but nothing more than we already had
#balance
lofty depot
sturdy pumice
bamkin need more bam
normal pilot
what about more kin
lofty depot
id prefer more dam
strong needle
does @lucid olive have a set up for his ui? i saw it on wow head but when i import it it doesnt look the same
lucid olive
does <@147914503588282368> have a set up for his ui? i saw it on wow head but wh...
you can bug test if that works
lofty depot
does <@147914503588282368> have a set up for his ui? i saw it on wow head but wh...
did u import both the edit mode and cdm strings
also... he has bettercooldownmanager which isnt on it
twin lotus
I only use profiles i pay 5 euros for
normal pilot
smh did you steal elvui code too
vital hound
@scenic orbit he a theef
lucid olive
wtf
vital hound
i have the receipts
solemn pelican
lofty depot
decent now no
uhh depends what ur doing, but u also dont want to overcap asp
scenic orbit
<@199878503028490240> he a theef
lofty depot
hes not even playing boomkin its that bad
bleak rivet
couple of keys today and damage feels mostly the same and not great. If I turn off damage meters its much funner and I feel like im doing a lot
Basically its a vibes based spec right now and not a dps.
delicate perch
mostly the same compared to when 
nimble tangle
ancient thicket
Morning fellas, someone have talents to test in prepatch with today changes? or we still running the same talents in guides? thanks a lot!
jaunty blaze
That's already a lot ๐ญ ๐ฅ
delicate perch
god gives his hardest battles to his toughest boomkins or however that saying goes
jaunty blaze
๐
round field
I am logging in
what is wrong with u
livid jay
gm bala dudus
gm
livid jay
good morning mahranaka hope you are doing well sweetheart ^_^
gm lake i hope you have a great day 
delicate perch
wtf our talents changed @lucid olive what do I do
delicate perch
done
hollow mist
way ahead of you
pallid bay
sup lakey
maiden pasture
https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/63f02c4ece7a1e125360036f/4x.gif
Holy moly
true viper
this green class kinda fun
delicate perch
this green class kinda fun
jaunty blaze
๐
vital hound
wtf our talents changed <@147914503588282368> what do I do
bro it fucking sucks
disconnect roulette when mounting
delicate perch
bro it fucking sucks
first boss my game just froze and eclipse wasn't on my bars
logging off
vital hound
craggy sonnet
you should invest in a higher refresh rate monitor
brave gulch
@lucid olive @pallid bay sup
bleak rivet
https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/63f02c4ece7a1e125360036f/4x.gif
Holy shit you fixed boomie with these instructions
pallid bay
<@147914503588282368> <@148552191874039808> sup
sup bhased
hearty wren
What's the gap between EC and KotG on single target?
round field
no sims
but ec is dogshit in st
do urself a favor and dont play it if you care about dps
jade flume
delicate perch
What's the gap between EC and KotG on single target?
what a terrible pokemon
junior thicket
hello world 2000 rio achievable with boomie yes no? try hard m+ player here
crude cargo
no move on
junior thicket
round field
hello world 2000 rio achievable with boomie yes no? try hard m+ player here
sir you can get 2k rio probably without spending half ur talent points
pallid bay
rolled and smoked
sudden flame
<@253616853157412865>
pseudo merlin
Nope
sudden flame
is that how you have 99 agility
pseudo merlin
I botted in the past cuz I didn't give a fuck about this game (before oldschool existed)
Not on this account
This is my second false ban
This is what happens when you use a touch screen laptop
๐
fossil hemlock
Okay why are you using a touch screen laptop?
pseudo merlin
I have no idea how to even answer that
That's an insanely weird question
That's like telling someone who drove over a nail that punctured their tyre "ok but why are you using a car?"
what
fossil hemlock
That's not a great simile.
It's like asking someone why their daily-driver car is a reliant robin
pseudo merlin
That's not a simile at all
Your question still makes no sense but feel free to restructure it in a way where it does and it can be answered
fossil hemlock
I apologise for using big words, it won't happen again
round field
Okay why are you using a touch screen laptop?
The texture of the screen reminds him of the feeling of beating wives even during his wifebeating downtime
pseudo merlin
I apologise for using big words, it won't happen again
You used the word simile wrong my guy
round field
thats not a big word tho
pseudo merlin
A simile is not the same as an analogy
fossil hemlock
My bad, I mixed them up in my head
But I didn't ask "why are you using a laptop" which is what your analogy suggests
pseudo merlin
I can't seperate the touch screen from the laptop so that is exactly how I interpret that
pseudo merlin
If you're using a laptop on its own, and it has touch screen, you're not going to prefer the trackpad over the touch screen for a lot of things
Touch screen is amazing
fossil hemlock
How do you even dodge mechanics with all those fingerprints all over you monitor?
pseudo merlin
clean hands
fossil hemlock
I can't seperate the touch screen from the laptop so that is exactly how I inter...
You could just not have a touch screen in the first place smh my helmet
pseudo merlin
I will never own a laptop without touchscreen again in my life
It is too good
You should try it
Atleast until it gets you permad in osrs
lucid oriole
So we back or ?
round field
no, why?
hollow mist
never not back
lyric kettle
Heard this spec is slightly better than shadow now pog
royal zenith
I will never own a laptop without touchscreen again in my life
actual boomer
that's crazy
pseudo merlin
????
