it was rotationally passive
#balance
drifting nova
lofty depot
Does damage
lofty depot
No one cares about prepatch grow up
drifting nova
believe it or not
refer to what I said earlier
for those that DIDNT PLAY EARLY ACCESS
it's a barometer for how the class plays in the next xpac
exotic storm
Hey at least I don't have to cast Starfire to be able to enter solar lol
drifting nova
the people that pay to play early access (beta) will play the game regardless
lofty depot
And get an instant cast after
drifting nova
lofty depot
U play the game regardless dork
exotic storm
I'm fine with another try on Eclipse, I've been through so many, this surely isn't the worst
charred thorn
when do u wanna be in solar eclipse? only ST?
drifting nova
having played a half gcd spec before (arms)
going from a passive and downgrading is bad
going from afull gcd to a half
is an upgrade
it's what it went from and to
formal crest
the new mastery is great, the new eclipse is ass
lofty depot
I'm fine with another try on Eclipse, I've been through so many, this surely isn...
Tww and DF the worse version
drifting nova
sweeping strikes from arms has been a half gcd for 10years at this point
exotic storm
I didn't hate them, but the timing was annoying
drifting nova
it was NEVER a passive
exotic storm
I'm still Sine Curve was peak.
lofty depot
Prefer empowerments, deal with eclipse :/
drifting nova
the new mastery is great, the new eclipse is ass
the fact I dont even know what the mastery is shows how meh it is
it changed..great?
exotic storm
Masteries are never that big a deal
formal crest
the new eclipse just sucks balls
charred thorn
what addon u guys use for nameplates?
nimble tangle
mushroom question: does wild mushroom extra damages in 10 seconds after detonation overlap?
formal crest
shouldve just made it OGCD
drifting nova
shouldve just made it OGCD
the 1 step between passive and half
but blizzard hates ogcd
exotic storm
If you cast CA and Solar do the durations just get added?
formal crest
but its just a fake fix
couldve just left it as is
was no problem with dreamstate
lofty depot
what addon u guys use for nameplates?
Plattynator, jundies profile
formal crest
i dont know what a single apex talent is for any spec or class
just waiting for launch
lofty depot
If you cast CA and Solar do the durations just get added?
No u can't press solar I think
drifting nova
the 2nd? point is instant cast on eclipse
aka woe
its kotg buffs galore
and ec nerfs
read the 4th apex point like 10times..and its just passive dam
unless I cant read
exotic storm
No u can't press solar I think
that's probably only complaint is you can't get both on cd at start
exotic storm
only if the durations combine
lofty depot
Why would that matter
charred thorn
Plattynator, jundies profile
can u send me the profile?
lofty depot
The CA buff doesn't last that long, ur boat window doesn't stack.....
lofty depot
can u send me the profile?
Go look up jundies profile as stated
exotic storm
I mean if the CA eclipse just overrides the solar duration it doesn't do anything right?
cedar forge
only if the durations combine
they don't
lofty depot
I mean if the CA eclipse just overrides the solar duration it doesn't do anythin...
Correct
exotic storm
that feels clunky
lofty depot
The only thing u might've gained was bolt damage and a free wrath
Why does that feel clunky
Why r u entering eclipse when CA already does it
We didn't precast wrath before CA before cuz we wanted to enter eclipse
Why do u think u need to enter solar before ca
feral dust
so any new builds with the buffs and nerfs that came this week?
lofty depot
Should be the same
exotic storm
It's a CD that we can't use on pull and get it on CD is what I mean, that feels meh. if you could just get 30s of Solar at the start would feel marginally better and get that 32 second recharge timer going.
lucid olive
thats a sim question
lucid olive
you dont know if entering eclipse before CA in opener is a gain or not
normal pilot
sounds like you want eclipse to start at 0 charges on pull
lucid olive
real
@normal pilot i been meaning to DM you, is there anything you know of that needs testing before we can have sims implemented?
unique remnant
Can someone pass me the pre-patch PVE M+ talents
lofty depot
Can someone pass me the pre-patch PVE M+ talents
Wowhead
lucid olive
i've had nothing to do for days and can't really think of anything that needs testing either
jaunty blaze
👀 sims
normal pilot
er idk but for sure going to need tons of debugging/testing to see if sims are correct
lofty depot
Hurry up so I can start debugging gogogog
normal pilot
i ask mods to make a tc channel here like every other discord but idk if that's even gonna happen
lucid olive
yeah as soon as I see a (druid) commit in the simc github i'm running it down mid
lucid olive
i ask mods to make a tc channel here like every other discord but idk if that's ...
yeah shit goes slow around here
lofty depot
The old person got the same info we did, the new person is the one that writes compendium
normal pilot
if not i'll just have to make a searate discord for tc/reseearch/bugreports to happen in
lucid olive
at least we got 1 request thru
lofty depot
"tettles bad I don't trust"
unique remnant
Why
From my experience, all this time she has not been very good with that page and the talents, I think they are fine for a standard configuration
lofty depot
She?
