#balance

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normal pilot
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legion had moons has a short cd, now you have eclipse as a short cd

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it's not really much diff

pseudo merlin
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bfa was whack a mole STF/wrath procs

wary tendon
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^ I liked that as well

pseudo merlin
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I hated nothing more than BFA

lofty depot
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....

pseudo merlin
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What's that private server called where you can mix and match class abilities

lofty depot
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id suggest not making ur opinions public

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bfa was ass

pseudo merlin
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should go play that version of wow and frankenstein your boomkin like that

lofty depot
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the only thing good was the added aoe to empowerments

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if they took those to legion gameplay it would be peak

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but outside of that specific 1 thing.... ass

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i forgot moons was 20s

pseudo merlin
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yup

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goated af

lofty depot
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bring me back

wary tendon
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Yeah If we had legion boomkin plus the aoe on empowers

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Would have a field day

lofty depot
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ok u cant just agree with me after i said ur opinions are shit

wary tendon
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But I said I wanted legion boomkin.

pseudo merlin
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Give me stackable starfall with SD, 20s moons and the solar version of EC

wary tendon
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I liked bfa but im not saying like it was the best. There’s def a lot wrong with it.

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With the new changes though I would wish eclipse wasn’t on the gcd

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But we know how that goes now

lofty depot
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nah make starfall cd... then make surge extend it

pseudo merlin
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you'd end up with a 1x stack dmg sf that youre extending

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no shot that's worth

wary tendon
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Well back to original thing. Have you been running ec or keeper for you m0

pseudo merlin
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sf would need to not stack then

lofty depot
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well yea, but u could cast in it

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i didnt say it wouldnt stack

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lock in

pseudo merlin
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during burst shit out 5 starfalls and then maintain the stack with SS?

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🤑

lofty depot
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yeayeayeyeayea

loud kettle
lofty depot
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THATS WHAT IM SAYING

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
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true

kindred token
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@lucid olive Did you play new race yet?

lucid olive
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yeah i just hit 90 on it

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idk if its good or not lol

kindred token
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Nice, how is it?

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I find it weird

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xD

lucid olive
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night elf looks better

kindred token
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Agree

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🙂

lucid olive
kindred token
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lmao

lofty depot
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trenchcoat man

kindred token
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I have same for like every druid too lol

dense steeple
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3 dungeons left

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im 236

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why am i getting stacked

coral shell
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Anyone know why I only have 1 spark on an alt?

quiet drift
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can trade anything

snow elm
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what percent of starfall dmg is meteorites

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does it do dmg on every tick on every mob?

lofty depot
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meaning u need to talk to the dude in the inn to skip the campaign quest

dense steeple
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still 2 more dungeons

lofty depot
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need u in my groups next week

ripe slate
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bro casually has 10 ilvl on me (ive done m0s)

dense steeple
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dont worry im still doing no damage

lofty depot
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dont care about that

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ill tank

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i do dam

lone root
dense steeple
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chonky char

lone root
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Thanks

dense steeple
quiet drift
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I think my group dropped like 5 or 6 mail shoulders

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we had 2 mail users

dense steeple
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leather stack

pseudo merlin
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why are their hp bars glitching

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are you summoning Missingno?

dense steeple
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we were in combat

blissful flare
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Is boomie performing?

lone root
potent cargo
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Boomy is performative

delicate perch
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it shows up if you scroll down far enough

pseudo merlin
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The whole moonkin vibe is anything if not perfomative

blissful flare
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Cool

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I guess I’m doing it wrong

pseudo merlin
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Don't judge the spec before the game has any content

delicate perch
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don't let ravec gaslight u

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bamkin sux

pseudo merlin
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I will not join your sandbagging, I need someone to keep me company here at the bottom

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we're in this together

blissful flare
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In this together! Let’s go!

lucid olive
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@pseudo merlin which one next

pseudo merlin
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dk or voidman

lucid olive
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yeah fuck it i level dh

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but i play havoc cause thats superior on the fun scale

pseudo merlin
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yeah probably true

abstract parrot
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havoc rocks that spec is so fun

lofty depot
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level mage cuz frost is giga

abstract parrot
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ddh is good too

normal pilot
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why is it gaumgz that doesn't fit the pattern

pseudo merlin
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outcast just like the dracthyr

dense steeple
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so wait do i just send adventurer crests

pseudo merlin
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they cap at 237

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so i would say yes

lucid olive
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so i just had to rename

dense steeple
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@sour rampart should i just send adventurer crests because theyre useless?

pseudo merlin
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I love how Larias is basically chatGPT

dense steeple
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this is the way

dense steeple
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brother i have 3 items that can use them

sour rampart
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ok well first of all

lofty depot
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send them dork

sour rampart
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fuck you

dense steeple
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what could i possibly need them for

sour rampart
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but

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second of all

glacial steeple
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No enchants? Must be broke

sour rampart
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yes: they dont matter

no: you can use them to convert up when turbo boost comes kekW

dense steeple
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turbo boost is like 500 years away wtf

pseudo merlin
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smh..

