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bolt dam, a lot of the time ur not actually going to play NB so u need to build asp
you're using ca/incarn with trees
when did i say that
grr
He asked about why specifically
Foe with eclipse > foe without eclipse
More damage free
(And foe is likely more of a bad press in CA than before)
Well yeah but you hit the trees before the ca
ye
Eclipsed tree melee 
tbh the APL right now just doesnt give a shit about when it uses trees
after the opener it is truly just sending it off vibes
Silly apl
i tried to add in just a small line to prevent it from overcapping with the 20 AP from treants
0.1% loss
Cant learn it anyth8ng
Probably gamz
smh gamz
my treant condition was beautiful...
then chancel said "all this is useless"
now its a vibe press..

Vibe casting honestly sounds goated tho
we also use it for asp
cuz we at 0 sometimes
cuz ur pressing a bunch of surges
u used all ur ap on the first eclipse with the buffed surges
so u need to press before then to have ap for the surges on ca
fwiw we did that with like 4 clases now

chancel is a theorycrafter too ?
my own arcane inital apl we deleted half it and gained
Lol I saw it
the mage autists
Chancel lives in every class discord so they've been assimilated
hes like some rat that sits in a gas station at night bored out of his mind type of tc
mmhm mmhm
bro just called me a rat

ahahaha xD
Is he wrong
Dunno what other classes or doing with the same stuff x)
other specs don't matter
stay blissfully unaware
Guardian is annihilating you guys actually
I love logging into my druid and doing 30% less dmg
maybe u right, better for mental health xD
im a lil out the loop is the boomy APL usable yet?
what u guys think is gaining 10% haste in incarn better than getting 10% dmg to SF and wrath in the hero tree talent node (kotg hero tree)
in both raid and m+ sitautions
doesnt matter what we think follow sims 
i'm left behind on sims , has anything changed from TWW s3 sims?
what's the apl?
.
action priority list .. the thing that tells the sim what abilities to use
have you tried putting damage in the apl
These winds are hitting harder then balance rn stg
not sure what to make of it
the apl is written out in the guide in a more readable fashion
but the apl is just how u tell it to cast spells
i guess it wasnt clear to me what your question was aiming at
later
no its 11pm
wrong
cant wait to wake up to my glorious 3% buff
there will be patch notes but who knows when
sad to inform you they dont work on EU East hours
do they even work at all
I dont think the balance team has been working this expac
like at all
that i cant tell
they are cooking something up for sure
we're waiting for the main course and they keep putting breadsticks on the table man
meanwhile the kitchen is empty
are they free?
no
i like breadsticks
we're paying for the breadsticks
yo wtf
shit
Blizz closes in 2 hours so we will seeeee
thats it?
thats it
unlucky
§if we dont get patch notes between now and 2 hours
I'll come knocking

i hope we do get buffed and we arent useless in raid
STFU

Guess no tuning today unlucky
Still have about an hour and a half
Its 3:18 blizztime
pm
thanks chancel
dn


I dont think that's real
Oh my bad
what do you mean dn
Context man
Deez nuts hehehehe
Imagine getting got
Gotta get yours more than you get got tho

pengu the goat
If ur playing EC no
Not if you play ec
oke at level 81 it is?
either change hero talent to keeper of the grove
or if youre already using that then find something to press Wrath on
i got a discussion with someone who is level 81 and using the EC one but his solar eclipse changes
You cant enter solar eclipse with ec
Or I guess it's possible they don't have lunar calling skilled yet
If they can
EC stands for Elunes Chosen Hero tree in case you didn’t know
bold of you to assume wrx owners can read 
like subaru wrx?
yeah
yeah you can just not take the talent
at 81 you still have 2 open hero talent slots
we still have an hour and 23 minutes
how we looking boss?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rWAgn74AN1R7viytyP6Xnj
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wdYj3DF3wsU9rGSqsYnGnT
how much can I trust sim at the moment ? Cause I don't understand all the result 🥲
i had the single button assist on my bars.. would that also make the rest slow?
what exactly is it you dont understand about the results
437 dps difference is not something to even think about
oh youre expecting the number to be identical every time?
it's a sim not a calculation
In the second one I ask few different craft like mait/hast /vers hate etc
in the first, (highest one) just ask hast mait for crafting


