jolly delta
what if simc isnt correct
Then unlucky, but usually people catch most bugs
In here at least
idk about other classes
round field
I remember
when ele sham simmed with wrong lvl lightning bolt
for like a few patches
that was funny
jolly delta
the embellished boots incident 💀
round field
not the boots 💀
past summit
the embellished boots incident 💀
Are you talking to dragonflight?
jolly delta
yes
vale pebble
Then unlucky, but usually people catch most bugs
is that true tho
round field
i think its ragebait
past summit
Yes, but it's still a case that's not all that frequent.
vale pebble
i think so as well
jolly delta
is that true tho
Well depends on what your acceptable error rate is
lofty depot
Boomkins catch all the bugs
vale pebble
acceptable error rate was
round field
0%
jolly delta
no one was tcing first month df
vale pebble
and we just didnt see that
normal pilot
Well, since the raid has a lot of enemies and isn't purely single-target, that c...
that's not the problem with the sheet
vale pebble
the fattest goat was
normal pilot
the problem is comparing classes
past summit
After that, I think that given the raid fights with lots of addg, Boomie will be good, that's for sure. As for the pure numbers, that's another matter.
jaunty blaze
It's just as useful as tierlists are
normal pilot
yes pretty much
dawn chasm
I usually play rdruid and tweak my own build for comfort and whatever fits my gameplay depending on what content, but I'm new to boomie and have no clue where to start from, dreamgrove still says its not up to date and wowhead/icyveins seem to have different builds and I don't know anything about who writes what and where's to get the "better" info and there's no content to try stuff in right now since everything that's available dies in 10 seconds. Where do people get info on boomie ?
vale pebble
you just dont know what you don't see
yea thats my point
past summit
The fuck is daddling
I'm with the translator, I'm talking about the add
lofty depot
I usually play rdruid and tweak my own build for comfort and whatever fits my ga...
Gamz writes both the wowhead and dreamgrove guide
jolly delta
yea thats my point
yeah my point is that if one or two errors slip but 100 get fixed then i'd say its a pretty good job
past summit
The fuck is daddling
The other little monsters with the boss
round field
padding?
royal zenith
https://tenor.com/view/cat-stretch-kitty-gif-15910659
me
round field
yes
boss dmg is the only thing that matters
if boss doesnt die adds dying doesnt matter
past summit
I usually play rdruid and tweak my own build for comfort and whatever fits my ga...
Here haha
lofty depot
if boss doesnt die adds dying doesnt matter
If adds kill me faster than I kill boss, what do
round field
If adds kill me faster than I kill boss, what do
yell at healer?
past summit
there's links to 3 different guides here
What exactly do you want to know?
lofty depot
Oh shit, Roger roger
dawn chasm
What exactly do you want to know?
build and rotation, just to start from somewhere. all 3 of those are saying slightly different things
lofty depot
I will state again, read wowhead
royal zenith
thanks for your input arctic, I will read dreamgove.gg
lofty depot
😡
dawn chasm
I will state again, read wowhead
thanks, is there a reason the other 2 are linked if wowhead is the better info source?
royal zenith
build and rotation, just to start from somewhere. all 3 of those are saying *sli...
there's basic rules for balance druid that are pretty much similar in every guide
they all use the same source of information
person writing it will have a few different ways of describing, that's all
lofty depot
thanks, is there a reason the other 2 are linked if wowhead is the better info s...
Because we support content creators
normal pilot
wowhead isn't always the better source
currently it's the most actively updated but that's not always true
lofty depot
dreamgrove , hasn't been updated will soon..gamz just has a deadline on wowhead
royal zenith
you take all the guides, you check which information overlaps, you learn, you play, you improve
past summit
@dawn chasm What you can do is base your rotation on Wowhead in 1zr base and come here to confirm certain information about the rotation with the experienced players, and there's Twitch.
past warren
Best is crafting 2h and 2 items with embellishment (not using spark) for wednesday right?
royal zenith
rinse and repeat
normal pilot
wowhead itself has nothign to do with the quality of the info on it, it's whoever writes it
royal zenith
^
jolly delta
Because we support content creators
do you now 
past summit
thanks, is there a reason the other 2 are linked if wowhead is the better info s...
And I advise against Icy Vein; it's no longer a good source of information. Wowhead is better now.
past summit
wowhead itself has nothign to do with the quality of the info on it, it's whoeve...
