balance

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

Was gonna say at some point didn't they used to spam moonfire because the damage on casts is shit

Pvp so fascinating

[dense crater]

Hey all! Back playing my Boomie since midnight launch, and I'm noticing I keep looking at my buffs in top-right corner to see if my eclipse is still up. Previous expantion my Wrath and Starfire would light up during eclipse, and both of those are placed quite centrally in my UI, but those dont light up anymore. What are you guys doing to keep track of eclipse / its remaining time?

[royal zenith]

are you actually pressing your eclipse button?

or just visually not lighting up on action bar

[queen obsidian]

I'm using the base game spell alerts and the CDM buff tracking bars

[royal zenith]

afaik it does light up for default, but I've swapped to custom so can't say for sure anymore

[sour rampart]

@lofty depot

[dense crater]

Yeah, pressing eclipse! Should Wrath and Starfire still highlight while in eclipse? Maybe some addon I'm running is turning that off...

[runic kindle]

afaik it only highlights them initially because you get a free instant cast of either of them, so its to indicate that you have that, they don't stay highlighted to show you're in eclipse

[dense crater]

Yeah, thats exactly what happens here

Buff tracking bar might be a good shout though, place that somewhere in view

[lofty depot]

Yee

[royal zenith]

yeah, I swapped to bars for both eclipses, CA, etc.

[dense crater]

Which addon you using specfically?

[royal zenith]

Im using arcui for the bars

[dense crater]

Thnx!

[misty forge]

any news on our APL?

[cloud citrus]

Porom said no

[lofty depot]

What would u like to know

[misty forge]

no clue, if it's had any progress since last I read it wasn't there yet

[lofty depot]

It has yea, it's next to complete, likely no major shifts

[round field]

i dont believe you

[lofty depot]

That's fine

[round field]

agreed

[misty forge]

sweet, tyvm buddy

[lofty depot]

The AOE/dungeon sim is more wip right now, but they're working it.

[royal zenith]

did NA have their reset @lofty depot

or not yet

[lofty depot]

40 minutes ago yes

[royal zenith]

go do ring/necklace quest!!

I need to know how bad it is

[round field]

uh

[lofty depot]

My guildies are doing it. Training ground comp stomp seem annoying

[round field]

im gonna go off vibes and say no

[lofty depot]

PEANUT

HEY NO RUSSIAN IN THE CHAT

[round field]

ok my vibes were correct

[royal zenith]

no fcking clue what that is

[wicked shuttle]

slaps monitor

[wise loom]

where can i read about the boomkin changes
im kinda confused i can not seem to trigger eclipses without using CA

[lofty depot]

Wowhead or dreamgrove.gg

[jade flume]

Someone check if u can do nightmare preyz

[wise loom]

wowhead is blocked in thailand :c

[lofty depot]

Have u considered getting a vpn

[vale pebble]

is na up

[lofty depot]

Yes

[vale pebble]

is there a

[wise loom]

actually did not even think about it lol thanks

[vale pebble]

hero track neck or ring from pvp weekly

in the game

[lofty depot]

Yes

[vale pebble]

chills

[wicked shuttle]

wtf

[royal zenith]

[jade flume]

What the smelly

[lofty depot]

So my guildie said he didn't do the world soul last week, did a delve got a catch up spark and quest gave 3rd

Hmmm

Where my third spark

[jade flume]

Ur guildie a liar

Or bad at maths

[vale pebble]

erm

shouldnt u be on 3?

[jade flume]

Wait

[vale pebble]

we are on 2 rn

[jade flume]

Maybe he neither

[lofty depot]

The world soul one doesn't count yes

[jade flume]

I forgor its na

[lofty depot]

I just didn't know where to get 3rd

[jade flume]

Is world soul the choice one

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

No

It's th quest for mlorthemer

[jade flume]

Never heard of her

[void jacinth]

this quest warrants a 10min video

go go go

the people need to know

[royal zenith]

you dont know what hill you have to climb yet...

[lofty depot]

So liquid no rwf event or

[royal zenith]

yeah for sure they will cast m0's and leveling when heroic is still a full week away!

do you know how many monsters they would have to buy for raiders

[stone ledge]

Will probably start up Monday night

[lofty depot]

@sour rampart

[wild dune]

aint this week

[lucid olive]

Takes 4 weeks to complete

Good luck

[lofty depot]

Ez

[sour rampart]

Does your guildie have a screenshot of 3 soaked in inventory

Sparks

[lofty depot]

He hasn't done the quest yet

[cerulean egret]

ok so I am a resto main but I am trying out balance while doing the campaign and i am confused. I cannot fight more than 1 thing at a time before dying. I thought the treants were supposed to like tank stuff but the enemeies ignore them

like if i try to fight two enemies i just end up spamming regrowth on myself

[lofty depot]

hes doing it, be done in a bit

[lofty depot]

balance druid do no dam

press n and play bear

[cerulean egret]

aw man, well then id rather go back to resto i can still be immortal and do balance spells just more slowly

[lofty depot]

bear does more damage

[cerulean egret]

i like the plants and magic of resto and balance so i prefer those

[merry moth]

Hey folks! Are you guys also feeling like Balance is really weak right now?
I'm leveling my second alt (Arcane Mage) and the difference in difficulty is huge. My mage with the same ilvl hits WAY harder on mobs than my druid.
I died several times while leveling because I tried pulling 3–4 mobs to speed up quests and just couldn’t survive it. Losing Renewal felt really rough. I've been using HP potions more than ever just to stay alive.
I end up relying on my treants to tank (I’ve even been using the taunt talent), so for bigger groups I can only really pull every 45 seconds. Meanwhile my mage just melts mobs as long as I have Arcane Charges, and if I get good procs I basically delete everything.
What happened to our class?