dense steeple
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im sending them

sour rampart
pseudo merlin
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turbo is also after the game is over

quiet drift
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long term thinking

lofty depot
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turbo boost, i would rather u care they are converting to gold

sour rampart
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i mean really

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adventurer dont matter at all

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veteran don't Really matter

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but you want to save 160 veteran to craft embellishments

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so

lofty depot
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veteran dont matter cuz ur not getting verteran items anyway to do the tech

sour rampart
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insane week 1 loot luck

dense steeple
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truly

sour rampart
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hey you meet my teams ilvl requirement for 14 days from now

lofty depot
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m0s during season start that way

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soooooo like maybe

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but i aint spamming that

sour rampart
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they go champion on the 17th though

lofty depot
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yea ik

ripe slate
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tww style

sour rampart
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god I remember putting that in my guide

dull dust
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prob shouldve been either champ the whole time or daily vet rn at least

sour rampart
ripe slate
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do we know what ilvl the crafted pvp stuff is this time

ripe slate
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if its around 240 its still good idea unironically

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socket big stat

lucid olive
ripe slate
sour rampart
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i will never tell people to pvp

loud kettle
ripe slate
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ive been farming honor for the pvp cata heroic week xd

sour rampart
# loud kettle cheater

they went through every discord posting their ilvl like they're that larias guy doing a PR tour for his guide

loud kettle
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that larias guy is so annoying with that

sour rampart
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shut up chancel

dull dust
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cant believe him

cloud citrus
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omg chancel is in this discord

dull dust
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i own this place

lucid olive
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unfortunately

loud kettle
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wow is that the chancel

cloud citrus
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glad they nerfed your pulse

sour rampart
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abandon all hope

dull dust
sour rampart
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chancel timed out for 1 week in wyrmrest

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rip

dull dust
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im a chicken now

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am i

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damn i had to check

sour rampart
dull dust
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i havnt shitposted in there in like a few days

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mabey they took it personally

dense steeple
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good night friends

pseudo merlin
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you've been doing it all day

dull dust
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in wyrmrest

pseudo merlin
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oh sorry

pseudo merlin
leaden birch
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are m+ trinkets just so garbo for us this season that some of them aren't even on the wowhead list lmao

lucid olive
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maybe

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which ones though

leaden birch
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lightspire core

lucid olive
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not in m+

dull dust
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im gunna unlock 90k soon

lofty depot
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dont worry i got my bis

dull dust
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dont tap the glass

leaden birch
dull dust
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read the pins

maiden ember
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why can't i shift into moonkin form

lucid olive
dull dust
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u can only ge it at champ

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poopy

lucid olive
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thats not true or

normal pilot
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maybe it's so good you use the m0 version

lucid olive
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doesnt seasonal m0 start when they go up to champ

dull dust
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oh can u not go do the things

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ive never gone todo m0s after

lucid olive
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i think they limit the dungeon to normal when its not seasonal

dull dust
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oof

lucid olive
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maybe heroic, but think they made heroic seasonal back in TWW

leaden birch
viscid scarab
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hey guys do u know how I can dissappear that vortex + typhoon? it shows twice

lofty depot
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are u tracking it twice in different section?

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u should dissappear that wrath, starfire, surge, and starfall while ur at it

viscid scarab
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I just downloaded a free UI pack, do u recommend another better than this?

lofty depot
sudden pawn
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these things are no joke...

stone cairn
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That better have been worth it

viscid scarab
lofty depot
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what part

viscid scarab
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still tracking wrath, sunfire, etc

lofty depot
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assume u downloaded an edit mode

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and not a cdm

dull dust
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guys prep for the slingshot

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lockin

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we will get overbuffed

lofty depot
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"we"

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has a level 80 druid

dull dust
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emotionally we

lofty depot
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yeet

dull dust
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i would level it ut the more i look at this the less i want to

lofty depot
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boomkin will be fun

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lock in

dull dust
quiet drift
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Emotional support theorycrafter 🐐

dull dust
kindred token
lofty depot
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guys we have a mobile bench now

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new tech new tech

jaunty blaze
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Hoooly

safe veldt
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Alright, sorry new here, Im struggling rn, looking to get into Mythic dungeons and potentially raiding after a long hiatus from WoW, would Elune's or Keeper be better and why? most guides online just contradict eachother and vouch for both

lucid olive
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Keeper of the Grove for raid and Elunes Chosen for m+

safe veldt
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Thanks Gamz, any good elune's to check out specifically?

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I saw the link above pinned, would that be a good one to follow ?

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Would this info also be relevant as of the most recent patch

lofty depot
safe veldt
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nice thanks @lofty depot

royal zenith
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What build allows me to deal dps within 2 seconds @lucid olive

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They vaporate before I can cast my 2second long starfire

jaunty blaze
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Bummers

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Just be faster

royal zenith
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Do I stack more haste???

potent cargo
gaunt ruin
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Haste-mastery, crit, versa in this order

jaunty blaze
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Did the vibes tell you that

gaunt ruin
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Actually mastery-haste

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The vibes of wowhead

normal pilot
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did you ask grok if that's true maybe it's not

gaunt ruin
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The wowhead guide was made by gamz

loud kettle
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Make sure to clarify to grok to make no mistakes in its answers

jaunty blaze
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I will ponder my orb over it for a while

kindred token
lucid olive
vale pebble
# gaunt ruin Also

idk how i missed this, sir have you read what this information even is?

