they do okay
#balance
lucid olive
lofty depot
it was close last tier š
week 1 u couldve played it and likely seen the same numbers kek
lucid olive
week 1 manaforge man
the dryad 4pc not working on the Plexus Sentinel shields and nobody realizing until saturday
spice roost
does it look like the spec is competitive in raid and keys atm on beta cause on live it doesnt seem like it is
lofty depot
define competitive
spice roost
competing with other range in dps
lofty depot
ull probably not be last
lucid olive
if youre good you compete with anybody
spice roost
i do care more about raid
lofty depot
why is that
craggy sonnet
why is that
dont let him treat you like that
nova ocean
I would worry more about competing with guardian damage then other dps right now
potent cargo
lofty depot
I would worry more about competing with guardian damage then other dps right now
skill issue
my sim about to have a 1 infront of it
nova ocean
Ya cause it's broken kek
craggy sonnet
if its one that gamz sent you, probably
else it might be a 1 in front of sub 5 digits
normal pilot
sounds too high time to nerf
delicate perch
my sim about to have a 1 infront of it
1.00
Season is still dead anyway, itās fellowship time while we wait for buffs 
vital hound
Season is still dead anyway, itās fellowship time while we wait for buffs <a:log...
weird way to spell league of legends
sudden pawn
Fellowslop
delicate perch
Fellowslop
You have an ai moonkin photo
sudden pawn
Nuh uh
delicate perch
sudden pawn
I drew this
delicate perch
Jesus
sudden pawn
Made it with me own 2 paws
delicate perch
Maybe use ai instead
loud kettle
my sim about to have a 1 infront of it
10k dps right
potent cargo
You have an ai moonkin photo
mines ai
straight drip
i love ai
i will never give money to artists
i will give my money to ai slop and increased ram prices
sudden pawn
loud kettle
@lucid olive does boomy sim number start with a 9 yet...
sudden pawn
lofty depot
10k dps right
no 
delicate perch
i will give my money to ai slop and increased ram prices
Pay some degenerate any money ā
pay a computer 0 money ā
true viper
wintry valve
Retail newb hereā¦ my boomie is ilvl 144. What kind of damage should I be seeing in lower M+? Ran a 7 ECO dome earlier to relearn rotation and the dungeons. Overall DPS was like 20k. Feels low, but I know nothing
potent cargo
Retail newb hereā¦ my boomie is ilvl 144. What kind of damage should I be seeing ...
fuck all
dw about it
potent cargo
nah i mean like
boomy aint gonna crank in low content
especially end of xpac ppl will just curb stomp everything
dps is prolly fine considering its low key pug end of xpac etc etc
give it a couple weeks until we're in midnight and then come back and we have a better barometer of success
solar mist
So for Elune's Chosen do I press Wrath at all right now?
meager storm
no
solar mist
Gotcha, thanks
delicate perch
boomy aint gonna crank in low content
not only low content but prepatch too 
20k probs insane
stiff nova
Hey! So I made a new balance Druid in Lemix after not playing my old boomie for several years. Really enjoyed the way Eclipse workedā¦ so naturally they changed it again 
Question I have is: Is solar eclipse just gone? Or if not how do I trigger it outside of celestial alignment?
(Aside from that new total eclipse talent)
grizzled shoal
Question I have is: Is solar eclipse just gone? Or if not how do I trigger it...
if you're playing elunes chosen yes it's not there
but outside of that it's still athing
wicked shuttle
Question I have is: Is solar eclipse just gone? Or if not how do I trigger it...
Read lunar calling
stiff nova
Ah, thatās what I missed - didnāt really look at the hero talents too closely when I was resetting stuff
Thanks!
muted citrus
dude
I'm in st Kilda for the first time
unreal location
city of gods
@potent cargo come here we are eating charcoal chicken in the beautiful Melbourne sun
muted citrus
im there tomorrow lmao
WTFFFF
livid jay
yo nance i made chicken parmy last weekend it was a banger ty for recipe
royal zenith
oh yeah? show proof
drifting nova
a what
livid jay
forgot to make a pic before it got devoured
livid jay
heres a screenshot of my shopping list that i sent to a friend who i made it with maybe thats proof enough
drifting nova
I dont speak dutch
livid jay
thats not dutch 
drifting nova
royal zenith
it's the inferior germanic language
drifting nova
its bavarian
livid jay
not in elevation
drifting nova
got it
royal zenith
nah he just dumb...
livid jay
you buy ears from the shop?
Eier = eggs
royal zenith
kekker's brain is also not that frisch anymore
drifting nova
I also do not speak frisian
royal zenith
that would be something
livid jay
no way u know what frisian is
livid jay
thats actual swamp german
drifting nova
no way u know what frisian is
wdym history is my jam
the closest language to old english
royal zenith
is old english not derived from germanic?
drifting nova
atleast in understanding it
royal zenith
isnt *
royal zenith
š®
drifting nova
just frisian isnt real dutch
royal zenith
"a set of Anglo-Frisian or Ingvaeonic dialects originally spoken by Germanic tribes"
drifting nova
and frisian is closest to old english
royal zenith
ye
royal zenith
they're actually making it a rule in the north of the NL for kids in school to now study frisian language
drifting nova
or the vikings (also where egg came from)
livid jay
why do u know history
drifting nova
I..like it?
