#balance
lament sigil
lucid olive
can't have the game be too transparent
wild dune
make the game more approachable to new players but keep the talents vague so they have to go to a guide anyways !
lucid olive
i think its always been
craggy sonnet
i thought someone tested and it was random
lucid olive
Bolts were random
lucid olive
Meteorites had a bug a month ish ago where it had no max range too
So as long as you could target the mob you just needed to press Starfall and itd aggro
craggy sonnet
actually .. cba
if you say its target always
then surely thats true
makes it much better tho
damn, i did find it. and it was gas saying it
now im conflicted
lucid olive
has gas logged in since voti
craggy sonnet
idk
i will just run with your version cause that makes the talent that much better
big prio
plucky valley
learning meteorites is a st talent gave me the ontological shock of a lifetime
lucid olive
i will just run with your version cause that makes the talent that much better
yeah i'm probably wrong actually
common L
craggy sonnet
dont do me like that .. im on a rollercoaster
plucky valley
soooooo is this a funnel talent?
plucky valley
thats insanity
lucid olive
it definitely is full random cause i went and checked my Soul Hunters from last week
I never swap targets on that boss (fight takes 1 minute why would I)
royal zenith
wow players still grasping for anything remotely related to funnel...
plucky valley
wow players still grasping for anything remotely related to funnel...
you're just a big meanie
lucid olive
there are not a lot of specs that have actually real funnel in their kit
plucky valley
full of mean
lucid olive
probably just like 1 or 2
most of the things people perceive as funnel is just "hitting more targets give you more resources"
i.e wild mushroom
lapis ridge
is the cooldown manager broken? im trying to import different UIs and nothing works, i partially cant even set a name to accept the import
glossy lance
Hello! Is there a replacement addon for WA which shows whether you are or not in moonkin form ?
jaunty blaze
missing class buffs shows that among other things
eager raft
most of the things people perceive as funnel is just "hitting more targets give ...
How is that not funnel
craggy sonnet
"funnel" gonna come from rank 4 capstone
there is no funnel there
sturdy pumice
A council fight, preferably dinosaurs. So maybe next troll raid
lucid olive
How is that not funnel
that's just aoe not funnel
real funnel is stuff like TWW Reaver's Mark for DH
eager raft
the specific example of mushroom, sure
lucid olive
"deal damage to your mark equal to % of damage dealt to all enemies"
craggy sonnet
technically mushrooms does have a very slight funnel component
fossil hemlock
Funnel is just doing something to secondary targets to do more damage to the primary target
Whatever form that takes
eager raft
But if by hitting more targets you get more resources which allows you to do more damage to prio target
That is the definition of funnel
glossy lance
missing class buffs shows that among other things
Thanks
craggy sonnet
but its so weak that it doesnt matter really
royal zenith
the specific example of mushroom, sure
"hows that not funnel"
"yeah this specific example isn't"
royal zenith
Whatever form that takes
UHDK when their attacks deal damage to their surrounding targets...
fossil hemlock
UHDK when their attacks deal damage to their surrounding targets...
Reverse funnel
eager raft
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Bro he used an example that didn’t even match his own point
fossil hemlock
eager raft
Dumb ass deux
royal zenith
:)
eager raft
Do u ever take a day off
royal zenith
when expansion releases
eager raft
I meant do u ever take a day off from being frustrating
reef mist
Has anyone tried using bcdm combined with ArcUI (for eclipse tracking in a bar)?
I'm kinda scared it will fuck everything up 😄
royal zenith
Im using bcdm for cast bar / power and arcui for the eclipse cooldowns (bar-shape)
not using it for CD tracking tho
not much you can fuck up I think tho?
reef mist
Yeah.. worst thing i experiment and deinstall something again..
But after the whole ui shit i've been through i'm a little bit anxiuos 😄
royal zenith
Pretty much yeah
you have to install something and start working with the tool, you'll figure out fast enough what works for you
#1473018731687841853 message
Big list over here
reef mist
true that. thanks for confirming at least the adons don't fuck each other up instantly after installing
royal zenith
define fucking each other up?
if you run 2 cast bars from 2 different add-ons, they will
or at least overlap each other and you'll have 2 of the same
reef mist
like even if i only wanna use arcui for ecplise buff and for nothing else, i could imagine arcui trys to reskin something else and "battles" with bcdm for the right to reskin 😄
royal zenith
ah well, just gotta make sure you turn off the feature per addon if you're not using that addon to adjust it
can also just try something like elvui
dunno, whatever you prefer honestly
reef mist
meanwhile chatting im already trying arcui and for now it seems to working as planned
thanks alot!
royal zenith
glad helm
so 2+2=4 yes?
quaint wasp
there is no funnel there
thats why its in ""
delicate perch
Hmmm
quick plank
BAER here to bring news BAER fixed Hooterchat for you hooters, so its available again
jaunty blaze
jaunty blaze
filthy healers man
abstract parrot
healers aren’t people and im tired of acknowledging them as such
errant flint
Well that “bug” I had for not getting 50 ap ooc. Was a stupid elvui setting I messed up.