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spoiler its at the bottom of your screenshot

quiet drift
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What data even is that

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Beta?

jaunty blaze
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It says beta m+ yes

vale pebble
potent cargo
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wowhead bating ppl

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wrong stats gg gamz

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mods force him to play zandalari troll

quiet drift
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Noooo my tsandalari

royal zenith
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which loa did you pick @quiet drift ?!

quiet drift
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The crit one

royal zenith
vale pebble
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paku mate

distant oasis
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hey guys, im a bit lost, just join the discord and the two talent build from IV and Wow head are different, any suggestions ?

vale pebble
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not matter much anyways

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talent close

jade flume
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It doesnt matter(we're trash)

vital hound
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looq you're strong

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ignore the haters

misty forge
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he meant to say we slay trash

austere sparrow
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Is it just me or do we struggle to even beat tanks in aoe dps unless we press incarn? (yeah i know stuff dies to fast in m0, but still depressing)

sudden flame
nimble tangle
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that soul trinket is so ass

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the soul is so small, barely see it

sudden flame
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wait

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i have to collect a soul

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i did not read that trinket

jaunty blaze
sudden flame
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I was runnign that for ages i thought it was just giving me a primary stat proc

nimble tangle
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so it is ass

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just destroy it

jade flume
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i think my dmg was ok in overall, just dogshit on single targit

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That was elune though

delicate perch
delicate perch
fossil hemlock
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I hear brew can also pump

maiden pasture
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Brew and guardian are broken af yea

quiet drift
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Rock is this true

lean knot
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why are we not running meteorites/mushrooms instead of wild surges ?

vale pebble
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wild surges is also like rly good

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also u do play mushrooms

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and/or meteorites

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just depends what builds ur looking at

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but u always play wild surges

jade flume
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what are homeskies sending in m0s

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elune or treemans

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dont say guardian

fossil hemlock
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Resto because my group had 4 other classes without healing specs

dire osprey
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same

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atleast feral frenzy is a button that makes u feel like u contributed something x0r6ztGiggle

drifting nova
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why do tank specs just have better versions of buttons from dps specs

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wtf

sudden flame
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idk

quiet drift
feral sonnet
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When my tanks gather mob, should I Moonfire every mobs then Sunfire when they are gathered? Because i feel it takes time to catch up ( if I can catch them up ) the other DPS

drifting nova
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yes

feral sonnet
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And when im starved in AP, should I only spam Starfire? Is there any occasion I should Wrath? In M+ context if I play Elunes.

I feel I miss something because I hit like a wet noodle lol

drifting nova
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wrath can leave the bars

lofty depot
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But nonetheless, most of the time if u think a talent should be ran and it's not..... It's because it sims worse for certain things....

Like right now u could pick between mushrooms/ac/sotf and get similar results on st

gleaming belfry
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ballpark, how many targets before we swap from SSurge to SFall?

humble talon
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2

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I think

trail vale
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3

gleaming belfry
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ty

lean knot
lofty depot
lean knot
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and they dont have shrooms included

lofty depot
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Which one

drifting nova
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I thought petrified roots were only dropped in 1s from hc

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healer just got 5 wtf

lofty depot
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Yee

lofty depot
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M0s drop many

vale pebble
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and m0 dorp more maybe

lofty depot
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Big big

vale pebble
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sell fast

drifting nova
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spose they are less than 10k now idk

vale pebble
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the market is flowing

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you are behind

drifting nova
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LISTEN HERE

lofty depot
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It might also be u get them from seasonal dungeons

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Thoughts

drifting nova
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it took me 10hcs to get a hc wep

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didnt know you have to do campaign for sojourner so that sucks

lofty depot
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Have to do all the quests for sojourner no?

drifting nova
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yeah but the non campaign quests

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are hidden without the campaign

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was doing my druid with non campaign and half are missing

lofty depot
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Mmhm

grim mirage
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Yes but you can skip campaign talking to Soridormi when completed once on one of your character

drifting nova
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..at 90

lofty depot
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Also if u try to do side quests on alt and not on main.... U have to do some intro quests otherwise the side quests brick

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It's fucking stupid

drifting nova
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I'll go check sori again but yday it wasnt there idk

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really shouldnt be 90

sudden flame
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explain

lofty depot
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Skill issue

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I got 24

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I'm rich

sudden flame
drifting nova
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shouldve class stakced

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(it's dumb)

lean knot
sudden flame
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how would have that helped

drifting nova
sudden flame
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how

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when everything is an upgrade for everyone it like does not matter i feel

fossil hemlock
drifting nova
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you silly sausage, only invite people that have gear

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of your class (or armour I guess)

fossil hemlock
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Or that

drifting nova
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monks, druids

sudden flame
drifting nova
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rogues

