#balance
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cant fly too close to the sun
😭
10% aura buff or I riot
Keep dreaming
20% surge buff
gastank is typing
dreamsurging??
Sure any dreams works i guess
how about lucid
i did that last week
Gm
gm mister ton
ya i saw the logs
142k oa
Lol, I was gonna look at something... Then I forgot and now I'm at work
gg
hahaahaha

w*rk…
People need to be more sensitive about trigger words
Smh
I enjoy the max vid every patch but only because I know it doesn't really matter at all
i like to hear the tc people talk about their specs
feral just had a poll in the chat though lmao
Feral rly in the dumpster
Would not wanna be a feral playet this xpac
Shit looks like the most boring spec in the game unironically
Chicken is probably above average
Double dunked
The problem is, when u rank it against others and others have differing opinions.....
Because if arcane is B...... Boomkin can't be B lol
Hi, does anyone know how long the Season 3 TWW dungeons will be available?
Until actual launch, I think. But I don’t quite remember what they did during early access for tww
OH TY
As in, its higher than B?
I've heard mage in general is trash gameplay wise
I'm not talking about tuning btw, bamker is obv bamker(bottom) tier in terms of tuning like always
It can be trash gameplay and still do more damage than boomkin by like 20%
Yeah and it will
Gameplay wise boomkin might be more fun than most
that sounds like cope from bench
But that fun might not be as much fun if ur doing 10-20% less
My only point is that they are making classes absolute trash to play
Tuning is separate
Which is always good if ur not a bamkin
Well we were already trash to play, so anything changed and it was better
Everyone on boomkin tww levels of boring, and now we get to have fun surely
Just do less dam
Yeah i just think its sad that their design philosophy is making shit boring
what in the helly
Gotta tear it down to build it back better
Hopefully that is what they are going for
this is the better
then we're doomd
they worked on this for a while
eh i think they're focusing on what's important
pushing out faster content/raids/etc.
ah yes, just whats needed, faster shit
Who needs faster raids when it takes on average 5 months to get AOTC
they are focusing on the real content which is housing obviously
raid is just for collecting stuff
this should be fixed now btw! thanks to gastank
Good morning krusty crew
Can someone figure out did Blizzard accidentally remove all boe items from Amidrassil trash?
ty @normal pilot
thx for headsup
Hi! Sorry if this isn't the channel for it. Is there is a bis list out there or a sim that I can be referred to for boomkin in s1 midnight? Thanks!
im sure wowhead will have one eventuaslly not like it matters but ya
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does someone know why the ui keeps getting reset?
it doesnt save
Conflicting addons maybe?
ya id guess its an addon
BCDM wants the changes made in the addon not in wow editor
I think sometimes after an update the ui doesn’t save
Not sure about that one though
Probably an add on thing tho
Got Grid2/FrameAnchorUIBuilder/BCM/UUF
yea i gotta move it from bcm ur right
and player health etc from uuf
Not yet no
Assume u prefer mastery items with some haste and crit
Yea stop using edit mode it's shit
ty
hate these workarounds just for a prefered ui
i mean .. its just the way uuf/bcdm handles it. if you dont like it, dont use it
i mean going from weakaura to this
as someone who doesnt know shit about addons
i just had to go to wago and impurt druid ui
fair
I had the same, what helped me was to create a new edit mode profile with a new name. Then start from scratch, have not had that problem since. I suspect it had something to do with the fact that I started with a profile which I made before pre-patch hit.
i worked it out. it was bcm and uuf where i needed to move the ui around
not from blizz ui edit mode
How do I use starsurge procs properly in aoe? Do I use them to get maybe starfall procs or do I ignore them?😄 It feels kinda weird to press starsurge when there are like 10 mobs gathered
use them on priority mobs that are in the pack
Thank you, so I use them immediately?😄
U should still be prioing pressing starfall procs first
But yea, send them because it gives hail of stars = more solstice
but yea in a big pack you shouldnt press starsurge at all unless its a proc
Okay thank you, helped me alot🫡
@craggy sonnet we op yet
yep (don't check)
ok (not coming back then)

