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gamz go sleep
was gunna say the only one i posted was like for bugtesting

i heard u were cheating not using react..
ai always does
breaking..
whats wrong with that!!
idk i dont play this class
its a touch proc

wouldnt have capped either
and?
but thats not on pull even
why wouldnt u spend it in cd...
yea thats int
thought its with ascendant eclipses on pull
i know i spammed a wall about that like 2days ago
Do the feral apl next

wait until it overlaps with a moon proc
thats a moon
moon dn
can we shoot convoke in the head already
no
it's a fan favorite
I love convoke
im so sick and tired of that button
convoke will be in riot mmo mate
ive decided i like it
just you wait
we get hwei painter class
and convoke casts random spells


i am resubbing
10 sec after thats announced
and buying most expensive edition of the game
insta
Ravenous frenzy was venty thing right
y
what do i get from this "catch up experience"
depression
think you just get a tutorial and maybe some catch-up gear?
thats a lot of people ;o
its where you load in for the "catch me up guide quest thing"
o rly crazy
someone show me what a good ui looks like atm โค๏ธ
nice ui lol
just started 69 addon updates

thats not very nice of you
much better already
wtf is this
please delete this
Controller?
Console player 

wheres the gif
whats the general consensus on boomie atm? fun/strong?
fun weak
alrighty
not fun weak
just skip whole xpac tbh
lol what why
and pray they never do a saga again
whats wrong with it?
tww 0.5
When is the last time u found bamkin fun
feral dooming so hard they hate m+
Bazr doing his quarterly drop of controller ui screenshot to get reactions ๐ญ ๐ญ ๐ญ
Voti
based
no way it's voti
venthyr boomy on farm when shit dies in 1 cd cycle
you mean cn
Last raid was also "fun" cause haha funny big number
worst answer ever
??
you should dismiss anything maya says tbh
night fae now thats fun
This is why no one likes you
convoke go brr
WRT 
i enjoyed it fwiw
sup penis cat

not much wbu mace
I've always hated m+
Wdym no way its voti
splitting up the g's
voti had good skill expression
venthyr > all
true, M+ bad, started great then has gotten progressively worse
venthyr was so stale
was ventyhr stale
follow funny weakaura on when to press buttons, do big dam
or was the tier stale
yeah great
Yeah but he asked last time not what i enjoyed the most
Voti was after venthyr
big damage =/= fun playstyle
you'd use obr if it did the best damage because you're meta
damage is irrelevant to the buttons pressed

Its more that if im raiding and especially during turbo boost im forced to do dogshit keys just for crests, like keys are basically just crest farms for me and when its liek that its not enjoyable
that's your conclusion
which says enough about your capability of understanding


do you know why it was important to use hasted abilities during venthyr ramp @maiden pasture

what in the ass
yes
stamp roar/incap tech
it has a bg
it will be renown exploiting instead
Look, the rep exploit was an accident
They didn't do it on purpose!
venthyr was boring
(I didnt play the tier but it was)
Ur dogshit at the game so my point still stands
something doing good damage or good healing can and does cover over ALOT of mechanical cracks
for dogwater players
that see number go up

you'd spam wrath if it did 40% more damage than every other combination
and you'd say you enjoyed it

lie
if venthyr never existed we would never see lorgok get stunned in ramp on rwf kill
big loss for society
very rarely are specs made well AND do good numbers
ive played
pres
s1
when it was 50% over next healer
worst spec ive played in my life
ok but you're a reroller
the worst form of player
not an evoker/pres main

fotmers bad
I think you were just not part of the group of players that was actually minmaxing venthyr
if you think it was stale
you were indeed, following a WA
If u weren't going bear during venthyr ramp you suck

venthyr was probs the season I did best in
cant fact check cause priv logs that i dont have access to anymore tho
me when i make shit up
venthyr boomy sucked when your guild didnt give you PI and you never got a ICD
go ask someone in evolve to get the logs ig
someone hook me up with a good elvui import
thast fake you didnt need pi if you have hands
2 you get iqd by not being lazy