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STACK THE DECK

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like I said, it's incredibly dumb people do it

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but its for a reason

lofty depot
lean knot
lofty depot
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I'm gonna lose my shit

lean knot
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are we speaking the same language

lofty depot
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WHICH ONE

lean knot
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elune

vale pebble
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he means that there are 6 builds here

lean knot
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m+

sudden flame
vale pebble
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to pick from

lean knot
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obv the best m+ one

drifting nova
tacit oriole
lean knot
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ig i need to be more specific

vale pebble
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yea in general

drifting nova
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he's a little slow

vale pebble
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u cant drop that many things there

lofty depot
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Looks fine to me?

vale pebble
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u can swap sotf maybe into shrooms or meteorites

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if u want

lofty depot
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Can swap sotf to mushrooms yea as stated before

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AC low-key fun

vale pebble
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meteorites is st tho

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u need to keep that in mind its your main target

fossil hemlock
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Can it be used to pull from africa?

vale pebble
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ac u can also swap around yea

vale pebble
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like 60yarder i think

lean knot
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why not the wild surges idk it seems way too less comapred to shrooms

vale pebble
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if u compare wild surges

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to f.e. sotf

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its just better

lofty depot
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Feel free to sim it and see the difference

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Feelycraft <

vale pebble
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so ur comparing not the worst talent

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to a talent that can proc at the end of the pack

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on 1 target

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fungal growth for 0

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give u 0ap

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just less consistent in general

lofty depot
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They nerfed sunseeker aswell, so u might think it's better than it is

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Idk

pallid bay
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ws is like 25% more ap before multipliers

vale pebble
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its for sure not a bad talent

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but wild surges is better if u compare 1:1

quiet drift
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Sunseeker, Dreamstate, UE, Orbit Breaker

vale pebble
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its also like 15% dmg on starfire which is good

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its not nothing

tiny fractal
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A bit confused, when would I use eclipse rather than incarn and vice versa?

lean knot
# vale pebble give u 0ap

ye but u said its better to get rid of sotf which give more than 2 ap (40% of 12 for startfall) for shrooms thats why i dont get it

vale pebble
quiet drift
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Chain them in the manner that gives you the most uptime

vale pebble
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and its only inside of eclipse

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and it doesnt give u dmg

drifting nova
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why are they still doing currencies

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that arent actual currencies

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wtf

tiny fractal
lofty depot
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Incarn do be a major cd

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U might eclipse before incarn in some cases tho

lean knot
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as talents for m+

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in this situation

vale pebble
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id play bear

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:DDD

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but prob

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orbit breaker

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click off sotf get mushrooms maybe

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or click off ac get dreamstate

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and keep sotf

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if i feel like playing good

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but its harder

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or click off stellar amp

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and get something else as well

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or u can take weaver and take meteorites

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take off sotf

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get mushrooms

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they all just do different things

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if u want the real answer it depends how fast shit dies

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and who ur playing with

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class wise skill wise

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and how big ego ur tank has

lean knot
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😄

lean knot
drifting nova
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na no way I do the soiree, rep up then get the quest to do the soiree

royal zenith
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objectively

fossil hemlock
royal zenith
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what do tiersets for tanks do?

lean knot
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without gear and trinkets

royal zenith
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just survivability or also damage

drifting nova
fossil hemlock
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Big dam

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I think 2p is 10% maul and moonfire damage

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4p is more moonfire uptime and a chance for a proc that makes our next maul cast again at 100% effectiveness on a fairly high ppm

royal zenith
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then tanks are doing a fuckton of dps in general

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maybe good?

fossil hemlock
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0p-4p is like 14% dps increase?

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I think

lofty depot
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Are we rageweaving 👀

royal zenith
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we should

lofty depot
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Pew pew pew

drifting nova
royal zenith
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we need more tanks

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is googe

drifting nova
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yeah idk bout that

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some of these new dungeons aint it

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multistoried dungeons bad, there I said it

polar goblet
fossil hemlock
polar goblet
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I was getting smoked by a 190 feral, I did beat them on ST though

rocky bramble
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is it still possible to color nameplates based on a debuff the enemies have?

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i'm having trouble with tracking my moonfires

royal zenith
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Nope

lofty depot
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Always curious

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can track a color change on a bar but not a moonfire icon on top of it

slim iris
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This spec sucks need to proc a buff asap

spice roost
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3%incoming lol

lofty depot
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And the frogs gonna freak out

unreal fox
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silly question -- wondering what buff is active that is keeping me from entering eclipse while playing Elune's Chosen..

rocky bramble
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Lunar calling :)

unreal fox
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thanks king

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i keep getting "a more powerful spell is active" even when trying to lunar eclipse.

thought lunar calling only stopped solar

lone garden
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Prob cause you are in incarn

rocky bramble
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incarnation then prob

unreal fox
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okay perfect

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thanks gamers

nova yarrow
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is it possible to get a spark rn? if yes whats the best for us to craft? or better to wait for 2? ty

lucid olive
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Wait for 4

lofty depot
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  1. U can get 2 sparks right now.... World soul and the delve/dungeon weekly quest thing.
  2. U don't craft right now
nova yarrow
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ty for the fast answers

royal zenith
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2 halves

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Or 2 sparks

jaunty blaze
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there are no halves anymore