Very, very good point.
royal zenith
do you now <:SUS:1255955773918544005>
content creators, not designers!!
dawn chasm
ok thanks for the info, it's just not very clear when you're not in the circles and don't know people by name
normal pilot
you'll just have to learn who the pp lare if you want to follow good info
sometimes wowhead is dogshit for a spec while IV is the go-to
jolly delta
content creators, not designers!!
designers
I am deeply offended
royal zenith
(design is part of creating content hehe ecksdee)
past summit
ok thanks for the info, it's just not very clear when you're not in the circles ...
No worries, but I also recommend you go on Warcraft Log when the raids are released and watch replays of the fights. Focus on a Boomie and watch their rotation during the battle.
minor anchor
The Battle
past summit
You can see how he manages the rotation at certain times when he plays his CDs, and Warcraft Log is a very good information
obsidian tapir
does this work in raid/m+ or only outdoors ?
jolly delta
does this work in raid/m+ or only outdoors ?
Only in the Voidstorm
past warren
Best is crafting 2h and 2 items with embellishment (not using spark) for wednesd...
Will bump this again, if any1 minds helping 😊
jolly delta
thank you for the response was wondering
(It is also written in the tooltip)
past summit
Will bump this again, if any1 minds helping 😊
You'll be able to craft with veteran crests starting Wednesday.
normal pilot
er not raid, dungeons
jolly delta
oh does it not work in raid at all?
Well I didnt check in raid but im pretty sure it didnt work in dungeons
lofty depot
You'll be able to craft with veteran crests starting Wednesday.
U don't craft it with veteran creats
obsidian tapir
(It is also written in the tooltip)
someone in my guild saying it buffs the trinket as well
past warren
Yeah, so 2h with embellishment and 2 crafted items with veteran crests?
jolly delta
Maybe I looked at the wrong thing
loud kettle
Ive heard it works in instances
past summit
U don't craft it with veteran creats
Yes, but we'll be able to craft without sparks using veteran crests, right?
obsidian tapir
Maybe I looked at the wrong thing
lofty depot
Yeah, so 2h with embellishment and 2 crafted items with veteran crests?
U don't necessarily need 2 vet items crafted if u have embell on weapon, unless u need the ilvl somewhere
obsidian tapir
the buff on top is higher
lofty depot
Yes, but we'll be able to craft without sparks using veteran crests, right?
If u use sparks the item is 259, veteran is far lower
That item I don't think can be crafted with veteran crests
minor anchor
It cannot
past warren
So. 2h with spark and embellishment and one more item with vet crests for another embellishment or?
lofty depot
Yea the spark items don't use the adventurer or veteran crest
lofty depot
So. 2h with spark and embellishment and one more item with vet crests for anothe...
Yeet
past warren
With the arcanoweave embellish
past summit
Yeah, so 2h with embellishment and 2 crafted items with veteran crests?
Apparently that's it, yes
jolly delta
works in raid and outdoors
how do u know about raids
vale pebble
might fix might not who knows
past warren
Okay thanks everyone
vale pebble
how do u know about raids
how do u not mate
its everywhere
farm trinket trinket good
bugged in raid they might fix
jolly delta
yeah but that was beta
vale pebble
yea so
normal pilot
you can't rely on beta shit
vale pebble
still works outdoors
past summit
Can craft pvp items too
It doesn't take long to do apparently, but it's really to push the optimization to the max, are you going to do it yourself?
vale pebble
not in that zone
jolly delta
yeah I checked once for the frequency and it seemed lower
lofty depot
It doesn't take long to do apparently, but it's really to push the optimization ...
I'm a degenerate so yes
vale pebble
(unless they hotfixed it last 2-3 days)
jolly delta
but maybe I just fucked up
lofty depot
But that minmax is tiny as fuck
past summit
I'm a degenerate so yes
😝
normal pilot
the duration or stat value is prolly the easiest to check in an instance
past warren
Also. Maybe a dumb question, but i assume that's what this discord is for. On bosses like Overgrown Ancient on Academy, or Lithiel on Murder Row where there is alot of small mobs being spawned, do I only use a SF or two, or do i actually spend gcd's on moonfires aswell? Feels like the mobs die before i get MF's off on all mobs and start casting Starfire and Starfall?
normal pilot
rppm would be annoying since you still can get lucky on 2 vs 4
jolly delta
Also. Maybe a dumb question, but i assume that's what this discord is for. On bo...
