#balance

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lucid olive
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no that sounds cringe as heck

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maybe for EC though

potent cargo
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yk what i mean

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yeah

lucid olive
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or well you cant do that for EC actually

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cause you would need to like eclipse -> eclipse

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and cant cancelaura

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so would need to solar -> starfire -> lunar -> incarn

dull dust
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I did that with going lunar at 80ap and using apex

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was a loss

potent cargo
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would delay burst a lot

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idk just dumb idea

dull dust
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burst still happened at 16seconds

potent cargo
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nah what i was saying is like

dull dust
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double regular yea

potent cargo
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wrath wrath starfire dot dot eclipse starfire wrath eclipse starfire incarn starfire surge surge surge convoke

lucid olive
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whys guy doing moonkin opener while shitting btw

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😭

potent cargo
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prolly overcap

dull dust
potent cargo
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reels kept showing me women instead of

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problematic content

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so i thought about other stuff

dull dust
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also wasting the best part of eclipse probably

lucid olive
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i think an idea for EC could be eclipse -> incarn when eclipse is down -> eclipse -> incarn when eclipse is down

dull dust
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I kinda like it cutting the eclipses in half

lucid olive
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maybe

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when i simmed moons i made it incarn above like 70AP and it was a gain

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could be for FoE as well

dull dust
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moons are so cooked btw

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why is my big moon the worst dpet

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ignore astral power

lucid olive
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cast time

dull dust
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but like

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it should slap

pseudo merlin
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but like include asp in dpet or

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?

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also make moons great again

dull dust
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it doesnt

pseudo merlin
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Mmga

dull dust
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afaik

pseudo merlin
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lame

potent cargo
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if it actually slapped big dam

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too

pseudo merlin
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idk I think moons are so cool

dull dust
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I want big moon gaming

potent cargo
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can't rememb the last time i used it but it was so weak

pseudo merlin
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I just want to always play them

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legion

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when it was free

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and like 1 time in between

potent cargo
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i think jailer

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i used it

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but was just so fkn grim

dull dust
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moon

potent cargo
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ele sham stormkeeper with chain lightning on a bunch of mobs can do like 200k dps

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big moon should be the same

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double the scaling make it uncapped etc

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big ol fuckin bomb

lucid olive
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played moons in DF

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but it was mostly to cycle pulsar and because generators did 0 dmg

dull dust
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gamz did u fix pooling yey

lucid olive
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no i been doing math homework all day

potent cargo
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2+2 is 4 man

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just ask chatbbc

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or wolfram

dull dust
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since ur on the toilet can u math out when we want the first 3 eclipses

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k thx

potent cargo
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im off it now legs went numb

pseudo merlin
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I really hope he's not still on the toilet

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wait you only got off cuz of numb legs

dull dust
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rough go back

pseudo merlin
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or because you were finished

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I just squat over my toilet

potent cargo
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bit of column a bit of columbine

dull dust
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need mid poop clarity

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
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our toilets

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thoughts?

potent cargo
pseudo merlin
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nah this is actually crazy

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We have houses with 1000mbit internet connection but no toilet inside

potent cargo
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You gotta data for india

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or is it just a blank map

pseudo merlin
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blank map

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The only country is the toilet

potent cargo
dull dust
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I have a idea

kindred token
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@pseudo merlin Are you Indian? xD

pseudo merlin
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WOW RUDE

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I am not

dull dust
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are u

pseudo merlin
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Let me double check

dull dust
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Romanian

pseudo merlin
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Yes

sudden pawn
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how do u poop in that

lucid olive
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ravec is the most european guy there is

sudden pawn
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i cant squat im 500 pounds

lofty depot
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he lives next to andrew tate

pseudo merlin
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I'm mister EU worldwide

dull dust
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Holy based

pseudo merlin
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I do actually

dull dust
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can I get his autograph

pseudo merlin
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Or well I did

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I live in Italy now

dull dust
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why

pseudo merlin
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idk

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I like pizza

dull dust
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probably worst place for pizza somehow

lucid olive
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but for real

dull dust
lucid olive
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ravec is romanian, understands swedish, lives in italy, drives german

pseudo merlin
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Yeah but I'm from Amsterdam

lucid olive
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and also is bald

dull dust
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Mr worldwide

potent cargo
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reminds me of the keanu reaves clip

lucid olive
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really is the european pitbull

potent cargo
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where he just opens up on the asian dude

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cant type here it's too racial

pseudo merlin
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haha

dull dust
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are druids all euro

pseudo merlin
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yes

lofty depot
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no

dull dust
potent cargo
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everyone is euro when u really go back in time

pseudo merlin
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real

dull dust
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nah i spawned on mars

kindred token
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lol

lucid olive
potent cargo
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I can't wait for when martians come

lucid olive
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afaik rats are native in every continent

potent cargo
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the slurs for aliens will be unreal

dull dust
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imagine not being from Antarctic

lucid olive
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i miss pulsar

pseudo merlin
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same

lofty depot
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bring me back

dull dust
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I don't know what that is

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but i miss it too

lofty depot
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spend 600 asp get ca proc

dull dust
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oh skb from wish

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nice

lofty depot
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if u had ca already it would extend it

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u could prep pulsar prepull

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and if u were gamer get 2 in that window

dull dust
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pi magnet

lucid olive
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don't forget @meager storm holding that shit for 22 seconds on Smolderon to wait for the phase

lofty depot
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nodders

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lol i randomly played moons on volcross

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no clue why

vital hound
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shitty splash damage on roots

lofty depot
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@subtle sail why u do no dam dawg

subtle sail
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im cranking bro

craggy sonnet
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watch the tomato video

stoic fog
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Press Force of Nature if you do not have an active Eclipse and you can overlap with either Solar Eclipse or Incarnation: Chosen of Elune

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What does that even mean?!

