#balance
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huh it only drops in raid bro
you shoulda seen that coming man
I hope you make it tbh, because the best case for AI writing is the quality of writing of the current era of humans. We need actual writers to right the ship lol
You don't use the crucible?
True teue
what dungeons drop tier
people in tech feel the same
does these buffs change build at all

Brother you use the gear you get from mythic and can convert it into tier
True
when did they add this
Shadowlands?
ive not had my tierset since legion
any simms
Each week you either get a spark for crafting or a charge for tier
you'll get a spark every week now it just costs twice as many to make stuff now
which dungeon do i use the charge for tier in
you get the gear and then you talk to the elf in Silvermoon
theres a lot of elves there..
So you'd convert like shoulders from mythic to tier shoulders of the same ilvl
SHe's next to a big glowing pool and should have the purple quest notification
soma on his a game
i have to be when im fuckin slammin m0s for other idiots to get gear
my fucking dh went into this week at 240.5 ilvl
guess how im coming out
1 fking drop
Isn't it lock in?
you wouldnt lie about a change would you? 
no hes doing the m0 where u clock in
LOCK IN
@lucid olive @lofty depot u do NOT deserve a 20% aura buff
having just done that where no one in my group kicked
why is be playing ec
it was hell
Smoke break

WHY NOT
Because i said so
are we back
Yeah we back, time to clock in
We deserve to be so back
frostfire bangs

he didnt hear the news

they're not live yet right
Do buffs effect Cenarion vs Elune for raid do we think?
dotc still slams for a few days
hes training
bear ded login boomkin
ah no wait
i thought you were talking about boomie
I have bad news for you...
go away mage player
(jk I know nothing)
nah anyone playing boomkin for m0s is insane
nono
you're choosing not to listen
Wtf is this gif bruh 💀 🥀

haha yeah true
Did Balance get buff?

nah its a nerf
based
idk I typed cope and it popped up
3% to Wrath
Nice
My rl made me level and gear spriest maybe i can dabble a bit into it

I just need to know the numbers so I can go back to classic in peace
We dont have a spriest
March 17th tuning is here:
Overall they seem to add up to a ~17% buff
Disclaimer: There might be some bugs related to overrides in SimC so take the numbers with a minor pinch of salt, but they seem correct.
I think Blizzard takes cyber bullying very seriously
holy
where's the EC
Based gamz and the tc team saving us from EC on ST
I had to level and gear a spriest doing 0 dmg
W gamz

thanks for reminding me I hit 68 and stopped, whyd I waste 8levels
So you leveled as Boomkin?
Thank you. 🙂
idk i am just the messenger, sune did heavy lifting..
w io
Fellas. Are we OP now or what?
L deux
What about a mild pinch of MSG?

is 17% enough to beat tanks in dps?!
no
No actually
W @pallid bay 
How much more sandbagging we gotta do?
for now...
why ec convoke..
healer didnt heal him..
what does it mean? can i go EC in raid?
Oh fuck yeah I'm gonna convoke
lol so still only 101k st after the nerfs ?
whats the incarn build looking like
deleting kotg is a 100% ec buff
Is this using incarn or convoke for 17% buff?
open html report, choose a profile and scroll down to talents and open it up
also its using convoke
how much of a loss would incarn be tho
dont do it 
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rCHXWqMWhEm94bYQYNZRBx i did run this talent sim
lunar calling getting 120% seems noice
incarn seems ahead by like 0.4%
nice
are we top 5 dps now?
😭
i think dev evoker is still the winner of the tier rn
So is Druid A or S tire now?
At least B
according to Zorthas Tier S on M+ and Tier A on raid
Same xD
and?
he is doing maths and all but ofc is not perfect
How is he ranking the spec if he doesnt even have the numbers
no he's perfect
He's a tomato.
@potent cargo can't believe what I'm hearing
we love sitting here
Vibes
OCE people always tell the truth and never make up information
this is peak
Btw I didn't mean to be rude but I would like you to truly believe me when I say that his opinion (and many others in this current moment) are irrelevant
nono, zorthas is a knower and u show take what ever he says at gospel
he makes tierlists after all
exactly
accurate and truthful representation
real
He'd have to stream upside down then
oce is 10 toes down we dont need a tettles shout out
OCE deserves a shoutout tho
one of the few regions with a guild in the top 20 world rankigns
Gottem
only if the tomato recruited me
Idc, I just want rdruid dead
Hidden op until it's too late #stonks
best place to be
I don’t wanna scroll can someone forward the sim link to dmg profile
no
dont have to scroll to check pins
Oce is goated wdym
It's pinned
did u read the pins
Didn’t know it was pinned ty
he's charging his fireball!
of course we are
thats a good bit
well someone didnt know how to do %s
20% aura buff - 14% starfall nerf = 6% buff
the more they nerf resto druid the better it is for boomie m+ 🙏
also if you spec EC lunar calling does 20% more dmg
Balance Druid We Back?
can you show the ec convoke talents?
real good is an overshoot
yeah
Middle of the top
not shit is a great descriptor tho

