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or well you cant do that for EC actually
cause you would need to like eclipse -> eclipse
and cant cancelaura
so would need to solar -> starfire -> lunar -> incarn
nah what i was saying is like
double regular yea
wrath wrath starfire dot dot eclipse starfire wrath eclipse starfire incarn starfire surge surge surge convoke
prolly overcap
probably the best place to think about druid
reels kept showing me women instead of
problematic content
so i thought about other stuff
this some 5d chess type shit
also wasting the best part of eclipse probably
i think an idea for EC could be eclipse -> incarn when eclipse is down -> eclipse -> incarn when eclipse is down
maybe
when i simmed moons i made it incarn above like 70AP and it was a gain
could be for FoE as well
cast time
it doesnt
Mmga
afaik
lame
idk I think moons are so cool
I want big moon gaming
can't rememb the last time i used it but it was so weak
I just want to always play them
legion
when it was free
and like 1 time in between
moon
ele sham stormkeeper with chain lightning on a bunch of mobs can do like 200k dps
big moon should be the same
double the scaling make it uncapped etc
big ol fuckin bomb
played moons in DF
but it was mostly to cycle pulsar and because generators did 0 dmg
gamz did u fix pooling yey
no i been doing math homework all day
im off it now legs went numb
rough go back
bit of column a bit of columbine
need mid poop clarity
crazy autocorrect
intentional 
nah this is actually crazy
We have houses with 1000mbit internet connection but no toilet inside


I have a idea
@pseudo merlin Are you Indian? xD
are u
Let me double check
Romanian
Yes
how do u poop in that
ravec is the most european guy there is
i cant squat im 500 pounds
he lives next to andrew tate
I'm mister EU worldwide
Holy based
I do actually
can I get his autograph
why
probably worst place for pizza somehow
but for real

ravec is romanian, understands swedish, lives in italy, drives german
Yeah but I'm from Amsterdam
and also is bald
Mr worldwide
reminds me of the keanu reaves clip
really is the european pitbull
haha
are druids all euro
yes
no

everyone is euro when u really go back in time
real
nah i spawned on mars
lol
i think arctic is 100% american
I can't wait for when martians come
afaik rats are native in every continent
the slurs for aliens will be unreal
imagine not being from Antarctic
i miss pulsar
same
bring me back
spend 600 asp get ca proc
if u had ca already it would extend it
u could prep pulsar prepull
and if u were gamer get 2 in that window
don't forget @meager storm holding that shit for 22 seconds on Smolderon to wait for the phase
@subtle sail why u do no dam dawg
watch the tomato video
Press Force of Nature if you do not have an active Eclipse and you can overlap with either Solar Eclipse or Incarnation: Chosen of Elune
What does that even mean?!
i thought you were supposed to line everything up
that is what that means
See this is why I hate the wording
of WowHead and Icyveins..they write like they're trying to impress their english professor
less than bear
if you have a simpler way i can write it then i'm all ears
can u locken
I understand that as DONT use trees during eclipse and use it AFTER IIncarn
guardian goes insane bro LOL
Why not just press "force of nature"
ask your english prof
true
Even AI is completely misinterpreting it because it's not clear
?
i have no clue how you read it as what you said earlier
omg i'm even more confused now
you are just not smart enough to understand what AI said either
should have had better english professor
I still think it reads very confusing
ask if it can lay it out to you in simple language
yeah i can agree with you and i'm not averse to changing it
can you summarize it again what is the correct method? So I'm supposed to not using trees during eclipse?
or use trees during eclipse
you want to use treants before your eclipse and not during one
that means you either hold treants for up to 15 seconds or you sit on a charge of eclipse
or you overlap treants with incarnation which is more common
now that we play 1 minute treants it usually goes like
0.00 eclipse + potion
0.15 treants+incarn+trinket
0.35 eclipse
0.50 eclipse
1.05 treants+incarn
1.25 eclipse
1.40 eclipse
2.00 treants+incarn+trinket
okay THAT is way easier to comprehend.
its only at 3 minutes where you dont have incarn available that you want to eclipse
thank you
ofc theres some variables in the timers
depending on when you use the first set of treants
well thats just the timers
ah k
i was typing out an opener but thatd just be more confusing
dont play ec
can u tell me what ec stands for please
for what
like in general
no
omg wtf elune's chosen is the hero talents??
elune chose me not u
lol what the heck so strange
what the helly
what tf
is this better
i also expanded the opener part since it's changed
nvm i had to add the Starfire at the end
@dull dust what do you think isnt it beautiful
14 step opener after Midnight class pruning
no convoke sadge
I need more details lol
TRINKET wrong

