#balance

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real flax
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he's in key

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not gonna reply

flat pewter
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huh it only drops in raid bro

eager raft
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you shoulda seen that coming man

merry ibex
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I hope you make it tbh, because the best case for AI writing is the quality of writing of the current era of humans. We need actual writers to right the ship lol

glacial steeple
lucid olive
dull dust
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True teue

flat pewter
spiral star
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people in tech feel the same

spice roost
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does these buffs change build at all

gentle scroll
glacial steeple
flat pewter
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when did they add this

glacial steeple
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Shadowlands?

flat pewter
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ive not had my tierset since legion

jade drift
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any simms

glacial steeple
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Each week you either get a spark for crafting or a charge for tier

ripe slate
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you'll get a spark every week now it just costs twice as many to make stuff now

fiery veldt
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can we use ai to make a better boomy form?

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since blizzard sucks at it

flat pewter
glacial steeple
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you get the gear and then you talk to the elf in Silvermoon

flat pewter
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theres a lot of elves there..

glacial steeple
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So you'd convert like shoulders from mythic to tier shoulders of the same ilvl

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SHe's next to a big glowing pool and should have the purple quest notification

flat pewter
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oh i have quest notifications turned off

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i only do dungeons

dense steeple
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you cant fool me

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quit baiting

craggy sonnet
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soma on his a game

dense steeple
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i have to be when im fuckin slammin m0s for other idiots to get gear

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my fucking dh went into this week at 240.5 ilvl

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guess how im coming out

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1 fking drop

wicked shuttle
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YES

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WE'RE BACK

lofty depot
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STOP TYPING

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CLOCK IN

glacial steeple
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Isn't it lock in?

drifting nova
lofty depot
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no hes doing the m0 where u clock in

fiery kindle
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LOCK IN

lofty depot
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hes clocked in

scarlet tapir
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@lucid olive @lofty depot u do NOT deserve a 20% aura buff

drifting nova
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having just done that where no one in my group kicked

delicate perch
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why is be playing ec

drifting nova
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it was hell

trail heath
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Smoke break

delicate perch
scarlet tapir
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Because i said so

fiery bough
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are we back

delicate perch
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I deserve it though right?

glacial steeple
next trench
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We deserve to be so back

scarlet tapir
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Lowkeynually no frost buffs

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I dont wanna play arcane again

drifting nova
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frostfire bangs

meager storm
jolly delta
nimble tangle
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so all these, we still dead?

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at least in m+

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not raid

jolly delta
delicate perch
wet kraken
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Do buffs effect Cenarion vs Elune for raid do we think?

delicate perch
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dotc still slams for a few days

jolly delta
delicate perch
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kekwpoint bear ded login boomkin

jolly delta
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i thought you were talking about boomie

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I have bad news for you...

jolly delta
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(jk I know nothing)

gray topaz
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surely balance is good now

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surely

delicate perch
jolly delta
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you're choosing not to listen

true viper
jolly delta
delicate perch
kindred token
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Did Balance get buff?

delicate perch
meager storm
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nah its a nerf

delicate perch
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based

gray topaz
glacial steeple
kindred token
scarlet tapir
gray topaz
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I just need to know the numbers so I can go back to classic in peace

scarlet tapir
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We dont have a spriest

lucid olive
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March 17th tuning is here:

Overall they seem to add up to a ~17% buff

Sim

Disclaimer: There might be some bugs related to overrides in SimC so take the numbers with a minor pinch of salt, but they seem correct.

glacial steeple
delicate perch
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holy

normal pilot
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where's the EC

potent cargo
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Based gamz and the tc team saving us from EC on ST

scarlet tapir
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I had to level and gear a spriest doing 0 dmg

maiden pasture
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W gamz

scarlet tapir
drifting nova
glacial steeple
lucid olive
true viper
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w io

potent cargo
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W sune

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W chan

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W gas

maiden ember
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Fellas. Are we OP now or what?

potent cargo
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L deux

tacit oriole
potent cargo
wind seal
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is 17% enough to beat tanks in dps?!

drifting nova
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no

glacial steeple
maiden pasture
cosmic elbow
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How much more sandbagging we gotta do?

jolly delta
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you're safe

jolly delta
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for now...

lucid olive
jolly delta
lucid olive
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that looks fake

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kotg incarn down 30%

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xddddddd

maiden pasture
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wtf happened in kotg incarn

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😭

lucid olive
maiden pasture
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oh wait we're convoke gaming

nimble tangle
glacial steeple
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Oh fuck yeah I'm gonna convoke

livid walrus
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lol so still only 101k st after the nerfs ?

spice roost
normal pilot
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hm 1.1% is nothing

