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its also less uptime compared to your average 1min fight you get right now in prepatch
Hii I wanted to ask something! So I just returned after a few months.. I feel like I am doing so bad at my rotation now and idk how to incorporate the new button that triggers the eclipse. I wanted to ask for add ons that help you guys, or videos/channels you like watching. thank you so much
putting it on cdm
press it
with full asp?
I try to use all the cd's but I feel like my dmg just sucks. did the spec get so "bad" or is it just me?
well the damage might feel lthat way
tuning is bad rn
but its better to understand how to play rather than its damage
use logs n stuff to check if youre playing properly, not details numbers
its prepatch, nothing is balanced
Sorry. how do I do that? Is that a add on too?
thank you! :D I am gonna try to do better with that and focus on my rotation instead of dmg.
but the same ideas still apply
enter eclipse with max or close to max asp
use cds together
you can learn to find your way around logs yourself to see if you can spot your own mistakes, but it's quite a lot of info to digest so as long as you can atleast upload logs you'll be able to link them here and other people can review them for you
Yeah i think that was my problem maybe... I just used it at the beginning of combat :I
that sounds good
show ui
u should be tracking the buff and the button
😭
smh got lucky
i would suggest opening the settings and enabling the cooldown manager
do u like my ui? u can have it too
no
hahahah
its options > gameplay enhancements > enable cooldown amanger
That's a "I'm brand new to wow but what is this edit mode button?" UI
: (
starenfieeren or w.e.
Wait till I hit u with the Konvokation der geister
Eins Hier kommt die sonne
Zwei hier kommt die sonne
Drei sie ist der hellste stern von allen
Vier hier kommt die sonne
🎶
what did you just call it
theres like 50 countries in europe and u all might have been speaking 1 language if it wasnt for america
so id chill the fuck out lil gup
curious u have w as an ability
fuggn league players
but i dont have buttons over 5
and u can macro ur trinket to CA
I have long fingers
germany goated, I'd be down
wait why is W bound
yeah on like F5
I move with mouse and use the buttons for abilities
its a league thing for sure
I can't bad mouth mouse moving
by "i move with mouse".... do u mean click to move
it's superior
orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
i do it
yea
yeah thats good
but i still have w bound
yeah
w goated
you gotta be able to play iwth 1 hand innit
how are you going to eat otherwise
Sometimes I click the abilities with mouse too bc I have my arm in the pringles can
....
Empty the pringles can onto a plate
And eat with your mouth while both hands on keyboard/mouse
like with my head on the desk?
yes
i might roll again
if you can do so without breaking eye contact with the monitor
Sir your AP bar is not aligned with your essential bar
its not the same length
it is however aligned
also to be clear... i dont like shit moving
They are not aligned, just not aligned 
yea he really needs to fix his ui ngl
rolls d20
i would suggest working on ur own ui because mine u can actually see abilties/buffs
that was worded very nice and gently for a 13
im a very nice person
whos working on an asp bar

bro cant count anymore
5e
fair
I wish sensei resource bar has threshold lines
get twintop

how come when I pop eclipse I lose my stacks of starlord? Is that intended? Can't find it anywhere in the talent tree post changes
it was in the initial post in alpha too
ohhhh tyty
that doesnt fit my narrative
hey guys sorry if youve been asked this a million times, couldn't find an answer, is there any beta builds to go off of with the new updates to boomy ?
there are some prepatch builds on wowhead
Hows boomy feeling compared to tww?
might play weaver instead of rattle, outside of that... rotation is roughly the same
getting into eclipse easier
im on the beta is it different?
well u add the hero talents and apex talents
these builds are just something to play... we dont have sims to say what is correct
braindead spec go brr
Just came back to the game
did heroic Manaforge, and was doing jokes levels of dps, are we in the trash currently?
or am I ass
Our pre-patch dam is pretty bad
does it actually or
both can be true
so bcdm still better than blizzard cdm kek
well 1. u dont need that and 2. there other addons for that