Touch screen is new tech
You're the boomer with your fucking IBM stick
@royal zenith playing on his laptop
wow with the IBM stick
royal zenith
wrong
I have a ducky keyboard
you're factually wrong in every sense
60% even
I need to get a new one
laptops for gaming is also just criminal
pseudo merlin
only gaming ravec does is osrs
well not anymore cuz im permad now ๐
round field
deserved
minor anchor
ye the veil between Excel spreadsheet and osrs is real thin
pseudo merlin
I hope things happen to you sakura
round field
like good things?
hollow mist
well not anymore cuz im permad now ๐
who'd you slur to have that happen
pseudo merlin
ye the veil between Excel spreadsheet and osrs is real thin
Atleast when you're using excell you're usually doing something productive
Perma banned for botting (I was making ranarr potions on touch screen laptop)
hollow mist
pseudo merlin
like good things?
๐
minor anchor
having fun is a necessary step in your life to be productive ๐
so playing games is by proxy productive
pseudo merlin
Work hard - click hard?
pseudo merlin
sudden flame
Now you can make an ironman and not be a credit card warrior
pseudo merlin
I like the idea of playing an IM
But some skills would just drive me nuts
like herblore or farming
I'd play combat only IM though
Or like the idea of mining iron and coal
yikes
sudden flame
bros setup and he's trying to tell me he wasn't out here buying bonds
thias the biggest credit card warrior setupt up i've ever seen
pseudo merlin
?
That's a legit dagannoth kings setup
If you wanna buy gold you do you
I just dont want to give jagex money
I took bandos top over torags because I wanted to try the melee king too
Later swapped it back to torags because I couldnt kill all three fast enough
swapped dragon boots out for holy sandals
You don't need the magic attack to kill dagannoth rex
you need the defenses to sustain the small guy7s
sudden flame
I don't care if its a legitmate setup im saying you brought all those items from the GE using bond gold
pseudo merlin
I dont understand the logic of that
You're literally making the case that the items I used means I bought bonds
sudden flame
yes
pseudo merlin
So what's the implication
The implication can only be that it's nonsensical
Which it isn't
tribrid ring with a double swap for the rest
and it was on task
????
livid jay
begin of march poe1
new league?
minor anchor
We love poe
pseudo merlin
From?
lofty depot
Gastank fixing the sims
lofty depot
I suppose if I do that I'm still below tank DPS which is the same
normal pilot
ya no diff at all
lofty depot
Thanks for the help, no sim required
normal pilot
1 or 2, you know what they say about insanity
pseudo merlin
๐
lofty depot
He's working on the prio list? Nice
lofty depot
Prio list on what discord to ignore
drifting nova
<@253616853157412865>
explains the agility
pseudo merlin
decent ragebait ill give you that
Also that 99 is like 3 years old
3 year delayed ban yeah?
pseudo merlin
you can get banned for things ot her than botting?
the fuck did you do then
did you drop slurs?
hollow mist
you can get banned for things ot her than botting?
rmt
hollow mist
so can't apply to kekkers
hollow mist
ye but he's IM no ?
maybe yea can't remember
pseudo merlin
Bet he walked up to someone and went "I'll trim your armor if you give me your password"
drifting nova
you can get banned for things ot her than botting?
well yes but no, got permed back in like 06 on my first account for advertising...
..youtube
pseudo merlin
maybe dont talk to scapers about your d long
stone ocean
We are cooked
brave gulch
Gaaaaaaaaaaamzzzz
lucid olive
wrong chat
brave gulch
Hello I just woke up
brave gulch
๐ค
lucid olive
i would've slept longer but i had class at 6pm so
hollow mist
degenerates meeting each other out in the wild
im going to bed rn
I will wake up at 20:00
brave gulch
dont wake up too early now
ionic surge
I will wake up at 20:00
that one unemployed friend on a random wednesday
hollow mist
that one unemployed friend on a random wednesday
I work 40 hrs a week sadly 
hollow mist
dont wake up too early now
need silence from you bucko
brave gulch
how about u find some employment first little one
hollow mist
brave gulch
im too sleepy for this I just woke up
pseudo merlin
I will wake up at 20:00
its been 20:00 hello wake up
sage maple
@lucid olive congrats on your wowhead promotion, did you update raid talents, ty
lucid olive
<@147914503588282368> congrats on your wowhead promotion, did you update raid ta...
You can go check, they should be updated
And thanks
glacial spindle
how we looking in midnight boys?
sage maple
You can go check, they should be updated
was curious bc says last update is 1/22
imagine that means no changes then, ty
lucid olive
was curious bc says last update is 1/22
Yes the talent builds are independent from the actual talent guide page
That update date only updates when I hit edit on the page and change something and hit save
The talent builds are all done inside the Talent Calculator
sage maple
oo useful to know
might be worth to put in a . or a space or something for people that look @ the update date lol
glad helm
This date format is wronger then blizzard balance tuning
lucid olive
This date format is wronger then blizzard balance tuning
Highest to lowest value makes sense to me
It's either lowest to highest or highest to lowest
None of this month/day/year shit
glad helm
None of this month/day/year shit
that's just for our ๐ฆ friends
drifting nova
why does my fresh 80 mage do more than my druid
quiet drift
queen radish
more damage than tanks
Sad that I'm actually happy about this
cloud citrus
frostfire mage is banging
SS mage doing more then FF
drifting nova
SS mage doing more then FF
yeah but frostfire is cool and spell is not
its the ec to chicken
and ss is kotg (bad but does more damage)
cloud citrus
this is 100% true FF actually plays so well atm
pseudo merlin
This date format is wronger then blizzard balance tuning
then?
cloud citrus
its like TWW s2 boomy with double ray stacks
drifting nova
still dont know half of what I'm doing but
comet go brr
and seeing ignite is cool
pseudo merlin
None of this month/day/year shit
it's 2/11/26 today, thoughts?
drifting nova
it's 2/11/26 today, thoughts?