But now the tier list has dumpstered us thanks tettles
That spear looking real good again
Or are we intentionally sandbagging here with boomy?
errant flint
No youre supposed to say yes bc then its not as bad as it is. But it is bad and am sad bc I like this dumb spec.
royal zenith
if you like it, play it?
junior parcel
Any issues with tuning are temporary at worst, "might not even be still the case at release" at best
Playing a spec you like + you're good at >>>> playing the meta
jaunty blaze
Tuning is still ongoing and will continue
It will get interesting after heroic week
But Noone can predict how it will end up
Until then play the spec if it's fun to you
lament sigil
if you like it, play it?
Huh
sour rampart
@lofty depot do you understand that your name is even more terroristic now
royal zenith
bro still going on about that 
sour rampart
im hoping someone will unpin a compliment to a boomkin
royal zenith
"I'm so mad my guild brought it up"
"I will now tag the person in the discord and make it 'relevant' AGAIN for 50k people to see"
sour rampart
How have I managed to avoid you for weeks and all of a sudden you're here every day again
royal zenith
muhahah
sour rampart
terrorist
royal zenith
it's downtime, soon the tier will begin
I didn't even realize that EA is already this friday
sour rampart
arctic has no genius
royal zenith
gearing is worse than leveling
sour rampart
gearing is the most fun
royal zenith
(is what I say rn, but will cry after finishing campaign)
lament sigil
gearing is worse than leveling
Based
jaunty blaze
Surely
royal zenith
larias made a guide about it, surely he knows
don't remember if there ever was a leveling skip
don't think so cause I still had chars at lvl 70
sour rampart
is there a max level campaign again
idk about skip, but yeah there will be the normal weekly campaign until raid finishes
at max level
craggy sonnet
i cant remember .. for some reason you had to do that one on alts, or?
to unlock something
sour rampart
I didnt play s1 so I got to skip it lmao
craggy sonnet
hmm smart
sour rampart
But if there's another "kill raid final boss for crest-type-item" quest
Itll likely require it
But since they removed enchanted crests
not sure what theyll be doing
royal zenith
yeah I believe you always had to at least lvl
but you could skip campaign
aka the questing
and then into heroic dungeon spam..
potent cargo
Any issues with tuning are temporary at worst, "might not even be still the case...
you say this but boomy been bad for 2-3 xpacs now
so how do we define temporary
misty forge
nah bro we fine
lofty depot
But now the tier list has dumpstered us thanks tettles
tier list... dumpstered us.....
lofty depot
u can tell him my name has been "read the pin" for almost a year
errant flint
Playing a spec you like + you're good at >>>> playing the meta
That part. Im not orange parsing yet. Im getting in the dumpster. Just purple heroic parses for now.
errant flint
tier list... dumpstered us.....
Max spoke to tettles. Tettles ranked us.
Blame tettles
lofty depot
tettles is to blame for tuning?
errant flint
No but his explanations and decisions did rank us in the tier list
errant flint
Tier lists I know arent the end all be all
misty forge
who cares lmao
errant flint
we've been in C/D "tier" for ever
I just started in mfo
errant flint
I know nothing of chkm history other than hated by the wow community
We dont deserve the ret treatment
jaunty blaze
Hated because we had 1 good tier
lofty depot
ok ur not we yet
errant flint
How do you think ppl think of rets?
lofty depot
i care very little what people think of rets
misty forge
who cares what they think xd
errant flint
i care very little what people think of rets
But are you aware?
jaunty blaze
10 years later still get called sandbagging because tettles told ppl to get a different covenant
Wcyd
lofty depot
im aware the standard wow person acts like u when thinking their opinon on specs/classes actually matter to that persons ability to play the game/kill mythic bosses
errant flint
Thats not what I asked
lofty depot
u dont know what u dont know
u cant fathom that your thoughts on a spec actually dont matter
errant flint
I know the wow community doesnt put rets in a good light. No pun intended. Would you agree or disagree with community perceptions?