That depends on the fight and on how long stuff lives, with the mastery change this is less important
And I would probably not mf all the small ones in AA
past summit
However, something happened yesterday that put me off: the price of enchanting certain rooms just for a little bit of avoidance...
lofty depot
Also. Maybe a dumb question, but i assume that's what this discord is for. On bo...
Depends when u get there low keys prob not, assume u sunfire
But u can Starfall some
past warren
So don't spend gcd's on MF if it feels like it's dying too quick, only do a SF or two?
lost roost
Dreamgrove still has the disclaimer about being a work in progress. Anyone know if there are plans to update in the next 24ish hours, or is what there's now the final version before heroic raid?
lost roost
Cool...thank you!
severe osprey
With potentially worse info
Good, we have to sandbag in Heroic week anyway don't forget
celest dirge
Hey all…. Stupid question, my guild asked me to re-roll balance instead of Resto… I saw the tuning changes, but in a state how is Balance sitting in a raid standpoint overall damage wise? Will I be sandbagging or comparable to most specs
royal zenith
feral is doing better, if you're comparing specs
but you'd have to check in an actual raid
sim dps is w.e.
normal pilot
why do they want you to dps when you've been a healer
feral is prolly more familiar to a resto player?
jolly delta
feral is prolly more familiar to a resto player?
People that catweave are like 5% so probably not a good assumption
normal pilot
oh unlucky
celest dirge
I heal to get into groups to be honest for m0s it’s just faster. I did catweave mostly towards the end of TWW so not a foreign concept
normal pilot
balance is reliant on standing still and casting, altho not as much as before, so that can trip up some resto players used to a lot of instants
celest dirge
But I’m now expected to be a chicken come thurs just trying to get some feelers out there on how people have felt balance to be so far and if that 20% tuning change was a positive improvement or not enough
normal pilot
it's good enough to make things within margin for blizz
quartz void
Any idea when sim might be fixed?
celest dirge
Can only take so many Reddit comments with a grain of salt with their incessant whining on how underperforming balance was
cedar forge
going to reddit is a big mistake
normal pilot
well balance was very undertuned
normal pilot
but that's generally not a problem since eventually blizz adjusts things to be closer
round field
it got buffed by 17%
19
royal zenith
19% *
quartz void
Chat GPT😂
celest dirge
You must not read Reddit posts LOL about tuning changes
lofty depot
Balance felt good to play, it was just lacking tuning
normal pilot
you don't really have to worry a spec is going to be 'unviable' come raid time
lofty depot
Then again, life long balance player... Maybe the new players hate it
normal pilot
you might still be bottom dps at times but that's part of acceptable for the game
celest dirge
I mean to be fair at best we are a AOTC guild so realistically anything will be viable
quartz void
Then again, life long balance player... Maybe the new players hate it
Know when sims will no longer have big warning sign?
royal zenith
Only whining I see is pure damage and people disliking eclipse button
normal pilot
there's no ETA it's a work in progress eventually it'll go away
lofty depot
Know when sims will no longer have big warning sign?
The warning sign is so u dont take the sims as gospel
The sim works, and if u find any bugs u can report it
jolly delta
Report them to arctic
lofty depot
Mmhm mmhm
loud kettle
Arctics fault if there's any bugs
vale pebble
does this work in raid/m+ or only outdoors ?
it does have a cannot be used in raid/m+ tag on it - not sure if im looking at the correct thing tho
obsidian tapir
it does have a cannot be used in raid/m+ tag on it - not sure if im looking at t...
I tested it in m0 and it does work
lucid olive
You must not read Reddit posts LOL about tuning changes
That is true, I enjoy my sanity
vale pebble
I tested it in m0 and it does work
yea but m0s arent in this tag
this is after u like
start a key
obsidian tapir
yea but m0s arent in this tag
yea make sense
vale pebble
and u have the funny debuff
and they patched it after testing on feb 10
so im assuming they fixed it there
tawdry quest
For the 19% buff in the pins for tomorrow's tuning, I'm assuming that's st? Do we have any approximate numbers for keys/aoe pulls?
vale pebble
and it doesnt have zone tag so its bugged so it works everywhere no matter if ur in voidstorm or not
just not in m+ or raid
lucid olive
For the 19% buff in the pins for tomorrow's tuning, I'm assuming that's st? Do w...