balance will be fun
theres almost a 1 in front of the number
op
so you saying there's a chance?!
i'm labeled as a coper
❌
i dont think its that bad :/
I looked at the apl and I can find about 14k dps in optimizations
dont tell anyone tho

is that 14k on top of the 4-5 i already put on it or
i just wanna get plowed so bad
trust
sorry
boomkin gonna be solid
wrong chat
for sure

resto or feral chat behaviour right there
boomies do the plowing
thoughts
imma get plowed by my RL for pulling aggro to dmg
Using that pot is cheating
no its not
yeah nice bro
get good rat
move out of it
ya waddle out and lose dmg
skrill issue
big apl optimizations
sim isn't waddling man
Im just mad that it'll cancel convoke gonna be real
you can do that without the help of the potion though?
imagine playing convoke in 2026
I dont want to cancel convoke ?
you guys are gonna be nightfae??
btw psure they fixed it insta silencing u
the number is just 1 though
convoke is bis for prog
because you will be top of the meters on the opener and then wipe early
see it no silence
casting the wrong SPELL WTF
thoughts?
more than 0
bro we top 5 guaranteed
me when I don't read
REAL
make convoke base when
it's already based
top 5 for buffs? for deaths?
i have one better than this
made it Wrath between the Solar and the treants
to spend the instant apex talent and fish for cosmos
but I haven't simmed anything since the apex talent thing got fixed with incarn
all that matters
Ok its not cheating anymore then
also Arctic has PI enabled in his sims
but there isn't a line in the APL that makes PI work so it doesn't matter
bodo not frauds confirmed

Ya nice one
we're massive
LMAO
@vital hound
italian football? horribly fraudulent
top 5 dps baby lets gooo
but also not surprising that Bodø won
yeah but..

the astroturf
it's Febuary 2026 everywhere
yes ik
idk if thats true
thats why i said wait for gamz to make it wrath between solars
given different calendar systems...
it's not on mars
thats not true
I will not do that
are we able to change nameplate colors based on our dots? or is this functionality gone
is gone
aw man 🙁 thanks
LMFAOOO
this is pretty
why does it cast eclipse before goign into incarn
have u considered its better 👀
im asking why it is better
doesnt make since whats the benifit
putting eclipse on cd maybe extra bolt and instant cast wrath
oh
but gamz still having fun
this is what the wowhead guide states ...are we playing the same game
are we back or is it over? havent paid attention to anything
seems like ur back
fair
should continue to read after that
it just talkes about how we ddont have agency over our talents
so the talents are shit and the base class does dam
should i be tracking starlord is that a thing still does it matterv to track it
i know to cast 3 ss or sf after entering eclipse
probably good to know when eclipse ends and u can spam wrath til it ends if ur going to be outside of eclipse for an extended period of time
i definately track eclipse ya
its likely not that big of a deal
well starlord last 5 seconds longer
seems almsot passive
or free at that length
one last question for this line its basicly saying use trees when u can be in solar right wether its with incarn or just solar eclipse used ?
for the duration
u generally trees on cd.... with that (on cd part), you want to use it with more cds.... so eclipse and incarn
ok got it
👀

does anyone know what Addon is used with this Gamz profile?
bettercoolodownmanager
but what u linked is just hte cdm string
yeah I copied the string, but noticed it isnt the full thing. Thansk for the info.
copy the edit mode string
the text above says where to paste it
but also refresh your page
i just removed the rogue [/span]