royal zenith
history is fun
drifting nova
I did my degree in history
drifting nova
even after a massive roadbump in mandatory education
massivley put me off history
for a while
livid jay
i always hated history in school
was just boring af
now i find myself watching history videos on youtube and reading wikipedia articles quite often
drifting nova
for the end of school exams, the history ones were specifically on two subjects I hated
they werent even real history
livid jay
cause its more interesting than i thought in school
drifting nova
turns out if you're not engaged with the content you'l do worse
livid jay
history in germany was so shit aswell
royal zenith
PE :>
livid jay
we did world war 2 like 50 times
drifting nova
3years of the history of medicine (boring) and something about the native americans (also boring)
not real history
livid jay
little bit of holy roman empire, some german reich shit, some colonialism, some usa
drifting nova
yeah..the hre didnt pop up once
ww1/ww2 about it
hell, not even the fun parts of english/british history
like the civil war
the glorious revolution
royal zenith
the roman empire and shit is way more interesting than what you get at a base-level in school
(if you dont study history ofc)
livid jay
we barely learned anything about other countries besides the colonialism phase and usa
drifting nova
the roman empire wasnt even mentioned explicitly
livid jay
bit cringe tbh
craggy sonnet
sounds like you are just not remembering
drifting nova
only from the outset of ancient greece and ancient egypt (both covered when we were like 8)
nope
livid jay
i mean we did roman empire aswell
drifting nova
I can look at a curriculum from back then right now
livid jay
holy roman empire was just to cope with german history a bit i guess
craggy sonnet
talking about german school
the things mentioned are just like 10th grade upwards maybe
but sure, you are rather young below that
livid jay
i might just not be remembering some stuff ye but it felt like we went through the same stuff 3 times
are u german clankz??
craggy sonnet
ye
livid jay
hooly
drifting nova
ancient greece+egypt, romans in britain (not the roman empire itself), early dark ages, aethelstan, vikings, normans, 11-1400s kinda just didnt exist bar the tudor period (and there was alot of tudor history)
royal zenith
that explains so much...
craggy sonnet
that explains so much...
i think you already knew that and made a similar comment before
royal zenith
I can't remember
drifting nova
having the latter years of school reduced to the history of medicine and native americans was just zzz
craggy sonnet
yeah, thats weird
livid jay
- The Timeline (Chronological Approach)
The curriculum followed a traditional chronological path, starting in Grade 6 and ending with the Abitur (Grade 12).
Grade 6: Antiquity and Early Middle Ages
Prehistory and early civilizations (Egypt and the Nile).
Greek Polis (Democracy in Athens, Alexander the Great).
The Roman Empire (Republic, Rise of Augustus, Romanization, and Christianity).
Grade 7 & 8: Middle Ages to the 19th Century
The Middle Ages (Feudalism, the Church, and life in cities).
The Transition to Modernity (Renaissance, Reformation, and the "New World").
Absolutism and the Enlightenment.
The French Revolution and its impact on Europe.
The Industrial Revolution and the "Social Question."
The 1848 Revolution and the German Empire (1871).
Grade 9 & 10: The 20th Century
Imperialism and World War I.
The Weimar Republic (the first German democracy and why it failed).
National Socialism and WWII: This was (and is) a massive pillar of the curriculum, covering the Holocaust, the "FĆ¼hrer" cult, and the war of annihilation.
Cold War and Divided Germany (BRD vs. DDR).
The Peaceful Revolution of 1989 and German Reunification.
Grade 11 & 12 (Kursstufe): Deep Dives
Students focused on specific "Schwerpunktthemen" (major topics) for the Abitur. These often included the development of human rights, the modernization of Germany, and international relations in the 20th century.
still remember the teacher saying "these 2 cases are the easiest and we chose for you"
royal zenith
I mean medicine is also interesting...
craggy sonnet
im not sure i've ever heard anything about the history of medicine
livid jay
ok yea i guess we did france aswell
drifting nova
..not in a history lesson its not
royal zenith
drifting nova
the whole the teachers choosing those topics because they on paper were easiest still sits with me
easiest on paper maybe but also the least engaging
and an unengaged student isnt a good student
craggy sonnet
1. The Timeline (Chronological Approach)
The curriculum followed a traditional ...
yeah, that seems about right
royal zenith
teachers are basically always vibe-coding
livid jay
yeah, that seems about right
you must have been right, my memory about history lessons pre 10th grade is very lackluster
jaunty blaze
It definitely is right
craggy sonnet
you probably did ww2 as a schwerpunkt in 11 or 12
and thats why it stuck with you
as doing it over and over
jaunty blaze
You just remember ww2 because we get bombarded with it
But history lessons actually cover a lot
livid jay
i mean what also stuck with me is visiting KZ and shit like that but that was earlier, like 7th or 8th grade?
so we must have done some ww2 there aswell
craggy sonnet
granted, whatever you do in 5th or 6th grade .. that stuff may not stick that much
jaunty blaze
Which one have you been out of curiosity
royal zenith
ww2 do be kinda important in EU's history lessons
drifting nova
teachers are basically always vibe-coding
only found it out a few years after school but that years history grades were the worst in a while, I wonder why
craggy sonnet
ww2 do be kinda important in EU's history lessons
just somewhat
livid jay
Which one have you been out of curiosity
struthof
drifting nova
met the very same teacher in the pub 
jaunty blaze
We went to Bergen-Belsen
royal zenith
just somewhat
issue is mostly that our grandparents basically still had connection to that war
livid jay
We went to Bergen-Belsen
yea i guess u just go to the closest one
royal zenith
so it would've always been made more important when we got taught history
livid jay
im from Heidelberg so alsace it is
royal zenith
well it's not really an issue but ye
craggy sonnet
its history you actually still encounter and have to deal with in "everyday" life
so yeah
livid jay
hmm, never knew my grandpa's, all my great uncles died in ww2 except one of em and one of my grandmas still has some questionable pov's in her head sometimes thats all i got from them
i mean im technically gen z with 1998 i think
but not really
i think like 2002-2003-2004 is really the breakpoint
royal zenith
when do you think gen z starts
fuck do I know
drifting nova
at this point idk whats more commonly seen for grouping, the birth year or X event
shifts it 5years atleast
lucid olive
im not sure i've ever heard anything about the history of medicine
unfortunate
history of medicine is interesting
delicate perch
im not sure i've ever heard anything about the history of medicine
aren't you american
it's probs paywalled
drifting nova
im not sure i've ever heard anything about the history of medicine
good, it's boring
lucid olive
checks out, he seems smart
book, i'd like you to meet cover
serene osprey
The one thing I hate with the redesign, is that Eclipse does not have a pandemic window. I cannot recast an Eclipse before the previous one has dropped off entirely.
_A more powerful spell is already in effect. _
_A more powerful spell is already in effect. _
No, even if I'm in Celestial Alignment, it's just two different Eclipse buffs. Why can't I cast Solar Eclipse to extend the duration of the Solar Eclipse part of Celestial Alignment before it falls off entirely?