normal pilot
github issue tracker is kind of annoying to use unfort
lucid olive
I don't usually trust that page much, it's not usually very trustworthy
what do you trust instead
cedar forge
Noted, Gamz cannot be trusted. also is a woman
lofty depot
Yea fricc gamz
unique remnant
what do you trust instead
Krona,canexx,Loutus
exotic storm
sounds like you want eclipse to start at 0 charges on pull
Eh, I honestly don't care. If Eclipse is that weak that it doesn't matter that we spend 15 seconds with it off cd and not pressed fine, it just doesn't feel conceptually good to me to not get a CD on CD on pull. It doesn't mesh well with other spec design.
lofty depot
Krona,canexx,Loutus
So go ask in krona discord then
lucid olive
Krona,canexx,Loutus
aha
normal pilot
wowhead is usually good to use right after an xpac launches so you can generally refer to it during that time
lucid olive
so you trust the people asking about talents in my DMs but not the talents i put on wowhead
normal pilot
it's prolly at it's worst before the xpac and late in the patch when nobody updates
nimble tangle
🤡
lucid olive
wowhead is usually good to use right after an xpac launches so you can generally...
yeah for sure
lofty depot
so you trust the people asking about talents in my DMs but not the talents i put...
Whoaaaa leak
(TC discord scoundrels)
unique remnant
So go ask in krona discord then
I usually do it, but right now he's not playing, so I didn't ask him.
lucid olive
it all is based on the same theorycrafting
jaunty blaze
Secret echo builds
normal pilot
druid theorycrafting is very very limited atm
lucid olive
wowhead, dreamgrove, krona, canexx, goop, icyveins
it all stems from the same discord
lofty depot
Goop goop goop
normal pilot
there's maybe 2 ppl equivalents doing it for spec
lofty depot
Just wait til he sees all the EC builds on beta running around different shit for 1-2% differences
lucid olive
since start of TWW its basically been me and Oi doing bulk of work with 5-6 other contributors at lesser scale
except for the actual SimC class module that Gastank is a master and savant at
normal pilot
idk how much i've worked on it tbh
maybe one day spec will be overtuned and more ppl will want to theorycraft it
lofty depot
We were so close last tier
lofty depot
No one wanted to do cringe trinket tech
normal pilot
nah that's not even close
jaunty blaze
Ye maybe because it was cringe
drifting nova
i've had nothing to do for days and can't really think of anything that needs te...
test beta, gib feedback that'l be read concisely and thoroughly
normal pilot
i guess if you're really really bored you can re-check smolder interaction with mastery & eclipse
drifting nova
whens the server getting shut down
normal pilot
umbral embrace too
lucid olive
yeah i'll get on it after reclear
have a feeling the UE bug is still there but it's probably been ages since it was checked
normal pilot
hm they removed all whitelists on new-smolder
i guess all you have to test is if eclipse affects it and if it still double dips
lucid olive
the UE bug was UE Wrath only benefitting from the Nature part of mastery even if it's Astral dmg right
exotic storm
not having full moon for FoE on single target does make me have an empty keybind lol
drifting nova
but its nature?
lucid olive
shouldn't be too hard to check just need to do math
normal pilot
i think ue might've been fixed? or maybe it was fixed then borken again
lucid olive
no clue, i don't think anyone has actually checked it in forever
think I marked UE as untested in the sheet?
and crossed out the old bug explanation
normal pilot
it 'should' get affected by opposite ecl & mastery but otoh it not getting affected is in-line with their game design too
lofty depot
We're working on sims, locken
nimble tangle
shouldn't be too hard to check just need to do math
sir this is wendy's
drifting nova
only one math? shame
serene rune
I want to start playing as druid. What can you guys recommend me... any guide ?
thank you
jaunty blaze
Wowhead
pseudo maple
Hi, is it normal that balance is doing tank damage on prepatch?
jaunty blaze
Yes
pseudo merlin
@drifting nova is there a way to indipendently have your crewmates operate cannons?
pseudo merlin
nah thats not what i mean
The way you tell them what to attack is left click
which means once you tell them to attack a target on starboard
and you go portside
drifting nova
🤔
pseudo merlin
they will try to attack the target on your wrong side
because youre clicking it to attack for yourself
drifting nova
I'm not drunk enough for this
pseudo merlin
if you havent sailed just say so but there's no way its designed this poorly right
drifting nova
idk what you're describing but yes
1 on cannon, you range and 2nd on helm
you rotate the boat to maintain broadside
of the mob
pseudo merlin
I want to attack the mob in the green circle
drifting nova
ok, rotate the boat
drifting nova
you can spin on the anchor
they get sent to ONE cannon
that can only first ONE way
pseudo merlin
read what im saying
pseudo merlin
please read what im saying
ITs like
I tell you "you go right, I go left"
And then the moment I go left, you follow me left
that's how this fucking idiotic system works?
