What time is raid
#balance
true viper
eager raft
8-11 Tuesday Thursday Monday
For prog
Real talk tho if u know anyone who is decent and is looking for a guild tell them to dm me
lofty depot
Surely kb leaves gn
void jacinth
Hi
true viper
Real talk tho if u know anyone who is decent and is looking for a guild tell the...
Will do
eager raft
Surely kb leaves gn
Yeah the gn to do over moonkin pipeline
Is well established
by me
lofty depot
Well he's a feral
eager raft
Out of necessity maybe
fossil shard
Funny story….
eager raft
Funny story….
dm me……….
lofty depot
Tell the story
nimble tangle
Cuz it looks like shit
merry ibex
huh I thought I read something about denizen nerf in some recent patch notes but the ones dropping tomorrow say
ornate vigil
Hey everyone. Can someone help me with a question. I was today in dawnbreaker 13 with a rouge and frost mage and my damage was almost half of the mage. Something is happen with druid now or I’m doing something wrong ? I have elune my hero talent, i put dots on mops, i was kinda 90% of dungeon in eclipse and still like something is wrong/nerf. thank you. I will put also a picture with my stats on moonkin form.
pseudo merlin
balance is very bad atm
wow is never balanced during prepatch
tuning is ongoing on beta and all those changes will go live with the new xpac launch soon
merry ibex
Hey everyone. Can someone help me with a question. I was today in dawnbreaker 13...
On a dimmy reclear I think I was a 90% parse below some other dsp who had parses in the 30s
you are doing a fraction of the damage of the top dps in the prepatch
quiet drift
huh I thought I read something about denizen nerf in some recent patch notes but...
It got buffed by 50%
then nerfed by 25%
something like that
(on beta)
so still a buff for live
ornate vigil
Yeah honestly I was main lock since forever, didnt want to play something else because was easy and strong until now and since I start to play this druid I love it and I want to keep my main and do keys above 10. I was trying some low keys to learn/test build/rotation and was decent. But today in this one I get a little “scared” of his damage. In dawn also with my lock I didnt do crazy numbers at damage because of the packs, but still top dps.
lofty depot
huh I thought I read something about denizen nerf in some recent patch notes but...
That's the correct number
Goldrinn is wrong
pseudo merlin
Yeah honestly I was main lock since forever, didnt want to play something else b...
Balance is never going to have good damage other than some super brief periods maybe
IF you really care about damage go lock or mage
lofty depot
It got buffed by 50%
40 then reduced by 15
pseudo merlin
If you really enjoy druid and you aren't playing RWF, balance is just fine
merry ibex
So it doesnt seem like much will change in terms of builds
except maybe we take mushrooms again?
quiet drift
Mushrooms stink real bad
lofty depot
The only real build diffys we have is incarn vs convoke and weaver vs rattle
quiet drift
They still do less dmg than before and dont even give waning
lofty depot
But everything is essentially the same
Yea mushroom beans damage and isn't a modifier so what's the point
lofty depot
Make mushroom 1m CD but puts out 10 moonfires
merry ibex
Make mushroom 1m CD but puts out 10 moonfires
Thats actually kinda cooking Ive wanted a cooldown dot spreader on a CD for a while
kinda like spriest and aff have
eager raft
OS should apply all dots 🗣️ 🗣️
lofty depot
Mushroom is nature not arcane so is not lore acceptable
pseudo merlin
Thats actually kinda cooking Ive wanted a cooldown dot spreader on a CD for a wh...
- we play IN whenever it matters so we can't spread dots, and in that more fair comparison yall still have TM which we do not
There isn't a 2)
lofty depot
Trees spam moonfire tho hmm
pseudo merlin
Mushroom is nature not arcane so is not lore acceptable
make them sunflowers
lofty depot
Do they say sunflower or
pseudo merlin
yes
lucid olive
remove mushrooms for spec tree and change keeper of the grove to make your treants fungal themed
quiet drift
Trees spam moonfire tho hmm
They NEED to remove the annoying delay trees have
Why do they cast Moonfire like a second after spawn
pseudo merlin
remove mushrooms for spec tree and change keeper of the grove to make your trean...
i dont hate this
can we turn them into those giant fungal bog monsters
lofty depot
They NEED to remove the annoying delay trees have
they need to fix the targetting problem they have
lucid olive
i've always thought that dream burst should be consumed by starsurge instead of wrath/starfire
eager raft
i've always thought that dream burst should be consumed by starsurge instead of ...
should just be all of them
lucid olive
the talent is called dream surge
eager raft
well ya theres that
quiet drift
i've always thought that dream burst should be consumed by starsurge instead of ...