The beauty of old Balance was that you could time your Wrath/Starfire casts to enter a new Eclipse the moment the old one fell off.
_A more powerful spell is already in effect. _
_A more powerful spell is already in effect. _
Now you have to spam the Eclipse button until it can activate in that GCD.
_A more powerful spell is already in effect. _
_A more powerful spell is already in effect. _
livid jay
u dont really wanna do that anyways
lucid olive
@teal sphinx
drifting nova
lucid olive
that one doesn't even need interactions, that's just a certified banger
idk if he tried to word it like a serious forum post, real feedback or a poem
i am confused
drifting nova
another year, no love rocket
royal zenith
imagine what people think if they read your content @lucid olive
OHHHHHH SNAPPPP
tbh it is kinda annoying you get that msg
but it's good you can't clip your major cd's
probably also better for OBR :3
lucid olive
yeah you probably wouldn't wanna cancel or extend your Eclipse like that anyway
livid jay
also with old system u still couldnt chain them instantly
was always at least one natty builder outside
royal zenith
well you can't really cue it like a cast so yea
lucid olive
you also shouldn't chain them instantly since things like Dreamstate proc outside
drifting nova
dont worry, they'l fix eclipse by the time the last titan comes out
lucid olive
I do get the idea though of pressing Solar when you're already in CA so effectively the Solar part of CA would last 15s longer
but you would still just never do that
drifting nova
I would
lucid olive
wouldn't proc bolts, dryad, dreamstate, BOAT, Starlord etc..
royal zenith
you get used to it anyway
especially when it will be linked to what you said
and you actively try to not clip
(you can't either way)
lucid olive
I think what is the most confusing to people is that it's still named Eclipse
lucid olive
So people approach it in the same way they would the Eclipse system they have gotten used to since SL
drifting nova
that was a passive
lucid olive
when it's a completely different ability
drifting nova
except it isnt?
royal zenith
fundamentally it is
lucid olive
I'm not gonna get baited by Kekkers
drifting nova
it does 90% of what old eclipse did
royal zenith
yeah so that means it has changed
livid jay
are we pooling outside eclipse now btw? It just feels better to do it imo but do we know what the numbers say?
drifting nova
no, the other 10% is its now a cumbersome button
lucid olive
are we pooling outside eclipse now btw? It just feels better to do it imo but do...
uuuh inconclusive, probably best way to approach it is pooling
drifting nova
and stole warrior of elune at next max level
royal zenith
There's camp "spend instantly when eclipse" which is very loud
livid jay
uuuh inconclusive, probably best way to approach it is pooling
ok
it just feels like its more value to go in with full ap and also preserve some eclipse charges unless overcapping
lucid olive
I haven't managed to make a sim where pooling for Eclipse is a gain
but I still think it's the best way to approach it
livid jay
guess just pool if u can and keep eclipse cooldowning
drifting nova
There's camp "spend instantly when eclipse" which is very loud
very the same as passive eclipse, totally differnet btw
lucid olive
yeah, aim for as high uptime on Eclipse as possible
that's also partly why Incarn is simming well
royal zenith
can you even pool properly with the ap gen we have
livid jay
it feels a bit weird when i have two eclipse charges and one ca charge
tank pulls a big pack and i wanna pump but for uptime it feels more worth to go eclipse first to get it cooldowning and then press ca after if the pack lives long enough
royal zenith
going into midnight, statsquish etc
lucid olive
it feels a bit weird when i have two eclipse charges and one ca charge
tank pul...
this probably is worth yeah
lucid olive
can you even pool properly with the ap gen we have
depends on how many charges of Eclipse you have and stuff I think
also Starlord duration
and how aggressively you're spending at the end of Eclipse
livid jay
yea i usually try to pool some during starlord, some passive pooling while redotting or running around and then eclipse once im set
royal zenith
and how aggressively you're spending at the end of Eclipse
I get what you're saying, but you're basically describing pooling in itself
livid jay
cause i been spending quite agressively towards the end but i guess in aoe you wouldnt cause starfall just carries outside
lucid olive
Like you spend a lot at the end of Eclipse and you're trying to pool for 90+ before enterring Eclipse again you're probably losing Starlord uptime in the process, and it's hard to tell which is better there
royal zenith
at least sims will work sometime soon...
lucid olive
sims are working ish
livid jay
if its an aoe situation it might be better to not spend at the end if u dont overcap until starlord is gone cause u can use the ap on a starfall that gets buffed by eclipse and not on one that will be up outside?
lucid olive
the APL is just not that great yet cause it's just me and arctic right now and we're both idiots
royal zenith
Like you spend a lot at the end of Eclipse and you're trying to pool for 90+ bef...
does sim take anything into account rn in regards to this?
curiosity question
lucid olive
not yet
royal zenith
I really wonder how much it will struggle
lucid olive
I think the APL needs a re-shuffle on how it spends and gens AP for pooling to be worth it
royal zenith
with starlord uptime and what not
placid olive
Canāt wait to race swap to Haranir!!! Really enjoy those new forms!! The red-ish/blue boomie form is my fav!!!
livid jay
Canāt wait to race swap to Haranir!!! Really enjoy those new forms!! The red-ish...
the treeform is horrendous
lucid olive
Cause just putting a simple "press Eclipse if above 70 AP and you have procs of free spenders" in the APL was a loss compared to just sending it when Starlord falls off and you overlap with Treants
royal zenith
Interesting either way
lucid olive
like you still end up with moments like this
placid olive
the treeform is horrendous
You donāt like spooky branches?? Cmon mannnnn lol
livid jay
its just ugly š
royal zenith
like you still end up with moments like this
this kinda is a good thing though
lucid olive
here too
livid jay
it means the apl thinks our spenders have value š
lucid olive
yeah they proc 4pc and they proc starweaver that gives more solstice uptime which gives more AP gen and more Orbit Breaker procs
royal zenith
it means the apl thinks our spenders have value š
it's just numbers
lucid olive
it's a fun feedback loop imo
livid jay
maybe its time
royal zenith
royal zenith
yeah they proc 4pc and they proc starweaver that gives more solstice uptime whic...