jaunty blaze
Tbf the same applies to almost any gaming community
royal zenith
what's with all this emotional investment
lofty depot
what's with all this emotional investment
frog mad boomkin is in a bad spot of a tier list
stone ledge
Maybe even top 10
royal zenith
also community perception only matters for midrange guilds
royal zenith
^
lofty depot
play better
all those guilds have 8-10 ish players that are decent and are carrying the other 10
jaunty blaze
Imagine a world where ppl don't take tierlists at face value
royal zenith
if you're chasing a higher rank aka hof or higher, then yeh it might matter in some fights
misty forge
"but i wont get invited"
royal zenith
that's factual though
stone ledge
Make your own group then 
royal zenith
cause pugs will always be similar to community perception
(that's why you dont pug)
stone ledge
“I don’t wanna socialize in a mmo”
royal zenith
should try and do as much as you can with the guild in the first weeks anyway
after that ilvl + rio should care
carry *
misty forge
at the point where that starts to matter, you're already probably looking at a premade group anyways
so yeah
royal zenith
now, if you want to feel more useful during prog and play a class considered meta or way better
then yeah
personal choice
stone ledge
It was funny before we got buffed I had all 14’s and 15’s timed start of the season and tried to pug into a 15 flood (last key for resil) and got instantly denied when I had timed a 19 literally 3 weeks prior and they ignored me 🤣
misty forge
but they've been pretty good at making all dmg classes close to eachother lately
stone ledge
At that moment I only did my weekly 12’s and stopped unless my team was on
royal zenith
nothing wrong with that honestly
no point in getting mad at how community perceives things
stone ledge
At least it’s not classic where tanks are charging gold just to play the game 😂
misty forge
bet we'll blast anyways, boomies unite
royal zenith
Ye its super dif per person
potent cargo
good thing with even HOF/top 200 w/e is that you can play anything since ur not doing the same fights as the top guilds anyway
+15 ilvl, nerfs, strats figured out
means u dont need to worry about anything
but practicality wise might as well not nerf ur guild/self by playing something ass
royal zenith
Literally not the same fights ye
Usually youll cop at least one round of nerfs if around rank 200
potent cargo
bc even though you got +15 ilvl at top 200 world you're playing like you're -10 ilvl from skill gap anyway 
delicate perch
-10 is being generous
lucid olive
I know the wow community doesnt put rets in a good light. No pun intended. Would...
its just not relevant to any legitimate points
potent cargo
community perception is so immaterial especially when it comes to things like boomkin hate because it's entirely predicated by Max from liquid who is a racist so it's whatever
lucid olive
contrary to popular belief, negative community perception about other spec communities do not hold any weight
like the whole "Tettles sandbag" meme
eager raft
Kyrian
lucid olive
or the "i already disagree with Tettles and he hasnt even spoke" comments in Max chat whenever the tier list streams are on
at one point it goes from funny to cruel
and I think it passed that ages ago at this point
jaunty blaze
It's something the spec will never live down
delicate perch
community perception is so immaterial especially when it comes to things like bo...
jaunty blaze
Like rets closing the discord
lucid olive
I also do react the same whenever people talk about the ret discord thing
eager raft
Like rets closing the discord
I’m ngl they deserve to never live that down
That shit was so corny
lucid olive
that shit was just funny and they did it as a meme more than anything super serious
jaunty blaze
It was
lucid olive
but people take WoW too seriously
jaunty blaze
The problem is most ppl can't differentiate between meme and serious takes
lucid olive
it's like they think being active in a spec community is a full time job for some people
like the guy who came in here sometime last year and told me I have a responsbility to update the simc profile that bloodmallet runs...
lucid olive
only responsbility i have is to myself the rest i do because it's fun
eager raft
I agree with People
delicate perch
jaunty blaze
One day Noone will be left to do it
lucid olive
I also think people in here have been overly negative when it comes to Moonkin in Midnight
delicate perch
update the blood mallet one really poorly so random trinkets are 3x better than the good ones
pallid bay
like the guy who came in here sometime last year and told me I have a responsbil...
its your fulltime job
lucid olive
most certainly is not
delicate perch
part time?
lucid olive
I am full time norwegian welfare
pallid bay
my end goal is for this spec to die
lucid olive
with a wowhead guide writer side hustle
eager raft
my end goal is for this spec to die
delicate perch
I'm telling the nowegian tax man
lucid olive
Nah he'll find out next year
we don't file taxes ourselves all that shit is done automagically
sometime next january I get a letter saying "hey you owe us X amount" or "hey we owe you X amount"
lofty depot
america would never
delicate perch
america not smart enough
jaunty blaze
Not smart enough to make ppl work for tax returns
lofty depot
actually they want u to pay the wrong amount or use a website that costs u money
glad helm
it's like they think being active in a spec community is a full time job for som...
They can't go complain to devs so they come to you ofc
Speaking of which
go buff boomkin 😠
lucid olive
devs read forums so maybe they should go there to complain
maybe thats why the classes are all bad now
cause the forum posters are all stupid
delicate perch
wrong
jaunty blaze
The average wow player presses one button and farms old raids
delicate perch
first part only sometimes
delicate perch
no
lucid olive
actually this guy bug reported this on the forum 11 days ago
I didn't even know until like 5 days ago
delicate perch
very smart move I'm just here to ragebait and it works most of the time
lofty depot
actually this guy bug reported this on the forum 11 days ago
whats the over/under on it being bugged for a while and no one knew cuz they all played sundered
delicate perch
2000%
delicate perch
there has to be at least one person who tried it in raid to see on logs
got some method.gg build and locked it in
lucid olive
got some method.gg build and locked it in
i take offense
delicate perch
jaunty blaze
Big guide bought him
lucid olive
the update = placed bunch of texts saying it'll be updated for season 1
lucid olive
Just filled it with disclaimers so people don't read it in pre-patch and come here to complain
jaunty blaze
They do that anyway
glad helm
Masterplan achieved
lucid olive
I have a Season 1 guide deadline for wowhead between launch and raid release, and after I'm done with that I just take a day and truck through Compendium
but there will be overall less info on Compendium than previously
especially the talent explanation parts cause those were always the most time-consuming for a part that not a lot of people bothered reading
lofty depot
@lucid olive
glad helm
I don't think you need to update the compendium
lucid olive
log is from october
so it wasnt bugged in october
lofty depot
it was
lucid olive
oh yeah i just misread
glossy jungle
https://x.com/kiratank_/status/2025309538962858153
bear going to get nuked from orbit
delicate perch
all damage -60%
normal pilot
hm
i don't think gamz is allowed to play balance
ppl that work on druid specs don't play that spec
lucid olive
yeah..