[lofty depot]

might be a gear issue

might be playing worse

i just level bear always

[merry moth]

Ilvl shouldnt be a thing while leveling... Right now I'm 240 and still feel way weaker than before

[sour rampart]

Bruh is your friend a boomie what's taking so long

[lofty depot]

Void assault take forever

[drifting nova]

from every class I've seen arcane is like giga broken in comparison to chicken

[gritty granite]

Yeah, level bear. Boomie is due for a turbo buff.

[drifting nova]

arcane is the only class I've seen hit 200k on a pack

and yes half of it was arcane splinter

whatever that does..the apex? idk

[jade flume]

failed that shit like 2 times

need to have at least 80 homies and nobody be afk or its gg

[dense steeple]

Fu kin roasted

[wild dune]

hero talent

[dense steeple]

You need one person who knows what their doing at each spawn lmao

[drifting nova]

oh, only really played frostfire mage, not touched arcane

[lucid olive]

Sunfury is really fun

On both specs

[dense steeple]

Drop the lightning rods, and keep mobs ccd in them or stand in them when they target you so that they stand in them. It melts them

[drifting nova]

frostfire was my favoured over spellslinger for frost, never really tried fire/arcane

[sour rampart]

This is the text of the generic quest turn in. Obviously it's flavor text, but it does say weekly.

[drifting nova]

This is a spark of radiance, human

treat it well

[glad helm]

On a random Tuesday, really? dafaq

[plucky valley]

the server lag just picked up as well

at least in harandussy

[nimble tangle]

i hate this game now

[upper anvil]

are yall prey giving you 1k towardss the journey?\

[cloud citrus]

ye i got nothing

i guess they want you getting 4 next week

[sour rampart]

They hard capped it at 3

[restive jolt]

where do we get the 3rd this week then

[lofty depot]

U don't

[restive jolt]

well guess im logging til 0s on thurs

[warm current]

was going to ask this in the tettles stream but figured this would be a better place

if single target in M+ (using EC) wouldn't wrath be the go to over starfire or just use wrath when not in eclipse?

[lofty depot]

Why would wrath be the go to

Starfire does more damage in lunar

[warm current]

gamz breakdown showed it out performing starfire but not sure the full criteria of how that happened 😛

or i might just be misinterpreting the data

[lofty depot]

That's outside of eclipse

[warm current]

we're not out of eclipse that often though right? even single target (when in eclipse/CA) we use starfire if using EC?

[lofty depot]

Depends on fight length

But shouldn't be no

[warm current]

sounds good, thanks for clarification 🙂

[sour rampart]

3rd spark is available from world PVP quest

Pick up the Sparks of War: voidstorm quest https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1479176784049209435/1480984982376677526/image.png?ex=69b1aa3f&is=69b058bf&hm=6581e21872dcaa0299575918e9ea96dcada8cb884b2cccf733d3377a38c90af1&

Turn on warmode and go nuts in the void storm pvp area in the north.

It does not show that it gives a spark but it does.

[sage sinew]

proof?

[lofty depot]

Larias known liar

[ornate girder]

thats true too

[lofty depot]

Show total 3

Currency tab

[ornate girder]

oh thats just from someone in my guild

let me ask

[spice roost]

i wonder if its just a catchup one

[lofty depot]

My guildie got a catch up one

And then tried to do world soul quest sia for would give one, but didnt

[lofty depot]

Apparently someone from pop tart

[ornate girder]

👀

wont catch me pvp'ing though

[woven blade]

Does anyone have issues where for couple of seconds u run out of eclipse chargers and incarnation on cd and you’re left fighting a pack with no eclipse ? Or am i doing something wrong ?

[raven gorge]

how big is the dps difference between elune's chosen and kotg in m+?

[meager storm]

well gotta wait for m+ to come out

[lofty depot]

That's not an "issue" or a "bug" that's how it works

[woven blade]

Damn that sucks big time

[lofty depot]

Means u should be doing more damage inside ur CDs

Ur looking at it as the 20% of downtime and or the 80% of In cds

[woven blade]

Gotchu ty

[raven gorge]

what was it like in the beta? I just started midnight so idk if they changed stuff from then

[lofty depot]

They have

And there's gonna be tuning next week and for the next 4 weeks

So any assumptions anyone has now don't matter

[woven blade]

Since the eclipse button are on gcd which is annoying, running into a pack do we enter eclipse then spread dots or the opposite ?

[lofty depot]

U would dot first

Still need to sim the opening sequence and rather m+ differences

[woven blade]

Ty

[ripe slate]

can confirm the quest gives the third

[lofty depot]

World pvp quest?

Lol that's funny, cuz a they were talking about it in RLE, and my guildie said he did it already and didn't get it.

[ripe slate]

sparks of war

[lofty depot]

Ye

[ripe slate]

source: me xd

i heard someone say they got it from m0 too but can't confirm firsthand

[spice roost]

where do u pick up the quest exactlyt

[ripe slate]

its in the pvp area, SW of silvermoon

[spice roost]

ok

[ripe slate]

SW section of silvermoon*

[lucid olive]

Stormwind section of Silvermoon?