11/02/26
drifting nova
wrote it doubly wrong
cloud citrus
11/2/26 makes sense
cloud citrus
however i just right 11th Feb 2026 now to avoid confusion
pseudo merlin
That's crazy work
lucid olive
11/2/26 makes sense
yeah cause its low to high value
drifting nova
even americans say the date right for 4th of july
lucid olive
either low to high or high to low
cloud citrus
our company was bought out by a American company and man has these dates caused a lot of problems
like A LOT OF PROBLEMS
pseudo merlin
Dont you scandis all do MMDDYYYY
vital hound
its the 12th you're all wrong
cloud citrus
flavour
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
Americans can't even hold a pen
lucid olive
Dont you scandis all do MMDDYYYY
no
cloud citrus
honour/flavour realise dam it Merica
pseudo merlin
My pc is frankenstein
lucid olive
pseudo merlin
I ran Swe for a long time and it was always month first
cloud citrus
3:44am 12th of Feb
pseudo merlin
idk why it does now
cloud citrus
your all living in the past
drifting nova
cyrillic no?
pseudo merlin
?=
drifting nova
cloud citrus
o oh
pseudo merlin
90 years ago
drifting nova
SO SORT OF RIGHT
pseudo merlin
They have the weirdest cyrillic
drifting nova
which one is right
pseudo merlin
THEY ARE THE SAME
The bottom one is real
The top one is pretending to be something
Moldovan is LITERALLY Romanian with 3 additional russian loan words
like genuinely 3 words
cloud citrus
lol
pseudo merlin
I dont know why they are allowed to exist
pseudo merlin
ill translate for you (i wont)
cloud citrus
change it to chinese
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
Shqip
drifting nova
faker than moldovan
pseudo merlin
That sounds like a drunken brit trying to talk
pseudo merlin
is there jamaican?
cloud citrus
does it have voice too
cloud citrus
wut New Zealand doesnt have a different english to Australia
pseudo merlin
Sure they do
lucid olive
yeah what
pseudo merlin
Elvish
vital hound
wut New Zealand doesnt have a different english to Australia
yes we do
drifting nova
new zealand speaks english
do you know any sami?
pseudo merlin
Yeah I knew her in highschool
drifting nova
actually my closest kebab place
lucid olive
do you know any sami?
would know more if i grew up there
pseudo merlin
gamz isnt that far north I dont think
lucid olive
correct
also theres too many languages and dialects here to follow won't catch me learning a whole nother spoken language
lucid olive
whenever i'm curious about something i don't have to translate it between googling and doing it
stone cairn
wut New Zealand doesnt have a different english to Australia
It is actually, it's very subtle, but the differences are there.
Different slang words and references. 
drifting nova
goas nu go lean beroลกtuvvan juoga birra, de in dรกrbbaลก jorgalit dan gaskal googlema ja dan dahkama
stone cairn
Something something Google
lucid olive
my windows is also debloated so the only default windows program i have is the calculator
removed everything else
lucid olive
i use Startallback
drifting nova
disgusting
cloud citrus
Kalkulator
drifting nova
in the middle
void jacinth
friendslist leaked
lucid olive
in the middle
nah middle is bis
void jacinth
foxxy and momo > me i guess
lucid olive
i used to rig my taskbar to have middle icons before windows made it default
drifting nova
not even friends, smh
lucid olive
foxxy and momo > me i guess
unlucky
drifting nova
oh so you preemeptively stupid
lucid olive
i haven't touched my favorites for years
drifting nova
instead of mandatory stupid from windows
lucid olive
nah middle icons are just better
but i can also just change it if i want
with startallback
maiden pasture
this my win11
lucid olive
<:FeelsStrongMan:961145324901126155>
i was gonna ping him here but he quit the game for real
one-armed bandit killed him ๐ญ
royal zenith
who
minor anchor
I have another one of my autistic question should I even ask?
vital hound
glad helm
then?