pfft i liked being lazy
i never had that WA
i just pressed the buttons in the order i was supposed to bruh
why is 9.2 part of sanctum
lords of dead
"killed"
either way i found the playstyle boring
i mean somethings wrong
skill issue
we killed jailer in fated many times
my logs are there at least
fuck knows what happened but i defo killed fated jailer with evolve
I dunno, playstyle needs to give you something to chase for
else what's the point
last tier's kotg tierset has been somewhat more fun
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ya the dryad set wasnt that bad
after we figured out how to play
the first iteration with the 2 global window to cast surges was not very wholesome
and in all honesty, I'm a dogshit player and should follow the WA
but understanding the concept is just as fun

do you like my liberation one?
unless
too much for me
Doctored image
do you think they will nerf the balance tier set?
yes
what even is it
idk
same all i know its big dps
Dsune u were a chad wtf :DDD
:DDDD
wait is that the new tier set bonus?
still is
Hey guys short question... is balance in decent state for m+?
how would anyone know
Short answer: perhaps
dont think the APL is optimized around not having tier

but if it fits your narrative..
bro i was about to say that
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i was gonna say that doesnt fit my agenda....
But tier doesnt change gameplay..
Also
Not like the apl is optimized..
Optimise it then

dots wrath surge
no need to overthink it
we are making peanut butter toast not crystal meth
any1 got a link to best lvling talents?
Bear
the guide on wowhead has some extra points in the general class tree
all i can get rn is this
That's because you get more at 90
i see, so class tree, middle tree and apex?
Yes
boutta go to sleep someone wake me up
its joever
i was gonna take friday off but they wouldnt let me
so i just resigned ๐
they cant stop me
๐ bruh
I've got a bunch of time taken off at the start of szn
Don't care too much about xpac launch
you'l be missing level 81 tho
and 82
perhaps 83
Id rather take time off at expac launch tbh
You get 3 class talents, 3 hero talents, and 4 spec talents on the way to 90
Hello, wondering if anyone could help as to why I dont have a resource bar at all on my UI. Is it an addon or something?
Would normally sit right above here
Brilliant. Thankyou!
Not sure it thats brilliant design from blizzard
No, but I was saying to the response that I got
All good 
well, you have the personal resource display ingame
lets not make it worse than it is (though i believe there may still not be any numbers displayed on them)
20k behind guardian 

bear meta confirmed?
Hey now, be nice
(I'm jk, it's good that more people are APLing)
Hasn't found any DPS actually
rip
Just remove the .react on Starfall and gain 1% ezpz

where is that
He's not even close to me
Inb4 its with pi
Well obviously
arctic is a person who adds some weird ass enchant
don't get distracted chancel
!
so what class/spec you guys playin ?
guardian
Holy/Disc priest
porbably disc or pres
maybe holy priest but may god have mercy on my soul if it comes to that
good strat
I will be booming too
i'm leaning to windwalker
As holy priest you gotta suicide every fight for the 30s innervate :3
Nothing can go wrong with that
If i end up playing that trash ass spec then there'll be nothing i want to do more than killing myself
so its gonna be ez
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Trinket tech was next level
I'm sure chancel would appreciate the tech
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copycats everywhere
Hey, im pretty sure my old nameplates use to show when mobs are in/affected by my vortex, can we still do that in plater? n how if anyone knows 
This shoud still work in actual plater or platynator
But maybe wont work with your old one if it was a script
just grabbed jundies profile, will test it
yea its still not showing on the nameplate, guess its somewhere in buff settings/tracking
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8UBRzZAZAkWbrQ4XPBNPhf
just gunna drop this here if anyone has any concerns (not just complaining) ping me ill read it when i wake up, im going to bed 
(i deleted most the old one so shits missing for most profiles)

