maybe some simc hotfix or whatever
#balance
lucid olive
nimble tangle
i gotta say vessel is truly ass
imagine you have to run around to collect souls AGAIN
merry ibex
So is it possible to craft 246 gear without a spark just using 80 crests? I saw some people talking about that
jaunty blaze
yes
jaunty blaze
its not very crest efficient but its useful to craft 2 items with embellishments
that is assuming you mostly have 240 items from m0 ofc
lofty depot
imagine you have to run around to collect souls AGAIN
I liked that trinket
lone garden
In the compendium opener, is the starfall there in case we have a free one or we do it anyway cause of meteorites ?
dense steeple
that is assuming you mostly have 240 items from m0 ofc
What if all my gear is 240 from m0s
jaunty blaze
What if all my gear is 240 from m0s
idk youre him i suppose
dense steeple
Still do less dam than a brwm
jaunty blaze
unforch class choice
vital hound
What if all my gear is 240 from m0s
level a mage
dense steeple
level a mage
Ew
loud kettle
they changed crucible to get its special effects in instances
thats in sim now
so numby went up
nimble tangle
they changed crucible to get its special effects in instances
That’s bueno
lofty depot
2 dps doing damage ezpz
pseudo merlin
i am perma glyph of stars
this is the kind of shit I can get behind
But no form glyph is some beta shit
eager raft
this is the kind of shit I can get behind
pseudo merlin
oh yeah thats whats up
cloud citrus
hell yea sparkly tree
pseudo merlin
fake bamkin
lucid olive
ew
dull dust
gamz ed sheeran or charlie puth
eager raft
i pick gamz
eager raft
gamz make good music
kindred token
xD
dull dust
peak wind
boys ands girls do i go with the neck that has haste/crt or mast/vers
lucid olive
boys ands girls do i go with the neck that has haste/crt or mast/vers
If it lands on heads it's haste/crit
Unlucky guess its mast/vers
vernal hare
Do we starfall on 2 target ?
lucid olive
yes
teal sphinx
gamz make good music
u hunter?
eager raft
u hunter?
no demo lock/uh dk
picked both before i knew tuning
cant wait to get double nerfed next week
teal sphinx
peak wind
lucid olive
vers mast
eager raft
<:oof:1110752542507421806>
what you playin? saw you on the other day
teal sphinx
warrior unforc arms
potent cargo
In the compendium opener, is the starfall there in case we have a free one or we...
free
idk who writes compendium
vital hound
its not updated
potent cargo
u all need to learn
vital hound
i dont think
potent cargo
gamz did the same thing in his wowhead one i think
lucid olive
In the compendium opener, is the starfall there in case we have a free one or we...
cause of free one
eager raft
warrior unforc arms
arms SURELY gonna get omegabuffed
lone garden
Thanks
wild dune
arms SURELY gonna get omegabuffed
copiumcat.gif
wheat crown
what hero spec yall running rn?
potent cargo
i wish i cared enough to actually help with guides these days bc i would make it so much more expounded 
eager raft
NEVER play EC
potent cargo
what hero spec yall running rn?
depends on the content boyo
but kotg is fine until m+ comes out for everything
lucid olive
gamz did the same thing in his wowhead one i think
ye but it specifies "If proc" below it
wheat crown
ive been doing EC for everything XD
potent cargo
european and americans cant comprehend
lucid olive
i'll update Compendium before season launch
vital hound
gamz is a fellow austrian
wheat crown
still deciding if i want to boomkin or feral
teal sphinx
arms SURELY gonna get omegabuffed
imma be real sad if it doesnt its rough out there man
potent cargo
still deciding if i want to boomkin or feral
resto
eager raft
i mean it kinda has to right
lucid olive
but until then it's not accurate for anything
potent cargo
arms has to get buffed
but itll be like 10% aura
to get them off the floor and solidly in 4th last
eager raft
which wont be anywhere near enough
potent cargo
behind specs nobody plays
potent cargo
even when you made an entire fkn build around pressing it
should legit just be ms, overpower, exe, and csmash/warbreaker and move on with life
make it so the gameplay loop is around cranking a huge bleed explode with skullsplitter snapshot or some shit
blissful star
It's normal that i sim 50k with boomie? while my udk sims close to 70k
potent cargo
gg e z
yes
we are in the pits
in full gear we will prolly be 40k-50k behind
as of current
kindred token
How is Druid Balance's rotation now?