Felt like there was an insane push towards Filler importance in TWW
so prolly thats why its on Wrath
lucid olive
"using force of nature changes your starsurge into dreamsurge doing damage to nearby targets, capped to 5"
lucid olive
Felt like there was an insane push towards Filler importance in TWW
yeah for sure
eager raft
"using force of nature changes your starsurge into dreamsurge doing damage to ne...
that would be pretty in line with other midnight changes 
lucid olive
we came off of DF where we perma spammed spenders with no filler talents
then they removed Pulsar which was the biggest reason to spend
and made a bunch of wrath/starfire talents or passives
quiet drift
I need some CDR talent for spending AP
Eclipse or something
if they hate the idea of CA
lucid olive
yeah
lofty depot
I need some CDR talent for spending AP
lucid olive
but also make eclipse 45 seconds baseline with 2 charges
and the talent brings it down to 40 sec or something
eager raft
ec has the right idea with the stuff that reduces foe cd
lucid olive
then make CDR talent that gives 2s off for every like 60 AP spent in eclipse
quiet drift
ec has the right idea with the stuff that reduces foe cd
100%
lucid olive
also acting like pulsar so starweaver and cosmos procs count towards it
lofty depot
should have it the new keeper talent 😭
quiet drift
Optimizing uptime on EC is actually fun
lofty depot
said no one ever
lofty depot
mental illness room 🚪
lucid olive
said no one ever
this guy said it
lofty depot
that guy collects rocks
lucid olive
arctic acting like he didnt have a mineral phase
lofty depot
a lot of fake numbers
wicked shuttle
Actually used to
quiet drift
W rock
bleak rivet
Just saw your ranking vid, man crazy that arcane and demo are solid D tier specs.
wicked shuttle
DO NOT PING HIM MAN
bleak rivet
Man will do anything but clean his monitor.
mighty mica
lofty depot
u saw u saw!!
mighty mica
i don't even know what i'm supposed to be looking at
mighty mica
channel wasn't cached so i didn't get it
nimble tangle
Is it curved
potent cargo
to the right a few degrees
pseudo merlin
left
drifting nova
needs to be a dirtier screen if anything
lofty depot
well he posted a tierlist video so naturally his screen is as dirty has him
drifting nova
average aug player
wicked shuttle
No monitor arm + dirty monitor
Def have a monitor arm
craggy sonnet
not for your 2nd monitor smh
craggy sonnet
the monitor is doing a handstand you could say
true viper
Bro got the glare of death
dusk nacelle
Looks like we’re getting decent buffs tomorrow
lofty depot
we were already getting those buffs
and 6% buff when ur doing 10-20% less than the top isnt decent
lucid olive
i hope you got your healer frames set up for prog
dusk nacelle
Hmm I might be reading it wrong then was reading the patch notes for tomorrow and hopeful since my raid team wants me to dps and offspec heal
lofty depot
got your evoker frames ready
well they are for the patch tomorrow
they were already on beta
dusk nacelle
I see so the changes didn’t help much is what you’re saying
dusk nacelle
I hope so, I’m only doing heroic with some potential prog into mythic raid but I still don’t want to feel gimp and be bottom of the dps
dusk nacelle
I plan to really master the class so putting the time in hopefully pays off.
drifting nova
masterying a class with heroic gear should be fun, surely
thats me fr
found an early mythic guild last week
wanted references
like holy god is it a job
dont even give my jobs that info
smh
lofty depot
references? did u link to the dreamgrove?
drifting nova
I looked their wcl
slot me into the heroic runs
I'm 2nd
put me in coach
references smh
lofty depot
2nd?
drifting nova
whats next they want a deposit
(listen they had a warrior who did 99s across the board)
not my fault
on average 2nd
first loser
das me
lethal imp
We’ll need your references, then we’ll assign you a 12 hour take home assignment, then 5 rounds of interviews. If you make it to the final round, we’ll slot you into our weekly normal run for evaluation 
nimble tangle
twintops resource bar will reloads every time loading to a new map or reloading?
drifting nova
We’ll need your references, then we’ll assign you a 12 hour take home assignment...
the more I think about it the easier just playing classic is
lofty depot
twintops resource bar will reloads every time loading to a new map or reloading?
is it breaking or
pearl mirage
How do you guys feel about balance going into midnight compared to how it was in TWW?
lofty depot
gameplay maybe more fun cuz of weaver (if its better)...... damage just low
spare dune
Stupid question: based on the wowhead ST opener, why do I Starfire after my two Wraths? It is breaking my mind cause it’s like why am I including an AOE attack during my ST opener
lofty depot
Stupid question: based on the wowhead ST opener, why do I Starfire after my two ...
- that opener will likely change
- because theres downtime between those 2 wraths then starfire and if done correctly ur in lunar so it does more damage.. u could however cast 3 wraths and be fine
spare dune
1. that opener will likely change
2. because theres downtime between those 2 wra...
Got it, thanks!
