balance

[lofty depot]

so now im gonna tell people to wait

[potent cargo]

could maybe change growth direction and see if it fixes/reload, seems weird since your settings look correct just logically

[sour rampart]

lmao

[lofty depot]

is correct ye

but u have enough time in incarn to get it done

just not in trees window, but surge better i think

[eager raft]

gonna take a bit to rewire brain

to understand that spender spam is good now

[lofty depot]

machine gun

gogogogog

[potent cargo]

easiest rewire

surge/starfall are dopamine

play the slot machine

[lofty depot]

rewire to spend cosmos on starfall

[dreamy cove]

rip, left or right, or down/up still mseed up

[sly wadi]

hitting the lotto is pure dopamine

[eager raft]

always?

[lofty depot]

unless its the first 3 spenders in eclipse

[eager raft]

o cuz apex buffs those ya?

[lofty depot]

ye

[potent cargo]

do we have a sim check for dps loss if you just ignore it completely

just out of interest

[lofty depot]

ignore what

[potent cargo]

like just press starfall instead of surge

[lofty depot]

uhh gamz did

think it was like 0.2

[potent cargo]

in that window specifically

[lofty depot]

YE

[delicate perch]

shiny button

[lofty depot]

is old number but prob same

[potent cargo]

was never gonna be end of the world but i take solace in the idea that it's "minimal"

[lofty depot]

might be 0.3 if i think about it

[eager raft]

did kotg lose the talent that reduces CA cd

[lofty depot]

just like using starfire in incarn for the insta proc vs wrath

[eager raft]

not control*

the other one

[lofty depot]

ye

[potent cargo]

that one i feel like is easier for me to remember to do haha

[lofty depot]

they made it haste

[eager raft]

so its just flat 1 min recharge

[potent cargo]

compared to my buttons lighting up and remembering to press surge instead of fall for the 3 globals per fight its relevant kinda thing

[lofty depot]

2m recharge

but it got reduced by 1m from whirling

[eager raft]

oh ya sry thats what i meant

[lofty depot]

whirling reduced it by 100 before

[eager raft]

gotcha

[lofty depot]

and then potent by another 10

[lofty depot]

would also just be a ST thing

[granite heath]

oh boy,

[lofty depot]

in aoe u would slam starfall regardless

[eager raft]

maybe one day we play 1m convoke

[lofty depot]

so is tuff

[granite heath]

i thought i would maybe try balance

[eager raft]

thats my spec on top baby

[potent cargo]

are you doing high keys with top world players like tettles?

[lofty depot]

we got buffed dog

[potent cargo]

bc if you arent i think you have lots of potentiality for topping dps in your m+s

[flat pewter]

tettles isnt catweaving to minmax

[granite heath]

if its not high keys wont my dmg be even lower

[lofty depot]

do u think the buffs are already in or

[delicate perch]

what is this even from

[eager raft]

gotta be beta

cmon guys use ur heads

[delicate perch]

I doubt he's on ptr doing keys

[lofty depot]

beta doesnt have the buffs either

[potent cargo]

brain no work

[eager raft]

lmfao

[granite heath]

oh

[delicate perch]

[granite heath]

when are buff btw, tuesday?

[potent cargo]

sorch just play what u want

bc lets be real

[lofty depot]

tuesday

[potent cargo]

u play something op now

it will be bricked by mid season when they do turbo/big change mid season

[granite heath]

i wanna play evoker but that fuckin range

[potent cargo]

like they do every season

[eager raft]

u get used to evoker range fast

[potent cargo]

so ur decisions now will be irrelevant in 3 month or w/

[eager raft]

ifu wanna play evoker play it and push thru the learning curve of less range

doesnt take long

[dreamy cove]

after reloading, dragging the icons worked
magic...

[eager raft]

ranged classes play in melee in m+ either way

[loud kettle]

do not tell the resto druids who refuse to catweave that

[eager raft]

@lofty depot does apex include convoke surgees

i assume yes

[lofty depot]

iirc yes

[eager raft]

ty

[sour rampart]

@lofty depot who is a feral and bear person I can ping without getting murdered

[eager raft]

@loud kettle

idk bears

[stable basin]

How does boomy vs feral look in keys now with the buffs?

[normal pilot]

feral might do more but it's feral so maybe they can't overcome the stigma

keys are just a random ass guess you're not really gonna find a good answer until a month into the season

[stable basin]

True

[lament vine]

Is there anywhere to practice ST on a dummy that doesn't have a billion other dummies nearby?

[normal pilot]

you'd just swap to whatever is better after the post-raid tuning if you're serious about keys but want to play your druid

[stable basin]

Theres another pvp dummy near the useless ring of dummies in town

[loud kettle]

dreamwalk and go to amirdrassil, there's one in belameth

[lament vine]

Thanks to you both.

[lofty depot]

belameth

[dull dust]

meth

[upper anvil]

Whoever decided and came up with this cities dummy layout needs warm pillows on both sides forever

[lucid olive]

Smh just leaking it to everyone

[acoustic star]

Any recommended dummies guide to boomkin videos?

[lofty depot]

can watch tettles guide

[acoustic star]

im 1 minute in and can already tell this isnt a boomkin for dummies guide XD

[lofty depot]

time to stop being a dummy ig

[deep hearth]

Do we have an estimate how the buffs will affect our performance in m+?

[lofty depot]

not fully cuz of how simming m+ is just shit

did some funny 3t and 5t sims at 5m but it was like 12%... will just have to see in a few weeks how it looks

[deep hearth]

Okay thanks for the reply anyways

[potent cargo]

the short and lazy answer is we are fine for any m+ you want to do whether that's low keys or title keys

the biggest obstacle you will have is your own skill at the game and finding other ppl to tolerate you in the group

[merry ibex]

is elune playable in keys or is it all trees?

[potent cargo]

elune

good in keys

[merry ibex]

kina miss warrior of elune though I tell you what

[lofty depot]

would be funny to see keeper get some play for a bit

but should be ec

[potent cargo]

we kinda get a little bit of that with eclipse giving us an instant cast starfire

sorta homage

[dark flame]

Goodmorning, how much do we sim more with recent buffs?

where can i find that info

[jaunty blaze]

pins

[dark flame]

ty

Its just for ST, any news on AOE? since the starfall nerf

[jaunty blaze]

its still an aoe dmg increase

something like 8-9%

[thorn dove]

Starfall was buffed ~6%

[jaunty blaze]

thats not how it works

its less than 6% but i cant say how much

[thorn dove]

Which is why I said approximately 6%

[edgy quarry]

I was wondering, maybe on the boss lightblinded vanguard we could switch to Elune Chosen as we did with hunters in Manaforge ? What do u think about it

[jaunty blaze]

possible

[royal zenith]

Wrong, I only ever cast starfall on aoe

Until asp runs out..