Are you limited by iterations or why arent you doing all of this in 1 sim?
-0,82 % yes guess u right I was looking at the pourcentage at the bottom and was omg it's huge but not, must be too late for to work on sim x)

ya differences of the stats of a crafting slot is going to be pretty small as long as it has mastery as one of the stats
no no i'm limited at 16million 51700 it's the all in one
did you make this up
no claude did
sure u right... thanks

i told him to think hard and make sure to tell me exactly what blizz would do
liar
I would believe this to be a Blizzard production
ya it was 50/50
skill issue
oof
not even that bad just needs a 30% aura buff attached to it
just a small footnote
*(all these changes are 3000% more effective while in moonkin form)
yes

is KOTG better for m+ or elunes?
is KOTG better for m+ or elunes?
KOTG for lower keys. EC for higher keys. Generally if mobs stay alive long enough EC will be betta
the dreamgrove guide doesnt even tell you what talent build is better lol so i had to ask
is it weird that 15g creatine is the bad part of this sentence?
gotchaaaa
creatine is thought to increase brain function
Chancel. Love with help your brain grown
yer supposedly higher doses of creatine above the sorta standard 5mg allegedly help with brain function n shit
Creatine makes u hold more water and water is wat ur brain craves
dope
but u gotta pound water
im gunna get brain jacked
15g creatine is just fine
something gamers arent good at
how many zero sugar monsters can I sub that water for
The good cholesterol is good for your brain believe it or not
idk but ive already ripped two
this game is so fkn good for learning the raid encounters bro
about to have my first
the guy who made it is a fkn beast
wtf is this
What’s the addon?
there is no evidence that 15g is more beneficial than 3-5, and is more likely to be more harmful than helpful
Is it free? Because if it’s free it’s me type shit
ya its free
Type shit type shit
crazy
we've come a long way from pineapples
i miss pineapples
it has more system req than wow
only uses 1.5gb ram atm and like 10% of my cpu (discord is using 20% of my cpu somehow)
its a lil spiky on cpu but doesnt seem to be an issue
idek what wows min specs are but christ they must be doing it based on 0 shadows all low settings
are they going to buff dung xp for levelling
idk if I should level my pal now or wait
no

do delves you degen
I've only done the campaign delve + a world tour once for quests
do they even give xp outside of the quest/
You guys remember the pineapple mini game they did of Castle Nathria 😂
they did that for every tier since CN
the soundtracks of the spider raid pineapple minigame were insane
i saw this
seemed like a bit of a meme
As always, we’ve closely monitored data on class performance as well as player feedback. With all of that in mind, we’ve developed the following adjustments to classes that are over- and under-performing in group content and PvP. These changes will go into effect with scheduled weekly maintenance in each region. Classes Druid Restoration ...


nt bud

Not at all
WHEN?
70m
Bro what is this shit
Lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


22 minutes until it ain't happening
It ain’t happening
Hey folks! I've been playing balance in the midnight so far, and it feels extremely squishy, with only 1 defensive cooldown, it wasn't like that previously. Anyone else feels the same way or am i doing something wrong?
Go bear form
it has more than 1
And it was like that previously
the trick is if they hit send at 4:59 pm, they dont have to monitor the feedback
I'm not trying to be condescending but
We're doing m0s
If you need more than bark then someone is doing something wrong
Either you, the tank, the healer etc
I'm not talking about dungeons or anything, open world is what I'm having problems with
like mobs hit very hard and just bark can't keep up
theres a worldbuff? what is this? clasisc?
Ah right
Sorry
Then you're right
Stop stealing my response from this morning
I assumed you were talking about dungeons because in open world people just play bear