dont think so
if trinket there, lose dam
not changing my macro
SMH
why lose dam
where trinket go
ah i gotta use overrides for precombat eclipse

fuck sake
he's saying trinket should be on treants before incarn because theres a slight delay to the mastery increase if you're insta sending starsurge on the same global
oh
imagine not having 2 characters at 240 ilvl in week 1 
i dont even have a druid at 90
we'll see where you're at in 3 weeks when you're done 10 m+ dungeons and already burnt out
i have to maintain both characters, i will burn out for sure
u were in the channel
u fuck
mastery 200ms
cant press with incarn
i deffinitly remember that
no
then forgot instantly
bro will not fill vaults during for prog
4 dungs
ez
i think we only do 2 weeks of splits
so i wont be hard pressed on char 2 after that
lies and slander
i have big brained every spec guide in the game and can now craft everyones bis

who
did you crank as aug
lol
kill him larias
i cranked as aug, i was top dps on pulls on details just from self damage lmao

nerf aug
im telling my contacts at blizzard
chancel you dont have contacts at your local dairy queen, not to mention blizz
anyone can join that
prove it
thats messed up
i have so many man
i wish i had many men
this fuckign guy is trying to ragebait
@lucid olive ur gonna cook ppls heads with those mini icons and shit i think
like even im getting fried
theyre tooltips
whats the gear for
you hover over them
so you're not surging if you double proc twin eclipse or w/e it is
or you are
idek
i can make more of them and have a toggle
can add a simpler one tbh
and then that one behind a toggle maybe
maybe its just like "opener" and then "opener explained" or some shit
explaining why you pressing things in the ope
yeah can do that too in a drop down
i heard this guide was meant for the aotc raider
u should be a good audience then
aintttttttttt
noooooooooooo
fuggn way
u on the floor from the 2nd plat pushback?
like every other mage i know
i hit the bouncy castle p3 crazy style
lol
I'm so confused about lunar calling
Do I just spam Starfire on single target now instead of wrath?
yes
yes
u could cast it if u didnt have asp and wouldnt finish a starfire in time of some movement
big minmax surely
(basically useless yes)
its not a choice node silly
nice
honestly im tempted to go keeper just so the class makes more sense
which is in this choice node
No it isn't hard, I just think it detracts from the gameplay a lot
I wanna use both cycles
what gameplay
Keeper is the way I guess
if u want to use both cycles u play keeper
they want differing identies for each hero talent so thats what they chose
fuggn guy
sorry ily

@delicate perch you 246 ilvl yet?
think im like 228 

When using elune hero talents, do you ever wrath in your rotation?
no
no benefit
So I'm just picking up Balance. I have a very dumb question that I'm getting confused on. I get that with single target in Eclipse I want to be casting as many Starsurge/Starfalls as possible. The question I have is do I want to spam Starfall until out of AP or do I cast Starfall then Starsurge to prevent capping and Starfire to build AP?
cedabec, the way it works, its you want to spend as most as possible when you have all the bonus up, when you have around 5 seconds of eclipse left, you kinda want to build up your AP from there, and end around 60-80 if possible so you can enter eclipse right behind it 🙂 hope that kind of make it clear or so, but also remember every situation is different depending on the pack and if he is about to die or no
hope that helps you a bit
So repeated casts are okay for it? Not worried about munching the time it is active? That was the heart of my question, but otherwise, your information helps quite a bit.
Coming to your start building during the last 5 seconds or so, does that also mean I’ll want to cast Wrath to get more casts out during that small window regardless of pack size?
Thanks for the help and info thus far.
@lofty depot ilvl check
239 gg
236, 235... u?
i have 4 more m0s on alt tho
this just means people cna trade me gear next week