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time to find some bugs to make EC better

drifting nova
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deleting kotg is a 100% ec buff

trail heath
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Is this using incarn or convoke for 17% buff?

lucid olive
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open html report, choose a profile and scroll down to talents and open it up

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also its using convoke

trail heath
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Tyty

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Phone said nope we ain’t gonna open that

spice roost
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how much of a loss would incarn be tho

maiden pasture
lucid olive
grim crater
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lunar calling getting 120% seems noice

lucid olive
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incarn seems ahead by like 0.4%

spice roost
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nice

pearl wagon
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are we top 5 dps now?

normal pilot
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god no

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you won't fight tanks anymore

maiden pasture
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i think dev evoker is still the winner of the tier rn

kindred token
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So is Druid A or S tire now?

glacial steeple
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At least B

pearl wagon
kindred token
jolly delta
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I'll keep saying it

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bugs are a mistake

pearl wagon
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oh now tier ???? (between S and A) for both Raid and M+ lol

jolly delta
pearl wagon
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and?

delicate perch
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zorthas would never lie that is just a disclaimer

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100% accurate

pearl wagon
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he is doing maths and all but ofc is not perfect

jolly delta
delicate perch
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no he's perfect

tough olive
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He's a tomato.

delicate perch
lofty depot
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we love sitting here

flat pewter
lofty depot
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this is peak

jolly delta
# pearl wagon and?

Btw I didn't mean to be rude but I would like you to truly believe me when I say that his opinion (and many others in this current moment) are irrelevant

lofty depot
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nono, zorthas is a knower and u show take what ever he says at gospel

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he makes tierlists after all

potent cargo
flat pewter
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tettles should shout out OCE in RWF

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use his platform for good

delicate perch
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real

glacial steeple
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He'd have to stream upside down then

potent cargo
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oce is 10 toes down we dont need a tettles shout out

flat pewter
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OCE deserves a shoutout tho

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one of the few regions with a guild in the top 20 world rankigns

potent cargo
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wont be top 20 anymore since im gone

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top 10 easy

glacial steeple
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Gottem

flat pewter
nimble tangle
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Idc, I just want rdruid dead

glad helm
lofty depot
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best place to be

fallow crater
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I don’t wanna scroll can someone forward the sim link to dmg profile

delicate perch
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no

lucid olive
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dont have to scroll to check pins

glad helm
glacial steeple
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It's pinned

fallow crater
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Didn’t know it was pinned ty

glacial steeple
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he's charging his fireball!

flat pewter
lucid olive
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thats a good bit

lofty depot
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well someone didnt know how to do %s

true viper
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20% aura buff - 14% starfall nerf = 6% buff

dense steeple
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quick maffs

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dont need no water suckin clanka

snow elm
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the more they nerf resto druid the better it is for boomie m+ 🙏

grim crater
quiet stream
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Balance Druid We Back?

jade grotto
nova ocean
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Boomie seems like it might be real good now

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I'm guessing

dense steeple
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real good is an overshoot

grim crater
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yeah

vital hound
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Middle of the top

dense steeple
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not shit is a great descriptor tho

vital hound
grim crater
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exaclty

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getting better

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but wouldn't say S

lofty depot
nova ocean
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Middle of the top is the best we've been start of season in years lol

grim crater
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i do feel a lot more people are gonna shift to EC now than KOTG

lofty depot
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is being middle

nova ocean
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True

lofty depot
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btw

nova ocean
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We are pretty safe then

glacial steeple
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I just love starfire so much man

lofty depot
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.... the aura buff is almost to what we were in TWW

fiery veldt
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we gunna be just fine

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im readuy

grim crater
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yeah this is great news

dry mantle
sudden flame
sudden flame
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feral is on 42 💀 and season hasn't even started

lofty depot
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26?

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or is it 29

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was it 3+6

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then 20

sudden flame
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can see it here

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in the sim

drifting nova
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ec and convoke? the devils work

lofty depot
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HLOY WERE SO BACK

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tww was 34?

jade grotto
drifting nova
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keep convoke away fromy my ec

hoary torrent
drifting nova
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just buff starfire smh

cunning bronze
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Hey! What race do you recomend for dps and astethics? i want to go horde, but idk what race i want to roll. Any tips?

hoary torrent
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Make Starfire proc on convoke PepeLaugh

drifting nova
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only answer

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although zandalar has cool flight forms

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the big red owl

delicate perch
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nelf

cunning bronze
drifting nova
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I wish I could use that red owl again

hoary torrent
drifting nova
lofty depot
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meld is too good