did I confuse once more then and than? ๐
this is legit the thing I can never fix in my english xd
lucid olive
did I confuse once more then and than? ๐
ye
"then" is related to time
"than" is comparing two things
pseudo merlin
this is legit the thing I can never fix in my english xd
It's okay if you're Italian
(no excuse for the millions of Mericans though)
lucid olive
americans who don't know their own grammar always baffled me as a teenager
pseudo merlin
Still baffles me as an adult
lucid olive
until i grew up and came to terms with the fact that some people are just stupid
pseudo merlin
Thing is that it's not just some, it's like the insanely large majority, atleast on the internet
Like 99% of the Americans I interact with
lucid olive
dead internet theory
pseudo merlin
real
lucid olive
I grew up with a lot of people who refused to write Norwegian and just kept running it down mid writing in full dialect
which can be like completely different languages
pseudo merlin
Was watching some schizo rant video yesterday about how when we first booted up the LHC we switched universes, evidenced by the "mandela effect" coincidentally first appearing on a mass global scale at that exact point in time
I think we're in the wrong universe
drifting nova
americans who don't know their own grammar always baffled me as a teenager
who could mess that up, imagine
teal sphinx
I think we're in the wrong universe
You're exactly where you need to be
pseudo merlin
Nah I want to be in the timeline where I own a boat and a lakehouse
I don't belong here
drifting nova
(no excuse for the millions of Mericans though)
they dont even speak real english, they are esl
pseudo merlin
I want to be in the universe where kekkers doesn't exist
pseudo merlin
๐ฉ
teal sphinx
But every discord needs a kekkers that unites the discord against them
teal sphinx
Nature seeks balance in all things
pseudo merlin
you never been in a wow guild with a kitten?
pseudo merlin
Go watch Preach's drama time, he's got like 50 episodes about some egirl tearing a guild apart and destroying friendships
Or even destroying marriages
minor anchor
i was going to ask about cancelling a que'd up wrath when my previous one proc'd Touch of the cosmos
but I called my math friend and we can probably calculate it close enough
drifting nova
math?
royal zenith
is said math friend called "Napkin" ?
quiet drift
i was going to ask about cancelling a que'd up wrath when my previous one proc'd...
Historically
Canceling casts has never been worth
So just thug it through
Also "canceling cast" can be .1s into second cast 1s
lucid olive
Just never cancel casts
quiet drift
^^
minor anchor
Assume 0.3 thats my average from doing it
lucid olive
Even if cancelling a cast is technically a 0.005% dps increase you still shouldn't do it
quiet drift
Youre also just way more likely to not proc another TTC
drifting nova
it'd trigger the shit out of me doing that
lucid olive
You sit in the cast and tough it out and promise yourself to do better next time
quiet drift
85% of the time its a missplay
drifting nova
64% of numbers are made up
minor anchor
Ye but 15% of Starsurge its not nothing chief
lucid olive
Like if you entered Solar by accident on AoE last expansion cause you were brain off spamming Starfire you still don't cancel the last Starfire, just sit in the wrong Eclipse and feel bad about what you did so you never do it again
drifting nova
you think I can read
drifting nova
glad I didnt play chicken in bfa
minor anchor
I will report back
pseudo merlin
BFA pressing non-empowered fillers instead of canceling
when did you have them though
I felt like I never fucking ran out
I hated it
pseudo merlin
Ah
quiet drift
Good to know for BFA classic release
lofty depot
Legion first silly
cursive mirage
Why ping @teal sphinx I ainโt reading all that
lofty depot
Real
lofty depot
You just spammed Starfall with the funny build there no?
Yes and no
teal sphinx
i wish
lofty depot
Stellar drift tho
teal sphinx
i could get away with anything if i was
lofty depot
P sure it was a loss on st regardless, the typical answer was likely, pool better
cursive mirage
i could get away with anything if i was
Do you not realize how much you get away with???
Not as much as Rony tbf
lofty depot
Also back then, starfall or surge proc was 20%.. weaver is better
lucid olive
Weaver proc chance should be per Eclipse
quiet drift
๐ โโ๏ธ
lucid olive
50% for a Starfall to proc a free Starsurge per Eclipse
so its guaranteed in CA/Incarn
quiet drift
The dopamine for chain proccing
is crazy
The one RNG stuff in our entire class that affects gameplay
cursive mirage
Yeah Gamz is FRIED!
I do agree that tying it to eclipse defeats it being a reactive proc
lucid olive
Hail of Stars should be redesigned too
cursive mirage
Think itโs just a make the surge proc better angle
lucid olive
giving Solstice duration for free spenders is cool but it should give a buff that's more.. tangible, if that makes sense?
Solstice is such a weird buff since it hard resets to 6s on Eclipse
cursive mirage
Yeah maybe so
Well yeah the hard resetting to 6 thing is fucking obnoxious and needs to be fixed
lucid olive
It should be something more like "x thing does more dam" or something
cursive mirage
I think without that itโd be fine
lucid olive
Or "every 8th free spender cast gives 12 seconds of CA"
cursive mirage
PulsarGamz
lucid olive
lucid olive
I also think the Incarn bonus for EG should be something like "casting a free spender increases the duration of Incarn by 1s" or something
drifting nova
how about we bring back the free incarn
charging buff we had
see I forgot the name
lucid olive
but also think the Convoke bonus from EG should be nuked
cursive mirage
If starweaver made the proccโd spender do more damage thatโd be in essence the same as hail of stars just less convoluted I guess but having things tied to solstice helps keep dots relevant
cursive mirage
but also think the Convoke bonus from EG should be nuked
Convoke in general you mean
EG is such a shit node
lucid olive
Convoke is fine depending on the choice you're making when taking it
cursive mirage
โMake convoke ass or make incarn slightly better while reducing the relative power of the procs you find fun!โ
lucid olive
I think Rattle/Convoke and Starweaver/Incarn could be the two build choices to make
with rattle/convoke being better for patchwerk ST and starweaver/incarn being close on ST but better at like sporadic prio add spawn fights or whatever
cursive mirage
So actually unsure but is our incarn the least impactful of all the druid specs?
cursive mirage
Like do we just have that because itโs a โdruid thingโ but ours doesnโt actually make sense because itโs just +duration and crit
Well I donโt even mean tuning I mean like the actual effect
Idk what feralโs does
Like Incarn is just a mostly invisible buff to your CD that has no tangible change to gameplay and feels almost entirely the same. Doesnโt even change our model anymore!!