I think it's time
to have an edit
livid jay
winrate 0.1% cotti
lucid olive
big breakdown
craggy sonnet
here too
damn.. that actually looks like you'd have to wrath into trees into incarn to try and snipe at least one dream burst in there
lucid olive
damn.. that actually looks like you'd have to wrath into trees into incarn to tr...
yeah I put actions.kotg_st+=/wrath,if=buff.ascendant_fires.up&buff.starlord.stack=3
over moons so it would spend the instant Wrath at all
royal zenith
@vital hound when starsurges
lucid olive
should prob make it Wrath for Dream Burst too
royal zenith
I will have it added to the server...
lucid olive
fishes for Cosmos procs too
misty forge
@livid jay bro u at work or u working here fulltime wtf
livid jay
let a man yap xD
misty forge
yap is one thing, bro's holding a shift down
lucid olive
<@174463030187393024> bro u at work or u working here fulltime wtf
are you his boss
misty forge
are you his boss
im his bitch
craggy sonnet
is the instant wrath like actually number wise a gain
its a question of opportunity cost i guess.
you are not losing the surge cast but you are gonna lose dream burst stacks potentially and any chance to proc cosmos
or UE if you play that
royal zenith
yeah that's fair
craggy sonnet
and its free mobility in any case
lucid olive
ye true. but im saying precast wrath before trees
you can't consume dream burst with mid-air wraths
craggy sonnet
oh?
royal zenith
you would basically have to force it to use wrath in that specific scenario if we think it's a gain (that is IF you have the proc/etc.)
which I think gamz did rn?
Im not well-versed in APL, just applying logic
lucid olive
i just logged in to double check if Wrath -> Treants consumed dream burst before replying to him
i didn't sim it to check
craggy sonnet
they changed that like halfway into nerubar cause it dictated our opener
i swear my stacks are still getting consumed super delayed
craggy sonnet
so like, you may not be able to do wrath > trees to consume.
but i always felt like the stack at least gets consumed only after the dream burst actually popped
lucid olive
yes that's true
it's consumed when the Wrath hits the target
but not a Wrath cast before Treants
lucid olive
it should be Starsurge and not Wrath
royal zenith
that does not read as something you can predict
lucid olive
the talent is called Dream Surge..
royal zenith
(the situation that is)
lucid olive
"casting force of nature replaces your Starsurge with Dream Surge, dealing increased nature damage to nearby targets up to 5"
imagine
craggy sonnet
would be nice, yeah
btw, since you are probably using the AP prediction variable for pooling and stuff .. i think i had done some potential improvements to that one
maybe changes the outcome in some cases
lucid olive
btw, since you are probably using the AP prediction variable for pooling and stu...
the variable.passive_asp?
livid jay
how crazy is this guy
lucid olive
how crazy is this guy
delete this
maya can not be allowed to see it
š
i blame my shitty dimensius
lucid olive
How much does one have to play š
the guy probably doesnt get a Minecraft phase halfway thru the season like us mortals..
round field
should turn the wrath green
Just log in classic wow
Can cast all the green wraths u want
royal zenith
That guy casually has 3 chars higher than u
Id argue thatās basically the requirement if you have more than 3 balance druidsā¦
Else what are you doing
livid jay
toxic
spare ermine
do i play elune in m+ and keeper in raids or will that change with apex?
lucid olive
The optimal hero talents aren't really known cause they can still end up tuning stuff
craggy sonnet
how crazy is this guy
ye, i saw that as well. this guy is grinding
livid jay
only person in the guild with this many chars aswell š
not doing it for splits
just out of passion
drifting nova
Can cast all the green wraths u want
out of mana what do
round field
Nice self report
lofty depot
the APL is just not that great yet cause it's just me and arctic right now and w...
Type shit
glad helm
Starweaver just chain procs
goated talent š
lofty depot
Took me 3 hours to get holding weaver/cosmos procs for 1-5s and it was -0.5%-2%
Holding asp for 1 surge was enough, but never wanted to hold for 2 surges
Always sends eclipse right after incarn with like 44 asp
lofty depot
goated talent š
U think good or
round field
Always sends eclipse right after incarn with like 44 asp
thats fine
makes the apl a realistic simulation of the average boomkin player
lofty depot
makes the apl a realistic simulation of the average boomkin player
It's a free eclipse just moves CDs
More uptime, locken
spare fjord
thx goat
eager raft
makes the apl a realistic simulation of the average boomkin player
Nah sorry man itās all about making the sim dps number as high as possible
The true end game is optimizing sim dps
void jacinth
@round field please adress all future concerns with res to me, I am his representative
void jacinth
You dont need to say anything Res
eager raft
But I want to
void jacinth
it can be used against you in a court of stars
round field
i have all the evidence i need
void jacinth
royal zenith
I am purely a vibes gamer
thats exactly your issue..
glad helm
it can be used against you in a court of stars
the court of stars LMAO
eager raft
thats exactly your issue..
Elaborate
void jacinth
pls dont
eager raft
What the hell how are my vibes off
royal zenith
proved my point
eager raft
No I didnāt
void jacinth
should have said "helly" tbf
royal zenith
indeed
eager raft
Invite me to your guild discord server
eager raft
Deux Iāve never been anything but kind to you
royal zenith
round field
thats the problem
i piss on dunce daily
also can this snow stop
ive lost power in my home like 4 times already
fk off
royal zenith
eager raft
<:betterwatchout:1455199733206482954>
Please tell me what Iāve done to deserve this
royal zenith
surely spring soon
royal zenith
Please tell me what Iāve done to deserve this
well one reason is you're a vibes gamer
sims > all
eager raft
Dude Iām not actually a vibes gamer!!!
royal zenith
perception is reality
eager raft
I be crunching numbers all the time
peak night
please be nice
peak night
Iām a boomkin player!
wild dune
pls be nice in the dreamgrove balance channel !
junior thicket
cheer up folks i decided that boomie is s tier today
lofty depot
Shit tier, nice
plucky valley
drifting nova
super shit tier
ebon parcel
which ranks better in ST in mnidnight raid - balance druid or feral druid or shadow priest?
is this correct SP>Balance>Feral ?
craggy sonnet
whichever you prefer
like, nobody knows whats gonna be better when raid opens in a month
lofty depot
which ranks better in ST in mnidnight raid - balance druid or feral druid or sha...