pseudo merlin
you're actually just not reading
drifting nova
they cant bend the cannon round the boat
pseudo merlin
this is incredible
drifting nova
in that one fiml
pseudo merlin
everything you're assuming is wrong
How do you get your guy to attack something
what do you do
drifting nova
either click the guy and instruct to poisiton
or I think in the boat tab you can do it that way but idk
pseudo merlin
you just left click your target
drifting nova
yes
pseudo merlin
Stop repeating the obvious like I'm dumb
drifting nova
you just attack
pseudo merlin
there's 2 cannons
drifting nova
yes
pseudo merlin
what are you talking about
drifting nova
you're taking the cannon you instructed him to use
pseudo merlin
what
drifting nova
oh brotherman
pseudo merlin
I give up you're either ragebaiting or genuinely stupid
drifting nova
remember when I said you dont use the cannon
pseudo merlin
look what's happening here
my guy is fighting the ray on the right
the moment I click the ray on the left TO ATTACK IT MYSELF
drifting nova
ok
pseudo merlin
he stops attacking
drifting nova
yeah because he cant
think of the crewmates like pets in wow
pets attack what you attack
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
horrible analogy
drifting nova
they literally do
drifting nova
which is what you attack
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
This has to be ragebait
fossil hemlock
pets dont attack what you attack btw
This is quite literally the default pet behaviour
pseudo merlin
You have the option to set your pet on assist
drifting nova
the same target
fossil hemlock
You have the option to set your pet on assist
This is the default setting
pseudo merlin
Just answer the fucking question
Can we each attack a different target yes or no
On the same side
pseudo merlin
Why?
Because ranged attack + crew cannon is literally weaker than me on cannon
So you want to both utilise a seperate cannon
pseudo merlin
IT is though
drifting nova
you attack the same mob
pseudo merlin
It literally is
Im stronger in a cannon than the combination of crewmate+me with fast ranged weapon
Maybe this changes with higher level personnel
drifting nova
are you like 10range
drifting nova
then nothing beats blowpipe
pseudo merlin
your ranged level plays no role in your dmg on boat, you inheret boat stats
thats why it sucks ass
I just want to have 2 manned cannons
I'm on 1 side, they're on the other
drifting nova
you can
pseudo merlin
you literally can not
drifting nova
precisely why I said later on people could position the boat
in such a way
both sides fired forwards
but its janky
was used for the higher tier mobs
pseudo merlin
that sounds like super not intentional
because it seems like there's a pretty clear dividing line for lateral range straight through the middlef
pseudo merlin
lmao ok i see
drifting nova
should they be able to fire behind and in front?
no
but they can so
yes combat is jank
no summer wont fix it
pseudo merlin
did they say what they are going to fix about the combat though
drifting nova
not really
pseudo merlin
the crew controls being like this and not allowing you to individually attack targets is the only thing I can think of
everything else feels fine so far
like whats the point in having 1 crew member on each side
if only one of them can attack
pseudo merlin
unless you do this jank shit
which surely isnt intended
also the anchor does literally nothing, you can rotate the boat without it
?
pseudo merlin
so whats it actually used for then
pseudo merlin
interesting
minor anchor
Guys if you spam open and close your talent window while changing talents something very interesting happens
lucid olive
where the talent buttons are shuffled to the right and are perma showing or
minor anchor
The white effect to indicate which talents are being changed
are stacking up glowing brighter and brighter
so when ur talents are vastly diff
It giga ramps
Full moon is BACK
jaunty blaze
minor anchor
Imma mix it
craggy sonnet
The only thing u might've gained was bolt damage and a free wrath
you also keep your dryad (idk if that is affected by CA at all)
doesnt do a lot of dmg either right now, but its something
craggy sonnet
the UE bug was UE Wrath only benefitting from the Nature part of mastery even if...
i just tested it and it seems to get affected by both
hitting normal wraths for like 3.4k in solar and ~8.4k with UE @ 44% mastery
lofty depot
you also keep your dryad (idk if that is affected by CA at all)
doesnt do a lot ...
