windows key s, choose freeform
#balance
sour rampart
lucid olive
idk i like having hover, spatial and spiral above target frame
lucid olive
and then the 2 dispels and oppressing roar under the player frame
just clears up space so the bottom bar isnt so big
lofty depot
Im a snipping tool purist
yea but u can click the freeform one
dense steeple
In snipping tool?
sour rampart
my eyes couldnt keep track of where you have stuff here
its literally the snipping tool
and you select freeform
lucid olive
my eyes couldnt keep track of where you have stuff here
the only difference is movement stuff over target frame and dispel+oppressing roar bottom right of your health bar
sour rampart
gamz you have to remember im a boomer and one of the reasons im playing dev is so i can actually perform with the reflexes of a corpse
lucid olive
and the trinket below the bottom bar cause you just macro that shit anyway
dense steeple
wth
sour rampart
see im helping soma
yw boomies
ill have you know that dreamgrove is at the top of my "useless class discord" folder on discord
Out of all the things that are useless, I care about y'all the most
lofty depot
having the dh one that high should get u banned from the sane ones
lucid olive
not coloring your folders smh
sour rampart
i only have one folder
lucid olive
gg
sour rampart
having the dh one that high should get u banned from the sane ones
dh is fun,
lucid olive
dh is fun,
paper proc
loud kettle
Out of all the things that are useless, I care about y'all the most
Glad the feral vc is on the list
lofty depot
blud has like 6 wow discords outside of the folder
lofty depot
smh
sour rampart
if I ever stop playing evoker
ill move it into the useless folder
dw
ty all
for your wonderful help
druids > all other classes but evokers
lofty depot
i will not, i have flap
tacit oriole
sturdy apex
hi, actualy boomy is dawg, will it be "normal" in midnight with apexc talent ect ect
isnt fun playing it right now
restive jolt
idk i stopped looking at numbers and am still enjoying it overall
the eclipse change is wierd and awkward but still fun overall for me
normal pilot
all specs will be normal, blizz'll tweak things until they're within 5-10% of other specs
round field
isnt fun playing it right now
If ur not having fun now u probably wont have fun later
The gameplay wont change
wintry furnace
with bdcm is there a setting to show eclipse durations as a bar?
like better than the blizzard style?
nimble tangle
i think u need ArcUI to modify
crude cargo
having the dh one that high should get u banned from the sane ones
wrong and untrue
sudden flame
Is druid back?
delicate perch
yep
sudden flame
I love this class
sudden flame
thats me on feral
sudden flame
its @twin lotus on boomkin 
delicate perch
sudden flame
ngl i didnt know balance was that down bad
delicate perch
ya prepatch kinda cooked us
sudden flame
feral is bad but not boomkin bad
delicate perch
but it's prepatch so log off
twin lotus
wdym, boomie is BOOMing
i LOVE prepatch
but beta doesn't even look that much better
delicate perch
but beta doesn't even look that much better
less haste! 
sudden flame
At least you got what like a 12% buff you just need 10% more to be slightly above average!
twin lotus
112% of 0 still 0
but whatever, at least its worth casting starsurge unlike pyroblast
nimble tangle
show DPS and total damage
Parse is against same class
“Back” is against other meta classes
sudden flame
its in order of damage so you can infer
small crag
maybe a stupid question, but with the changes i am having both starfall and starsurge light up at random times, are we pressing the off-ability (like starsurge in lunar) when it procs like this or just ignore it?
livid jay
you are playing starweaver yes?
small crag
yes i am
jaunty blaze
when both light up its touch of the cosmos though
livid jay
then yes you should press the off abilites to use starweaver and touch of the cosmos procs
small crag
gotcha, ty!
livid jay
cause the free ones still have the starweaver chance of giving you a free use of the other one aswell, they can feed off each other
lofty depot
"off ability like starsurge in lunar"
That's not a thing
U can surge or Starfall in either eclipse
small crag
U can surge or Starfall in either eclipse
I know you technically can, but for sake of explaining, i mean like if you are in a lunar eclipse do the changes mean it is worth pressing the starsurge. I just didnt fully appreciate the star weaver talent, lol
lofty depot
It was likely worth pressing it before the buffs
lucid olive
What does lunar eclipse have to do with anything
lofty depot
U proc solstice when using the free procs. "For the sake of explaining" doesn't matter. You can press either surge/Starfall inside either eclipse as stated
small crag
forget i asked, obviously too dumb a question, like i said
small crag
i wrongly assumed this was the place to come to ask the question about the spec we play. my bad.
lofty depot
U asked a question and got answered, u don't like the answer and or don't understand it.
small crag
U asked a question and got answered, u don't like the answer and or don't unders...
Mahranaka and MikeWestSide were super helpful
jaunty blaze
the question is why do you think it wouldnt be worth to press starsurge in lunar
both spenders profit from either eclipse
lofty depot
They also didn't fully explain it
small crag
the question is why do you think it wouldnt be worth to press starsurge in lunar
probably just old/ simplistic thinking.
lofty depot
Assumption being, u think because ur in lunar u should only be casting Starfall
There's plenty of times, casting surge rather on a prio target is good
There also likely a misunderstanding of what those procs do
small crag
Assumption being, u think because ur in lunar u should only be casting Starfall
should mostly be, since I dont see the benefit of casting the ST nature spell when im doing AOE arcane damage. now i understand
lofty depot
Both because they were buff or rather not played before
jaunty blaze
starsurge isnt nature
lofty depot
Surge isn't a st nature spell
small crag
sorry
jaunty blaze
thats why it doesnt matter what eclipse you are in
but rather target count/situation
jade flume
Do be
craggy sonnet
should mostly be, since I dont see the benefit of casting the ST nature spell wh...
