balance

[woven flint]

send on cd

[round field]

zandalari bear looks like a fucking inbred turtle lmao

[wooden dew]

I’m spikemaxxing

[woven flint]

think i got a 97 parse with it but that doesnt say anything

[wooden dew]

Ankylosaur is top 2 dinosaur

[woven flint]

was cringe before end of p1 you had to send a second time

[eager raft]

Think that’s better than I ever had as boomy that tier

[round field]

idk i played cat that tier

boomkin lowkey stinked

[lucid olive]

gnarlroot

[woven flint]

while every1 was stopping dps you were sending haha

[eager raft]

I played hunter that tier

Only played boomy in farted

[woven flint]

smart

[round field]

i tried playing boomie

i got

[wooden dew]

Are we

[round field]

astro c

from last 2 bosses

[wooden dew]

The gaslight spec

[round field]

like holy shit

[round field]

no thats warlock methinks

[lucid olive]

There is 2 people in this world , people who copy other people and than their is people like me who make our own builds and be succesfull with it. I was the first balance druid to play orbital strike convoke on tindral and be succesfull with a new build no1 else thought off. They say just play feral but i usually do a lot more than those feral druids who think thats better, instead of looking at whats supposed to be better you have to look at your own strength

[wooden dew]

I thought lock was legit

[round field]

lock is turbo fake

known sandbaggers

[woven flint]

man you had to dig deep for that didnt you

[round field]

and crybabies

[eager raft]

demo locks still haven’t released their max gear sim

[wooden dew]

Like balance druid pads hard snd that damage does have to happen but

[eager raft]

Cuz they genuinely think it will impact their balancing

[lucid olive]

it's in the google doc

[wooden dew]

It’s also… very padding

[woven flint]

damn

[eager raft]

I am playing lock this tier and I fully agree they are the gaslight spec

[woven flint]

guess i have to watch what i am saying from now on

i have been asked to pay spriest

[lucid olive]

been too long since someone posted it.. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UTaAbYKaCy7U8xpWfxbJOq9Ds3pUmIGwj1KAAgyk91I/edit?tab=t.0

[eager raft]

boomy players have always been pretty realistic about the strength of the spec in my experience

[wooden dew]

I just like the aesthetic

[lucid olive]

you just gotta cut through the people who overly doom because they think it's funny

like kekkers

[eager raft]

A little bit too realistic though

Like you guys don’t HAVE to bug abuse on the first day of raid testing

[lucid olive]

Moonkins and getting themselves nerfed

[eager raft]

and get it fixed and nerfed

[wooden dew]

Lmao

Exploit early exploit often

[eager raft]

I think it was a jb tweet about boomys having zero survival skills

[lucid olive]

this is over 3 years ago..

[eager raft]

But I think about it every time I see testing footage of a boomy exploiting some shit and tripling everyone’s dps

[wooden dew]

I mean I gotta shift into bear for that

[lofty depot]

Wasn't a bug

Just showed the nth level of degeneracy

[eager raft]

The furor incident

[lucid olive]

furor wasn't a bug that shit was intended design 😭

[lofty depot]

What was a bug was absorb and healing accounting for the damage

[round field]

furor was working as intended

its just that the spells were very overtuned

[eager raft]

intended is a strong word

[lofty depot]

What also wasn't a bug was cancelform to get haste the casting back in

It gotta nerd that too

[eager raft]

They threw a dart at the dartboard

[lucid olive]

the Manaforge tier set was bugged, but the bug was a dmg loss and not other way around

[deft nimbus]

@lucid olive are we in position to recieve buffs next week? How do you think we will fare the first couple weeks of raid dps?

[round field]

the second they hotfixed it on the ptr you couldnt even tell the difference

mid pull

[lofty depot]

Tier set nerf, lock that in

[eager raft]

it’s always a guessing game with blizzard on who will get buffed and nerfed but boomy prob needs a buff

[lofty depot]

Buffs coming sure.... But not enough usually

[round field]

well it was working as it was designed to work

just that the design was sus

[eager raft]

I unlike to see some of the tier set strength shifted into being spec power

[kindred token]

Yes please

[lofty depot]

Ask again!!!

[lucid olive]

No!!

[woven flint]

i somehow see a nerf inc so ppl stop asking for buffs 👍

[lucid olive]

ok i asked again...

[deft nimbus]

The question was a bit more nuanced than that

[lofty depot]

FUCK THIS BALL

[lucid olive]

the 8ball got it correct

"can not predict now"

and "ask again later"

[lofty depot]

First week if they dont nerf the tierset u will be doing 10-15% less than everyone just natty

[lucid olive]

you'll be doing that anyway unless they buff other stuff

[lofty depot]

No o, I'm gooder than everyone I said "u" meaning him

Mmhm mmhm

[sudden flame]

I mean it should be pretty obvious that boomie is gonna get some sort of buff

[lofty depot]

Yea I mean feral sims 20k higher

And that's unjust

[eager raft]

You’d think so right

[vale pebble]

yea saying that is funny

[vale pebble]

yea but who remembers

ka sheet

[wooden dew]

Isn’t mage the king of this

[lucid olive]

think every spec is guilty of that to some extent

it's just a side-effect of providing consistent feedback

[vale pebble]

not warlock

especially no warlock

[lucid olive]

yeah they don't give feedback..

[sudden flame]

I thought boomies only sandbag?

[wooden dew]

But which spec’s autism is most powerful

[lucid olive]

warlocks don't need to theorycraft

they're strong anyway

[vale pebble]

mage

u can argue rogue maybe but i dont frequent that place

[lucid olive]

mage autism probably more powerful just out of pure number of players

[wooden dew]

Nah

If that was the big driving factor

Ret paladin would be more autistic

Although…

They did have that insane crashout

In their discord

Ret paladin, that is

[lucid olive]

guess I mean number of players who contribute and participate in theorycrafting for the spec

[wooden dew]

Oh yeah

[vale pebble]

yea i also meant that

[wooden dew]

The special interest part

[royal zenith]

mhmm

is that really true

[wooden dew]

Not the social meltdown and collapse

[royal zenith]

or is just 1 or 2 extra people

[wooden dew]

1-2 is

i bet

In most cases doubling or tripling the contributr count

[royal zenith]

cause I think this is more a Max yap about how 'good' mages are at theorycrafting

[wooden dew]

Going to 2 or 3 from 2 lol

[royal zenith]

and people believe that shit

[lucid olive]

if mage is just 2 theorycrafters then they're already triple our number

[royal zenith]

gobble it up

[wooden dew]

I fucking hate streamer worship

[vale pebble]

nono is true

[royal zenith]

most of tc gets carried by a few people anyway...

saeldur 🐐

[wooden dew]

Like why are we taking lifestyle and political advice

From a man who woke up to the smell of a dead rat cooking in the sun

[lucid olive]

no need to crash out this is a wow discord

better to nip it in the bud early before people respond and it's a shouting match..