Yrue
lucid olive
hitting normal wraths for like 3.4k in solar and ~8.4k with UE @ 44% mastery
what about UE Wrath in Lunar
craggy sonnet
hitting for ~5.2k with UE and ~1.8k without in lunar
hmm .. does that check out?
its just x1.75via UE and x1.44 via lunar mastery, no?
oh, the eclipse bonus itself .. duh
minor anchor
in lunar wrath has no bonus, ye?
craggy sonnet
x1.15 via eclipse bonus to arcane
minor anchor
im wrong
lofty depot
Increases arcane damage, UE makes that wrath do astral
minor anchor
yeye it has the inherent arcane dmg
craggy sonnet
works
lucid olive
yeah should get full bonus from mastery + lunar bonus for the arcane part of UE
lofty depot
So it's like 15% inc from said ecl
craggy sonnet
ye
numbers check out
UE value is probably not even that bad right now if you are playing rattle, right?
minor anchor
I kinda like UE in M+ its a big dopamine hit landing the giga astral nuke Starfire, no clue if it deals dmg
craggy sonnet
but probably goes down quite a bit with weaver
lucid olive
think it's good anyway
you can also line up so you spend UE on the instant cast generator in BOAT
craggy sonnet
dont tell me its good anyway .. didnt you say its beans 💀
lucid olive
since you can proc UE outside of Eclipse but only spend inside
craggy sonnet
but yeah, its another thing you can fish for before entering eclipse
lucid olive
idk its like
minor anchor
hmm
lucid olive
either you take 2 points total eclipse or you spend them on UE + another talent
or you take 1 point in total eclilpse and spend point on UE
craggy sonnet
ye
lucid olive
man devourer is a fun spec right
craggy sonnet
actually a lot to play around with in terms of eclipse conditions
minor anchor
Ye feels good, actually skilful gameplay
quiet drift
Surely UE wont be good in M+ when youre only in eclipse for 60% of the time
lucid olive
Surely UE wont be good in M+ when youre only in eclipse for 60% of the time
idk, can be valuable on AoE spending the instant Starfire on opener on a UE proc and proccing Smolder off it no?
craggy sonnet
but i'll be unlucky and not crit
lucid olive
i guess wrath and starfire do low dmg anyway
lucid olive
shouldn't be hard to fish a proc outside of Eclipse unless you're chaining Eclipse casts
you'll have to Wrath to gen AP for your next Eclipse anyway and 1/5 casts are bound to be UE procs unless you low roll right
minor anchor
Do shooting Stars have a set ppm or do they go up with dot tick rate?
craggy sonnet
go up at a diminishing rate
minor anchor
ok cool
lucid olive
diminishing with target count that is
minor anchor
Well cosmic rapidity has line in it about that. But i was wondering about haste scaling tbh
lucid olive
Talent Entry : Balance [tree=spec, row=2, col=3, max_rank=1, req_points=0]
Class : Druid
School : Physical
Spell Type : None
Labels : 16: Class Spells
: 21: Druid Spells
: 292
Affecting Spells : Starfall (191034 effect#2), Circle of Life and Death (338657 effect#1), Solstice (343648 effect#1), Cosmic Rapidity (400059 effect#1), Circle of Life and Death (400320 effects: #1, #3), Liveliness (426702 effect#1)
Family Flags : 124
Attributes : Passive (6), Not In Spellbook (143), Spell Haste Affects Periodic (173), Do Not Log on Learn (355)
Effects :
#1 (id=298290) : Apply Aura (6) | Periodic Dummy (226): every 2 seconds
Base Value: 17 | Scaled Value: 17 | Target: Self (1)
Modified By: Solstice (343648 effect#1)
Description : Moonfire and Sunfire damage over time has a chance to call down a falling star, dealing $202497s1 Astral damage and generating ${$202497m2/10} Astral Power.```it has "spell haste affects periodic" tag
I think @normal pilot knows the answer better
normal pilot
wha
oh
shooting stars has nothing to do with do tics, it's entirely seperate
which is why when they forget to whitelist it for cosmic rapidity it doesn't tick faster
minor anchor
so its basically just PPM?
normal pilot
no it's 17% * sqrt( targets ) every time it ticks
craggy sonnet
n : # of active moonfire dots
calc expected procs on serverside interval of 2/(1+haste) seconds
x = 0.17 * sqrt(n) * (1 + 2 * buff.solstice.up)
get floor(x) procs guaranteed and compare frac(x) with a random number to determine if that leads to another proc?
thats my latest information on shs
for both moonfire and sunfire i guess
lofty depot
buff.solstice.up lock in
normal pilot
ya there's separate ones for each dot
minor anchor
i fcking hate this vague ass lying wording from Blizzard
normal pilot
flare too when it worked on that
lofty depot
imagine if it was sec left
normal pilot
idk it's a casual game with casual tooltips you kind of know what you're getting into
can't really get mad about it
lucid olive
i am furious 
minor anchor
I deffo can get mad but it is what it is
lofty depot
how u gonna get mad at something u didnt understand 4 seconds ago
lucid olive
where there's a will
minor anchor
Im mad bacause its a hassel to have incomplete/misleading information in the game i like. And when i seek enlightment i need to either datamine or go bother people here
lofty depot
gastank loves being bothered
minor anchor
I would rather just read the spell and have it tell me what it does truthfully
lofty depot
its actually better when u dont know exactly what something does
normal pilot
sadly this isn't hte game made for players like you
minor anchor
perhaps
lucid olive
should start frequenting the simc/spelldatadump repo if you wanna know what spells do
and if you dont learn it from there then go to a dummy for a couple hours and you'll figure it out
drifting nova
much easier to assume blizzard doesnt know waht spells do either
minor anchor
Its only in times like these, prepatch where there is little to no content worth fighting / preparing to fight it where i attempt little bit of technical min maxing
drifting nova
where it matters the least?