Well, if you were to play elunes chosen hero talents, you would be in lunar all the time, even in ST, so not casting surge there would be detrimental
minor anchor
My personal testing shows that starting to cast Wrath in Eclipse but finishing the cast outside results in no eclipse benefits
Sadge
Has anyone else tested this?
dire osprey
i wrongly assumed this was the place to come to ask the question about the spec ...
dont let it happen again lil pup
lofty depot
My personal testing shows that starting to cast Wrath in Eclipse but finishing t...
Its done that forever
jade flume
Wasnt that always the case
lofty depot
It's calculated at the end of the cast not the start
jade flume
Its calculated on the firings
lofty depot
Yes
dire osprey
My personal testing shows that starting to cast Wrath in Eclipse but finishing t...
wait it used to work like that? 
oh
minor anchor
Im always a bit sceptical / unsure as a Streaking Stars veteran
where it was once based on hitting the target and than changed if memory serves right
jade flume
I never streaked any stars personaly
minor anchor
and also wasnt there a previously a cast speed reduction tied to eclipse?
which did apply
but thats a different case
lofty depot
If ur talking about haste, sure
But it's always been, cast before the buff ends
But ur conflating 2 things
lofty depot
Just cuz u cast something doesn't mean it snapshots buffs
minor anchor
I understand in my head its like "eclipse gives haste and crit, but only haste applies at the start of the cast"
lofty depot
U start casting wrath the cast doesn't finish until u launch the actual spell
If that's how u have to think about it aure
Damage isn't calculated on the start of the cast
crude cargo
i wrongly assumed this was the place to come to ask the question about the spec ...
sorry 🥀
minor anchor
I was just making sure i wasnt stupid about my findings
jade flume
Nah what u said was correct
Buffs are applied on end cast so if u are out of eclipse then, then its gg
lofty depot
What u said was correct, but that is how it's been forever
minor anchor
Actually let me test something...
crude cargo
reset the counter
dire osprey
reset the counter
minor anchor
OK Dreamstate works a bit differently
u can only consume the stack when u finish casting, but not if the buff was applied during the cast
so it must check at the start
lofty depot
Correct it doesn't use a buff if u precast
Which was the tiniest minmax when playing EC
minor anchor
Dreamstate last patch worked slightly differntly it gave u an instant
rn its a 30% reduction
and it still follows the logic
wait
i might be stupid
fossil hemlock
You're thinking of Warrior of Elune
minor anchor
sorry
lofty depot
Dremstate didn't work like that no
minor anchor
tldr sometimes it checks at the start of the cast in some cases
lofty depot
Can u show an example of it doing that
lofty depot
Show =/= tell
devout vale
What’s looking like the better DPS spec for midnight? ( I know it’s early and pre-tuning ) just curious
vale pebble
What’s looking like the better DPS spec for midnight? ( I know it’s early and pr...
open warcraftlogs.com and go to statistics
is the answer ur looking for
jaunty blaze
refer to petko tierlist obviously
minor anchor
May I ask if anyone knows how this DoT affect works?
vale pebble
you could also do that for m+
vale pebble
May I ask if anyone knows how this DoT affect works?
how should it work
vale pebble
its like ignite if u know how that works
it bulks them all up and hits the target on an interval
minor anchor
ok its a one pool that gets added in and calcutes the dps for each tick
vale pebble
yea
minor anchor
ok thank you
pseudo merlin
dude why are they ruining everything, even my batteries don't taste good anymore
drifting nova
did you fix your tatties
pseudo merlin
jaunty blaze
why are we eating batteries
jaunty blaze
😔
lofty depot
Now I wonder what extra repulsive tastes like
pseudo merlin
Now I wonder what extra repulsive tastes like
extra repulsive
I just dont like the wording
As if normally they're repulsive, they're delicious
lofty depot
Baby secure too
pseudo merlin
yeah once you break the packaging the batteries still have like a plastic casing you can't get open unless you cut it open
very annoying
atomic sequoia
is sunseeker mushroom actually working?
lucid olive
yes it just does low dam
lofty depot
It got nerfed
atomic sequoia
what happened to wild mushroom, do we take that ever? I heard that got buffed
ember veldt
I swear, boom has sucked for awhile now
lofty depot
Think sun seeker got nerfed, not that wild mushrooms got buffed
craggy sonnet
both i think
lofty depot
But it wasn't worth pressing the global even if u took wild mushroom
lofty depot
I swear, boom has sucked for awhile now
It was good in season 3 after rwf
craggy sonnet
but yeah, no clue if its worth talenting
atomic sequoia
I have a feeling theres going to be a big tuning pass before launch, I heard today that pyroblast isnt worth casting for fire mages now
craggy sonnet
doesnt benefit from anything else in the entire tree
lofty depot
I have a feeling theres going to be a big tuning pass before launch, I heard tod...