The 3m trees
Would likely be u holding eclipse for it, or holding trees for the following eclipse (if control is used)
CD variable surely
Can you ever lose Soltice uptime by pressing the free Starsurge/Starfall too early?
ie. if I throw my free starsurge and starfall just after going into eclipse does it all just stack?
If u use a proc of weaver/cosmos then go into eclipse yes
No issues with spellqueuing like we sometimes have?
Eclipse resets the buf to 6
Oh I guess you can't really spellqueue the same way now that it's instant with a half-gcd
Spell queuing what
There's gonna be plenty of funny spell queuing
We have procs now
Like in the past you sometimes wouldn't benefit from stuff if you cast starfire starfire then spellqueued surge
Which is a loss for munching
It pops up every now and then across the game
going eclipse and then using both free spells will give me full 12s of solstice?
There's also the double benefit iteration of that
But it's irrelevant since you can't do it that way anymore with eclipse
U'll lose 2 seconds because 2 gcds while pressing those but yes
What can't u do with eclipse
do we use ever want to overlap incarn with eclipse use or is that a waste
Losing uptime, but currently we do that in the opener
Because it puts it on cd while incarn is 20s right
So ur getting a free use essentially
ok
do you get longer eclipse then or what's the benefit if incarn giving eclipse already?
Incarn gives 2 eclipses... And 10% haste and 10% crit
No it doesn't extend exlipse
The benefit is getting eclipse on CD other ur wasting say 1 solar bolt, 1 free wrath, + some surge extra dam
But depends how long it's optimal to cast inside that solar eclipse before incarning
ah okay so you just clip it a bit
Whats up my chicken brethren.
Now thats its Dday how does boomy look overrall? M+ and raid?
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Is it really that bad?
damage is pretty shit ye
but tuning will come at some point
currently guardian is still the best druid dps spec i believe
Thats insane
Im planning on swapping from my spriest to boomy for my prog team (id rather tank but no spots atm)
My druid is like all vers mastery/haste so my boomy damage is pretty shite atm regardless
gilly the magus
Early access hype!!!!!!
oof
Prog team as in raid?
Correct
Ya
And why these 2 specifically
Huh
Why am I playing the classes i play? Because I like them. Idk why your asking that
I thought you were swapping for them with specific goal in mind
Like raid buff or sth
Na. Well overall I do think a druid is more useful then a spriest but was just looking for a change. But if boomy really is garbage I'll keep it in my guilds chill team
Just remember to gaslight ๐ก girl boss ๐ gate keep ๐
Tbh idk exactly how bad bamkin is, its not good as far as i know though
Maybe something will change after 2 tuning passes
That's an electric bulb
How tf would I know
Ur state don't matter as much as u think
Boomkin tuning isnt good
well im fucked if i do, fucked ifi dont both boomy and shadow arnt doing great.
Ima just lay down and cry
50% aura buff incoming. 
Wizard or wand
Only need surge buff like 10%
what if I'm in ohio
That's not real
I wish deux was here
Iโm sorry but both Blizzard and god have already abandoned you if thatโs the case
@royal zenith they called
res is off his meds again
They call me Kristi Noem the way I'm about to put this dog down
ENHANCE
LMFAO
????
:kek:
you know hot dogs arent meant to be healthy right?
First of all it's a polish sausage
Secondof all its covered in literal poutine and cole slaw
So like there was no notion of it being healthy
poutine? that fish thing?
Who is this kekkers guy
A ragebaiter
There's no way to have any innervate reminder shit now or, besides ig just putting it on a combat timer?
Best you can do is cd manager it to see when its off cd
Can you actually see this
Mw in shambles
I dont see why not. Its trackable in there isnt it?
||admittedly I have not used innervate since prepatch so idk||
i'm sure there will be innervate me addons once rwf is over and all the p2w hacks get released

Oh you mean for your own just to slam it on cd
Oh did you mean for someone to ask for it or something
I hope Disc priest doesn't end up as the raid meta healer before we have a good Weakauras alternative
No way I can remember to Innervate during the pull timer
if I have to pull an end-boss 300 times and have to hear healer saying my name on every pull timer
I am going to freak out
the call is either "innvervate (me)"
Especially cause my guild is stupid so when healer says "Gamz" then like 4 people chime in with any of "smells bad/is stupid/is bad/sucks"
but thats just the cost of doing business
obviously hes not going to say "sir gammz, may i perhaps receive the mana buff known as Innervate upon myself so I dont go Out of mana"
no he shouldnt have to say anything
Make the healer bark
in Undermine I just made a Weakaura that gave me a little ding when it was 3s left on pull-timer and we were inside the ID for the boss room
much easier
"just say that shit in voice"
@brave gulch always calls for it
Im on voice call with my guildies so we can code our own reminder and just stay muted after we say hi once !
if it's Phased asking for Innervate then it's fine
any time spent listening to Phased speak is a plus
true
I had this for nathria and sanctum prog