heavy iris
aren't sims still not accurate
potent cargo
sims might not be 100%
but like
within 5%
we are still shit
there isn't some massive damage increase hidden that just hasn't been found yet
eager raft
no amount of accuracy is making boomy look strong rn
potent cargo
the spec isn't complx enough for that
teal sphinx
which wont be anywhere near enough
it needs a like 15% ST nerf to be worth more than a tank, then like a 10% to be an ok DPS
kindred token
Is there no guide yet until season 1 for now?
potent cargo
kindred token
^ I did
blissful star
Boomie needs like 20% buff
eager raft
and thats the conclusion u came to
potent cargo
royal zenith
I mean..
royal zenith
normally I'd say protect new people but
eager raft
incoming deux contrarion comment
royal zenith
this is pretty interesting
eager raft
oh
kindred token
Yeah, but what are we supposed to play for rotation now?
teal sphinx
incoming deux contrarion comment
eager raft
you surprised me
potent cargo
you go to the wowhead guide
and refer to the rotation section
which is in the pins
potent cargo
or the icy veins up to you
kindred token
dense steeple
boutta go full paper
I almost did on some random dh today and he still thinks he walked away the smartest guy in the room
Some guy asked about crafting a weapon now and if it would be a waste and I told him it would be fine, and dude started going off about "if you craft a weapon now youre a fuckin idiot for wasting crests and fucking yourself over" and after asking him why his only argument was "there is no current content you need the ilvl for"
jolly delta
bring paper back
eager raft
Some guy asked about crafting a weapon now and if it would be a waste and I told...
i saw someone on twitter ripping on a guy about posting he crafted a weapon yesterday
talkin bout "youre wasting crests"
when it costs zero crests
potent cargo
Some guy asked about crafting a weapon now and if it would be a waste and I told...
its smart not to craft but honestly I think 99.9% of playerbase could just craft rn and it will have no material impact anyway
noobs craft dumb shit it'll fix itself in the next 3-4 months
anyone raiding is prolly crafting a weppy
dense steeple
its smart not to craft but honestly I think 99.9% of playerbase could just craft...
Duel wielders who use a crafted weapon as bis anyway can craft completely safely though
potent cargo
ye
dense steeple
Because even if one drops
They still have a second weapon to wear
And this dude just didnt get it
edgy quarry
However we didn't take meteorites in the ST build you putted on wowhead ? Is it still worth it to use starfall on this proc instead of starsurge ?
eager raft
im prob waiting to see if i get myth weap in first m+ vault before i do any spark crafts
potent cargo
However we didn't take meteorites in the ST build you putted on wowhead ? Is it ...
if u starweaver and u get proc for free shit u use starfall
edgy quarry
Does starfall create more proc I guess ??
potent cargo
since it has higher chance to give u starsurge proc
than starsurge gives to starfall
or some shit
i just woke up
dense steeple
When I made the argument that larias put into his guide he called me stupid with a dogshit argument so I called larias in to tell him hus argument was stupid and he should delete the guide 
dense steeple
Larias came in on my side naturally
lucid olive
However we didn't take meteorites in the ST build you putted on wowhead ? Is it ...
yes
lucid olive
Does starfall create more proc I guess ??
yes
edgy quarry
than starsurge gives to starfall
That's what I was thinking but not being sure...
dense steeple
Hes the best because he tanks. Correct
kindred token
Hes the best because he tanks. Correct
He does?
edgy quarry
Hes the best because he tanks. Correct
did'nt see the name ahaha
dense steeple
All the best moonkins tank rn 
edgy quarry
Quite interresting all they did on balance druid in fact !
potent cargo
All the best moonkins tank rn <:rip:703387151169224735>
tru n real
lofty depot
All the best moonkins tank rn <:rip:703387151169224735>
Just like all the best ones played feral at one point 😭
potent cargo
its kinda fun swapping feral every few tiers for culture
bc you got less mechanics
more dps
lofty depot
bc you got less mechanics
Real
Stix prog u could mangle taunt tech
Oh the good days
Maybe we should do that more often so we get less mechanics mmhm mmhm
potent cargo
if feral was in the 130s
i would consider
(or I will do it on farm)
amirdrassil feral topping st dps by a fucking mile
lofty depot
Uhh, depends what gets changed right
lofty depot
See feral as the opposite problem but still usually doesn't do what rogue does
edgy quarry
Ok thanks you are the best !! 🙂
It's sometimes quite hard. You get the Ascendant Eclipse proc (3 stacks), which leads to Starsurge, but at the same time, you might have a Touch of the Cosmos or Starweaver proc for Starfall. However, if you use Starfall, you consume your Ascendant Eclipse stacks. So, I guess when Ascendant Eclipse is active, you should use Starsurge no matter what other procs you have?
lofty depot
Feral was just as shit early dimmy prog as boomkin.
