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drifting nova
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woah there

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built a tv stand earlier

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that took like 6

pseudo merlin
drifting nova
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and the fuckers prescrewed it wrong

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the hinge was on backwards

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I was setup to fail

dense steeple
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which is why you dont buy prebuilt

drifting nova
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true a decade ago, less true now

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guess depends where you are too

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some giga scammy american prebuilts tho

dense steeple
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nah prebuilts are still a trap now

drifting nova
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from bestbuy and rfiedns

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still sad I scammed myself tho

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the r7 9800x3d released like a week before and the same setup with that was only +£4

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overthe 780

pseudo merlin
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I've seen non scam prebuilts in my country

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One was like at a 100 bucks markup compared to the sum of its parts

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which is completely fair for labour costs and a warranty

drifting nova
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did I want to faff about waiting for each part to arrive either

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not really

round field
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lowkey cheaper than buying ur own

dense steeple
round field
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sure you will

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if ur not watching what ur buying

lucid olive
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i can see them being scams in america

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you can get a solid prebuilt over here without much issues

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for a while prebuilts were the only way to get a 5000-series gpu

nimble tangle
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does BCDM still not have centered feature? glorp

jaunty blaze
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not that i know

pallid bay
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its a very hacky feature

pallid bay
nimble tangle
pallid bay
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you can buy starforge pc for example

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i assume they use off the shelf parts

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or you can buy some HP gaming pc

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with some random ass motherboard

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with every saving in the world

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to cut down cost

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obv starforge can still pick bad parts

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but the consumers are way more educated

lucid olive
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yeah for sure

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the brand of prebuilt matters a lot

drifting nova
pseudo merlin
pallid bay
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think in general if you would use the same parts, you'd end up paying more building yourself

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but you can build cheaper with other parts

jade flume
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why is starforge selling pcs on a loss

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are they dumb

nimble tangle
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my gaming pc is actually a prebuilt

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powerspec

abstract parrot
lucid olive
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nice

tight cypress
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man, playing the boomkin to level through the tww campaign feels weird. I just mash buttons and stuff keeps dying

lucid olive
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gonna download 4 addons that all do 1 particular thing with the cooldown manager

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omg why am i lagging in combat blizzard pls

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must be elvui

nimble tangle
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only lagging in dornogal

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used to be smooth

abstract parrot
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but yeah it’s annoying that bcdm somehow doesn’t have a centering feature

nimble tangle
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im surprised that BCDM and CMC work well together

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
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Copying starts

lucid olive
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centering feature for what

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i use bcdm and haven't noticed anything

pallid bay
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i just steal the code

lucid olive
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woah

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the new quazi

pallid bay
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dont tell lucky

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heard he might be coming after neph

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confirm?

lucid olive
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too late

pallid bay
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lucky dosnt like me anymore

lucid olive
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what did you do

pallid bay
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you know what i did..

lucid olive
scenic orbit
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calling FBI

pallid bay
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nelvphUI

lucid olive
pallid bay
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what part did neph steal

scenic orbit
lucid olive
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wallahi?

drifting nova
scenic orbit
pallid bay
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i heard some whispers

scenic orbit
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World of CopyPasteCraft

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jeeesus

pallid bay
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that he was back at it

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with some fresh elvui copied code

lucid olive
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Neph said he quit but my addon keeps getting updated

pseudo merlin
jade flume
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isnt neph the og vibe coded stolen code shit

pallid bay
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curious

scenic orbit
drifting nova
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holy hackermans

jade flume
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elvui copying nephui confirmed?

vital hound
# scenic orbit

@claude pls refactor and rewrite the attached lua to fit my nephui codebase

pallid bay
lucid olive
# scenic orbit

but quazi said there was mathematically only 1 way to write this!

pallid bay
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its just math..