his ui is also linked in the #1463264793854083204
i would instead just look at the addon recommendations and other free UIs linked in there
and just mess around with things until you feel comfortable
i just wanted the cooldown manager package. Reminds me of afenar. I got the rest of the UI all set.
Thanks for all the help guys.
It worked!
hm who's on beta that can check how much stat the alchemy stone give
or is that not avail from vendor
dont think it is
unlucky
how much does the buff give or can't you not make it
i just looked it up on the crafting table
unlucky need to check the actual buff
don't healers use it for the pot part or something
^ You also play DH?
not like healers get trinkets on prog anyway 
somewhat of a DH prodigy
Same xD
Might be a dumb question but I'm still new to some things of retail such as professions: fron my underdtanding they reworked them in a way that every expansion they reset in a way, is that correct?
the professions are no longer like 500 then u level to 600
u learn the "midnight alchemy"
and it starts at 0
I'm unsure what professions I'm gonna be doing in midnight but I have this week left to do something if it's of any value going into next one
Yeah yeah I know that
I randomly skilled herbalism to 100 while waiting to join queues in m+ xd
i always just sit on alch and enchanting
Without putting much thought into it
Yea the actual leveling of the profession is quick, the rest goes into the spec trees for it
Hi guys, just came back to wow since Legion xpac. Is astral form gone?
I was thinking as some "starter" professions to do herbalism and insc so maybe I could craft myself one item or two
Its still a glyph
I had the glyph before, do I have to rebuy it?
Have no clue how hard that is tho
Well, not a glyph but its an unlock at barber
barber, i will check ty
I bought it a long time ago
ur moonkin form would have like an arrow at hte bottom in the spell book
if it was on
otherwise ull have to rebuy it
thanks guys, looks like I had to rebuy. Good thing only 6g

I imagine there's gonna be some meta profession or method for making gold quick
wagwarn
smh i abused a +6 haste enchant

anyone know what the deal is with the balance icy veins guide
it basically just says "keeper of the grove is better for everything" and doesn't even supply elune's chosen builds
well one thing is it seems that's very much not the general consensus
it's prolly not updated
second most guides i've seen supply both pages even if one is more optimal
is close
wowhead is updated
wowhead guide writer needs fired
also, ur not gonna get a consensus until probably raid week
i was checked out for last season was it actually the case that keeper of the grove was better for everything?
ok well then my point very much stands whats going on with that guide
(we are all making things up)
like i said just not updated
well its not updated and there wont be 100% accurate info until raid week
as stated
wont actually be 100% either... maybe 90
spec has kind of sucked for a while nobody really motivated to do much
see how the raid goes and what we play
wtf
imagine the downfall
peak of fame
@lucid olive is there any idea of how much of a buff balance needs to catchup to other top specs not counting demo that shiut is beyond broken
just curious what u think
also profile looks good for raid ya?
Yeah gamz hows is your pprofile looking
grow up
How's your profile looking gamz
yeah @lucid olive hows it looking
@loud kettlehows feral looking lol
Well guardian is highest simming druid spec so like why play anything else

A tank is infinitely tankier than a dps
Unless it's a prot paladin
but... flap 


Can I have some
BAER likes chicken
did they keep the great vault rewards for m+ capped at +10s for max rewards?
whats ripcord one
healer buff tracking
ah lol
"this is dumb and you should not do this blizzard, you'l never fix it before launch"

i muted the news channel on our guild discord some time ago cause wowhead just keeps spamming content baiting bullshit
but that means i never see important stuff either 😄
just revert addon changes
and stop designing dogshit boss mechanics you need weakauras to solve
yes m+ capped at 10
everything got reverted
idk what even changed
u dont need valorstones to upgrade gear anymore w
only good change this xpac
listen that makes too much sense

no but hes just right
for one time in his life
doubt blizzard even knows thats the most logical solution
they "need" to keep making crazy style mechanics
because
yea
right they do say that
but just make them fast
or combo them with something
and u dont need a weakaura to solve them
if u give ppl jailer holes
yea of
that shi blows
apparently they only caved for healer buffs cause the healer nerds figured out a weird ass way to do it anyways and they couldnt do anything against it so they had to make it not private otherwise everybody would complain they have to hack the game
but the way it "combos" mechanics is something they should steal