- No one knows
- U can play w.e. u think is fun
- There's no st bosses anyway š
eager raft
cuz thatās stopped us from playing single target talents in the past
lucid olive
cuz thatās stopped us from playing single target talents in the past
yeah
reminds me of the PTR before Undermine
"oh but look at the dungeon journal, every boss has an add, surely we don't play all ST talents all the time"
lofty depot
Well weaver is better on st, so u play AOE talents anyway
stone ledge
Well itās a little different now with mastery changes
lucid olive
is it
lofty depot
Yes and I'm gonna sandbag the convoke sim
stone ledge
Feels like we arenāt completely useless on fast small adds
Definitely still not good tho
lucid olive
so you're blasting pargoth platform or
I think that in a vacuum the mastery change is good, but the power they removed from Sunfire/Moonfire because of mastery they just fed into Shooting Stars instead
lofty depot
Blasting the little adds on bosses 2-4
lucid olive
you'd probably still want to dot adds like Loomithar rings so it's all the same thing in the end
shooting stars gets weird with AoE though so who knows really
i think you'll still be single target merchant while the melee meat grinder and better ranged specs handle aoe
lofty depot
Well it's likely u would do it up to a certain point. Most of the time during prog ur dotting those adds. But later on when they die fast ur not
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> when starsurges
I didn't make that in the first place unforch
lucid olive
Well it's likely u would do it up to a certain point. Most of the time during pr...
that you dot them during prog isn't really relevant to what i'm saying
I dotted Loomithar adds during prog but I still did tank damage to them
royal zenith
I didn't make that in the first place unforch
you can be the better person
the one who improved it
lucid olive
You don't automagically do more damage in those situations because of the mastery change
royal zenith
nice word, automagically
lofty depot
Thought I was losing my mind, brain is fried... Been sick all week
lucid olive
with Meteor Storm maybe, but idk the loss on ST from going meteor over kindling
craggy sonnet
we may not be good on meat grinder adds still
but seems like we be playing basically cleave talents on st anyways
so for extended phases of aoe, we are still gonna be gucci for st
lofty depot
Gonna have to get the focus surge macro back out
eager raft
Gonna have to get the focus surge macro back out
Reroll
lofty depot
No
eager raft
Okay:)
upper anvil
alrighty i havent touched game sincee the start of turbo, how we feeling sir artic and gamz
@drifting nova are you still a thing
normal pilot
kekkers is eternal
lofty depot
Who is sir artic
eager raft
fartic
dense steeple
xd orange parse boomy !
lofty depot
xd orange parse boomy !
3% of that damage is ur damage
Someone gotta play druid buff šŖ
austere sparrow
3% of that damage is ur damage
Even with that calculation not even close to top dps š„²
dense steeple
Someone gotta play druid buff šŖ
just replace it with another ddh bro
lofty depot
just replace it with another ddh bro
NO
dense steeple
if you drop one of the hunters for another ddh too, theres 0 reason to have a boomkin there under any argument
twin lotus
buffs looking good
lofty depot
1.5% dam reduction is very inportant
dense steeple
already 0 healing
kill it faster and you wont take that 1.% of damage from skipping more mechs
void jacinth
xd orange parse boomy !
imagine if this was Live, people would want their money back
alpha state ass game
normal pilot
nobody's askign for refund they're all addicted
dense steeple
imagine if this was Live, people would want their money back
that is live
lofty depot
that is live
That's like saying practice is live
void jacinth
that is live
ik b there must be consumer protection laws against that
lofty depot
Prepatch is fake game
void jacinth
yet i pay real money
lofty depot
Yea but u paid that a year ago
Girl math says that this whole time has been free to play or something like that
copper gate
I have foreseen a buff to boomkin week 5 of mythic youāre all welcome
lofty depot
We'll be buffed before then, fake timeline
quasi kayak
Hello, I used to play healer since 10 years and try to get my grasp onto boomy (ironic I know). Are there any tips what to keep track off? 
I am rather casual in raiding and maybe do keys around the 15ish range when the expansion progresses 
Boomy looked pretty in terms of spells on beta, so I really want to try that.
lofty depot
Boomy looked pretty in terms of spells on beta, so I really want to try that.
Spells doing damage > spells looking pretty
Best suggestion is reading the guide and asking questions
quasi kayak
oki goodies, will do that
lofty depot
The idea is dot things, build asp, dont over cap asp, spend asp. In its most basic form
quasi kayak
Okay okay thank you
dense steeple
where larias guide
craggy sonnet
@sour rampart hope you are having fun
nova ocean
3 percent aura buff coming in a couple hours with the next tuning pass for sure
sour rampart
I'm being spammed in every discord.
craggy sonnet
But you like being here most
lucid olive
Hopefully not
rose wigeon
I used to have an awesome weakaura that showed which eclipse I was in and how long I had remaining in it. Is there a way to do that in CDM in game now and if not is there any addon recommendations for that stuff!
sour rampart
Tonight gonna be fun
craggy sonnet
I used to have an awesome weakaura that showed which eclipse I was in and how lo...
Just show it at all you mean? Or in some special pretty way?
Because you can track eclipse in the cdm as a buff
craggy sonnet
Tonight gonna be fun
I need to know right now what I got to do in 4 weeks
lofty depot
Whats the time frame on me being lenient for cdm issues
craggy sonnet
Already passed
lofty depot
I used to have an awesome weakaura that showed which eclipse I was in and how lo...
so open the cdm...
and u know, but the buttons on ur bar
glad helm
3 percent aura buff coming in a couple hours with the next tuning pass for sure
The copium is real
lofty depot
if we were getting buffed, gastank wouldve said something funny already
craggy sonnet
*rolls d20*
oh shit.. you meant others bringing it up
i thought you wanted to rant about blizz
lofty depot
no i meant people asking about shit that is very easy to fix by.... opening the fucking panel
abstract parrot
larias in hell rn
sour rampart
that scale was fucked
It's way way less cringe
Changes are very good
This might actually be better than tww
lucid olive
X
lofty depot
on stream or
sour rampart
Lol want me to stream it?