minor anchor
Well the mechanics wont change, so gaining that knowledge is permament buff
Doing anything else is better, but there is nothing else rn
lucid olive
logging off is a good option
drifting nova
the question then becomes
lofty depot
Its only in times like these, prepatch where there is little to no content worth...
u could do that during the first few weeks of a patch where minmaxing cds and apl u could do that
drifting nova
do you log back on
lofty depot
we ended up changing that multiple times in that 2 week period
stone cairn
lofty depot
12+ months aware
have u considered logging out
minor anchor
Yes of course, i do other stuff but like this time just makes sense for me to deep dive the changes and rev the engine up
lofty depot
u gonna rev up some sims 👀
minor anchor
I highly admire and appreciate people who do work in sims and APL's for I benefit from their work
i WILL be simming my character on a premium account
nimble tangle
sims APL ready?
nimble tangle
lofty depot
get to writing bucko
delicate perch
Log out time
lucid olive
just get claude to edit the druid module
craggy sonnet
should let claude try to untangle the current conditions in the s3 apl
pseudo merlin
just found a guy randomly chilling in the middle of the ocean
he gave me a cocktail
delicate perch
surely a simpsons fan
plucky valley
<@501958035019661322> I saw that
potent cargo
looks like some shit lake would post
pseudo merlin
not wrong
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364024180177113208/1421336862903111701/e...
I hate chompy sailing trials
lofty depot
the fuck is going on
this is the peak boredom channel
lofty depot
get the ball to the other side
sour rampart
this is the peak boredom channel
well I founded a new guild this weekend, i wish I had been bored lmao
lofty depot
are they stupid?
stupid and bad at the game yes
lofty depot
well I founded a new guild this weekend, i wish I had been bored lmao
sounds terrible
drifting nova
(the stupid team is winning)
sour rampart
lol
drifting nova
well I founded a new guild this weekend, i wish I had been bored lmao
you recruiting
lofty depot
teams
drifting nova
sub me in when 12 of them dont turn up
@lofty depot help me understand one fundamental part I'm not getting, why are there 2 teams for each team
can they not play a full game
drifting nova
handegg
lofty depot
cuz they get tired
drifting nova
have they tried not?
pseudo merlin
we bringing back handegg?
lofty depot
11 players on the field per team
drifting nova
ONLY AN HOUR
lofty depot
15 minutes yeayea
drifting nova
whats the 3subs under the team name
drifting nova
uwut
lofty depot
then u get offical time outs for reviews or fan on the field shit
drifting nova
na no way
lofty depot
then u get tv timeouts for commercials
lofty depot
at 2minutes left of the quarter theres also a timeout
drifting nova
whos likely to win
lofty depot
the blue team
drifting nova
well they are ahead
lofty depot
betting market had them as 5 point favorite
they also have the best defense in the league
both have good defenses tbf.. figured the game would go under 45
lofty depot
every time they get tackled
lofty depot
the big linemen running at each other
lofty depot
if they went out of bounds
cuz rules
drifting nova
so theres no turn overs
lofty depot
they have 4 plays to get to the yellow line
qb can throw it to the wrong team
or the person can drop the ball and the other team picks it up
craggy sonnet
holy, a completed pass .. didnt think it was gonna happen
drifting nova
if its man marking, does the thrower have to throw in a certain time or
@pseudo merlin thats not allowed wtf
pseudo merlin
???
drifting nova
soup
pseudo merlin
SOUP!?
craggy sonnet
there is always gonna be pressure on the quarterback (thrower) tho
lofty depot
"always"
craggy sonnet
qb can also start running it down himself
pseudo merlin
you scammed soup ye
sorry
craggy sonnet
spaghetti fingers
pseudo merlin
you scammed soup ye
but like
what the fuck do you actually mean
Wait
I got the pet?????
drifting nova
when it registers
I think uber tasks are best soup rates aswell
not that you need that anymore
pseudo merlin
calling a turtle soup
crazy
is this like the worst rates skilling pet or is it just me
drifting nova
1/6k is surprisingly good, depending on distance
to put it into the perspective I'm almost 6k/260k for merc salvage
almost done with it
pseudo merlin
its 1 in 6k - 2850/98 * (lv-1)
drifting nova
its 1 in 6k - 2850/98 * (lv-1)
do NOT look at corp beast
6/hr, 1/5k drop so like 800hours
pseudo merlin
ya i said skilling
pseudo merlin
I got agi pet, soup and golden pheasant egg
drifting nova
not had any skilling pets since release so
didnt know justin timberlake was doing the half time show
lofty depot
its quite literally in ur dms u fuck
lofty depot
well i only play boomie
nimble tangle
lofty depot
silly goose
idk why u would put it in global
what if u want to use different classes silly
lofty depot
what did u import it to
nimble tangle
global? idk
im very dumb here
@vale silo after using your awesome resource bar addon
can i ask for one more favor to add?