normal pilot
sorry gamz
delicate perch
that's whys a bear main now
normal pilot
you're gonna have to pick something else
lucid olive
too bad all my split characters next tier are druids..
normal pilot
they're just going to have to figure out a way without you
don't want to get banned
lucid olive
yeah, i should break it to them lightly..
lofty depot
wheres gamzuno
lofty depot
lol
lucid olive
he's currently called gamzlemix
lucid olive
yeah thats unfortunate
i'm not allowed to heal
I did a Floodgate with my raid leader once and he died to a debuff I didn't dispel
normal pilot
better to die than get banned for illegal
potent cargo
druid healer so easy bro
payphone shit
think itll be even easier in midnight
i hope i get to heal m+ splits
stone ledge
gamztres doesnt even exist yet
Gotta go Gamztrees
tough willow
looking for some advice or tips i am doing the rotation but dont seem to be hitting my full boomie potential ?
lofty depot
post a log
errant flint
Be me. Getting to debate wow stuff at while getting paid at the same time. Thus getting paid to debate. 
I didnt read anything
tough willow
post a log
know how to share my logs from raids 🙁
tough willow
outofmyctrl norushen
lofty depot
u dont have any
so ull either have to download the app and make one or run a lfr/normal/heroic and hope someone does
tough willow
okay i will get back to you when i sort it 🙂
viral onyx
Someone in A52 is saying convoke doesnt need to finish channel, is this new or are they being trolled?
they hit convoke then hit the next spell
viral onyx
oh lawl
kindred token
I meant I don’t have to wait for a spell to fully finish before pressing the next ability, to spam the next button earlier?
lofty depot
I meant I don’t have to wait for a spell to fully finish before pressing the nex...
thats wrong with convoke
shell void
Checking in, are there public level 90 / 289 5 target sims for balance yet? I looked at the compendium, scrolled, and searched. Didn't see anything. Only seeing War Within sims.
lofty depot
unless u have the cast non-channel macro
kindred token
non-channel macro?
lofty depot
yes
kindred token
like?
lofty depot
ugh
kindred token
Can you share it, please?
viral onyx
#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/stopmacro [channeling:Convoke the Spirits]
/cast [nochanneling] Convoke the Spirits
?
lofty depot
well no its not for convoke
its for other spells
/cast [nochannel] spell
generally u would put it on surge
#showtooltip Starsurge
/startattack
/cast [modifier:shift, target=@focus] Starsurge
/cast [nochanneling:Convoke the Spirits] Starsurge
kindred token
Intersting
lofty depot
Checking in, are there public level 90 / 289 5 target sims for balance yet? I lo...
no
shell void
Appreciate the reply. Thank you.
lucid olive
#showtooltip Starsurge
/startattack
/cast [modifier:shift, target=@focus] Starsu...
this looks cursed
lofty depot
why
lucid olive
idk
kindred token
"#showtooltip Starsurge
/startattack
/cast [nochanneling:Convoke the Spirits] Starsurge"?
lucid olive
over engineered
lofty depot
what part
lucid olive
idk just press starsurge when convoke ends or
lofty depot
or
kindred token
I have gap lol
lofty depot
idk what u mena by the "" or have gap
ur just asking if that will work?
u can take out hte startattack if u want lol
but yes
i just have shift macro... cuz weaver
quiet drift
idk just press starsurge when convoke ends or
How is it over engineered? 😭
lofty depot
and in aoe u prio target surge
quiet drift
0 losses
lofty depot
cotti knows
kindred token
like when I do rotation, my spell have gaps or delay. I'm not sure if that make sense lol
quiet drift
Ive been fisting that nochanneling macro since CN
kindred token
How is it over engineered? 😭
xD
lucid olive
idk i just vibe press that surge
lofty depot
like when I do rotation, my spell have gaps or delay. I'm not sure if that make ...
do u have some funny spell queue number on
lucid olive
yeah that ones good too
quiet drift
I would be inviting omnious energy if I had to do it twice in cds
Honestly dont even need to do that anymore
lofty depot
like when I do rotation, my spell have gaps or delay. I'm not sure if that make ...