Does bcdm work with cdm centered?
Ty for the information @abstract parrot
w
hey guys
sorry for asking a question that may have been asked before
after a 2 year hiatus from wow i wanna get back in to it for Midnight
was setting up my UI yesterday night and couldn't get my eclipse to show in my elvui aura bars or anything and WA doesn't work
any solutions for this ?
reading this makes me sad
just asking a question to other fellow balances but noted i guess ...
your best bet
is to use the inbuilt cooldown manager
which is a buff tracking feature and can make ur eclipses into aura bars or some shit
okay thanks !
seeing you said this, is this a general issue for most people ?
well ye
they nuked addons
but its fine they released the xpac without any crunching while keeping up to standards with the quality
no sacrifices made
faster than usual even
sacrificednmate
yeah, if you just make shit up after rolling you might as well scrap it all together.
dont get baited by a pfp .. not even a slur in a 13 smh
are we doing tank dps in prepatch live now?
yes
If not less 🤣
are we looking better in beta or nah
we are tank dps? thats so sad
only if noob :/
areu say that becaus noob?
self report among us impostor?
he vented!
Maybe? 🙂

Different scale when the person is a casual
you are blasting leafs all the time
Leaf just means new to discord
so true
but you are mean to kekkers too...
That is required by law
wheres your leaf bub
Someone plucked it many moons ago
Kekkers has a different scale
Is this one of the dumbest signs ever made or
Just a little reminder
Let's take the universal sign for "forbidden to take pictures"
And have it mean "careful, people steal shit here"

real
Yea ur going to jail pal
person who made that just copy pasted a different sign and was like cba finding a new picture a camera is valuable surely
They're gonna put a phone there so u can't call anyone while at the airport
lmao
Atleast they didn't use a bag of fries and a milkshake with a stripe going through it to indicate "please don't disturb the tortoise breeding grounds"
is it worth using the hotw wild growth after buffs on tuesday or do we just default to the bear form hotw version sitill
for defensive
more so wondering for midnight
Why ponder about midnight before midnight is released 
im just wondering if the healing is worth
they are doing inherently different things
Hey, is Goldrin not showing at all on blizz dmg meters?
literally nothing is showing on the blizz damage meters
they are dog
you could count your abilities damage better than they can
I mean depends on the situation. Bear form + 30% HP is the most powerful defensive cuz ur likely just never gonna die
But maybe we're running down Sylvanus platforms and u want to help healer lol
so for myself just use the bear form one
Well no knows where or what ur using ur defensives for. So there could be times where u don't need the massive survivability but rather just need to be above 70% health to live something.
And the bear + hotw and still takes a global to shift. So both are annoying
ya i hate the shift part
Friction
call me a slur
I am waiting
Silly clanker
:0
Blud thinks I saw pfp and became soft
I am gonna have to do some breath work now to find my inner middle again

I want one too
heckin gif makes me sick
Get the myth clip out..... No sir wrong slur try again
do u have a dice for that too?
No
i am too nice. guess you gotta wait for arctic to roll even higher to overcome his inner softy
The last time we called a German a slur things went south really fast
I wont start stuff
i hope so .. would want you to stay true to your username
hahahaha
Rolled d6 for defensive..
Then rolled both for d20.... I was 2 off. Life's hard
Still got the side effect of being condescending tho
But that's the discord demon buff
discord demon buff is something I never want to read again
i got goosebumps
Oh look a socially awkward nerd that can’t give a straight answer without being condescending.
i didnt do anything when iqni called me a pisslow pig
How do u refute what u are
That's like if I'd be angry if someone called me by my name

Paladin clearly not his last name
Is it a dress or a kilt
how tf do u manage to get banned in a class discord
chills
LOL
That's what you get for joining just to troll
Yea I'm adding a hunter debuff
-Hunters, - roll 1 d10, "Face Roll" debuff (rolls for each finger he doesn't use to play the class)