this is problematic
Middle of the top is the best we've been start of season in years lol
i do feel a lot more people are gonna shift to EC now than KOTG
best start to a tier
is being middle
True
btw
We are pretty safe then
I just love starfire so much man
.... the aura buff is almost to what we were in TWW
yeah this is great news
balance is at what 29 aura?
Bruh that's got to be bait
feral is on 42 💀 and season hasn't even started
uhh idk if math
26?
or is it 29
was it 3+6
then 20
ec and convoke? the devils work
bleeding edge meta
Yeah it's actually satanic it makes no sense
just buff starfire smh
Hey! What race do you recomend for dps and astethics? i want to go horde, but idk what race i want to roll. Any tips?
Make Starfire proc on convoke 
nelf
the one you like
nelf
Last time i checked, thats alliance
I wish I could use that red owl again
Pick the race you think is coolest don't worry too much about racials unless you're bleeding edge
incorrect
nelf >
and the answer is not horde
I went Haranir since I like troll night elves and axolotls
meld always so bis
Well, tought i said i wanted to go horde in my message but
yea too bad
Yeah meld is crazy, but for what content 🤓
no horde for u
yea tahts incorrect
just be haranir
Tauren is cool
worgen clears
tauren crit is more dam
they can be both right
but meld is just giga better
ive been nelf the last 3 expantions, time for a change
ur gonna miss it instantly
new race always has most barbershop options
week 2 of keys
we're saved!
haranir for aberration buff i guess
We are assuming they do high keys tho
I still have sub 200 rings and cant get them as drops 
haranir for tummy
Fuck it man send haranir
Ouuf diddnt like any haranir forms XD
melding mechanics is good at all levels
change your xmog or something bud
i might just go troll, and look cool in my T3
Healer diff honestly if it don't 1 shot it's not my problem 
EC comes in raid? Please no
the only race i would give up meld for is draenei druids with a fabulous muscle goat form
Leave EC in mythic+ please
will probably never happen
leave EC
EC should leave, you are correct