ragebait but
i need to interact with this
and say ur wrong
idk I only did the first xpacs raids so
i think ff has a big difference of their mechanics are very scripted and wow's arent
yea right
atleast half of them were more like ddr
silken court is
with being in the right spot
closer to making an ff fight
ff has some rancid visual clarity
but you'd have more than 3seconds to get there
than literally any fights next tier
worse than wow honestly
yea bro
trust me it gets better with newer raids
kappa
penis
simply not possible
I like FF's fight design but for very different reasons then how I like WoW's
tail addons? login
i hate that its like homework
every time
I initially thought the lack of addons would suck
yah
but I guess thats only because I started wow first
love to learn patterns
Thats actually the part I like, I can memorize a fight and just do it
tonight we are going to focus on resolving this mechanic and then wipe 5 seconds later to the next one 
full 100 page pp presentation
saying wow boss fights arent homework is wild
I can also just kill allies if I wanted alot easier then WoW
whole night of just wiping to a 2s pattern
yea thats rly aids
yet ff is
p3s prog made me suicidal
u need to roll a priest or evoker
ya
guy
Nah I can yank people in ff too but its funnier walking ontop of them with a stacking tank buster
that fight sucked
how do u make
orange on orange
its
worse than anything ive seen in wow
actual crime
and spell effects just dialed to 20
ive generated
cant play at night
so much hatred for ff14
eyeballs flashbanged every 2s
i could flame that game for hours
still cant believe I started my job quest then quit and forgot about it, gained 20levels and was like wheres my buttons
purple on purple
yea but its legit worse than wow
blue on blue
how the fuck
u would think
is it worse
there's a lot more flash in ff
💀
wow is bland with bland spell effects so its muddy
AND THAT FIGHT IS WORSE SOMEHOW?????
????????

the worst part is by far the forced main story
wdym i have to play through 300 hr of story content
cause they arent the same btw
just for ur grp to say
lets go prog this ultimate
(its the oldest one)
and its like ur playing on oce server in wow
even worse actually
i just play two mmo's now, gw2 for fun collectors stuff and wow for raiding 😄

praying for riot to not fuck theirs up
Login deadlock
yea im probably gonna gg quit wow raiding after this tier
but the matchmaking is horrid
Fr
the new wow killer lol
and go lock in deadlock
the person that made convoke is working on riot mmo
Yeah the ranking system is horrid
riot's mmo is not coming out this century
all im going to say
its fucking
Riot mmo will never see thev light of day
DOOMED
Biggest cope ever
I have 200 hours getting put in games with people that are in their 2nd ever game
ok mby
😭
Fix it valve asap
i have the opposite issue
im like
30 hours
200 hours in a game thats early preview is respectable
meirl when I started with friends vsing people that had played since alpha
and ge tplaced with people who have 1k
the matchmaking is balls
The games been out for ages mate
we queued with robin first game
and hes like
chall
Robin and dopa are both nuts yeah
so he dropped a 50/0
yea also true, i just quit it back then cause it was borderline unplayable first time i tried and came back like 2 weeks ago
and we were all like 5 kills
Not quite chall, more gm
i dropped like 40 kills my first game
and then the game was like
"ah ur not new here"
and ive been getting fisted ever since

Bro I originally played first week of the invite beta shit
Didn't play for ages
Came back in Jan and got put in dia equiv lobbies
It was so fucked
am I a gamer yet
Archon or
i do NOT belong in archon
i played a game yesterday
and got fisted by russian duo
with 10hr in the game
and each a vac ban in cs