[ripe slate]

yes

[lucid olive]

bet

[full sleet]

I just glanced at the rotation guide, is elune rotation pretty similar to last season? Ill look at it closer later but at a glance it looks similar

[lofty depot]

If it plays rattle yes

U don't gen as much asp

[keen warren]

Just got smoked in damage by a prot pally, anything look off about my spell damage?

gotta get warcraft logs back online soon, but hopefully from here something can be pointed out what im lacking

was nexus m0

[lofty depot]

Logs is back

U can log

But a meter doesn't help me help u

Other than, EC is cringe and m0 mobs die fast

[spice roost]

keeper better atm?

[keen warren]

Alrighty, thanks!

[lofty depot]

It could be

Might it's better later, who knows

[keen warren]

I like elunes fury more than treants, but it is less exciting not switching eclipses. But I’ll roll with whatever is best

[lofty depot]

It's not lik.u switch eclipses

Ur still mostly in lunar

U play fury with keeper so that's no longer an excuse

Treants are a damage buff

[kindred token]

It's always better

[dull dust]

86 on the druid

almost there

[lofty depot]

86, wow same as my sim

[dull dust]

bros literally bis already

or playing feral

[lofty depot]

Yea maybe by the time u get to 90 the sim will be 90

(so next Tuesday)

[dull dust]

I just need 2 more levels

the i rip the delve questies and craft

also is the delve up again today

[lofty depot]

No

It's a random rotation

[dull dust]

questing for 2 levels is pain

mabey I queue dungeons as bear

and just solo them

[lucid olive]

dungeons take forever

[dull dust]

so do quests

[dim solar]

Isn't there some new shroom farm for levelling?

Heard Meeres mention it

[dull dust]

shrooms?

[royal zenith]

when?

[warm current]

it's the ring cloth farm, also really good for leveling

[dull dust]

so like

free money

[dim solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYFVOTuEEyM

[dim solar]

Yeah

Somebody in the comments said it's patched 12h ago, so not sure if it's still viable

[dull dust]

I hate blizzard

[warm current]

not surprising, it was OP af

[dim solar]

😢

[dull dust]

u must quest threw the campaign on every alt!!

[drifting nova]

I cant quite tell why I dislike levelling more than tww

maybe it is just the campaign

and dungeons seeming longer

[dull dust]

its just slower

[royal zenith]

campaign was horrible cause you had downtime

[drifting nova]

no way in hell I'll dung spam the very same char I did past 2xpacs

they all take forever

[royal zenith]

and dungeons have a lot of 4 bosses

(also never queue follower dungeons to clear quest)

[dull dust]

lowkey mabey this will make me less of a alcoholic

[royal zenith]

think it will make you drink more..

[dull dust]

Phone correct

altoholic

[royal zenith]

[dull dust]

u rite tho

[drifting nova]

going real ff14

no addons, campaign long as balls

[radiant tree]

spectral chicken

[drifting nova]

13 m0 bosses no loot

🙈

[tacit quest]

Good thing you got next week as well

[drifting nova]

14...

[uncut roost]

How's that leather stack working for ya

[drifting nova]

oh I've only done 1 on my druid

funny you say that I managed to find a 4druid group on my war..so

maybe they think I'm a druid

[kindred token]

😂

[restive jolt]

@sour rampart check wowhead sir

[lofty depot]

@sour rampart check wowhead sir

[sour rampart]

I know.

[lofty depot]

U yea ur welcome

[restive jolt]

perfect

[lofty depot]

We let u know

[restive jolt]

thank god no pvp for pve

[sour rampart]

I beat wowhead to it lol

[lofty depot]

Why is feral missing?

[drifting nova]

imaging chasing the spark

[restive jolt]

time to afk this for a 3rd time today

[jovial sundial]

Couldnt they have added this before I did all my hunts

[sour rampart]

Lol

[jovial sundial]

Ill just do the BG one, its just 1 bg

[royal zenith]

you all work with the same sources 😭

guildies and RLE discord 😭

[sour rampart]

And friends pog

[royal zenith]

those dont exist

[sour rampart]

Wowhead actually has to verify it themselves though which I respect

[stone ledge]

Do random hard mode hunts need to do them to cap crests anyways

[sour rampart]

I can yolo shit

[royal zenith]

yeah you can spread misinformation

and not care too much

[sour rampart]

Exactly

I love being me

[royal zenith]

bit like arctic

[jovial sundial]

I was gonna do the 3 bgs for weekly anyways so two birds

[royal zenith]

you're basically brothers

[drifting nova]

[sour rampart]

Hear that lil bro? @royal zenith

Wait

I meant to ping

[royal zenith]

what the..

[sour rampart]

@lofty depot

Hear that lil bro?

[royal zenith]

you are definitely the unc of the 2

[sour rampart]

You two are the same person

So

You're just more toxic

[lofty depot]

What the

I ask guildie to confirm, then make someone else confirm

Ezpz

They spread lies

Larias do be the unc

[drifting nova]

unc is prob an unc word now

keep up

never doing a dungeon with an all druid group again

they arent even wards

[nimble tangle]

Dropping PvP quest now

Too many weeklies

And M0 gave me useless bracer only

All useless

[royal zenith]

really funny how they pushed Prey as major content

what a system

[drifting nova]

wait for nightmare

[lofty depot]

It's giving upgrades

[drifting nova]

you'l be floor pov

[lofty depot]

Is major content

[glad helm]

Does it have to be Voidstorm or doesn't matter?

[sour rampart]

You can just do the pve version now

[lucid olive]

The major content for the expansion is housing for sure, and then I think they focus on having a bunch of small content stuff

[somber path]

there is a pve version no need to do degen wpvp quest

[royal zenith]

its just so weird man

[lucid olive]

Like Prey, all the events, Abundance, Prop Hunt etc

[glad helm]

what does it mean

[royal zenith]

Im flying around doing traps and having no clue how far I am etc.