never
Counterpoint, I love starfire
counterpoint, grow up
EC would have to be so far ahead to be played in raid
needs more fury of elune
FoE best spell NA
Downtime is a thing
Watch out or the OCE chickens will bully you
did our aoe get nerfed since the tier set got nerfed as well?
u missed the aura of 20%
they nerfed tierset cuz having 20% of ur damage in it is giga cringe
Thank God they fixed that
12% > 20%
so what percent buff is it to aoe since the single is 17%
Probably less than 17%
simming m+ is cringe
aoe 3t theres 1 raid fight... but like what are we doing
dev or
yea
There’s really no danger in crafting a spark 1h on any dual wielding spec imo
thats not just your opinion thats fact
with rogue being the only possible exception
but now my question is
should i vet track craft
i have 3 237s
Yeah you might as well
(i can only craft 1 vet item cause i already sent one xd)
You could upgrade m0 gear if you’d prefer
although i could also save those vets for a free champ upg next week
still nice to know outside of raid
thats a mental illness simulator so its actually worse for you to know
lmao fair
New to balance, Is eclipse bugged rn or am i running a talent that i dont know about that is keeping it in lunar eclipse?
Yes
Elunes chosen
read lunar calling
running ec keeping it as lunar?
It does yeah, you never want to wrath with elunes chosen
well hold on
now you've done it, you got arctic's attention
Not even in a boss fight just use starfire instead?
Correct
Ok ty guys
didn't gamz give us some info on wrath usage a few days ago in EC? rofl
taht probably changed with the lunar calling buff
cba rechecking
it was only like 0.2% anyway
wrath also getting buffed. cancel each other out?
20% of 100 vs 10%... idk tuff
Hi
As compared to feral druid, which type of raid boss are we better in dps?
Council, spread aoe we better?
it still feels like we are KOTG on most raid fights and casting starfall when adds come out?
why would a feral druid be better at spread aoe
only thing that matters is what spec ur better at

is there a point where you are "capped" with an enhancement? Like, dont pass 18% Haste / etc?
hehehe
bro doesnt know the infinite range frantic frenzy trick
idk what button feral even hits first to play the game so
Season 1 set Armor 4-piece: Fixed a bug causing the exploding Shooting Star to increment Orbit Breaker's count by 1 for every target hit. It now always counts as one Shooting Star, as intended.
How much nerf is this on AOE
its not cuz everything else got buffed
i felt to bad first two weeks
cant test coz packs dies in 10 seconds but feelsbad man
u werent gonna do damage dont worry

hi guy! does anyone know how much % dmg buff in overall we got? (mplus ofc)
why is it mplus ofc
you mean mplus the mini game?
save me from this nightmare i need balance apl update
is boomy back ?
its the the apl that needs updating 
never left
IIRC simc doesnt normally start using the new spell data until the day of patch
i didnt like its damage lately it felt behind
it doesnt, u need the overrides
its not a hotfix
i did the -4% to dev and +20% to boomy and dev is still on top lmao
like i know thats not completely accurate but its so funny
wdym
the special string
cuz u couldnt remember
mfers just throw out buzz words I swear
idk what override is
did anyone do the math on how much % we got down in overall?
why are we going down?
are we up?
nope your character now does 17% less damage gg
ignite got nerf?
that explains it
LMAO
does bro think he's in the fire mage discord?
i play 9 specs, just wondering
@dull dust get your m8
well ur in the wrong spec discord
the ignite nerf isnt that bad with the other buff we got dont worry
WE WILL BE GOING UP
its actually a 6.7% gain
x D
joined druid discord, took the motw tag, started asking about fire mage stuff

based
average mage chatter
thought this was fire discord LMAO
smh my head
honestly that's kinda smart for a mage to click accept tag
nah first time playing fire
hey guys are we dead now?? (I think we're the UH dk discord)
BAMKIN IS BOOMKIN
is fury of elune like waaay ahead of new moon?
mostly yes
you can probably play moons if you want to
its not like extreme difference if you pool and spend your moons correctly
awesome, idk why but moon spells have always been badass to me lol
love the animation too
+1 moons are cool
-1 moons do no dam
I keep forgetting that the arcantina exists
cast moon pooop
yea but one is casted
Arctic picks and chooses his moons
picky mooner
youtube is playing bangers today
Thanks for reminding me I need to do the weekly quests from there
thanks for the memories
ITS HARD TO SAY IT, TIME TO SAY IT, GOODBYEEEEEEE
hes not listening to fallout boy silly
missing out
boss dam
guardian so op
saddest shit was if i was boomy not even doing 50k i reckon
If only aug buffed the bear
better moonkin apl is up
hey guys unholy player here hows it going
thank you for the transaction
dk players thinking ur gonna play druid when uve not done a mechanic in 10 years
🤣
Im really struggling to find a UI that tracks when you are in an eclipse any recomendations?
the default blizzard cooldown manager can do it
you can set it to a progress bar too
Holy moly, that 20% flat dmg buff is not april's fool?
not yet
PIN
question on the pinned sim, if we are simming for st why are we taking talent points for dot extention on starfall instead of something like ue or radiant moonlight
man
the irony of pinging someone named read the pin
asking something
that can be answered by reading the pin
gotta love that
because theyre increases
hope that helps
Oh ye plenty of adds and such
maybe metoer storm too
what do u think the raid build will likely look like
meteorites moves around
likely sunseeker or maybe wild mushrooms if u want the burst
gm bala dudus
So we‘re back in Game?
Why is there more than a 3% buff
never left
I think im Dreaming tbh
new dev is the goat