[jaunty blaze]

starfall is expensive these days...

[kindred token]

Sorry for the spam 😂

[acoustic star]

How do dots work in modern WoW? do you need to snapshot moonfire/sunfire during eclipse to get the damage amp or does it just amp when eclipse is up. (and I guess the same question for haste from starlord...)

[royal zenith]

afaik all of balance druid is dynamic

only feral really has snapshotting

what does starlord have to do with snapshotting?

it's a buff that is up or not that's all

[acoustic star]

oh.. haste doesn't increase dot tick speed anymore?

[royal zenith]

not a lot is hasted

just specific ticks per x or y

@lucid olive might be able to tell you what the actual mechanic is rn

it's also the reason why we always want a lot of mastery

(even though a shitton of people 'stack' haste cause they think it feels better)

[potent cargo]

it doesn't snapshot

[jaunty blaze]

doesnt only feral still has that

everything about boomie is dynamic

[potent cargo]

ya off the top of my head feral is the only one

which is TF snapshotting

[royal zenith]

[potent cargo]

hots/dots are effected by haste

idk the full mechanic math or w/e but they just do a partial tick

[jaunty blaze]

its nothing to worry about just let the clanker do the thinking

[royal zenith]

honestly

I get that we say it a lot cause it's easier

but it's kinda useful to know how shit works

smile

[potent cargo]

mmmmmm

[jaunty blaze]

sure it is

[potent cargo]

agree to disagree

LOL

[jaunty blaze]

but i think most ppl wont benefit from that

[delicate perch]

can't believe inflation hit elune

[potent cargo]

well, surface level yes

[royal zenith]

hence the "cause it's easier"

[potent cargo]

maybe not the backend uh numeros of it all

[royal zenith]

Im talking pure surface level

[cedar pumice]

is it possible to set-up different colors of nameplates depending of which debuff is missing moonfire/sunfire ? or this option is off now in Midnight?

[potent cargo]

i aint pullin out the spell power int calc formula

yeh, that part good

[royal zenith]

fuck how it works on the back-end

[jaunty blaze]

cant have shit in silvermoon...

[royal zenith]

that's for nerds..

[potent cargo]

[jaunty blaze]

not anymore

gotta learn to track the icons instead

[royal zenith]

good thing we will only be pulling 5 mobs at a time for a while

[still iris]

does that seem reasonable? just by reading the trinkets, it feels like they would be the worst combination...

[potent cargo]

idk bro what are u simming

[jaunty blaze]

dont trust big sim

(trust the sim)

[royal zenith]

I haven't touched any sim so far

just get ilvl man

[jaunty blaze]

its really whatever fr at this point

most things are like minor increases

of 100 dps or so

[still iris]

they are all the same ilvl, tried patchwerk and hectic cleave and both results look ass 😄

[potent cargo]

yeah.. but what fight time

[jaunty blaze]

hectic cleave is not supported

[potent cargo]

is the passive trinkets getting more benefit since ur not getting that extra use of the on use?

[jaunty blaze]

so you wont get anything useful out of that

[potent cargo]

change the fight time to 3 mins if ur doing 5 mins and see what happens, or 2 mins etc

[still iris]

thanks, will try that

[potent cargo]

regardless

you will be replacing them both in what 4 days

[delicate perch]

heckin love me some hectic addcleave unsupported sims

[potent cargo]

I just go on use trinket because it'll let you crank those short pulls where you go big

[jaunty blaze]

convoke go brr

[cedar pumice]

been spending some time on ST dummy and with many different talent builds KOTG (ST/AOE), but dps on single target dummy is very similar. anyone else the same?

[jaunty blaze]

thats because they all sim about the same too

lots of talents are very close to each other in terms of output

convoke build is only very slightly ahead in numbers

[edgy quarry]

u were right ^^'

Fortunately u told me before I did the craft, thanks

[bright yarrow]

.

[gilded rampart]

hey guys after buffs which will be the best for raid and m+? Elunes chosen or Keeper of the Grove?

[cedar pumice]

ok, so at the moment wins builds which have aoe aspect in it + grants most mobility

[jaunty blaze]

it will probably depend which profile lines up better with the bosses

[jaunty blaze]

you will still play keeper in raid. m+ remains to be seen

[gilded rampart]

i see, thank you

[grizzled walrus]

hello. I am really confused with balance druid. all the videos on yt that I've found sais that before you enter eclipse, if you press W, you go into solar, if you press SF, you go intro lunar...but whatever I press, I have only lunar eclipse. why?

i haven't played druid since df s3

[jaunty blaze]

thats because you play elunes chosen hero talent and have lunar calling talented

read it and it will become clear why that is

[grizzled walrus]

ok thx

[olive shard]

s1 use elvui ? i have errors all time

[ionic gate]

its no longer possible to change colors on the plater according to our dots right?

[jaunty blaze]

no

[grizzled walrus]

because of the lunar calling talent, we use starfire in single target also?

[jaunty blaze]

yes

[grizzled walrus]

can I unbind wrath then? KEKW

[jaunty blaze]

your starfire dmg is increased by 120% (after the patch) on your maintarget

wrath might be a slight gain in st when you are out of eclipse

but its largely not needed

[grizzled walrus]

that sounds about right

[dark cipher]

Anyone have a feel yet for where the breakpoint is for "that's too many enemies to put moonfire on everyone"? The wowhead guide says "we don't know yet."

[royal zenith]

just use old rules/prio till we know more

aka if target lives longer than 6 seconds, moonfire it

[dark cipher]

Even if there's so many adds that by the time you get go through moonfiring them all, the first ones are in pandemic?

[royal zenith]

There can't be any pull right now, in m0, where you end up in that situation

unless your co-players really have no hands

just moonfire prio targets, not smallies etc.

use logic

[dark cipher]

Lol fair enough

[royal zenith]

I get the need for having specifics though, but kinda a lot is still changing atm

[plucky valley]

Use logic? Yeah no thanks I’ll remain irrational

[dark cipher]

I've definitely been under-dotting. Usually around 8ish I just shrug, use a couple GCDs in moonfire, then drop sunfire and start my eclipse rotation. Then I wonder why I feel like I'm underperforming.

I'm a bear main, though, so I'm too used to moonfire spreading automatically.

[jaunty blaze]

should have done m0s in bear for preseason ngl

[radiant plaza]

this change from yesterday give ST buff and AOE nerv right?

[jaunty blaze]

no

[radiant plaza]

both buff?

[jaunty blaze]

yes

[radiant plaza]

[acoustic star]

should I be aiming to weave an instacast between each starfire to ensure I'm not wasting any starweaver procs for EC? Without gimping my Astral Energy for Eclipse windows ofc...