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🤓

royal zenith
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Sussy

jaunty blaze
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its just sparks

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basically same thing

royal zenith
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Just create more useless currency!!

drifting nova
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bags already fucked

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wake me up when currency released GOES INTO THE CURRENCY TAB

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like this shitty mana

naive drum
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btw is boomkin the fastest in killing the new herb/mining mobs?

lofty depot
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Seeing as boomkin isn't the best DPS currently

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No

naive drum
lofty depot
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Bear >

naive drum
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guess bear it is then^^

fossil hemlock
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Bear also can't get dazed while mounted AFAIK

drifting nova
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tank perk indeed

naive drum
#

sounds great

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harandir bear it is then^^

south egret
#

Hey! what build is the best for preseason dungeons? Keeper?

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Wowhead says elune but icy says keeper 🤷

lofty depot
#

Elune is usually the choice for m+ but shit doesn't live long enough so it doesn't really matter

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Bear is the correct choice

south egret
#

Yea so keeper whould prob be best when doing world tour m0 ^^
But ye double tank is maybe better xD

lofty depot
#

Yeet

drifting nova
#

double? die you mean 5?

atomic coyote
#

Whats the vibe on balance in midnight. Is it fun with good design?

lofty depot
#

fun yes

cloud citrus
#

very fun

wraith parcel
#

gah! this is totally a rant! but im been a swarn moonkin ever since wrath...yes wrath...i have seen ups and down on this spec and have dabbled with the other spec but no where near what i put into balance, i struggled up to 90 pull one or two mobs and getting wrecked....so i pop on here and see people feeling the same and mention of guardain being better....so i tried it for voidstorm....sigh....im killing massive group with out a flicker of the health moving...i dont want to tank this exp but it might be my only option as it stands...as i said this is just a rant but if your struggle with boomkin just got guardan it make your life soo much eaiser ❤️

lucid olive
#

you can play whatever spec you want

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don't believe the crowd that dooms over their spec compared to others

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i leveled 3 moonkins to 90 pulling 10+ mobs at a time shrug

drifting nova
#

dont listen to him

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he's insane

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he levelled 3 moonkins to 90

gentle scroll
#

Guardian is going to get shot in like 12 days so dont get too attached

drifting nova
#

I just like not taking damage more tahn anything

wraith parcel
#

i agree and disagree, i love moonkin its my fav spec in the game but its a little bit like eating your brownie and then trying somthing apple pie...its not brownie but it takes really good and you miss brownie

jaunty blaze
#

have you tried to just not take damage then

drifting nova
#

I have, guardian does not take damage

exotic perch
royal zenith
#

😭 😭 😭

jaunty blaze
#

🥀

royal zenith
#

(no idea what this emoji is heh... ecksdee)

jaunty blaze
#

surely

exotic perch
#

and you can basically pull 5 or so mobs at a time and slam cds every time

maiden pasture
#

I'm almost done with my 4th 🤝

lucid olive
lucid olive
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then warlock probably

maiden pasture
#

DH is after my 4th

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And idk if I'll do more

lucid olive
#

yeah i'll do DH and then probably wait until the iranians figure out the best level boosting tech

flint rose
#

What did you use to lvl up quickly ?

verbal mural
#

probably that one delve that everyone was farming

nimble tangle
#

Why no starweaver

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Why

flint rose
#

I gave Delve a shot, but it's not that great. I'm barely gaining any XP, even after full clearing.

lucid olive
#

do restedxp adventurer mode till 88

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turn in every delve quest

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do first crafts for professions

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in that order

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also make sure you have darkmoon faire top hats for the entire process

flint rose
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Ok ok ! Thx ! What s adventurer mode on restedxp ? I dont have it I think

gentle scroll
#

Restedxp is an addon

lucid olive
flint rose
#

Ye, i have it but I dont have adventurer mode

lucid olive
#

gg

flint rose
#

I have unlock adventurer mode on my main but I don’t have a guide on rested to do this

lucid olive
red nymph
#

am i supposed to feel bad when im in a group taking up a spot that a mage or warlock have doing 3 times my damage?

lucid olive
#

if you don't have it then maybe you need to update or you need to fetch a string for Midnight

flint rose
#

You are on unused guide ? I was checking on first one b

lucid olive
#

no, top tab

flint rose
#

Ok ok !

glacial steeple
#

We bring MoTW

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Better than AI

red nymph
#

so does bear

glacial steeple
#

But we also bring flap

lofty depot
#

Bear or feral and run it down

lofty depot
#

Cuz 38k in 2 minutes is not.... "Barely" anything

lofty depot
#

This time is rather worse than other times .. but nonetheless bear >

nimble tangle
#

I refuse to become tree or bear anytime

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And I’m 229 ilvl as a boomie