[lucid olive]

I have not done a single prey yet

Not sure I am going to..

[royal zenith]

Ive been having this issue during questing too

the game guides you in a terrible way

[drifting nova]

yeah wish prey had a % bar

[somber path]

I did it once on an alt and was like "this is boring" never touched it again

[drifting nova]

to make it alot easier

its bracketed

[sour rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1479175800161829046/1481017641866104992/image.png?ex=69b1c8a9&is=69b07729&hm=376d857cd710c79e71b0d96bc9fcdeeda7ea2bc53fec24ca484f61e9e47e13e3&

[royal zenith]

it just needs something more in terms of guiding the player

almost worse than poe..

almost

[drifting nova]

but doesnt tell you much

[lucid olive]

I just want the season to start man

[drifting nova]

feed piss of saron into my veins

[sour rampart]

Wait are you eu? It's not live yet in eu

[lucid olive]

so guide writing season can be over and I can play the game

[glad helm]

oh I see

[lofty depot]

Remember last tier when the guide had to be rewritten 3 times in the first 2 weeks mmhm mmhm

Ur job ain't over yet bud

[lucid olive]

yeah I am expecting to rewrite the rotation for the tuning on 17th

It probably needs some updating now, but I have other things to do first

[royal zenith]

isnt that what makes it fun

you're never actually done..

[lucid olive]

at least wowhead deadline is on friday so I can spend the weekend on Compendium

Compendium is my lovechild anyway

[upper anvil]

Every parent always has a favorite child

[lucid olive]

method guide is the kid you leave at the mall and then remember when you're already halfway home so you have to drive back

(that one really needs updating, the deadline on it was a week before wowhead and it was pure guessing)

[upper anvil]

I have a guildie that prefers methods guide on a spec and refused to look at wowhead

[lucid olive]

yeah the quality of guide depends on writer

[upper anvil]

Tho the same one that says they dont spec into kick on shaman since they're now healing

[lucid olive]

but some websites have more tools than others in how you can convey yourself

[upper anvil]

And its not their job anymore but I

[lucid olive]

from what I've heard the best page to write guide for is icyveins

when it comes to formatting and freedom as a writer

[merry ibex]

yo dawg we kinda suck

[lucid olive]

wowhead feels more like a janitor job sometimes, like you're updating code to make sure the site doesn't break more than you're actually writing

[upper anvil]

Why dont yo write on icy huh gamz

[lucid olive]

cause @ancient adder hasn't quit yet

[ancient adder]

hello

[upper anvil]

Gamz wants your job

[ancient adder]

big upudate this week

[lucid olive]

huge

[ancient adder]

lotta code jank on iv

[upper anvil]

Maybe sometime the boomie info will turn into just a 1 man job like warriors

[lucid olive]

yeah I've only heard about it from Wordup so haven't got a clue how IV actually works other than what he's said

[upper anvil]

One man writes both wowhead. Icyviens and does Sims and stuff for all 3 specs

[lucid olive]

and he writes for both sites

[ancient adder]

i mean its all drawn from the same source

[lucid olive]

yeah

[ancient adder]

i just hit up beta and verify

before i put up wrong stuff

[lucid olive]

No agi staff this expansion?

[ancient adder]

😏

[upper anvil]

Put up wrong stuff then blame gamz wz

[dull dust]

[ancient adder]

i hate bis lists

[vital hound]

they need to hire

a designer

[lucid olive]

Whenever people say that IV and wowhead are different it's either like something extremely minor that doesn't matter (BIS list differences) or just one being out of date

[ancient adder]

the guide pages ahve been getting steadily more clean

i told them that wowhead is very succinct

which not always a good thing because some ppl want more detail

but its all collapsable

which is nice

[vital hound]

[ancient adder]

so i always pull

off google

[dull dust]

raz super relivant

[ancient adder]

you just do that

[dim solar]

Since we're dumb and dont know how to read, I hope for new Gamz hitting dummies video.

[vital hound]

i wonder what the geo rankings are like for boomkin

[dull dust]

I already asked for a tts gamz button to read me the rotation

wtf

[ancient adder]

i feel people never really go and search off iv

so i dont look at that page i guess

[lucid olive]

Dreamgrove not there??? @jolly delta need better SEO

[ancient adder]

not even page 1

[dull dust]

getting cooked by method

[lucid olive]

thats crazy..

Well at least 2/3 of the pages in that google search are by me..

[dull dust]

are u a method

[lucid olive]

I got the Method guide gig like 2 days before I got the wowhead one

[dull dust]

im realing method is meth and od combined

[upper anvil]

Ah yes realing

[lucid olive]

method is meth

yes

[dull dust]

eh it works

[lucid olive]

wouldnt know

never tried it

[dull dust]

I ment realing

[vapid lance]

is it possible to isolate a debuff icon in combat right now? for ex, say you want to track only one debuff on target from you. I believe the answer is no. It's either show all the debuffs from you on target, or, none

[vital hound]

quit joshing around

[lucid olive]

You can filter out some debuffs but not all

[dull dust]

gamz did u look at the sim i sent

[lucid olive]

Basically can filter out the stuff that Blizzard added to the list of stuff you can filter out

like Sated debuffs

[lucid olive]

which

[vapid lance]

Sated debuffs? ok ill check out that add on, thx

[lucid olive]

no it's not an addon

[dull dust]

the one where it desyncs

[lucid olive]

Sated is the debuff you get after you use Bloodlust/Time Warp etc

[vapid lance]

oh duh right ok. whats the method to filter out specific ones tho?