/console SpellQueueWindow
quiet drift
Only reason I did was cuz it was bugged w Dryad
Starsurge didnt consume the favour for some reason
lofty depot
/dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")
hmm that doesnt work
unless elv is fucking it up
idk i assume if ur having gaps either u arent spamming ur buttons
lofty depot
or u have some crazy spellqueue
i mean, many people years ago changed their spell queue and just forgot
lucid olive
you guys think tier set is good or
lofty depot
you guys think tier set is good or
tierset good, spec shit
cloud citrus
Shooting Stars
lofty depot
maybe old pc
lucid olive
them stars do be shootin
loud kettle
get ready to learn guardian buddy
lucid olive
the 4pc is just good in general cause starweaver chain procs spenders
kindred token
Sure
eager raft
you guys think tier set is good or
Holy we got nerfed so hard that’s no where near our season 3 dps
lucid olive
get ready to learn guardian buddy
i played it in reclear today
cloud citrus
isnt 31k less then balance O.o
loud kettle
good to get practice on druids premiere dps spec
lucid olive
isnt 31k less then balance O.o
yeah im not a very good guardian druid
cloud citrus
rip
lucid olive
i beat like 6 dps players on loomithar though
cloud citrus
rofl
cloud citrus
well we had 3 dhs 3 druids 1 monk 2 rogues
lofty depot
3 druids.....
lofty depot
smh
cloud citrus
imagine we had a bear too o noo so many leathers
meager storm
olive saddle
Coming back after a break - want to roll back into a Druid - never tried Boomkin - is now not the time?
sudden pawn
lofty depot
Coming back after a break - want to roll back into a Druid - never tried Boomkin...
ull likely be fine doing what ever u want to do
it seems more fun to play than previous, m+ seems like its lacking some damage
olive saddle
it seems more fun to play than previous, m+ seems like its lacking some damage
Thanks - I have never been a strong M+ pusher. I manager to get to KSM sometimes but that is about it.
lofty depot
u can play anything at that level
i also dont think were playting weaver with EC so it might be jsut the same playstyle as before
olive saddle
Any recommendations on a youtuber or guide that I can start practicing the rotation some. Never played Boom.
olive saddle
wowhead is the closest
thanks
delicate perch
wowhead is the closest
Big wowhead closing down small discord expert ran websites
Do not support them
hollow mist
thank you cavey
junior thicket
not getting taken into keys anyways since it will be either guardian druid or resto even if were goodish hihi
lofty depot
i have never had issues getting keys
i pug 150-200 keys the first few weeks every tier
junior thicket
prolly logs
lofty depot
u think pugs are looking at logs week 1?
junior thicket
week 1 no
lofty depot
you invite people and slam
junior thicket
but who cares bout low keys
junior thicket
lol
junior thicket
i was never a high key runner but it started in s2 at like 17
no frens
what u want me to do
sudden pawn
make friends
junior thicket
idk its hard to find chill people that are on the same wave length and on the same skill level
weird to explain but i tried to
in wow atleast
same with guilds im still not in a guild after playing dragonflight s1
sudden pawn
have 2 put urself out there
wooden oak
its tough
you just gotta keep trying
over and over
you may never find your people and you have to be prepared to face that reality going into it
sudden pawn
join a slop guild and just keep going up or if the slop guild is nice and u like it, be friends with them
junior thicket
yea i think i need to actively put me out there
sudden pawn
ya i personally use grindr for that
junior thicket
good 2 know ty
lofty depot
idk its hard to find chill people that are on the same wave length and on the sa...
pugs are not to be made friends
we get in key
i slam and carry them
i leave
often times u wont find key pushers in "slop guilds"
abstract parrot
ya i personally use grindr for that
bis way to find a m+ group that’s toxic enough to push high keys successfully
potent cargo
i slam and carry them
true and real
decline all friend requests
ignore all whispers
glad helm
ya i personally use grindr for that
Most diabolic thing ever invented
pseudo drum
New tech is Pinterest
wooden oak
join party
have to pull everything for the tank
still somehow doing tank damage
nobody seems to care??
this is a +20
get hit with boss melees too
finish dungeon
+2
be tank
shut yacht
,
potent cargo
,
lucid olive
,
sour rampart
is balance 4chan 😮
spare dune
So how we sitting? Anything change?
neon mesa
Sitting on the bench
delicate perch
Sitting on the bench
jaunty blaze
Nope
delicate perch
why would you swap off the best race in the game
delicate perch
nice shadowmeld loser
jaunty blaze
Also why would I give them any more money
Because im sure as fuck not leveling another druid
wooden oak
Just convert some of your goldcapped warbank to wow tokens for a race change ofc
jaunty blaze
About that
wooden oak
idk they just look pretty cool and have the new bis bear form
jaunty blaze
Go ahead king
wooden oak
damn…
delicate perch
What r u melding in raid
melding trash so I can hearth myself to the bench
wooden oak
So true bestie
livid jay
Also why would I give them any more money
still convinced the aggro issues of dh tanks a year or two ago were a plot to get people to swap to nightelf and pay them for it
jaunty blaze
livid jay
yea, who knows when they are going to want their independence again and then we got the salad
languid anchor
Guys, people used to do a sheet in past xpac for what to do day 1 and what prep etc… anyone have that for midnight
round field
i dont understand
why all the dh players dont just reroll to tauren
tauren eye beam does like 30% more dmg than nelf
languid anchor
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGkZ2Cjr0jlv90XqW9vy9VXsVucd-yMCgHd...