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Pain in the butt

lofty depot
#

Not even 235

nimble tangle
lofty depot
#

Ur so behind

nimble tangle
#

Imagine this shoulder

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I’m done

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No more 235

lofty depot
#

Vers crit

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Yucky

nimble tangle
#

I have way more vers than anyone else

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I don’t die

lofty depot
#

Being in bear form makes u not die

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(unless it's first pull of murder row, then u die prob)

lucid olive
#

i might do m0s and m+ as guardian or resto, but i always prefer leveling as moonkin

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would've maybe done the 2nd and 3rd druid as other spec but starweaver fun

royal zenith
lofty depot
#

Firedup called moonkin broken so we're gonna get nerfed actually

lucid olive
#

moonkin could be omega OP it won't matter if nobody else is tanking or healing

royal zenith
#

also I have a question

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you mentioned being busy irl and not being able to do stuff

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and then you go and make 50000 moonkins??

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priorities?!

loud kettle
#

What do u think he was busy doing

lofty depot
#

Irl is leveling moonkin

royal zenith
#

ikr

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this guy is capstone

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united

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insanity

lucid olive
#

i leveled 3 characters for splits cause i'm still raiding

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but yeah idk, i'm terrible at spacing out my time

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so if i start doing bunch of sims then that's all i do for like 12 hours

royal zenith
#

Im jk brutha

lucid olive
#

yeah i didn't think you meant anything by it

royal zenith
#

Ill just blame draco

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easier

lucid olive
#

you can do that

loud kettle
#

well start doing a bunch of sims

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Daily

royal zenith
#

daily LOGIN

loud kettle
#

That's ur new life now

lucid olive
#

i told draco halfway into manaforge that i would probably only play splits and not prog for season 1 midnight

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then he said he would be looking for moonkin applicants

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and i'm not giving my spot away to some yuppie new guy

lofty depot
#

Smh, gatekeeping

royal zenith
#

nepotism gatekeeping

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the whole shebang

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it's UNREAL

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elitism +

lucid olive
#

yeah my ego gigantic

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i miss the old gamz

lofty depot
#

Piss gamz

drifting nova
#

sub me in

nimble tangle
#

What about sims sir

#

When you do moonkin leveling on 100 boomies

lofty depot
#

Sims fine

#

What need?

royal zenith
#

more admooge

red nymph
wraith parcel
#

so following this chat, on the 17th when we might get buffed what would ideally you like to see happen to balance?

nimble tangle
#

Or we get nerfed because firedup saying boomie broken

royal zenith
#

firedup is not loud enough

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if you'd say thd, maybe

lofty depot
#

Tierset nerf from 50% to 25%
Surge/starfall buff 10%
Shooting stars buff 25 or w.e. that number equals out...compensation.
Aura like 5%

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Is like 8% inc...... but fixes the current problem of be generationally weak compared to others without tier

tacit oriole
#

@lucid olive you still have to pay for restedXP even for adventure mode right?

lucid olive
#

probably idk

iron pagoda
#

hi, would someone be interested in teaching beginner the spell rotations saturday or sunday?

sand ridge
#

did they break starfire today or something? it seems like my character keeps getting broken and i can't cast the spell as if i wouldn't know the spell

tacit oriole
lofty depot
royal zenith
lofty depot
sand ridge
#

will clip if it happens again. goes away when changing specs back and forth so at least i can fix it. just super annoying

iron pagoda
lofty depot
#

It works and is tried and tested

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U can watch tettles video if u want first

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But u don't learn by watching, u learn by doing.

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Muscle memory

sand ridge
lofty depot
#

I can't read w.e. that macro is

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Is likely what ur problem is

iron pagoda
sand ridge
#

the macro is just
/stopmacro [channeling: Convoke the Spirits]
/cast Starfire
and has been working fine since shadowlands 😅

lofty depot
sand ridge
#

plus all my spells have the same condition with stopmacro on convoke and they are all fine. literally just starfire bugging out

lofty depot
#

Did u search all those icons of the spells

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No #showtooltip ?

iron pagoda
#

I'll want to learn eventually balance and guardian druid rotations 😄 but one thing at a time 😄

sand ridge
#

the icons are auto added now since midnight i think. if you only need the icon and don't care about the tooltip you can remove that line

lofty depot
#

Disgusting

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Yea idk, I can't see shit cuz ultra wide and I'm on phone

dense steeple
#

Its a stop macro for convoke

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Oh he typed it

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I dont feel well I cant read

drifting nova
#

you cant hide campaign quests can you

dense steeple
#

No

drifting nova
#

fuck

sand ridge
#

ok i found the culprit in the spaghetti code 🙈
It's being balance spec -> join follower dungeon as heal -> teleport cantina -> leave through door -> back to balance and spell is broken 🤣

dense steeple
#

Punished for exploiting

sand ridge
#

for real

lofty depot
#

Why r u exploiting

north swan
#

is boomy looking promising?