[lucid olive]

Different addons can filter that one out

You can't

Not unless the debuff is part of the list that Blizzard made un-secret

[dull dust]

that is

infact on the list

[lucid olive]

yes that is what i said

[dull dust]

I read the last 5 words

[vapid lance]

so, only some you can filter out it seems. whats the way to test this out? there some option on blizzard ui?

[lucid olive]

dfferent unit frame addons probably have it somewhere

default blizz ui is dogshit

[upper anvil]

Everything default blizzard is dogshit

[vital hound]

how many levels can i get from professions

one and a bit ye

[tacit oriole]

MAS O MENOS

[lofty depot]

450k xp

[vital hound]

ty

[brave gulch]

@lucid olive hi

[winged moss]

sorry for this silly question. but im playing fury of elune build and im so bad at reading stuff

i read that we DONT use wrath anymore?

[jolly delta]

maybe we need a guide for midnight instead?

[winged moss]

because of that talent that removes it going into solar eclipse

so in single target we use starfire

[slender dragon]

is there any addon for solving dark vessel ??

[nova ocean]

Ya it's called ur brain

[lofty depot]

thers a funny sim that gamz has that says to wrath outside of eclipse

but u could likely just starfire :/

[stone ledge]

Rather be wrathin

[eager raft]

hello

[dull dust]

gamz blew up raidbots

wtf

[loud kettle]

why did gamz do that

[brave gulch]

[cedar seal]

Any News on when and what to craft? 🙂

[lucid olive]

just a bit of banta

[dull dust]

fix it gamz

[winged moss]

gamz?

ahh I SEE

[lucid olive]

[stone ledge]

Too much optimization, 1 wrath out of eclipse too much

[lucid olive]

you want to cast Wrath as a builder when you're not in Lunar or Incarn

cause Starfire takes forever to cast and without Lunar or Incarn to buff it then it's not really worth casting

hm

this gave me another idea

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/Z6hT.gif

[lucid olive]

what if

instead of wrath outside of eclipse

you spam cast moonfire

[lofty depot]

pvper :/

[lucid olive]

okay thats a loss apparently gg

Guess Moonfire dmg not enough to make up for Lunation value

[wild dune]

[lucid olive]

Hmmm

Wonder if the sim behaves weirdly since it's technically casting Wrath with an UE proc perma

Cause you can't consume the proc outside of Eclipse and only inside

[dull dust]

raidbots back up

gamz fixed it

[lucid olive]

Could also just be because of the Arcane Affinity bug

[lofty depot]

nah thats a feature

[royal zenith]

take down raidbots

its stealing peoples job

[loud kettle]

Hate (love) to see it

[potent cargo]

mfw boomy not even 90ker

tragic

[dull dust]

I blame gamz

and me

mostly me

[edgy quarry]

We agree that your sim at 86k is combine with the best stuff and not 230 ivl or something like that ?

[nova ocean]

They just nerf everyone above 90k to 80k and we win

[lofty depot]

well ec isnt hte best so no

[nimble tangle]

what? now even EC has to cast wrath?

tf

[jovial sundial]

Oh im dumb, turns out I do have 3 sparks but the currency tab only shows the 2 normal ones and not the extra

[edgy quarry]

ok mb I misunderstanding what you were saying bellow ^^'

[jolly delta]

[proper mica]

What talents are yall running for ST stuff?

[lofty depot]

well that was a joke but none the less.... sims are made with max gear

[lucid olive]

Link video lmao

[edgy quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-simpson-gif-13518564799186478937

just wanna hide xD

[lofty depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZAAGMlpCwI

5:42 =/= 6

[jolly delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZAAGMlpCwI

(it's just me scrolling through the privacy policy and disabling each advertisment 1 by 1 one because there's no deny all)

[vital hound]

why not 6 minutes gay

you bigot

[dull dust]

yet

[jolly delta]

Fixed

[lofty depot]

mmhm mmhm

[jade flume]

man

warlock kinda pipes

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vVtWTUKbHgsYykFne2s7bB my bishass warlock 6th alt

[dull dust]

ban this guy

[edgy quarry]

what the

[maiden pasture]

w passion

[edgy quarry]

no worries, demono will be destroyed by blizzard soon x)

[jade flume]

Looqsham got shafted, 190 ring and ring wq gives me fkn void marl ggs

[plucky valley]

Is the half spark tied to campgain this week?

[royal zenith]

already does more than max damage bamkin

gg's

raid tuning will save the druid

[delicate perch]

Is bamkin good yet

[lofty depot]

next week forsure

[delicate perch]

Login (next week)

[potent cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/runescape-osrs-grand-exchange-ben-shapiro-greendragonbot-gif-21429580

[kindred token]

🥲

[lunar haven]

No u

[dull dust]

[nova ocean]

Look on the bright side we are almost as good as the worst talent tree of arcane mage

[lucid olive]

don't take those lists seriously

[dull dust]

that list is wrong

[jolly delta]

the apl isnt even done yet

[lucid olive]

that stuff is notorious misinformation

[nova ocean]

I don't but I like throwing gasoline on a fire

[dull dust]

its barely even started

[nova ocean]

I hope blizzard uses it though and over buffs us

[dull dust]

I still hate the eclipse line

one day I'll settle

[nova ocean]

Based off how bad they tune they might

[lucid olive]

they don't use it

[jolly delta]

#balance-theorycrafting channel always empty......