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i thought you were supposed to line everything up

lucid olive
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that is what that means

stoic fog
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See this is why I hate the wording

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of WowHead and Icyveins..they write like they're trying to impress their english professor

lofty depot
lucid olive
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if you have a simpler way i can write it then i'm all ears

lofty depot
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can u locken

stoic fog
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I understand that as DONT use trees during eclipse and use it AFTER IIncarn

lucid olive
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why

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thats why force of nature is above incarnation in the list

subtle sail
stoic fog
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Why not just press "force of nature"

craggy sonnet
craggy sonnet
stoic fog
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Even AI is completely misinterpreting it because it's not clear

craggy sonnet
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?

stoic fog
craggy sonnet
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i have no clue how you read it as what you said earlier

lucid olive
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does that mean my guide passed the turing test

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i take that as a w honestly

craggy sonnet
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the AI got it btw

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thats correct

lucid olive
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yeah the AI understood it

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xddddd

stoic fog
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omg i'm even more confused now

craggy sonnet
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you are just not smart enough to understand what AI said either

lucid olive
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should have had better english professor

stoic fog
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I still think it reads very confusing

craggy sonnet
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ask if it can lay it out to you in simple language

stoic fog
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well i'm cooked

lucid olive
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yeah i can agree with you and i'm not averse to changing it

stoic fog
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can you summarize it again what is the correct method? So I'm supposed to not using trees during eclipse?

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or use trees during eclipse

lucid olive
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you want to use treants before your eclipse and not during one

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that means you either hold treants for up to 15 seconds or you sit on a charge of eclipse

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or you overlap treants with incarnation which is more common

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now that we play 1 minute treants it usually goes like
0.00 eclipse + potion
0.15 treants+incarn+trinket
0.35 eclipse
0.50 eclipse
1.05 treants+incarn
1.25 eclipse
1.40 eclipse
2.00 treants+incarn+trinket

stoic fog
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okay THAT is way easier to comprehend.

lucid olive
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its only at 3 minutes where you dont have incarn available that you want to eclipse

stoic fog
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thank you

lucid olive
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ofc theres some variables in the timers

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depending on when you use the first set of treants

stoic fog
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is that opener or is that just priority list

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that looks like an opener

lucid olive
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well thats just the timers

stoic fog
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ah k

lucid olive
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i was typing out an opener but thatd just be more confusing

sharp lintel
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brain is fried

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how do i turn off this automatic lunar eclipse

potent cargo
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dont play ec

sharp lintel
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can u tell me what ec stands for please

potent cargo
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elunes chosen

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hero talent

sharp lintel
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thank you

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is ec meta?

potent cargo
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for what

sharp lintel
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like in general

potent cargo
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no

sharp lintel
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omg wtf elune's chosen is the hero talents??

dull dust
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elune chose me not u

sharp lintel
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lol what the heck so strange

wild dune
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what the helly

dull dust
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what tf

lucid olive
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i also expanded the opener part since it's changed

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nvm i had to add the Starfire at the end

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@dull dust what do you think isnt it beautiful

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14 step opener after Midnight class pruning

rose garnet
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no convoke sadge

kindred token
lofty depot
dull dust
kindred token
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#3 needs more explantion I think

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xD

dull dust
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do we put the refresh sunfire before incarn

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mabey requires more testing

lucid olive
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no i should add that

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increasing the step count by 1

dull dust
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i have a few more opener ideas

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does eclipse delete itself on pull

lucid olive
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dont think so

lofty depot
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if trinket there, lose dam

lucid olive
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not changing my macro

lofty depot
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SMH

dull dust
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why lose dam

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where trinket go

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ah i gotta use overrides for precombat eclipse

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fuck sake

lucid olive
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he's saying trinket should be on treants before incarn because theres a slight delay to the mastery increase if you're insta sending starsurge on the same global

dull dust
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oh

dense steeple
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imagine not having 2 characters at 240 ilvl in week 1 pepe_chad

dull dust
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i dont even have a druid at 90

lucid olive
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we'll see where you're at in 3 weeks when you're done 10 m+ dungeons and already burnt out

dense steeple
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i have to maintain both characters, i will burn out for sure

lofty depot
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u fuck

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mastery 200ms

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cant press with incarn

dull dust
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i deffinitly remember that

dull dust
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then forgot instantly

lofty depot
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it doesnt give mastery for ur bolts

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is reason

lofty depot
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boring talent

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incarn fun

delicate perch
dense steeple
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4 dungs

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ez

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i think we only do 2 weeks of splits