[wooden dew]

That rat wasn’t even BIS vermin

You live in texas find a skunk…

[vale pebble]

i need the lore on this

[lucid olive]

asmon

[wooden dew]

Asmon

[vale pebble]

oh asmon

[royal zenith]

this is a very odd conversation to follow if you don't know the context

and didn't read up

[vale pebble]

i thought u mean max

[royal zenith]

:' )

[wooden dew]

But it’s I think

[royal zenith]

that would've been so epic

[wooden dew]

A different facet

Of the same poo poo gem

It’s the grassphobic millennial+ version of keeping up with the kardashians

[lofty depot]

ptr 0.5 patch notes before raid patch notes

thats next level rage bait

[wooden dew]

Oh man

They’re just giving out champ gear

Hey “Decimus” is a good guy name right

Like there is zero chance this guy backstabs us later?

[wild dune]

i hope he backstabs us

[wooden dew]

I think his name is void for “trusted friend”

Decor duels? Isn’t this a COD game mode?

[lucid olive]

??????????????

you have to be born after 2000

surely

there's no other explanation why you'd compare it to CoD and not GMOD

[wooden dew]

I was not autistic enough for gmod

[lofty depot]

maybe console player

and not pc player

[wooden dew]

I think I got sucked into LOL during that era tbh

[craggy sonnet]

Druid class is perfect as expected

[wooden dew]

Apparently fire mage as well

[clever vigil]

@lofty depot bald

[wooden dew]

Man why haven’t the rets shut down their discord yet

Their rotation got shittier and I think they fell down the dps rankings

[lofty depot]

UR GONNA GET TITLED REMOVED

[wooden dew]

Isn’t it time to riot

[clever vigil]

:O

[lofty depot]

u didnt earn it

[clever vigil]

is it because I got it on shaman

[lofty depot]

not clue, i thought it was character specfic

[wooden dew]

Why is prevoker catching buffs…

[lucid olive]

are we already crashing out over stuff in 0.5 notes

that shit is 6 weeks from now

and at least 4 more rounds of tuning

[cunning ocean]

im ready to crash out

[lofty depot]

titan forging lock in

[cunning ocean]

dont need no reason

[clever vigil]

gamz my spec didnt get a 70% buff so i WILL be crashing out

[lucid olive]

7 weeks actually probably

[clever vigil]

lock in

time to tweet some dogshit and upset people

[lucid olive]

play moonkin bud

[clever vigil]

please hold

[lucid olive]

i leveled 3 moonkins cause i have passion

what do you have

[clever vigil]

I asked to level 2 druids and got shot in the head

[lucid olive]

the three musketeers..

[wooden dew]

Hey bad news uh

[clever vigil]

theres only like a 60% chance I play something else this tier man thats better than usual

[wooden dew]

ICE is looking for the second and third ones

[clever vigil]

[lucid olive]

good thing i don't live in that bumfuck ahh country..

[lofty depot]

spain?

[lucid olive]

that one too

[wooden dew]

You mean

Thpain

[lucid olive]

what

are you mike tyson

[lofty depot]

thd only plays lock

who is th pain

[lucid olive]

no clue..

[wooden dew]

Castillan spanish has a lisp

[lucid olive]

Spain is also not called Spain in spanish..

[lofty depot]

Espana

[lucid olive]

~

[wooden dew]

You mean

Ethpaña

[lofty depot]

yea i dont have that alt code

[lucid olive]

must be american keyboard

[wooden dew]

0241

[lofty depot]

mmhm mmhm

maybe on mobile

[lucid olive]

its right alt and the one left of Enter on nordic keyboard layout

¨^~

[eager raft]

Bonus roll are back man

[lofty depot]

and we voidforging

instead of titanforging

hehe

[royal zenith]

Imagine being happy about bonus rolls

[eager raft]

Imagine not being happy about bonus rolls

[royal zenith]

Halfway the tier you finally get to roll on your epic trinket

Woooohoooo

Super value

[eager raft]

[lofty depot]

He clearly didn't play bfa

"heres your gold" for 6 weeks in a row

[royal zenith]

Placebo

[eager raft]

How is never getting it better?

[royal zenith]

You will always get it

[lofty depot]

@clever vigil why the fuck is that the picture

https://x.com/i/status/2032132001562779926

adept (@adeptxo)

moonkin players don’t even ask for buffs anymore they just look at you like this

X · Mar 12, 2026, 4:29 PM

[royal zenith]

Cause dinar

And/or clearing raid

[eager raft]

ah guy who thinks dinar is a good system thinks bonus rolls is a bad system

[clever vigil]

bc thats the meme

[eager raft]

Definitely a person to be taken seriously

[royal zenith]

Thats your conclusion

All of it is shit

(You just need enough gear to clear boss)

[eager raft]

You’d be surprised to learn that the amount of gear needed to kill a boss is different for different players!

[royal zenith]

Hey but at least

Your friends will play for a longer period of time

Cause gambling for items

Locked in prison wooo

[eager raft]

Crazy that some ppl enjoy playing the game and aren’t just forcing themself to

[royal zenith]

[eager raft]

I don’t want to argue any more deux you win

[royal zenith]

If you enjoy playing, you dont care about bonus-rolls

Thoughts?

[eager raft]

it’s a dopamine increase

🙂

[royal zenith]

Correct

Aka you dont actually like playing

Just like dopamine

[eager raft]

Ah I don’t actually like the game I just like the way it makes me feel

[royal zenith]

And force your friends to feed your dopamine addiction

[eager raft]

[royal zenith]

Classy respectable

[eager raft]

[royal zenith]

[sudden pawn]

not sure what i just read but fuck warlocks!!