My goat 🫡🫡🫡
Thanks mate
jaunty blaze
echo glen
are sims up?
loud kettle
APL is paywalled
pallid bay
!chickenrefugeeguide
livid jay
free paper
vale pebble
free turtle
lyric kettle
real
quiet drift
!tierlist
livid jay
fossil hemlock
It just mislabeled feral as guardian
loud kettle
Not fake just old
craggy sonnet
Not fake just old
(i know)
craggy sonnet
It just mislabeled feral as guardian
oh, thats an honest mistake then.
livid jay
yea old af
quiet drift
Imagine EC went unnerfed
jade flume
bamkin in the sudoku tier
vale pebble
5000 pull bad luck protection gacha avatar
drifting nova
Imagine EC went unnerfed
cant have fun
sudden flame
When are they nerfing moonkin i heard its giga op
stone cairn
neon mesa
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/121880895211831302/1401370561296208043/a2...
We're not last Pog
potent cargo
5000 pull bad luck protection gacha avatar
beach skin when
vale pebble
its haranir
ionic surge
free turtle
The real ones remember 🙏
lofty depot
We're not last Pog
Everyone is last, 8 lock tier
spice roost
The real ones remember 🙏
wasnt he banned for talking about feet or soemthing i cant remember exactly
i just remember it was kinda funnyt
ionic surge
wasnt he banned for talking about feet or soemthing i cant remember exactly
I cant speak
jade flume
I think its sub 10k still
vale pebble
does boomy have a 100k plus sim yet or ?
no
vale pebble
atleast it actually has a decent defensive now
lower than avg still
do not get gaslit these people got literally hotfix buffed
unprecedented nepotism
spice roost
30% hp for 20sec is lower then adverage?
vale pebble
hm?
u got hotw
u lost renewal
its pretty much the same shit some situations worse
with the dmg patterns in midnight its prob worse most of the time
plus u lose globals
but too many things changed u cant just point to one button and say this spec tanky
spice roost
i never said spec was tanky
celest narwhal
i gotta find the video of some dude who ranked all classes tankiness
sudden flame
At least hotw is off the gcd so you can just macro it to bear form or something
vale pebble
eh
minor anchor
I think we actually are tanky, but i dont know the dmg profile of the deadly fights, lots depends
glad helm
i gotta find the video of some dude who ranked all classes tankiness
Zorthas, my goat
vale pebble
I think we actually are tanky, but i dont know the dmg profile of the deadly fig...
its just rot
everything
so
max hp pretty useless
max hp is way shit
compare to dr
spice roost
i mean boomie is just a bad spec in general hiostoricly never good after sod
sudden flame
if u go bear u wont stay bear for 0.1s
if you know a predictable damage instance is coming that exactly what you do
vale pebble
u cant rly base anything off history
vale pebble
if you know a predictable damage instance is coming that exactly what you do
thats the only time u press bear no?
if u press bear at 20% hp its literally worse than not pressing
celest narwhal
if u press bear at 20% hp its literally worse than not pressing
as in i should cast a self heal instead?
vale pebble
also in my head HoTW should be pressed in the healing form
number on it isnt relevant
vale pebble
as in i should cast a self heal instead?
yea if ur dying to rot
ur at 20% hp
u press bear form
and its harder for healers to top u
celest narwhal
yeah it’s pointless
vale pebble
ud rather just press 2 regrowths
celest narwhal
swap back out is wasted hp
sudden flame
i mean hopefully you would press frenzied in that situation
minor anchor
ur at 20% hp
can we atleast agree that I will be pressing Frenzied Regen in this scenario you are painting like 100% of the time
I dont think i ever went bear and did not do that in the past 4 years
and if that is the case you are MUCH easier to top
lofty depot
In 4 years if u were gonna die u didn't bear form
sudden flame
spice roost
so when are u using fr then??
celest narwhal
20% hp = about to die?
vale pebble
can we atleast agree that I will be pressing Frenzied Regen in this scenario you...
sure
yes
20% hp
ur gonna die
aka ur stupid and didnt bear before
or u ego
minor anchor
On Araz in the soak on mythic, u would go to that HP amount
minor anchor
I swear It happend to me! (in my dreams)
nah but obviously you should bear the dmg intake, but scenarios where even in bear I go to 20% from full or maybe im not full I was like 70% cuz Mythic loomithar was low hp and my healers were half dead half panicking and hes about the blast me I need to stand it the soak type shit
celest narwhal
if you are soaking at 20% hp. have a discussion with your healers about why they hate you
well yeah that’s very situational
lofty depot
nah but obviously you should bear the dmg intake, but scenarios where even in be...