My healers were always shy about it whispering shit like "hey soma are you innervating anyone on this fight?
"
Brother just call for it
That way everyone knows you got it
Real and true
macro innervate to incarn guys
REAL
true or true
Its Bfa Lively spirit meta again !
x
needing my healer to actually press abilities
hard thing to achieve
id have an easier time learning a foreign language than getting them to heal with innervate on them
I will give you the lightning bolt mana. Stop trying to be sneaky with your request so I don't have to tell someone else why they can't have it
I hadn't started playing wow yet in BFA how impactful was that innervate thing
lowkey u should be able to innvervate arcane mages and anyone else for that matter
I got a 97 parse this week on dimmy but my +6 haste enchant from a month ago invalidated the log
It was my bis
I need it to press lavaburst
bring back old innervate
If its only a 97 then u should be happy it got invalidated...
Ill kms right now
Some of us are washed
it was our best azerite trait if you got 8 stacks, which was pretty easily achievable.
There was a bug though with holy word salvation that gave us 35 stacks though xdd
So you're telling me you lost to me while cheating
that was fire
Im a healer main now, im washed personified
What part of ill kms dont you understand 
Man i've been playing some league with my homies
What's an innervate reminder in your book?
That game as a new player is some shit i aint gonna lie
Can just have the eeler ping you or something
sticky note on the monitor
Super washed if youre a league enjoyer
I had an ex gf who did this for raid assignments in wod and legion lmao
I do actually like it tbh, but it feels like everyone i play against has 10k hours of experience on me(they do)
CE raider btw
im glad you broke up with her over this
Oh no i broke up with her cause she cheated on me with a hunter
LMAO
But it was pretty close to the last straw
streaking stars was kind of neat
lively was bis before streaking stars existed
Girls are always going after big deeps...
I am so confusd with boomkins atm - I haven't read or looked at anything about boomie until today, my char isn't swapping between eclipses and it's confusing the fuck out of me xD
Thats because your character doesn't do that
Eclipse is a spell now
he's a bamkin
Can confirm reading is not included in our skillset
Which stat is reading
intellect
No i realise that, but from what I did see, we went back to goign through like a pendulum style, but It's not even that anymore
Tettles toxic, not helping the frog
Incorrect
We are not pendulum
Nit intellect thats my lowest stat! 
We haven't been pendulum since like bfa right?
bfa was empowerments
This shit all blends together in my old age
Will look through pinned messages to se whats what, nice to see this gaff is as helpful as ever ๐
p sure it was shadowlands with the alternating
S1 I think~
Much like Somaloria, memory is going in my old age
Well empowerments were 2 expansions, then shadowlands did the funny eclipse
Then DF made it actually in the class
Kept that for 2 expansions
Then now it's a button
(times change)
Ig reminder is the wrong word, more meant request
surely gotta be possible to start a timer when pressing a keybind, right?
surely by the last titan we'l have multistrike back
I get it now - THey changed it in to a useable button, da fuq
so the eeler would press keybind, timer starts on their end and pings you, you press innervate macro
i still cant believe Heart of Azeroth Essences werenโt day one release
Hp based phasing can change timings
Just azerite
they werent even first patch
what even was first patch
i meant, the healer starts a 3min timer on their end to know when they can request again
uldir..something..nazjatar
idk what that has to do with phasing
blackfathom deeps?
Battle for dazar alor
what came with battle for dazar alor
We already had incursions and warfronts
O
Yeah but the actual requesting part
Doing it out loud in voice is annoying