dense steeple
#

Depends on your point of view

north swan
#

my pov is i want it to not be the squishiest spec rn and deals real good dmg

nova ocean
#

One of those is true

lofty depot
#

^^

north swan
#

bcuz as i rememeber it was squishy

#

is it the squishy part

lofty depot
#

One of

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Yes it's the squishy part

north swan
#

balls

lofty depot
#

It'll be fine

#

They buff classes to be 5% from the middle

nova ocean
#

They could also just nuke the top specs and everything would be fine just depends on how much damage they want classes to be doing

#

Based on bear druid it's a lot though lol

delicate tendon
#

hey everyone, just a question: do others feel like balance is just "clunky" atm? i dont even know what feels wrong, but im playing balance since 3.3.5 and this has to be the most unconfortable balance iteration ive ever played

lofty depot
#

Most people with complaints complain about the eclipse press. clunky, no it doesn't feel that way to me

silk shard
nova ocean
#

The gcd part has bothered me

lofty depot
#

Well ca and incarn are off gcd

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So that's a fake explenation

#

Before u had to press 2 starfires to get into the old eclipse

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It's half-gcd

#

2 vs .5

#

The eclipse is also instant, it's just objectively better

silk shard
#

objectively better but it takes a while for the feelscraft to settle in

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previously you could precast as your eclipse/ca was ending, but now you have to wait for the buff to fully drop before eclipsing again

lofty depot
#

Spend more than 12 minutes on the spec and it'll feel fine surely

lofty depot
silk shard
#

numerous times i want to refresh eclipse because i have to wait for the previous eclipse to end, it's not as smooth in the sense of being able to constant cast even if objectively better. you have to either chain an un-eclipsed spell or buffer with some instant cast

lofty depot
#

During an actual fight u won't have asp at the end of eclipse

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So u won't enter eclipse

silk shard
#

are you just chaining an uneclipsed wrath/starfire

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oh i see

lofty depot
#

U think u want to enter eclipse with no asp?

silk shard
#

use the down time to pool asp

lofty depot
#

U won't have 100% uptime on eclipse

silk shard
#

old habits from the time period when we weren't pooling

lofty depot
#

U have like 70%

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We were always pooling

dense steeple
#

"When we werent pooling"

Brother ICC has been over for awhile

lofty depot
#

We just have downtime now so sending surges in eclipse is better than sending anything outside of it

dull dust
#

silence pooling believer let the vibes speak

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why is the gif so small

#

can't have shit in dreamgrove

dense steeple
#

Wdym

silk shard
#

i loved when we had stuff like pulsar that rewarded my constant dumping of asp with longer ca/incarn

silk shard
#

idk, that was for me the best vibe after legion

dense steeple
#

Yeah i was gonna say just use a bigger gif

dull dust
#

sometimes it's cold out ok

lofty depot
#

Sounds like a lot of playing incorrectly

silk shard
#

i cant' remember if i followed guides that expac or not or if i was just yoloing

dull dust
#

artic if i don't figure out pooling today I'm jumping ship

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and I'm gunna blame u

lofty depot
#

Sounds fine

dull dust
lofty depot
#

Just get called sandbagger then blame the mages for helping hunter gain DPS but not us

dense steeple
#

Hes a mage

dull dust
dense steeple
#

Why would he blame mages

silk shard
#

actually i only play druids

dense steeple
#

Not you the guy who wears the altered time badge

silk shard
#

oh

#

hahaha

delicate perch
silk shard
#

kingdom of heaven was a good movie

dull dust
#

I think pooling will be partially a sim thing ngl

lofty depot
dense steeple
dense steeple
dull dust
#

until after u spend both incarn charges u only have like 10sec of out of eclipse time anyway

#

could pool at the end of prev eclipse mabey

silk shard
#

if i said i'm just a core gamer that only aotc/3k i think that already gives you an idea why i play the way i do, not chasing CEs or anything

silk shard
dense steeple
#

Don't have to chase CE, CE is easy it comes to me

#

Oh

dull dust
#

weird flex but ok

#

arctic can u call my phone company for me

lofty depot
#

Why

dull dust
#

cuz i dislike phone calls

#

I'm shy

lofty depot
#

U think I like them?

dull dust
#

more then me surely

lofty depot
#

People complaining about clunky or feel don't even play the content that makes it better so idk

#

Doing dimmy prog trying to get into eclipse while doing excess mass

#

Is the giga most cringe shit ever

dull dust
#

they made u do mass

lofty depot
#

I made me do mass

dull dust
#

buh

lofty depot
#

Because skill

#

And we're holding so who cares

dull dust
#

I mean i guess

silk shard
#

what is mass in this context?

lofty depot
#

My best kill was r8 so idk

silk shard
#

oh was it the dimensius mechanic?