But imagine I came back after a year of not playing and was put in phantom btw
That was so fucked
And then I queued with robin and dopa and we won so I started ranking up 😭
Their smurfs are only like 1 rank below their mains
game just tilts the shit out of me
Rn I couldn't care less if I'm winning or losing most games cause it's still early access and I'm still learning infinite
all I see is one common denominator, kekkers
I just started playing gun characters and beaming people
Viscous has changed so much as a character
He went from
Spirit maxxing ball damage
To full gun
Now he's just like a shit support character that just punches
Maybe that games saved tho
U can queue it up again @round field
The last time they did a change like this I dropped from oracle to arcanist xd
ye i saw they made fixes
but didnt queue afterwwards
i need to be dropped like 3 ranks
what i found in deadlock is that the recommended builds are pretty shit, better use one from the build browser
immediately got much more playable 😄
didnt know for like 2games you can/should sell early items
at all cast
yea but they are sorted by most used or sth so just take one of the top ones that sounds good and has decent categories and youre good
idk what metro means
ahh
You just gotta find the good names
the blob
ABL, Lystic, Oses
The names in the screenshot bro 😭
wait ifix
Metro tried to convince the entire deadlock community that every single hero should be rushing 4.8k green with no exceptions
That guy's a freak
xD
i like the ones that have a defensive category and tell you to buy at least one of those and u can choose situationally
its so good
unless ur playing against it
similar vibes to melee haze
that shit is unfun to play against
I played against a hacker yday
Not fun
Haze that was hitting only headshots, taunting in all chat about where you can buy the hacks from
Funnily deadlocks not a game where hackers can auto win cause you can just hatecrime them with curse and shit. But that requires a human team
the hatecrime is real in this game
sometimes its legit miserable
when i have to play against double curse and doorman mokrill
i fucking hate doorman
I intend to play feral for m+ but i really dont want to commit to shred all night long for raids. how is boomie looking in signle target? terms of "fun"
want the short or long answer
give me the short one and i'll ask the long one if it seems worth
uh
dog
wrath = shred
surge = bite
moonfire = rip
sunfire = rake
ur pressing shred all night long for raids except now it has a cast time
chicken st hasnt been good since like shadowlands
eclipse = tigers fury
starfall would be rip dont you maintain that now or is it only in cds?
pretty sure starfall is like
old primal wrath
when you spammed it instead of biting in aoe
all the pictures i've seen oi and gamz post of what the sim does have had a starfall cast in there