Or during loomithar where there's soak, then the spread out push back damage
But that sounds like ur saying 20% from being topped
Which wasn't the argument
But in which case I can still think of plenty of times ur at 80% HP and should bear form soaks
Nexus king soaks.... Dimmy soaks
lofty depot
2-3 stacks with 80% HP should be bear forming orob
Specifically at like 4m or w.e. that time was
minor anchor
i pressed bark as he knocks you back
the 1 minute cd icon
before the circle detonates, i than live it with like 10% or less
minor anchor
I press after I detonate the spread
but im giga flipping it I agree
It should be pressed NOW
lofty depot
U sure as shit should be pressing under 40% HP what
Lol
Bluds like let's test to see if I die or not, hehe
minor anchor
Nah I knew the regrowth would save me
lofty depot
Well the point was u still had hp pot or hearthstone which aren't gcds
And u chose to regrowth with 30% HP
fast elm
Noot a fan of thee new starfire casting animation
Looks frozen almost when chain casting
lofty depot
Who
minor anchor
U using Glyph of Stars?
jaunty blaze
why are we casting starfire not shifted
minor anchor
and what race u playing?
exotic perch
Well your problem is using glyph of stars
fast elm
Nelf
exotic perch
If you wanna play moonkin you have to look like a stupid ass chicken
fast elm
And well, it wasn't a debate about glyph of stars or not, just the animation change 😉
exotic perch
Go play shadow priest if you wanna be glowy
fast elm
You're not contributing spy
It's super static, the animation doesn't end
Weird as fuck
lofty depot
Go play shadow priest if you wanna be glowy
minor anchor
It looks like im cheering xd. Bro im the cheerleader role
lofty depot
Assuming with prepatch
jaunty blaze
its absolutely atrocious xd
jaunty blaze
i hate it change it back
fast elm
Yup.. We ask for a stars update for 10 years, and this is what they give us
fast elm
Nah, wow is an institution. But thanks for your input.
lofty depot
Institution for the mentally challenged
plucky valley
Yup.. We ask for a stars update for 10 years, and this is what they give us
wait wut happened?
nvm i see now
i acrually quite like it
lucid olive
Can someone post
wooden oak
Is that not how it always looked
lucid olive
no
jaunty blaze
no its not
wooden oak
how did it used to look
wooden oak
Suspiciously night elf shaped haranir…..
lucid olive
harronir kept the old one
lucid olive
yes
wooden oak
lucid olive
casting animations are ugly
wooden oak
haranir swarm
lucid olive
the druid forms are ugly
lucid olive
yes night elf casting animations suck too
wooden oak
Horde player…
lucid olive
no i play night elf
wooden oak
Oh
lucid olive
best racial and appearance
all druid races have terrible animations
pick your poison innit
best casting animation is female orc
wooden oak
Yeah but then ur horde and orc
lucid olive
okay actually
the Starfire animation is consistent on other races
looks dumb on orc too
wooden oak
I will simply have to outparse anyone who says haranir is bad so my opinion becomes correct
lucid olive
Races usually don't matter for dmg
except for freak scenarios like the Dryad 4-set in Manaforge
wooden oak
Races usually don't matter for dmg
I know
But if i have a high parse then my opinion on anything is automatically correct
And my opinion is that haranir is awesome and cool
lofty depot
But if i have a high parse then my opinion on anything is automatically correct
Show parses so I can comfirm
wooden oak
Theyre grey 😔
lofty depot
Back to the farm u go little chicken
lofty depot
lucid olive
PSA:
I pushed an update to Mimiron a couple of days ago with an APL for people to sim level 90 characters. This APL is very much a work in progress and not a finished product at all.
For the time being it has mostly just been me writing it, and my knowledge and time to spend on it are both limited.
There's a very real chance that if there aren't more capable people working on it that Moonkin will be undersimming until someone steps up.
If anyone has any coding experience (not that required) and would like to contribute then I am happy to send you down the right direction or answer any questions I am capable of.
loud kettle
(coding experience not required, the "language" is pretty straightforward, my dms are also open if u have questions especially regarding apl syntax)
lofty depot
(coding experience not required, the "language" is pretty straightforward, my dm...