Any idea if the opener will be shorter/longer?
lofty depot
4x wrath
or 3x w.e. it is
wrath wrath wrath (wrath) +
ones of these prob
dots eclipse starsurge wrath trees ca starsurge convoke
dots eclipse starfall wrath trees ca starsurge convoke
dots trees ca wrath surge convoke
dots trees ca surge convoke
nimble tangle
is it breaking or
Not breaking but after reloading or loading maps, I can see resource bar quick flashing
nimble tangle
wrath wrath wrath (wrath) +
ones of these prob
dots eclipse starsurge wrath tre...
I almost thought you were taking about EC single target opener and rotation
lofty depot
make a gif and show
nimble tangle
I dunno how to
lofty depot
sharex
nimble tangle
I’m a typical office worker who calls IT for everything
lofty depot
yea and im the sales manager that took "Information Technology 101 & 102" in middle school so im naturally the guy that fixes every office problem
lofty depot
its just less of a buff
merry ibex
now its 24%?
merry ibex
not 19 +5?
lofty depot
its not +
cuz it was 25% first
then they did another 5% later... but that 5% gets * on the new number
merry ibex
thought starsurge had its own 5% buff too
oh so its just 19 instead of 30
why does blizzard hate druid lol
lofty depot
original * the first buff (25%) * the new buff 5%
(1 x 1.25) x 1.05
i dont think they even notice druid
ask feral how they feel
lofty depot
who said were mid
merry ibex
lol
lofty depot
u rather be op then nerfed down
sudden pawn
why would u want to be op in prepatch
merry ibex
so its 19% 100%?
lofty depot
lock always has some bs spec that gets nerfed into middle/top
lofty depot
so its 19% 100%?
idk.... wait til simc datamines the shit and puts it into the spelldatadump 🙂
lofty depot
yeet
dense steeple
man i havent seen a piss name in awhile
wintry furnace
is it viable to take rattle instead of starweaver?
and what are you guys using to track your eclipses? I am having a hard time using the cooldown manager version >_<
lofty depot
is it viable to take rattle instead of starweaver?
and what are you guys using t...
we dont know which one is better.
i just use icons for the buffs and an icon for the cd
mild chasm
i dont think they even notice druid
Gotta make alot of noise to be noticed
mild chasm
original * the first buff (25%) * the new buff 5%
(1 x 1.25) x 1.05
Blizzard and math 🙃
lofty depot
Blizzard and math 🙃
either the blue poster is making shit up
or the original was fake
mild chasm
Gotta make more noise 🙂
mild chasm
or the original was fake
I think they dont know either and debatting on it 😂
lofty depot
wel idk whats correct cuz the SP number isnt what i thought it was
lofty depot
uhh kill all the rares and get a mount
vital hound
mild chasm
<a:Nopers:784755362599272478>
Prepare gear for alts?
mild chasm
wel idk whats correct cuz the SP number isnt what i thought it was
Same boat buddy
lofty depot
boosted ilvl is 99
fiery kindle
hello guys, Is it in a playable condition?
lofty depot
define playable
glossy jungle
fiery kindle
The last time I tried it in pre-patch, we were dealing tank damage
vital hound
lofty depot
well in prepatch ur gonna be doing 6% more damage
fiery kindle
lofty depot
(we dont do damage in prepatch)
lofty depot
the buffs help leveling locken
uhhh i mean theres a lot of problem with how prepatch is
fiery kindle
It's in pretty bad shape; it wasn't like this in war within s3
lofty depot
we dont really do damage on beta either
but some of the apex talents give good damage
fiery kindle
I dont want resto druid to enter the meta anymore
fiery kindle
I think it will be great in Raid, so many adds
fiery kindle
but I want it to be good on m+ too, damn
lofty depot
no u dont
fiery kindle
they increase survivable, so I think high keys can be made
fiery kindle
need all the fotms to play not boomkin
yeah u right, but.. feral? xD
lofty depot
we could always do high keys
lofty depot
us doing high keys usually didnt have to do with us dying
fiery kindle
We were giving up on DPS to stay alive, i guess
lofty depot
well that implies we do damage in the first place
fiery kindle
I'm talking about the 21s and 22s
lofty depot
ik what ur talking about
fiery kindle
I haven't played another class, boomie is important to me lol
lofty depot
yea i just hate m+ andys
fiery kindle
Otherwise, I wouldn't have to think about any of this if I just played the demo warlock
lofty depot
i would suggest just playing lock
fiery kindle
always meta
lofty depot
3 chances for class to be meta.....
fiery kindle
Has been dealing tank damage for 3 seasons
Thanks for the chat, I needed someone who understood me xD
lofty depot
thats what u get for playing the wrong spec
fiery kindle
thats what u get for playing the wrong spec
yeah maybe u right but i feel more comfortable
lofty depot
roll d20
fiery kindle
lofty depot
..
delicate perch
no roll = they rolled a 1
lofty depot
hmm
that then means its -1 cuz hes a feral
or rather -d6
ok so 0
nonetheless.........wasnt last season the closest it was to doing damage?