[frosty slate]

if i can sneak a PI isnt eluna kinda close even on st?

elune

[jaunty blaze]

the sim number isnt the only thing thats important in this line of thought

and even if you just go by that then there are specs where pi is a lot better on

the main problem is having to cast starfires for 2 seconds all the time

good luck when you need to move a lot

[sharp copper]

Decided to level a druid as an alt to my mage.

How's this spec holding up on m0 atm ?

[jaunty blaze]

boomie is never good in content like m0

things usually dont live long enough

[fossil hemlock]

And if they do you have bigger problems

[sharp copper]

How so?

[jaunty blaze]

because they die too fast?

thats about it

boomie needs a bit of ramp up time and lacks burst

[sharp copper]

I get you, fair enough. Thanks

[old ridge]

Tbh would be so sick if boomy got the same GG talent… or a mass AOE applicator like SPriest

[woven pike]

what embelish should we put on the blue crafts? arcanoweave?

[sour rampart]

Ye

[lucid olive]

Our initial override to sim for the March 17th tuning was off, the upcoming tuning is approximately a 19% buff instead of the 17% reported earlier.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gaom9tdzhb2sqrizYtiXvG

Keep in mind there is no 100% guarantee that Blizzard ends up pushing the exact number they say

[wild dune]

holy

we take those

[edgy quarry]

you are the best thank you !

[trail heath]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[shy bay]

At this point im 100% convinced, Blizzard no longer has a tuning Departement. They just have a AI "Vibe-Tuning" all speccs.

How bad of a Job are you doing, that basically have to +20% and -30% some speccs? That is freaking wild...

That being said, i stay with my reroll to devour, as i trust the "New specc hype" over Blizzard finaly managing to get balance druid to be a fun specc to play again. (Ignoring tuning, because the playstyle BS is a bigger issue then the number tuning currently is)

[lofty depot]

It's been a fun spec to play all beta cycle

[normal pilot]

this isn't that wild

[lofty depot]

It was just tuned bad, so your "ignoring tuning playstyle BS" is funny

[normal pilot]

it's been like this for decades every xpac ppl conveniently forget cuz they want to stay addicted

[shy bay]

Sorry, not feeling it... 🫤

[lofty depot]

That's fine, u just have the wrong opinion

It's probably the most fun since DF S1

[normal pilot]

nah he's got the right attitude

if you don't find a spec fun play something else

[lofty depot]

Attitude sure, opinion about the spec, no

[normal pilot]

you don't need to justify why you like or don't liek a spec

[shy bay]

Honestly, i rather play midfield tww playstyle, then top of the table midnight style.

[lucid olive]

yeah its just a video game

[lofty depot]

What is midfield tww

[lucid olive]

american didn't get the reference smh

[normal pilot]

making choices off his own opinion is exactly how blizz wants you to play the game

if anything he's palying it right

[shy bay]

Mid field in terms of dps rankings

[fervent harbor]

Hello, What is currently the easier pathways of the 2 Keeper of the grove or elunes chosen I am newer to balance so I am trying to go for something that has a lower APM and overall easier to play

[lucid olive]

elune's chosen has easier skill floor but potentially harder skill ceiling

[lofty depot]

We werent midfield in tww until 0.5

And sim numbers don't matter

Ur whole complaint was playstyle and ur only mentioning tuning

[shut cliff]

Idk space chicken is cool

[lofty depot]

What's wrong with the playstyle

[lucid olive]

ThE GcD

[shy bay]

Im comparing playstyles tww vs midnight. To make my point, i explained i would be willing to do a little less dps, but having the tww style back

[jade grotto]

anyone else going ec convoke in to raid? cant wait to top the meters

[waxen cosmos]

idk cosplaying as aurelion sol is pretty fun the buff is just icing :/

[lofty depot]

U can play the same playstyle from tww

[shut cliff]

Bring back vanilla wow balance druid

[frosty garden]

Can anyone help me with a macro? Trying to make an Innervate Focus Target, but it's not working for some reason. This is what I have in the string:

#showtooltip Innervate
/cast [@focus,help,nodead] [] Innervate

[lofty depot]

Ur not gonna want to do that 🙂

[drifting nova]

focus macros? what year is it?

[lofty depot]

Focus macros for surge >

[drifting nova]

We are not mages

[cedar forge]

thank god for that

[shy bay]

Since the they changed how we get into eclipse and us losing the fun interaction with our t-set, i cannot

[lofty depot]

Ok so it was the eclipse difference lol

[shut cliff]

Laughing nervously as i main mage but dabble in space chickens

[lofty depot]

And not the playstyle

[drifting nova]

think of it as beta tww

[normal pilot]

you like having to spend 2 casts for eclipse instead of having an instant cast?

[drifting nova]

yes

[lofty depot]

How is casting 2 starfires better than an instant cast

[drifting nova]

I'd rather pick 2 apples than one carrot

[lofty depot]

I love the "it's a gcd" talk

[lucid olive]

crazy opinions in dreamgrove today

[lofty depot]

It's remarkable

[drifting nova]

it's worse than that

it's a half gcd

it exists for no reason

[shut cliff]

The emerald nightmare is seeping through

[hybrid elbow]

Eclipse Change is definitely a playstyle change and contained some skill expression which is gone now

[jolly delta]

I swear to god this is on the same level of people saying that they don't want to do cat dps on resto because it's more difficult

brother it's the same number of spells

[drifting nova]

the post eclipse haste buff massively helped (and you mean wrath not starfire)

[lucid olive]

some people spent too much time in rift of aln lately..

[drifting nova]

hi, that's me

[fervent harbor]

Hmm I mean ultimatley I am looking for something that is like a 4 button rotation with a 5th like every 30 seconds or so. not sure if any build meet that

[shy bay]

Love how you keep fcking discussing about someones personal opinions. Whats next? Wanna argue about whats better? Chicken or Pork?