jade flume
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math should be illegal

drifting nova
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which one

loud kettle
dusty ember
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Buddy’s devourer is doing over 100k dps on cleave dummies. I’m normally resto but trying balance on them I can’t come anywhere close 🤣

jade flume
jade flume
drifting nova
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lemme see if I can do my job without maths SuspiciousChicken

dusty ember
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Are they overturned post buff?

jade flume
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who knows, its irrelevant since theres no season atm

drifting nova
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I was happy with 10k

jade flume
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if they are, probably not significantly though, at least from what ive seen

loud kettle
drifting nova
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is relative innit

loud kettle
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Awful lot of math im hearing buddy

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Numbers ❌
Vibes ✅

drifting nova
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I was DCXCV before the squish

dusty ember
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I know pre patch isn’t relevant but I still want to know they can actually keep classes in the same ballpark

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Confidence thing lol

drifting nova
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the answer to that is no

jade flume
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Depends on the size of the park you feel me

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specs are nowhere close right now though if thats what you are wondering

drifting nova
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and are unlikely to be until heroic week

jade flume
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and bamkin is one of the worst

drifting nova
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are they even doing heroic week

jade flume
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i think so

dusty ember
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Heroic week?

drifting nova
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I just hope I dont login 1 day and be unable to queue for a dungeon

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I could last week

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upping the ilvl that week was cringe

dusty ember
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What is heroic week

drifting nova
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heroic raid but not mythic

dusty ember
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Ah ok

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Was trying to learn new balance and ele shaman for offspec. Best I could do on cleave dummies was like 60k over time amortizing out cooldowns over 5 minute stretches

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Shaman is geared wrong so less representative (resto stats) but I think I was doing things right. Then I did a 5 man with my buddy and his devourer did double my shamans damage 🤣 I accept I’m a bad ele tho

pseudo merlin
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the brand new spec is strong?

dusty ember
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Haha fair enough. I’ve been out of the game for nine years so it’s been a minute I had almost forgotten blizzard loves to have their shiny new things be broken

pseudo merlin
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dw voidman pales in comparison to the real purple class

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atleast in mini game

dusty ember
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I only came back in TWW. I have fond memories of Tier 1 of MoP when Mistweavers pooped all over the rest of the healers in our core

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Of course that course corrected horribly and by the time we were pushing Throne heroic on release they had cratered

nimble tangle
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redesigned devourer?

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OP ASF

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NEW META

rich jewel
native wharf
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xd

dense steeple
pseudo merlin
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yeah

pallid bay
pseudo merlin
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were you stealing code?

native wharf
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oof

thorny sentinel
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anyone knows the new pull timer command pls ? my "/pull 10" macro doesn't work anymore

grizzled shoal
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./cd 10

craggy sonnet
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pull is still maintained as an alias by stuff like bigwigs etc

thorny sentinel
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thx

craggy sonnet
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the furrals are very vulnerable right now

dense steeple
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Someone should really make an addon that acts as a platform for a bunch of micro addons like this

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xd

pseudo merlin
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Yeah like a collection of auras

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and you can like individually download these auras without needing a seperate addon

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that would be a banger

drifting nova
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a big repository

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for the longest time I thought my game was bugging seeing it light up

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not knowing what time spiral did

nova ocean
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Maybe quazzi will sell a pack of them

drifting nova
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...maybe blizzard will

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think of the free money

nimble tangle
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Also, is there an ADDON reminding raid buff

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I see crimx has one

pseudo merlin
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dude why do all these gold selling websites just randomly put out banger guides

jaunty blaze
nimble tangle
carmine dove
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are you guys using blizz UI and cooldown manager? got a new computer since i last played so tryna get everything looking better with the UI changes. looks like u can do something similar to old weakauras with blizz ui but i cannot figure it out, doesnt look the same as what wowhead is making it look like

pseudo merlin
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no lmao

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game is unplayable with anything default

lofty depot
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well u have to use the cooldown manager

pseudo merlin
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use ABE or BCDM

lofty depot
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but most people have addons helping with it

carmine dove
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which do you guys prefer?

pseudo merlin
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I like ABE

carmine dove
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sounds good, thanks

stone lance
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I am back After 1 1/2 Year Break.
So Weakaura is dead?