delicate perch
feral was in some of the top keys too (not that minigame matters)
nimble tangle
delicate perch
yea weird (I am talking about him being logged in)
vale silo
Yeah, there's some flickering on load in because it is setting up/positioning the bars as CDM gets its sizing straight. Especially for Balance Druids this is more noticeable.
lofty depot
mine prodbably doesnt do that cuz mine isfixed
rekt again on ur stupid alignment shit
L
nimble tangle
fathom dome
They.. they made eclipse a button? Its beautiful.
craggy sonnet
<@121360917907767296> do i need to do anything in prepatch
Knew you couldn't put it away for good..
delicate perch
<@121360917907767296> do i need to do anything in prepatch
weak
spice roost
vital hound
delicate perch
yeah you would
vital hound
delicate perch
yea I'm stealing that
vital hound
sudden flame
Very inefficient could have just pressed exit game and saved 3 clicks
vital hound
wouldnt make for a great gif tho
delicate perch
lmfao never gets old
loud kettle
not me
minor anchor
Guys the Love is the Air event gives you haste on Dummies in Capital today
It feels like Meth
highly recommed
round field
wowzers
vale pebble
wowzers
lofty depot
Have u considered logging out
fresh fable
hello Boomies, i need some help, my dammage are so fucking low since this prepatch can u have some optimal talents build for M+ ? It's better to play Elune or Keeper ? ( also for m+)
lofty depot
Wowhead
fresh fable
xD
round field
bamker stinks
lofty depot
Prepatch damage is shit
fresh fable
no slution at all ? we are just fucked up by this patch ?
lofty depot
Yes
round field
no magic fix
lofty depot
Today's patch isn't gonna magically fix it either
round field
o7
spare dune
Do you eventually find a rhythm for keeping eclipses rolling and maintaining dots? I feel like I’m always messing up one or the other as a newbie to chicken
fresh fable
yep i think i'v found it, but the dammages still low
just for know guys what's your best overall these days ?
lofty depot
Eclipse is just entering with a lot of asp and certain timings with trees
Dots is refresh in pandemic, likely same as before
B maybe we refresh before eclipse/CDs who knows
lofty depot
just for know guys what's your best overall these days ?
- Overall isnt a good metric of damage. It changes based on key, key level, and other class participants.
- Ain't no one keeping track of that during prepatch when classes are broken
craggy sonnet
I don't even remember when I played the last key this season.. damn.
glad helm
I see some tierlists pushing balance to A tier with the beta changes, is that extreme coping or what
Thought buffs weren't that great or did I miss something
jaunty blaze
Tierlists are fake
glad helm
If I look at meters it's despair tho so gotta keep finding some coping somewhere
lofty depot
Coping about some dorks opinion on a class they don't plays ability to do damage
But nonetheless, when u see arcane and demo doing the damage they do.... Tragic really
daring gull
pretty sure i know the answer to this but does our survivability get better at 90? i feel so fucking squishy doing shit rn with the removal of our defensives.
lofty depot
Renewal being removed isn't big
And u got hotw now
U probably feel squishy cuz ur healers have to play the game more
daring gull
thats fair
the oh shit button being gone just feelsbad cuz even shifting into bear and frenzying doesnt feel safe
glad helm
But nonetheless, when u see arcane and demo doing the damage they do.... Tragic ...
Levelling my mage as we speak xd
lofty depot
There's nothing that u take damage from that will 1 shot u
So idk what ur dying to, or what u feel like that's the case
daring gull
dumb shit is what i was dying to
glad helm
I'm new to retail and I am still choosing my main for midnight, I might reroll the druid to resto and play the mage as dps
daring gull
was doing the prepatch event farming the rares and just pulling mobs a lot
lofty depot
Well that's just mobs being scaled to everyone attacking it and u getting aggro
That's not really something ur defensives are balanced against and sound be taken as ur survivability
daring gull
yeah i guess the scaling is what threw me off
more likely tho im just being a shitter
hadnt played in a few months
lofty depot
All of that can be true
lofty depot
I'm new to retail and I am still choosing my main for midnight, I might reroll t...
Depends what ur doing.... In most cases where a spec lands on the "projected damage output" doesn't matter for 99% of the player base. Most just cope about it
You can play w.e. u want and just play better than your guild/group
daring gull
as long as you press buttons better than the lowest person pressing buttons thats all that matters
craggy sonnet
the oh shit button being gone just feelsbad cuz even shifting into bear and fren...