also m0s for 7 days who cares
238
it means i play more valorant
You not armor stacked?
Garyyeet gg
garymid inc
what the
buffs inc
garytop
100 parse boomkin = 30 parse bear
i told group we should 5 tank and see whats good
5 tank is based
regrowth aka lay on hands
t rue
what do u think ur munching
assuming u think starfall cant be stacked (it can)
you are like 6 months behind the times old man
... smh
My ass is sitting at 236 but I’m stuck with 198 bracers and a 214 cloak
ANy1 who can help me with what the best build for m0 and mid range keys is?
law of attraction
Build is roughly the same that’s good for high keys
Moonkin just always kinda sucks in M0’s and low keys
Damage happens way too fast
Mushrooms are good
Aight, so like do you play elune or keeper for dungeon content?
Elune
Cheers, thank you
hello
Hi
how are you?
Im chilling homie, hyped for bamkin buffs in 2 weeks
so real
Regarding touch of the cosmos and weaver, could you explain the correct order of using procs.
And if you play weaver with EC is there a target count you don't send the surge in aoe and just keep starfiring?
Sorry if dumb questions
weaver get's consumed first, so you just use it
no idea about weaver EC, I will not be playing starfire spammer
So if I'm in ST/raid scenario and I have both procs up, I should do surge into starfall then?
Unless I have a starweaver proc on starfall then I should use that one first instead to consume it since using the cosmos starsurge might just override the old starweaver proc? Or do I misunderstand
Yes, spend the weaver first. You don't want to waste a proc
Okay thank you
Hi there everyone, just a quick question regarding different builds. Was just looking at the Tettles guide video from 9 days ago and the displayed builds differ to the ones on Wowhead, especially for M+, e.g. Tettles having "Wild Mushrooms" skilled while the gamz guide didn't. Which one would be prefered or is it mostly just to taste?
both talents are close they dont really matter
alright tyvm
crafting rn is stupid yes?
unless you want to waste crests yes
and they might still tune embellishments so we dont know what will be good yet
what reason would u ever have to craft
like why rush into it now
i just had to double check ms if im right
put it this way ye
hardest content rn is not being bored shitless due to nothing to do
after that it's leveling from 88-90 when you get outscaled
probs no crafting until mythic week
see what shit drops from normal/heroic, what juice you get from vault, prolly even first night of mythic raid just to see if you get a wep or something from boss ykyk
so ye chill for now
Hello, is there any info on when the dreamgrove website will be updated ?
thanks @potent cargo just like to double check and dont do stupid shit
that info is in the pins
as to a specific date that only gamz can tell you
not soon
for sure before s1
hey can some1 help me with a macro? /castsequence Bear Form, Frenzied Regeneration is the current one. wanna have one that shifts me into bear and casts regeneration after the gcd
Voidstorm trinkets sims WAY less for all of my characters, anyone know if its broken in sim or if its straight up garbage? blue adventure trinkets 237 sims 600-800 more dps on atleast my warrior-hunter and druid even tho the sim might not be correct as mentioned
free stuff and chill, only bad thing about it according to me is making the zone lagg...
I'd use my fingers for this tbh
They just nerfed it, clearly it was too op
i feel like I'm not zoomer enough
even before the nerf its simmed 400 less dps then all 3 random m0 trinkets i got during world tour
so Maybe its broken in Sim? but if its not i will replace with any blue thing, even the drum world quest one is way better
Blizz devs off the Bart