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this season has a lot of melds

glacial steeple
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I went Haranir since I like troll night elves and axolotls

delicate perch
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meld always so bis

cunning bronze
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Well, tought i said i wanted to go horde in my message but

delicate perch
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yea too bad

hoary torrent
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Yeah meld is crazy, but for what content 🤓

delicate perch
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no horde for u

lofty depot
lucid olive
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just be haranir

clear pasture
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worgen clears

lofty depot
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tauren crit is more dam

lucid olive
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they can be both right

lofty depot
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but meld is just giga better

drifting nova
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I've waited too long for human and dwarf druids

cunning bronze
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ive been nelf the last 3 expantions, time for a change

lofty depot
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ur gonna miss it instantly

lucid olive
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new race always has most barbershop options

lofty depot
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week 2 of keys

leaden seal
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we're saved!

lofty depot
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ur gonna tilt

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thats on jah

fiery kindle
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haranir for aberration buff i guess

hoary torrent
drifting nova
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I still have sub 200 rings and cant get them as drops couldyounot

quiet drift
hoary torrent
cunning bronze
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Ouuf diddnt like any haranir forms XD

lofty depot
delicate perch
cunning bronze
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i might just go troll, and look cool in my T3

hoary torrent
nimble tangle
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EC comes in raid? Please no

shrewd moss
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the only race i would give up meld for is draenei druids with a fabulous muscle goat form

nimble tangle
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Leave EC in mythic+ please

shrewd moss
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will probably never happen

delicate perch
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leave EC

dense steeple
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EC should leave, you are correct

nimble tangle
lofty depot
glacial steeple
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Counterpoint, I love starfire

lofty depot
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counterpoint, grow up

nimble tangle
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I only love this

hoary torrent
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EC would have to be so far ahead to be played in raid

glacial steeple
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needs more fury of elune

harsh herald
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FoE best spell NA

hoary torrent
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Downtime is a thing

glacial steeple
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Watch out or the OCE chickens will bully you

drifting nova
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they already lost once

flint leaf
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did our aoe get nerfed since the tier set got nerfed as well?

lofty depot
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u missed the aura of 20%

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they nerfed tierset cuz having 20% of ur damage in it is giga cringe

nova ocean
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Thank God they fixed that

lofty depot
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12% > 20%

flint leaf
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so what percent buff is it to aoe since the single is 17%

hoary torrent
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Probably less than 17%

dull dust
lofty depot
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aoe 3t theres 1 raid fight... but like what are we doing

dense steeple
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i had to do it arctic

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i sent spark on my dh

lofty depot
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dev or

dense steeple
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yea

eager raft
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There’s really no danger in crafting a spark 1h on any dual wielding spec imo

dense steeple
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thats not just your opinion thats fact

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with rogue being the only possible exception

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but now my question is

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should i vet track craft

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i have 3 237s

eager raft
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Yeah you might as well

dense steeple
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(i can only craft 1 vet item cause i already sent one xd)

eager raft
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You could upgrade m0 gear if you’d prefer

dense steeple
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although i could also save those vets for a free champ upg next week

flint leaf
lofty depot
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thats a mental illness simulator so its actually worse for you to know

flint leaf
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lmao fair

lethal lagoon
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New to balance, Is eclipse bugged rn or am i running a talent that i dont know about that is keeping it in lunar eclipse?

potent cargo
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Yes

lethal lagoon
warm briar
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Yes

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You can’t enter solar eclipse as EC

hoary torrent
sly wadi
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now you've done it, you got arctic's attention

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
potent cargo
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mfs cannot comprehend

warm current
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didn't gamz give us some info on wrath usage a few days ago in EC? rofl

lucid olive
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taht probably changed with the lunar calling buff

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cba rechecking

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it was only like 0.2% anyway

warm current
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wrath also getting buffed. cancel each other out?

lofty depot
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20% of 100 vs 10%... idk tuff

ebon parcel
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Hi
As compared to feral druid, which type of raid boss are we better in dps?
Council, spread aoe we better?

sturdy pumice
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it still feels like we are KOTG on most raid fights and casting starfall when adds come out?

dense steeple
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why would a feral druid be better at spread aoe

potent cargo
dense steeple
prisma jay
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is there a point where you are "capped" with an enhancement? Like, dont pass 18% Haste / etc?

potent cargo
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nah just sim every piece of gear/upgrade

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and draw a conclusion off that

sudden flame
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bro doesnt know the infinite range frantic frenzy trick

dense steeple
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idk what button feral even hits first to play the game so

nimble tangle
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Season 1 set Armor 4-piece: Fixed a bug causing the exploding Shooting Star to increment Orbit Breaker's count by 1 for every target hit. It now always counts as one Shooting Star, as intended.