Mad!!
lucid olive
Feral incarn reduces energy cost by 25% and lets them use Prowl during combat once for an extra buffed spell
Then their EG just reduces the CD by 30 seconds
cursive mirage
The energy cost thing probably feels better
quiet drift
TTC is cooked
cursive mirage
I mean yeah thatโs pretty weak
quiet drift
That should be tied to spending AP
lucid olive
umbral embrace should be the VOTI 2pc
cursive mirage
But energy cost reduction for energy class actually feels different cause youโre getting to be faster paced for a bit
quiet drift
๐ฆ
lucid olive
remember the original umbral embrace procced off of astral damage dealt ๐ญ
lucid olive
then they changed it to "wrath and starfire has a chance to make wrath and starfire do more dam" wtf kinda dogshit is that
quiet drift
you feel like youre just not getting value from 3-4 talents
cursive mirage
New umbral is literally just โpeople complained about this talent for some reason that we donโt understand so letโs make it entirely passive to shut them upโ
quiet drift
cuz theyre purely tied to fillers
quiet drift
then they changed it to "wrath and starfire has a chance to make wrath and starf...
+1
cursive mirage
To be fair I guess the umbral we remember being relevant was back when we were entering wrong eclipse so it operated as a proc to use the other spender etc
lucid olive
at least it used to proc Umbral Inspiration or whatever for some more Starfall dam but that was bad too
cursive mirage
After they โfixedโ the eclipse thing it wouldโve been mostly boring anyway
lofty depot
I do agree that tying it to eclipse defeats it being a reactive proc
Fire mage, combust gets guaranteed crits which then makes u pyro, ib, pyro spam
lucid olive
we never played umbral embrace after VOTI i think
normal pilot
ya umbral like most of the spec was designed for the alternating eclipse
cursive mirage
Yeah
normal pilot
when they stopped it alternating they bascially broke the entire spec
lucid olive
now you're just chain proccing it outside of Eclipse but you can't spend it and then never get a proc when you're actually inside the Eclipse
cursive mirage
A talent that would capture the essence of how that VOTI umbral played would be something like โcasting wrath has a chance to turn your next starfire into nature damage and increase its damage by x%โ and vice versa.
normal pilot
even now half the shit makes no sense because they got rid of eclipse but left everything else around
maybe in last titan they'll finish the job
jaunty blaze
just make it only resto
jaunty blaze
full circle
cursive mirage
now you're just chain proccing it outside of Eclipse but you can't spend it and ...
Yeah it only working in eclipse feels like a woopsy oversight after the eclipse change lol
normal pilot
all the ecl related stuff like solstice/boat/ng all need to go
cursive mirage
I high key think the idea of eclipses being the 30 second mini CD is not bad on its own. Just the rest of the spec needs to actually be built around that
normal pilot
like boat/solstice makes no sense. why does my 15s cd have a 10s sub-cd and another 6s sub-cd
lucid olive
add Harmony into that as well
cursive mirage
Right now weโre built around an alternating maintenance buff but then slapped this new eclipse thing into it
normal pilot
ya there's nothign wrong with the idea, it's just the rest of the spec is slapped on half implemented junk
cursive mirage
I still think the spec is better than it was in TWW
lucid olive
can polish a turd
quiet drift
TWW is geniuenly the worst iteration ive ever played
so ye truthnuke
Actually Wotlk is worse
ebon sail
With weakauras gone, what are you using to help track your procs and resources. I used to use OI's weakaura pack.
cursive mirage
Part of me feels like they are reluctant to make full rebuilds of specs until after last titan because they are going to scrap the trees after that anyway so donโt want to rebuild a spec now just to burn it all at the end of the trilogy
lucid olive
With weakauras gone, what are you using to help track your procs and resources. ...
better cooldownmanager
pseudo merlin
I use oiui
cursive mirage
TWW is geniuenly the worst iteration ive ever played
Good point maybe Iโve had my standards nuked into the floor
normal pilot
i don't think they're even planning like that
they only have like 15 ppl total on the combat team
cursive mirage
Yeah Iโm just tin foiling idk.
normal pilot
they just flat out don't have the ppl to 'waste' on a full rebuild when they cna just get by with stepwise changes every patch
cursive mirage
They did imply in an interview from TWW beta that they were keeping DF talents through last titan โat leastโ so could continue forever but Iโm guessing theyโll want to revamp it heavily otherwise theyโll start getting too bloated with all these extra talent tack ons
But yeah thatโs probably real
quiet drift
End of the day these issues are like a problem for the 1%
99% of the playerbase are enjoying this
normal pilot
idk i think current system is actually well designed to mitigate bloat
lucid olive
they should let us use all previous legendaries and tier sets when we're in our house
and let me hit target dummies in my house
quiet drift
I remember when we were close to having targeted Starfall back in DF but it was too hard to clickers to play and it was reverted
normal pilot
midnight has effective 0 power creep over tww
lucid olive
I remember when we were close to having targeted Starfall back in DF but it was ...