[nimble tangle]

Bonus roll so basically MOP era lucky coin?

[wooden dew]

Gonna be so sick

[sudden pawn]

sorta with a list

[wooden dew]

Getting 44 gold

[sudden pawn]

and u cant roll the same item

so i guess youll just get the item u want eventually

[wooden dew]

Hear me out: dinar should be available at season launch with higher item costs.

Move it to a conquest-like system

[jovial sundial]

Welcome back valor

[wooden dew]

WHICH IS BETTER

[lofty depot]

U mean bfa

[sonic totem]

Is it better to refresh sunfire and moonfire during eclipse in pandemic or refresh early before eclipse so you don't have to do it during?

[lofty depot]

U refresh in pandemic unless ur about to press incarn, in Which case u refresh Sunfire prior to pressing trees

Trees refresh moonfire

[drifting nova]

no fun allowed

[sonic totem]

Perfect thanks

[nimble tangle]

BFA as well? I didn’t play BFA unfortunately, only MOP back in the day

[nimble tangle]

No fun allowed, every week raid grinding

[drifting nova]

bfa rolls were fake

[wooden dew]

45 gold

[lofty depot]

Heres ur gold

[copper gate]

Wtf are these class changes

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-confused-john-travolta-gif-16946746

[nimble tangle]

But also gear loot is not personal

So what’s the point of this new voidforge

[trail heath]

All these meh posts but no buff posts yet

[merry ibex]

I wonder when they'll post that

maybe not till monday

[craggy sonnet]

these are not the balance changes

for next reset

[merry ibex]

it doesnt go live until tuesday but will they post the changes earlier than that?

[craggy sonnet]

usually, yes

[trail heath]

Usually by today or tomorrow

[craggy sonnet]

today or tomorrow

[trail heath]

Jinx

[craggy sonnet]

no u

[merry ibex]

oh you think they do it before the work week ends?

I guess that makes sense, I was thinking they'd do it monday

[trail heath]

Prob at exactly the end of work day Friday so they can skirt out of the office before the comments

[lucid olive]

probably tonight or tomorrow

[lofty depot]

The classic Friday at 5pm when I'm at the bar

[restive jolt]

means u can have a pint and look at patchnotes

[spice roost]

i just wanna play incarn in raid man

[lofty depot]

Then people ask me to do math

[lofty depot]

U will

Locken

[spice roost]

awesome

[trail heath]

What’s wrong with drunk bar napkin math?

[spice roost]

@lofty depotdoes it look that way on every boss atm

[lofty depot]

Uhhh salad bar and belo birb guy could be convoke

Amp timings and stuff

[spice roost]

arent those 1min timings

[lofty depot]

1m convoke go br

[spice roost]

ya

[leaden birch]

so when calamitous is not the story for shadowguard, any other good delves to slam?

[round field]

yes bro

log off

[stone lance]

4th Spark next week, right?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[kindred token]

I love your names

[eager raft]

The one in the bottom right of harandar is fairly decent on some story variants

Def not calamitous level but prob better than dungeon spam

[sharp valve]

Do we have any Control of the Dream addon to replace that WA used to reset it? or is it fixed?

[drifting nova]

just buff dung spam blizz

real simple

[lofty depot]

Was fixed, if u notice it messed up again feel free to @ a goopa so we can report it with u

[drifting nova]

do delves rotate daily or

[rotund stream]

any good UIs out there to make it really stand out when you are in eclipse and not

[lofty depot]

@potent cargo am I spamming feral or boomkin to 1600

[leaden birch]

ty

[lofty depot]

U can track the icon... And one is blue and one is orange

Surely that's stand out

[wooden dew]

Luxthos made a bunch of class weakauras, and now he made a bunch of blizzard cooldown manager profiles

I’ve been using his balance one and it’s decent. Only had to make one small tweak and that was to put frenzied regeneration in the utility CD timer.

Puts all your CDs front and center.

QQ - is there an addon that adds which keybind (if applicable) is mapped to abilities on the cooldown manager?

[maiden pasture]

more passion

[drifting nova]

gonna need to buy another bench for that house

for all those chickens

[versed hawk]

Does 90% Astral power on the wowhead guide mean 90% (108) of the bar or 90 astral power

[lucid olive]

yeah, most of the CDM addons can do this

recommend ayijecdm

[versed hawk]

For when to use eclipse

[lofty depot]

90% of the bar

[versed hawk]

So 108 then

[lucid olive]

90% of the bar cause it was easiest rule to apply to 100/120/140 cap

but also don't take the number as that much gospel

[lofty depot]

The number is kinda irrelevant u don't want to cap, but u want a lot of asp

[lucid olive]

i have to rewrite it a bit, but i need to finish the seasonal pages first..

You basically want to have enough resources for 3 Starsurge casts when you press Eclipse

Whether that is through having AP or having Touch the Cosmos/Starweaver procs

[craggy sonnet]

if you are using luxthos, then you are also using CDM Centered which should have an option to display keybinds on the cdm icons

[lofty depot]

Trick question, shouldn't be using luxthos

[craggy sonnet]

guy said he is using it tho

[lofty depot]

Yea, lots of people do wrong shit all the time

[silk veldt]

if i didnt get a weapon from the m0s either week, is it a good idea to send crafted 2h?

[lofty depot]

How u gonna send 2h without 4rh spark

[craggy sonnet]

vet crests

[silk veldt]

oh i need 4

[craggy sonnet]

but idk what you need the weap for

if you already completed the content for the week

[lofty depot]

Content for next week

Go get a pvp staff

Mmhm mmhm

[craggy sonnet]

next week could already craft with 4 sparks

or clear another round of m0s

with better loot than this week

[slate kite]

while we're at the topic of the guide.. when do i start bother to cast at all when in m0 and two other bursty dps in the group? 😄

more serious tho... is there a difference when to use the eclipse proc (CA or just Eclipse) dependend on the number of mobs around the main target? i'd say fast dying mobs sure theres no reason for a starfall. but lets say you get a group of 10+ does it make sense to get the proc of first or is it just a matter of overcapping? so just get rid of asp.