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so i wont be hard pressed on char 2 after that

dull dust
lofty depot
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ur not a knower

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but u doing damage > stupid channel

dull dust
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im THE knower

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(yes i smell)

dense steeple
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i have big brained every spec guide in the game and can now craft everyones bis

sour rampart
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alright

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i did my world tour of dungeons

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augmentation evoker is fun in keys

lofty depot
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who

sour rampart
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finish that sentence

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see what happens to you

lofty depot
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asked

lofty depot
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need to find new joke

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u knew that one :/

potent cargo
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did you crank as aug

sour rampart
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lol

dull dust
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kill him larias

sour rampart
potent cargo
dull dust
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nerf aug

sour rampart
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aug is kinda nuts

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plus fun to play

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like really enjoyed playing it

dull dust
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im telling my contacts at blizzard

sour rampart
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chancel you dont have contacts at your local dairy queen, not to mention blizz

dull dust
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wym they let me in the ambassador disc

lofty depot
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anyone can join that

dull dust
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prove it

lofty depot
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ur in it

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proven

dull dust
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thats messed up

lofty depot
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i have so many man

dull dust
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i wish i had many men

lofty depot
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this fuckign guy is trying to ragebait

dull dust
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should add more lines

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gimme 3 hours

potent cargo
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@lucid olive ur gonna cook ppls heads with those mini icons and shit i think

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like even im getting fried

dull dust
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whats the gear for

lucid olive
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you hover over them

potent cargo
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so you're not surging if you double proc twin eclipse or w/e it is

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or you are

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idek

dull dust
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should add the alternitive as a line under

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and hit it crazy style with 15 lines

lucid olive
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i can make more of them and have a toggle

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can add a simpler one tbh

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and then that one behind a toggle maybe

potent cargo
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maybe its just like "opener" and then "opener explained" or some shit

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explaining why you pressing things in the ope

lucid olive
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yeah can do that too in a drop down

lofty depot
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i heard this guide was meant for the aotc raider

dull dust
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u should be a good audience then

lofty depot
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who the fuck are u

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post logs

lofty depot
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aintttttttttt

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noooooooooooo

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fuggn way

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u on the floor from the 2nd plat pushback?

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like every other mage i know

dull dust
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i hit the bouncy castle p3 crazy style

lofty depot
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lol

spring cradle
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I'm so confused about lunar calling

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Do I just spam Starfire on single target now instead of wrath?

lofty depot
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yes

spring cradle
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Does Wrath serve any functionality? notlikemeow

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Or is it basically just a keeper spell now

lucid olive
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yes

lofty depot
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u could cast it if u didnt have asp and wouldnt finish a starfire in time of some movement

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big minmax surely

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(basically useless yes)

spring cradle
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Wild design choice from blizzard

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But alright thank you

lucid olive
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why

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just dont take that talent then innit

lofty depot
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its not a choice node silly

spring cradle
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It should be

lofty depot
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it was

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and the other option wasnt used

lucid olive
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its still in a choice node

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this one

spring cradle
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It's not

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Oh lol

lofty depot
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nice

spring cradle
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honestly im tempted to go keeper just so the class makes more sense

lucid olive
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which is in this choice node

lofty depot
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what doesnt make sense?

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u spam cast starfire

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its legit not hard

spring cradle
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No it isn't hard, I just think it detracts from the gameplay a lot

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I wanna use both cycles

lofty depot
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what gameplay

spring cradle
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Keeper is the way I guess

lofty depot
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if u want to use both cycles u play keeper

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they want differing identies for each hero talent so thats what they chose

sour rampart
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so good

lofty depot
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fuggn guy

dull dust
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sorry ily

lofty depot
teal sphinx
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@delicate perch you 246 ilvl yet?

delicate perch
teal sphinx
delicate perch
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have to catch up on rep stuff

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  • get traded gear
teal sphinx
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yea i only have the trinket i think and im like 226?

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my wep is ass

delicate perch
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surely I get more drops on wed

dusk spear
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When using elune hero talents, do you ever wrath in your rotation?

patent zephyr
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So I'm just picking up Balance. I have a very dumb question that I'm getting confused on. I get that with single target in Eclipse I want to be casting as many Starsurge/Starfalls as possible. The question I have is do I want to spam Starfall until out of AP or do I cast Starfall then Starsurge to prevent capping and Starfire to build AP?

obtuse jungle
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cedabec, the way it works, its you want to spend as most as possible when you have all the bonus up, when you have around 5 seconds of eclipse left, you kinda want to build up your AP from there, and end around 60-80 if possible so you can enter eclipse right behind it 🙂 hope that kind of make it clear or so, but also remember every situation is different depending on the pack and if he is about to die or no

patent zephyr
# obtuse jungle hope that helps you a bit

So repeated casts are okay for it? Not worried about munching the time it is active? That was the heart of my question, but otherwise, your information helps quite a bit.

patent zephyr
# obtuse jungle hope that helps you a bit

Coming to your start building during the last 5 seconds or so, does that also mean I’ll want to cast Wrath to get more casts out during that small window regardless of pack size?