It's within a few % on specifically frostfire when in combust
ember veldt
It was good in season 3 after rwf
I'm like constantly lowest dmg in M+ with 10+ ilv against frost mages, warlock, hunter, DH and ele shaman; feels bad man
lofty depot
Well this is preparch
pseudo merlin
prepatch numbers
lofty depot
Which isn't season 3
pseudo merlin
kekw
lofty depot
Classes aren't balanced around not having apex talents
craggy sonnet
they just arent balanced
ember veldt
I thought for the longest time that I just sucked(which I kinnda do), until recently I had a similarly geared balance druid in a raid, and I out damaged him by like 15%, then I felt better about myself, lol
craggy sonnet
right now
lofty depot
I thought for the longest time that I just sucked(which I kinnda do), until rece...
Maybe both of u suck 👀
ember veldt
Maybe both of u suck 👀
I do not disagree
btw, what's a healthy dps for balance druid, I'm averaging 20k per target ish at 159
ember veldt
20k per target on MT talents.
ember veldt
But yeah, I think on st I do like 25k ish, still sucked.
ember veldt
both dbm and details are constanly bugged for me
Yes, there's an issue with not exiting combat properly on target dummies
lucid olive
what happened to wild mushroom, do we take that ever? I heard that got buffed
at least not for elunes chosen, but for keeper it will probably depend on the fight
it's also just a sim question whether active shrooms are worth spending the global on
lofty depot
It's no longer a modifier for damage, so it has to do a lot of damage or is useless
lucid olive
it's value without waning twilight is in the small bit of funnel it gives
lofty depot
And it likely won't, so
lucid olive
thats the reason it was played on like Igira and Tindral
i can see mushrooms being decent for the double dragon boss in Voidspire
since the boss spawns an add for every player in the raid and you stack those adds together
lofty depot
Until they add a mechanic where u can't stack them and I just spam starfall
drifting nova
Yes, there's an issue with not exiting combat properly on target dummies
we have details at home now
vale pebble
Until they add a mechanic where u can't stack them and I just spam starfall
u for sure want to stack them mate
that boss impossible without stacking them
highkirk u get me
lofty depot
"until they add a mechanic where u can't"
vale pebble
if they do they just change the boss completely
pseudo merlin
they should make swapping to bear form a raid buff
dense steeple
they should make swapping to bear form a raid buff
craggy sonnet
Wondering how dreamstate/challenge value is gonna turn out
quiet drift
They gotta remove the AP requirement from challenge
So cool to proc random Shs or Orbit breaker
and then just not have a talent
craggy sonnet
Yea it's pretty awkward
craggy sonnet
But there's gotta be some kinda condition I guess
normal pilot
for w/e reason this one like the low resource mechanics
normal pilot
last i heard ya feral/balacne has be same guy for a while now
craggy sonnet
I c
normal pilot
gone are the days of being overbuffed when the warlock dev worked on balance
tender elbow
anyone know why I importing Tettle's Cooldown manager profile doesn't work? :*(
pseudo merlin
we're in for a treat
tender elbow
normal pilot
maybe it's for bcdm
tender elbow
fck me
craggy sonnet
It's probably because it's from beta and the stuff ain't in sync
tender elbow
ty
pseudo merlin
you think this guy is in liquid?
jaunty blaze
ofc the name says so
lucid olive
are you importing it into the cooldown manager or into edit mode
tender elbow
are you importing it into the cooldown manager or into edit mode
cooldown manager import profiles, yes
should it be in the edit mode?
lucid olive
no
sturdy apex
you think this guy is in liquid?
googled him can only find organic food stuff. y sure it was in wow and not on farmers market simulator?
exotic perch
you think this guy is in liquid?
hes just drunk be nice to him
liquid lunch enjoyer
craggy sonnet
Wondering how dreamstate/challenge value is gonna turn out
surely gonna pick one of em for EC, no?
pseudo merlin
azure sand
Does Celestial Alignment fire both your apex talent eclipse bolts in midnight?
spice forum
you think this guy is in liquid?
lmao
azure sand
Ah thats kind of cool. I assume its the same with total eclipse too.
lucid olive
yes
wicked shuttle
you think this guy is in liquid?
0%
lofty depot
Love having worse pulsar
pseudo merlin
He probably has a social in there and tells people he is in Liquid
copper gate
“I know a guy” 
dense steeple
you think this guy is in liquid?
Ask him if he knows you can just google and see hes lying
lofty depot
It wouldn't matter
Send him his raider.io
pseudo merlin
How do you even know his rio
He might be using a diffy name on beta no ?
Guess that wasn't clear from context at all
I only play beta until middy comes out
lofty depot
He might be using a diffy name on beta no ?
Oh, shrug
drifting nova
dense steeple
dont need beta cuz ur an alpha
I stopped playing that shit to
I log in, I gloat. I log out
drifting nova
hit 54 can I do it
cursive mirage
Hey @lucid olive can you fix my Internet
cursive mirage
Been out for over a week. Not supposed to be back until maybe this weekend.