I can
It's very boring
No one enjoys watching the sausage get made
lofty depot
i would enjoy someone doing apl writing stream
but always get the "that would be boring stream"
lofty depot
No one enjoys watching the sausage get made
they have a literal network called FOODNETWORK... where they make food
royal zenith
this was way too criminal: "(was 10/20/30/40/50 in Midnight)"
but I mean @eager raft loved it, cause it would mean his friends play the game longer (forced)
never forgetti
lofty depot
but I mean <@301137650428018688> loved it, cause it would mean his friends play ...
but I mean @respectable loved it, cause it would mean his friends guildies play the game longer (forced)
but true nonetheless
rose wigeon
Just show it at all you mean? Or in some special pretty way?
Because you can tra...
I mainly meant in a special way. The aura I used to use was the eclipse hud icon that procs but puts the timer in the middle of it. The icon that only displays for a couple seconds. As far as I can tell the cdm is just going to be like pulling the buff out from the buff bar and putting it in a more obvious and less cluttered spot. Which is fine - was just curious if there was a more stylized way of doing it
eager raft
but I mean <@301137650428018688> loved it, cause it would mean his friends play ...
Thank you for thinkin of me
royal zenith
š¤®
craggy sonnet
I mainly meant in a special way. The aura I used to use was the eclipse hud icon...
technically yes. there are some hooks you can use with the cdm right now to generate progress bars and stuff from auras you can display in there. but i havent really seen them used with more stylized progress textures like you might want
lofty depot
smh
glad helm
gg
craggy sonnet
boosting mage as we speak
lofty depot
give them an inch theyll take a mile
upper anvil
is our rotation the same as S3 of WW? when am i incaring and entering lunar
minor anchor
At the correct times. Hope this helps.
lofty depot
is our rotation the same as S3 of WW? when am i incaring and entering lunar
if ur talking about ec
yes
glad helm
boosting mage as we speak
so arcane barage in solar and arcane orb in lunar, correct?
lucid olive
any other alt enjoyers
lofty depot
log off loser
junior thicket
im convinced 95% of blizzard devs play mage only
lofty depot
whats this
what it looks like to have no gf
meager storm
idk i dont even know how i got one
wooden oak
hi what r ur guys opinions on haranir
Not for like damage or anything in particular but do u think theyre cool
meager storm
best race
lofty depot
idk i dont even know how i got one
ive had one for 15y dawg... she gotta be delulu
meager storm
i like the owl form but a lot of people dont like the animations
lofty depot
Not for like damage or anything in particular but do u think theyre cool
well both of those are wrong so
play a chicken to look like a mage?
meager storm
ive had one for 15y dawg... she gotta be delulu
holy im barely half way
lofty depot
<a:aPES_WTFEyes:642733839973613598> holy im barely half way
shes getting a little to frisky about me buying a 2nd house
bitch better chill
meager storm
lofty depot
i like chicken form
meager storm
some of us do but i mean if u are the one who will play it
its all u
if u like them or not
lofty depot
uhh i doubt i would use the new forms outside of it just being new
wooden oak
I just
meager storm
normie styles
lofty depot
u probably have some furry shit, shutup rat
meager storm
lofty depot
i farmed the fucking dream w.e. teh fuck mounts forever and never got like 3
lofty depot
fuggn fooled me
wooden oak
Iām a biotechnologist studying gene therapy
But if that doesnt work out i really like bats
And iād love to work as a consultant at a bat conservatory
meager storm
alright then choose a race with a bat
wooden oak
because i already have biology credentials
lofty depot
Iām a biotechnologist studying gene therapy
hes the one making the new ai birds
GET HIM
meager storm
ggs
wooden oak
alright then choose a race with a bat
Yea
Haranir
Im really excited but i feel bad to leave behind night elf
lofty depot
"guys i like the bats"... hes studying them to put cameras cuz they see in the dark
I SEE THROUGH THE LIES
wooden oak
Actually theyre really good pollinators
lofty depot
batman
wooden oak
And theyre important in a lot of ways to many ecosystems
And theyre actually in quite a bit of danger in a lot of areas because of White Nose Fungus
Which is when people ender caves or culverts without proper shoe protection and track in spores
lofty depot
people "guys theres suddenly a lot of bats around hmm"
khailby "theyre good for the ecosystem, quiet peon"
minor anchor
Sunseeker mushroom talent Aware
wooden oak
but yea thanks im glad people are looking not-weirdly at haranir after what happened to Dracthyr
meager storm
what is wrong with them
meager storm
so u just mute them idk man
wooden oak
I do dont worry
minor anchor
Ye man getting furry races to be atleast not actively spat on has been a struggle for the true believers
But the culture has shifted yipee
wooden oak
Not a furry
meager storm
lofty depot
Ye man getting furry races to be atleast not actively spat on has been a struggl...
well hold on
minor anchor
Holding.
lofty depot
worgen is not
meager storm
worgen is better than those little things
minor anchor
Nah if you think Genn Greymane doesnt look good and cool in the BFA cinematic
might be skill issue
lofty depot
people often like them because of aesthetic reasons... like cool lasers. I like things for useful reasons
quiet drift
Not for like damage or anything in particular but do u think theyre cool
W
Swapping to Haranir on launch š¦
minor anchor
They also have a very good gathering racial
meager storm
minor anchor
Giga chad chickin putting the beta fel user in his place
lucid olive
might be skill issue
muzzle your dog
minor anchor
Lowkey Sylvanas has mogged Genn every possible time they met, excluding the Stormheim incident
lofty depot
Nah if you think Genn Greymane doesnt look good and cool in the BFA cinematic
i havent palyed DnD, but i can tell you tc-ing some things i want to play... being a dog isnt one of them
lofty depot
Lowkey Sylvanas has mogged Genn every possible time they met, excluding the Stor...
rightfully so
minor anchor
Are you playing one of the cow races perhaps?