[silk veldt]

i thought i could make 2h with 3 sparks mb

[lofty depot]

M0s weird cuz ur just pulling for fun

When u get into m0 u can start mapping out where u dump cds

[craggy sonnet]

i dont understand the question at all

[lofty depot]

But the idea is to always have your big CD for the biggest packs

[slate kite]

the last part?

[craggy sonnet]

what proc are we talking about

[slate kite]

the capstone thing

[lofty depot]

Fast dying mobs can still take more damage from a Starfall than a surge

[craggy sonnet]

the capstone thing .. ?

just try rephrasing the question maybe

[silk veldt]

meteor storm in m0s has felt good

[lofty depot]

Rephrase or use actual names of spells

Best thing to do, is never overcap

[spice roost]

what do we spend cosmos and sw procs on in st

[craggy sonnet]

sw procs are not either or

[lofty depot]

Starfall cosmos

[craggy sonnet]

there is an individual proc for each one

[slate kite]

starfire as instant cast in ascendant eclipses

[craggy sonnet]

ohhhhh

you said starfall

thats the confusion

[slate kite]

just gimme a second, wasn't in the client and mix up some talent names 😂

[lofty depot]

U spend asp so u don't cap asp

Then spend Starfire later

[craggy sonnet]

yes .. during ca/incarn, you would always starfire

[slate kite]

alrighty then

[craggy sonnet]

even in st

because it is slightly more dmg and ap

[slate kite]

yea that one i saw in the guide yes

thank you

[spice roost]

oh ya i meant cosmos sry

[craggy sonnet]

otherwise probably press the builder thats corresponds to your current eclipse

[craggy sonnet]

ye, right now looks like you spend them mostly on starfall .. probably with the exception of the 3 empowered spenders via apex in st

[slate kite]

still feels weird with the eclipses on a gcd...guess i need more time to get used to it.

you got any recommendations on addons? for like tracking starlord

[lofty depot]

U just add it to cdm

[slate kite]

the blizzard ui doesn't do it for me

[lofty depot]

Yes it does

[slate kite]

oh

okay 🙁

[craggy sonnet]

you can get any cdm addon that you like if you are not happy with the default cdm setup

cdm centered, ayijecdm, arcui, eqol (big swiss army knife suite, has apparently added support for buff panels in the current beta version)

[slate kite]

ayijecdm looks exactly for what i'm looking for, thanks a bunch 🙂

[nimble tangle]

who can i address some minor issues related to ayijecdm?

or maybe it should be sensei resource bar issue

[sharp valve]

any suggestions for a good Balance UI?

[nimble tangle]

ayijieCDM

[kindred token]

or Gamz

[drifting nova]

idk if I'm dumb or

what even is abundance

[ornate girder]

just an event to farm for cosmetics, or if youre a profession nerd you need to do it for epic profession equipment

[eager raft]

It’s just a world event

[ornate girder]

yea it is an adventurer pinnacle cache

[drifting nova]

but even with the dunduns

[eager raft]

but yeah you are dumb

[drifting nova]

cant do the one that requires dunduns

only the non dundun one

[eager raft]

do you have dunduns

[drifting nova]

yes

most of them from last week

it just doesnt show when interacting with the interface

like it did first time

[ornate girder]

dun duns = more of this currency if i remember correctly

and that currency is for cosmetics and epic profession equipment

[drifting nova]

theres the no dundun one and the dundun one, but even with dunduns the option to start it doesnt show

[ornate girder]

[vital hound]

pre sure it got nerfed

[ornate girder]

what the shrimp

[dense steeple]

Are you in the right place

[craggy sonnet]

it rotates every 6hrs or so

[dense steeple]

What about it got nerfed?

[craggy sonnet]

from zone to zone

[vital hound]

the amount of currency

[craggy sonnet]

only one is empowered or whatever

[vital hound]

all heresay but

[craggy sonnet]

you mean its harder to get to 900?

or

[dense steeple]

Cost or acquisition nerf

[vital hound]

currency in the even that is

yea

v early for sheep

bag doesnt fill super quick anymore

[dense steeple]

I was still getting 900 yesterday, I can go check in abit

[vital hound]

even from treasure ones

[dense steeple]

I am dundun with that event almost entirely so like idc about my sharfs

[vital hound]

still fine if you are to do a big group

[dense steeple]

Oh

[vital hound]

yea same

[dense steeple]

Why would you do it solo

[vital hound]

got the 1m day 1

[dense steeple]

You have all dundun achieves?

[vital hound]

no but idc

got my skinning points

[dense steeple]

I have them all

[vital hound]

[dense steeple]

Only thing left for me to get are the toys

[delicate perch]

log off professions

are you poor?

[vital hound]

ea skinning was op

[unborn marten]

What is the optimal way at to manage starlord? Pop off to 3 stacks right before eclipse or CA?

[craggy sonnet]

it is reset upon entering ecl

so you want to have ap to spend after pressing ecl/ca

[unborn marten]

Ohhh okay thanks

So ecl get three stacks then only spend ap to not cap until ecl is over? I assume use procs but otherwise don’t spend ap

[lofty depot]

Should spend all ur asp yea

Then build a bit enter solar

[unborn marten]

So if I have 40 ap and am in eclipse still starsurge or just wrath?

[jade flume]

Have they buffed us yet

[pseudo merlin]

theyre too busy nerfing arms

[dense steeple]

Clownshoe devs man

[lofty depot]

Yes

[edgy quarry]

I love your mindset !!!

[dense steeple]

He copy pasta that

Hes not an innovator like that

[pseudo merlin]

@Gamz nah but no trolls aside.. you are the only one here that got fingers out of these clowns and you can play boomkin on a decent lvl.. you cant tell me boomkin is bad even if you look at the 95% statistics and bullshit..

[craggy sonnet]

why?

during CDs you want to spend aggressively

[edgy quarry]

ahahahah mannn

[dense steeple]

I have great parses and surivabilty in dungeons and getting invited by groups of ppl with similar io and higher. Great that you assume im trash

[pseudo merlin]

whats ur peak IO? its clear u never played m+, cause class played are not only based in the class itself, it depends on comps also, so if u will get a boomie, u need to be sure u will get enough kicks, also prio target is really meaningful this season, and yeah boomie does not have real prio dmg, but it does have good overall performance

[unborn marten]

But eclipse doesn’t buff starsurge or starfall right? So aren’t you losing the benefit to wrath and starfire if you aren’t casting during eclipse?