well, I don't want to play a tank
or a melee
i haven't had any issues in open world and i do mega pulls
just kite
don't stand still and cast
use typhoon and vortex smart
sure, i was being slightly facetious (even though bear does more dps than boomie)
but yeah if you dont want to die then you need to play a lot with your utility
i wasnt here for that but thats funny
and make sure to blast
I feel like that wasn't the case before like, ever
if you're doing a quest and need to interact with an item but a mob is standing on the item, walk up to the mob so he starts chasing you, then press entangling root and go loot the thing while it stands there
That was almost always the case week 1 of the expansion
As far as I can remember
moonkin unironically better when you pull like 10 targets and run in circles spamming dots and starfall and cooldowns
It’s jover time to reroll and shut down the discord
than when you pull like 2 targets and let them hit you
whoa hold on
using ur cc abilities?
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
i do that every time lmao
then i meld and fly away
fuck fighting 1 lone mob on an item
I just swap bear
what happens when u need 10 of those items
why use many button when 2 do trick
you mass pull 10 mobs
hey grok how do you say skill issue without being rude
knock them away and just run a direction while spamming moonfire and tab target and sending treants+eclipse/incarn cooldowns and spam starfall
moonkin so good for open world
if you ever close to dying then just swap bear form while mobs tick down
so it begins
also a skill issue
rather join pumper groups
even if they are veriifed dog

still have no idea why m0s arent lfdable
he would argue he is the victim in this case
where the fuck are my patch notes, blizzard
Tunings inc

are we back
wtf rogues are busted
what a rogue?
spin up the warlock buddy
@sour rampart where are the patch notes buddy
Grok what do i craft
lost to tank on derelict duo, we are so back
I haven't lost to the tank in m0s maybe it's a kekkers issue (I am the tank)
@gilded gyro GIVE THE NOTES
meanwhile the rogue is doing 70k every pull
only 70k?
was doing m0s with guild rogue
doing roughly the same dmg
then he went "oh lol wrong spec"
sub seems nuts
the next 4 dungeons he did double my dmg (literally)
only rogue i've seen but
I press 2 buttons on lock and do 140k dps aoe
I do more than 70k most pulls as bear
its unreal
im pumping
why am i being asked for notes
boomy is 2nd class citizen
yellow square
🟨
Why do we need to ask!?
its preseason which means ping larias for nos reason season
@sour rampart
20m

notes pls
can we ban blizzard from posting announcements that arent patch notes
which spec did he chnge to
yeah sub is..
you know these arent announcements but just blue posts right
okay phew
wowhead turns them into announcements
i just pugged into a group with a sub
My guid bet on Tuesday before US reset for the patch 😂😭
HOLY SHIT
im not irish
HOLY SHIT
how could I do potats
We back
cant wait to see arms
no way did i post travolta and post came up
we are so back
I'll read it when I get it
wowza
Here we gooooo
all damage by 20% lmao
LMAO
anyone else having success mogging 2h? it just keeps using some random dw I've never seen but on the character pane it's correct
20% LMFAOOOO
ive never seen a larger aura buff in my life
how are balance druids faring in midnight? thinking of picking it up again after a few years away.
really, what kind of buff?
game is good again
wait..balance got a bigger aura than arms
@lucid olive did you snitch?
blizzard are drunk
those buffs looking good!
they knew before hand
no they figured it out themselves
ah, it was froyo
smarter than they look..