[jolly delta]

What skill expression wtf

[fervent harbor]

I just have a hard time managing a ton of stuff. even more so now that WA's is gone

[lofty depot]

Send logs I need to see

[normal pilot]

it's a weird opinion is all. most ppl prefer instant casts over 2 long cast times

[hybrid elbow]

archieving next eclipse asap was clearly a skill experession which separted good from bad players

[drifting nova]

are there even more half gcds

for like mages and locks

[normal pilot]

you're gonna get questions if you enter a public forum with a weird opinion

[jolly delta]

Maybe because if something is not on opinion then there's nothing to argue about

[lofty depot]

How fun was it trying to enter eclipse while doing excess mass

[celest narwhal]

i haven’t mess around with the eclipse and actually playing right now, but do you get a lot of down time outside of eclipse

[lofty depot]

Please explain

[drifting nova]

democracy logic

[hybrid elbow]

no reason to argue about fun if it is subjective

[lucid olive]

Yeah, the skill expression where I can't enter Eclipse because my Eclipse cycle happens to land on moments where I have to move

Fun is subjective

but calling it skill expression is not an opinion

[lofty depot]

@hybrid elbow please explain

[cedar forge]

luckily i have ice cream at hand

[drifting nova]

plan your rotation better dumbo

if you got caught rotating eclipses skill issue

[hybrid elbow]

that

[jolly delta]

[lofty depot]

Objectively wronf

[hybrid elbow]

xd

[lucid olive]

Agreeing with Kekkers actually proves you wrong automatically

[vivid quiver]

is someone actually telling gamz to play his rotation better xddd

[jolly delta]

you didn't just say "that" to kekkers did you

[lofty depot]

Post ur logs

[jolly delta]

I mean that's clearly something you can say

But

[lucid olive]

There is 0 skill expression involved in being locked out of Eclipse on mechanics like Dimensius gravities, Ansurek p1 toxin pops or Sprocketmonger movement

[drifting nova]

I saw both vinter and gamz get caught out of rotation on fights, clear skill issue

[jolly delta]

Not on that

[drifting nova]

[exotic perch]

Kekkers is just a god tier gamer what do you guys expect

[lucid olive]

The "skill expression" for an uptime spec like Moonkin comes in handling movement correctly and planning well, but there is no planning to be possibly done around hard mythic mechanics like that

[lofty depot]

The people complaining about "playstyle" can't get over a gcd on an instant cast ability. That used to be 2 casts and objectively worse

[jolly delta]

Like there's literally nothing you could do if you get a mechanic the exact same moment you're leaving eclipse

How is that "skill issue"

Lmao

[lucid olive]

And if anything, it creates a much larger gap between good and average players

[jolly delta]

Idk if you're doing normal raids sure just ignore the mechanic

[exotic perch]

Well you could stand there and get your 2 starfire casts off

[lucid olive]

But also I assume that having the opinion that making Eclipse into a button "loses skill expression", you probably peak at AOTC

[exotic perch]

But then you might wipe the raid

[drifting nova]

a full gcd would be better than it is now

[exotic perch]

Or die

[jolly delta]

I guess we're talking about LFR

[lofty depot]

Why do u think that

[jade grotto]

xd?

[cedar forge]

Death over loosing my maintenance buff. sounds legit

[hybrid elbow]

I wasn't complaining btw, I just tried to point out that there is difference wrt to TWW which some people prefer. I dont really mind tbh. But arguing the playstyle didnt change is simply wrong.

[lucid olive]

lets them tune higher and also gives more movement

[jolly delta]

Am I having a dejavu

[hybrid elbow]

obviously ita a very small change wrt to normal changes with a new expension

[jolly delta]

I swear to god we got this exact same comment 3 days ago or something

[drifting nova]

as said like a month ago, either it's important enough to be a gcd or of no consequence to be ogcd, half gcds are just bad, across the board

[lucid olive]

the playstyle for sure changes

[drifting nova]

it's where the clunk stems from

[lucid olive]

I guess it's one of those things where the playstyle changed a lot more noticeably for average players than for better players

[exotic perch]

If they made the bolts apex talent stronger and a full gcd id be down

[drifting nova]

for the worse, yes

[lofty depot]

the problem with "playstyle change" is that it actually helps u if u open ur eyes

[exotic perch]

Feels like a good button press then

[drifting nova]

half gcds are objectively bad, I doubt theres more than like 5 in the game

I can only think of 1 but I dont play all classes

[lucid olive]

The playstyle change is more about Starweaver than Eclipse tbh

[lofty depot]

^^

[exotic perch]

Well starweaver is sick tho

[lucid olive]

yeah

but you know what isnt sick

[cedar forge]

yeah hope we get to keep it

[lucid olive]

Hail of Stars

[lofty depot]

interactions

those are sick

[lucid olive]

I love Starweaver playstyle but holy shit that talent is so bad

[lofty depot]

so are we gonna post logs so i can make sure ur doing the playstyle correctly or

[exotic perch]

Thats the 300% more shs right

For like 3 secs

[lucid olive]

yeah 3 seconds of Solstice when you use free spender

[exotic perch]

Yeah it just needs to add up

[lucid olive]

The idea is really cool providing a buff using free spender procs

but Solstice is not a tangible buff

[exotic perch]

So you can slam procs back to back

[jolly delta]

Anyways for once I kind of agree with Kekkers

Well not really

[drifting nova]

knew you'd come around

[lucid olive]

It does stack duration...

[jolly delta]

A shorter gcd is objectively better than a longer one

[lucid olive]

but gets hard reset to 6s when you enter Eclipse

so if you proc like 3 times outside of Eclipse you're just munching uptime when you have to press Eclipse

[drifting nova]

if eclipse was a full gcd before

[exotic perch]

Ah i knew it had some cutoff

[drifting nova]

itd be fine

[jolly delta]

But man it feels a bit weird

[drifting nova]

but it wasnt, it was a passive

it's gone backwards

[lucid olive]

idk, if it was something like "spending a free Starsurge makes your next Starfall do more damage" and vice versa or something

[drifting nova]

ocd is calling, it does fuck all damage anyhow

[lucid olive]

or like "spending a free Starsurge or Starfall proc increases the duration of your active Eclipse"

[round field]

Yea but that doesnt have synergy with the tier set soo

[exotic perch]

Yeah they could slightly rework it to be more useful always

[lucid olive]

the Shooting Stars playstyle now is just because they changed Sunfire/Moonfire from mastery and need to bake some more power into them

[exotic perch]

I even said way back in the day them tying so many things to eclipse was going to be bad

[lucid olive]

I think it's fine as long as interactions are consistent with what they benefit from

[lofty depot]

lol now theyre gonna find an interaction to give back to rattle

[lucid olive]

thats especially true for stuff like free Starsurge/Starfalls from other talents

[lofty depot]

surely its my maintenance buff

mmmhm mmhm

[lucid olive]

like Star Cascade talent for EC giving Harmony of the Heavens but nothing else

Either make all those talents interact with Starsurge/Starfall modifiers or make none of them do

[drifting nova]

whats the tier set called

[lucid olive]

sprouts of the luminous bloom

had to write that like 10 times for the wowhead guide so its imprinted in my head

[drifting nova]

whats even the % of star damage to buf fit

[lucid olive]

wdym

[drifting nova]

50% more

[lucid olive]

yeah crazy number

[drifting nova]

but is the total like 2%

or 10

[lucid olive]

shooting stars is your 2nd highest ability usually

[drifting nova]