[dull dust]

[lucid olive]

and how do they tune

[nova ocean]

This

[lucid olive]

sigh

[wild dune]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-margarita-ville-stock-market-wheel-headless-gif-17896977

[nova ocean]

I was looking for that one

[jolly delta]

what's with boomkins and having persecution complex

[nova ocean]

Years of pent up frustration and hate

[lucid olive]

it's just gaming in general man

[lofty depot]

after rwf last tier, we were good

[lucid olive]

people imagine game devs as some form of evil villains out to kill your enjoyment of the game

[nova ocean]

I love being good after most of the bosses are dead

[lucid olive]

mental illness is what it is

[nova ocean]

Tds

[lucid olive]

it's a video game it isn't that serious

[lofty depot]

id presume most people were on araz or lower when dimmy was killed

[lucid olive]

log off if it bothers you

[nova ocean]

I don't care about those people

[delicate perch]

I ran the math the spreadsheet is all correct

@vital hound ship it to all discords asap

[potent cargo]

can't wait to be playing feral (demo warlock)

[kindred token]

Is warlock that good?

[wild dune]

warlock is never that bad

[kindred token]

I hate their minions tho

[wild dune]

if u have hands and can place gates, you have a guaranteed raid spot

[lofty depot]

ur guild was also progging araz when dimmy was killed

[lucid olive]

his guild was

not him

[wild dune]

[lofty depot]

i mean sure... my point still stands :/

[potent cargo]

warlock will be stacked

[nova ocean]

That's fake news

[lofty depot]

its not

[potent cargo]

im sure for a few bosses

but not relevant if ur not actually pushing first week-2 anyway

[lofty depot]

ur guild didnt kill araz til 28th... dimmy was dead 23rd

[plain mesa]

how many targets to press starfall at? 2?-

[lofty depot]

2 without procs

[dull dust]

gunna be 1 boss with 5 bumkins

[lofty depot]

u starfall cosmos procs

[dull dust]

watch

[potent cargo]

only boss that'd be would be double dragon

but why bring boomer when u got

destro

[lucid olive]

think moonkin good on Salhadaar

Belo'ren and Chimaerus as well i think

the 2nd downstairs phase on Chimaerus is at 1:10

so right when your 2nd treants+incarn come up at 1:15

Salhadaar has like spread AoE cleave phase into a dmg amp intermission

perfect for Convoke

[dull dust]

balance brought for convoke timers

that'll be the day

[lucid olive]

if it's brought it'll be because of having good cleave and AoE talents without sacrificing ST

thats the main strength

[dull dust]

gamz we should do the tiger fury setup with eclipses

[lucid olive]

only issue is the ST dmg is piss

[dull dust]

[loud kettle]

The single target is sacrificed ahead of time

[lucid olive]

the add spawn on double dragon

holy

1 add for each raid member

you proc 4pc on that and insta Orbit Breaker

[grand crystal]

hey i wanted to ask, is it even worth using the 4th talent point in the apex talents? cus i feel like their jus doing piss dmg and things like umbral embrace would be so much better

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bXsEZ.gif

[potent cargo]

yes

[lofty depot]

u can sim it if u would like

[grand crystal]

ye will do it, lets see if its better

[dense steeple]

ready to raid

[crimson patrol]

Has there been any tier list or projected tier list on how the classes are stacking up? Any information on where Balance is currently sitting performance wise in expectations for Season 1?

[dense steeple]

below half the tanks

[potent cargo]

scroll up 20 lines

maybe 40

[crimson patrol]

Alright.

[delicate perch]

do NOT do that

[potent cargo]

[delicate perch]

imagine being excited about boomkin to come see that

[dense steeple]

where did that number even come from

[delicate perch]

I made it up

[dense steeple]

i fully believe that

[delicate perch]

you can see the raidbots link so they've ran a sim

0% chance all of those are accurate though

[potent cargo]

boomy one p[retty accurate bc we're beans

[delicate perch]

boomy one defs wrong (it should be WAY lower)

[dense steeple]

based

[dull dust]

dw guys im sandbagging our 110k sim

dont tell anyone

[dense steeple]

im trying to figure out how you managed to hit 110k

12 tartget 45 second?

[delicate perch]

season 3 gear 100 target 20s sim

[craggy sonnet]

dude what the hell .. did they disable like all random treasure spawns? i legit cant find anything to farm the prof knowledge items

[glossy jungle]

Turn on war mode

[craggy sonnet]

yea i did

nothing

[glossy jungle]

unluck

[craggy sonnet]

absolute joke of a game ngl

been flying around for over an hour and still missing one

[dull dust]

turn warmode off again

[nova ocean]

Try pulling war mode out and blow on it then put war mode back in

[craggy sonnet]

and then ofc they gotta take the servers down

[dull dust]

they fixing it for u

surely

[jolly delta]

i hope youre in harandar

[flint leaf]

do we craft this week?

[jolly delta]

I dont

I will craft a blue item

[lucid olive]

you craft when you need the damage

[craggy sonnet]

I was for a while .. why?