I’m in hell
Thankfully power has been back but internet still dead.
lucid olive
its not even that cold
cursive mirage
Well it’s all the ice that knocked trees and power lines down all over the place
cursive mirage
Real
lucid olive
been -6 to -8 celsius here for almost a month now with no wind, rain or snow
cursive mirage
Thank god our mayor decided moving the money allocated to infrastructure upgrades to solar build out was a good idea
lofty depot
Well it’s all the ice that knocked trees and power lines down all over the place
Have u considered getting your lines underground
cursive mirage
been -6 to -8 celsius here for almost a month now with no wind, rain or snow
Tbf it was getting to -18 Celsius here
cursive mirage
Have u considered getting your lines underground
Mine are!
lofty depot
it was .5 C this morning on miami
Why r we using C in miami
cursive mirage
Hence why I have power back
lofty depot
But not ur internet
pseudo merlin
help out the eu boys
lofty depot
So it's not
meager storm
im hispanic i used C all my life
cursive mirage
Xfinity service station still without power it’s doomed.
lucid olive
@pseudo merlin you see the mericans complain about the cold
pseudo merlin
😮
lucid olive
smh they never been in northern europe
pseudo merlin
real
lofty depot
My power isn't buried but my Internet is. I have a generator 🙂
Have to do some funny sequencing to turn AC on first cuz it draws like 50A to start but only uses like 12 to run :/
eager raft
been -6 to -8 celsius here for almost a month now with no wind, rain or snow
Damn it’s warm there!
We’ve been -15 to -25 every day for a few weeks now
cloud lion
holy fuck didnt know boomie is this bad atm
lofty depot
Nodders
eager raft
do you have power
Yeah surprisingly it’s been steady. Usually I lose power if the wind blows too hard
I only lost power one day at the end of December for like 3 hours
pseudo merlin
smh they never been in northern europe
tbf I think some states are like siberia level cold sometimes
but i might be wrong
lucid olive
yeah its just funny to comment on dumb american
pseudo merlin
Saw video the other day of a car that didnt have a layer of like frost, but it was literally just a sheet of ice an inch thick covering a car
Crazy humid cold
pseudo merlin
yeah its just funny to comment on dumb american
true dumb americans lmao!
lucid olive
theres so little humidity here that in -8 celsius my car still isnt frozen
lofty depot
No wind winters >
pseudo merlin
bangers too
Though I dont think im ever going to experience winter again
Where I'm at now it dips below 0 maybe a few days but im heading more south where it bottoms out at like 12 degrees in january
but averages 15-18
drifting nova
theres so little humidity here that in -8 celsius my car still isnt frozen
have humidity will trade
lofty depot
The classic Midwest trope is "snow wouldn't be so bad if the windchill wasn't -30"
pseudo merlin
I believe it
If you combine humidity with wind, -10 probably turns into -30 feely temp
even in Amsterdam -1 feels worse than -20 at home in Romania
just wind and humidity
loud kettle
Midwest winters do be like that
lucid olive
If you combine humidity with wind, -10 probably turns into -30 feely temp
yeah thats how i grew up
middle of a really flat island
coastal winters are rough
pseudo merlin
oof
wanton socket
Did my first raid in prepatch, really hope these numbers are not similiar next tier :))
jade flume
They will be higher with more gear
wanton socket
I mean compared to everyone else. Cuz i was always on the lower end of dmg. I mean ofc this prepatch isnt a good metric but still
pseudo merlin
I mean compared to everyone else. Cuz i was always on the lower end of dmg. I me...
i doubt its changing, beta dmg is shit too
that's just moonkin class fantasy
lofty depot
Maybe ur playing wrong, who knows
wanton socket
Maybe ur playing wrong, who knows
I mean thats surely a possibility aswell, logs say its fine so prob not doing horrible but dmg is pretty bad
pseudo merlin
link log
pseudo merlin
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jaJTxqYh1QpXBKNF?fight=5&type=damage-done
@lofty depot thoughts
Hey atleast you're beating the SV, enh and ret
!
jade flume
More than me so hes a confirmed piper
pseudo merlin
My benchmark is always
If my thumb can fit in between the damage difference between two 99s
something is probably wrong
and I have a fat thumb
btw af, voidman and sub are also absurdly busted on beta
pinnacle talents aint saving anything there
lofty depot
U assume AC and UE just aren't played and the assumption is they go into total eclipse
But sim questions
Rattle could be worse than weaver aswell even after the buff, but again sim question... Nonetheless, something to think about.
The logic from s2 still applies to when to use CA
Which is always with trees
loud kettle
what do the sims say
pseudo merlin
what do the sims say
never enter eclipse
lofty depot
Trees on CD
Always CA with Trees
Always Convoke with CA
Then this happens where u trees in the middle of eclipses
Which again, u should be doing so at the start of eclipse/ca
Because that's when ur dumping asp
This is all to say that..... It's a prepatch 1minute fight playing a boomkin which is tuned poorly..... U are playing incorrectly
Disclaimer..... These are assumptions and I have no actual sims just what was correct in previous seasons with the same theories
pseudo merlin
Anyone know if MGT still has the book
loud kettle
Magic Gathering the
eager raft
Anyone know if MGT still has the book
Marjorie Greene Taylor
junior parcel
Management
pseudo merlin
Marjorie Greene Taylor
Is that her even hotter sister?
fossil hemlock
That arrow really helped me spot the moonkin, thank you
cloud lion
its just guildmates making fun
cloud lion
good thing class is still brainless to play even without knowing what they changed
eager raft
Did you at least have fun
cloud lion
does making fun of me count?
eager raft
Yes
lofty depot
good thing class is still brainless to play even without knowing what they chang...