But it doesn't do the st rogue does
lofty depot
It's sometimes quite hard. You get the Ascendant Eclipse proc (3 stacks), which ...
That doesn't matter
lucid olive
It's sometimes quite hard. You get the Ascendant Eclipse proc (3 stacks), which ...
nah you still starfall
spending procs > munching procs
lofty depot
Spend like the prio says
vital hound
Stix prog u could mangle taunt tech
taunting first ball went so hard
edgy quarry
Oh wow, okay ! In my head, I’m thinking, 'Nooo, I’m going to lose my Starsurge' but I’ll follow your advice. I set a sound for Touch of the Cosmos and Starweaver so that every time I hear it, I press Starfall no matter what 🥲
lofty depot
Sound queuing rotation procs gotta be a new level of demented
Blizzard was wrong to let us have freedom of expression
lofty depot
The only acceptable thing would be if he was blind
lofty depot
How do u see the chat silly
edgy quarry
IA can read anything today xD
lofty depot
U ain't talking in paragraphs text to speeching that fucking slow
edgy quarry
Nahhh just kindding ofc x)
edgy quarry
Sound queuing rotation procs gotta be a new level of demented
It's just to have some reflex I don't think about it in fight
lofty depot
I rather have sound on raid mechanics
edgy quarry
Seem quite weird but I swear it works for me x)
lofty depot
Like Russian counting on the color swaps for sprocket went hard
lofty depot
Seem quite weird but I swear it works for me x)
Gamz maybe changed mind about cosmos procs for ascendent
edgy quarry
Gamz maybe changed mind about cosmos procs for ascendent
oh ?
lucid olive
what addon we using to track alt vaults and shit
alterego
lucid olive
Gamz maybe changed mind about cosmos procs for ascendent
ye i checked the difference spending Cosmos procs on Starsurge with the 3 Ascendant Eclipse buffs up
potent cargo
idek what ascendant is bro im pressing starfall
lucid olive
first 3 spenders in eclipse
edgy quarry
ye i checked the difference spending Cosmos procs on Starsurge with the 3 Ascend...
Oh wow thank you ! So we can conclud that it's quite the same except that maybe with luck you can get more procs of starsurge 🤷♂️
edgy quarry
Sprocket was fun
Ofc it was but quite a big wall for guilds !
dense steeple
Wall for colorblind and WA gamers maybe
stone ledge
Link the sim
dull dust
BLOW UP
lofty depot
Oh wow thank you ! So we can conclud that it's quite the same except that maybe ...
ty for ur contribution to the sim
edgy quarry
ty for ur contribution to the sim
Didn't do much, you did all the work ! Glad I could help though 🙂
vital hound
dull dust
who
potent cargo
if he doesnt post the sim ill get it for u later
lofty depot
ironic if u will
potent cargo
i cba logging into the raidbots acct
potent cargo
its prolly in there
round field
Wall for colorblind and WA gamers maybe
fuck this rat bastard boss tbh
kindred token
How come the pvp tire set is way better looking?
normal pilot
i vote bug surely
dull dust
potent cargo
lucid olive
its prolly in there
its not
xddd
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s5CLjhZhGSjwnqHGWv1nNu also it was this
dull dust
holy leaking the secret apl
nimble tangle
So do we still starfall surge surge at the start of ascendant stacks
lucid olive
🤫
dull dust
craggy sonnet
So do we still starfall surge surge at the start of ascendant stacks
this was never the general default, or?
nimble tangle
Idk, those are what I read from Chinese community
drifting nova
sure but wheres the pve one
dull dust
dunno but less work for me
craggy sonnet
dont think thats true
jolly delta
sure but wheres the pve one
in 4 weeks
craggy sonnet
before meteorite nerfs maybe
nimble tangle
dont think thats true
The guide from Chinese community makes my EC single target rotation so ass
dull dust
void jacinth
how does a pasta do damage?
put ketchup on it to deal aoe damage to italians
jolly delta
what is this weekly
same as usual
lofty depot
are we pvping <@121360917907767296> `?
uhhh if u want to
lofty depot
no
jolly delta
3 bg for 1 hc ring?
no
lofty depot
4 week quest
pseudo merlin
whyat
jolly delta
4 week
dull dust
arctic i need one of ur alts to funnel me gear in m0s
dull dust
lofty depot
arctic i need one of ur alts to funnel me gear in m0s
shaman?
dull dust
close enough
lofty depot
lol
pseudo merlin
shuffle count?