lmao
20% I didn't think it possible
moonkin
look at first comment lmao
yea cuz i didnt do that before posting it
silly
@lofty depotwhere do u put the overrides in raidbots
r u simming in advanced or
no
what r u simming
live but i want to put the overrides for my character
WHAT OPTION ARE U SIMMING
top gear
Header expert mode
ty
u then have to check the box
ya i put the overrides in header and it doesnt change anything on the sim
#aura
override.player.spell_data=effect.179696.base_value=29
override.player.spell_data=effect.191146.base_value=29
override.player.spell_data=effect.191147.base_value=29
#starsurge
override.player.spell_data=effect.68268.sp_coefficient=3.44736
#starfall
override.player.spell_data=effect.280158.sp_coefficient=0.22192
#wrath
override.player.spell_data=effect.280098.sp_coefficient=1.331
show sim
105k dps from sim, holy we are back
u also didnt put all of them in
Is that a typo? They mean Starfire, right
Yes
yea the QA person doesnt know what hes doing
he also wrote starfall decrease by 14%, clearly a typo
well as long as Devourer DH's damage is "reduaced", correct type of QA
20% boomkin buff, but other classes also gets buffed.. so at the end we stay where we are :p
incorrect
Def meant starfire
I think that moonkin buff had to take us from damn near the bottom to actually pretty good
Which is astonishing
I’ve never seen a buff that big
Okay but we continue sandbagging tho… right?
Wasn't feral +23% aura buffed once
let's hope it's enough
why is tettles the girl

i thought the same 

Because boomkins are kissing him
this is the funniest thing I've made all year please laugh
Can you not understand the image??
It's funny
I laughed
Me when I don’t understand numbers (I don’t)
😁 we will see
can you help me understand numbers
yea sure fuck it send it
SHESHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
hi i usually change spec (feral - balance) based on dps perfomance
based on the latest tuning which fight will balance outshine feral druid in raid?
The pros clearly outweighing the cons
boomies are definitely furries
😭
maybe a few

Speak for yourself, I use glyph of stars
This.
I dont bear form abilities cus im not a furry
oh i wanted to know the feral vs balance druid dps raid niche. which is better at what after the buffs.
i am assuming ST is feral > balance
aoe: balance > feral
burst: aoe on adds feral > balance
council: balance > feral
etc
so that i can pre plan which spec for which boss during raids
esketit
Nobody knows

feral aoe burst
lmfao
Just depends if frantic frenzy timings line up well enough
im raiding on tuesday should i craft a staff
then
with just sparks
vs waiting til 31st for vault
You cant craft staff next reset
We have 3 sparks next reset?
we have 3 now
we have 3 sparks now
4
Oh
u get 1 every week from now on
yea
Sounds like mythic staff from week 1
That's how it goes
I think ive never seen staff in vault
see idc tbf
skill issue
It's not even bad tbh
Jesus 17% up
boomy is SO back
0 +17% its still 0 right ?
the leafs are entering oh no
?