[craggy sonnet]

it does

[vital hound]

guy has 65000 messages sent in this discord, and hes prob in so many others. Jesus christ your life is sad. Literally revolves around this video game. Broke boi.

[craggy sonnet]

astral dmg is both nature and arcane dmg

[dense steeple]

Bro, im 3.4k io i get into groups with people who have higher io than me

[pseudo merlin]

So you're your saying you have nothing useful to add and are just trying to "LE EPICLLY OWN A NOOB" fucking reddit dork

[craggy sonnet]

(not that it matters for whats whitelisted to be affected by eclipse but thats the underlying idea)

[unborn marten]

This I did not know. Makes sense now.

[dense steeple]

ah ur the unemployed guy of the boomkin discord huh

[pseudo merlin]

Ye my bad, I should just ignore people who are passive aggressive for literally 0 reason, and hail those guys as heroes, you guys are fucking pathetic lmao

[dense steeple]

Now if only I could go back in time and fix who hurt you.

[pseudo merlin]

I know no amount of posting in this discord will fill the sad hole in your life, but I believe in helping people so please feel free to belittle me so it covers up your misery for a brief time
Im here for you friend

[dense steeple]

You would get a broken jaw. Talking to people like irl

[pseudo merlin]

I have very well defined lines of good and evil and right and wrong and I know some folks act in a gray area at times...a neutral space...and you mostly dance around that space

[inland stump]

is the renown trinket good for us or nah

[dense steeple]

not really no

its your typical start of xpac ilvl boost trash

[inland stump]

gotcha ty

[dense steeple]

clearly intelligence is not a buff you have

alright im done lmao

that was fun

[pseudo merlin]

This server has done nothing but bring me down as a person. Every day I come in here, and all you do is tear me down, insult me, and hurt me with your words. It has done nothing but harm me emotionally, physically, and mentally, and I just can’t take it any longer. This server is so abusive and toxic, it’s crazy. No one even realizes how disgusting all of your behaviors are. Every single time I talk, type, or even interact with anyone in the server, everybody just goes against me and gangs up on me like a pack of wolves, attacking me when I didn’t do anything to deserve these attacks and these hurtful words. I literally just try to discuss talent selection, particularly the KOTG, but nobody ever wants to be in my shoes. Nobody ever tries to sympathize with me and see where I’m coming from. All of you just see me as the enemy and the bad guy that’s trying to ruin the server or something when really I’m just trying to spread positivity. You guys act like I’m some kind of virus or disease, constantly casting me out, making me feel so left out and so alone in this server. It’s driving me insane. I feel mental and like a weirdo just being around all of you because of how you treat me.

yeah same

[dense steeple]

[pseudo merlin]

i almost choked in my food

[loud kettle]

This server has done nothing but bring me down as a person. Every day I come in here, and all you do is tear me down, insult me, and hurt me with your words. It has done nothing but harm me emotionally, physically, and mentally, and I just can’t take it any longer. This server is so abusive and toxic, it’s crazy. No one even realizes how disgusting all of your behaviors are. Every single time I talk, type, or even interact with anyone in the server, everybody just goes against me and gangs up on me like a pack of wolves, attacking me when I didn’t do anything to deserve these attacks and these hurtful words. I literally just try to discuss talent selection, particularly the KOTG, but nobody ever wants to be in my shoes. Nobody ever tries to sympathize with me and see where I’m coming from. All of you just see me as the enemy and the bad guy that’s trying to ruin the server or something when really I’m just trying to spread positivity. You guys act like I’m some kind of virus or disease, constantly casting me out, making me feel so left out and so alone in this server. It’s driving me insane. I feel mental and like a weirdo just being around all of you because of how you treat me.

[pseudo merlin]

wait are bonus rolls coming back??

[cloud citrus]

crazy in the balance tab???

[warm briar]

Yeah but this time guaranteed loot

[pseudo merlin]

HUH

I fking love bonus rolls

[haughty sluice]

is that an old meme?

[pseudo merlin]

copy pasta*

ye

[loud kettle]

the last like 10 messages from ravec/soma are copypastas

[haughty sluice]

but did someone legitemately type that?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[warm briar]

It’s midnight reskin but better of the old system.

And if you get the wrong item you didn’t want, it gets removed from future bonus rolls

[haughty sluice]

omg

[pseudo merlin]

all these things have been legitimately typed by people

[warm briar]

So a win/win

[pseudo merlin]

all of it

[manic cedar]

is there a shadowmeld macro that breaks me from combat and lets me drink / eat?

[pseudo merlin]

I'd assume adding a second line with "/use x" would suffice?

[lofty depot]

lots of people type lots of things
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UTaAbYKaCy7U8xpWfxbJOq9Ds3pUmIGwj1KAAgyk91I/edit?tab=t.0

[haughty sluice]

wow thanks for the read

[pseudo merlin]

its a good one

[craggy sonnet]

this is some good bait tho .. who posted that?

[dense steeple]

every single one was a copy pasta

[pseudo merlin]

Bro shut up. I have no idea who kekkers actually is. But I'm for sure not talking only out of my butt

[dense steeple]

try

#showtooltip
/cast shadowmeld

[haughty sluice]

"I have great parses and surivabilty in dungeons and getting invited by groups of ppl with similar io and higher. Great that you assume im trash" -- omg I'm crying

[craggy sonnet]

💀

[dense steeple]

idk what you expected tbh

[pseudo merlin]

like you dont need a macro for going out of combat, that's just what meld does

but /use item if you dont want an additional keybind

[dense steeple]

i dont think you can macro a consumable like that to it though

[pseudo merlin]

really

[dense steeple]

i could be wrong

[pseudo merlin]

hmm

what about with a sequence

i guess you cant castsequence items?

[dense steeple]

i ahvent tried ever

[pseudo merlin]

yeah cant say that I have either

[dense steeple]

i havent been a night elf since wrath of the lich king

[pseudo merlin]

wait

are you tauren

[lofty depot]

u just meld and drink

[dense steeple]

lol anytime arctic says anything, atleast we know to ignore it

[dense steeple]

nah, troll

[pseudo merlin]

based

wait

[dense steeple]

i have scoliosis

[pseudo merlin]

we got trolls in cata?