Have u considered ur playing incorrectly
cloud lion
Well if my logs are orange that means if i play it incorrectly, than im just lucky with procs
Sure i do make mistakes still getting used to new crappy UI
But im sure its not that bad
lofty depot
U post the nexus king log but didn't hold convoke for damage amp
-500dkp right there
cloud lion
treant didnt want to apply moonfire
lofty depot
Why didn't u press it after u pressed sunfire
round field
do not trust them to press it
cloud lion
cuz i wanted treant to apply it
lofty depot
That's not who we've ever done it
cloud lion
still have time to get used to it, still didnt even fix UI
and kinda cba atm with loging 1 hour per week
lofty depot
Yea, I'm just fixing mindset before next tier jah feel
lofty depot
That's just a tuning thing
They could've given the buffs prepatch
They hate us tho
It's like every tier they miss our damage mark by like 10-20%
cloud lion
maybe we are perfect they just tune others too high
lofty depot
Last expac the aura was at 34% + w.e. buffs they did to abilities throughout that time
Our aura is already 6% and midnight hasn't dropped
cloud lion
if every1 doing our dmg boss will take longer and not 1 min to die
lofty depot
Should go look at surge and wrath buffs throughout the expac
See how high that number got
cloud lion
i know
but didnt check anything for midnight and prepatch cuz i was tilted with removing WA and addons
cloud lion
i can use Dsune WA?
lofty depot
Sune TM
cloud lion
yap OI from discord
lofty depot
Gamz works fine for now
lofty depot
What part
vital hound
bro is ready for the sune PASTEL
cloud lion
for me ELVUI looks awful
pseudo merlin
My shit looks exactly the same as before
cap
lofty depot
Have u considered u should get new eyes
cloud lion
they do something with color of game also
lofty depot
15 minutes til I get home
pseudo merlin
im clocking you buddy
cloud lion
at the end i will get used to this shit and still complain but still play
lofty depot
Bluds gonna point out the subtle difference in weakaura and gotcha
pseudo merlin
at the end i will get used to this shit and still complain but still play
And this is exactly how we got to where we are now
pseudo merlin
Bluds gonna point out the subtle difference in weakaura and gotcha
I aint like that
what the fuck is this
cloud lion
most people didnt have issue with addons and WAs but they werent loud like other group
lofty depot
I mean there are objective problems with the cdm.....most people don't complain about those tho
pseudo merlin
why is there a literal skeleton crew walking around in org
vital hound
what the fuck is this
FIRST MATE JAMBOYA
pseudo merlin
what the
lofty depot
why is there a literal skeleton crew walking around in org
Plunderstorm 👀
pseudo merlin
They walking around like they own the place
cloud lion
Plunderstorm 👀
with same rewards like before for people who didnt get them
lofty depot
Plunderstorm is a for fun gamemode
lofty depot
Should do like a 5 month battle pass start at the .5 patch and say fuck it
Then every tier I'll have some bullshit to randomly play
pseudo merlin
nah plunderstorm the kinda thing people stop playing if its not super time limited
lofty depot
Well yea at the start of a new tier
pseudo merlin
imagine if every day was christmas
lofty depot
Which is the point
Every .5 patch u get new content and it ends when the next .5 patch is
pseudo merlin
didnt they say we're getting something that isnt Pstorm tho
also like a seperate game mode, but diffy
lofty depot
Idk they're adding like 2 standalone game modes which looked nothing like it
drifting nova
are season 2 hero fos meant to be unlocked after season?
pseudo merlin
wrong game?
drifting nova
wat
lofty depot
Hero fos?
drifting nova
feat
lofty depot
O
drifting nova
vital hound
how much that cost ya
pseudo merlin
I did it for free
Getting declined to beta 11s when AVG time to fill a group is like 20 minutes
it's so fucking over
fossil hemlock
also like a seperate game mode, but diffy
Yeah they teased it in the state of azeroth video. It's spooky duskwood-vibes
This is all they showed
Sounds like it's in 12.1.5-ish
pseudo merlin
anyone cooked up a theory for what that could be yet
cuz I have no idea looking at this
lofty depot
prevailing ideas were town of salem or amongus
pseudo merlin
whats town of salem
lofty depot
the other mode was prop hunt
lofty depot
whats town of salem
mafia?