Did you play when they moved Orbital Strike and Wild Mushrooms into a choice node for Amirdrassil PTR?
then the PVPers complained they couldn't have their 2 minute CD
cursive mirage
Well so they started with DF talents then had to add hero talents as their progression/box feature and now for midnight weโre getting more hero talents but really the โapex talentsโ as the new progression selling point and yeah theyโre very mediocre but people have complained a ton about that
There will be another thing added onto the talents for last titan
And eventually it just stacks too much
normal pilot
ya cuz they add 0 actual value to your character building
quiet drift
then the PVPers complained they couldn't have their 2 minute CD
Oh thats the meme
lmao
normal pilot
hero talents are just leveling passives
quiet drift
Ye didnt touch the game really from VOTI to Undermine
normal pilot
and same with apex since nobody is going to not take it
cursive mirage
Life is just a leveling passive at the end of the day
normal pilot
they're also able to add apex talent like things to all trees
lucid olive
Oh thats the meme
yeah they made Orbital Strike an actual spell on like a 45 sec CD that applied Stellar Flare to everything and put in choice node with Mushroom
normal pilot
so you could have multipel apex talents, hero tree apex talents, etc.
i could see them just adding that to last titan
quiet drift
I mean kinda issue with that is just button bloat
lucid olive
Then they reverted it and changed our Mastery instead so it was 33% moonfire, 33% sunfire and 33% basic dmg amp
quiet drift
Trees + FoE already feels horrible
lucid olive
or something like that
you don't like the button bloat builds?
wild mushroom convoke orbital strike treants new moon
cursive mirage
Theyโll definitely tack something on for last titan but I think whatever comes after that is when theyโll scrap the entire DF talent model
Or significantly rework it
quiet drift
wild mushroom convoke orbital strike treants new moon
cinema
lucid olive
the best part about moonkin button bloat is that none of them really matter much
cursive mirage
Many buttons do no damage
quiet drift
Just make them into oGCD
cursive mirage
Do no damage and/or do not interact with your kit in a meaningful way whatsoever so you just slam them because robot said so
lucid olive
real
cursive mirage
Moons are one of the coolest visual buttons in our kit and theyโve just been entirely ignored lol
Kind of insane
quiet drift
Also why the fuck was Denizen buffed
lucid olive
honestly though, i said it a few days ago, but i think they should remove mushrooms from the spec tree and just rework Keeper of the Grove to be fungal themed instead
lucid olive
imagine dream burst procced a mushroom on target instead
and power of the dream increased your spender damage to targets affected by wild mushroom
quiet drift
lucid olive
and your treants were little sporetenders instead
cursive mirage
And make mushrooms spawn trees and every 6th mushroom spawns a giant ancient
normal pilot
kotg final node should've been 'your pets are permanent'
cursive mirage
And make them do shit
normal pilot
zookeeper druid
lucid olive
real
gentle scroll
I am anti anything to do with pet AI
cursive mirage
Iโll never understand how KotG didnโt make trees into ancients. Lol
The easiest W of all time
lucid olive
And make mushrooms spawn trees and every 6th mushroom spawns a giant ancient
using Mass Entanglement on targets affected by Fungal Growth spawns a lasher for each enemy hit
๐คฏ
cursive mirage
Stop
lucid olive
just let me be Zyra from League of Legends
cursive mirage
You donโt have enough +x% wrath damage
pseudo merlin
and let me hit target dummies in my house
they should implement this but place it behind title or hof
just to watch the world burn
lucid olive
there's no reason a night elf druid shouldn't go around feeling like Poison Ivy
normal pilot
with last titan they can add a kotg apex talent that lets you summon other druid specs as your pet
so you can summon a pet feral/bear/tree
loud kettle
Wow you could summon @brave gulch
quiet drift
Legit get stunlocked
lucid olive
really?
quiet drift
Seeing random Dragon flying above me
lucid olive
I hate Flameshaper
quiet drift
or seeing their shadows
quiet drift
lucid olive
Flameshaper better now that they removed Engulf
my god Engulf was such a dogshit button
loud kettle
Scalecommander is annoying as a non evoker
lucid olive
it did way too much dam for such a boring button
jaunty blaze
big numbie tho
lucid olive
if I'm sending a spell that does 80% of my burst then pressing the button should feel good
lucid olive
Full Moon is complete opposite, really fun spell to press, drops a huge moon that gives dopamine but does actually 0 dam
lucid olive
damn phased this is the 2nd time today that you're in here
brave gulch
I was pinged...
lucid olive
tomato potato
brave gulch
loud kettle
why would that summon me...
A pet tree?
lucid olive
you should make this a regular thing
loud kettle
Who else would it summon
royal zenith
why would that summon me...
cuz u a freak
brave gulch
wouldnt mind being a pet tree tbh
loud kettle
Figured
brave gulch
pseudo merlin
why are we cancelling spells
minor anchor
Why are we wasting procs
bleak rivet
Full Moon is complete opposite, really fun spell to press, drops a huge moon tha...