Anything out there or a Option from Blizzard to Track eclipse duration?

Saw this in a Video but Not sure from what its coming or if its still usable

pseudo merlin
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this is default

stone lance
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Can’t find it in the Blizzard Option

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Have to Check my buffs in the Right up corner VerySadCat

pliant moon
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open cdm, move eclipse into tracked bars

stone lance
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Ty

lofty depot
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i dislike the buff bars to icons

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there are a few ways to get the buff bars with alternative addons, but waiting on less buggy ones

dusk skiff
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Keeper good for keys now?

proven swallow
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how do i move the buff bar up a bit? im using gamz profile from wowhead, adjusting offset in bcdm doesnt seem to do much

lofty depot
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(ass)

dusk skiff
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xd

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So keeper competes now

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crazy work

lofty depot
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scroll down

lofty depot
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also tuning is continuing to happen and happens through .5 patch

void jacinth
potent cargo
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we back on that elvui

lofty depot
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the buff bar should work with the edit mode and cdm import

lucid olive
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hey glyph when are you making pvp guide in the new resources channel

lofty depot
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but i think the buff bar is anchored to cast bar

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so it might be fucked without hte bcdm import

potent cargo
lofty depot
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cant remember fully

lucid olive
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i just want to add to the FAQ part a bit and thats about it

lofty depot
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whats the over/under on glyph knowing it exists

lucid olive
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probably clean up the UI stuff with more wago links

potent cargo
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ik theres a resource ch

void jacinth
potent cargo
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only other q people ask is "why is my m+ damage so low"

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but that might cease to be a thing with mast changes who tf knows

lofty depot
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pvpers playing m+?

potent cargo
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pvpers cant read

lucid olive
potent cargo
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so dont even bother doing anything pvp related in there

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pvp channel needs chatter infusion all the time anyway better ppl just ask the q's KEK

proven swallow
lofty depot
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it doesnt look like u did cuz the trinket is on the right

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which is also curious

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but also, did u import the edit mode string aswell

proven swallow
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ah, just moved the trinket manually, and yes to the latter

lofty depot
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what is the buffs anchored to

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anchor it to the cast bar and then set the y offset to like 2-5

potent cargo
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over under on more questions being about UI than boomy the last few weeks?

lofty depot
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over by a million

proven swallow
lofty depot
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u have some other addon

proven swallow
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nothing that should affect ui shit, same issue even with all disabled except bcdm

lofty depot
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are u sure u imported the correct string

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have u reloaded ui since doing some of this?

proven swallow
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pretty sure i did, got the bcdm one posted by you and gamz's cdm from wowhead

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(also reloaded ui with no effect)

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also the buffs seem to be glitching to the left sometimes?

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im tweaking

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i thought i just could import someone else's work and not have to do anything myself

lofty depot
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also u said 2 of the 3 things

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again theres an edit mode string

manic plume
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Does pressing CA not automatically put you in moonkin form anymore? (did it ever or am I dumb)

lofty depot
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which is annoying it says "raid ui"

nimble tangle
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what is the addon that show blizzard default dps meter better?

lofty depot
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details

nimble tangle
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like showing total damage and dps together

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NO DETAILS

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NO SIR

lofty depot
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STOP BEING WRONG

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U FUCK

nimble tangle
lucid olive
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thats a 20 for sure

nimble tangle
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I WAS BORN WRONG ALREADY

lofty depot
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zys is getting bad rolls

dense steeple
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its crazy that my devodh does almost as much dam as my boomy and its 30 ilvls lower

lofty depot
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spec is op

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wcyd

dense steeple
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swap

uncut roost
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Did you make a void elf one

dense steeple
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no

proven swallow
lofty depot
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no