oh nice. Guess I'll level to 90 and see how it goes
should have known
nah
or the dev in the discord saw you yapping @craggy sonnet ...
i need to do alt preys
because i didnt even know about that until way later
lol as bad as we are we still cant get just buffs
IM DELETIN MY MAGE
20$/1/1!?!?!
ty
@vital hound log back in
I am in disbelief
I've seen some dark times but never did I see such a buff
holy number, what does the math says chiefs?
not even the BFA dark times got such a buff
@drifting nova they buffed lunar calling for u
What am i looking at bruh
120 I sleepp
💀
Seem we can continue to play starweaver with this up ! I kind of like it !
wait
rerolling back to my chicken right now
insane
what makes you say that?
isnt it
2 months and it'll be back to 60 dw
did they typo and write lunar calling as affecting starfall
not even a starfire buff smh
listen, they dont play the game ok
it's tough out there
they dont know what the talents do
the price to pay for 20% aura buff
They up everything so it’s the same with higher numbers, just a guess I’m not saying that it will be like that 🥲
they down starfall
be nice to chatgpt it's doing its best to write patch notes
Which is understandable with a 20% of increase damage
Still a up
When the napkin math??
PL has now been changed like 50 times
poor gamz has to rewrite dreamgrove guide
delete pl bring back stm
I wonder how big the tuning pass after heroic week is gonna be, these were massive
wait 20% seems like a bit big no
wtf, ret is the new gpt daddy
Good work dooming Arctic, you did it bud
dont think this is gonna be enough :\
the fact balance got a greater aura over arms puzzles me

arms whines less
massive boof
20% of 0 is still 0
Can we stop sandbagging now?
Am I no longer impoverished
so sp does like no aoe at all now, or?
they've accepted their fate
number go up
If only there were more tuning patches after this one... oh well
there is one more
its like
35-40% reduction probably
was it that crazy before?
nope
i didnt think so
It was strong, primarily in spread
but not best
while worst ST in game
Now it's like bottom mid ST and bottom mid spread cleave
blizz trying to save healing rain for shamans
😎
so now its ok-ish st and trash spread?
when its buried already
Before it was like
im bricked chat
they nerfed tier set as well? lol
see you next tier
yo moonkin saved am i logging in?
naw mate better luck next tier
i think itll be fine
we need arzfu
these guys are meming they gotta be
when the world needed him most..
@lofty depot i told u the meme would work
How we feeling about these buffs
good work buddy i had faith in you
Are we at least like b+ now
so flat 20% damage buff
nerf to starfall
buff to ST
tier set nerf
conflicted
it's been 13 minutes and no sims? dreamgrove so dead..
thanks tettles
cant believe gamz gets paid all that and still hasnt fixed apl
@wicked shuttle can let your grandma out the cage now, i put the key under the mat..
THE SANDBAGGING WORKED
gamz isnt sleeping tonight to find us 2k more dps trust
its still a 5% buff to starfall
tettles doesnt work here anymore
tettles is a devourer dh now xdd
ahh
@wicked shuttle true?
no wonder they got nerfed

how does the 20% buff work with starfall and starsurge, do we count them as just 28% buff to starsurge and only 6% buff to starfall, or do they get added seperatly, so the values change?
lowk that was the fall back
im memeing just cause he was playing alot of beta on it at the end but hes probably still booming
folded under 0 pressure gg
wdym by still booming?
29.6% buff to SS, 5.3% buff to starfall
the man hasnt boomed in like 3 xpacs
seeing aug nerfs is funny though lmao
appreciate you for doing math for me
still boomkin-ing**
SHEESH
see previous statement
boomy gunna be just fine
also true i sent that b4 seeing other statement. def was a augles and ele rr
Well shadows DOA. Hello new bird flock
we still got 3 more buffs
wheres version 6 of the sheet @lofty depot
someday they will make up there mind about psychic link
no!
I’m surprised they didn’t nerf our DoT damage on AoE but buff lunar strike more
DM
@craggy sonnet u think they just gunna perma lock psychic link between 15 to 60%?
Ya but shadows ST is garbage. The high cleave kind of made up for it. Now idk id rather bring a third tank lol
Feel like a 20% buff across the board is more than being back
yes
Not really?
@sour rampart thx for dropping the notes btw
the feely crafting has spoken and balance is hard back
Eclipe will be reworked into a Roll the Bones mechanic in 12.1 as well
Give them Psychic link as old destro mastery
im late but WOOO we're so BACK
what kinda nerf is the tier set changes tho
they shoulda buffed it by 50% im never going to be able to clear tier 8 delves with balance druid specialization its way too complex and does no damage
real and true
so feral season hmmm
np bud
back to your hunter/shaman
heathen
sorry we arent all pro players some of us casuals want to play the game too
what if we did the delves together tho….
lmao saying that to dwilkz is diabolical hahahahaha
@carmine vigil you need to work on your rotation bro you legit have always done less than other boomkins
he must be new here
@carmine vigil lock in
the aura change and the two set bonus puts shooting stars as x1.68 damage(compared to now) where as the two set now would be x1.5
he cant ignore all of us
gosh @carmine vigil learn boomie
hes too busy kicking ppl on LoL leave him alone
we're so back 😄
Do not speak to dwilkz like that Droneson
without the 2-set nerf, shooting stars would be doing 80% more damage with the two set after buffs
so what are napkins math so far? 25%ish buff?
Does boomie do dmg now ?
41
62
You lying
whats our ST buff and AOE buff?