lofty depot
ask question > ask to ask question
vagrant cove
ask question > ask to ask question
New meta
lofty depot
so what happens when he responds in 5 hours when ur asleep
then u reply 5 hours after that
ASK THE QUESTION
nimble tangle
drifting nova
@lofty depot they playing against the B team?
drifting nova
sub rey on he'l put a shift in
nimble tangle
@vale silo can you add length alignment function to resource bars against essential bar?
nimble tangle
drifting nova
3rd times the charm
I've so far seen zero physical tackles
is this non contact?
vale silo
<@86505293839613952> can you add length alignment function to resource bars agai...
I've got this via Edit Mode (only Essential, adding more Soon â„¢ )
nimble tangle
ugh can you show me where it is in the edit mode?
i am using chinese version and im dumb
vale silo
Simplified Chinese is one of the locales that has almost 100% localization though! 😄 Yes, I'll get a screenshot in a sec
nimble tangle
ty sir
vale silo
You'll want to find it in Edit Mode and click it -- it will be wherever you have it set to by default and will show all of the bars while in Edit Mode even if you have them disabled during normal play.
Once you click it, check off "Enable for this layout" and choose if you want it above or below from the dropdown, then check the "Match Cooldown Manager Anchor Width" checkbox to make it dynamically match the width of the CDM Essentials icons.
There may be a gap depending on if you have bar switching to match form enabled and e.g. have combo points enabled
nimble tangle
hmmm i did check those
but after exiting edit mode
resource bar no aligning yet
vale silo
It looks aligned to me in that screenshot. It only is matching the width and anchoring above or below
nimble tangle
nimble tangle
oki
lofty depot
silly goose
vale silo
I have BCDM and CDM Centered, which messes with borders. It is aligned for me (massive zoom in in Paint .NET). Probably fuzzy edges in the default UI
nimble tangle
nimble tangle
south wing
Where is the best place to looks at UI/mod ideas (even better if it can be specifically for balance)? I'm newly back to the game after a long absence and there is just so much to keep track of now. I'm struggling a bit to organize all the important stuff on my screen in a while i'm comfortable with.
lofty depot
wowhead
south wing
i've been on wowhead a fair bit lately, i'm using a build from there, but i'm not really seeing the UI area. Or are you just talking about their guide for addons?
lofty depot
delicate perch
me when I lie
lofty depot
there arent addons on it just the cdm and edit mode strings
dreamgrove will have one soon tm
but nonetheless waiting
delicate perch
dreamgrove ded bigwowhead bought him out
south wing
somehow i'm just not seeing this anywhere
delicate perch
idk what ur looking at
at discord
drifting nova
idk what ur looking at
at what you are slapping into the online app
south wing
idk what ur looking at
just the main page of wow head
lofty depot
ok
south wing
but thank you for the link, i'll read that over
south wing
ah, gotcha, i was expecting it to be its own section
lofty depot
well it is its own section
for each spec and each class
and then all the other random shit thats noted
ur on the main page, which means its all just news and other bullshit
south wing
yep, i was just thinking about it wrong. figured it would be its own section with everyone included and then you'd filter down from there.
anyway, thanks again!
loud kettle
https://tenor.com/view/plainchat-toxic-mr-krabs-gif-5607672382227202635
we got to 2 ?
when did that happen
loud kettle
guhguh
gusty egret
anyone have a half decent pre-patch m+ build?
tacit oriole
anyone have a half decent pre-patch m+ build?
Wowhead
spare dune
As a Shadow Priest main I’ve been trying Balance and it’s pretty good! My biggest challenge has been not realising when I’m out of eclipse during the heat of combat
spare dune
Using the standard blizz tracker atm, I just need to pay more attention
nimble tangle
i think i am confused here
as for EC spec, do we always starfall in ST?
even when touch the cosmos proc, we still press starfall?
jaunty blaze
Why would you
hasty ermine
I guess He meant starfire
round field
No
nimble tangle
i do mean starfall
round field
Why would he be talking about cosmos then
hasty ermine
True, misread it
nimble tangle
so during single target/boss fights, if touch the cosmos proc, press starsurge?