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How much nerf is this on AOE

lofty depot
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its not cuz everything else got buffed

minor shard
lofty depot
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define back

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(were back)

minor shard
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i felt to bad first two weeks

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cant test coz packs dies in 10 seconds but feelsbad man

lofty depot
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u werent gonna do damage dont worry

soft peak
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hi guy! does anyone know how much % dmg buff in overall we got? (mplus ofc)

potent cargo
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no

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because wtf is mplus

lofty depot
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why is it mplus ofc

vernal pollen
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you mean mplus the mini game?

dense steeple
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save me from this nightmare i need balance apl update

reef vessel
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is boomy back ?

maiden pasture
lofty depot
maiden pasture
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IIRC simc doesnt normally start using the new spell data until the day of patch

reef vessel
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i didnt like its damage lately it felt behind

lofty depot
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its not a hotfix

dense steeple
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i did the -4% to dev and +20% to boomy and dev is still on top lmao

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like i know thats not completely accurate but its so funny

maiden pasture
dense steeple
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the special string

lofty depot
maiden pasture
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ye ik what overrides are but

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how does that go against what i said

lofty depot
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u said iirc

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i was confirming ur correctness for u

maiden pasture
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o

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i c

lofty depot
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cuz u couldnt remember

delicate perch
reef vessel
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idk what override is

soft peak
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did anyone do the math on how much % we got down in overall?

lofty depot
soft peak
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are we up?

wild dune
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down with the sickness

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!

lofty depot
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why would we be going down??

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we going uip

delicate perch
soft peak
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ignite got nerf?

delicate perch
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that explains it

dense steeple
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LMAO

sly wadi
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does bro think he's in the fire mage discord?

soft peak
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i play 9 specs, just wondering

delicate perch
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@dull dust get your m8

lofty depot
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well ur in the wrong spec discord

dense steeple
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the ignite nerf isnt that bad with the other buff we got dont worry

lofty depot
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WE WILL BE GOING UP

dense steeple
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its actually a 6.7% gain

soft peak
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Oh, yeah this is balance dont mind me

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x D

delicate perch
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x D

maiden pasture
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joined druid discord, took the motw tag, started asking about fire mage stuff

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based

wild dune
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average mage chatter

soft peak
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thought this was fire discord LMAO

wild dune
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smh my head

delicate perch
soft peak
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nah first time playing fire

delicate perch
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hey guys are we dead now?? (I think we're the UH dk discord)

lofty depot
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GOD IS REAL

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AND HE BUFF US

sturdy pumice
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BAMKIN IS BOOMKIN

reef surge
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is fury of elune like waaay ahead of new moon?

lucid olive
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mostly yes

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you can probably play moons if you want to

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its not like extreme difference if you pool and spend your moons correctly

reef surge
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awesome, idk why but moon spells have always been badass to me lol

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love the animation too

maiden pasture
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+1 moons are cool

lofty depot
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-1 moons do no dam

dull dust
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wrong

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auto moon blasts

jolly delta
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I keep forgetting that the arcantina exists

dull dust
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cast moon pooop

lofty depot
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thats not what moons is

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but yes

dull dust
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it looks like a moon

lofty depot
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yea but one is casted

maiden pasture
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Arctic picks and chooses his moons

dull dust
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picky mooner

sour rampart
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youtube is playing bangers today

sudden flame
dull dust
sour rampart
lofty depot
dull dust
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missing out

potent cargo
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boss dam

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guardian so op

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saddest shit was if i was boomy not even doing 50k i reckon

maiden pasture
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If only aug buffed the bear

lucid olive
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better moonkin apl is up

naive trail
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hey guys unholy player here hows it going

lucid olive
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thank you for the transaction

lofty depot
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dk players thinking ur gonna play druid when uve not done a mechanic in 10 years

wild dune
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🤣

void goblet
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Im really struggling to find a UI that tracks when you are in an eclipse any recomendations?

lucid olive
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the default blizzard cooldown manager can do it

ebon pulsar
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you can set it to a progress bar too

river galleon
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Holy moly, that 20% flat dmg buff is not april's fool?

lofty depot
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not yet

balmy light
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@lofty depot any tldr with buff

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Just woke up

lofty depot
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PIN

stone ledge
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question on the pinned sim, if we are simming for st why are we taking talent points for dot extention on starfall instead of something like ue or radiant moonlight

loud hull
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man

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the irony of pinging someone named read the pin

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asking something

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that can be answered by reading the pin

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gotta love that

lofty depot
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hope that helps

loud kettle
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Is aetherial kindling actually in st build

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I totally missed that

lofty depot
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not the full st build no

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but the likely raid build for most of them, prob

loud kettle
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Oh ye plenty of adds and such

lofty depot
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maybe metoer storm too

stone ledge
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and assuming some fights (like twin dragons) we take 100% faster starfall