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Thanks for the help and info thus far.

obtuse jungle
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wrath become useless or so

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in single target you mean raid or dungeon ?

nimble tangle
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KOTG yes wrath

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EC only starfire

wicked shuttle
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@lofty depot ilvl check

stone ledge
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239 gg

lofty depot
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i have 4 more m0s on alt tho

lofty depot
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also m0s for 7 days who cares

wicked shuttle
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238

stone ledge
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it means i play more valorant

wicked shuttle
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You not armor stacked?

lofty depot
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i stacked for main

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but i tanked a cloth group on alt

wicked shuttle
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Garyyeet gg

lofty depot
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might level that one tomorrow

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but garyuhyuh

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need 4 more m0s on alt

stone ledge
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garymid inc

lofty depot
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what the

stone ledge
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buffs inc

lofty depot
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garytop

stone ledge
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100 parse boomkin = 30 parse bear

lofty depot
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i told group we should 5 tank and see whats good

stone ledge
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5 tank is based

lofty depot
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regrowth aka lay on hands

stone ledge
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t rue

lofty depot
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assuming u think starfall cant be stacked (it can)

teal sphinx
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gave 224 wep, now im cooking

lofty depot
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I heard u quit

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But now ur playing

teal sphinx
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you are like 6 months behind the times old man

teal sphinx
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forgot to use crests

restive jolt
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... smh

gray topaz
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My ass is sitting at 236 but I’m stuck with 198 bracers and a 214 cloak

grave folio
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ANy1 who can help me with what the best build for m0 and mid range keys is?

nimble tangle
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why am i so shit

royal zenith
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law of attraction

nimble tangle
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also is Vessel of Tortured Souls a bait trinket

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soul is so small

wicked shuttle
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Moonkin just always kinda sucks in M0’s and low keys

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Damage happens way too fast

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Mushrooms are good

grave folio
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Aight, so like do you play elune or keeper for dungeon content?

wicked shuttle
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Elune

grave folio
iron pagoda
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hello

jade flume
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Hi

iron pagoda
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how are you?

jade flume
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Im chilling homie, hyped for bamkin buffs in 2 weeks

jaunty blaze
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so real

fickle swift
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Regarding touch of the cosmos and weaver, could you explain the correct order of using procs.
And if you play weaver with EC is there a target count you don't send the surge in aoe and just keep starfiring?

Sorry if dumb questions

obsidian jetty
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no idea about weaver EC, I will not be playing starfire spammer

fickle swift
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So if I'm in ST/raid scenario and I have both procs up, I should do surge into starfall then?

Unless I have a starweaver proc on starfall then I should use that one first instead to consume it since using the cosmos starsurge might just override the old starweaver proc? Or do I misunderstand

obsidian jetty
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Yes, spend the weaver first. You don't want to waste a proc

fickle swift
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Okay thank you

fringe plover
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Hi there everyone, just a quick question regarding different builds. Was just looking at the Tettles guide video from 9 days ago and the displayed builds differ to the ones on Wowhead, especially for M+, e.g. Tettles having "Wild Mushrooms" skilled while the gamz guide didn't. Which one would be prefered or is it mostly just to taste?

vale pebble
fringe plover
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alright tyvm

wispy parrot
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crafting rn is stupid yes?

jaunty blaze
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unless you want to waste crests yes

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and they might still tune embellishments so we dont know what will be good yet

potent cargo
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like why rush into it now

wispy parrot
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i just had to double check ms if im right

potent cargo
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put it this way ye

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hardest content rn is not being bored shitless due to nothing to do

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after that it's leveling from 88-90 when you get outscaled

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probs no crafting until mythic week

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see what shit drops from normal/heroic, what juice you get from vault, prolly even first night of mythic raid just to see if you get a wep or something from boss ykyk

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so ye chill for now

misty vapor
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Hello, is there any info on when the dreamgrove website will be updated ?

wispy parrot
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thanks @potent cargo just like to double check and dont do stupid shit

jaunty blaze
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as to a specific date that only gamz can tell you

potent cargo
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got some shit to figure out first im sure

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b4 dg updated

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unless u want misinfo

jolly delta
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for sure before s1

grand crystal
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hey can some1 help me with a macro? /castsequence Bear Form, Frenzied Regeneration is the current one. wanna have one that shifts me into bear and casts regeneration after the gcd

lost violet
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Voidstorm trinkets sims WAY less for all of my characters, anyone know if its broken in sim or if its straight up garbage? blue adventure trinkets 237 sims 600-800 more dps on atleast my warrior-hunter and druid even tho the sim might not be correct as mentioned

jolly delta
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who the fuck

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came up with this garbage abundance

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tik tok ahhh event

lost violet
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free stuff and chill, only bad thing about it according to me is making the zone lagg...

void jacinth
lofty depot
jolly delta
lost violet
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so Maybe its broken in Sim? but if its not i will replace with any blue thing, even the drum world quest one is way better

potent cargo
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Blizz devs off the Bart

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These capstone event things are fkn rinsed

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Can’t even imagine casuals will like this shit

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Preys literally just world quests reskinned

lone root
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Prey system fuckin sucks

lofty depot
calm siren
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is the 2 stack incarnation bugged? i seem to have 2 stacks but 2 min reload time for each

lofty depot
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That's how charges work