Yeah no shit I am
there's a bunch of simc stuff to be done to sim changes lik ethis
ppl gotta be patient knowing the % now vs in many hours changes nothing etc
@carmine vigil think that guy can coach you up on lee sin and boomie for a discount?
6 maybe 7
23% ST and 8% AOE. which makes a 31% overall buff(joking)
Bamkin meta with bof??!?
You don't understand, if they don't know NOW they'll parish
I just level Warlock...
noobert...
They really did take a hammer to the tier though now that I've carefully read it
so that 20% aura buff isnt quite as nice
what cost?
dn
Gottemmmm
thats not big tho 
not cool man
no the treeeeees
How we looking?
hpw we ;ppling
Did the fucking moonkins just gaslight blizz into buffing them by 20%? AGAIN?
its not 20%
they misplaced the arms buffs onto chickens
ragebait
Are we still going to use the tier set after the nerfs?
Did you guys hear about the balance Druid buff in the game world of Warcraft: Midnight? It’s a 20% buff to all dmg. It’s a buff to the Druid class talent specialization named Balance. It’s a DPS (damage per second) specialization that was buffed by 20% increased to all its damage dealt. Did you guys hear about it? The buff? The buff to balance Druid in world of Warcraft midnight?
Its like 25 % st
doing over 100k on ST according to Zorthas
Yes...(on their top RNG roll jailer 4 times)
before tier nerfs though
yes
Slip of the wrist
😂
Is it better to use starsurge in aoe instead of starfall now?
fuck no D:
the starfall nerf isnt as bad as u think
Starfall got nerfed and starsurge got buffed
What NERF?
starfall got overall buffed
Starfall does 5% more dmg
with the 20%
They just had to touch the tier
Better to moonfire uj aoe
are we playing balance druid again
Prio over starfire..
Starsurge does 22% more than starfall now

is still a 20% all dmg then 14% less on starfall... is a 6% buff
ignore the furry poster
for starfall dmg
Nah sorry but we are converting to Arms warrior now, balance sadly unplayable
ppl dont read them lines
yk
I dont think they do the math like that
lunar calling will also increase ur starfall a lil on main target
sorry lads, I have bad news for you...
thats supposed to be starfire
it isnt as bad as u think
they nerfed guardian
:eyes
ARE WE BALACK?
the 20% is a buff to the template of the spec, then you see it per spell i believe...

and I know how much you people enjoyed playing bear
Let’s not all jump to conclusions tettles could still make a post saying this is great and we get nerfed after that
the fuck do you mean YOU people /s
isnt the starfall buff like this
Starfall bad got it
So, are we happy about this or nah? I can't tell, too many maymays 
why would anyone be sad about a buff lol
Cause we want more buff
Sad if ec st
We are never happy that’s rule 1 of being a Druid you can always want more
kinda hard to read into those notes tbh
nah was just trolling
We are S tier in raid now
Why didn’t they buff us by 22%
Had me shook