Press hotw
wintry umbra
Press hotw
The bear form one or wild growth version?
lofty depot
Depends what u need
30% HP seems gooder
Need to be in bear tho
WG pushes u to human form
maiden pasture
Having druid util be some cheeky off healing would be cool again
Some people hate it cause they're DPS/log fiends but I'm a fan
lofty depot
If i could log fiend and care about healing parse I would
But shits useless and we do no healing :/
wintry umbra
Time to grey parse DPS but orange parse healing
blissful star
hi guys, how accurate its that incarnation + elune guidance sims a lot more than convoke, can i trust that?
nimble tangle
NA server is up?
tacit oriole
\
craggy sonnet
WG pushes u to human form
It's not on the GCD tho, which is kinda nice
quiet drift
Optimal root breaking button
lofty depot
It's not on the GCD tho, which is kinda nice
True, but still requires the fluid form cast
Suppose if it's being timed right outside of eclipse it won't matter
craggy sonnet
Ye
At least it is instant and not on any lockout
And seemingly already healing quite alright even before the buffs
lofty depot
And seemingly already healing quite alright even before the buffs
Yea God forbid my regrowth heal at all
lofty depot
Yes
craggy sonnet
I think it's pretty good. Apparently heals for something like 2 health bars or so across the 5(?) targets
So something like 30-50% per target
craggy sonnet
I think it's fun as hell tho that they went and made a note on how they want to increase the hybrid st self heal capabilities and then nerfed it the next cycle
lofty depot
Well u see.... Get fucked
tacit oriole
Get fucked, stay fucked
royal zenith
Also they will nerf this again once there’s no healer present in MDI
The circle of life
lofty depot
I always like seeing those groups don't 4 DPS keys
It's not like everyone can do it, let them half their fun
drifting nova
Also they will nerf this again once there’s no healer present in MDI
why does mdi even exist
sly wadi
big numbers go brrrr
drifting nova
healer devs?
normal pilot
all their work going to waste
drifting nova
I'm sat in a dungeon dancing around on my paladin
lofty depot
Healer devs are lucky they feel anything
normal pilot
shoulda played dps if you want to dps
drifting nova
shouldnt of tried to force battle healer
and focus on healers doing dps in m+
if they didnt want healer damage
drifting nova
I initially hated battle paladin in shadowlands
having not played it since like mop
lofty depot
Just wait til they don't need tanks damage
drifting nova
haha
lofty depot
That shit is going crazy right now
lofty depot
What chunks even
It's what blows out ur ass after eating taco bell
royal zenith
Just saying
craggy sonnet
if they didnt want healer damage
Hpal is doing dmg tho
craggy sonnet
It's what blows out ur ass after eating taco bell
Ahh, got you
drifting nova
Hpal is doing dmg tho
no, now
craggy sonnet
Never had taco bell. But can relate
royal zenith
Taco bell is really bad
Bottom of the barrel shit
Kekkers would prefer it probably
sly wadi
no cheeky nandos? Next you'll say you don't even know the archbishop of banterbury
drifting nova
lemme see where my closest one even is
ah hell no
it's in narnia
TIL theres a place named tiddington
yeah its on the motorway, no way
jade flume
Boys, any good mens fragrances recommendations
drifting nova
lynx africa
royal zenith
armani code
eager raft
armani code
Hey
royal zenith
sup
jade flume
Could try the code on g
nimble tangle
Men need no fragrance, men are fragrance
lofty depot
try a shower first bub
jade flume
I'm just gonna get some good perfume
merry ibex
ah
ok ty
iim shit at math
so yea
lol
still sucks that once we get to 90
were becoming less powerful
lol
lucid olive
what do you mean
lofty depot
Why do u think we're less powerful
lucid olive
you should stop hearing stuff
lofty depot
That's not what that means
lucid olive
i think your hearing conflicts with your reasoning or logic
merry ibex
why do people complain that even with these changes that are already on beta that boomkin has terrible output damage
in almost any boomie video i see
lofty depot
Well u misinterpreted what we say as, boomkin does no damage with we lose power
merry ibex
i c
lofty depot
We don't have power on prepatch.... We gain a little bit in midnight but it still doesn't make us do insane damage
lucid olive
tuning during beta and prepatch does not matter
merry ibex
fair enough
lofty depot
U don't lose damage
lucid olive
there are still 2-3 weeks from expac release until any real content drops
lofty depot
2-3 weeks of no sims
merry ibex
do you think they'll still continue buffing them?
lofty depot
They always do
lucid olive
who knows what they do
merry ibex
alright
lucid olive
buff the lower specs
nerf higher specs
its the cycle of patch content
its the same every 3 months
merry ibex
💯 understood
by the way this is all from a pvper perspective
lol so pvpers get more anxious with nerfs/buffs
haha
lofty depot
Well this channel has nothing to do with that
merry ibex
yea i know
lofty depot
And our assumption of damage isn't based on pvp
lofty depot
It's like 12 people not 5%
pseudo merlin
is oiui out of beta yet
lofty depot
is oiui out of beta yet
Sune tm
nimble tangle
Buff more
Boomie needs more buff, more
Another aura 8%
Reverse meteorite 10% nerf
lofty depot
U actually rather them not buff meteorites so u don't have to take it for st
But that talent is always ass and they refuse to make it good
Shrug
Need the Starfall/surge 5% buff and then the 8% overall... For the even 10% inc
drifting nova
bring back 5% aura crit
urban mural
holy shit we are so back, ~~huuuuge ~~ regular sized buffs
urban mural
I had a feeling i recoginzed some of them, still im happy
stone ledge
Boomie is so back (to the bottom 5)
nova ocean
How many times have they tried giving us some my like meteorites?