lofty depot
actually we'll get AOTC on the same day anyway right
no
aotc only count for midnight falls
potent cargo
u get cata charge from like
pseudo merlin
who you calling an ocunt
pseudo merlin
2k probably
pseudo merlin
what about hc raid
lofty depot
u dont get aotc from crown
u get it from midnight falls
which comes out the following week
pseudo merlin
I mean so if you pvp next week you wont even have a hc piece for tierify?
dull dust
i just did
pseudo merlin
oh cuz LFR endboss didnt come out for months?
lofty depot
I mean so if you pvp next week you wont even have a hc piece for tierify?
uhh u could if u get the slot from raid
and then cata it
and then once u get 4p u can get cata charges from m+ or something
just dont know how many u get from "farming"
pseudo merlin
hmm
rough marten
if its anything like post season its fairly common
cata'd random shit and I was constantly capped on my push toon
lofty depot
idk cuz i thought it was targeted spells but it wasnt
lofty depot
bigwigs shouldnt load open world righT?
i barely saw ur arrow
the fuck u using lavender for
what orb is that
maiden pasture
no
lofty depot
hmm
maiden pasture
there are some animations tbf
lofty depot
hoary torrent
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1024018512269803530/1481438769394614385/N...
What AP bar is this Mr arctic?
hoary torrent
Tyty will give it a go it looks nice, I've not been happy with my bar since the great purge
lofty depot
threshold lines big pog
hoary torrent
Yeah that's whats caught my eye 👀
drifting nova
its not horrid with the animations and shit but
where chicken
stone ledge
Don’t think the lines are actually accurate with the ca cost reduction tho
lucid olive
Don’t think the lines are actually accurate with the ca cost reduction tho
if you have a better one then send it
jolly delta
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1024018512269803530/1481438769394614385/N...
bro
holy
and then you're the one complaining
lofty depot
tbf... when the essentials bar is lined up with innervate
theres a huge gap between the cast bar and the essentials bar
the buffs could be moved down
i was messing with cast bar on top or bottom of astral power :/
stone ledge
I just use senseis and learned costs ngl
jolly delta
too late i already made fun of your ui
stone ledge
I always used luckyone my entire time playing balance
lofty depot
I just use senseis and learned costs ngl
it adjusts in incarn and not.. .and then use rattle and have to do maf
i cba
craggy sonnet
Don’t think the lines are actually accurate with the ca cost reduction tho
they are
trail heath
Any idea if buffs will be posted tomorrow or Friday?
lofty depot
@gilded gyro hello can u please tell me whats in the patch notes before u post it thanks
also, i didnt mean to actually ping u.... so ur fault for having ur name that
😛
gilded gyro
We are planning to delete Ret, buff Rdruid and ELE. Since we still don’t know what a wind walker is we will ignore it.
vital hound
lofty depot
taht sounds badass
gilded gyro
We are also looking into Balance as well. Yuge buffs incoming
gilded gyro
Several interns recommended we go back to the waxing/waning mechanic……
drifting nova
several? you mustve counted wrong
gilded gyro
Well they were from the DH intern pool so
young horizon
hey any1 an enchanter
how dafrick do i make enchants that i can sell on the ah
i can only enchant my own gear im confused
glacial steeple
Enchanting Velum
trail heath
And we are getting pulser back??
hazy dune
does anyone know of a modding script for plater that colors the enemy bar if either sun- or moonfire is missing? I've been trying around but it doesnt seem to work.
craggy sonnet
does anyone know of a modding script for plater that colors the enemy bar if eit...
this is restricted now .. cant be done
drifting nova
unless
hazy dune
Thought so. I have been doubting my Lua skills 
dense steeple
arctic you got how many 250 pieces?
gloomy spruce
dull dust
lofty depot
crest saving champ yes
weak sedge
if ive got a shitty off stat spear vs a fist weapon but on stat + pvp off hand should i just craft a spark off hand
sour rampart
weak sedge
ive done my world tour this week
vital hound
if ive got a shitty off stat spear vs a fist weapon but on stat + pvp off hand s...
no
lofty depot
u shuoldnt be crafting right now
lofty depot
u will most likely craft 2h weapon
vital hound
delicate perch
<@129188899741237248>
🤢
sour rampart
I literally stepped into m0's for the first time to play aug last week lmao
was fun
we did 4x mail 1x plate for our m0s
weak sedge
i forgot to add vet crests, i can craft a 2h with vet crests thats better than both options
without sparks
so just do that right?
jade flume
It's my first time playing aug! it's actually quite fun
Aug is bis
vital hound
doesn't really matter
lofty depot
u likely shouldnt be crafting even next week but suppose depends where ur sending other crests
jade flume
this guy hjas full 240 wtf
Even looqe is full 240
sour rampart
i forgot to add vet crests, i can craft a 2h with vet crests thats better than b...