Nothing reliable no
Can assume it's the same relative increase, maybe with bigger difference on like 10+ targets because of the 4set change but that's not really relevant
tawdry quest
Just wondered with the starfall nerf how much of an aoe balancer that ended up being to the aura. Still assuming a buff but
tawdry quest
Sry. Typo.
obsidian tapir
and it doesnt have zone tag so its bugged so it works everywhere no matter if ur...
Thank you so much
lofty depot
Don't worry, the qa guy typo'd too
vale pebble
Thank you so much
*i could still be wrong
lucid olive
And it doesn't matter much, the biggest difference was the bugfix on the 4set
lofty depot
Starfall overall didn't get nerfed, the likely just didn't want to buff it as much
Which kinda sucks, cuz m+ looked a little low. But shrug
tawdry quest
So is it safe to say then that aoe is still buffed despite the wording of the post, just maybe a bit less than st
lucid olive
Yeah
lofty depot
U do more than Starfall in aoe
obsidian tapir
*i could still be wrong
I will test it on the rest and see in raid
lofty depot
U just don't notice half of it
lucid olive
I guess theoretically on like 40 targets you maybe lost damage because of 4set fix
obsidian tapir
go test in an old raid
Oh yea
vale pebble
go do that and report back
copper shore
What is the probability that Blizzard will change how the Eclipse work? I really dislike the Eclipse Button
lucid olive
Less than 100% and more than 0% to happen in the next 2 years
royal zenith
What is the probability that Blizzard will change how the Eclipse work? I really...
0%
lofty depot
Seeing how they left eclipse the way it was for 2 expansions, not likely
lean sun
0% chance they change it middle of an xpack lol
copper shore
sadge
obsidian tapir
go do that and report back
🫡
lean sun
but it gets reworked every few xpacks so more than likely will happen again at some point
royal zenith
It will only change if the developer themselves don't like it
not because of our feedback
lofty depot
Maybe u'll like it when u do more content. Cuz it's objectively better
U likely dislike the feel cuz ur not used to it
Play a certain way for 4 years, that's going to naturally happen
obsidian tapir
go do that and report back
Test it in mana forge omega alpha etc and it works
earnest flame
vale pebble
Test it in mana forge omega alpha etc and it works
yeah ok they fucked up the id
there are 2 voidlust spells
they do basically the same thing
only one of those 2 has the not in raid/m+ tag
and thats not the one that procs from the trinket
so yea tldr it will most likely work unless they change it until then
obsidian tapir
Thank you 🙏
hybrid sonnet
Hi guys, im quite new to retail sim. I’m trying to sim my dudu, currently 242 ilvl and the outcome is 31k. Seems wrong for me. 5 min, 1 boss. Any advice what i’m doing wrong?
lucid olive
Hi guys, im quite new to retail sim. I’m trying to sim my dudu, currently 242 il...
link your sim
kindred pecan
Hey everyone, I was wondering about crafted gear. Is it better to craft weapon and go for all M0 gear or stick with me M0 weapon and fill in my low ilvl gear with crafts?
lucid olive
Hi guys, im quite new to retail sim. I’m trying to sim my dudu, currently 242 il...
linking your sim is just copy pasting this
lofty depot
U'll likely craft 2h next week.
lucid olive
Hey everyone, I was wondering about crafted gear. Is it better to craft weapon ...
you will swap out m0 gear early
kindred pecan
ok thanks!
hybrid sonnet
link your sim
thx 🙂 priv
jolly delta
too shy
exotic perch
U'll likely craft 2h next week.
no im getting a myth 2h in the vault silly
lofty depot
This guy is hacking
exotic perch
i think im 3 tiers in a row on my druid for that
sly wadi
built different
lofty depot
I've never gotten a weapon
covert coyote
I got that brackenhide mast/hast staff week 1 in DF, what a boner inducer
sour rampart
I've never gotten a weapon
royal zenith
Nance just says whatever to sound popular…
manic plume
isn't that what kekkers does
lofty depot
Nance just says whatever to sound popular…
"hello my fellow kids" or
Kekkers says whatever
There's no condition besides the one in his head
lucid olive
isn't that what kekkers does
no kekkers doesnt care about popularity
kekkers just says shit
lucid olive
and then you get that one time every 5 months where he answers someones question in a useful way
but thats how he keeps you on your toes thinking that maybe this time he has changed
sly wadi
dang Gamz, tell us how you really feel
light locust
Sorry for noob question.