never checked but the weekly dung quest that gives renown/rep
is that boosted by rep bonuses
Healers could make a macro thatโs just /w mayaler Innervate Me
But I donโt think that could trigger anything on your screen other than noticing the whisper
can actually use the ingame stopwatch 
Ye that's the annoying part
/sw 3:00
/sw play
/ping [@Fatowl] assist
For prog bosses it's just needed for like the first 6 ish times of seeing the mechanic they need Innervate for
After that I just remember where to press it
The problem for me is whenever they need it during pull timer cause I'm alt tabbed until 5 sec on timer
Hello everybody, i'm using Plater Nameplates for a while with a changing color mod when solar/lunar fire are applied but recently it doesn't work anymore, health bars stay in the original color and i don't know where to fix it
24 minutes 
i heard u cant do it anymore
you dont fix it
blizz removed the possibility of coloring nameplates like that
Why's everybody still using Plater actually
All nameplate addons have basically same features, nobody can tell me they prefer Plater option panel
habit 
yeah but you cant name another addon that does the same thing
why would you switch off plater
if youve been using it for 10 years
I actually used threatplates initially
elvui nameplates
platynator
and you see bunch of elvui users stay on plater
for whatever reason i was having trouble reading platynator nameplates due to the colors and plater is easier on my eyes + comfort/itโs what im used to
the colors that you are in control of yourself
jundies on plater comes out of the box easier for me to see
but yeah idk, the only reason i can see going plater over platynator are the x/y offset settings
did Plater fix their debuff tracking yet or does DK still have 40 auras on there
why would i spend time fucking around w/ settings on another addon when i can just copy/paste the profile on plater and forget about it entirely
Well plater debuff tracking might not be fixed so one of them is slightly better
And the time before, platynator was updating faster, I think still is
jundies has profiles for both tho
not to say you have to switch because of that or anything
this statement applies to platynator jundies as well. i tried using platynator jundies on the beta for several weeks and i just found that plater was easier to see
for me* might be different for other people
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whats goin on here
I dont mind macros either tbh I just do whats easiest for the other party
hey it was a compliment
having you raidlead on heroic gallywix while me, arctic and respectable were being idiots was a big vibe
lmfao
I just didnt expect to see my innervate usage brought up
I also say please and thank you
And respectable got out dpsed by 2 not main boomkins
What if u have foe and trinket up before incarn
different keybind
And then u press and then don't have it for incarn press
U just asked to macro it together
im asking what would be a good keybind for like an opener
That's not what u asked at all
OKAY
hey guys, what macro would you recommend me for an opener for like m+? EC
thanks in advance
BETTER

I would t macro trinket to foe
okok
But idk what ur looking for in an opener macro unless u just mean for item key binds or macros to abilities
no
Idk if u know what the word macro or opener means
You don't want to press FoE on the same global as your Incarn
Hence why macroing them together is bad
I open(er) my macro menu, sometimes.
ah so incarn first then fury+trink+pot
No
No
Fury first then Incarn+Trinket+Pot+Starsurge/Starfall
tyvm
that doesn't mean you macro Starsurge to Incarn/CA either btw
why do we bind ss or sf to the macro
ah okay
#showtooltip /cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment /use 13
only macro you need tbh
/use 13 means it will use the top trinket slot
If you want it to use the bottom trinket slot you type /use 14
ahh okay
as midnight kicks off this evening, remember this: there is no such thing as early access, only late access
if you aren't leveling up a character tonight, you will have a lot of intrusive thoughts and they will all be true
ok good talk enjoy your xpac launch everyone!
blizzard remaining untorched for this early access bs is forever a stain

any UI's i can copy? i didnt do organize mine and now midnight is upon us
Wowhead surely
im on early access and to be fair just cus i had extra gold, as far as progression goes, it changes almost nothing unless you're planning to boom in the economy
if you're playing on early access, even if you remotely walk over you keyboard you make back more than enough gold to pay for next early and carry thru the whole xpac
isnt there any famous balance druid setup? i suppose its better than generic wowhead
As opposed to the people that are on wowhead that aren't famous?
I replied under it
dammit
No CD variable so doesn't care about holding tree/eclipse
It means: No CD variable so doesn't care about holding tree/eclipse
Hope that helps
To line trees up with eclipse
i mean, wowhead people arent the brightest players... at least when i used to ice mage it was sad... but again im also bad so it will have to suffice xd
The people that write the guide are