[dense steeple]

??

[pseudo merlin]

I thought that was later

[dense steeple]

trolls were a launch race

[pseudo merlin]

talking about troll druids

[dense steeple]

oh idk

[jaunty blaze]

troll druid only was a thing since cata

[versed hawk]

Do you use fury of elune in the place of force of nature in the opener

[dense steeple]

i went night elf -> worgen -> troll

[pseudo merlin]

oh it was actually cata

[lofty depot]

no

[versed hawk]

Then where

[lofty depot]

u use it before trees

[snow elm]

is there no balance changes for this upcoming tuesday?

for balance druids

[lofty depot]

theres no patch notes for this upcoming tuesday

[dense steeple]

isnt there like 0 changes coming tuesday

[lofty depot]

0.. no

[versed hawk]

But trees arent in elunes chosen

[snow elm]

i thought they said they were going to do balance changes for next week and week after that DX

[lofty depot]

imagine playing ec

spit

[versed hawk]

Isn't it bis in m+

At least with current tuning

Wrong person

[jaunty blaze]

m+ isnt even out yet

[versed hawk]

True but im trying to figure out the rotation. Im a shaman main attempting a new class

[lofty depot]

u put foe where the trees are yes

[versed hawk]

Okay thanks

[lofty depot]

but no, its not bis because we dont know which is better until we get to that area and then theres 14 tuning patches between now and when that shit matters

play what u want to play

[versed hawk]

Okay

[lofty depot]

but choosing to play ec means u have mental illness usually

[versed hawk]

Im just trying to figure out both rotations and get a feel so whenever tuning comes out I have idea of what im doing

[lofty depot]

is fine

[versed hawk]

Do you replace wrath in ec opener with starfire?

[lofty depot]

wrath has travel time..... but if ur just casting into combat yes

wrath is apparetnly better outside of eclipse than starfire

[craggy sonnet]

that is very sus btw

is lunation that much worse after the nerfs?

[pseudo merlin]

So we save our veteran crests for bonus coins..

[craggy sonnet]

i think there is a weekly limit

so .. no

[pseudo merlin]

yeah but still veteran crests

not sure if you need 3 mats or just 1 out of 3

[craggy sonnet]

yes .. but at that point you will have plenty of them

[pseudo merlin]

whens it coming

.5?

[craggy sonnet]

yes

and then you will also have to unlock it first presumably

not sure if thats a process over several weeks

[pseudo merlin]

this looks like a massive fucking W anyway

the bit where it crosses obtained items off of the list is bis

though I think it's only obtained through the coin right

[ornate girder]

yeah

[tender elbow]

I just checked what you said; went wowhead, and saw that FoE is being played and not moons :*(

[lofty depot]

moons bad

[tender elbow]

pls blizzard tune this, I want Moons to be stronk

[pseudo merlin]

^

[tender elbow]

I copium that moons become a thing

[pseudo merlin]

yeah so tettles can't read

[ornate girder]

if you coin it, it goes off the loot table. but if you loot it in raid its still on the table is how it works i think

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah that's exactly how it's worded

[ornate girder]

yeee

[pseudo merlin]

Massive W system

cant wait to hear people complain about it

[craggy sonnet]

you will get plenty of moons to drop on AOE if you play OB

[nimble tangle]

Is arms completely dogshit now?

Even more dogshitv

I mean 12.0.5 nerf

[craggy sonnet]

@drifting nova gotta converse with that person about arms i suppose

[pseudo merlin]

wrong discord

[craggy sonnet]

nah, kekkers is here

so absolutely the right discord

[pseudo merlin]

No I mean kekkers is in the wrong discord

He shouldnt be here

[craggy sonnet]

oh

[drifting nova]

arms doesnt even use all 4 apex talents so yes, dogshit tier

[gaunt lantern]

but choosing to play ec balance druid means u have mental illness usually

[lofty depot]

the fuck

[lofty depot]

hello please respond

[lofty depot]

?

[delicate perch]

Why are you minigaming

[craggy sonnet]

dont do it

surely they will change the loot pool

for season launch

instead of having 2 crit/haste and 2 haste/vers necks

[delicate perch]

You’re smarter than this..

[craggy sonnet]

no, i just dont want to engage with BGs

[delicate perch]

Isn’t it just a hero track item

Just craft later or

[craggy sonnet]

yea, neck or ring

later ye

but what about in 4 weeks

[delicate perch]

by then

Probably not even then depending on items and crests

Might not be the bigger upgrade

[keen warren]

I loathe PvP but the neck calls to me

[jaunty blaze]

If you don't have 2 hero rings from m+ by then what are we even doing

[craggy sonnet]

its about neck

[delicate perch]

Does the dungeon pool not have a good neck

[jaunty blaze]

Or neck too

[delicate perch]

Literally have not looked at any loot there

[craggy sonnet]

^

[delicate perch]

Ah I half assumed that was raid

Was like that’s a lotta necks for a raid

[craggy sonnet]

tho, maybe crit haste is decent

[jaunty blaze]

It's not terrible

[craggy sonnet]

if you fill rest of the slots with mastery pieces

[jaunty blaze]

Rather crit haste neck than doing pvp

[craggy sonnet]

true

[potent cargo]

can someone paste the meaningful cliff notes from the blizz stuff plz

wrt boomy or shit that is worth knowing

[delicate perch]

Was there even any bamkin changes in that post

[jaunty blaze]

No

[delicate perch]

I’m beyond tired so maybe I missed it

We’re hitting it live

Login (meet you all at the bench)

[potent cargo]

nice

[jaunty blaze]

The bluepost wasn't the balance patch

It's class changes for 12.0.5. Patch

[delicate perch]

Ya

There’s still hope

(Level an alt)

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

not the reason

cata charge >

[craggy sonnet]

?

can you get it a week earlier?

or

[lofty depot]

can have before last boss so last boss easier

mmhm mmhm

[delicate perch]

Pvps the fastest way ye

[craggy sonnet]

how likely are you to even spend the cata charge week 1

[delicate perch]

Surely you do not do that

[lofty depot]

well the faster u get 4p the faster u get heroic 4p

but u would wait til week 2 til vault, maybe til u recleared

[delicate perch]

Ya waiting is the non toxic play

[lofty depot]

just minmaxing tier acquisition prior to going into march

[craggy sonnet]

yeah

so you get it anyways

so no need to pvp

[lofty depot]

i dont think ur listening

[craggy sonnet]

^?