I turned my tracker off

[lofty depot]

well without tier its like 13-15%

with tier its like 20-23

[proven rampart]

hey all, noticed the wowhead guide was updated today, is there a changelog anywhere? trying to see if i need to update my own reference notes

oh there is, found it

[lucid olive]

no

oh sick

also didn't really change anything noteworthy

the rotation and talent stuff got updates last couple days

[proven rampart]

oh, it just says when it was updated, but i think there's convoke stuff in the ST prio list i didn't see before

[lucid olive]

yeah i changed the rotation page to cover convoke/incarn builds with starweaver

[proven rampart]

ah cool, ty gamz

[lucid olive]

instead of incarn/convoke builds with weaver/rattle

also added fury of elune

[ripe slate]

new sims more dam

[wintry umbra]

me with loomithar webs every single time 😡

[lofty depot]

Moonkins bad at math

[ripe slate]

love being bad at math that just means we have more pleasant surprises

[normal pilot]

it can just as well go the other way

[lucid olive]

yeah never know what they end up doing

have a feeling starsurge and starfall numbers will prob be a little different one direction or the other

think they usually round up or down to the 3rd decimal

which rounds down from 3.44736 to 3.447 on Starsurge and up from 0.22192 to 0.222 on Starfall

[nimble tangle]

Bruh we need more

[quiet drift]

The type of greed they speak of in the bible

[unborn perch]

tune me harder

[copper gate]

Leave us where we’re at or else we’ll get buffed for a month and then nuked

And then someone can use the mage copy pasta here lol

[lucid olive]

we're gonna climb 2 spots

[ripe slate]

then surge is gonna round down and we go down 1 spot (maybe (speculative (do not check)))

[exotic perch]

its ok 4 of the specs above us are DH

[normal pilot]

oh unlucky they fixed aoe proccing OB

[lucid olive]

yeah that was in the blue post

i am more surprised they knew about it tbh

and also surprised that we didn't know about it sooner

[normal pilot]

i'm less surprsied about that

[lucid olive]

more on myself, how did i do algethar m+ on beta without thinking theres something weird with getting 8 full moons in a 20 second pull..

[normal pilot]

maybe they were hidden

[lucid olive]

full moon doing 11% overall in a key

[normal pilot]

hm what else needs fixing

[lucid olive]

can do my history assignment if you want

what year did ww2 start and explain your reasoning

[lofty depot]

"boomkins are never happy"

[kindred token]

Thank you for adding both! 💜

[vestal sail]

Are we sure asking your internet friends about WW2 will end well?

[lofty depot]

Blame tettles cuz he's been beta testing longer

[lofty depot]

Depends which friends ur asking

[worthy stone]

ok guys

what should i track be honest

[lucid olive]

not wrath and starfire

thats for sure

dont track starsurge and starfall if you alrdy have ticks in your AP bar

also @lyric stag help him out

[worthy stone]

\dont ping that DISGUSTING freak

i have to pick up the slack this tier and flex boomkin

cause hes old and washed

reality is im onyl ever playing elunes chosen for a cleave fight in raid right i dont have to worry about this other hero talent ever

[copper gate]

Damn that’s based

[tawny cloud]

What ap bar is this?

[worthy stone]

ummm its just twintop insanity bar

but he made it work for all resources

[pallid bay]

AP, FoE, incarn, dots, eclipse, touch of the cosmos, both starweavers

[worthy stone]

is cancelaura starlord still good

the last time i played boomkin we were afflicted ive got some unc viewpoints

[stone ledge]

I put my wrath and starfire on utility bars just to see the free proc glows but I also hide action bars

[worthy stone]

dude what is starweaver

i cant find it in cdm

[pallid bay]

it cant be cancelled anymore, cancels automatically when you enter eclipse

[worthy stone]

woke takes everything

chills

[pallid bay]

starweavers weft and waft

[worthy stone]

ok it looks like u dont play that in raid aoe talents

so we can ignore that for now

[pallid bay]

you'd play it on paladins prob

[worthy stone]

im only speccing this chicken spec when its like a 5t cleave fight they wontm let me be a cat on

fuckkk

[pallid bay]

and dragons

[lucid olive]

you play Starweaver on every raid fight pretty sure

the paladins aren't stacked 3t anyway, one of them just perma off on his horse

[worthy stone]

fuckkkk

[pallid bay]

you could prob argue for rattle on dragons

but it prob ends up worse

[lucid olive]

yeah maybe

rattle with EC on dragons

if they are stacked enough for starfire to hit

[worthy stone]

so youd be playing keeper even on the cleave fights ?

ec just key only or what

[lucid olive]

yeah

[worthy stone]

fuckkkkkkkkkkkk

[lucid olive]

your target breakpoints for Starfire/Wrath stuff is not just how many targets there are in total, but how many targets are hit by Starfire

also like, moonkin on 2 targets sims about the same as feral does on ST

think you'll be fine

[worthy stone]

tbh i dont think id realistically play it ever cause u can just pick up slack somewhere else

and im a paw buff

but dratnos threatened to take me to the vet and neuter me .

[lucid olive]

understandable

[wicked shuttle]

wtf are you logging on moonkin

would we ever play mushrooms on dragons

[worthy stone]

ummm im playing feral (copefully) and if theres a stix i have to play boomkin

that was the rule

[wicked shuttle]

need solar beam 🙂

[worthy stone]

im really good at pressing that one

i will win

[severe vapor]

question- is eclipse dynamic with the moon/sun fires? or do i gotta reapply as soon as i hit it?

[lucid olive]

all your periodic effects are dynamic

nothing really snapshots like that in modern WoW outside of Feral Druid bleeds

[lofty depot]

Does wild mushroom snap still 👀

[lucid olive]

no

that got changed when fungal growth was baked into the baseline talent

[normal pilot]

mushrooms are usually soft they don't snap but maybe you like dried shrooms

[shut trench]

is it too early to tell now or is mdt sim still the "go to" for dung simming

[craggy sonnet]

aoe sims are a bit wonky in general for now i would say

but yea, ultimately it would be mdt sims again

[shut trench]

never really knew what is the best sim for m+ some people say do the usual raid ST sim some say mdt some say Dungslice

[craggy sonnet]

not dslice at least

[shut trench]

if i do the mdt sim , what options to choose from regarding Fight Style , Number of Bosses and Fight Length

had some conflicting opinions on this one

[craggy sonnet]

these are all overwritten by the mdt sim input

[shut trench]

u mean the sim changes itself based on the whole route that you choose

[lofty depot]

we dont sim m+ here

we vibe

m+ sims are fake as fuck

send funny incarn at the end of a pack

[lucid olive]

just do 1 target 5 min sims

[lofty depot]

3t 5t sim make some judgement calls 😛

[craggy sonnet]

the route information that makes up the mdt sim overwrites whatever option you choose in the default sim options, yeah

[craggy sonnet]

well, not really. surely there are issues but it does catch some stuff like increased value of haste

[shut trench]

patchwerk?