It's so funny cause they haven't learned that it's always op or dead
lofty depot
Most of our talents are within like 0.5% of each other
cloud citrus
yea was going to say the boomy talent tree feels quite nice atm
nova ocean
I still can't believe they haven't replaced the talent that gives us 2 seconds of eclipse
I was sure it was a place holder talent
lofty depot
yea was going to say the boomy talent tree feels quite nice atm
It feels quit dumb
There's like 5 talents ur choosing between with ur last 1-2 points and they all do passive dogshit and don't actually matter
nova ocean
We have one of the most bland trees in game with little choice that matters haha
cloud citrus
tbh how many trees have talents that can change around that actually matter O.o
lofty depot
I still can't believe they haven't replaced the talent that gives us 2 seconds o...
Its not 2a of eclipse
nova ocean
Typi
lofty depot
It's 2s cdr
lofty depot
tbh how many trees have talents that can change around that actually matter O.o
We'll see other specs change around like 5 talents between depending on the level of aoe
We change like 2
Or swap to EC
meager storm
our tree is full of passive dogsht 
lofty depot
Which then then it's still roughly the same tree
I get there has to be passive slop.... I just wish there was a few more non passive slops
nova ocean
Doesn't help that all our non passives are on choice nodes expect for trees which is only cause they removed the ability it was with lol
lofty depot
I should say passive I don't mean like rattle vs weaver
lofty depot
No
Most of these talents are just "surge does more damage while dots are applied"
"Wrath does more damage while in eclipse...."
nova ocean
Ec with moons and fury would be actually be cool
lofty depot
This is just passive damage increase to ur play that it already doing.
pliant dawn
is this shapeshift nomal when i used treant form? XD is the new race form and on live server
lofty depot
I would prefer if talents actually changed how u played
lofty depot
is this shapeshift nomal when i used treant form? XD is the new race form and on...
It's the hananir tree form
loud kettle
its a bug yes
cloud citrus
I would prefer if talents actually changed how u played
Like... mop? :>
lofty depot
Like on frost mage, there's talents that u basically want to spam ice lance
(in tww)
Vs frostfire bolt spamming and using them more passively
cloud citrus
That exists in midnight but it changes based on your hero talents
similar to how EC and KOTG change how you play
lofty depot
Well but that should feel different
SP had the difference aswell when swapping talents at the bottom
cloud citrus
Ye i think KotG should def have something instead of fury of elune
lofty depot
Weaver, Kindling, incarn/convoke is really the only difference we have in style
cloud citrus
Similar to how KotG had treants and EC had instant starfire skill
I feel like hero talents were meant to be like this tbh
Like KotG centered around trees what different kind of talents do you have to change how trees react
lofty depot
I mean u could make choice nodes on wrath doing the dream surge AOE vs surge
Or surge vs starfall interacting with it
Could've made it so u can spawn a giga tree instead to actually be a tank tree
Spawn that bitch like warlock summon the golem thing
Make wild mushroom moonfire every mob in an area.... And then make sunseeker do damage instead.
@wicked shuttle new segment /interview idea for u when ur at rwf..... Get Sang to explain lore to u
U can ask him why illidan was in the gul'dan fight
lucid olive
that sounds boring as hell
lofty depot
He said he didn't understand the lore... Now he can learn along with everyone else that doesn't know
It's informative
dense steeple
ay, why is my talents reset
lofty depot
So many changes maybe u wanted to change them
craggy sonnet
The patch is live already in NA?
Curious if they nuked some of the CDM leaks
tough wave
Looks like they got rid of the eclipse button
lucid olive
look again
tough wave
nvm just back in your spell book haha
lucid olive
did they fix the shape of the Eclipse talent yet
dense steeple
the funniest shit about this is "we noticed your talents were making you do too much damage so we fixed it"
lucid olive
@dense steeple screenshot the talent page for me
dense steeple
<@143129233860984832> screenshot the talent page for me
lofty depot
Rekt
dense steeple
normal pilot
what's wrong with it
lucid olive
active abilities are squares, choice nodes are rounded corners and passives are circles
normal pilot
oh
dense steeple
okay but can i get a tldr on what i need for the left tree
since they gave me 11 points
loud kettle
Tldr: god
normal pilot
just click on the starter build
lofty depot
okay but can i get a tldr on what i need for the left tree
Grab shit
lucid olive
The reason your trees changed is cause they increased the 20 gate in class tree to 23 instead
lofty depot
U have so many points
loud kettle
Oh are servers up
dense steeple
The reason your trees changed is cause they increased the 20 gate in class tree ...