town of salem / mafia is amongus without hte running around and tasks lol
loud kettle
yea instead of running around doing tasks or whatever, you have a defined role that can do stuff like narrow down the role of a specific player, or kill a player etc etc
during 'night'
lucid olive
man town of salem used to be so good
loud kettle
and during 'day' you discuss
true viper
whats town of salem
loud kettle
man town of salem used to be so good
some would say it still is (:
lucid olive
it isnt
loud kettle
hater
lucid olive
they tried to make a straight among us clone too
Traitors in Salem
that one stunk
saturated market
loud kettle
yea im not a fan of among us anyway
lucid olive
I only got like 14 hours in Town of Salem 2
none of my friends got into it so never bothered playing
whats your most played steam game @loud kettle
loud kettle
mostly dnd
sometimes itd be just random games with the homies too but yea mostly dnd
lucid olive
i've played some tabletop sim with friends but people always flip tables
like cards against humanity and stuff
last i played it was just 1v1 in yahtzee
loud kettle
oh yea, you gotta set it to where you can flip the table but it fixes itself after
lucid olive
gg
lofty depot
mostly dnd
smh dreamgrove dnd when
loud kettle
a one-shot could be cool
lofty depot
no death and decay
drifting nova
different types innit
lucid olive
rolling d20 to use solar beam on ravec to silence him
pseudo merlin
d1 unlucky
lucid olive
pseudo merlin
rolling d20 to kill kekkers instantly
lucid olive
you were the kid that would just go "nuh uh i have laser shields!!!" whenever you lost play fights huh
pseudo merlin
drifting nova
saving throw light of elune
pseudo merlin
critical hit, kekkers dies
drifting nova
drifting nova
you were the kid that would just go "nuh uh i have laser shields!!!" whenever yo...
you lost play fights?
pseudo merlin
you were the kid that would just go "nuh uh i have laser shields!!!" whenever yo...
Well I did have laser shields, me being prepared doesn't mean that I'm doing anything wrong
loud kettle
how would that even work
you use an online table basically whether thats roll20 foundry tabletop sim doesnt really matter, and then voice chat to speak to each other
pseudo merlin
No I mean like the whole party would just be druids
pseudo merlin
But it's cool that you can do that fully online
loud kettle
it would be yes
loud kettle
you cant really be 'bad'
pseudo merlin
drifting nova
the online dnd sites were alot better than I thought itd be tbf
loud kettle
because the difficulty is set by the dm anyway
pseudo merlin
I see
loud kettle
if the group is poorly optimized you can reduce the difficulty of the npcs
pseudo merlin
But like wouldn't you want a party with a super diverse skillset?
loud kettle
combat also isnt strictly needed either
lucid olive
i've never played dnd either but i've seen stranger things and thats basically the same thing
pseudo merlin
yea but playing on easy mode is lame
drifting nova
But like wouldn't you want a party with a super diverse skillset?
YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT DRUIDS
loud kettle
But like wouldn't you want a party with a super diverse skillset?
ya if ur optimizing it is useful to have people do different things. (druid subclasses can do different things)
pseudo merlin
all druids suck atm
lucid olive
anyone else prefer the tablebottom
lofty depot
can mtg and just go to the moxfield and load decks
pseudo merlin
ya if ur optimizing it is useful to have people do different things. (druid subc...
ok ok
loud kettle
you can also multiclass
drifting nova
I was the frontline tank of my group with the highest armour class
I got 1 shot on the 2nd encounter
loud kettle
so like a druid but with a level in barbarian or something
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
Honestly I really need to atleast play DND once before I die
I'm not sure if I'm much into actual in character roleplay
But games are fun
drifting nova
tabletop wow
pseudo merlin
Like you wont find me on Argent Dawn EU
loud kettle
well there is two modes of rp basically, you can either pretend you are your character (1st person) or describe what your character is doing (3rd person)
lucid olive
Like you wont find me on Argent Dawn EU
L
pseudo merlin
TBF I've accidentally been on AD EU once
loud kettle
both are accepted and not everyone needs to do it the same way
pseudo merlin
and I was just running around orgrimmar watching people
drifting nova
friend said his next character he'd be jamaican
pseudo merlin
It was kinda fun
pseudo merlin
They were deep into it
pseudo merlin
well there is two modes of rp basically, you can either pretend you are your cha...
I see
I feel like I could totally get into the flow though
loud kettle
ya its pretty fun as long as the group is fun basically
drifting nova
found out early on spells in general are giga busted early on
just like mages and locks in wow
big shock
pseudo merlin
ya its pretty fun as long as the group is fun basically
ok so we dont invite kekkers
loud kettle
yea level 1 is rough
groups ive been in always start at lvl 4
one-shots can be any level
drifting nova
watching a friend duo go priest/mage and have 10spells to choose from
I'm sat there swinging my shitty axe
for 2
delicate perch
Just play bg3
pseudo merlin
can I have a crossbow
delicate perch
It’s like dnd but fun
drifting nova
as a secondary...I think
loud kettle
you can use any weapon
drifting nova
groups ive been in always start at lvl 4
orly? explains alot we only got to levle3 after like 3hours
loud kettle
you can invent ur own if ur dm is chill like that
delicate perch
I’m using having to talk to kekkers as a weapon
lucid olive
that means ravec can have laser shields
delicate perch
Kinda broken but too bad
delicate perch
He’d just be racist to the boomkins
loud kettle
100%
lofty depot
thats fine
loud kettle
boomkins would find themselves mysteriously unlucky
lucid olive
i expect a fully custom crafted story revolving around either protecting or enslaving or burning down the druid grove
delicate perch
“Yeah sorry you might be level 1 but this first enemy is level 12 and casts level 6 spells only at boomkin mains”
lofty depot
i expect a fully custom crafted story revolving around either protecting or ensl...