lofty depot
people often like them because of aesthetic reasons... like cool lasers. I like ...
i will remind u i play races for useful reasons
the only use cow has is crit damage (which it was better)... but meld more useful for cringe shit in m+
minor anchor
yeah im a meld enjoyer aswell
but i frequently use the Atomic Recalibrator to mix it up
lofty depot
im a fire chicken
minor anchor
I was thinking they could add black feathers a red tints and the glow effects so we could make a nightmare chicken
and with skyreach being in the rotation
Where is my arakkoa transformations
And I prefer the REAL Arakkoa...
lofty depot
now that should be a form
wooden oak
https://imgur.com/96gpKZc
Consider
if u were blood death knight
U could have purgatoried thru that
drifting nova
<@253616853157412865> are you still a thing
lofty depot
@sour rampart https://www.twitch.tv/bcrlarias/clip/TrustworthyTalentedAardvarkKappaClaus-nR1dYOvB_TEQp_Ht
sour rampart
<@190271915041095690> https://www.twitch.tv/bcrlarias/clip/TrustworthyTalentedAa...
oh god
you did clip it
crude coral
I've seen basically no one talking about Balance. How is it looking? Any gameplay I've found looking on youtube is months old on the beta
drifting nova
booty cheeks
lofty depot
I've seen basically no one talking about Balance. How is it looking? Any gamepla...
uhh play weaver over rattle in raid probably maybe
what else u wanna talk about
crude coral
I'm mostly a M+ player. Any hope for it there?
lofty depot
dont know yet
normal pilot
i wouldn't worry it all works out in the end.
anyone who actually cares about dps would either prepare multiple characters or play a pure dps class
so if you're still playign balance you aren't actually that worried in which case you'll be fine with wherever it ends up at
sour rampart
@lofty depot zorthas is testing the upgrade thing
lofty depot
and it works
loud kettle
Arctic the boomkin was actually right about something
loud kettle
<@190271915041095690> https://www.twitch.tv/bcrlarias/clip/TrustworthyTalentedAa...
This is what he wants to hide btw
loud kettle
<@190271915041095690> https://www.twitch.tv/bcrlarias/clip/TrustworthyTalentedAa...
Im sure gamz is okay with this
@lucid olive you can remove the pin if u want to...
lofty depot
lol
loud kettle
aint no way
problem?
delicate perch
https://www.twitch.tv/zorthas/clip/SpotlessEsteemedBibimbapAMPEnergy-iS_MtPleEJD...
thats my goat
loud kettle
even i know better than to abuse my pin power
Its fine in moderation
restive jolt
https://www.twitch.tv/zorthas/clip/SpotlessEsteemedBibimbapAMPEnergy-iS_MtPleEJD...
aye glad to see it in effect
idk why but i was never bored the 2 hours i watched you do the document changes til u swapped to the checkbox thing which i logged off to nap
royal zenith
Wait green names can pin msgs
restive jolt
9/10 i cant watch streamers for long
royal zenith
Hooly
sour rampart
idk why but i was never bored the 2 hours i watched you do the document changes ...
Lol That's pretty funny
restive jolt
guess it helped it was really useful info to have i was sharing with friends the better info as u solidified it
round field
Wait green names can pin msgs
yes?
how do u not know that
gamz pins all his shit himself...
some fake ass purple name you were
sour rampart
Goddamn
royal zenith
some fake ass purple name you were
I didnt care enough thats all
I could still ban you tho..
round field
do it then pussy
royal zenith
need to have a valid reason
round field
thats what i thought
loud kettle
no you dont
royal zenith
:)
round field
no you dont
stay out of this you stinky cat
royal zenith
Ill do the quiet ban
when you are asleep
suddenly you are not in this server anymore
round field
š„±
hollow mist
suddenly you are not in this server anymore
š„
royal zenith
lakerz wants you gone too, Im getting more leverage
spice roost
+1
royal zenith
loud kettle
+1
royal zenith
ramping
spice roost
is there any world where 1min convoke will be played in minight in raid or is that talent seeming very weak
meager storm
incarn supremacy
spice roost
incarn supremacy
i fkn wish
spice roost
how do u know
jaunty blaze
rip bozo convoke
spice roost
u really think we will play incarn?
jaunty blaze
it sims best from the first look
jaunty blaze
but subject to change obviously
spice roost
what would make incarn better on beta but not on live
craggy sonnet
who says its not better on live?
fights right now are just super short, so you dont feel the difference in ecl uptime
but also incarn crit helps the apex smolder
spice roost
oh so ur saying it could be better on live?
royal zenith
he's saying nobody knows
delicate perch
I know (not sharing)
jaunty blaze
wtf share with the class
plucky valley
Double you tea eff
ancient harbor
hello, i'm pretty new to moonkin, i did a +9 Eco-dome Al'dani in 20ish minutes, 149ilvl, my only question is : is my overall dps good or did i miss something ?
i know its prepatch but, i want to know if i do well or if i need to train more about something
thank you ā¤ļø
drifting nova
as the dh afk?
ancient harbor
dh was like 100ilvl
drifting nova
ancient harbor
115 if i remember
dense steeple
Prepatch is fake, m+ is fake, screenshot of overall damage is fake
We have 0 info here
ancient harbor
what do you want to know ? i can give you ^^
i'm mean, i'm here to be a better balance druid
dense steeple
We would need a log with casts measured where we could see target counts and shit
ancient harbor
great, would do it next run i guess
dense steeple
I assume youre playing EC, is beam on CD? are you starfalling basically on CD? Are you hitting Starfire alot?
ancient harbor
but overall, 150ilvl and 27k overall dps is like good, bad, mid ?
glad helm
learning is fake
Yeah I'm kinda thinking of not logging on again until midnight actually drops 'cause even farming gear seems kinda pointless since once we level it's gonna get replaced anyways
dense steeple
Kekkers unironically right though, learning rn is also kind of fake too cause we dont have capstones well have at 90, and tuning is so abysmal we dont know what rotations will change with tuning
ancient harbor
yup, i'm playing the basic m+ icyvein talent build, everything on cd, only starfire, starfalling when ii can and beam on cd with trinket
dense steeple
Yeah I'm kinda thinking of not logging on again until midnight actually drops 'c...