These capstone event things are fkn rinsed
Can’t even imagine casuals will like this shit
Preys literally just world quests reskinned
Prey system fuckin sucks
It's the same wq, over and over
is the 2 stack incarnation bugged? i seem to have 2 stacks but 2 min reload time for each
Prey told me to go kill rares (gl find one), do world quest (nothing left to do), open chest (already open all for rep), and do the prey expedition, then fly blindly in the full area dodging tree branch while looking for a small red crystal (that end up being an orb btw ?). Peak design
it should have 1min cd for each, shouldnt it?
Always been 2 on incarn
ah alright, then theres a translation error in german client 😄 It says it reduces the cooldown to 60 seconds. not by 60
thanks for the clarification 🙂
Could swear it was 2 mins back in the dinosaur days but must be copium
I mean it's possible but that's not now
so its the same like in tww, right?
Well it was reduced to 100s in tww
so it got nerfed in comparison? Instead of 100s we now got 120second cd? i swear it feels different
Correct
oh, what a bummer 😄
can you post a screenshot of that
just out of curiosity
German L more like
kekw
what exactly did they change? You still get the 15 second grace period for not using the cooldown. What other cdr effects have been present in the past?
Took another 10s off of the cd
ah thats where the 90 vs 100 came from 😄
Mmhm
was this live in prepatch as well or did they change that recently?
Uhh prepatch
Basically last tier u could gain a bunch of damage by choosing correct talent based on the exact kill time.
am I blind or is there only 1 delve in eversong
1 in eversong and 1 in silvermoon if you want to count these areas as one
o, silly its not on the overmap
Hey
read on icyveins/wowhead about balance druid and watched some guides, but i was just left woundering 1 thing that i wasnt 100% sure of in the guide.
-with elune as hero talent: Do we use wrath on 1-3 and starfire 4+ OUTSIDE of eclipse ? cause i wasn't sure if that part of the guide had only keeper of grove in mind that doesn't use the lunar calling talent.
You only starfire with lunar calling
not having wrath on bars feels weird
so put it on ur bars
soooo when i set up my character...... regardless of hero talent, i just leave my buttons the same
ok but it literally does nothing
ec never used trees... so E was trees for keeper and woe for ec right
well it does nothing if u dont play other aspects of the game
more like took wrath out back
Aight thanks for fast answers lads ❤️
kekkers do you want a house in the dg neighbourhood
no
I'd upstyle you too hard
(I dont have a house)
idk how the house stuff works either so
Is it possible to track dots on boss frames?
isnt harandar where the xavius fight was way back when
...yes? it is by default
weird, it hasnt been woprking for me
?
is it EC ST ?
like when you're fighting a dungeon or raid boss, their bars come upp on the right
im beating ppl in my 0s in ST with EC
separate from your target frames
doing 40-50k ST
do they have hands?
yea the leather stack my guild ran was Brew - WW- DH - Boomkin- Rdruid
Yes
Stack dn
will this spec be saved by set bonuses or is this a buff waiting room situation?
need to wait for the tuning pass
its actually bad that set bonus is big
Elunes or KOTG is dealing more dmg now in m0 ?
In the cooldown manager after casting Starfall it shows a 7 or 8 second duration ( at least that's how I'm interpreting it ) of the spell being active and I thought repeated casts would munch the remainder of the time of activation, or reset the active time for the spell. If that's not how it works then great! I'm coming from Resto Sham to now Resto Druid since my group now has 2 other Resto Shams and they can't play any other class for healing. So I'm trying to make sure I'll be useful if I need to swing into a DPS role as I prefer range (and suck at melee in general) . Appreciate all the info shared so far.
Sounds like I don't need to worry about it and if I have AP just go ahead and cast the Starfall in AOE.
For reference I am playing KOTG as I understand that playstyle a little bit more.
before or after minecraft
You can have 20 independent Starfalls out at once
tracking it in the CDM is useless
starfall stacks
ever
overlaps*
and each stack is independent
starfall overlaps
yeah, 20 is the hard cap
it's not possible to hit
but that's where it caps
so how do you know the cap
spelldata innit
cuz the funny dataminer
wanna guess 4 were possible once but idk
kekkers was afk for undermine apparently
Thank you. @lucid olive @lofty depot that makes a lot more sense... Appreciate the insight.
shame as the area and raid seemed cool
that was the "I'll find an early myth guild patch"
then gave up and just unsubbed