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They're not independent charges either

lone root
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Prey told me to go kill rares (gl find one), do world quest (nothing left to do), open chest (already open all for rep), and do the prey expedition, then fly blindly in the full area dodging tree branch while looking for a small red crystal (that end up being an orb btw ?). Peak design

calm siren
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it should have 1min cd for each, shouldnt it?

lofty depot
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Why would it be 1m

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CA is 3m

lone root
lofty depot
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Well no

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Whirling makes it 2m

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As does OS

calm siren
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ah alright, then theres a translation error in german client 😄 It says it reduces the cooldown to 60 seconds. not by 60

lofty depot
calm siren
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thanks for the clarification 🙂

lone root
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Could swear it was 2 mins back in the dinosaur days but must be copium

lofty depot
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I mean it's possible but that's not now

lofty depot
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Unforch

calm siren
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so its the same like in tww, right?

lofty depot
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Well it was reduced to 100s in tww

calm siren
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so it got nerfed in comparison? Instead of 100s we now got 120second cd? i swear it feels different

lofty depot
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Correct

calm siren
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oh, what a bummer 😄

lofty depot
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If u want more, they nerfed cdr potent

#

Fixed control bug tho

jaunty blaze
#

just out of curiosity

calm siren
jaunty blaze
#

yeah it does say that

#

silly blizzard

lofty depot
#

German L more like

pseudo merlin
#

kekw

calm siren
pseudo merlin
#

This is why you stop dubbing

#

and consume content in original language

lofty depot
#

Took another 10s off of the cd

calm siren
#

ah thats where the 90 vs 100 came from 😄

lofty depot
#

Mmhm

calm siren
#

was this live in prepatch as well or did they change that recently?

lofty depot
#

Uhh prepatch

#

Basically last tier u could gain a bunch of damage by choosing correct talent based on the exact kill time.

drifting nova
#

am I blind or is there only 1 delve in eversong

jaunty blaze
#

1 in eversong and 1 in silvermoon if you want to count these areas as one

drifting nova
#

o, silly its not on the overmap

zealous hound
#

Hey
read on icyveins/wowhead about balance druid and watched some guides, but i was just left woundering 1 thing that i wasnt 100% sure of in the guide.
-with elune as hero talent: Do we use wrath on 1-3 and starfire 4+ OUTSIDE of eclipse ? cause i wasn't sure if that part of the guide had only keeper of grove in mind that doesn't use the lunar calling talent.

wicked shuttle
#

You only starfire with lunar calling

drifting nova
#

not having wrath on bars feels weird

lofty depot
#

so put it on ur bars

drifting nova
#

thats worse

#

if it never gets pressed

#

now I have a hole on 3

lofty depot
#

soooo when i set up my character...... regardless of hero talent, i just leave my buttons the same

drifting nova
#

ok but it literally does nothing

lofty depot
#

ec never used trees... so E was trees for keeper and woe for ec right

#

well it does nothing if u dont play other aspects of the game

drifting nova
#

wanted green wrath back

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now no wrath

lofty depot
#

more like took wrath out back

zealous hound
#

Aight thanks for fast answers lads ❤️

jolly delta
#

kekkers do you want a house in the dg neighbourhood

drifting nova
#

SuspiciousChicken no

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I'd upstyle you too hard

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(I dont have a house)

#

idk how the house stuff works either so

tacit quest
#

Is it possible to track dots on boss frames?

drifting nova
#

isnt harandar where the xavius fight was way back when

drifting nova
tacit quest
#

weird, it hasnt been woprking for me

drifting nova
wheat crown
#

is it EC ST ?

tacit quest
#

like when you're fighting a dungeon or raid boss, their bars come upp on the right

wheat crown
#

im beating ppl in my 0s in ST with EC

tacit quest
#

separate from your target frames

wheat crown
#

doing 40-50k ST

drifting nova
wheat crown
#

yea the leather stack my guild ran was Brew - WW- DH - Boomkin- Rdruid

lofty depot
#

ur leather stack should be brew, mw, dh, bear, bear

drifting nova
#

gear stackers dont have hands so

#

unluck

jade flume
void jacinth
#

...oh wait VerySadCat

red nymph
#

will this spec be saved by set bonuses or is this a buff waiting room situation?

jaunty blaze
#

need to wait for the tuning pass

lofty depot
#

its actually bad that set bonus is big

upbeat plaza
#

Elunes or KOTG is dealing more dmg now in m0 ?

lofty depot
#

bear

#

ec p good in bear, yeayea

patent zephyr
# lofty depot what do u think ur munching

In the cooldown manager after casting Starfall it shows a 7 or 8 second duration ( at least that's how I'm interpreting it ) of the spell being active and I thought repeated casts would munch the remainder of the time of activation, or reset the active time for the spell. If that's not how it works then great! I'm coming from Resto Sham to now Resto Druid since my group now has 2 other Resto Shams and they can't play any other class for healing. So I'm trying to make sure I'll be useful if I need to swing into a DPS role as I prefer range (and suck at melee in general) . Appreciate all the info shared so far.

Sounds like I don't need to worry about it and if I have AP just go ahead and cast the Starfall in AOE.