What combat pot is balance going to use?
WoWhead guide says Light Mainstat, Icy-veins guide says Void secondary stat.
Is this another sim yoself type situation?
lofty depot
lights potential
nimble tangle
shall we track ascendant ecplise and balance of all things
sly wadi
practice make space monke into stronk space chicken
sick terrace
hello guys, just saw some sims claiming we gonna play Elune in raid ? what ur opinion about it ?
normal pilot
it's mechanically worse than kotg so you'd play it if it was sufficiently higher in dps
nobody knows if it's at that point yet
sick terrace
i saw less than 1k diff in sims between both tree
lofty depot
hello guys, just saw some sims claiming we gonna play Elune in raid ? what ur op...
that sim doesnt claim we play ec in raid
ec simmed more than keeper on ST last tier. EC in raid isnt practically good
u maybe play it on paladins boss
sick terrace
ok thank, i dont enjoy playin elune in raid, feels so bad
normal pilot
nobody really does for gameplay
lofty depot
dont play what u dont like
royal zenith
play what you do like (devourer)
sick terrace
i was just wondering if it was a simm mistake or a real thing
lofty depot
its not a mistake
jaunty blaze
blizzard doesnt do those sims
lofty depot
what boss is patchwerk 5m with no adds
sick terrace
yes they put random numbers together and mix
lofty depot
(clue there isnt one)
royal zenith
haha that's so funny arctic
lofty depot
what i say thats funny
royal zenith
exactly
lofty depot
nice
round field
hello guys, just saw some sims claiming we gonna play Elune in raid ? what ur op...
In practice ec will be a lot worse than keeper
Unless theres like a stand still never press wasd boss
jaunty blaze
both are fine to play
frigid galleon
do we know if feral or balance will be higher dps for raid yet with the tuning? Sims help with that yet or not out?
lofty depot
Raid isn't out, so no
frigid galleon
Raid isn't out, so no
ya, thanks, was hoping sims might shed some light, but, I get waiting for raid
lucid olive
Sims are not useful for this unless the entire raid is single target boss on a 5 minute fight
jaunty blaze
judging by pure st sim numbers feral is ahead but thats not indicative of how a spec performs in raid
lucid olive
Making assumptions and decisions based on sim numbers across every class isn't recommended
lucid olive
You can probably make assumptions based on sims within a class or within a spec
but across every class it doesn't really say anything
true viper
Classic sim propaganda
lucid olive
Those sim lists are only used for the first few weeks before the season anyway
After that they are only checked in dogshit guilds when someone tries to defend hoarding Power Infusion
and people go on to use the wclogs statistics page and take that as gospel instead
which is more accurate than the sim lists at least
jaunty blaze
if only ppl wouldnt take them at face value
velvet badge
Hey chaps , would it smart to craft 1h dagger and offhand tommorow? got 0 luck on m0 weapons wowhead showsing 2h
jaunty blaze
no
lucid olive
Hey chaps , would it smart to craft 1h dagger and offhand tommorow? got 0 luck o...
don't craft a weapon before you hit a point where the extra dmg is needed
which is probably not normal raid
also, using your sparks to craft a staff early doesnt really matter cause you won't be spending crests on it
jaunty blaze
if you absolutely cant surpress the urge craft a 2hand at least
lucid olive
it's just a gamble cause if you spend 4 sparks on a staff and then get a weapon in an early vault you'll feel bad
but its the same gamble with one hand and off-hand
sturdy pumice
Rattle the Stars with Elune's Guidance on Incarn is like a machine gun of starsurges
lofty depot
Bis doesn't mean u craft it early
jaunty blaze
lets say you do craft both main and off hand
lofty depot
Click the early crafts tab innit
jaunty blaze
you now need 80 crests for both to upgrade
which equals 160 crests
whereas a 2hand only needs 80
for about the same power
jaunty blaze
somewhere far down the line of the season a mainhand offhand combo will maybe become better
but it also depends on whether you really need the early power of the craft
you can also be patient and wait for your first mythic vault
civic junco
Erm, awkward, but I am breaking my solemn vow. Below is the copy paste of what I threw in the RLE discord.