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big padda

spice roost
lofty depot
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meteorites moves around

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likely sunseeker or maybe wild mushrooms if u want the burst

jaunty blaze
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gm bala dudus

worldly plume
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So we‘re back in Game?

jaunty blaze
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Why is there more than a 3% buff

lofty depot
worldly plume
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I think im Dreaming tbh

lofty depot
jaunty blaze
lofty depot
spice roost
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lmao

jaunty blaze
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20% I didn't think it possible

leaden birch
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Who got gigad more, moonkins or havoc dh

lofty depot
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moonkin

spice roost
delicate perch
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real

lofty depot
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silly

spice roost
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@lofty depotwhere do u put the overrides in raidbots

lofty depot
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r u simming in advanced or

spice roost
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no

worldly plume
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And we didnt even close dc like Retri did……

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Crazy

lofty depot
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what r u simming

spice roost
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live but i want to put the overrides for my character

lofty depot
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WHAT OPTION ARE U SIMMING

spice roost
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top gear

lofty depot
lucid olive
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Header expert mode

spice roost
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ty

lofty depot
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u then have to check the box

spice roost
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ya i put the overrides in header and it doesnt change anything on the sim

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#aura
override.player.spell_data=effect.179696.base_value=29
override.player.spell_data=effect.191146.base_value=29
override.player.spell_data=effect.191147.base_value=29

#starsurge
override.player.spell_data=effect.68268.sp_coefficient=3.44736

#starfall
override.player.spell_data=effect.280158.sp_coefficient=0.22192

#wrath
override.player.spell_data=effect.280098.sp_coefficient=1.331

lofty depot
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show sim

tiny nimbus
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105k dps from sim, holy we are back

lofty depot
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u also didnt put all of them in

muted remnant
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Is that a typo? They mean Starfire, right

jaunty blaze
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Yes

lofty depot
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yea the QA person doesnt know what hes doing

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he also wrote starfall decrease by 14%, clearly a typo

muted remnant
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well as long as Devourer DH's damage is "reduaced", correct type of QA

cedar pumice
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20% boomkin buff, but other classes also gets buffed.. so at the end we stay where we are :p

wicked shuttle
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I think that moonkin buff had to take us from damn near the bottom to actually pretty good

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Which is astonishing

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I’ve never seen a buff that big

upper trail
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Okay but we continue sandbagging tho… right?

muted remnant
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Wasn't feral +23% aura buffed once

sharp aurora
muted remnant
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let's hope it's enough

lofty depot
brave gulch
delicate perch
lofty depot
jaunty blaze
delicate perch
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Because boomkins are kissing him

sharp aurora
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this is the funniest thing I've made all year please laugh

delicate perch
#

Can you not understand the image??

jaunty blaze
#

It's funny

brave gulch
#

I laughed

delicate perch
cedar pumice
hollow mist
lofty depot
#

i dont think i want u seeing anything

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lakerzzzzzzzzzzzzz i play bamkin for pvp or

hollow mist
lofty depot
#

SHESHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ebon parcel
#

hi i usually change spec (feral - balance) based on dps perfomance
based on the latest tuning which fight will balance outshine feral druid in raid?

lofty depot
#

outshine at what

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aura, yes
not being a furry, yes
boss damage, no

jaunty blaze
#

The pros clearly outweighing the cons

hollow mist
#

boomies are definitely furries

jaunty blaze
#

😭

lofty depot
#

maybe a few

jaunty blaze
#

I was referring to your list if you mean that

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Edit moment

hollow mist
lunar ice
#

Speak for yourself, I use glyph of stars

tardy hare
#

I dont bear form abilities cus im not a furry

ebon parcel
# lofty depot outshine at what

oh i wanted to know the feral vs balance druid dps raid niche. which is better at what after the buffs.
i am assuming ST is feral > balance
aoe: balance > feral
burst: aoe on adds feral > balance
council: balance > feral
etc
so that i can pre plan which spec for which boss during raids

twin lotus
#

esketit

loud kettle
#

Just depends if frantic frenzy timings line up well enough

spice roost
#

im raiding on tuesday should i craft a staff

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then

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with just sparks

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vs waiting til 31st for vault

tardy hare
#

You cant craft staff next reset

lofty depot
#

yes u can

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i just likel\y wouldnt

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but idk...... if u need the dam

tardy hare
#

We have 3 sparks next reset?

spice roost
#

we have 3 now

lofty depot
#

we have 3 sparks now

worldly plume
#

4

tardy hare
#

Oh

lofty depot
#

u get 1 every week from now on

tardy hare
#

Cool

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I was told dungeon pool has 3 staffs with haste mastery

lofty depot
#

yea

tardy hare
#

Sounds like mythic staff from week 1

lofty depot
#

yea surely

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(ive never got a weapon week 1)