For reference I am playing KOTG as I understand that playstyle a little bit more.

drifting nova
lucid olive
#

tracking it in the CDM is useless

drifting nova
#

..but how

#

you dont have enough power

drifting nova
#

ever

drifting nova
lofty depot
#

and each stack is independent

drifting nova
#

starfall overlaps

lucid olive
#

it's not possible to hit

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but that's where it caps

drifting nova
#

so how do you know the cap

lucid olive
#

spelldata innit

lofty depot
#

cuz the funny dataminer

drifting nova
#

wanna guess 4 were possible once but idk

lucid olive
#

kekkers was afk for undermine apparently

drifting nova
#

literally

#

I took that patch off

patent zephyr
#

Thank you. @lucid olive @lofty depot that makes a lot more sense... Appreciate the insight.

drifting nova
#

shame as the area and raid seemed cool

#

that was the "I'll find an early myth guild patch"

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then gave up and just unsubbed

lucid olive
drifting nova
#

did the set reduce starfall cost or

lucid olive
#

no you played bounteous bloom

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generated 207 AP over 10 seconds when treants are active

drifting nova
#

..eww kotg

#

even if I did play undermine

#

I still wouldnt of seen that

lucid olive
#

it was just played for that boss

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cause the boss spawned shitton of adds that were all spread around the room

lofty depot
#

jsut wait til next tier when u play ac and eg

native wharf
#

some stixx bunkjunker action

lucid olive
#

and you had to break a shield on 4 of them or something or else they blew up

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so moonkins just saved every CD for it and carried that part

#

and you had the opportunity to do it cause the main mechanic on the boss let you damage him

drifting nova
#

its 88 I hand in delve quests right

#

wtf do I do til then

lucid olive
#

80-81 go kill Siren Isle elites or Cinderbrew bee elites (idk if this was fixed)

drifting nova
#

almost 86 so

#

just did all the delves

lucid olive
#

81-88 pick a zone and do campaign and sidequests

drifting nova
#

..eww campaign

lucid olive
#

88 do all delves and hand in all delve quests

drifting nova
#

not again

lucid olive
#

89 do professions

drifting nova
#

I had hoped the skip was 80 not 90

#

so cringe

#

let me do sojourner aaa

lucid olive
#

well don't have to finish campaign, just mindlessly quest

#

pay for restedxp guide and you can turn brain off and finish sojourner

lofty depot
drifting nova
#

just dumb you cant see half the quests til campaign is done

drifting nova
#

with the mirrors

#

so slow

lucid olive
#

I think some of the new delves are cool

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but I really hate the Silvermoon open one

#

mainly because I forgot I was in a delve and tried to fly to Eversong

jaunty blaze
drifting nova
#

oh and the botany one in the lil zone

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with the bombs

sturdy pumice
#

theres a ZA one where you can kitty stealth through a ton of it

drifting nova
#

the za on the edge one was pretty fast, hiding from the loa

jade drift
#

never give up

#

pray for next changes

lofty depot
#

what u need changes for

#

ur not even playing the game :/

stuck willow
#

Any way to have a similar thing on the side of your character showing what eclipse your in and timers like before midnight?

sharp karma
#

Cool down manager addon works

#

Shows to the right with a timer

lofty depot
#

well it does that natty

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it just doesnt stay there the whole eclipse

#

if u wanna track eclipse u do it through the cdm

stuck willow
#

I know we can track it trough cdm, but is there a addon or similar where we can see eclipse like the picture i sent? Like it use to be and in prevous versions of wow before midnight

lucid olive
#

not really no

#

you can probably make an addon to do it, but you would have to hard code the graphics to show up for 15 seconds after you press the corresponding Eclipse for it

#

and then also have both show up when you press CA or Incarn

#

the other option is to use the two buff tracking methods blizzard provide you, which are either by icon or in a bar

maiden pasture
#

GG

drifting nova
#

a what now

dense steeple
fathom blade
#

so bascily we used starfall to consume TTC even in st right ?

lucid olive
#

yes

fathom blade
#

ty sir

drifting nova
#

that feels wrong

#

and I wont do it

#

brain no computey

fathom blade
#

Tunning is comming

lofty depot
#

yea for bear

lucid olive
#

whos tunning

lofty depot
#

ur gonna be in the pits still

fathom blade
drifting nova
#

arms hopefully

#

let me hit

#

leave this birdless beast in the gutter

quartz locust
#

details before was not reseting after enter each dungeon?

tacit oriole
#

Doesn’t when it’s m0 for some reason.

drifting nova
#

details is broke so

wild dune
drifting nova
tacit oriole
#

Unless somehow the option for it to auto reset got unchecked after joining a group/raid

lucid olive
#

minimal functionality cause blizzard made everything secret and added their own dmg meter

drifting nova
#

...thank you imgur, very cool

lucid olive
#

so whatever behavior your details profile had in the past is entirely just gonna be whatever blizzard lets you do

drifting nova
#

I just miss being able to change your name

#

and it actually tracking

#

and it having 400 more functional parts to it

fathom blade
#

@lucid olive if im not wrong, we are not playing nature's balance, how can i dump all my 3 AE stacks here ?