what about the season 1 dreamgrove survivor
delicate perch
pseudo merlin
2x 1h crossbow is like the stealth archer Skyrim build <:kekW:626450502279888906...
oof
pseudo merlin
that means ravec can have laser shields
YES LETS GO
There was like a short period where streaming DND campaigns was popular
I watched a few full campaigns
Quite fun actually
lofty depot
Betrayal at house on a hill
Red Dragon Inn
rain agate
hi all, anyone have good elvui for balance?
lucid olive
elvui profiles usually aren't specifically themed for a class
you can go to wago and find a bunch of profiles and choose the one you think looks best
pseudo merlin
you telling me i couldve just imported a profile rather than spending countless hours fixing this shit addon
😩
honest hill
what exactly keeps me infight even when i run to the other side of dornogal every time i train at target dummies? only happens on my boomie
lofty depot
"stupid fucking shit"
honest hill
hmm really strange
dense steeple
???
loud kettle
weapon skills pog
dense steeple
thanks
uncut frigate
Is Elune's Chosen even anywhere near viable for Raid?
lofty depot
dont have sims, but usually no
vital hound
i have sims and its not viable
stone ledge
Think the only time it was even close to viable was very start of s3 before hotfixes
uncut frigate
Boo. my DPS is so low compared to other classes I've tried in prepatch, like too low for ten item levels to account for the difference. feels bad.
uncut frigate
I definitely think it's a skill issue
lofty depot
post a log
uncut frigate
I'm not sure how to do that, and honestly I'm just practising against dummies
rotund gull
Hi Is Balance Druid currently worth bringing to a raid?
I’m seriously debating whether I should sell an Owl to my raid leader,
or push for a different ranged DPS instead
Of course, Balance Druid is one of my favorite
It feels more fun than before, but the tuning just seems really low
lofty depot
well its prepatch and classes arent balanced
bosses die in 1m, u could bring 14 boomkins and still kill all the bosses
uncut frigate
Okay, so... Don't know how useful this will be, but https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MRc4YJr3yz6nGWta
uncut frigate
So, DoT before using CDs?
lofty depot
on sec i need to roll
@lucid olive damn
yes u dont want to waste gcds on abilities that dont do a lot of damage in your cd window
it should look like this
u also then send CA here which (this is an assumption from how we played in season 2)... but u should be using CA with trees always
the prio for cd is:
Trees on cd
Always CA with trees
Always convoke with CA
lofty depot
ok so fundamentally
just because u have CA up, doesnt mean u have to use it
it has charges, u can hold it for like 100s without losing value
you also shouldnt be sending asp or rather this much asp outside of eclipse... right before youre about to eclipse
uncut frigate
I want to be able to send those three Starfires ASAP in Eclipse, in other words.
uncut frigate
Yeah, my bad
lucid olive
starsurges
yes but in other words
lofty depot
you want to enter elcipse with as much asp as possible
u did the same thing here
trees before ca
u also sent a surge right before ur about to CA
which doesnt make sense
its also outside of eclipse
as is this trees surge
harsh herald
So sometimes i'll pool for CA and I get a moon proc which means trees will overcap me
Would sending a surge be wrong there?
Before cooldowns that is
lofty depot
should be fine
u would likely prefer to ca before the moon procs cuz surely it does a lot of damage
but idk tbf
harsh herald
Yeah it'll be rare, but sometimes it's during movement or mechanics
It's upsetting when it happens
Hhaa
lofty depot
yea its a small like justification or minmax
and using trees ca, surge surge, convoke then dumping surges again
u have a lot of instant casts
uncut frigate
Okay, this should be my second attempt. Is there any improvement? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8a1DVZ7KwqjbYLph?fight=last
lofty depot
looks better yes
uncut frigate
So just a matter of taking what I've been told here, and keep at it?
lofty depot
So just a matter of taking what I've been told here, and keep at it?
u sent trees outside of eclipse
wasting the whole buff
dense steeple
i just got kicked from mythic araz for taking the orb to the wrong spot, so i uploaded the log to prove it wasnt me and then he blocked me after i linked him the log lmao
lofty depot
i just got kicked from mythic araz for taking the orb to the wrong spot, so i up...
get rekt noob
dense steeple
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wNGm3DvWqTP2Xdxc?fight=6&view=replay&position=21568 deadass, watch vaenric the rogue from timestamp 20-33 seconds
"it was you devourer"
delicate perch
I believe em
lofty depot
i gotta get trinkets before i go back in there man
smh not using primary gem
gottta be 1% diffy
dense steeple
probably
dry elk
guys, if i don't pick New Moon, does invoque still cast full moon?
round field
Yes
bleak rivet
it should look like this
Is it a case of icy veins it out of date but it’s saying the opener is CA, dump resources then tree into convoke
quiet drift
Out of date
pallid bay
Is it a case of icy veins it out of date but it’s saying the opener is CA, dump ...
just ping gamz about it
pallid bay
twin lotus
my 🐐
pallid bay
maybe its time to put out a banger
vale pebble
maybe its time to put out a banger
yea its time to put out the #oiui
pallid bay
Gingi "its only 5 dollar" UI..
crude cargo
Gingi "its only 5 dollar" UI..
time to hatetweet again i fear
fossil hemlock
Gingi "its only 5 dollar" UI..