Are you raiding n/h next week? And what day are you doing it?
lofty depot
Even looqe is full 240
well all mine are 240
jade flume
Just gotta log in and do dongers type shit
jade flume
Ye i meant every item ofc
vital hound
LariasAI is getting stronger
lofty depot
yea cringe
weak sedge
Are you raiding n/h next week? And what day are you doing it?
n on tues
vital hound
lofty depot
im slamming m0s tuesday and wednesday then crafting wednesday before raid
vital hound
im slamming m0s tuesday and wednesday then crafting wednesday before raid
are they still vet
lofty depot
craft staff at vet + w.e off piece prob
lofty depot
ye
sour rampart
n on tues
IF you want a boost going into N, you can spend 80 vet crests crafting a 2h staff ye. You're going to replace it instantly but if you dont have time before then and want to make sure you're contributing to the team, its a fine play to make. there isnt much else to do
jade flume
Crests no clue
lofty depot
need to see what items i dont get
sour rampart
m0 will be champ + daily reset
vital hound
from m0 next week
teal sphinx
@vital hound 
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> <a:wave:1042193720780541972>
jade flume
Ive been hearing champ but we will see
lofty depot
u recraft the staff the following week with mythic crests tho
jade flume
Idk if anyone can say with 100 certainty
sour rampart
u recraft the staff the following week with mythic crests tho
you dont recraft a vet staff
teal sphinx
i dont have time to run 8 myth 0s every day
vital hound
Ive been hearing champ but we will see
the arguments for vet i have seen
teal sphinx
vital hound
is that champ track is when season starts
lofty depot
you dont recraft a vet staff
what
sour rampart
you literally cannot recraft a vet staff with myth crests
they're two different item types
vet = blue item, vet crests, no sparks
lofty depot
can u not craft a staff with 2 sparks without crests?
jade flume
You can
sour rampart
lofty depot
isnt it vet ilvl?
sour rampart
can u not craft a staff with 2 sparks without crests?
you can, thats champ
lofty depot
oh
lofty depot
well my fault i thought it was vet
but yea u recraft it with mythic crests is what i meant
jsut thought it was lower ilvl
jade flume
Im crafting staffer on shitty alts
And trying to get vet crest achiev early
And then my mains go 📈
sour rampart
well my fault i thought it was vet
its ok ❤️ i just wanted to make sure we were clear because they were was a new guy asking questions
lofty depot
yea
glacial steeple
Balance definitely still needs buffs
sly wadi
always needs buffs
lofty depot
remember that these are the people complaining that balance needs buffs
no im complaining too
they just happen to not know how to play my spec
glacial steeple
You're saying you don't have 110% uptime on Eclipse?
Next you're gonna tell me starlord doesn't reset if you hit eclipse
jolly delta
no im complaining too
yes but ask yourself are you really representative of the userbase
potent cargo
it is criminal that ppl dont read their spells and wonder what is going on
lofty depot
yes but ask yourself are you really representative of the userbase
nah im thje 0.5%
potent cargo
just put a build in, get confused, and then come here to ask a q
lofty depot
mmhm mmhm
jolly delta
just put a build in, get confused, and then come here to ask a q
real
one would think that reading 5 spells would be easier
jolly delta
anyways at least this guy got an answer
I'm curious to know how many people try a class, don't press any of the major buttons and then go complain that it's weak
pretty silly
versed hawk
Should you reapply moonfire and sunfire before every eclipse
If they have less than 15 seconds
jolly delta
it's potentially less bad now to refresh in eclipse
but who knows
should still do it before for good measure
grim crater
tbh im not enjoying this whole eclipse active ability
potent cargo
so you prefer to cast two slow starfires to get into solar eclipse
instead of an instant press button
grim crater
well, dreamstate kinda helped with that XD
nah but for real, my issue is just with the time
and not necessarily being able to have 100% uptime
but i mean, might just depend. I'm still playing EC gonna go into KOTG now to see.
inland stump
losing another one to KOTG smh
grim crater
losing another one to KOTG smh
Full EC right here boi, just checking KOTG out XD
I prefer the EC playstyle by far seems more fast pace
lofty depot
prefer casting starfire lovely "playstyle"
misty glade
I prefer the EC playstyle by far seems more fast pace
out of curiosity, can you explain what you mean?
lofty depot
fast pace, 2 sec spam casting starfire on st
i hope keeper is better in m+ so the rats have to learn how to play
misty glade
EC just seems to be missing Something
lofty depot
anything
fotm rerollers just rerolled for free s2 cuz the spec was bm levels of braindead
drifting nova
EC just seems to be missing *Something*
the big ec buff spell..does nothing, that'l be it
misty glade
?