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theres many strings :/

dense steeple
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wait a minute

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devo is an int class?

lofty depot
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yes

dense steeple
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fuckin

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diamontine core from fract rolled as offspec for me

lofty depot
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did u change ur loot role

dense steeple
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hmm

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yup it was manually set to havoc for some reason

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no idea why i would have done that

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so lemme get this straight

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my 135 dh is doing 80% of what my 169 druid does, and im wearing agi weapons

proven swallow
potent cargo
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my druid is like 140 rn

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doing literally nothing

proven swallow
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Or am I overcomplicating things

dense steeple
lofty depot
dense steeple
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first time pugging as devo(ilvl 137) howd i do

drifting nova
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below average

delicate perch
drifting nova
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ashes of scam shut down, about damn time holy

teal sphinx
dense steeple
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i'll do better next week

craggy sonnet
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since the other one you were told only shows personal and only one icon at a time

nimble tangle
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This looks exactly like the WA we used to have

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GREAT JOB BLIZZARD

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oh wait, this addon cannot show buff reminder in keys

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DEAD

craggy sonnet
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no addon can

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only before starting the run

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(and yes .. its ported from the same guy that made the WA)

covert coyote
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do I main moonkin in midnight or should I panic reroll to ashes of creation

lofty depot
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what would be the problem with maining moonkin

delicate perch
molten ember
molten ember
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LOL

potent cargo
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@muted citrus have you got a good house

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in wow

muted citrus
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not like anything crazy

sweet vigil
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is balance druid m+ damage supposed to be extremely low right now 😭

tawny cloud
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I ran two hc raids yesterday. One with druid, and one with my warlock.

I was doung an average of 30k dps with druid. And 70k with lock. Is druids just that low dps atm or am I just bad? 🤣 both 168-169 ilvl

potent cargo
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boomy dps is just that low atm

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no tuning

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prepatch

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etc

delicate perch
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porque no los dos?

potent cargo
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i cant even break 20k on a dummy

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dire times

delicate perch
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just shuffle over a lil and starfall the whole group

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boomy suddenly insane* (slightly better)

tawny cloud
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Glad its just the low dps from druids atm. Hope things changes. I really like my owlguy

potent cargo
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can change on a dime

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so fk knows

tawny cloud
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Time will tell

rugged epoch
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Hello what hero talent is best for m+ at your opinion?

vital hound
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our apex talents make us below average

potent cargo
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im sure i will find myself playing fotm

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next season :^)

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or boomy bench 2Head

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hows feral doing

vital hound
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who knows who cares

potent cargo
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filled with hope

delicate perch
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boomy best dps motw bringer LETSGOO (might lose to tank or healer)

tawny cloud
potent cargo
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new spec

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flavour of the month

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just means whatever is broken/strongest

meager storm
rugged epoch
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Ok

tawny cloud
vital hound
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giga fucked

delicate perch
vital hound
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i know resto is giga beans to play cause of ui

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and one of our tanks had a menty b cause of bear lol

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barkskin unavailable on cdm KEKpoint

potent cargo
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lol wtf how

vital hound
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caps was appropriate

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tbh

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but yea crazy lol

delicate perch
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isn't barkskin like a 40s cd

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just macro it

naive drum
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yo for an moonkin returnee after many years(mainly played guardian)

how is moonkin and how easy is it to relearn it atm?

jaunty blaze
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Fairly easy to learn, how good it will be depending on tuning in the coming weeks Noone can tell you that. In prepatch it's pretty bad

naive drum
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not sure if they removed it...but didn't moony had a way to extend dots previously?

jaunty blaze
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Aetherial kindling talent extends dots for 3 seconds

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When you press starfall

potent cargo
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so you'll be right

glossy lance
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Hello, now with WA gone what's the best thing to use to easily notice if you are or not in moonkin form ?