[pseudo merlin]

bonus roll coins

[delicate perch]

That’s a big buff to boomy actually

We aren’t getting loot

[pseudo merlin]

ye

this is the only way

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

bonus loot, gives a lot of loot

mmhm

[pseudo merlin]

it gives guaranteed loot dumbass

[craggy sonnet]

bonus loot when content over

hmm

[pseudo merlin]

Not if you're bad enough

[craggy sonnet]

true

[delicate perch]

[craggy sonnet]

ples respond

[lofty depot]

u dont get that cata charge before killing march

u get it after

soooo imagine if u got it beforeeeee killing the last boss

[craggy sonnet]

m+

tho

[lofty depot]

im not taking off work on tuesday

[craggy sonnet]

or what rating is required

[lofty depot]

and that requires u to do all those dungeons to 2k

2k

which is like all 11s? or some shit?

usually what happens is u dont get that until end of week cuz it requires hours and hours

when can do pvp for a few hours

[dense steeple]

Imagine considering doing m+ or heroic march for the achieve

When pvp is 1600 and comes out a week sooner

[lofty depot]

clanker aint that guy

while ur not doing any farming either

[dense steeple]

Literally nothing to do except wqs and pvp

[lofty depot]

bored on the weekend

[dense steeple]

2 hour climb tops

[nimble tangle]

So bonus roll will get you gear just from that specific boss you defeat

From boss gear pool for boomie spec

Is that so?

[lofty depot]

ye

[jolly delta]

weakauras at home

[craggy sonnet]

what are we doing

reading parts of the screen?

[jolly delta]

lb cursor wa

[craggy sonnet]

eh?

[keen warren]

I miss the weak aura resource managers more than I thought I would

[jolly delta]

literally obs cropped on my LB

preview open in a new window

always on top with windows powertools

and then a script for the window to follow my cursor

kek

[craggy sonnet]

lol wth

you know that you can attach stuff to your cursor still, yeah?

[jolly delta]

its cursed, ugly and I'll never use it but

[craggy sonnet]

and that the cdm sidechannels currently allow you to do that with tracked buffs as well

[jolly delta]

nope

just CDs

[jolly delta]

huh

i didnt know that

what addon?

[craggy sonnet]

the same process thats used by cdm addons to display buffs in custom positions/groups

[jolly delta]

afaik those are displayed as being offset from the player frame

and they can't be placed arbitrarily on the screen

or can they?

[craggy sonnet]

i believe they can be

[jolly delta]

also the issue is

at least thats the one I found but maybe im just dumb

[craggy sonnet]

you can look at cooldown cursor manager

[jolly delta]

is that edit mode etc seems to be available only not in combat

[jolly delta]

yes thats what I did

[craggy sonnet]

and i think EQOL also should be able to

in beta

which adds buffs to cooldown panels

[jolly delta]

ccm shows just the CDs

I have also EQOL

hmm

let me check

yeah

[craggy sonnet]

legit first screenshot shows lb??

[jolly delta]

huh

[craggy sonnet]

ON THE ADDON PAGE

you are killing me

[jolly delta]

oh wait

bro there are like 10 different "cursor cooldown" addons

I was looking at cursor cooldown reloaded not cursor cooldown manager

[craggy sonnet]

silly

[jolly delta]

someone should tell them to get better names

[craggy sonnet]

but if you already have eqol

can try in the beta release

i think buffs are already out

(i havent checked)

[jolly delta]

nah its fine I have 4000 addons anyways

so much for simplifying my life

wtf was blizzard thinking???

[craggy sonnet]

they didnt push hard enough

and didnt provide good enough default options

wcyd

[normal pilot]

they think they'r good enough to do all this

or rather ion & co think so

[jolly delta]

well not really

like

the point is if they push hard enough

[jolly delta]

I will be literally doing this

and everyone will

[warm atlas]

Why do we still have eclipse? I cant find it in the pinned info

[jolly delta]

wym why

for you to press it

[normal pilot]

hm once again balance is the perfect spec only a single A change in ptr

[jolly delta]

also, let's be clear

it shouldnt be that hard

[craggy sonnet]

now we can bring our big A game

[normal pilot]

yeah but this is the same story since BFA

their management grossly overestimate capabilities and never follows thru properly

and why wouldn' they do anything diff

ppl keep paying for their product they're doing something right

[craggy sonnet]

yea sure .. mostly talking about them leaving that sidechannel open for addons to extract info from the cdm but the default cdm not able to be customized in the same way

[normal pilot]

i think ppl expect too much from blizz, it's a low paying shit location peon company, consider all your coworkers in similar enviorment how much good work do you expect from them

[jolly delta]

also why does my cooldown cursor manager has auto repair now

I have like 15 different addons doing the same thing at this point

[pallid bay]

its the latest

everyone slops together an addon

no vision

[normal pilot]

my auto repair is better than your auto repair

[pallid bay]

include all the things

[glacial steeple]

Which auto repair is your favorite?

[pallid bay]

no WA means i need to include it in my addon

[craggy sonnet]

this addon has really bloated from its early stages

idk why

[lucid olive]

"hey i don't have an addon for this feature, maybe i add it to mine instead"

[craggy sonnet]

they started adding legit everything to it

[jolly delta]

surely theres no autorepair addon

[lucid olive]

i installed buff reminders and it worked like it said it should

updated week after

it had raid frames

[craggy sonnet]

woa woa

[pallid bay]

and people think having less addons is benifical

so having an addon that only handles auto-repair = bad

[jolly delta]

people should not be allowed to code

[craggy sonnet]

there is an addon called BuffReminders and its the goat

[pallid bay]

idk why more people dont just use m33kauras

[potent cargo]

until it saps ur frames when it breaks

one of our priests in azshara tier legit was losing 40fps to a fort reminder

[glossy jungle]

[craggy sonnet]

this is legit so true. have been active in the EQOL discord for a bit and legit all people want is to have their perfectly fine addon be included in EQOL so they can cross it off the list

even though its perfectly fine to have dedicated addons if they are done well and get updated