[lucid olive]

yes

[wind ridge]

what is the addon that lets you go more in depth with blizz's cooldown manager

is it better cdm

?

[lofty depot]

theres a bunch

but that is one of them

[cedar pumice]

I am using TellMeWhen

[wind ridge]

what is the one that helps with gamz's WAs

or does it not matter

[round field]

this is not a sentence i thought i would hear in 2026

or well

ever

[cedar pumice]

oldschool but still does the job well or tell me what`s wrong with it ?

[round field]

this game is doomed

fire entire dev team methinks

[lofty depot]

bcdm yes

he uses ajiyes now

i think its on his wago

[wind ridge]

oki ty arctic

[forest spear]

so what is the best for crafting without spark, i miss legs & 1 ring 240. Do i just craft those or is it still better to go for cloak + something else?

[maiden pasture]

TellMeWhen, PowerAuras, Skada

[lofty depot]

i wouldnt craft anything on tier slots

[lyric stag]

I would like it better if we fired u out of a cannon

[lofty depot]

the likely crafts for those are wrist/cloak

[celest narwhal]

what is embelihsmnet we want to take

[lofty depot]

hunt and arcanoweave

[void jacinth]

ill slice your d if u keep it up

[craggy sonnet]

damn

[edgy quarry]

guys tell me no one is going to play feral ?! We are here for boomiieeeeeeeee

[glad helm]

I'm gonna try to craft 2h weapon next week for immediate power and later on get the offhand once I get a decent enough main hand

[lofty depot]

yeet

[glad helm]

Is there an order in which to craft the the following items like bracers?

[lofty depot]

sim question

[glad helm]

Fair enough

[hasty ermine]

quick question: do i start using Starfall on 2+ targets?

[lofty depot]

i was thinking maybe craft off tier piece but its kinda meh

cuz ur using mythic crests on not a good item (wrists being that bad item)

but shrug

[lofty depot]

we have changed it now to 3t

🙂

[hasty ermine]

thanks

[glad helm]

Well I'm kinda new to retail and the new professions, so are there any other good options? I don't think so

[lofty depot]

so some items give more stats than others

usually we used a different crest to craft wrists cuz it was effecient but i dont think that enhanced crest is a thing anymore...... so yea will have an answer later when i do some funny sims

[pale fable]

Is convoke better for m0s right now?

[lofty depot]

no

u can likely use it tho if ur bored

[pale fable]

Oh

[glad helm]

Does it matter what you play on m0? it's kinda free content

[lofty depot]

yea is w.e.

[glad helm]

just do damuje

[pale fable]

Will convoke not see play then? Post patch i mean

[lofty depot]

it could see play

depends on what is needed in raid

[pale fable]

I assumed convoke was better since mobs die too quick for incarn to be worth it

[lofty depot]

convoke doesnt scale well into aoe

[pale fable]

I see

[lofty depot]

and right now its close convoke vs incarn on st

so ur just outright losing damage in aoe

[pale fable]

Ah

[lofty depot]

but agian, its m0s

can do w.e.

[pale fable]

Fair

Im looking forward to seeing if the builds change much with the buffs coming in

[lost violet]

raidbots sim is valid now? does it work as intended yet? havn't touched it since pre patch

[jolly delta]

Yes, it should

[pale fable]

The buffs solidified my decision to main boomkin. Especially since shadow got giga nerfed in m+

[lofty depot]

they dont

[jolly delta]

[lofty depot]

if i see another ec sim

i will start a holy war

[jolly delta]

[hasty ermine]

another quick question:
am i seeing it right, that i use lunar eclipse only if i can guarantee to hit 4+ targets with starfire? (except when i play elunes choosen)

[jolly delta]

you're lucky im too busy building talents

[acoustic sky]

With the mastery change, is balance still going to be it's best in high keys, or will it be good in lower keys now?

[loud kettle]

leak detected

[jolly delta]

[lofty depot]

could be better in lower keys

ur still dotting things tho, need to for shooting stars

[acoustic star]

should I be aiming to weave an instacast between each starfire to ensure I'm not wasting any starweaver procs for EC? Without gimping my Astral Energy for Eclipse windows ofc...

[lofty depot]

u cant waste weaver procs unless u munch them which doesnt have anytihng to do with starfire

other hand, cosmos u can waste them

[minor anchor]

ye and it fckig sucks

[lofty depot]

?

have u considered using ur procs?

[minor anchor]

Yes, have you tried inputting surge into a wrath cast only to have your ap not change and get 3 seconds of solstice

NOT GOOD

[lofty depot]

have u considered pressing surge again

[acoustic star]

I mean cosmos***

should I be aiming to weave an instacast between each starfire to ensure I'm not wasting any cosmos procs for EC? Without gimping my Astral Energy for Eclipse windows ofc...

[lofty depot]

the sim "plays like a human", it reacts to cosmos procs

if u get a cosmos proc u should be using it

[minor anchor]

U should be trying to structure your rotation in a way where hard casting 2 builders occurs as little as possible yes

[acoustic star]

thanks.

[minor anchor]

I went trough this though exercise about a month ago, trying to figure out if cancelling a wrath to use the proc might be good. it isnt-

It obviously is more complex than this, like when thinking about what spells you actually cast in Boat windows and such

[acoustic star]

it'd never be good game if that was the case imo...

[minor anchor]

yeah it felled horrible

[lofty depot]

its not as big as u think anymore

dont even track boat

[minor anchor]

What im actually implying that (on Single Target) you spend your Insta builder and than HARD cast a wrath between every single spender proc or not

avoiding AP overcap of course

so you minimaze wrath -> wrath sequance where you might munch a cosmos

so my Boat instead of being basically pure spenders will be bunch of builders

[lofty depot]

theres no boat variable in the sim

dont worry

[frosty slate]

i mean isnt there many reasons to spend in boat anyway? i also stopped tracking boat a while ago

[minor anchor]

yeah but apl quick sim recap doesnt play like that

[lofty depot]

thats because the way u think about it doesnt rely on that

[minor anchor]

Im also not "tracking boat"

[lofty depot]

yes but u natuarlly do it

[minor anchor]

but like im in my head trackin it because its kinda hard not to know when im pressing eclipse

[lofty depot]

ur dumping asp at start of eclipse and its doing it anyway

[frosty slate]

you want starlord anyway im presuming

[lofty depot]

for many reason

[minor anchor]

yes i forgot to add that

Im getting 3 starlord 1st 3 gcd's

[median rapids]

hey guys, anyone have a script for dots? i cant find anything

on last patch, i can use, but now, isnt not work

[vital hound]

what ya mean script

[lucid olive]

you can not change nameplates based on active dots anymore

[sly wadi]

during the opener for keeper, if a wrath triggers a free spender, do we just send that and then continue with the opener as written?