jaunty blaze
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Eyes probably

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Different action bars in caster and moonkinform maybe

glossy lance
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I a using Glyph of the stars, so eyes not that reliable

jaunty blaze
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I dont think there is something that tracks it for you yet like weakaura did

somber path
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there is an addon that replaced the missing raid buff wa so def possible to make one just have to wait for a person to create the addon though

pallid bay
tawny cloud
potent cargo
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yeah and moonkin on every button

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FUCK id love a UI that works

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half the bosses tonight my cd manager just stops working 2Head

pallid bay
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bro installed CDMM 💀

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cooldown manager malware..

potent cargo
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better cd manager

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is fucked

pallid bay
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unhalted went on vacation

cloud lion
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am i crazy if u use CA and use eclipse before CA expire u get both eclipse for 15 sec

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somehow it happend now i cant enter eclipse before it expire

jaunty blaze
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you mean that you cant press CA if you got the double eclipse proc?

cloud lion
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looks like i should read all new talents

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i didnt check anything for 2-3 months just brainless pressing buttons and do reclears

jaunty blaze
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im just not really sure what you are asking because CA should always override eclipse even if its a double eclipse proc

fossil hemlock
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They just assumed that pressing eclipse before CA expired gave them double eclipse, not reading the talent "total eclipse"

jaunty blaze
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probably

cloud lion
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yes i didnt read talents at all

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All this addons change made me give up on wow till next xpac

fading blaze
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So with Balance, if I'm going Elune's Chosen, should I worry about Sunfire upkeep?

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It is free damage, but it isn't being augmented by anything in my toolkit.

craggy sonnet
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It gives you shooting stars.
Between that and its own damage, surely worth the single gcd to maintain

fading blaze
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Fair enough. I'm just glad I don't have to deal with Wrath anymore.

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I could handle it when Balance had the bar, but when it turned into "cast 2 move cast 2 move", I couldn't stand it.

thorny sentinel
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is there a way to sync an interface setup with a specific role ? Before pre patch my interface would auto swap to my healer mode when I switch spec but not anymore

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I mean vanilla Blizzard interface, made in edit mode

pseudo merlin
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There might be an addon that handles the auto swapping for you, seems like an extremely simple thing to accomplish

thorny sentinel
thorny sentinel
sweet vigil
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is time outside of eclipse just unavoidable? im so used to “ALWAYS BE IN ECLIPSE” gameplay to the point it feels like im doing something wrong when i have 0 ways to enter it for a moment

drifting nova
tulip schooner
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Is the only thing keep dots up and keeping eclipse up? So pretty much just solar wrath spam ..?

pseudo merlin
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you gotta spend ASP every now and then too

royal zenith
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did you see the AoC news @pseudo merlin

pseudo merlin
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Caught a glimpse have some vids lined up to see what's going on

royal zenith
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enjoy

pseudo merlin
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I've been calling it a scam for 10 years so idk

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I guess I was right

royal zenith
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yes of course

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LMAO

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ever since the "juice"

pseudo merlin
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yeah

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man's been a scammer his whole life

royal zenith
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lived 10 years on people spending money on fake cosmetics

pseudo merlin
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50 bucks for a bottle of carrot juice

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🙂

pseudo merlin
royal zenith
pseudo merlin
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It's sad because in the past few years I was actually becoming a believer

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Looked like we might get something cool

quiet drift
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I think i stopped believing the moment they showed first gameplay

drifting nova
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alarm bells went off when he said "I'm funding it myself"

pseudo merlin
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and characters gliding around

drifting nova
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huh, looks alot more rifty than I was expecting

quiet drift
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But the emergant player gameplay chills

drifting nova
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now just waiting for the lord of the rings mmo

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soon tm

pseudo merlin
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Banger game but then wow came out

drifting nova
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but amazon being fuckwits cancelled that last year

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played lotro again year or 2 ago when they did classic type servers

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still a fundamentally cool game