One can hope
oooo
until we actually have working sims
that makes sense
The only somewhat interesting talent
yeah but what do they know
whats cosmos again
the one that gives you a free spender when you cast fillers?
i fucking hate that thing
so you have a talent that gives you a free spender when you cast a builder and a talent that gives you a free spender when you cast a spender 
plus the free starfall can give us a free surge aswell
thats probably why its worth playing at all
ye
(it will proc when ur overcapping ap)
cause chance for free surge from starfall is actually higher than other way around, 40% or so
ya its 20 40
only 20 on surge?
i think so ye
ye
ye
Starweaver
Talent
Requires Druid
Starsurge has a 20% chance to make Starfall free. Starfall has a 40% chance to make Starsurge free.
i lowkey need to quit my job so i can play deadlock for 12hr a day
just lick some hand grips in the train
i work from home 
just like support for a online store
yea its good to get out of the own flat a bit and speak to people 😄
fr
i go demon mode when i dont leave the house
even if its for like 30 mins to get some fresh air
i love the days where the only time you speak is when you go to kebap store and order
1 döner mit allem und scharf bitte
xDDD
oh noes
🥀
xD
i mean the job is relatively easy
i just cba talking to people
cause some are rly fucking dense
yea wouldnt be for me either
Takes one to know one
Finnish hospital
the links on UI packs not working or am i dumb?
ok ty
imagine what they are thinking when they talk to you
ohhhhhh 🔥
🥀 ts ain't it gng
i can actually fake being nice
every job i worked i had to deal with customers of some sort
thats why ur always an asshole
coming from u thats rich
Good morning everyone, what do you think the balance will be for raids and Mythic+ at the start of the season?
there doing a tuning pass right when season opens so that all depends
you know its bad when i call you an asshole
that just means ur a mega asshole
right dunce? @royal zenith
mean
its just childish behavoir i see alot from my nephews and alot on discord
have toact tough on discord lol
is true
id wait for midnight to launch before good guide videos come out
nope
anything you produce as a guide rn could be wrong next week basically
this
not if ur the goat
show me the goat
Hi
lolno
@csh
never saw that one coming
look at that tongue
soooo originalll kekkerrsss
goat
i can flame deux as much as i want
because were friends
not that you would know what that means
sure
okay thanks
So the dryad ap buff doesnt work on trees and what else?
Bunch of shit
ok it kinda doesnt matter than
Affects AP generated from casted spells like Moons, FoE, Wrath, Starfire, Sunfire and Moonfire.
Does not affect AP gained from Shooting Stars or Treants
I lied not a bunch of shit
Is fine, it.would be like 2asp diffy
how hyped are we for tomorrow though
about this much 🤏
if looq means poe reveal then my hype levels are like
beyond max
but yeah EA starts on friday right?
cause this is related to wow
oh it is EA
tomorrow i end work 4 hours early
no way u paid for early access
I bought midnight/ea like 6 months ago
I think that's just the poor inside of you talking
which is fine, I don't discriminate
nah
its just a waste of money
log in few days earlier
hit max lvl
log out until reset a few days earlier
deficit
that's a fact
📉
but so is drinking beer
(for legal purposes, that's a joke)
smell the roses
do whatever
leveling in this game sucks ass
don't have to stress on a workday about being ready for farming the rares on reset
thats just ur opinion man
thats just psycho behavior
farming rares for rep
df s1 rares went hard
okay but we can just bury this discussion instantly
cause you're a LoL player
touche
hello
time to spend time with the family
any recomendations for a youtube video on how to play balance? Completely new to druid and trying to figure things out but cant seem to find much for midnight/prepatch. Have read the wowhead and iv guides, but I've a visual person 🙂
Nobody credible has published a video guide yet
I know @wicked shuttle is doing one but probably still a week-ish away
literally just found a guide he release 2 hours ago, thank you
Ok this guy is lying tho
when he asked me about thumbnail
Lol
think so yeah
They were daily at the start of TWW, and changed
Uhh they weren't last season so idk
they were seasonal all of tww
Legit confirmed in interview
Well tekr
From wowhead
I ain't watching that, thanks for doing it for me
I ain't reading that
guess they do it like this for m0 too then or
you can enter but only the 4 new dungeons
Its definitely a clickbait lol
Yo, new to balance. In general do we use starfire/starfall for anything above 1 target?
Ok lol
starfire if ur playing ec yes, otherwise likely not... maybe some cool owlkin frenzie maybe
Starfall we are likely playing weaver, which we will be pressing starfall on 1 target with procs yes
All 8 midnight dungeons will be available on m0 on a weekly lockout starting March 3rd. They will drop 3/8 veteran(240) gear for the two pre season weeks. When season 1 starts, they will swap to the eight season 1 dungeons and the item level will be increased to 1/8 champion (246)
@craggy sonnet @exotic perch
Since you guys were asking also
nice its march 3rd cool i dont have to try
thanks for confirming
Is that in the interview somewhere
yeah, best you watch it again
I didn't watch it in the first place
Which part
The weekly vs daily part
Cuz people think m0 are daily
Just wanted to point somewhere or take a picture of
they shouldnt be
last few expacs you get 2 weeks of m0
then slam raids at low ilvl cause its first tier
That's what I thought, but people said m0s were daily s1 of TWW, and then uhh zorthas said it was but they changed....
I remember doing m0 for the ring out of megagon but it was weekly lockout so
They were daily for exactly one season in tww and have been weekly ever since
Tis what I thought, but maybe the made daily cuz start of expansion, I didn't know if it changed back
@lucid olive can't wait for people to notice wowhead opener and what tettles said opener is different
During the same conversation They talked about how they don't want players to be forced to do content that they don't want to do just to get rewards in regards to m0 vault. I find it extremely unlikely that they will have daily lockouts of full veteran gear for 14 days
I think that if they were going to change it back to daily they would have mentioned that
Otherwise I think it's safe to assume that nothing changed
Because it would be a change to go to daily from weekly
unfortunate
Smh, doesn't know Crit is good
May be confusing it with remix, they were dailies in remix.
I shall not believe anyone, and just remember they were weekly when I tried to get the ring from mechagon
No, they were dailies at the launch of TWW
and then made weeklies again for season 2
omg omg omg
💯
either die a wowhead writer or live long enough to see yourself become a youtube guide villain
tettles guide 
what's this class design bliz
why we got incarn and eclipses to click
feels scuffed
It’s objectively better
How did you enter eclipse before?
having to press 1 button instead of casting 2 spells for 4 seconds 😭