god thats dog
lucid olive
idk if Druid was already affected by it but a lot of other classes still had their bottom part of class tree locked behind 20 instead of the intended 23
loud kettle
Losing points in the bottom today sadge
lucid olive
its cause you have 3 more points in class tree
craggy sonnet
but i dont have them today 🙁
dense steeple
probably the best we can do tbh
rare cradle
damn. if only they hadnt called it warcraft
dense steeple
move improved stamp to fluid or innervate if wanted
loud kettle
forestwalk hater I see
craggy sonnet
losing points so i can earn them back while leveling
dense steeple
forestwalk useless in current content rn tbh
loud kettle
So is oakskin
craggy sonnet
always useless
dense steeple
oakskin there to give fluid form if you dont need the roar
press bark on cd prosper
loud kettle
you dont have fluid form tho
craggy sonnet
spoiler, you dont need the roar
dense steeple
spoiler, you dont need the roar
true, boss dies too fast now
loud kettle
Take hotw 😎
true viper
Grok what talents do i use for last 2 newest wow patch
lucid olive
grok show this talent page without the dress
craggy sonnet
lucid olive
so is roar
dense steeple
the healer who dies doing something silly and needs to catch up 🙂
stone ledge
Why are we adding responsibilities
loud kettle
Fights are so fast healers can't run out of mana if they tried
true viper
Mfs be adding side quests in the class tree
lofty depot
Why are we adding responsibilities
So we're not on the bench
stone ledge
So we're not on the bench
Ngl that shit bound into ca
lofty depot
That doesn't make any sense
stone ledge
It does when your healer is a 2 min cd and makes the healing note 😃
lucid olive
if healer asks for innervate same point of the fight for every pull on prog
loud kettle
Innervate is 3min cd tho
lucid olive
then theyre gonna get it for every pull on reclear too
lofty depot
then theyre gonna get it for every pull on reclear too
I try to build the muscle memory early.... Then healer like oh I need it 30 seconds later and I tilt
lucid olive
The worst is the disc priest who wants it 10s on the pull timer
can't make weakaura to alert me for it anymore
lofty depot
Hmmm, hopefully I don't have disc player
nova ocean
Speaking of innervate is there a replacement of the innervate wa
lucid olive
yeah voice
nova ocean
Get reked healers
nova ocean
Why u play a bad talent
craggy sonnet
use audio alerts .. let the game read you whispers
nova ocean
How sexy can I make the voice
craggy sonnet
no clue
loud kettle
as sexy as you want
quiet drift
W we are so back
pallid bay
W we are so back
meager storm
passive one
meager storm
been up for like 1 hour
craggy sonnet
fur spec sucks just as much
sullen pier
Good evening everyone, is there an addon that can show me when I don't have the Moonkin form buff?
sullen pier
ok, ty
craggy sonnet
what .. fluid form value comes just from you forgetting you arent in form?
nimble tangle
we are on tierlist?
lofty depot
tierlist meta has begun
stone ledge
were A tier on my favorite streamer
Who we glazing
lofty depot
i actually dont watch him... i just meme
shut nebula
WE ARE D TIER ON A TIERLIST MY FAVOURITE STERAMER POSTED OMG GUYS
big sandbag angle we take those
lofty depot
sandbag what
lofty depot
spec is too simple
nah spec hard now
native wharf
we are a potato 🙂
lofty depot
u got procs
lofty depot
nhuh
pseudo merlin
@drifting nova how do I get rid of this
drifting nova
<@253616853157412865> how do I get rid of this
finish ya quest, doofus
delicate perch
WE ARE D TIER ON A TIERLIST MY FAVOURITE STERAMER POSTED OMG GUYS
Pandatv made a tier list??
pseudo merlin
if it sees a potato on the ground
potent cargo
Pandatv made a tier list??
food tier list prolly
pseudo merlin
and there is a quest in t he game that requires a potato AT SOME POINT
drifting nova
Pandatv made a tier list??
respec my aussie smh
pseudo merlin
it marks it
potent cargo
wonder how chingers feels about getting gastro surgey
when he coulda just hopped on ozempic
delicate perch
food tier list prolly
Food s tier
Exercise f tier
drifting nova
and there is a quest in t he game that requires a potato AT SOME POINT
oh idk whatever you turned on I dont have that
nimble tangle
why tf this game feels more laggy and clunky after patch
drifting nova
turn off w/e quest plugin you have
delicate perch
Too many people (like 5 of you) logged in at once
pseudo merlin
oh it was this
lofty depot
why tf this game feels more laggy and clunky after patch
welcome to wow patches
craggy sonnet
why tf this game feels more laggy and clunky after patch
new to the game, or?
delicate perch
nimble tangle
dense dawn
Are we playing these now for M+?
lofty depot
not running kindling is probably a choice
theres builds on wowhead, nothing is set in stone, we dont have sims
dense dawn
Yeah i been playing with the dummys, just seeing what peoples thoughts are.