misty glade
Sorry, I didn't follow that sentence is all
drifting nova
misty glade
Oh, you're saying that starfire is undertuned?
misty glade
I do feel like I was only able to do damage in M0 with Meteor Storm and incarn up. The Apex talent lunar eclipse bolts appear to just tickle, even if everything is stacked
drifting nova
that and apex talents just moved half of what EC had
to KOTG
giving EC ..nothing
lot of apex talents only seem to work with one hero talent
rugged bobcat
what are the current best talents for dungeons
rugged bobcat
is it really that ass right now?
lofty depot
play bear for do less damage than tank
rugged bobcat
what about resto, is resto good atm?
lofty depot
sure
rugged bobcat
hmm
lofty depot
u can play it... ur just doing 15% less than peoepl for fun
rugged bobcat
is resto fun? i've never healed before
lofty depot
suppose u can learn how to play it if ur having trouble
i mean... i tanking is far easier kek
drifting nova
I hated wildstalker with a passion as resto idk
maiden pasture
Resto omega piss easy in dungeons
rugged bobcat
Resto omega piss easy in dungeons
actually?
maiden pasture
I think so
rugged bobcat
Keep lifebloom up
Wild growth on cd
Swiftmend -> rejuv
you use the wowhead build?
maiden pasture
Yeah
maiden pasture
maybe if theres less cat I'll give resto another go
You don't need to go cat
Even if you never got cat you still play wildstalker in dungeons it still does big healing
maiden pasture
It just also happens to do the most damage if you do to cat
Idk you like don't need to interact with wildstalker at all if you don't like it, full passive just end up healing more
silver steeple
Hey guys, sorry for interrupting, but i have an actual balance question 😄 As i didnt find anything on a quick google: Is it intended that free starsurges via star cascade don't trigger stellar amplification?
drifting nova
huh, thats a talent
silver steeple
Star Cascade is the Elune hero talent that procs free starsurges, so my thought was it should trigger stellar amplification (moar dot damage on targets hit by starsurge)
drifting nova
yeah it tracks, spose I never read the new hero line
silver steeple
Guess i'll ask again later when a bigger audience is online 🙂
drifting nova
prob intentional but idk, it reads like it should work
cant be having free damage now can we
normal pilot
The balance version of star cascade is specifically coded to not proc anything
Intended or dev being careless impossible to tell with blizz quality
silver steeple
🥲
normal pilot
Also good chance dev doesn't even know that's how it works
I guess you can make a bug report but that's about it
silver steeple
Yea ^^ At least the wording on Stellar Amplification should be corrected then, something like 'Casting Starsurge on a target...'
normal pilot
That's too long some blizz devs think that will confuse ppl
silver steeple
hehe
normal pilot
Its better to be easy to understand than be correct
drifting nova
400 things to do before that
like some classes dont even use all the apex talent points
thats the real fun one
silver steeple
Now that i think about, guess i'll test (later) if convoke starsurges do apply that debuff
yea :<
normal pilot
Those are normal surges, as is the bear version of star cascade
Its just the balance one that doesn't proc
silver steeple
Ah ok, sounds like you actually know (technical) what you're talking about
thanks for your input then 🙂
lofty depot
Yea ^^ At least the wording on Stellar Amplification should be corrected then, s...
the tier set worked but now the talent doesnt, unluggi
spice roost
is there any reason to run control over power of the dream with incarn
lofty depot
is there any reason to run control over power of the dream with incarn
would depend if there was a timing in a fight where we were off by that amount
seen sims of both being around the same
delicate perch
That's too long some blizz devs think that will confuse ppl
people would defs be like "it's instant cast" 
lone turret
Unlucky ID with my druid
M0 Worldtour - 0 item
Weekly - 0 item
Prey - 0 item
delicate perch
what ilvl are you
potent cargo
feel like its statistically impossible to get 0 items
lone turret
239
potent cargo
you mean, 0 upgrades
delicate perch
lmaooo
potent cargo
delicate perch
yea no shit bud
lone turret
you mean, 0 upgrades
Yes
grand ingot
does anyone know what the best overall talent build will be for raid? just the wowhead ones? or are they cooked
delicate perch
womp womp
potent cargo
well its a good thing it doesn't matter at all
delicate perch
some of us are in the trenches
lone turret
I know but feels unlucky xD
potent cargo
does anyone know what the best overall talent build will be for raid? just the w...