@lofty depot u prepared for the dark portal?
I'm not a classic enjoyer
yes
Ty
Oh I was just talking about new exp
If you're rich, 22 days left until midnight.
If you aren't, you have however many days there are until March 2nd or smth
Poor students LMAO amirite
Well she's rich cuz she knows how long away it is
That doesnt have any relevance..
Yeshuh
real
they should remove gold from the game and make the game free also
so rich people can't ruin it
True
Should only be allowed to have early access if you can spend 20hr a day on gaming
It's curious they said 3 days, but gave 4 again
Free tendies? Fuck that. Grind that gold.
Or better
1mil valor stones
Only unlockable if you play 8 hours a day
2 years consecutive
can... or will... ?
Can
Kinda ironic that the people able to afford EA are the ones that dont have a lot of time to play it
They're the real poor people
Hate the rich
Wageslaves
Truu
Wage cuckies LMAO
Need more time to do ?? W.e. the fuck delve
they said at least 3 days
Who
Weak attempt
my 55 almost 56 paladin is ready

i saw the pins, but what exactly do all these changes mean in final numbers?
Nerf
wait the 2 nerfs are worse then all teh buffs?
no
"no"
They moved damage off of ur periodic damage and on to your actual spells.
The last set of changes being not beneficial for ST, does not mean the aggregated changes are
It's like net neutral, but the denizen nerf isn't neutral
6% aura coming don't worry
6% not enough
Aura gonna be 12% before 3rd raid comes out

It would be rlly funny if they do major tuning between all the mythic raids
I mean I assume they will lol
1 pass, thats all
Hello! New player on retail here, but played few years on wotlk/cata server (just to give context on my knowledge regarding retail/nowadays boomie). Any good guide/videos/youtuber/streamers to recomend watching to learn some gameplay?
u can read the wowhead "guide" but nothing is really up to date with guides or videos..
Also (this might applies also in general I guess) should I mainly have 3 specs and learn how to play those? Single target, aoe and more of a "cleave/2 target" build or just st and aoe is fine?
depends what ur doing
I read the pin (thanks to your username!) and yeah sadly I saw no compendium until midnight 🙁
ima hazard a guess 90% of the raids are st..as they always are
if ur just going through normal and heroic i can play w.e. talents u want and do the content
M+ builds are sometimes different to raid
but in raid u can change ur spec based on the fight
noi
yes
aoe can be done with either
they wont make an aoe kotg build or a st elune build function
m+ was notably EC for a while
and raid was usually keeper
but there were fights in raid where we played keeper and spammed starfall
they cookie cut themselves with hero talents..again
Well since I am kind of a "slow" learner in the sense that I need to practice things for a while
Should I focus on one more then the other?
Because I will do m+
ec
sure
But if I get a chance to raid would be nice, but I'm too new to retail to apply to any guild for the moment xd
theres plenty of m+ers that do mythic raid and played EC for first 3 or 4
u can play convoke with ec
ec is far more boring spamming starfire
ec is much more fun
But all the build I see with EC use incarn instead

ur likely not playing content where ur talent choices actually matter currently
I am also still debating what I'm gonna main, looking at the general tierlists I might have to try out mage xd
Fair enough
tierlists are fake
Based
so can we push for EC raid build now
no
u couldve played EC in raid all last tier
probably wouldnt have been fun for u.... but couldve nonetheless
i played afflock all last tier
swaping from lock to boomkin then asking for ec raid build
the mental illness is crazy
no
lock opinion, ignored
You summon also faires and shit 😄
we havent been dropping moons on people in multiple tiers
funny animation was bugged
wake me up when moon is playable in dungeons
have it apply a dot when dropping
tada
its playable
does it still do reduced damage on multiple targets
something I thought was a giga lie
bc why would a moon do reduced aoe
Prob
tooltip for full moon literally says "deals reduced damage to secondary targets"
Moons would feel a little less bad to play now since u have can more easily line it up with eclipse or ca and whirling doesn't reduce the time of ca anymore so u have more time to do shit in ur cd
what it literally says and what it should do are 2 different things, who reads tooltips