xddddd
did the set reduce starfall cost or
no you played bounteous bloom
generated 207 AP over 10 seconds when treants are active
it was just played for that boss
cause the boss spawned shitton of adds that were all spread around the room
jsut wait til next tier when u play ac and eg
some stixx bunkjunker action
and you had to break a shield on 4 of them or something or else they blew up
so moonkins just saved every CD for it and carried that part
and you had the opportunity to do it cause the main mechanic on the boss let you damage him
80-81 go kill Siren Isle elites or Cinderbrew bee elites (idk if this was fixed)
81-88 pick a zone and do campaign and sidequests
88 do all delves and hand in all delve quests
not again
89 do professions
well don't have to finish campaign, just mindlessly quest
pay for restedxp guide and you can turn brain off and finish sojourner
go farm delve gogogogog
just dumb you cant see half the quests til campaign is done
the light one is by far my least favourite
with the mirrors
so slow

I think some of the new delves are cool
but I really hate the Silvermoon open one
mainly because I forgot I was in a delve and tried to fly to Eversong

theres a ZA one where you can kitty stealth through a ton of it
the za on the edge one was pretty fast, hiding from the loa
Any way to have a similar thing on the side of your character showing what eclipse your in and timers like before midnight?
well it does that natty
it just doesnt stay there the whole eclipse
if u wanna track eclipse u do it through the cdm
I know we can track it trough cdm, but is there a addon or similar where we can see eclipse like the picture i sent? Like it use to be and in prevous versions of wow before midnight
not really no
you can probably make an addon to do it, but you would have to hard code the graphics to show up for 15 seconds after you press the corresponding Eclipse for it
and then also have both show up when you press CA or Incarn
the other option is to use the two buff tracking methods blizzard provide you, which are either by icon or in a bar
Use ACDM, put it in its own buff group, add a custom image
GG
a what now

so bascily we used starfall to consume TTC even in st right ?
yes
ty sir
yea for bear
whos tunning
ur gonna be in the pits still
404 not found for 2 xpac
details before was not reseting after enter each dungeon?
Doesn’t when it’s m0 for some reason.
details is broke so
-20% ms. +20% slam, +5% aura
rather send myself to hell, slam surviving pruning is terrorism
Unless somehow the option for it to auto reset got unchecked after joining a group/raid
details is basically just a skin now
minimal functionality cause blizzard made everything secret and added their own dmg meter
so whatever behavior your details profile had in the past is entirely just gonna be whatever blizzard lets you do
I just miss being able to change your name
and it actually tracking
and it having 400 more functional parts to it
@lucid olive if im not wrong, we are not playing nature's balance, how can i dump all my 3 AE stacks here ?
by pressing the button 3 icons down
the Starsurge/Starfall and Wrath kinda go hand in hand
you want to spend all 3 ascendant eclipse stacks and then build AP before using cooldowns
then you Sunfire before cooldowns
Whether that means you end up sending at 8 seconds, 10 seconds or 15 seconds kinda depends how many spender procs you get in that window
correct
but the APL that is up is more than good enough to make gearing decisions in top gear
the quick sim sample sequence is also not a guide or benchmark for how to play your character
yeah yeah ikr
last question , here do you press the eclpise before cd ? like eclipse -> spend AE stacks, build AP -> Press incarn + trees ?
yes
its the second incarn after the opener
u likely held a eclipse somewhere
did u eclipse after said incarn
u would then trees ca
but ur late on that number right now
sunfire before incarn, then go
i wrote this yesterday to someone as well but
now that we play 1 minute treants it usually goes like
0.00 eclipse + potion
0.15 treants+incarn+trinket
0.35 eclipse
0.50 eclipse
1.05 treants+incarn
1.25 eclipse
1.40 eclipse
2.00 treants+incarn+trinket
with the variable being your first send of treants+incarn+trinket
Can we ping this?
no

lol
when the raid is out you'll be able to look at logs anyway
and that is a rough outline
What is log
Ty sir
since the only things you want to do before your first cooldown is Eclipse on pull (to get Eclipse on cooldown) and spend the apex talent buffs (or else they're wasted when you press incarn) and then build enough AP + spender procs to be able to send 3 spenders as your first 3 casts in cooldowns