Is the fix to full moon to buff it so itโs worth taking or would the cycle through to full moon also need to change?
lucid olive
Is the fix to full moon to buff it so itโs worth taking or would the cycle throu...
man who knows
buffing the numbers alone will make you play the talent but it won't feel good
it's a fun button to press but moons don't really fit in with the rest of the spec
bleak rivet
I wouldnโt mind turning full moon into a ap spender. Maybe it would need a cd as well but replace starfall with it and give us a bit more up front burst dmg with a spender
quiet drift
Theyre never adding AP spenders
meager storm
pulsar will fix the spec
quiet drift
floral quartz
Any chance the legacy loot increases trindral form drop rate?
twin zenith
I'm looking for a M+ build for boomy, but both icy veins and wowhead don't look right to me. Icy Veins says to use KOTG for all situations and doesn't even offer an Elune spec. That has to be wrong.
Wowhead says to take Elune, but it takes Ursine Vigor and Heart of the Wild and no lore of the grove. Is lore of the grove bugged?
vital hound
pulsar will fix the spec
pulsar that grants ca charge will fix spec
ancient thicket
Hi fellas, i check guides and... wowhead said elune and icy keeper for m+? someone have the correct answer? hahaha im confuseed as fuck
normal pilot
guides are just guessing right now
and/or just not updated
it's prepatch, just do what you think makes sense and check back on guides after the xpac launches
you're kind of baiting yourself looking at guides right now
lofty depot
I'm looking for a M+ build for boomy, but both icy veins and wowhead don't look ...
Then change the class tree to what you want
The actual important part of those... The spec tree, is correct.
Also heart of the wild is good
lofty depot
Hi fellas, i check guides and... wowhead said elune and icy keeper for m+? someo...
Play what u want, ur in the testing phase of a new expansion that isn't balanced around not having your full kit.
sturdy pumice
play boomkin, its good.
lofty depot
It's not
lucid olive
missed you
quiet drift
raw fox
lucid olive
soli is afk from dreamgrove for months and comes back to snitch on someone
raw fox
streets changed me
lofty depot
Mods don't ban other mods for saying keep yourself safe, why would they ban that
thorny sentinel
what has blizzard done to the class talent tree ? I have to pick 2 useless talents just to get to the bottom of the tree it's ridiculous
raw fox
what has blizzard done to the class talent tree ? I have to pick 2 useless talen...
i hate them too for that
lucid olive
its because you're getting 3 more points in total
and they dont want you to pick up everything at the bottom
thorny sentinel
it's literally healing or feral talents, it makes zero sense
lucid olive
but they didnt add any talents either they just made some of them two-pointers instead 
lofty depot
you're green name now
Smh happened forever ago
raw fox
yeah ik
thorny sentinel
its because you're getting 3 more points in total
ok makes more sense now thx
raw fox
I just realised he can pull the strings
and be the real puppet master
like sune once was
lofty depot
it's literally healing or feral talents, it makes zero sense
Some of those feral talents are DPS inceases
lofty depot
and be the real puppet master
If he's the puppet master why no sims
thorny sentinel
how ?
quiet drift
If you convoke those spells
lucid olive
the only feral talent to pick up is killer instinct
and it buffs melee convoke a bit and gives some armor
so its not complete useless
sturdy pumice
just make sure to run in on your melee group
bleak rivet
Gotta delete eclipse for moons to be fun
Ok hear me out. Our spells generate a moon shard, for easy visuals these shards float over our head. At 5 shards our starfire turns into full moon
lucid olive
Ok hear me out. Our spells generate a moon shard, for easy visuals these shards ...
if you change the name to mooncicles and moon spike
ancient thicket
Play what u want, ur in the testing phase of a new expansion that isn't balanced...
Thanks ma boy! โค๏ธ
ancient thicket
guides are just guessing right now
Ty for answer me assap ๐ซก โค๏ธ
bleak rivet
if you change the name to mooncicles and moon spike
Now we cooking
minor anchor
Moon Strike and moon kick
quiet drift
Shouldnt Orbit breaker proc Atmospheric exposure
lucid olive
loud kettle
ok robot
lucid olive
Shouldnt Orbit breaker proc Atmospheric exposure
Full Moon from Convoke doesn't proc it either
quiet drift
Ig they just decided
"this is the Fury of Elune spec"
and just put in the bag
None shant spec anything else
lucid olive
the hard casted full moon procs it at least
red flint
does anyone know how to make this stay visible for the duration
potent cargo
weak auras
lofty depot
does anyone know how to make this stay visible for the duration
u open the CDM and add the eclipse icons to your buffs
(no it doesnt stay)
tardy dew
sorry if its a dumb question (returning player), is there a bis race or have they "removed" that?
lofty depot
thats racist
delicate perch
sorry if its a dumb question (returning player), is there a bis race or have the...
welcome to OCE
lofty depot
generally speaking all the races are within 0.2% of each other... Last tier it changed a little cuz crit was good.. Most of the time nelf is gooder both for stats but also meld and the freaks for transmog
kindred token
Hi. How come the guide doesn't mention anything about when to use trinket in rotation?