and it hasnt always
Who talents moons to read the tooltip
should i read the tooltip everytime i press an ability?
Bfa
7.1
about the last time you used it anyway
160 ilevel - full moon doing 45k dmg on kelpfist
Is that a lot
starsurge is doing 20k crits
dayum
with incarn
Any mor modifiers u want to add or
nope
No trees? No harmony? Not first 3 surges in incarn?
i can't wait to get sims so we can leave the talk about full moon behind
Ya the wowhead guide writer should get on that huh gamz
but but buut....MOON
but what if sims indicate moon is actually good
what if they dont
Down with big sim
2 of those are balance things not hero talent related
Says the one that Sims flare, weaver, moons every tier
holy 45k bomba
UE Wrath crits for the same amount
While taking 1/4 of the castime, and possibly giving you a free spender + solstice
UE kinda annoys me since it only consumes in Eclipse
feel like I'm eating procs whenever it procs outside of Eclipse
ye prolly value drops once boss fights are longer than 2min
Starweaver can be annoying as well
proccing a free Starfall outside of Eclipse but you don't really want to spend it on your first 3 globals in Eclipse
and pressing it outside of Eclipse gives 3 seconds of Solstice that you'll overwrite if you enter Eclipse
Ya I've found that very annoying on prepatch
I wish it was like a timed stacking charge but that might be to good
that is assuming apex, yeah?
Ye
Overwriting with eclipse just needs to be “fixed”. It’s been reported for a while
Although I guess maybe they view it as a feature 
Does Eclipse now consume Starlord when you press it? i'm noticing the three stacks of buff go away when i press it - but can't seem to find a talent or skill that mentions it I haz big dum
Read the starlord tooltip
read Starlord tooltip
Slow
wawaweewah
love me some of these features especially considering their stated philosophy
hi all, to understand the new rotation for balance, it can be wise to use the "one button" just for see what rotation is suggested? like a sort of hekili (obv usin the keybinds or there is the GCD penality)
no
so since on compendium I don't see any suggestion where I should check?
horrid response, terrible, super toxic
regularly toxic hence the roll
i could turn the heat up
i have contact with paper again
i can learn the way of the slur
really, where
hes currently on a binge of using the word bridge as a verb
for example, he could say; Kekkers, you should Bridge
poor guy
oh he's a fan of pewdiepie?
idk what bridge means

i drive on them omw to work
Start rolling

Did u use hekili during tww?
Cuz I'm gonna run some questions down for u so u understand something
btw if he answers, he gets torched
he might have uninstalled wow

ayo winter olympics on
i like watching curling
well it was on
almost thought there was a universe where milano isnt milan
and its like nebraska
is nebraska cold?
sounds cold
lol not enough places to do events, so its in cortina too
yes
its nice right now
40 and some wind
we chillin
usually its like 0 and -30 windchill
triple land locked 🙂
Theres like 4
ok ohio
I have more cities than you
ohio doesnt exist
You have 1/4th of the amount of people in your state than me bro
90% of nebraska is corn and cows, wcyd
80% of Misthalin is corn wcyd
You have 1/6th my population sorry for giving extra credit
if 80% corn.. then state smol
Nebraska has 2billion people?????
or people lazy
crazy
tbc down aaaa
This
what now
My family just sold off 200 acres
wtf is an acre
lol thats corn bushel number
40% of a hectare
4000 kvadratmeter
thanks
I didnt know what a furlong was until my first job..now I know what that useless information is
@drifting nova where do I slayer bats
east legends guild
in the cave
up a lil
ah
thx
k
2B? Bruh, USA population is only 342M
Clearly not

You saying Soma's staticstics are fake?
ohio maths
OH HEEE YO
canifis slayer master sucks ass
what do I do for points @drifting nova
Im spending 80% of my time traveling to fremmenik slayer dungeon on these tasks
canifis is goated
did u get lost or
could use npc contact
ye dont have