@WhomstEverCares - The last few tiers I released a spreadsheet before the start of a new tier that ranks and compares guilds based on region and number of days raided.
I'm not releasing one this tier.
I gave myself a deadline of March 17 to see if I can wrangle the data appropriately, and I do not have a product that I think is high enough quality to put out for the community. I have the Hall of Fame data and a great interview with one of the most-improved guilds from LoU to MF:O, but I think that releasing partial data would be an outrageously bone-headed move.
Additionally, my partner-in-crime who runs guildranks.com is taking a hiatus and has discontinued the website. I am also, possibly, taking a season or two off from the game I have a lot (of good stuff!) going on in my personal life and I cannot give the project the time and attention that it requires.
I know, it sucks. I feel quite guilty about it. I would like to come back to the project in 2027, but I do not want to make a promise I cannot keep. Thank you all for your encouragement and enthusiasm along the way. I hope to call on you once more for your understanding. Best of luck this tier ❤️
jaunty blaze
sudden pawn
wise loom
I was shooting wraths
and everytime the wrath hit the enemy it also casted a starsurge on it
but idk how it happened
oh star cascade talent
quartz void
Do we have a reccomended craft we should be doing?
lapis quarry
Hello everyone quick question do we have any idea what embellishment sims better for myth/raids for next weeks staff craft?
lofty depot
Do we have a reccomended craft we should be doing?
Likely 2h
lofty depot
Hello everyone quick question do we have any idea what embellishment sims better...
Hunt is simming good, u can also do that sim yourself with top gear
teal solar
how can I become good at moonkin? i don't do good dps unless I dot then celestial alignment+convoke
drifting nova
wait til reset
teal solar
well i'm not real clear on the rotation...marrying what the single rotation button has to do with the guides on wowhead / IV
i guess its consuming procs that i'm missing...will have to reread the talents
zealous loom
Hello everyone!
Is there any tips and tricks to the talent tree for the raid? Like an specific talent to make everything easier 🙂
lofty depot
Well the good damage part, those will do the most damage in the least amount of time, but that's not to say u couldn't do good damage not using those talnets
lucid olive
Hello everyone!
Is there any tips and tricks to the talent tree for the raid? L...
the talents that do damage
zealous loom
lmaoo
lofty depot
Then bracer/belt I suppose for the "buff" embelishment
U craft vet items or pvp item for one ye
sturdy pumice
is the 3 paladin raid fight the only one we might be in EC ?
lofty depot
Well the good damage part, those will do the most damage in the least amount of ...
But the, outside of slamming CDs, doing the rotation isnt complex, it's just knowing what to do next. Best bet is to read the guide and
Practice. If ur damage isn't improving after practicing and rereading the guide a few times. Make a log and we can review
lofty depot
is the 3 paladin raid fight the only one we might be in EC ?
Unless something changes with some of the bosses, prob
teal solar
i'm reading the dreamgrove.gg guide now...its making a lot more sense then the others i've read 🙂
lofty depot
Read the wowhead one
teal solar
ok
jolly delta
i'm reading the dreamgrove.gg guide now...its making a lot more sense then the o...
Its also outdated
As stated
In multiple points
Of the website
lofty depot
Maybe u should make a pop-up window instead
jolly delta
Maybe u should make a pop-up window instead
had that for the planner and shit
no one was reading that either
lofty depot
Or maybe add a sound bite of u singing "we're not updated"
jolly delta
i swear to god the ability of some people to ignore important information is unmatched
lofty depot
People started reading the raidbots big red warning
Before they never read the dslice warning
teal solar
well take it easy now...it says it'll be updated before season 1 🙂 which is ... soon™
jolly delta
well take it easy now...it says it'll be updated before season 1 🙂 which is .....
Last line wasn't specifically meant for you
Was not trying to be rude
Just a comment in general
pseudo merlin
<@119078380866895872> you play easy specs, is hammer of wrath gone for ret
i dont play ret
midnight killed it
teal solar
all good! no offense taken 😄
jolly delta
well take it easy now...it says it'll be updated before season 1 🙂 which is .....