Its looking bright
Because maybe not enough buff, I dunno.
Bright like the fire of a star...
there are 3 more tunings after this
if we are too good now remember to sandbag until the rest of the tuning passes are gone!
we could get more
the sandbagging will continue until buffs improve
No blasting in hc week
Well said
i mean
I'll have my eye on you all
Im not even using CDS
NOTHING, NADA, 毫无卵用
Wrath only in hc week
Sandbaggin ? No. But I will be volunteering for every mechanic in the Entire raid
When are they buffing catweaving as balance
Being very usefull and helping the team

My raid leader is asking me to take maim just to make sure prio mobs in raid get stunned
Hope they buff catweaving for boomy soon
So when is the green name person gonna post the percent
Thats hella smart
It’s 32.1% buff
⁉️
3%
there u go
should i pin it
thats not actually how that % works
Yes
math hard bro
its at least 6 or 7 % buff
pin it g
Congrats guys, we did it again
Be mid preseason, get buffed like crazy right before the m+ season starts
well well well
what are the napkin mathers saying
🤝
hello guys
status check
22%
xDDD
are we slow mode yet
my napkin says the number went up
thank tettles
Does anyone have an Australian language addon for balance Druid spells I’m struggling to understand it
Chatgpt said 28%
That’s exactly what I’m talking about
I'm calling it from 86k to just beating 100k
what does grok think about the math
😂
@lofty depot

95k dps please buff more
Contacting my agents
god i hate ai



Gamz about to drop some dong
Pre 107k
We got a 20% buff wtf
With these buffs, I can finally use OBR

oof, imagine not wanting to be a chicken
GUYS
how will they even flap
no darkmode + you are that bored you actually used ai to give you wrong info
HUUUUDDDEEE
insane work bud
this is awesome. good job
Nerfing resto and guardian. Surely mini game meta inc
didnt even realize blue post tuning went out
fuck minigame
hopefully we suck so much on m+ that we catch another buff and we ball in raid
praise bamkin

Mutumbo such an old meme
True and based
I only mini game to get loot. Raiding is truly endgame
"late"
You should be full m10+ gear end of week 1
who on the dev team loves balance druid 😭😭
They only buffed us because they found out a mage was helping with our APL
I love gacha mechanics
Why wouldnt i be in full Hero Track gear end of week one?
Right @dull dust
Great ai says boomy dead
I didn't like AI because of the RAM issue, and now I really don't like it.
@pseudo grove m+ DELAYED?
its def not an aoe nerf
If you have the AI logs to look at so it under what the % makeup of the overall damage was I wonder if it could actually be accurate
im going to forever change the trajectory of your life
shotout zorthas
really happy we are insanely OP now
🍅
I am inherently against AI because I know it drinks a lot of water from all those data centers, but then I see a cat playing Smells Like Teen Spirits on drums and I get conflicted..
it has its uses for sure
ai is revolutionary bro its takin over the world
AI is lame
ai is the coolest thing ever
no, that is you
you got a 9mm cannon to make this happen or
AI is lame but there’s this one gif of a dog holding two guns and doing a little victory dance so
😊
ai is great
no do you have one i can borrow
i do all my research on chinese research chemicals with the assistance of grok
Grok how fked am i
U mean peptides?
🤓
how are we looking after the nerf?
The council is discussing please wait
lol
alright, if we all pick kyrian it will be fine
Unironically the only use of AI I have really enjoyed in real sense is the AI voices. Ive seen some cool mods that us AI generated voicelines so older games can do stuff like add in characters where they werent and have voicelines which is cool. Also there are some quite enoyable humour based AI voiced human made content on youtube (a mass effect channel called PrimeRadiancy for example)
tier set nerfed meaning we get 4p last
You literally will get tierset though
@wicked shuttle is the buff gonna be good enough?
tettles is making a vid right now 100%
its a real shame i chose 2026 to get into writing, right as AI is getting smart enough to take my job
oh he's streaming
@wicked shuttle is the buff gonna be good enough?
@wicked shuttle is the buff gonna be good enough?