Getting gear is good prep for leveling at least
glad helm
Getting gear is good prep for leveling at least
mmh ok but I'm around 150 ilv rn
could I get higher? sure
but I don't think it's gonna make that much of a difference
ancient harbor
but I don't think it's gonna make that much of a difference
as someone that have done pexing on the beta, i was 167 ilv at lvl 87
glad helm
as someone that have done pexing on the beta, i was 167 ilv at lvl 87
sorry what does pexing mean
ancient harbor
sorry what does pexing mean
the main campaign, sorry
dense steeple
No idea but 167 at level 87 just proves questing gear is fake til 88
ancient harbor
sorry i'm a stupid baguette
dense steeple
Which is why you shouldn't enter the leveling experience 40 levels below because shit is gonna fall over if youre higher
Would you rather struggle killing mobs starting at 81 or 88?
ancient harbor
thanks anyway for the "fake" lesson, i guess its like warrior discord here
jaunty blaze
i mean you are asking something the answer to has a million variables
without any data to go off
while the game is not balanced
and noone knows what any spec is doing in terms of optimal dps
and we dont know what your group did
ancient harbor
i don't want the exact number of what the dps are on that ilvl, i wanted to know if 27kish dps is ok or bad or good
jaunty blaze
boomie will also always be on the lower end of damage in lower keys when things die too fast
ancient harbor
my concern is, thing wasn't diying fast
glad helm
thanks anyway for the "fake" lesson, i guess its like warrior discord here
I'm also like you and I'm trying to get myself informed and stuff, but it is true that literally one hotfix or balance change (no pun intended) could swap a lot of things around, so maybe rn it's not the right time to care too much about learning the minmax stuff just get a general sense of the spec and once we are max level and full talents we are gaming
ancient harbor
that was your basic key
jaunty blaze
the only answer to your question is dont think about it too much
ancient harbor
but i'm not asking for minmax T_T
quiet drift
I mean noone is really playing or paying attention to how much damage we are doing or even how much can we do
jaunty blaze
if you want to know if you played correctly only a log will help
dense steeple
^
quiet drift
The expansion is in a week and everyone has their eyes set on that
dense steeple
It wasnt me trying to dissuade you bro
Theres literally just nothing we can do off a screenshot of you doing 25k dps
ancient harbor
well ty, to much to ask i guess
quiet drift
jaunty blaze
its not too much to ask but there isnt any meaningful answer to give you here
ancient harbor
thats a raid
dense steeple
Damage isn't real
glad helm
that seems depressing xd
ancient harbor
should i ask, how much damage are boomie doing that are actually playing ?
dense steeple
Yes its a raid but consider this:
Raid is used more as a measure due to the scripted nature. Less things can just be variably wrong. In a key it will never be the same thing, its always varying
ancient harbor
maybe you're right, i'll just go on log and see
dense steeple
Please log:) we can check your rotational play with a log and tell you if youre doing well
quiet drift
should i ask, how much damage are boomie doing that are actually playing ?
I genuinely have not seen a fully geared boomkin talking about prepatch m+
ancient harbor
i won't post it here, i mean, the first thing was "fake" "fake", i throug the discord would be more friendly but i'm wrong
quiet drift
There is a 150k timed runs this reset, people just arent playing
wooden oak
Theyre also just used to seeing posts like yours 50 times a day, etc etc
a better word than fake would beā¦ disneyland
The balancing right now is not veryā¦ real? Good? Etc. but thats because its prepatch
So damage numbers alone wont say much of anything
If you make a log and post it, it lets people see your rotation, which does matter a lot more
ancient harbor
i don't care about the balancing for real, i just want to know, what a balance druid is doing at this moment... maybe my english is to bad to be understand š¢
wooden oak
and they can tell you what buttons you need to press more or less
wooden oak
i don't care about the balancing for real, i just want to know, what a balance d...
Then yes thats exactly what logging will help people tell you š
Logging will give them a timeline of all the buttons you press in a dungeon or raid, and they can make sure youāre pressing them at the right times / in the right amounts / in the right order
If you have issues remembering to log before you go into content, like me, you can download an addon like Loggerhead to automatically do it for you
But yes, tl;dr, you didnāt wrong anybody here, nor did they wrong you, just come back with a log so you can get more in depth answers :)
ancient harbor
thank you Khailby
wooden oak
o7
dense steeple
i don't care about the balancing for real, i just want to know, what a balance d...
I promise you friend we are not trying to be unkind or unhelpful.
3 weeks ago, a fully geared m+ boomkin could slam like 100k overall in a key where things live. Since prepatch those same boomkins dont do damage so they dont play. You come in with 30 ilvl below the cap in a low key where things dont live.
What you gave us is not measurable. Its not about us being unfriendly. Its about we need more data.
glad helm
thanks anyway for the "fake" lesson, i guess its like warrior discord here
Now I've got to ask tho: how much are are arms warr dooming in that discord KEKW
reef jungle
52 sec fight
Do you really wanna draw some conclusions from it?
dense steeple
Do you know the devourer rotation?
wooden oak
Do you know the devourer rotation?
Consume
dense steeple
They slam 18 consecutive consumes before they press any other button
wooden oak
:yep:
dense steeple
Meaning theres over 20 seconds they havent even hit their CDs
Boomkin at least gets to push buttons before that
And a good devourer can stay in meta for over a minute
So like they were still climbing by the time the boss died
glad helm
the bios died??? nooooo :(
Xd
royal zenith
you can't really hate on devourer if your own spec/class does shit damage
insta bench for the owl
wooden oak
is enhancement still a perma bench spec
wooden oak
pog
if i have to play a dps maybe ill pick up enhancement
back when i played in bfa -> sl it was bad ā¢
royal zenith
probably less bad than people make it up to be
wooden oak
yeah i dunno
Class Discords are simultaneously the single best source for information and the single best source for misinformation and weirdism and that dichotomy is kinda rough
dense steeple
you can't really hate on devourer if your own spec/class does shit damage
I love devourer
I enjoy spamming consume for half of lust
Lusted consume does 18k dps