Also yes, that is still true
pseudo merlin
it shouldnt be
lofty depot
Will be updated =/= currently updated
pseudo merlin
check your talents
lofty depot
In 24 hours or less tho
drifting nova
yeah few that buff it, but the actual button is gone
lost violet
the raidsim warning just made me unsure if i would risk send optimized sim with gems enchant, that would be around 200k gold wasted if the sim was broken 😛 so I cheaped out on bad ones and waiting to be sure
wide comet
is there a specific item to craft ?
cedar forge
ok but is hammer of wrath gone I cant find it
as an extra key it is. wings turns judgement into hammer
cedar forge
sure
drifting nova
no wonder they shut down the discord
cedar forge
ret too complex after all
jolly delta
In 24 hours or less tho
Me and Gamz are EU
drifting nova
cant even have the namesake
lofty depot
U would likely craft a 2h (without crests)
jolly delta
lofty depot
What that mean
jolly delta
That means for us s1 is wed
lofty depot
Headstart what that mean
lucid olive
i swear to god the ability of some people to ignore important information is unm...
are you getting 2 DMs an hour as well
lofty depot
are you getting 2 DMs an hour as well
(yes)
lucid olive
can confirm red banner works
cap
normal pilot
you just need to change this to a red banner
lofty depot
Pretty sure I said red would work, locken
normal pilot
yes cuz dslice was yellow banner
jaunty blaze
no warning will ever work
lucid olive
ah yes true
lofty depot
Wait, has that number gone down yet or no?
lucid olive
and now everyone asks about "when are druid sims available???" when they see the red banner
normal pilot
er idk lessee
lucid olive
Wait, has that number gone down yet or no?
wasnt dslice disabled
lofty depot
and now everyone asks about "when are druid sims available???" when they see the...
But at least they see it
normal pilot
oh right ya
lofty depot
wasnt dslice disabled
Ah shit true
normal pilot
i wonder how many ppl use the bypass
jolly delta
just nuke compendium
lofty depot
Freedom is a crutch
normal pilot
mabye dslice will work with midnight apl
jolly delta
we replace compendium with a link to simc and to druid's spell list
normal pilot
hm unlucky hac
normal pilot
% of sims for past 3 months
lofty depot
Oh
normal pilot
can prolly take a look at dslice once apl is stable and see what it looks like
south egret
How happy are we about the tuning? 🙂
lofty depot
How big of a st drop is it to take elunes guidance instead of convince
Those aren't on the same node
snow elm
Ok maybe it’s not called guidance
grim mirage
incarn prob
snow elm
The one on the same node as convoke
lofty depot
But none the less incarn vs convoke could something. It all depends on what the adds look like in fights
lofty depot
U have assumptions on sims what talents work well with another and then raid comes out and u test what builds garner the most damage
But we don't know until raid is actually out
lofty depot
How happy are we about the tuning? 🙂
Usually we have to wait 4 weeks for a buff to be competitive
So uhhhh poggers
nova ocean
Pray that everyone above us gets a aura nerf and we stay the same
lofty depot
Nah, just play better than them
lost violet
you will only be as good as your team, dont nerf your pals 🙁
lofty depot
DK is op, they do no mechanics
nova ocean
I wonder how we will do on the council fight this tier
lofty depot
Mmhm mmhm
lofty depot
I wonder how we will do on the council fight this tier
Probably pits like the last few kek
grim mirage
i just wonder if there would be any boomie in big RWF team ^^
nova ocean
Probably pits like the last few kek
Sad demon hunters felt so bad to play on
jolly delta
i just wonder if there would be any boomie in big RWF team ^^
Yes, canexx
nova ocean
i just wonder if there would be any boomie in big RWF team ^^
It's possible no one knows yet outside of those guilds
royal zenith
krona
nova ocean
Plus more tuning coming
jolly delta
Tarisant?
jolly delta
Ah sorry missed the rwf
maiden pasture
Krona and Cannexx are your best shots yeah
grim mirage
Yeah was thinking of big 3 but sure there would be some awesome boomies playing
maiden pasture
Then goop and sang if they arent on evoker duty
Maybe tobo idk if he's healer prison tho
lofty depot
Then goop and sang if they arent on evoker duty
I don't think sang has a druid leveled lol
Goop or tobo
maiden pasture
I don't think sang has a druid leveled lol
He does
lofty depot
Lol or add Nick to the list randomly
Peak time him asking about eclipse during rwf stix
royal zenith
they are dragons
grim mirage
But woudn't they be resto ?