jaunty blaze
I mean it's a sim question that can't be answered rn but I didn't hear anything about starfalling over surge
round field
^
for normal play probably not
as for cosmos
it just depends if starfall does more dmg than surge
in 1 press
nimble tangle
i can't tell if he surge or starfall when cosmos proc
but looks like he always starfall
during boss fight 454 casts starfall
wait, how does starfall casts count?
crude cargo
need to select it there, otherwise you have the total count of casts instead of just on that boss
vale pebble
wait, how does starfall casts count?
the casts in ur ss are overall, hits are for that boss
ur looking at dmg done to boss not what he has done in that bossfight
nimble tangle
okay I see
So looks like boss fight when cosmos proc, surge
AOE fight when cosmos proc, starfall
crude cargo
i think even in ST you'd starfall because starweaver has a higher chance of getting you a free starsurge (40% vs 20%)
but im not sure
vale pebble
everything is made up
crude cargo
true...
vale pebble
the one thing that is certain
nimble tangle
i think even in ST you'd starfall because starweaver has a higher chance of gett...
This is what I am doing right now in prepatch supposedly shooting star should always be the top damage nothing else matters
vale pebble
is if ur falling st
u dont spend cosmos procs on surge
thats one thing i can promise u
everything else?
made the fuck up nobody knows
crude cargo
thank you chicken man
vale pebble
both are pretty close on beta so u can press anything
nimble tangle
We will see when sims is complete
vale pebble
nope i did not
round field
proof?
round field
thats what i thought
crude cargo
wicked shuttle
i think even in ST you'd starfall because starweaver has a higher chance of gett...
Starfall does less ST damage and costs 20% more AP. I don’t have sims, but this is incredibly unlikely
Starfall would have to actually do more damage
crude cargo
i meant using cosmos procs on starfall
wicked shuttle
Oh cosmos specifically
Yeah I mean surge + stellar amp is probably better, but yeah it’s more a sim question
crude cargo
chicken lied to us . . . 🥀
crude cargo
ong
craggy sonnet
Yeah I mean surge + stellar amp is probably better, but yeah it’s more a sim que...
well, how likely are you to be dropping stellar amp just cause you starfall cosmos procs
craggy sonnet
?
wicked shuttle
well, how likely are you to be dropping stellar amp just cause you starfall cosm...
Probably still unlikely?
I guess you probably still have 100% amp uptime even without the proc
I’d suspect the difference between the two can’t even be that high regardless
Probably talking .2% or something
craggy sonnet
ye, and if you are playing stellar amp, then starfall is not that far behind probably while its up
craggy sonnet
(and then its the weird weaver chance etc)
lucid olive
i want to sim my character!!
wicked shuttle
Just useless info the robot will give you xd
Would do more damage wrathing 1 singular more time
craggy sonnet
idk, wouldnt try to predict the actual diff
wicked shuttle
We’re talking about cosmos
And damage difference of free spenders
It’s more like people kinda fixate on the wrong kinda stuff
Was mostly the point
lucid olive
there are people pretending that full moon is playable
can't wait to get sims so people go back to "omg illusion of choice there is never a choice i always take the best simming talents"
craggy sonnet
sandbag moon in sims smh
lucid olive
moons are easy just press the button
lucid olive
gg
i think if you take Lunation with Moons you end up with so many Moons it's hard to really be wrong when to use it
craggy sonnet
nah, i aint cancelling .. press button, start rubbing hands - its gonna be either me or them
lucid olive
as long as you don't chain full moons outside of eclipse and don't overcap AP there shouldn't be more to it
wicked shuttle
I’m talking about getting the moon casts off is the hard part
lucid olive
yeah welcome to ranged
wicked shuttle
Yep
lucid olive
i think the hardest part of Moons is planning good usage of it
wicked shuttle
Idk if yall are the same way, but if I cancel a cast once Idrc. If I cancel a cast twice it’s completely over
lucid olive
canceling a cast is fine, but stubbornly continuing a cast into a "lol you're silenced cause you didn't cancel" mechanic
now that's where my jimmies get rustled
esp now that i don't have my "stop casting" clanker telling me!!!!
wicked shuttle
Locked on astral
lucid olive
Astral Locked
5s
wicked shuttle
I’m bear form
lucid olive
wild charging off platform
pseudo merlin
canceling a cast is fine, but stubbornly continuing a cast into a "lol you're si...