[copper sun]

Could anyone give me the gdoc link, please 🙏

[lofty depot]

depends where u are in the opener

[lucid olive]

no

the picture of it is all you need

[lofty depot]

hmm, thought it wasnt needed at all

[vital hound]

the orbit breaker change is big sad

[lofty depot]

smh

[lucid olive]

those sheets are at best misinformation and at worst actively a scam by internet grifters

[vital hound]

gamz forgetting the talking points

[sly wadi]

literally one of the first 3 wraths, before you've even moon/sunfired

[lofty depot]

make big moon good agian

[vital hound]

please dont

remember pressing that shit

[lofty depot]

u would save it til u opened in eclipse

[sly wadi]

gotcha, thanks, that makes sense

[lucid olive]

no just send the cosmos proc in eclipse

the only thing to care about there is not wasting a potential Cosmos proc

which you would only do the next time you use Wrath/Starfire

and after the 3 Wraths before pull you're not casting another Wrath/Starfire until after you've spent Starsurge

[sly wadi]

alright, then lets just throw one more wrench in there, lets say it was the first or second wrath, would you spend the cosmos proc, then wrath again and continue the opener? I know I'm being pedantic, but just trying to feel out how important the procs are

[lucid olive]

No because spending the proc pulls the boss

[sly wadi]

yup yup, right you are

[lucid olive]

is this a quiz show

[jaunty blaze]

[sly wadi]

nah, sorry, I'm just needlessly curious

[lofty depot]

"yOu dOnT hAvE tO aNsWeR?!"

[lucid olive]

didnt wanna risk losing out on the cash prize

[lofty depot]

gotta retell everyone its 3t to starfall now that asked in the last 3 days

ur prize is coming, dont worry

[median rapids]

Is there an add-on that does this?

[jolly delta]

this what

[potent cargo]

this, vinter

[jolly delta]

[delicate perch]

well?

[jolly delta]

[dull dust]

im off to spread misinformation and lies

any suggestions

[delicate perch]

pick a class that got buffed and is now simming well and tell people it's oversimming

[jolly delta]

boomie

[dull dust]

so like boomkin

[jolly delta]

🤝

[spice roost]

how much is our tierset worth now %

[delicate perch]

nah feral

[sly wadi]

tell arms players their lack of dps is all in their heads, spec is actually fine

[delicate perch]

that's correct though?

[sly wadi]

xD

[dull dust]

feral oversimming have u seen their apl!!

it looks like aliens made it!!!

[cloud citrus]

9000 lines

[dull dust]

@loud kettle

[cloud citrus]

and thast jus the main no functions

[delicate perch]

ferals getting nerfed though trust

[dull dust]

boomy will reign supreme

[loud kettle]

Half of the apl is just making trinket and cds line up

The bottom portion ive seen people link is quite literally just 1 list that you can change to hardcode in timers, its not even active by default

[tender elbow]

folks, do we know which tanks are likely to be played post changes? (given that bear was nerfed, I assume it won't be them(

[jaunty blaze]

it will for sure be 1 of the 6 tank classes

[dull dust]

but its funny to look at

and thus I shall meme

[carmine acorn]

hey guys, how broken is raidbots? my 240 balance druid is simming 41k but my 228 demo lock is simming 51k xD

[dull dust]

why are u 3 now btw

[loud kettle]

One of these specs are getting nerfed a lot and the other is getting buffed a lot on tuesday

[dull dust]

wernt u 2

[loud kettle]

So...

[carmine acorn]

i know but 41k is still way off from the 89k pre buffs, is that with full bis?

[jaunty blaze]

those numbers are always with maxed out gear

[spice roost]

fwiw i sim 47k atm on boomie and on tuesday i sim 60

[carmine acorn]

ah ok

[potent cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/real-estate-freedom-llama-bouncing-gif-16430000

[sharp trail]

Tuesday we change from EC?

[carmine acorn]

not that bad then

[potent cargo]

prancing around telling everyone that EC ST is highest dps

[dull dust]

I told 3 disc's that boomkin is 120k we are hiding sims

[spice roost]

omg lol

[dull dust]

prep the gates

[jaunty blaze]

why are we telling them

it was supposed to be a secret

[dull dust]

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

boomkin would sim 120... if they pressed n and played feral

mmhm mmhm

[potent cargo]

I need to prepot 2 addy to play feral

[dull dust]

boomkin will be 120k

if i was smarter

[jaunty blaze]

never too late

[spice roost]

how much is the tierset worth vs no set now

[jaunty blaze]

less than before

[spice roost]

ofc

[jaunty blaze]

i think 12% was mentioned but idk if thats accurate

[dull dust]

whatever number gives us it first

[carmine acorn]

are we changing anything in the talent trees next reset or is it the same as now?

asking because i need to practice rotation xD

[spice roost]

most likely running incarn in raid on most fights since theres adds

[jaunty blaze]

rotation will not change a lot anyway

[carmine acorn]

also where can i pracitce single target dummy this expansion ? xD

[lofty depot]

like 11.5-12% yes

[lofty depot]

well the silvermoon dummies are ass so drongol

🙂

[jaunty blaze]

they are beyond ass

[lofty depot]

should be hte same

[jaunty blaze]

whoever thought of this placement

[carmine acorn]

drongol also has a lot of cleave, no?

[lofty depot]

thers dummies on top of the towers

[carmine acorn]

also, the dummy level doesnt matteR? if it doesnt i could use the toy

[dull dust]

guys

[lofty depot]

the toys are ?? no?