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ive always crafted staff

jaunty blaze
#

That's how it goes

tardy hare
#

I think ive never seen staff in vault

lofty depot
#

see idc tbf

dull dust
#

skill issue

lofty depot
#

its fine, im used to it

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prefer it tbf

jaunty blaze
#

It's not even bad tbh

fathom blade
#

Jesus 17% up

pseudo quartz
#

boomy is SO back

fathom blade
#

0 +17% its still 0 right ?

versed hawk
#

Isn't tuning still ass for this spec

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Even after buffs

spice roost
#

the leafs are entering oh no

lofty depot
#

?

jaunty blaze
fathom blade
#

We need sims with recent tunning vs all the classes

pseudo quartz
#

listen here pal

terse garden
#

was the decrease in starfall damage necesarry, didnt feel like it was that strong

spice roost
#

sims on st wont matter

lofty depot
#

all the boomkins come out of the woodwork and have ptsd and cant believe it

spice roost
#

whole raid is adds

lofty depot
#

its still a buff to starfall 3.2%...

jaunty blaze
#

Ye

spice roost
#

ya i was surprised we got this big of a buff tbh

lofty depot
#

i forsure wasnt expecting 20

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unless they gutted tier

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and they didnt even do that

jaunty blaze
#

Christmas miracle

dull dust
#

arctic isnt it ur bedtime

fathom blade
lofty depot
dull dust
lofty depot
#

fuggn better chill out lil gup

dull dust
#

i fixed some stuff so its actually 20 if u count those

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🤓

fathom blade
#

Kek

lofty depot
#

doubt

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he hasnt linked me a sim, so hes lying

jaunty blaze
#

But now all the minigamers will show up again no?

#

😭

dull dust
#

i am lying

dull dust
#

ive been looking at aoe target counts for x ability

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because i forgot to put those in the one gamz pushed

spice roost
#

lol

fathom blade
#

Will this tunning change raid talents ? Imo no

lofty depot
#

could make convoke better

dull dust
#

convoke is better

jaunty blaze
spice roost
#

incarn sims higher i thought

lofty depot
#

(stfu)

delicate perch
#

thanks chancel

dull dust
lofty depot
delicate perch
spice roost
jaunty blaze
#

If it's perfect why is 1 number higher

dull dust
#

shut up

jaunty blaze
#

Ok SadCat

lofty depot
#

cuz mage player doesnt know what perfect is

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always complain

dull dust
#

wym im a boomkin now

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it does more dmg

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fotm time

lofty depot
#

ya "we" and stuff

dull dust
#

i have a 90 boomkin

pseudo quartz
#

fotm time

lofty depot
#

so does gamz

dull dust
#

am i not allowed in the club yet

lofty depot
#

and he hasnt logged in, in 3 days

dull dust
#

i just did m0s

jaunty blaze
#

As bear i hope

pseudo quartz
#

fotm maxxing with ret and boomy rn

dull dust
jaunty blaze
dull dust
lofty depot
#

skill issue

dull dust
#

real

lofty depot
#

i wonder if i still paly bear week 1

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hmm

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ezpz keys surely

dull dust
#

play resto

dense girder
#

are we meta in m+ again?

lofty depot
#

is m+ out yet?

jaunty blaze
#

Asking the crystal ball

pseudo quartz
#

perchance

lofty depot
#

permaybe

delicate perch
jaunty blaze
delicate perch
#

what if he's appearing offline to avoid him

jaunty blaze
lofty depot
#

thats crazy

delicate perch
dull dust
#

stalker

warm ridge
#

bamkin back on the menu?

tranquil vault
#

All damage increased by 20% 🙂

#

nice to wake up with

vital swift
#

but starfall decreased xD

dull dust
#

still gained aoe dam

twin lotus
#

also pretty nice as gamz said

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that they moved things away from 4set

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so baseline strength is better

vital swift
#

2set still crazy i think

#

falling stars doing big dam even without set

vital swift
#

we blastin

sharp trail
#

Where did u see that ?

round field
#

source

#

made it up

jaunty blaze
#

Can find it on wowhead

pale halo
#

So the famous phrase “are we buff yet” is not relevant anymore right

sharp trail
#

All damage increased by 20%. Not applied to PvP combat.
Starsurge damage increased by 8%. Not applied to PvP
Starfall damage decreased by 14%. Not applied to PvP

#

Does it adds up?