I got locked so many times in windrunner's spire by the chickens
I can't get used to my new castbars, they're just white noise to me
round field
Those are the spirits of all the wives youve beaten in the past
pseudo merlin
boreal knot
pseudo merlin
7x luck in a row
lucid olive
yeah this is too easy
pseudo merlin
never lose
lofty depot
I’m talking about getting the moon casts off is the hard part
Aug evoker take
Just cast it silly
twin lotus
lofty depot
Go make the sims work so we can find out
plucky valley
Go make the sims work so we can find out
I’m actually working on the sims now. Lots of bugs to workout but progression is steady and accelerating. I’m also almost done with that weakaura you asked me to make so long ago
plucky valley
What can I say?
chrome lily
What is decent dps on a copied lvl 90 balance druid for beta? I just have the basic 197 gear.
jaunty blaze
at least 2
chrome lily
🤣
jade flume
that should be the most accurate way of checking, i have no idea how much deeps bamkins are doing tbh
lucid olive
that should be the most accurate way of checking, i have no idea how much deeps ...
yeah idk how much deeps i'm doing either cause i cba scrolling down the meter
jade flume
man, im doing orb on dimmy
which does 30% of my dam
i still didnt see myself on the meets
thats a gg of the highest orda
lucid olive
you can find me comfortably above the shitter alts that have 30 less ilvl than me
lofty depot
Why r we logged in
jade flume
$
man, i saved all my cds on nexus kong for dps amp
was my time to shine
we skipped it
jade flume
pretty much
quiet drift
we skipped it
classic
meager storm
erm shouldnt this be 30% and 25% 
true viper
drifting nova
erm shouldnt this be 30% and 25% <:Smile:1435209354432348233>
add em together buddy
lofty depot
erm shouldnt this be 30% and 25% <:Smile:1435209354432348233>
They said no fuck u
crude cobalt
is the 6% aura buff and the wrath starfire buff new they added this week or something they already did on beta and just adding to the release notes?
lofty depot
All of those changes were on beta
spice roost
erm shouldnt this be 30% and 25% <:Smile:1435209354432348233>
why would they change that
its already mid after these changes right
lofty depot
What's mid
lofty depot
How do u know where the middle is
spice roost
i m assuming and asking only
i repeat
lofty depot
Ok .. how do we know where the middle is lol
spice roost
i dont thats why im asking
lofty depot
(no one knows where the middle is)
lucid olive
its between two points
lofty depot
Ok so where's the bottom
lucid olive
where it says garyeet
lofty depot
That's crazy
final basin
@lucid olive Couldn't find it mentioned on wowhead which addons you got here. Unhalted unit frames? bettercooldownmanager? Sensei? I took the lazy road with elvui but looking to swap off from it and liked the visual look of yours
lucid olive
that was with Unhalted and BCDM, but I went over to ElvUI when their update came out
final basin
so that's with BCDM and sensei still yeah?
final basin
Alright cheers!
sudden pawn
erm shouldnt this be 30% and 25% <:Smile:1435209354432348233>
Denizens is right haha math, goldrin wrong
Goldrin be 30 tmro
lofty depot
40-15 == 19
lofty depot
I suppose
We're adding buffs then adding nerfs
Just assumed it was written was "rolling back" the buff
Rather than the new number, but funny blue post
sudden pawn
Atleast goldrin is incorrect, it’ll be 30
Well actusually it’s 31
But rounded down
lofty depot
Maybe we'll get lucky and then add 11% and the number will be 32% 🙂
lofty depot
Lol why
eager raft
Roster boss got hands
sudden pawn
Maybe we'll get lucky and then add 11% and the number will be 32% 🙂
It’s a long down time maybe you’ll just log in to moonbin deleted
lofty depot
Hopefulyl
nimble tangle
??? Patch got buff numbers wrong ?
lofty depot
Roster boss got hands
My guild is r200 with no splits
sudden pawn
??? Patch got buff numbers wrong ?
Just goldrin
eager raft
My guild is r200 with no splits
Mine isn’t
lofty depot
Yea ik, that was the point lol
lofty depot
Nah, I'm trying to beat gamz next season
lucid olive
i believe in you
lofty depot
void jacinth
Nah, I'm trying to beat gamz next season
he'll be on your heels every step of the way but in the end you can beat him off
nimble tangle
Just goldrin
Oki…I’m KOTG noob, as long as EC correct I’m good
tulip oriole
is there an automatic reset on starlord when you press eclipse ?
nimble tangle
It's mostly raid vs m+
I’m raid noob
sudden marsh
can i throw out starlord duration in my CDM or am i scuffing myself? I dont know but it feels kinda useless information? 
lucid olive
yeah it doesnt matter that much
sudden marsh
yeah it doesnt matter that much
drifting nova
he'll be on your heels every step of the way but in the end you can beat him off
PHRASING
lofty depot
<:ThankYou:971188496037453884>
What's the over/under on u tracking. Wrath, Starfire, surge, or starfall
Set the total at 3
pallid bay
all u need..
lofty depot
Where's cosmos and weaver
lofty depot
Why r u icons curved
pallid bay
im on beta
lofty depot
Okok
crude cargo
its good
lofty depot
Stupid game
crude cargo
good enough to make ppl pay 5box for it
pallid bay
yeah i havnt bothered with pandemic
crude cargo
eager raft
@pallid bay can’t wait for O I UI to be ready
fossil shard
kinda stinky
+1
pallid bay
its really not