lofty depot
if were using logic.... because u should be using it with your cooldowns.. likely macro'd to CA
macro it to ur CA
kindred token
Do you have macro to share?
lofty depot
rolls d20
lucid olive
there are macros in the guides but
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment
/use 14
put the trinket on the bottom trinket slot and it uses that item slot with CA
kindred token
put the trinket on the bottom trinket slot and it uses that item slot with CA
Thank you so much Gamz! ๐
tawny cloud
you can also just Shift Press the Trinket. it links it into the macro and uses it
lucid olive
but then you have to change your macro every time you swap a trinket
very inefficient when you can just type in the item slot
kindred token
Agreed
pseudo merlin
you're typing 14, not a thousand characters of pi
lucid olive
i bet you couldnt even do the first 10 decimals
pseudo merlin
uhh
kindred token
lol
lucid olive
and now youre googling
lucid olive
idk i usually stop paying attention after the 4
pseudo merlin
We don't need to think anymore
Use brain for other more productive things like not thinking
lucid olive
idk i asked chat gpt for help on my math class and it got the wrong answer like 6 times until i told it the right answer and it was like "oh yes that makes sense!"
dumbass ai
pseudo merlin
LMAO
Ok we have calculators for math
AI for everything else
Name a more iconic duo
lofty depot
idk i asked chat gpt for help on my math class and it got the wrong answer like ...
should send that to neph and ask him to fix it
split estuary
my eclipse icons pop up then go away
is that a new change?
they used to stay up the entire eclipes (returning boomie)
craggy sonnet
should send that to neph and ask him to fix it
But did you know he made a website now to download his add-ons because he is apparently getting taken down on CF and stuff
craggy sonnet
my eclipse icons pop up then go away
With icons you mean the textures next to your character model?
split estuary
I think so. Its the solar or lunar ball that would appear when you enter an eclipse
lofty depot
lunar ball.... do u mean the left and right ingame icons
rather than the CDM iconssssssssssss
split estuary
yeah the lunar one appears left and solar right
craggy sonnet
These never stayed up I think?
split estuary
they used to stay up the whole eclipse
craggy sonnet
You probably had some weakaura displaying these textures with a timer
craggy sonnet
But yeah, gotta track your eclipse via the CDM now (or some addon hard assigning the duration / grabbing info from the CDM)
split estuary
But yeah, gotta track your eclipse via the CDM now (or some addon hard assigning...
Thanks!
granite fox
for m+ is it better to go kepper of the grove or elune?
lucid olive
whichever one you find most fun
historically the better choice has been elune, but with pre-patch and weird tuning nobody really knows
lofty depot
not a difference we could accurately tell u about
mellow bolt
how we feeling balance after the patch bros
lofty depot
the same as we were feeling before the patch
glad helm
"than" is comparing two things
Bro you don't know how many times I got this explained but my brain doesn't wanna register this information for the life of me xd
glad helm
It's okay if you're Italian
I am (unfortunately)
dense steeple
Bro you don't know how many times I got this explained but my brain doesn't wann...
Try this way. Than with the pronunciation similar to AND would be like I have this AND that. 2 things that you have. But if someone asks which would you rather have, you have to think about those 2 things, so you'd rather have this THAN that
Because one is objectively better
Then is more: i went to the kitchen, then to the living room. Because its a series of events in time.
Then: event
Than: and
glad helm
Thanks, let's see if my brain will remember xd
dense steeple
Its worth a try!
glad helm
I do this mistake tons of times I gave up honestly
dense steeple
Either way it doesn't matter really
glad helm
It's not bad in spoken english 'cause it's hard to tell the difference hahaha
dense steeple
Our brains are wired to understand typos so like if people get really mad at you for it its more of a them problem
glad helm
No it's more about me getting mad at myself 'cause I KNOW I fuck it up most times, but again doesn't matter much people still get me
loud kettle
here you could easily tell the difference between then and than in spoken English, but here isn't everywhere so
glad helm
Lived abroad 3+ years and so I'm pretty confident in my english, but those silly mistakes do come up from time to time
dense steeple
My wife says im stupid and I shouldve said then: when
Instead of then: event
Which is guess works better lmao
Im not a teacher
lofty depot
ur wife probaly right
dense steeple
She was a biomedical physics tutor in college so I believe her
glad helm
Now since your wife knows better tell her to go to blizz and save moonkin balancing tyvm
dense steeple
I promise you my wife prays for our downfall
glad helm
I promise you my wife prays for our downfall
Wtf
lofty depot
I promise you my wife prays for our downfall
ask ur wife what Occulsion means
glad helm
Sounds like a hunter player to me
dense steeple
"If I have to contact Mr blizzard im having him delete the game"
loud kettle
I know what occlusion means
lofty depot
yea i didnt notice the typo
loud kettle
Occulsion is made up as far as im concerned
lucid olive
cause its a 2/2 set with another ring called omission of light
drifting nova
ask ur wife what Occulsion means
ai ass word
loud kettle
Definitely just a typo then
dense steeple
ask ur wife what Occulsion means
She says its not a word and likely a typo
normal pilot
is that the ring with the set bonus taht doesn't require a set
lofty depot
smart person smh
dense steeple
The real word actually works in both definitions
drifting nova
neither, the void is nothingness