Just because the information is for the "not brightest people" doesn't mean there isn't value somewhere in there.
The premise of it chancel, is u want to align CDs together
Generally u trees on CD, and then work from there
Eclipse has 2 charges and control of the dream allows u to hold trees for 15 seconds and not lose anything on the cd
So if it's possible u would hold eclipse at that 245 time, til 3m to align it with trees
Or u would hold trees til 315 when the next eclipse is up
leme grab a coffee and try some stuff
R u oce?
How is the ST for boomy looking?
Tuning or gameplay
general gameplay / m+ performance
M+ is roughly the same play style... Maybe play weaver, possibly not
Starfire does less damage
But there's plenty of classes ahead or withing margin of boomkin in m+
i see, trying to decide between warlock or druid as my first toon of the expac ๐
Save your own demise and just go lock
BIS for herbing
arctic give plater profile
Just use your bull rush as a AOE cc. Insta inv
took jundies thanks
If ur using platynator he has some funny arrows used for targetting
Go to the edit mode and move the concussion aura on the right up then delete the arrow and move it back
what if i just make it more flambouyant and put it back
i made it HUGE so i can see it
Old man

Why r we looking at our filler abilities on our actionbars
im na
Nahhhhb
damn you did me dirty
1hr49m
aight 2 hours of this then i forget about boomkin till next xpac
boutta prepot 2 monsters and a bacon and egg mcmuffin
Idk why were looking at action bars

U said for the week
pvp, no elvui
It's been 2 days
Back on the treadmill
and if ur doing apl when xpac launches ur forced to do it for the rest of the xpac
thems the rules
i expect to see u in here over these next 2 years
we are ez spec to apl for
most specs are now
Wrath/Starfire used to glow on Action Bars before Eclipse was made a cooldown
so it can get overcooked really easy i think
Why aren't we using the cool new feature cooldown manager
I imagine they are probably still meant to light up based on Eclipse but whatever dev did it forgot
Weird.... Hea like "why is the apl so overcooked"... Cuz there's "stupid fucking bullshit"
probably same dev who forgot to update the Eclipse talent shape
We are using the very cool new feature not ever seen in WoW
Ur UI looks like u just opened the game and did nothing
thats the point lmao, as I said no elvui enjoyer
thats betterblizzframes no
Im too old for change
U don't need elv to use the cdm
yolo
Ur just actively not using it
is elv cdm better than bcm
no
i cbf changing atp
but you can use both at the same time without conflict
just go into elvui -> skins and disable the Cooldown Manager skin
fwiw its kinda just about trying to isolate what spells are driving similar behaviours
wdym exactly? I just want the old functionality pre-eclipse button
instead of writing buff. 6x
if you mean just Starfire and Wrath glowing on Eclipse then that isn't possible
real
trolling or ?
Well u got to the point where it does decently correct things... Then u go to optimize CD usage and it seems like it becomes annoying
yeah multiple charge spells
oh gamz is awake he just donowalled me
are proving to be pretty fuckin aids
where
I ignore most pings in there
Now u get the annoying part kek
And there's now multiple of them
i slept now from 19 to 22 but im too excited to keep going

We have instant starfire cast, very useful for pvp thats why
and wowhead is employment in my book
And the first one stands for eludes

guy does 40v40 battlegrounds
There's a cool astral swirlies above your head for that
owlkin frenzy makes cyclone instant?
talent makes it faster to cast
most of em are useless
i like leveling in war mode for star burst tho
I will not be leveling in war mode
Level in war mode as bear
oce 99.9% ally
Free as fuck
lmao aight
arc ui, you welcome. thanks for suggestions!
why so?
Vibe coded or something
Then you find that horde idiot trying to level in war mode
Free honor
I found it decent with very minimal performance impact, Elvui on the other hand....
I wish war mode was as good as pvp servers were in classic
war mode is just likeโฆ
โHeres a 40 year old man and his 3 friends here to make the fight unwinnableโ

elvui uses nothing now
u gotta remember its rebuilt
mmm yes
so people get it only for the look?
not much at all
not like it has anything else it can do
its all just aesthetic now yer
i used to have like 80 addons
and weak auras
drastically reduced
and drastically reduced fun
smh clearly you are the problem with the game
Also, the whole "ElvUI is a massive performance hog!!" bit hasn't been particularly true in forever
was gonna say
the dream
most of the performance issues with the game

Weak
u can blame blizzard
100%
bad optimization 
Did you not see @wicked shuttle leveling his Priest earlier 
0 addons
Full default UI
LUA error every 2 minute
resto druid creating 5000 combat events during opener bc of hots lagging out

