[dull dust]

wrong chat

[lofty depot]

nice

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

gj bud

[dull dust]

hate u bye

[jaunty blaze]

wtf

[spice roost]

chancel losing it

[carmine acorn]

ok i sim 41k but i do 33k xD i gotta git gud

[lofty depot]

time to go find where hes typing

probably some boomkin propaganda

[jaunty blaze]

sims arent an indicator of how your ingame performance turns out

plus sims usually are with full raid buffs

[spice roost]

sims are used for gear choices

[carmine acorn]

they are indeed full of raid buffs and pots and everything ok, then im probably ok

its not like its rocket science anyway

[deep ruin]

Hey guys, are people crafting yet or waiting until Season start

[spice roost]

im crafting a staff next week idk

[jaunty blaze]

same

[dull dust]

ask ur mom

[glacial steeple]

I crafted an OH because I'm impatient

[spice roost]

thats a bad choice

[jaunty blaze]

i hope not with sparks

[spice roost]

really bad idea

to craft a oh

[carmine acorn]

since im probably tanking m+ i should probably craft like a neck or something but i guess ill craft staff

[lofty depot]

she said some dork with a voice of a chipmunk jsut called. she hung up

[spice roost]

haha

[dull dust]

real

[lofty depot]

[lofty depot]

tragic

[dull dust]

[lofty depot]

very tier, smh

chancel what are the mages saying to craft

am i starting a holy war

[spice roost]

there saying staff

[dull dust]

a stick

fwiw if u care about early prog at all u make a stick

even if u get one in vault

u just pick other option

[jaunty blaze]

pretty much every caster should

[dreamy cove]

ascendent stars and touch have same icon?? why

[glacial steeple]

I'm p much pugging and just run M+ with a few friends

Like I'm probably not even gonna step into Mythic raid at any point. Not super worried about that stuff

[lofty depot]

yea 100%

kk ty

[lofty depot]

its not crest efficient

[dreamy cove]

is it possible to change buff icons

[jaunty blaze]

if you can hack into the wow server

surely

[lofty depot]

ellesmere looksl ike hes working on it

[glacial steeple]

Make it a macro and change the art

[lofty depot]

did someone say ajyies is doing it?

idk

[lofty depot]

how do u make a buff icon a macro

hmmm

[dreamy cove]

got my hopes up...

[glacial steeple]

Brother I'm crafting OHs with Sparks

Assume I'm an idiot

[lofty depot]

i do, but then i ask question so u get smarter

build the people up

[dreamy cove]

oh ascendent stars isn't the insta cast one, not important to track I think

[lofty depot]

but u gotta break em down first

[lofty depot]

the instant cast is ascendent eclipse or somehting

[heavy iris]

why craft a 2h when the first boss drops a 1h mace ?

[dreamy cove]

ascendent fires looks like

[lofty depot]

why do u think u want a 1h mace?

[glacial steeple]

boom

[glacial steeple]

Because I already have an OH

[jaunty blaze]

why do you want to waste 180 crests

when 80 do more for you

[lofty depot]

if u upgrade a 1h and an oh...... it costs 80 more crests

[lofty depot]

i was asking him

check ur dms

[jaunty blaze]

healers can have the mace

they get nothing anyway

[lofty depot]

real

eelers are likely craftin staff too kek

[cedar bay]

what item is best for crafting?

[dull dust]

sticks really late in the raid too

theres a offhand semi early

[glacial steeple]

Staff

[cedar bay]

haste mastery?

[spice roost]

sim that

for stats

it was crit mastery for me

[delicate perch]

Oh no are people back with this crest waste crafting shit

[jaunty blaze]

Yuh

[delicate perch]

It’s not even a complex problem

[drowsy drum]

anyone have this doc link?

[jolly delta]

dont use that doc

dont talk about that doc

dont look at that doc

tell your friends to never talk about that doc

[jaunty blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-bugs-bunny-tell-me-more-doc-i'm-listening-gif-15453302722775143271

[jolly delta]

punch everyone that does

[daring gull]

hey you guys hear about that doc?

[vagrant sequoia]

Is there a rule of thumb to follow when it's worth the GCDs to multi-dot for Astral Power generation?

[lofty depot]

maybe mastery crit

[lofty depot]

depends how long they live prob and up to a certain count maybe

but u dot for shooting stars procs aswell

[vagrant sequoia]

Yeah, it's just that for averzion I'm thinking that it'll be worth to dot up the add that doesn't get cleared since it'll last the duration of tanks clearing them out.

[lofty depot]

that can also mess with ur procs

[spice roost]

does the rep trinken buffs here work outside of the voidstorm area

[lofty depot]

ur "funneling" and then u get an orbitbreaker proc on that invul add

[jaunty blaze]

Yes they do

[spice roost]

ok ty

[vagrant sequoia]

I think the extra astral power generation (getting an extra starsurge) will probably do more damage than the orbitbreaker proc on that add

[potent cargo]

works in raid

[spice roost]

ok

[dense dawn]

Hey everyone, Is this updated with the changes coming on Tuesday: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/balance-druid-pve-dps-spec-builds-talents?area=area_2

[maiden pasture]

https://cumslurper.pro/f/N8BmXD.png

[loud kettle]

cumslurper hm

[maiden pasture]

u dont like my image hosting site?

[jaunty blaze]

[loud kettle]

its very intriguing

[maiden pasture]

cumslurper.pro

[dull dust]

cum?

[dense dawn]

Yeah but thats to do with the text in the fields, i think i spoke to @lucid olive last time and he said that wasnt accurate.

[dull dust]

@lucid olive

[jaunty blaze]

But gamz doesn't write icy veins

[normal pilot]

bora's not as active wowhead's the only one that's being updated atm i think

[vagrant prawn]

@lofty depot I love the razorbacks draw

[lofty depot]

the fuck does that mean

[glacial steeple]

March Madness

He's talking about the hog roast

[lofty depot]

he said draw

were out here drawing?

[nimble tangle]

I don’t it’s from PEETKO discord

[lofty depot]

holy shit thats next week

[glacial steeple]

They draw from a pool who they're going to play

[lofty depot]

(ive been doing stuff)

(i suddenly forgot pool bets im sorry)

[wicked shuttle]

no gambling

[glacial steeple]

it's a tournament

[lofty depot]

its not gambling

[glacial steeple]

A college basketball tournament

[wicked shuttle]

what did you mean pool bets

im aware of what march madness is

[lofty depot]

sorry that was a typo

it was pool beds

u know where u lay on them

[glacial steeple]

I am more confused now

[vital hound]

[glacial steeple]

and I was confused about the OH earlier

[lofty depot]

(stfu vel)

mods are watching

[glacial steeple]

🙁

[wicked shuttle]

gambling banned

no sports betting

[vital hound]

wheres the no gambling rule

[wicked shuttle]

[glacial steeple]

Arkansas razorbacks were mentioned for March madness the tournament

[potent cargo]

@rain kite @lime musk isnt this what pod keeps saying

[rain kite]

texass is an arkansas razorbacks fan

[potent cargo]

right

[lime musk]

[lofty depot]

can we talk about the march of madness in offtopic 👀

[lucid olive]

i never said anything about icyveins changelog date

if i did i must have misunderstood the question

or someone misunderstood the answer

[wicked shuttle]

meanwhile wowhead change log:
idk
updated
typo
updated
updated
idk

[noble quarry]

Hi where we stand on the Dps ranking with Boomie after the huge buff?

[nimble tangle]

@lofty depot @lucid olive what buff do we track now

[vital hound]

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