#

Like 20% flat and also 8% for star surge so 28 on it ?

dull dust
#

look pin

raw fulcrum
#

Yes i think

sharp trail
#

Dammmm we eating good then

raw fulcrum
#

Starfall was up to 20% and after decreased by 14% finaly starfall was up

spice roost
sharp trail
#

How do I look at pins ? Sorry not used to discord

#

Found

pale halo
#

If ur on phone tap #balance on top and u will see pins

calm island
#

Is balance viable now?

potent cargo
#

sure

vital swift
#

balance always viable bro

#

you just vibe with it

tropic pollen
#

Is anyone else seeing the wowhead balance guide in Chinese?

jaunty blaze
#

No

wet mountain
#

Every spec is always viable. Might not be very competitive or in demand.

dusty bluff
#

or even viable

round field
#

anything is viable

#

you can clear most content eventually with a player down

#

so it doesnt matter

craggy burrow
#

Some has to be on bench so others can play, that's also means viable i guess

verbal nexus
amber wraith
#

does anyone know if there are any resource bars that add astral power of a spell while you are casting it to text, closest i've found is twintops but i only see an option for overlay not text

potent cargo
#

assuming you are saying

#

you want the astral number to be predictive based on cast finishing

#

i cant remember who but it might be being worked on

amber wraith
#

yeah predictive based on cast finishing, do you know if it's being worked on as part of an existing addon or a separate one so i can keep an eye out for it?

potent cargo
#

but i actually dont know if it's even doable

#

bc if i was going to write a way to do it i would assume it requires combat log reading or some shit

#

which is protected now

#

@pallid bay idk if you know

amber wraith
#

the $casting variable in twintop seems to be accurate (shows 8 when casting wrath, 10 casting starfire etc) but that only shows the current cast without adding it to astral power you already have, if both variables exist it feels like there should be a way to add them but idk if there's some weird api restriction that is making it hard

pallid bay
#

you cant

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your astral power is secret

#

can display your AP value, but not do any calculations on it

potent cargo
#

glyph_overlay.exe will solve this problem

amber wraith
#

makes sense, appreciate the answer

pallid bay
#

closest we can get is basically:
showing how much AP current cast will generate
display the prediction on the bar

potent cargo
#

can you put lines on asp bar still?

#

if you could render lines ig you could mix the predict + lines to visually see that you're about to go over a threshold point

jolly lake
#

wow just saw the patch notes and woo it feels good to see that big 20% buff lol

amber wraith
#

yeah you can still add lines, twintop has threshold lines for 1 2 and 3x starsurge, that plus what oi showed is closest we can get i suppose

round field
#

need oiui asap

amber wraith
vital swift
potent cargo
#

I'll sell it to you for $5

spice roost
#

u have tro sub to his patreon 500$\

#

'damn 5 is a steal better get on that

south egret
#

So around 17% buff, is that overall. How much is ST buff and how much is aoe?

round field
#

its about 7% aoe and 10% aoe

#

So when you add it up its 17

south egret
#

Okej cool, thanks!

round field
#

youre welcome

spice roost
#

ha

dim solar
round field
spice roost
round field
delicate perch
#

that's my worst nightmare

round field
delicate perch
#

I am here to spread misery and hate

round field
#

no thats my job

#

fuck off

hollow mist
delicate perch
spice roost
#

i think its comical the fotm rerollers absolutely got the rug pulled from under them like unholy dk ectect

delicate perch
#

you'd have be pretty low iq to think the changes weren't happening

spice roost
#

aya i agree

delicate perch
#

absolute curve ball for the boomy buff numbers though

spice roost
#

statement still stands

jaunty blaze
#

Unholy crying like they still aren't first

delicate perch
jaunty blaze
#

😭

tulip snow
#

I had a lock ready to go (mostly cause I did everything lmfao) I knew buffs would come but also wasn't sure how big

delicate perch
#

starting a gofundme for them rn

tulip snow
#

🤝

potent cargo
#

think lock is stil good

delicate perch
#

I leveled 0 alts

potent cargo
#

but its not gapping

delicate perch
tulip snow
#

lock is fun, but like, boomie is where the heart is

spice roost
#

i dont think i can remember a spec recieveing a 20% aura

tulip snow
#

told my raid leader that I'd probably still play boomie unless it was somehow abysmal

delicate perch
spice roost
#

lmao

pallid bay
#

ill take a look at it

pallid bay
#

its a homecook so basically nowhere

#

you need m33kauras

#

which is a WA fork

#

and the AP bar is my own addon

cobalt bluff
manic narwhal
#

did anyone sim balance druid with new buffs?

jaunty blaze
#

Noone for sure

vital swift
#

yes see pin

pallid bay
potent cargo
#

oi u just need to charge

#

fuck it dawg

#

or i will sell it and give u a kickback, lets say 3%

jaunty blaze
#

Collect the bag Stonks

tulip snow
#

I also saw some forks of WAs going around for midnight

#

idk if they have a weird pride thing going on, but I swear some of the addons that have come out have accomplished pretty close to what WAs could do

pallid bay
lusty orchid
#

ST and AoE

#

How much buff?