We need sims with recent tunning vs all the classes
was the decrease in starfall damage necesarry, didnt feel like it was that strong
sims on st wont matter
all the boomkins come out of the woodwork and have ptsd and cant believe it
whole raid is adds
often times i feel like they dont want to aura buff us cuz theyre scared of our aoe
its still a buff to starfall 3.2%...
Ye
ya i was surprised we got this big of a buff tbh
Christmas miracle
arctic isnt it ur bedtime
U got 17 not 20 🥸
its week end

what if the aura is actually 20.3
fuggn better chill out lil gup
Kek
i am lying
maybe
ive been looking at aoe target counts for x ability
because i forgot to put those in the one gamz pushed

lol
Will this tunning change raid talents ? Imo no
could make convoke better
convoke is better

incarn sims higher i thought
(stfu)
thanks chancel
st kinda fake or
yep this is pad city raid
true
shut up
Ok 
ya "we" and stuff
i have a 90 boomkin
fotm time
so does gamz
am i not allowed in the club yet
and he hasnt logged in, in 3 days
As bear i hope
fotm maxxing with ret and boomy rn
no but i got beat st by a resto druid as boomy


skill issue
real
play resto
are we meta in m+ again?
is m+ out yet?
Asking the crystal ball
perchance
permaybe
how tf do you even know that 
what if he's appearing offline to avoid him

thats crazy

stalker
bamkin back on the menu?
but starfall decreased xD
also pretty nice as gamz said
that they moved things away from 4set
so baseline strength is better
we blastin
Where did u see that ?
So the famous phrase “are we buff yet” is not relevant anymore right
All damage increased by 20%. Not applied to PvP combat.
Starsurge damage increased by 8%. Not applied to PvP
Starfall damage decreased by 14%. Not applied to PvP
Does it adds up?
Like 20% flat and also 8% for star surge so 28 on it ?
look pin
Yes i think
Dammmm we eating good then
Starfall was up to 20% and after decreased by 14% finaly starfall was up
doesnt work that way look at pins
Is balance viable now?
sure
Is anyone else seeing the wowhead balance guide in Chinese?
No
Every spec is always viable. Might not be very competitive or in demand.
or even viable
anything is viable
you can clear most content eventually with a player down
so it doesnt matter
Some has to be on bench so others can play, that's also means viable i guess
thank you for your hard work!
does anyone know if there are any resource bars that add astral power of a spell while you are casting it to text, closest i've found is twintops but i only see an option for overlay not text
assuming you are saying
you want the astral number to be predictive based on cast finishing
i cant remember who but it might be being worked on
yeah predictive based on cast finishing, do you know if it's being worked on as part of an existing addon or a separate one so i can keep an eye out for it?
but i actually dont know if it's even doable
bc if i was going to write a way to do it i would assume it requires combat log reading or some shit
which is protected now
@pallid bay idk if you know

the $casting variable in twintop seems to be accurate (shows 8 when casting wrath, 10 casting starfire etc) but that only shows the current cast without adding it to astral power you already have, if both variables exist it feels like there should be a way to add them but idk if there's some weird api restriction that is making it hard
you cant
your astral power is secret
can display your AP value, but not do any calculations on it
glyph_overlay.exe will solve this problem
makes sense, appreciate the answer
closest we can get is basically:
showing how much AP current cast will generate
display the prediction on the bar
can you put lines on asp bar still?
if you could render lines ig you could mix the predict + lines to visually see that you're about to go over a threshold point
wow just saw the patch notes and woo it feels good to see that big 20% buff lol
yeah you can still add lines, twintop has threshold lines for 1 2 and 3x starsurge, that plus what oi showed is closest we can get i suppose
need oiui asap
if my profiler is right performance on this addon doesnt seem great though not sure if there's other addons that also have the predictive overlay implemented
yo this ui blasts, can we get an import string?
I'll sell it to you for $5
So around 17% buff, is that overall. How much is ST buff and how much is aoe?
Okej cool, thanks!
youre welcome
ha
Is it possible now to color the charges blue/yellow depending on which eclipse is active?
what
u made me laugh is all nothing more