[jolly delta]

No I mean thats the only zone where it makes sense to farm treasures

[craggy sonnet]

there were pretty much no spawns in any of the zones

[vital hound]

just do vendor exploit ezpz

[glossy jungle]

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/kZ20ynzilQo.gif

[dull dust]

man am I glad it doesn't autoplay

[drifting nova]

it does tho

weewoo

[jolly delta]

tf is this

[wild dune]

is just sparks

[jolly delta]

what sparks

like, I have 2 sparks

separate from this

[wild dune]

oh

uhh

[wild dune]

1 was free

doesnt count on the currency tab

[lucid olive]

yeah its 1 spark a week

and then 1 free spark first week

think its the Midnight World Tour quest one right

[jolly delta]

Wait, is this just

Blizzard having forgotten that they're not doing fractured sparks anymore

[lucid olive]

theyre the same thing

[jolly delta]

Like i think they're talking about half sparks there

[lucid olive]

you just dont have to click 2 halves to make a whole

staves cost 4 sparks as well instead of 2

[jolly delta]

yeye no I know that

looks like they forgot to update tooltip

[dense steeple]

so like i should craft now right

im done with m0 loot

i will not have time to do shit before raid on tuesd

[jolly delta]

what tuesd

[dense steeple]

next tues

[jolly delta]

there's still a week

oh ok

oh right you're already reset in NA

[dense steeple]

i got 3/4 of my last pieces below 240

[delicate perch]

all that to do half the damage of a dh

[dense steeple]

true

[jolly delta]

no wait until vault

[dense steeple]

??

[jolly delta]

Like at least until the 17th

[dull dust]

wait till 30th just to be sure

[upper anvil]

i thought we're able to craft vet gear without spark, but its saying i dont have the reagents?

[delicate perch]

save till after prog to fill out slots you didn't get

[dense steeple]

im not getting loot in raid

[delicate perch]

ur not raiding either bench boy

[jolly delta]

oh

you mean those crafts

[sour rampart]

you can

[upper anvil]

i have the mats and crests but it says i dont

unless i put the sparks in

[dense steeple]

larias doesnt like me

[sour rampart]

you need to select blue items

[delicate perch]

reading do be difficult tbh

[jolly delta]

then yeah blue gear send it

[sour rampart]

its not technically

blue gear

it's 246 vet gear

but the base item is blue

[dull dust]

[dense steeple]

does it matter what slot

[jolly delta]

you're crafting a blue item

it becomes purple

[upper anvil]

i think i have the tism, but im not seeing a blue claok thats not pvp

[dense steeple]

it says embel nvm

[jolly delta]

[weak sedge]

are the talent builds on wowhead good to use or should i use smth different/wait for dreamgrove to update

[jolly delta]

They're good

[drifting nova]

wait you're getting drops?

[weak sedge]

aight so im doing smth wrong then thanks

[delicate perch]

ya you're playing boomkin

[formal crest]

Are people sending their sparks

[nova ocean]

Yup

[formal crest]

Why would you rn lol

[lucid olive]

swag

topping in m0s

[delicate perch]

ilvl rankings are the real test of skill

[formal crest]

Sounds bald

[delicate perch]

just slam a 2h when we get the sparks and call it a day gg

[formal crest]

Is it 4 now

[dense steeple]

yea

[acoustic star]

do balance/resto have a silence/interupt ability?

[delicate perch]

balance does

[drifting nova]

no

[delicate perch]

resto lost theirs I think?

losers

[acoustic star]

whats balance's interupt

[drifting nova]

it's fake

[delicate perch]

solar beam on a 1m cd

[formal crest]

No healer has em anymore. Just r sham. Back to the old days

[jolly delta]

how else am I going to do more DPS than the bear

[drifting nova]

1min cd like it's 2004

[delicate perch]

crafting aint giving you the power of a god

[nova ocean]

And only silences when blizzard feels like it

[formal crest]

Ain’t it 45 now if you talent that bs

[drifting nova]

and hasnt been an aura for a while now

[delicate perch]

yea but you have to kick something instead of pressing it on anything then telling your team you're out of kicks for a minute

[drifting nova]

typhoon sort of works but 90% of mobs are pushback immune

so it doesnt

[formal crest]

Boomie is the only dps without a kick basically

Then they gave locks two of em

[drifting nova]

I've wanted typhoon to have a talent similar to shaman they got a while back

[formal crest]

Glad to see you back and balding

[drifting nova]

for a knockup variant

over a knockback

[jolly delta]

My hair has never been so lush

[true viper]

Grok give me the best talents for m0

[drifting nova]

whats wan got to do with this?

[elder remnant]

Larias guide has "level delves to 8" this week

anyone know if we do 8x tier 8 delves if we get a vault next week or no?

[drifting nova]

you do delves?

[elder remnant]

can someone other than kekkers answer pls

[drifting nova]

woah

fine, do a paper

[elder remnant]

banger thank you

i'm at work so couldn't check

so there really is nothing to do this week

nice

[sour rampart]

yep

just have to do the 7 to unlock them then wait

[potent cargo]

hop on some ghk-cu

legendary hair and skin gains

[dusk mica]

it says unavailable during midnight preseason

[fiery kindle]

hi

[true viper]

Yes bro thank you

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[delicate perch]

Yeah but it says unavailable

[dense steeple]

m0s and cap vet crests

[fiery kindle]

just buff boomkin

[nova ocean]

Best I can do is a 5 percent starsurge buff

[fiery kindle]

not enough

[hollow mist]

just buff boomkin

[fiery kindle]

I want a boomkin like in war within s2

Am I asking for too much?

[lucid olive]

ew

[fiery kindle]

They pass us with just four button presses, it bothers me

[eager raft]

Bro it’s literally unavailable during midnight preseason

[lofty depot]

Well that's the shit version so I disagree

And if u bring up m+ that will only further the correctness of my statement

[nova ocean]

Wrong s2

[kindred token]

@lucid olive I need Youtube guide too, please?