[pallid bay]

i get it from a config perspective

[potent cargo]

lowercaseg making an appearance this tier mate?

no way ur boomy right

[jolly delta]

i'll be honest I dont use it because I have no idea what changed and what didnt

[pallid bay]

but its not like eqol config is that easy to navigate

[craggy sonnet]

at least you could expect it to not get buried and forgotten in between 100 other features

[jolly delta]

I expect all this CDM bs to not be available in there

but if im wrong lmk

[glossy jungle]

buffs are coming mate. boomy gonna be king dick

[craggy sonnet]

nightmare actually

[pallid bay]

guess this is the issue yea

[craggy sonnet]

cant find stuff a lot of the times and the blizz search is atrocious

[nimble tangle]

When WA dies

[jolly delta]

at least its searchable

[nimble tangle]

Many minions are born

Thanks to Blizz

[craggy sonnet]

well, its searchable with blizz search

and you cant jump to that category you found

[glossy jungle]

perhaps the chef if lock gets blasted

[craggy sonnet]

legit only shows that single option the search matched with

(which is by no means EQOLs fault)

[warm atlas]

So, seriously, why do I have 4 cooldowns worth of eclipse on diff timers now? Can we prune it and go back to legion?

[jolly delta]

You asked once already

And then you ignored me

I don't know what exactly your complaint is

[lofty depot]

grow up

[jolly delta]

(or why I am engaging with you)

[lofty depot]

if u think casting 2 starfires is fun u have the wrong opinion

[glacial steeple]

The trick is to cast 3 starfalls between so you have faster starfires

[warm atlas]

Manually activating eclipse isnt any better.. that is my point

[jolly delta]

Also, does anyone know if there's an issue with blizzard CDM in general? Every time I log in I have to open edit mode for it to show

[jolly delta]

It is better

You might not like it

But it's objectively better

[lofty depot]

its quite literally better

[warm atlas]

On an expansion that focused on pruning and class/ spec improvement... eclipse should have been axed

[jolly delta]

before you had two maintenance GCDs

now you have half a GCD

[lofty depot]

we were already pruned prior to this expansion

if u thought balance needed to be pruned going into midnight....

[craggy sonnet]

think its a fair point that it seems strange to have to button doing the same thing but at slightly different power levels / cooldowns

[potent cargo]

legendary

[warm atlas]

Eclipse should have been deleted. It has been a terrible mechanic since inception and always leads to balance being mediocre single target. Wod didnt work, BFa didnt work.. all these failed iterations. Should have gotten rid of it.

[jolly delta]

class was balanced around 2 buttons of downtime

wcyd

[jolly delta]

sure

yet you are here

[craggy sonnet]

its better than before

[jolly delta]

in the #balance channel

[craggy sonnet]

could still be better than it is now

[jolly delta]

(saying that legion was good)

[lofty depot]

tahts fine.... but if it wasnt deleted and this was the option.. its the better option

[dull dust]

basicly yea

[warm atlas]

Someone with reading comprehension 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

its a rare gift

[jolly delta]

bro stop glazing thats literally not what he said

[glacial steeple]

You guys should practice kissing to deal with all this tension

[craggy sonnet]

or is it and you didnt manage to comprehend it

[pallid bay]

yeah this sucks

[pallid bay]

it does

spec too advanced

[lofty depot]

smh

[normal pilot]

it's an easy fix anyways

just rename eclipse into something else and wow players will drop all complaints

[glacial steeple]

Can we call it "Chicken Power"?

[normal pilot]

sure it would fit the midnight audience

[dull dust]

it di

bro where's our buffs

did it get lost in the mail

[potent cargo]

eclipse is fine its clunky but eh

is what it is

at least w/ apex talents

its free dmg + insta cast

[lofty depot]

tomorrow for sure

[lofty depot]

i thought pvp played with orbit

now they dont?

WHY IS IT STILL IN THE CHOICE NODE

[potent cargo]

dunno tbh

wtf is orbit

30 moonfire tick moon drop thing yeah?

[potent cargo]

or laser beam on incarn thingy

[lofty depot]

WERE TROLILING

[potent cargo]

Yeah idk tbh

[lofty depot]

SMH

im farming honor

[dreamy cove]

is it possible to make AP bar color different with touch proc currently

[potent cargo]

why

[lofty depot]

cata charge next week

[lofty depot]

why not just track the icon......

no i dont think so

[dreamy cove]

I like fewer icons so I used to track stuff with glows etc guess it's not possible now

[lucid olive]

ayijecdm has glow options on procs

as long as its trackable in the default blizzard cdm

[jolly delta]

not what he asked

[lucid olive]

okay sorry

[dreamy cove]

thanks, I'll use that

[jolly delta]

I think the resource bar doesn't have a glow option so it's not possible

[lucid olive]

they dont do anything with the AP bar

ye

i didnt read the AP bar thing

i think TwinTops has the most options in the AP bar

but it cant react to procs like cosmos

[dreamy cove]

what does it do then, show incoming ap?

[lucid olive]

yeah and ticks for starsurge/starfall

and color change for eclipse

[dense steeple]

@Gamz i really dont give a shit what you think, im telling you the truth, and then if you believe it or not, thats up to you ^^

[dull dust]

@Gamz i really dont give a shit what you think, im telling you the truth, and then if you believe it or not, thats up to you ^^

[dreamy cove]

o nice, will take a look at that too
I just hope these addons get maintained after I take time setting it up

[lucid olive]

maybe you can make an addon that isolates the cosmos icon and gives it a proc glow and you just make the icon transparent and make it same width and heigh as the resource bar and anchor it on it lmao

[dreamy cove]

someone else more frustrated(?) will make that and I will yoink it then

[lofty depot]

its for eclipse and incarn

and like last 2 seconds of eclip[se and incarn if u want

[craggy sonnet]

i think it technically could be able to do that

[tardy vortex]

I am trying to learn boomy but the sims are broken, anyone have an idea of what an ilvl 240ish boomy should be doing st?

[lofty depot]

sims arent broken

[dull dust]

[craggy sonnet]

but sims also arent where you'd go to learn your spec

[lucid olive]

you can sim yourself, there are not that many bugs anymore for balance