lofty depot
#

by pressing the button 3 icons down

lucid olive
#

you want to spend all 3 ascendant eclipse stacks and then build AP before using cooldowns

#

then you Sunfire before cooldowns

#

Whether that means you end up sending at 8 seconds, 10 seconds or 15 seconds kinda depends how many spender procs you get in that window

fathom blade
#

kk i see ty

#

The apl on raidbots quick sim is not up to date right ?

lucid olive
#

correct

#

but the APL that is up is more than good enough to make gearing decisions in top gear

#

the quick sim sample sequence is also not a guide or benchmark for how to play your character

fathom blade
#

yeah yeah ikr

#

last question , here do you press the eclpise before cd ? like eclipse -> spend AE stacks, build AP -> Press incarn + trees ?

lofty depot
#

yes

fathom blade
#

kk go it

#

ty

lofty depot
#

well i suppose its the opener

#

if its not...

fathom blade
#

its the second incarn after the opener

lofty depot
#

u likely held a eclipse somewhere

#

did u eclipse after said incarn

#

u would then trees ca

#

but ur late on that number right now

#

sunfire before incarn, then go

lucid olive
#

i wrote this yesterday to someone as well but

#

now that we play 1 minute treants it usually goes like
0.00 eclipse + potion
0.15 treants+incarn+trinket
0.35 eclipse
0.50 eclipse
1.05 treants+incarn
1.25 eclipse
1.40 eclipse
2.00 treants+incarn+trinket

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with the variable being your first send of treants+incarn+trinket

nimble tangle
#

Can we ping this?

lucid olive
#

no

nimble tangle
red nymph
#

lol

lucid olive
#

when the raid is out you'll be able to look at logs anyway

#

and that is a rough outline

nimble tangle
#

What is log

lucid olive
#

since the only things you want to do before your first cooldown is Eclipse on pull (to get Eclipse on cooldown) and spend the apex talent buffs (or else they're wasted when you press incarn) and then build enough AP + spender procs to be able to send 3 spenders as your first 3 casts in cooldowns

dull dust
loud kettle
#

I love the next person that posts in here

drifting nova
loud kettle
#

bad rng but ill take it

dull dust
jaunty blaze
#

😭

delicate perch
red nymph
sudden flame
#

hi

dull dust
sharp trail
#

Hello! Is Wowhead talents accurate for mm+ ? I hit like dogsvit 😅

lofty depot
#

well ur not doing mm+

sharp trail
#

Mm0 sorry 😅

lofty depot
#

boomkin small dam

maiden pasture
#

M+ has longer pulls, so the build for that content isnt suited for m0s

lofty depot
#

play bear and carry

maiden pasture
#

m0s u can run more bursty aoe dam like mushrooms and the fast damage starfall talent

#

but the spec just sucks, even more so in m0 style content

sharp trail
#

Ok thanks.. and with the Wowhead spec I just Starfire and Starfall even in St right ?

lofty depot
#

theres probably 2 wowhead builds

#

the EC one u press starfire regardless of target count

#

starfall is aoe vs st

sharp trail
#

Oh so in ST I don't use it even with EC ? Alright thanks !!

lofty depot
#

unless ur playing weaver

#

u dont press starfall in st

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

?

delicate perch
#

37k is barely a flex when your team has no hands 😰

maiden pasture
#

flexing 37k is crazy work

delicate perch
dense steeple
lofty depot
#

???

#

these people crazy

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

mmhm

dense steeple
#

they are the carry

#

arctic is doing his xpac mandated community service

delicate perch
#

Do you ever think before you type

loud kettle
#

they forgot to log on

dense steeple
#

no

delicate perch
#

It shows

dense steeple
#

why would i think before i type

#

its more fun this way

delicate perch
dense steeple
#

dont ever compare arctic with that sick ass pokemon again

#

thats an insult to beartic

delicate perch
#

You just defended him???

#

What a switch up

lofty depot
#

nice guy

dense steeple
#

yeah but i didnt insult a pokemon in the same breath

delicate perch
#

It’s a 6/10 looks 0/10 power gg

#

Mid at best

dense steeple
#

his beard is made of frozen snot

#

thats sick as fuck

lofty depot
#

WTF

dense steeple
#

big ass polarbear gonna beat yo ass

delicate perch
dense steeple
#

ay if any of you are on A52 buy my engineering housing decor(your mats of course)

sharp trail
#

Do you guys know some items that haves a special effects on bopmkin form ?

delicate perch
#

What do you mean by that

#

Like astral form glyph

#

Or items that change your character like the oil or shiny dust

drifting nova
#

noggenfogger

#

even a toy now I think

#

sad I cant get it

delicate perch
drifting nova
#

mb I can but think its like renown 18

drifting nova
lone turret
#

tried mushroom + meteor and it works fine

sharp trail
#

Like there is a pole arm that have a cool animation when in Starfall forms

lofty depot
#

what works fine

dull dust
#

when do i press starfall in st

drifting nova
#

never

dull dust
lofty depot
drifting nova
#

it does aoe damage, silly

dull dust
#

I can't read it im dyslexic I am listening to tts

#

unfort

drifting nova
#

listen to it then

#

open your lugholes

dense steeple
#

typical mage cant read

dull dust
#

I can't there's no play button to have gamz read it to me on the page

drifting nova
#

there is, he made a video

dull dust
#

did he?