not the quests
you need jesus
yeah my herblore is low idk
700k over cap

buy what?
herb
ye but i dont like clicking things
yeah like 6 at can, pretty fast, not as fast as bur but I like it
esp with a blocklist
6?
oh points yeah
why is burth better if its 0
just cuz theyre super fast or
but ever since the rebalance few months ago canifis is now nice and not as boring
why is there a 1 infront of your number?
??
?
max level is 2376
im 1551
"2"376
hes rage baiting
How is balance druid pvp so far?
omega giga bis reroll to it asap
I feel like you could be lying
people wouldnt lie to just anybody
theres 12 people that play pvp and none of them are here
i lied @potent cargo theres 1
it's average in pvp
pretty much always going to be somewhat viable because of clone bout it
Okay this might be a really stupid question. I've always played feral so new to toying around with balance and I don't really play any casters. I'm looking through some pvp vendor weapons. The 2H staff and the MH/OH both do haste and versatility. Is there any reason to prefer a 2H or otherwise? Or is it just tmog preference?
tmog pretty much
ty
what if u need to rightclick some totems
holy fwark balance is gonna do some actual damage next week

any believers

you think someone would just go on the internet and lie?
no
after searching some beta logs, i see wild mushrooms being used more
instead of sunseaker mushroom

one more button
wild shrooms was buffed so its better damage
Go by vibes
id rather use sunseaker mushrooms
True copium
ye its crazy
goes from 2 to 3 button spec
thats a whopping 33% increase
!
shrooms is such a shit button
i hated when it was the best thing to play in m+ back in dragonflight
50%…
didnt ask
I provided...
Is there some bug that FoE does double damage?
Had it deal half the damage of this last reclear and havent seen something like this
Or is just boss positioning "rng"
Oh, Light of Elune
why is bro in the 90s for combat stats but has 45 slayer
Just a tip for a beginner plz
In MM+ in order to gain your starlord stacks more efficiently do you 3xstarsurge or starfall the 2 firsts then build up for the 3rd ?
I'm not considering the moment you have a free procs of starsurge /starfall available and you can build up starlord easily
I would not ST when there is aoe to be done for starlord
😮 ? Isn't it core for maximizing dps ?
i wouldnt call it core at all
think of it like a buff you automatically get if you play properly
not the other way around
So it would be : focus on maintaining both dots active on maximum main targets, be in eclise maximum uptime and don't overcap AP, that's it ?
Eclipse uptime aint that important due it being a CD now
Well, you would still want to generally go into eclipse with some banked AP. That lends itself to stacking starlord but is not the only reason for doing so
Dont overcap Eclipses
What iqni meant was that you don't have to warp your gameplay in a weird way (like casting surges natty in aoe) just for starlord
So rule number 1 would be to spread dots effectivelly ?
Do you focus mainly on big targets or even if it takes 10 - 15 sec you spread to all targets in the pack lunar ?
you'd moonfire things that arent going to die instantly and sunfire everything usually
Ok
1 - start spreading moonfire on big targets
2 - when packed sunfire
3 - fury of elune prio target
4 - eclipse or CA depending ( CA / eclipse / eclipse / CA would be normal usage ?) to maintain eclipse state
5 - spend AP on starfall
6 - build AP with starfire while maintaining dots
??
yes sorry my mistake
but yeah thats the gist of it
this specs too complex for me now
dotting should be a bit less valuable now
6 whole dot points??
but you should still dot when grouping ofc
Ok, well i feel i understand basics of the spec but i do like no damage ahah so i gotta work on it somehow
yea you could log into basically any other spec for that dw
the biggest reason for not doing damage is simply not pressing enough spells
pull up a log of yours
go casts -> timeline
look at the gaps
not a sprout...
wrong once again.....
its a sprout tier question
hey folks. was wondering if there's still a soft haste cap for boomies?
"The validation of the token is done by the LUA code in the addon, which means it's very easy to bypass. Game/Shared/General/Functions.lua, make the function ValidateToken() always return true, boom, addon unlocked."
🫃
tbf all the imports are inside the addon
🫃
🫃
we need more dsune tweets
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/chants-eternels/heal?partition=3
Happy to get criticized
There must be a lot (i hope) to change but i'm eager ton ear it 🙂
you need to use dots before sending cds
you are also cancelling alot of casts / having empty moments, if you know you will have to move at some point, try to save some asp in order to spend on the move
and also dont spend asp outside of eclipse/incarn
Im 51 slayer now 
Ok started playing it like a week ago gotta learn and adapt my playstyle ^^
Ur perfect as u are
Huuum well ty but my logs arent telling me this x)
Started raid 136, got to 150 by the end of it
Parses avec %ilvl also ^^
But for sure this char isn't "optimized" in nothing (stats, enchants, gems, ...)
ilvl parses are generally not saying much and especially in prepatch they are irrelevant
the biggest flaws have been pointed out just gotta practice it more its not looking too terrible
but then again noone knows for sure how to play optimally right now so gotta wait a bit until sims are available and it gets more clear
ilv parses are a meme
For sure, as i said, i'm just starting playing it 🙂
I'm asking for advice now cause it will be easier to build muscle memory on good habits than changing it in 2 months cause i've been thinking wrong 🙂
ty for your reviews 🙂
Not a buff
still in the bin
🤡
btw, maybe you guys can help me a bit. I've been reading the talents (for once after 15 years), KotG seems better for leveling or am i tripping?
Spec fantasy for bamkin is being bad, Blizzard wants it that way, stop hoping and go mage or lock
instant regrowths, high usage of treants... i feel this might be useful
id play kotg for leveling yeah
I mean casting wrath probably better than starfire
Can run taunt trees
I usually slammed bear
Just aoe pull everything, make everyone else kill the shit for u
Actually the most alpha move
The pinned buffs aren't a buff ?wdym?
he mains boomkin
poor thing
sure
Did u see the part where there's nerfs
Gamz is a known liar
Actually I should change that cuz..... That includes the first round of changes which were buffs
@drifting nova Duradel is meme without karamja gloves or contact or
fucking travelling to shilo
The most recent changes weren't :/
guys, how much u guys simmin rn
get the gloves bozo
no sims
karamja 4 seems like a monumental task
just to compare
yes there's nothing to compare
karamja 3
there are no sims
tps you to the gem mine in shilo
Moved damage off ur periodic damage and on to actual abilities
oh
Sims don't work
oh shit
hardest is ...killing a mager in fight caves
There's a big red thing at the top
fwiw we have shadow sims
Should probably read it
bamkins are lazy as fuck
Im not allowed to
I just read numbers
And images
ok ok
Said $5 or u won't get it
mage does too