dull dust
#

all 10 boomkins

lofty depot
#

Ok bud

dull dust
lofty depot
#

Where's ur rank 1 on arcane

dull dust
#

I got a 9 parse

#

close enough

lofty depot
#

I played fire for 12 minutes and got 99s

#

That class wzpz

#

Bamkin hard

dull dust
#

mage keeps getting the ret paladin treatment

lofty depot
dull dust
#

every rework less braincells req

lofty depot
#

And the timings were around when we ended eclipse

lofty depot
#

Fire was legit the same as it was in legion

#

Big poggy

dull dust
lofty depot
#

Nah I just finished cast and the people got scared

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

U could cast wrath if u went to the front of the circle and it finished before u got out of it

lucid olive
#

you're just 2 years late

dull dust
#

fwiw wrath is deffinitly short enough to stutter step and soak

lofty depot
#

Every class is boomkin tww levels

lofty depot
dull dust
#

can now

silk shard
#

at least kotg had more buttons to press although i felt the s3 opener with 4pc was insanely convoluted. i hated how easy playing EC in keys was relative to the stupid amounts of damage it brought

lofty depot
#

Was bad on queen too

#

U get thrown in the air out of eclipse... Then have to dodge waves and still can't get in

lucid olive
#

yeah Eclipse was terrible in p1 Queen

dull dust
dull dust
#

we have a party

lofty depot
#

Woe good

dull dust
#

really cook

lucid olive
#

if you sent your 2nd treants + ca on specific timer on p1 ansurek it wasnt that bad though

silk shard
#

yeah i missed WoE, definitely was weird during pre-patch playing EC and not having it anymore

lucid olive
#

could enter eclipse right as you get sent up

lofty depot
#

So I was 2nd ball hitter

dull dust
#

arctic

#

I have a idea to pool

lofty depot
#

And that timing was fucked so I moved my self to first

lucid olive
#

I miss WoE when you used it to enter Eclipse back in DF

lofty depot
#

So I could minmax my casts

#

Mem

lucid olive
#

that was good shit

dull dust
#

it'll be terrible for mdt sims

lucid olive
#

and WoE cooldown starting on button press and not when stacks have been used

dull dust
lofty depot
#

Chancel big tech in DF

#

So many cancelauras

dull dust
#

I was trying to get cancel_buff to work for arcane

#

if u could cancel cc rn u would but u cant

#

for sf

#

went in game to make sure u could cancelaura eclipse cuz o was feeling some tech

eager raft
lofty depot
#

Can't cancelaura eclipse

#

Can cancelaura incarn

dull dust
#

actually

#

I think

eager raft
#

The ol sarkareth pulsar cancel

dull dust
#

I have a new opener i wanna try

eager raft
#

My beloved

lofty depot
#

?

royal zenith
dull dust
#

idk

eager raft
#

I think his statement was very rooted in elitism

dull dust
lofty depot
#

Talk to me nice

dull dust
delicate tendon
#

kek

eager raft
#

This “read the pin” guy has always been a problem around here….

royal zenith
#

trick comment cause

#

nobody is playing relevant content

#

!!

dull dust
#

I wonder if he himself has read the pin

eager raft
#

Deux is the anti Arctic

#

He is the solution around here

lofty depot
#

So r u rat

royal zenith
#

Im anti anything

#

depends on the day

eager raft
#

Every problem is solved by having more deux

royal zenith
#

do we need to counter arctic with logic

#

he goes bad if that happens

#

turns to moon shine..

lofty depot
#

I don't drink as much as u might think

#

Hardly ever tbf

pseudo merlin
dense steeple
#

Hes the supplier not the consumer

lofty depot
#

Why drink it when u can sell it

eager raft
#

U need 60fps nodders

lofty depot
#

For these purposes, ATF I don't sell moonshine

#

I give it away

#

@dense steeple can confirm

royal zenith
#

this is just confirmation you should never trust this guys opinion

#

he does sales

#

shrimple

dense steeple
#

He gave me free booze in a Dennys parking lot PogCat

eager raft
#

Ducks are u level 90 yet

royal zenith
#

ye

lofty depot
#

It was a caseys

royal zenith
#

nearly lvl 90 on 2nd char

eager raft
#

On evoker?

royal zenith
#

did m0 swoop on druid

lofty depot
#

Denny's was across bridge silly

dense steeple
#

Oh my bad

royal zenith
#

we're gmaing

#

gaming

eager raft
#

Hell ye

dense steeple
#

I dont remember your weird ass state

royal zenith
#

but tomorrow poe so

eager raft
#

I need to do 2 more on my dk

royal zenith
#

it's more out of necessity

lofty depot
#

Says the ohioian

royal zenith
#

than preference

eager raft
#

Then I log out til next Tuesday

#

Did all my preys and m0s on lock and all but terrace and veil on dk

dense steeple
#

You're literally known as the people who shuck corn

royal zenith
#

what does prey give?

lofty depot
#

Good ole boys

royal zenith
#

also I dont think I did the spark quest

dense steeple
eager raft
#

First 2 hard mode prey gives veteran gear

lofty depot
eager raft
#

First 2 of the week

#

Plus crests ye

royal zenith
#

think I did the veteran quest one

lofty depot
#

Can spam for crests

royal zenith
#

but there's 2 right

lofty depot
#

Do random hunt

eager raft
#

The quest will be normal mode which will then unlock hardmode

royal zenith
#

Ill have a look

#

goal for tonight is lvl 90 on evoker

eager raft
#

They u do 2 hard modes for vet gear and can spam for crests if u wanna