just go to warcraftlogs once raid is released and steal the builds from top parses
delicate perch
do NOT give big gamz a click
potent cargo
if u do m0s right
delicate perch
true
grand ingot
yeah true. i was just thinking ahead of the curve XD
delicate perch
think CE instead
potent cargo
u can do whatever for aotc dont even need to play the game just go afk hit boss once
grand ingot
for week 1 lol
lone turret
even better u go to lorggs steal their cd timings too
Will be loorgs updated for midnight - discord seams dead
normal pilot
wdym does it not work on midnight logs or something?
lone turret
At the moment you can select only manaforge raid
normal pilot
well ya there are no midnight raid logs since the raid isn't open
potent cargo
dull dust
any bets if those cheater guys go kill the end boss day 1 again
normal pilot
wdym cheaters they're just better at the game than blizz
dull dust
sage axle
whats better
i could upgrade drums to max now for free i think cuz i got the crucible
I heard crucible is terrible so ill prob just upgrade drums and keep using it
potent cargo
I heard crucible is terrible so ill prob just upgrade drums and keep using it
HEARD WRONG BUDDY
sage axle
Really?
My ret friend told me it was trash
But hes not boomy so idk lol
So crucible is better than drums?
delicate perch
mistake 1 listening to a ret player
sage axle
true, I just dont really feel like simming this early lol
delicate perch
then just put on the cuter item who cares
loud kettle
Honestly, your ret friend saying not to use it is evidence enough that you should
sage axle
Im pretty sure he just went off the stat gain, being half the drums proc, but he didnt take into account proc length and rpm
Im telling him hes wrong and now hes telling me theres a way to upgrade the trinket to make it better. I never heard of this. Is he bullshitting
Should I listen to him or? Dont feel like theres some quest chain to upgrade this random trinket lmao
jaunty blaze
You get upgrades where you bought it
Via some weekly quest system
The 3 points needed for that are fairly fast to get
spice roost
You get upgrades where you bought it
wait so u can make the renoun trinket better?
jaunty blaze
Yes but I hane no clue how much of an increase it is really
Sims assume you have the upgrade by default I think
They are checked on default
spice roost
ah i see ty
sick ruin
Should I play mushrooms on M0+ dungeons?
grand ingot
is there a macro to cast force of nature on your target? no like a cursor cast, but kind of like a target one?
novel socket
#showtooltip Grove Guardians
/use [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@player] Grove Guardians
still does it on your mouse though but it will be no cursor
grand ingot
so you jsut have to have it over the hp bar?
round field
is there a macro to cast force of nature on your target? no like a cursor cast, ...
force of nature is ground targeted and ground targeted spells cant be cast on enemies/allies
potent cargo
no
there is no way to target it at something
putting ur mouse over the health bar will have them spawn near you
or in the middle of nowhre
idk where ur health bar is
round field
#showtooltip Grove Guardians
/use [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@player]...
also this is a resto spell
grand ingot
ah okay, so the cursor over on the boss then
round field
on the floor where the boss is
potent cargo
yer
grand ingot
okay. gotcha. do you guys have any good macros for openers? or is it better to just do it yourself?
novel socket
if you press that macro it will cast them at your cursor... without the macro you have to press the skill, then left click on the ground where you want it
this takes out a click
round field
uh
why do u have
all those extra lines for no reason
just do @ cursor lmao
also as i said
novel socket
its an oldschool macro
round field
grove guardians and force of nature are not the same spell
novel socket
if you played back in vanilla, you would know
round field
i know how macros work thank you
potent cargo
#showtooltip
/cast [known:force of nature, @cursor] force of nature;
thats what i use
dont even need the known shit in there its just a conditional for when i had it sharing a bind with another spell
round field
Oh really
potent cargo
okay. gotcha. do you guys have any good macros for openers? or is it better to j...
our opener is probably like idk 4 spells
novel socket
was just trying to help
potent cargo
nothing to even macro
I have 4 macros for boomy and 2 of them are to use toys when I press my spells
one of em is tech that's too advanced for the likes of the ppl in this discord
grand ingot
nice lmfao.
grand ingot
do we basically cast 2 wraths,dot then do your big cooldowns?