Wowhead isnt updated.
dense dawn
dense dawn
Throw me the link please bud.
lucid olive
yeah the talent pages update independently from the guide
you're on the page in your screenshot bud
dense dawn
Ok thanks
lucid olive
the builds that show up on the talent page are from the wowhead talent calculator
lucid olive
dense dawn
drifting nova
true viper
@lucid olive What do i use on dimensius hurry
true viper
👌
tawny nest
okay not to be schizo but I'm feel like I'm gaslighting myself right now. I feel like I can't pick up as many of my bottom row class talents as I could before. did something change?
craggy sonnet
they taketh away to giveth back
tawny nest
talent trees are such dog man just take these away
lofty depot
u get 4 more points in a few weeks
craggy sonnet
doesnt make it any less ridiculous really
great evergreen system they got going there
cant wait to pick up ironfur going into last titan cause there aint any other points left
normal pilot
this is the evergreen part
you'll always only ever have a limited number to spend on the lowest part
no real power growth
lofty depot
doesnt make it any less ridiculous really
nah ull take rake into grevious wounds for a dps inc
misty glade
I haven't logged on in weeks and just did NK farm ... are we doing almost negative damage?
meager storm
lofty depot
I haven't logged on in weeks and just did NK farm ... are we doing almost negati...
well u just killed NK so u tell me
misty glade
finished 17 of 20 /thumbsup
lofty depot
skrill issue?
misty glade
almost assuredly
cursive whale
is boomie bugged asf? my dmg is halved from last week and i changed nothing about what im pressing and my talents on spec tree are the exact same
the frog is going on
lofty depot
have u tried pressing ur buttons
glad helm
have u tried pressing ur buttons
I press them and I suck, got a cure for that?
lofty depot
m+ log.... disgusting
glad helm
😄
Well I can show you some logs from Hc
just for context, I have never done them before on hc so I was trying to care about mechanics more then my dps, but I was still trying
I'm Bloodhgarm
glad helm
I wish I was sovet xddddddddd
If you look at other bosses as well I might have died on a few of those so don't count those I guess
lofty depot
should be convoking after the 2nd surge
wasting boat
2nd ca is used with 2nd trees
not randomly like this
fair mist
wait did we lose the thing where starfall and starfire make the other one free? booo
lofty depot
u shouldve sent eclipse after ur incarn ended when u got near full asp
glad helm
2nd ca is used with 2nd trees
oh I thought you would press it as soon as the first full ecplise is over
makes sense
lofty depot
wait did we lose the thing where starfall and starfire make the other one free? ...
no
ur likely just not talented into it
glad helm
so you always use treant + one charge of CA
lofty depot
oh I thought you would press it as soon as the first full ecplise is over
no
u CA always with trees
and then u convoke always with CA
in which case your 3rd CA comes up around 130 and u dont press it until ur convoke is up
glad helm
Should I convoke only AFTER I get 3 starsurge stack or it doesn't matter?
lofty depot
u should convoke after dumping ur asp
glad helm
I see
glad helm
wait did we lose the thing where starfall and starfire make the other one free? ...
wdym
glad helm
xd
lofty depot
also this is often a new balance druid thing
youre spending asp to empty a lot
see how ur near empty always.
u generally only full dump at the start of eclipse/cds
this isnt really a problem when theres negative mechanics in fights... but as a learning thing. You want to have asp
glad helm
mmh I see, I thought once I get full I just always dump and rebuild
lofty depot
u want to dump asp in eclipse
meager storm
u are also low ilvl
lofty depot
but furthermore u want to have asp in general
glad helm
u are also low ilvl
waiting on vault tomorrow, got 190 crest sitting
big upgrades coming tomorrow
lofty depot
(we dont care about ilvl when were playing wrong)
glad helm
(we dont care about ilvl when were playing wrong)
true that
ok this was for my KOTG single target spec
how does it work when I have EC in M+ and I'm running fury of elune and incarn
lofty depot
well u foe on cd
glad helm
I always send fury with incarn like it was treanta?
lofty depot
and then u use ur eclipse/incarn when u want to do damage
glad helm
yeah yeah
lofty depot
u dont hold it until u understand why u should hold it
glad helm
if I know I'm holding eclipse for last pack before boss I might just send it without anything
lofty depot
(which is generally never)
usually u get the feel for dungeons as it goes
as m+ goes on u know where ur incarns go
ull know where ur eclipses go aswell
glad helm
yeah I'm still learning the dungeons as well, it's like I'm doing many things at the same time so it's a bit slow but I can already feel getting better by doing the same dungeon some more times
getting familiar with routes and different packs
like today I did my first 10 and 11
so still gotta push those higher keys
maiden ember
did we get buffed
lofty depot
yes