[fiery kindle]

[dense steeple]

@sour rampart ?????

?????????????????????????

[sour rampart]

why are you pinging me

[dense steeple]

IDK WHAT TO DO

[sour rampart]

how many vet crests do you have left

[dense steeple]

all of them

[sour rampart]

do you have a 2h weapon

[dense steeple]

no

[sour rampart]

I would craft bracers/cloak with whatever embellishment is good for you then idk after that, doesnt matter much. could craft pants, could craft 2h staff, could just upgrade vet pieces

[dull dust]

@sour rampart

ur cute

[dense steeple]

idk what embels are even good

we dont have workign sims

[dull dust]

i have failed u

[sour rampart]

[eager raft]

Can’t go wrong with devourer banding

[tacit quest]

I just see myself doing worse damage with similar gear and feel bad

[dense steeple]

not me i cranked in m0s this week

||i was outdpsed by a guy wearing eye of kezan||

[lofty depot]

sim works fine

[dense steeple]

sim me doing 110k

ST

[lofty depot]

i could do that

just make ur mastery like 10k

@wicked shuttle ilvl check

[dense steeple]

havent crafted

[lofty depot]

same

sent adventurer

[dense steeple]

how do you have .5 more bag ilvl

[lofty depot]

the silly renown trinket

[dense steeple]

all of my gear is 240 except one at 237

oh

wait

no

i mean overall

you have .5 more than me

i'm missing 3 ilvl on ONE piece

that is not .56 ilvl overall

[lofty depot]

uhh

hmm true

[delicate perch]

ilvl based on skill

gg soma

[dense steeple]

youre capping somewhere

[lofty depot]

noe clue mayh isnt maything

[dense steeple]

show full char panel

okay you sent vet crests too

[lofty depot]

no

well "sent"

[dense steeple]

your renown hat is 250

[lofty depot]

no

[dense steeple]

you sent crests

[south vine]

Does anyone have a moonfire/sunfire macro that allows mouseover but also just applies to current target if not mouseovering? I had one but I cant seem to get it to work now...,

[dense steeple]

thats sending crests

[lofty depot]

3 champ items

[dense steeple]

can you math

[lofty depot]

yeayea

[lofty depot]

#showtooltip Moonfire
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][@target,harm,nodead]Moonfire

[dense steeple]

wait

howd you do that

[lofty depot]

?

[dense steeple]

did you loot extra 240 champ pieces and smuggle

vet*

[south vine]

Thank you!

[lofty depot]

ye

well its a crest save on champ items

[dense steeple]

didnt even help gear your homies wtf

[lofty depot]

on the contrary

im not even the most geared in my stack

[dense steeple]

im the only one in guild with midnight epic

[lofty depot]

tallanya got every fucking item tonight

but yea, saved crests locken surely

as long as u have uhh 160 next week its fine

[dense steeple]

im gonna spend my vet crafts now

just dont know what to craft

[lofty depot]

its cloak bracer

[dense steeple]

but my bracers have speed

[lofty depot]

technically u only need to craft 1 with embell

cuz u craft 2h

so save some crests get ilvl on an item

[dense steeple]

courtly cloak?

[lofty depot]

sure

[dense steeple]

whats the item called

that i want to craft

[lofty depot]

idk

[dense steeple]

in the cloak slot

[lofty depot]

assume its adherent's silken shroud

[dense steeple]

thats the spark one

bro

[lofty depot]

rekt

[dense steeple]

i want the vet crest 246 cloak

[lofty depot]

uhh

so yea courtly cloak

correct?

no?

[dense steeple]

idk man thats why i asked you lmao

youre supposed to know this shit

[lofty depot]

i dont keep track of crafting

shits cringe

one sec

[delicate perch]

just search it

[lofty depot]

hmm why mine not look like that

oh have to put crest at bottom

[restive jolt]

its blue til u add crests

[dense steeple]

and would it be inting to craft vet pants too?

[elder remnant]

What’s it like being blizzards favourite?

[dense steeple]

i cant even vet smuggle my champ gear like arctic, hes the true favorite

[fiery bough]

we're still holding on craft ya?

[lofty depot]

u will likely craft 2h

crest saves are good >

[fiery bough]

ty ty

[dense steeple]

how good is this embel

[lofty depot]

no clue

[fiery bough]

I thought it was kinda weird looking at the wowhead guide telling me to craft an Oh

[lofty depot]

maybe do that shit this weekend :/

[lofty depot]

thats not what the guide says

[elder remnant]

I got 2 usable pieces from m0 last week

[dense steeple]

i was 240.75 by the end of m0s last week

[elder remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cry-cute-sad-kitty-cat-crying-gif-14001460870807495707

[fiery bough]

you're right im blind

[dense steeple]

this week i only got 3 pieces of uable gear

[sharp trout]

YOOOOOoo question, why doesnt Goldrin track in damage meter? Is the damage added to starsurge per chance or just goofed?

[lofty depot]

its inside surge yes

[sharp trout]

Ahhhhh okay, appreciate the info

[lofty depot]

if u go look at a log its like this

[sharp trout]

Ooh okay I see, thanks so much for the fast reply!

[lofty depot]

yeet

[delicate perch]

lock it in, craft OH asap 👢

[delicate perch]

insane talent

[dense steeple]

i lied to you

[grim crater]

What do ya'll prefer KOTG or EC?

[winter tapir]

kotg

[dire folio]

hey i just got a new pc and am coming back to the game after some hiatus i cannot remember what i had for my rotation/resource tracker it looked similar to this but not quite any clues??