I was forced to swap to boomkin this expansion. so im very noob on it
I normally played resto ha
novel socket
2 wrath, 2 dots, force of nature, incarn spend build spend build
grand ingot
dang 3 cast
potent cargo
ya, i mean not always practical so a couple wraths is fine too
novel socket
do you all agree with going with the eclipse before incarn?
potent cargo
yes bc its free dmg
novel socket
I thought you would want to get incarn on cd and your force of nature on cd fast
to get more total uptime
potent cargo
2s for eclipse for free asp and a solar bolt > incarn/fon on cd for 2s plus you already have cdr on them
grand ingot
do you guys think the single target will be decent this tier? idk how it was for yall last.
novel socket
I have a feeling we wont be
spice roost
i dont think theres one fight that has pure st tho
potent cargo
there'll be a few fights we're decent at
i dont expect to see many on the end boss tho
unless you're better than everyone else kinda thing
potent cargo
bc you can reroll/re-gear someone by the time you hit them 
potent cargo
I'm not holding breath but will see what happens in a few days
think there's tuning on the 13th
or the 17th cant fkn remember
potent cargo
feels like it'd be better to delay it a few days after that
spice roost
and 24th
potent cargo
I'd posit the 24th would have our st buffs
once they see the raid dps and boomy down the very bottom
or at least to the tune of what we'd want
spice roost
i thought every fight in raid had multiple targets though
so why does pure st matter
potent cargo
well, st dmg always matters
bare in mind I am talking from the perspective of like
actual guilds
top 20-50 sorta range ig
potent cargo
boomies saving grace is it doesn't have to sacrifice a heap of dmg to change dmg profiles
but in all of my experience there's not many fights where our aoe damge has been needed and you kinda just relegate yourself to blasting st anyway
because other specs have so much more than we do
and nah average CE guild, which I assume isn't even hof none of this shit matters at all
grand ingot
can you send me your talent build for raid G?
potent cargo
I don't have any
I will log in at night and go to warcraftlogs
and just copy whoever's build does the most dmg
without thinking too hard
potent cargo
this has sample build for kotg you can use
I will let the chinese and american do the work
potent cargo
gg
spice roost
fwiw its is in the builds on wowhead under balanced build not sure why the lower simming st build is posted as higher
im also getting better sims with goldrinn instead of mushroom
spice roost
ya prob
i just hope we actually end up playing incarn on all the fights id like that
or 1min convoke
spice roost
this is simming highest for me atm st
do u think ther tierset changes the build or no ? i dont really see why it would
delicate perch
but in all of my experience there's not many fights where our aoe damge has been...
always this, guild full of padding rats too
somber goblet
do u think ther tierset changes the build or no ? i dont really see why it would
we might play rattle the stars with 4p don't you think ?
idk tho but it might be worth trying
potent cargo
we might play rattle the stars with 4p don't you think ?
will be a sim q
since 4pc effects starfall as well
starweaver/touch synergise well kinda thing
somber goblet
yeah true
spice roost
doesnt exist without externals and bs im sure
sudden flame
jaunty blaze
Any % of 0 still remains 0
😔
No way they buff st by like 10% and even then it's not great
potent cargo
yer i mean
10% buff to a couple spells doesn't even move the needle
20% aura buff would be some unprecedented shit but we need it
delicate perch
We will get weekly 5% aura buffs until king blizzard decides we are fine again
potent cargo
yer no chance
delicate perch
enh got that negative 25%, surely we can cop a sneaky 20% 
jaunty blaze
Let me change the numbers rq
spice roost
isnt our tierset also 20% buff to us
potent cargo
I assume everyone can get 4pc
spice roost
ya
potent cargo
if you got multiple splits + lfr
jaunty blaze
Rather would have it like frost mage where set only gives like 4% but the spec does dmg
spice roost
when does catalyst come out next week?
my mage is actually 243 atm rdy if boomie doesnt see big enough buffs
got super lucky in 0s absicly
round field
says the feral
sudden flame
potent cargo
ionic gate
do you know of any addons like the old eclipse weakaura? (the game's own eclipse but weakaura which always appears and has a counter,and it doesn't disappear immediately)
potent cargo
do you know of any addons like the old eclipse weakaura? (the game's own eclipse...
you just want an icon for eclipse duration?
sry dont understand what you need
ionic gate
smth like this
potent cargo
ah
not overlaying like that i dont think
best we can do is similar to your woe/starfall/starlord weak auras
this style
ionic gate
yeye i have a wa np but druid has a lot of buffs it looks crowded to me
i thought maybe eclipse had an addon to delete eclipses from my buff tracker
potent cargo
you can alwyas remove them from buff tracker but unfortunately not put them somewhere else 🙁
ionic gate
ye :c
ionic gate
too much to devourer dh 
jaunty blaze
Why is starlord off-center 😭
pallid bay
mainly cause i dont really care tbh
jaunty blaze
rough flax
ye :c
idk if this helps you but you can put ur eclipse on the track bars so it doesnt show
and then they dont show ontop of the ui
ionic gate
ye ik but its looks rly bad
ionic gate
smth like this
i think this is doable as addon idk
jaunty blaze
Some ppl here did them as bars similar to weakaura with arcui
ionic gate
mmmm