drifting nova
#

you dont have that?

dull dust
#

I don't no

drifting nova
#

inner circle only, unluck

delicate perch
#

T3 subs only

dull dust
drifting nova
#

need to do hard time to gain access

#

he even has a swedish option for you

sharp trail
#

So you don't know specific transmog that interacts weirdly with glyphes of star ? Like the pole arm from tlk that does a big board on the back ?

dense steeple
#

blizzard really killed most of the fun interactions a long time ago

#

saves snity to not try to look for anything

sharp trail
#

Sadge

dense steeple
#

@sour rampart can you make a dark mode version of your guide this shit is killing me

sour rampart
#

i tried

#

this is what it looks liek

#

google publish

dense steeple
#

god i hate google

sour rampart
#

doesnt allow you to do darkmode

#

on the outside

#

so it just looks worse

lofty depot
#

cuz my shit work

sour rampart
#

ye thats what most people use

dense steeple
#

give extension please

sour rampart
#

this is my extension

dense steeple
#

ahve i topld you how i fucking hate that option

#

in snipping tool

lofty depot
#

is either dark reader or google docs dark mode

#

idk what larias uses

dense steeple
#

okay thats better

#

ty

sour rampart
#

I might recommend it on my guide lmao

dense steeple
#

google docs dark mode

sour rampart
#

ty

potent cargo
#

oh you're that larias

#

👀

#

what brought you to this forsaken place

sour rampart
#

@lofty depot

#

I like to watch arctic get trolled

dull dust
#

uwu larias kun

sour rampart
dull dust
#

least ur not posting "shut the fuck up chancel"

#

like mage guys

potent cargo
#

boomies are too tall and jacked to be that mean to ppl who are nice

drifting nova
#

wtf is this bs

dull dust
meager storm
#

W

potent cargo
#

blizz cd manager

#

buff tracking

drifting nova
#

we're in the dark ages

sour rampart
#

this is true

maiden pasture
#

you can use ACDM to customise how it looks but that just works off the back of what blizzard allows you to track through their cd manager

sour rampart
drifting nova
#

whys it daily lockout now

lofty depot
sour rampart
#

because blizz is making it a daily lockout on the 17th

drifting nova
#

but why

sour rampart
#

is this why every single person in this discord tells me not to talk to you

drifting nova
#

they too stupid

#

are you?

dull dust
maiden pasture
sour rampart
#

yep

potent cargo
#

u just use cdm and place it somewhere u can see

sour rampart
potent cargo
#

works well

lofty depot
maiden pasture
#

fr tho

dull dust
#

im gunna be 220 and change

drifting nova
#

but m+ starts 17th

sour rampart
#

M+ starts the 24th

drifting nova
#

but why

lofty depot
#

can u change the icon of the proc?

craggy sonnet
#

i think you can do that now with arcui btw

lofty depot
#

well im not using that grr

craggy sonnet
#

why not

maiden pasture
lofty depot
#

o

maiden pasture
#

You would have to custom add the icon in the add-on files

hazy zenith
#

guys, what is the best build for m0?

#

i have this

lofty depot
#

press n play bear

hazy zenith
lofty depot
#

both are gonna have problems cuz u do 15% less damage than everyone

dull dust
#

doomer

#

be a believer

lofty depot
#

spec does 15% less damage with tier... the fuck u think it does without it

dull dust
#

tag mobs then die

#

gotta prep for the slingshot

#

17th we get overbuffed

#

trust

lofty depot
#

yea totally

dull dust
#

mage will get overnerfed so u will look good in comparison

lofty depot
dull dust
#

community perception

loud kettle
#

Mage nerfs are always ok

dull dust
#

its probably like top 4 classes but like the step from 3 to 4 is pretty big

craggy sonnet
#

hello mister chancel, have we found some big dam?

loud kettle
#

trick is to press n select guardian

lofty depot
#

tragic

potent cargo
#

im tellin u the double proc eclipse before cds is at least 500 dps

#

they did not believe jesus when he spoke

craggy sonnet
#

also .. why is this back in pms again .. smh my head

lofty depot
#

huh

craggy sonnet
#

share with the class

#

dumdum

dull dust
#

it was the thing the other day

#

about moon

craggy sonnet
#

uhh

lofty depot
#

we out here gaining too much asp from many things

craggy sonnet
#

oh

#

unfortunate

dull dust
#

I've decided pooling is for nerds btw

#

for my sanity

#

if someone else can get it to be good that's awesome but I've tried for like 25hours now

#

(I wish that was a joke)

lofty depot
#

even mages cant save boomkin

#

can confirm

dense steeple
#

theres nothing more tilting to me right now

#

than the fact that i am the only druid main on the raid team

#

cause i want out for the first time in 20 fuckin years lmao

dull dust
#

that's how she goes

dense steeple
#

been a boomkin since 2006

#

and now i want to be anything else

lofty depot
#

NO GETTING OUT

dense steeple
#

save my fuckign spec man