lofty depot
Good pun, but liquid is very fluid with the druid role. They have all 4 specs covered if and when they need it
lofty depot
Sick
maiden pasture
Yeah Shay might be astro shagging on feral this tier
maiden pasture
astro shagging
Ye mate, astro shagging
royal zenith
mate
maiden pasture
O maybe not soul hunters
Would be surprised if they played it on araz too
lofty depot
Prob
grim mirage
Ok so boomie would be like 3% chance to be seen xD
unless maybe some other class changes
royal zenith
of course he is
grim mirage
Yeah but Maystine leveled mostly evok ^^
lofty depot
Would be curious
lofty depot
Yeah but Maystine leveled mostly evok ^^
Looks like 10/10
whole warren
is there already a guide out what to craft this week sailing into next one?
true viper
Im crafting 2h int weapon incase anyone was wondering
lofty depot
Im crafting 2h int weapon incase anyone was wondering
Not a feral player, wow
First time
Tarisant forced to play what's good
royal zenith
feral players are bigger betrayers
lofty depot
Then the tier bamkin maybe good, he's forced to play lock
proven rampart
i'm tightening up my ST prio list. is it ever worth using an ascendant eclipse stack on starfall if i have a starweaver proc and not enough AP for SS, or should i always be going into eclipse with enough AP to SS 3x to use all stacks?
lofty depot
U use the weaver proc yes
lucid olive
technically yes to both
you want to enter eclipse with enough resources to use 3 Starsurge, but if one of them procs a free Starfall its probably better to use it
lofty depot
If u had all 3 procs, both weavers and cosmos. U would press surge > surge > starfall
Should maybe test the chance and see if munching that Starfall is ok
lofty depot
you want to enter eclipse with enough resources to use 3 Starsurge, but if one o...
Did the "surge more" line do that
Or did it use Starfall weaver proc always
lucid olive
used weaver yeah
proven rampart
got it, thanks all. so it's not really the end of the world to use a stack on a free starfall if it comes up
proven rampart
ah okay, didn't know it was that close of a margin, good to know
lofty depot
Think the sim from base with that added line was only 0.1% to begin with or
nimble tangle
oh so misclicked on starfall is fine? Even EC build
I mean first 3 ascendant eclipse stacks
lofty depot
Just because ur playing EC, doesn't mean u pressing starfall in st without a proc
nimble tangle
Only when touch the cosmos proc
drifting nova
well whens that
lofty depot
Only when touch the cosmos proc
Weaver proc
nimble tangle
First 3 ascendant stacks
drifting nova
it's incredibly dumb this is even a scenario where starfall is better than starsurge on st
lofty depot
U surge the cosmos proc when u have those 3 stacks
drifting nova
blizz fix yo shit
nimble tangle
U surge the cosmos proc when u have those 3 stacks
First 3 stacks no matter what
Surge
drifting nova
wait
lofty depot
U press starfall weaver proc if u get one
lofty depot
it's incredibly dumb this is even a scenario where starfall is better than stars...
It's fun and interactive
jaunty blaze
we dont claim him
drifting nova
It's fun and interactive
it's unintended happenstance
river galleon
Damn Mushrooms and meteorites are really that bad we are not gonna play with atleast one of them?
lofty depot
Maybe gamz test the proc. But yes
drifting nova
I play with shrooms 🙂
lofty depot
Damn Mushrooms and meteorites are really that bad we are not gonna play with atl...
Meteorites is a ST talent, but there are better....
And EC is often talent locked within 1 or 2 talents so
nimble tangle
Yeah very slow EC
cosmic elbow
silly question here, but is lunar eclipsed bugged?
when i use st spells its not switching over to solar
lofty depot
Wrath isn't just a st spell
timber plaza
are you EC?
cosmic elbow
ya swapped to ec
cosmic elbow
ya im newer to boomie, which talent changes this so i can find it
lofty depot
But ur likely EC playing lunar calling
cosmic elbow
ahh ok so many talents tyvm
jagged stirrup
hi guys do you have a talent 'website' to reference or something else ?
lofty depot
Wowhead has some builds
primal forum
Which Embellishment are you guys going for 2h
stone ledge
Hunt
lofty depot
Hunt and arcanoweave ye
lofty depot
They did both kek
stone ledge
Do we get 3 embellishments now or nah
dense steeple
no?
stone ledge
Just saw 2x arcanoweave and hunt on the guide so didn’t know if it changed or nah
lofty depot
It's 2 arcano if u take a mythic weapon presumably
stone ledge