Hey can u make us do damage
loud kettle
im not superhuman
lofty depot
Unforch
lofty depot
Lol
loud kettle
Larias clip no longer pinned, was a good arc
wicked shuttle
Normal activities
ember dock
yo guys, I am a moonkin noob. When my cds are coming back up and dots are not near pandemic window...should I refresh them before popping cds?
lucid olive
you can, if the remaining duration of your DoTs are less than the duration of your cooldowns
but of course the closer the numbers are the less worth it is to refresh before CDs
ember dock
thx 😉
red nymph
Just came back froma long break. Is EC better on PTR than it on live? cause EC feels dead on live
exotic perch
ptr no clue
bc things can change from tuning
so i wouldnt think about the numbers
lofty depot
Depends what u mean by dead
lucid olive
EC probably good in m+
red nymph
what situation would it be used over KOTG
lucid olive
Sims the highest on AoE on beta
lofty depot
In m+
red nymph
in Beta or on live?
lofty depot
Yes
Most of the time ur playing EC, unless ur doing piss keys which then u can play w.e. u want and likely time the key
quick sky
how much for me to do your apl work
just slide me a piece of paper with a number on it
void jacinth
yo @pallid bay i need an oldcel perspective, is every generation increasingly silly?
lofty depot
just slide me a piece of paper with a number on it
slides paper with all the boomkins that have/are playing mage because of his great work so has w.e. number he wants on it
Side note.... Porom, have u seen the old CD condition
royal zenith
is this the part where a mage does the APL for a class and finds 30k extra dps
royal zenith
sexpest... ?
fossil hemlock
is this the part where a mage does the APL for a class and finds 30k extra dps
If only it didn't look a little bit more involved than "press mangle and maul"
void jacinth
lofty depot
sexpest... ?
Surely talking about the ferals
lucid olive
how much for me to do your apl work
unpaid labour for the love of the game
quick sky
unpaid labour for the love of the game
i dont love the game that much 
ngl i do enjoy apl work for the most part though
but its just not the same when i don't care about the spec
royal zenith
so the mages are paying you?
quick sky
and boomie lost my love the moment i found arcane
you don't realize it, chickens
you're all mixing arcane with lesser schools of magic
embrace purity
cleanse yourself
fossil hemlock
cleanse yourself
cleanse dn
lofty depot
you're all mixing arcane with lesser schools of magic
The boomkin pipeline grows.....
quick sky
i'll forgive you for being a boomie if you apologize for it...
lofty depot
I apologize for my mental illness
(I started as mage in legion then played boomie in nighthold)
cloud citrus
you're all mixing arcane with lesser schools of magic
im already there!
quick sky
(I started as mage in legion then played boomie in nighthold)
thats actually funny
thats when i swapped to mage
true viper
Can codex make the apl for us
quick sky
from boomie
normal pilot
didn't arcane destroy the world or something
quick sky
i get around
placid olive
What’s Porom’s number to finish the APL is the question
royal zenith
see, now you know it's fake
lofty depot
if i can't get your sim to warlock levels you'll get your money back
Gonna be here a while I see
Cuz getting over bear is the first step
quick sky
oh sorry i thought this was about the bear apl
boomie huh? okay i'll get you to fire mage levels
lofty depot
Lololol
minor anchor
Any suggestion how to / with what addon I could set up my Eclipse Buff window? I previously liked single bar that would be empty or tick down with duration and change colours based on the eclipse
lofty depot
I've just gotten used to the icons out of fear that anytime blizzard sends a patch all that shits gonna break again
minor anchor
Reasonable aproach, I could tank that
lofty depot
I don't have the names of the addons that do it off top of head
Gamz or clanker might
normal pilot
there's not much point to showing color, but duration and stuff i'm sure you can use any method you use ot track a cd like CA
royal zenith
Any suggestion how to / with what addon I could set up my Eclipse Buff window? I...
arcui can replace the icon with a bar
and you can color it/change size/alter it etc.
Like this basically
minor anchor
Imma try it
royal zenith
does require a bit of setup with duration and inversing it and shit
little maple
just slide me a piece of paper with a number on it
Itll be 10 or less. Can't go higher, not enough fingers
lofty depot
Start donating toes
little maple
So what you're saying is the paper is just feet pics
royal zenith
I'd rather pay for the return of junda
arctic can keep glazing porom in the mage discord
lofty depot
I'll glaze anyone that will do the work on the apl
royal zenith
🧢
little maple
Feet pics for apl is not a bad trade
lofty depot
Doing God's work
quick sky
i mean
royal zenith
Im everything
little maple
And I'm a priest, I'm just here to convince porom so I don't have to hear about boomy apl anymore
final stirrup
hello,
i have got an issue with the cooldownmanager the second i press force of nature it constantly glows like that when i rreload the glow is gone but appears again when i press it
anyone got an idea what is going on ?
royal zenith
and nothing..
royal zenith
where did this come from anyway
what triggered porom?
is it cause of max's tierlist
lofty depot
Guess he saw or got dm'd the psa
quick sky
i was invited to write your apl
royal zenith
please tell me it wasn't arctic
lofty depot
I didn't no
lucid olive
hello,
i have got an issue with the cooldownmanager the second i press force of...
i'd ask in the discord of whatever addon you're using
quick sky
idk what thats supposed to mean 
pallid bay
i was invited to write your apl
start typing..
lucid olive
i was invited to write your apl
no you just spawned here to crack jokes
lofty depot
Got me banging on the sofa... Wasn't me
lucid olive
nothing bad about that though