Please tell me that's not $5 per addon
delicate perch
Gingi "its only 5 dollar" UI..
LMAO
crude cargo
pokimane's cookies are closer to streamer's ui than you may think oddly enough
potent cargo
It's free if you wait like 6 weeks and just post in here asking for someone to share the profiles
If I ever get the pastebins for them ill share them
I used to have a method of stealing weak auras from ppl if they opened up the weak auras page on stream
we need to replicate that 
maiden pasture
The good UIs are all easy to yoink anyway 
Ah that page is just poorly displayed it is apparently $5 for it all, not for each part xd
pallid bay
I used to have a method of stealing weak auras from ppl if they opened up the we...
i remember the good old days when this would just display the data unencrypted https://data.wago.io/lookup/wago/code?id=23TqCqOfk&version=1.0.1&c=1
glossy jungle
I remember the good old days when you could steal weakauras without the other person knowing
Method Island Expedition count weakaura? Yoink 
sinful stone
Hi guys! Trying balance out and find it really fun. Seem to do quite low damage though, is it just a tuning thing at the moment? Spec feels really nice to play though
jaunty blaze
tuning is very bad currently yes
pseudo merlin
It is just tuning, not so sure about the at the moment part. Blizzard clearly doesn't want bamkin to shine.
Blizzard boomie headcannon is not doing dmg
sinful stone
At least tuning can be fixed. Tried my usual MM hunter and it feels so slow and clunky even if tuning is ok
Boomkin actually feels really nice
jaunty blaze
its pretty much the trend of past seasons to be quite undertuned at the start and end being somewhere middle of the pack after tuning passes
vale pebble
the trend of past seasons which has no corelation with the future
jaunty blaze
i mean based on what we can see right now it continues but ofc you cant know for sure
fossil hemlock
Eww, AI
fossil hemlock
Careful, Thyme will smite you
sudden marsh
it should look like this
when playing EC do i want to use Fury of Elune before or after pressing eclipse/incarn?
lofty depot
Before
past tide
Hell ol friends
pseudo merlin
pseudo merlin
The guides are still in the same place as december
nothing much changed really, just eclipse being a button
twin lotus
and the tier set no longer exists so u dont send double CA
dense steeple
pressing starfall on st rn?
I wouldnt
Biggest thing is always press trees with CA, only press convoke in CA.
merry ibex
how are we playign this game
been off since december
Current objective: Do more damage than the tanks
jade drift
Current objective: Do more damage than the tanks
as always
dense steeple
The real current objective is become a good devourer player
Show the DH comunity how good ranged can be with their own class
pseudo merlin
The real current objective is become a good devourer player
imagine if we had voidman dev 🙂
lofty depot
Show the DH comunity how good ranged can be with their own class
"good dh player" kek
crude cargo
im a double agent
royal zenith
are you new to wow
pseudo merlin
🦆 are you enjoying voidman
royal zenith
I have logged in once during prepatch to checkout addon stuff
logged out
and might stay logged out
(hopefully new tier will light a fire??)
eager raft
and might stay logged out
Tbh the more I’ve played the more it’s grown on me
New season will ignite your pash ducks
royal zenith
meh, there's more to it
cause proper raiding also requires time investment
we'll see
pseudo merlin
quitter
lofty depot
why are we beefing with our chaos brand buddies
Hate any and all melee
And warlocks
And mages
And hunters
Everyone else fine
Ope I lied, and evokers
dense steeple
Dev isn't melee
pseudo merlin
No he just hates them
dense steeple
why are we beefing with our chaos brand buddies
Were not beefing were taking over
normal pilot
deux is gonna be housing main he's not a quitter he's an adapter
pseudo merlin
dense steeple
Barbie dream house simulator parses when
normal pilot
you laugh but consider the resources put into housing vs combat
who do you think is playing the real wow
pseudo merlin
I laugh as coping mechanism
eager raft
I’d be willing to bet deux hasn’t even selected a housing plot yet
pseudo merlin
Wow stopped being about big strong sweaty hairy men when MOP released
eager raft
🔥 🔥
normal pilot
not going in unknown
eager raft
Housing goat
crude cargo
devourer is filled with tourists laying their hands on a range class for the first time
🥀
crude cargo
having to argue with ppl that cannot stand a 3s cast despite the entire filler rotation allowing you to move around
lofty depot
having to argue with ppl that cannot stand a 3s cast despite the entire filler r...
Just wait til the melee players find out they have to do more mechanics
crude cargo
having to tell a melee player they have to think about their movement in advance is already too much
drifting nova
why think when heroic leap
dense steeple
having to tell a melee player they have to think about their movement in advance...
That guy was so mad
Actual 
dense steeple
Thats gonna seperate them from real ranged players. Theyre playing fotm dh, im just playing a better more mobile boomkin
crude cargo
having your filler being the thing you do on the move
is like peak game design for range
dense steeple
My buddy yesterday tried to tell me dev isnt a mobile spec too I was like "okay bro watch this key" And then I did 25k overall at 140 ilvl moving the whole fucking key