#

17% overall?

jaunty blaze
#

Refer to the pins

lusty orchid
#

yes but i think the buff on ST was greater than AoE

tulip snow
pallid bay
#

we do need more bag addons

#

😭

#

idk i'll think of some way to share this shit if people really want it

jaunty blaze
#

would be nice Okayge

spice roost
#

i want a lazy addon that tells me i need to get into eclipse when im out of it lmfao

tulip snow
misty forge
#

We're so back

fathom blade
#

I assume we do not consume cosmos with starfall now on st ?

potent cargo
#

mmmmm

fathom blade
#

And maybe remove meteorites ?

vale pebble
#

and u prob still fall st cause of weaver proc chance

#

nothing ever changes

jaunty blaze
#

more procs more gooder

fathom blade
jaunty blaze
#

but thats pure st build isnt it

cedar forge
#

it is

jaunty blaze
#

meteorites is kinda poo for multitarget

#

and many fights have adds

vale pebble
#

very suspect

fathom blade
jaunty blaze
#

i think gamz updates it shortly before raid release

#

if there is any change

fathom blade
#

Non convoke build was simming higher for me anyway

vale pebble
fathom blade
vale pebble
#

its something like this

#

but yea all of these funny talents

#

are all so dogshit

#

it doesnt really matter what u pick

#

theres like 6 talents that are between 0.01 of eachother

#

but u for sure click goldrin on st

vale pebble
jaunty blaze
#

awoo

vale pebble
#

where u click fall as a spender

#

u for sure have space to use this on dragons or something

#

where u just dont click goldrin maybe

#

u can argue depends

potent cargo
#

based on the current sim

fathom blade
jaunty blaze
#

god forbid an mf has to click a different button

potent cargo
#

idk its good more dopamine

vale pebble
#

its fine how it plays

#

rn

jaunty blaze
#

procs always funny

deft granite
#

What u feel avout FoE and trees? isnt it clonky

jaunty blaze
#

why

vale pebble
#

it is a bit yea

#

just get used to it

potent cargo
#

dont think our st build is gonna use foe but fuck knows

vale pebble
#

it is rn

jaunty blaze
#

the timings are a bit shitty imo but otherwise

vale pebble
#

and it just gets better with adds

potent cargo
#

the 105k one?

vale pebble
#

yea

#

i need to run some talent sims myself

potent cargo
#

ah yer I was just looking at a 104k since it was the only one that had an ability list to reference

vale pebble
#

but u play foe i thinks in raid

potent cargo
#

at least fwiw

vale pebble
#

no reason to think about pure st stuff

potent cargo
#

foe and trees

#

gives u some nice asp gen for when it matters

#

that's some good dopamine

vale pebble
potent cargo
#

we love big dmg windows

vale pebble
#

if u scroll a bit

fathom blade
#

Convoke is first now, i simmed myslef

#

idk sad

#

was hoping for a incran tier

jaunty blaze
#

i mean you can play incarn for sure

potent cargo
#

this is incarn eg ahead

#

shits always subject to change and beign realistic

vale pebble
#

the sims do favor incarn

potent cargo
#

if the gap isn't that much you just play whats best for fight i spose

vale pebble
#

cause they arent doing any pooling

#

so u favor more eclipse uptime

potent cargo
#

might be a phase you really want to blast, certain timings etc

jaunty blaze
#

maybe salhadaar dmg amp convoke could be better idk

vale pebble
#

so in a realistic scenario convoke is more ahead

jaunty blaze
#

something like that

vale pebble
#

but the longer a fight is the better incarn becomes for the same reason

potent cargo
#

honestly I would probably just end up playing convoke anyway

jaunty blaze
#

a brother needs time to scratch his nose

vale pebble
#

the shorter a fight is less eclipse uptime you need so convoke is better

potent cargo
#

think there's practical benefits of having ur damage go out frontloaded in a way

#

get mechanic in the ope suddenly your cd is binned

#

🙂

vale pebble
#

no mechanics really force u to do anything like that

#

and incarn if uve looked at a sim

fathom blade
vale pebble
#

just spams spenders for like 10 globals straight

potent cargo
#

7 dps pogg

vale pebble
#

actually kinda crazy

potent cargo
#

well tuned!!

vale pebble
#

that this is balanced st to this extent

#

obv convoke has 0 aoe scaling

uncut bone
#

is this with the buffs?