not using voidform is dps neutral for us 🙂
shadowword death in execute range is a dps loss
this xpac is going to be amazing
Maybe they are gonna change psychic link down to 50 and add that damage into shadow form
more like change it to 80 and nuke our ST down to vanilla wow levels
nah tuning is always done at the end when design has reached goals
i doubt they know what they want for some specs still
probably not
In a month they will play rounds of ticktacktoe to decide what they will ship
tic what
@lucid olive me
there's no way you don't know tic tac toe
??
its literally in the game rn
it's the thing I get whenever I see you type
Well it's at 60 so can't go up
is a mint

huh didnt know they are italian
more you know
nah kekkers is ragebaiting
NOUGHTS AND CROSSES?
Is that why they're not tuning feral 🤔
You people are a special kind of special
i feel like kekkers lives in his own world sometimes
sometimes
Naughts and crosses is the correct name ye
he said noughts
not according to the brits ive asked

they never say zero
its like
had to think about that
yeah oh
so weird
didnt neph say he'd stop developing?
why is blud now reuploading it as nephui 2.0 then?
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/nephui

6tyg66666666666666666666
a new addon just dropped for you nerds btw
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/collection-log
goated
game so bad, they need to mimic OSRS for it to become relevant
Hello, everyone, I know that the swing specialization is really the worst right now. However, I'm still trying to play it. But my dps is really low and I don't really understand why knowing that I think I have the right open.
Someone would be willing to help me find out where the gap is.
the swing what
Post a log
Some of the gap is spec being ass
https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QDH9MBWxcbw4Ap7K?type=damage-done&modal=fight-selection&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2 I'm "Slytz" on log
and then dry incarn at 0.29
so basically you dont want to spend asp outside of incarn / eclipse
so you dot > tree > incarn > surges
nowdays with eclipse being a button, you want to build asp before pressing eclipse