that's my worst nightmare

I am here to spread misery and hate
i am here to spread happiness and love

i think its comical the fotm rerollers absolutely got the rug pulled from under them like unholy dk ectect
you'd have be pretty low iq to think the changes weren't happening
aya i agree
absolute curve ball for the boomy buff numbers though
statement still stands
Unholy crying like they still aren't first
ohh noo we're only 10% better than #2 now
😭
I had a lock ready to go (mostly cause I did everything lmfao) I knew buffs would come but also wasn't sure how big
starting a gofundme for them rn
yeh same thing lol
🤝
think lock is stil good
I leveled 0 alts
but its not gapping

lock is fun, but like, boomie is where the heart is
ya i never expected that much
i dont think i can remember a spec recieveing a 20% aura
told my raid leader that I'd probably still play boomie unless it was somehow abysmal
UH just did (in reverse
)
lmao
technically yeah
ill take a look at it
Where can I get it 
its a homecook so basically nowhere
you need m33kauras
which is a WA fork
and the AP bar is my own addon

did anyone sim balance druid with new buffs?
Noone for sure
yes see pin
yea is a bit annoying
oi u just need to charge
fuck it dawg
or i will sell it and give u a kickback, lets say 3%
Collect the bag 
Oi, my beloved
I also saw some forks of WAs going around for midnight
idk if they have a weird pride thing going on, but I swear some of the addons that have come out have accomplished pretty close to what WAs could do
def think this is the best one https://github.com/m33shoq/M33kAuras/releases
Refer to the pins
yes but i think the buff on ST was greater than AoE
I even forked WAs this past week, but then I started writing another bag addon 😭
we do need more bag addons
😭
idk i'll think of some way to share this shit if people really want it
would be nice 
i want a lazy addon that tells me i need to get into eclipse when im out of it lmfao
hahahah and I know that 😭
Yes please
I assume we do not consume cosmos with starfall now on st ?
mmmmm
And maybe remove meteorites ?
u were already not playing meteorites most of the time
and u prob still fall st cause of weaver proc chance
nothing ever changes
more procs more gooder
Raid profile used meteorites with Incran
but thats pure st build isnt it
it is
Bro its on wowhead idk
Non convoke build was simming higher for me anyway
its something like this
but yea all of these funny talents
are all so dogshit
it doesnt really matter what u pick
theres like 6 talents that are between 0.01 of eachother
but u for sure click goldrin on st
this is for sure a more aoe build
awoo
where u click fall as a spender
u for sure have space to use this on dragons or something
where u just dont click goldrin maybe
u can argue depends
its still starfall
based on the current sim
💀 kk ty
god forbid an mf has to click a different button
idk its good more dopamine
procs always funny
What u feel avout FoE and trees? isnt it clonky
why
dont think our st build is gonna use foe but fuck knows
it is rn
the timings are a bit shitty imo but otherwise
and it just gets better with adds
the 105k one?
ah yer I was just looking at a 104k since it was the only one that had an ability list to reference
but u play foe i thinks in raid
at least fwiw
no reason to think about pure st stuff
foe and trees
gives u some nice asp gen for when it matters
that's some good dopamine
theres a talent sim with everything in it
we love big dmg windows
if u scroll a bit
i mean you can play incarn for sure
the sims do favor incarn
if the gap isn't that much you just play whats best for fight i spose
might be a phase you really want to blast, certain timings etc
maybe salhadaar dmg amp convoke could be better idk
so in a realistic scenario convoke is more ahead
something like that
but the longer a fight is the better incarn becomes for the same reason
honestly I would probably just end up playing convoke anyway
a brother needs time to scratch his nose
the shorter a fight is less eclipse uptime you need so convoke is better
think there's practical benefits of having ur damage go out frontloaded in a way
get mechanic in the ope suddenly your cd is binned
🙂
no mechanics really force u to do anything like that
and incarn if uve looked at a sim
yeah with correct talent its the same
just spams spenders for like 10 globals straight
7 dps 
actually kinda crazy
well tuned!!
is this with the buffs?