I love the next person that posts in here

bad rng but ill take it

😭
"bad" you got kekkered
savage
hi

Hello! Is Wowhead talents accurate for mm+ ? I hit like dogsvit 😅
well ur not doing mm+
Mm0 sorry 😅
boomkin small dam
M+ has longer pulls, so the build for that content isnt suited for m0s
play bear and carry
m0s u can run more bursty aoe dam like mushrooms and the fast damage starfall talent
but the spec just sucks, even more so in m0 style content
Ok thanks.. and with the Wowhead spec I just Starfire and Starfall even in St right ?
theres probably 2 wowhead builds
the EC one u press starfire regardless of target count
starfall is aoe vs st
Oh so in ST I don't use it even with EC ? Alright thanks !!
Where’s the carry
?
37k is barely a flex when your team has no hands 😰
flexing 37k is crazy work

do you see the DH?
“Team with no hands” yes
mmhm
Do you ever think before you type
no
It shows
They probably spent 100% active time keeping beartic alive
dont ever compare arctic with that sick ass pokemon again
thats an insult to beartic
nice guy
WTF
big ass polarbear gonna beat yo ass


ay if any of you are on A52 buy my engineering housing decor(your mats of course)
Do you guys know some items that haves a special effects on bopmkin form ?
What do you mean by that
Like astral form glyph
Or items that change your character like the oil or shiny dust

mb I can but think its like renown 18
I dont work for the FBI, sorry
tried mushroom + meteor and it works fine
Like there is a pole arm that have a cool animation when in Starfall forms
what works fine
when do i press starfall in st
never

read the guide silly
it does aoe damage, silly
typical mage cant read
I can't there's no play button to have gamz read it to me on the page
there is, he made a video
did he?
you dont have that?
I don't no
inner circle only, unluck
T3 subs only

So you don't know specific transmog that interacts weirdly with glyphes of star ? Like the pole arm from tlk that does a big board on the back ?
blizzard really killed most of the fun interactions a long time ago
saves snity to not try to look for anything
Sadge
@sour rampart can you make a dark mode version of your guide this shit is killing me
god i hate google
have u considered getting an extension?
cuz my shit work
ye thats what most people use
give extension please
this is my extension
which one did you pick
I might recommend it on my guide lmao
ty
uwu larias kun
they're all virgins
boomies are too tall and jacked to be that mean to ppl who are nice
wtf is this bs

boomies are too tall and jacked to be that mean to ppl who are nice
W
we're in the dark ages
you can use ACDM to customise how it looks but that just works off the back of what blizzard allows you to track through their cd manager
whys it daily lockout now
u and everyone else
because blizz is making it a daily lockout on the 17th
but why
is this why every single person in this discord tells me not to talk to you

wtf?XD did they make a blue post about this that i missed or
u just use cdm and place it somewhere u can see
works well
246 mythic week or get out
fr tho
but m+ starts 17th
but why
whats it called
can u change the icon of the proc?
i think you can do that now with arcui btw
well im not using that 
why not
Ayije cdm
o
You would have to custom add the icon in the add-on files
press n play bear
both are gonna have problems cuz u do 15% less damage than everyone
spec does 15% less damage with tier... the fuck u think it does without it
yea totally
mage will get overnerfed so u will look good in comparison
why is mage getting nerfed kek
community perception
Mage nerfs are always ok
hello mister chancel, have we found some big dam?
trick is to press n select guardian
were actually over simming
tragic
im tellin u the double proc eclipse before cds is at least 500 dps
they did not believe jesus when he spoke
why dis?
also .. why is this back in pms again .. smh my head
huh
uhh
I've decided pooling is for nerds btw
for my sanity

if someone else can get it to be good that's awesome but I've tried for like 25hours now
(I wish that was a joke)
theres nothing more tilting to me right now
than the fact that i am the only druid main on the raid team
cause i want out for the first time in 20 fuckin years lmao
NO
NO GETTING OUT
save my fuckign spec man