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just very outdated

pseudo merlin
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The only game I want rebooted or have get a part 2 is SWTOR

drifting nova
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but having everyone crammed into 1-60 was nice

pseudo merlin
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SWTOR is the best (MMO) game ever made and I am not sorry for saying it

drifting nova
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think i got to like 35 on reg servers (cap is 140 I think) only seeing like 2people

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landscape mode was cool, a type of heroic mode lemix had

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the world gets harder

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more xp

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more stuff

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but the way its made classic wow didnt really look or stay in the mid 00s

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lotro only ever really looked 90s at best

signal temple
lucid olive
drifting nova
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only 1 char hit 80

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then dipped

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unintetionally after the fact named my char a slur

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so unlucky

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what can you do

lucid olive
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unintentionally yeah sure

drifting nova
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I've had a few new chars over the years 4 mostly random letters

lucid olive
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i bet you unintentionally sing along every word in rap songs as well huh

drifting nova
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like Fawr

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used the same logic for this attempted new warrior, a dwarf

drifting nova
jade flume
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its impossible to listen to music without singing along to it

drifting nova
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did details lose the inspect

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for ilvl

lucid olive
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definitely some songs i can not sing along to

drifting nova
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SuspiciousChicken what songs

jade flume
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i mean, same, the trash ones i dont know lyrics to

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other than that

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im sending it

lucid olive
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get busy by sean paul

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cause i got 0 clue wtf hes saying

drifting nova
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I'll pop a 50 song on

lucid olive
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yeah you strike me as the guy who does 50 cent on karaoke night

drifting nova
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still the only cd I've ever owned

lucid olive
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which one

jade flume
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długość dźwięku samotności is my go to karaoke banger

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always works

drifting nova
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think it was get rich or die tryin

lucid olive
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I had 50's The Massacre album as a kid lmao

drifting nova
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but mightve been massacre, can find it in a min

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both cdsa re the ame just diff colours

lucid olive
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candy shop and stuff on it

drifting nova
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ye

lucid olive
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the best song on there is Gatman & Robbin

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that beat goes stupid

drifting nova
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oh gatman was the massacre

lucid olive
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ye

random night
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Why does Convoke cast Rejuv even when we're not specced into it.... Convoke is so stupid

lofty depot
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it casts regrowth and swiftmend too

random night
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This spell is doo doo

lofty depot
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and apparently tranquility

lucid olive
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it just casts druid spells

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the Rejuv it casts would also never be a Balance spell

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if you were in melee that would probably be a Shred or Rake

lofty depot
#

thrash

lucid olive
#

There are 2 pools of spells for Convoke; spells for your spec and spells from the other specs

jade flume
#

can they replace rejuvs and regrowths with a starsurge

lucid olive
#

they should

jade flume
#

maybe i could beat a brewmaster then

lofty depot
#

they cant replace them no, we would do more damage and we cant have that

random night
lucid olive
#

Not really

lofty depot
#

why would shred do more damage than wrath

#

thats not poggers

lucid olive
#

your feral spells do close to zero damage and your Regrowth casts help stack Blooming Infusion

#

Convoke in melee is probably an incredibly minor gain, but it's not worth sacrificing good placement in the fight for, if that makes sense?

#

like you're not gonna move into melee on pull for Nexus King when you have to move to the edge for the first tank combo anyway

pallid bay
lucid olive
#

are you a big sean paul knower

pallid bay
#

ofc

lucid olive
#

imagine young Suneson went to the school discotec dressed like a rasta going crazy as sean paul starts playing

pallid bay
#

sean paul is underappreciated

pseudo merlin
#

it's Shaun'da'paul say it right

stone cairn
#

I listened to one song by Sean Paul called "She Doesn't Mind" song is gas.

stone ledge
#

Only real improvements I’d say for convoke is being out of range of immune or dr’d adds aka mugzee drones on pull, nexus king during dragon amp

naive drum
#

Is it normal that moonkin feels so weak in the lower levels?

pseudo merlin
#

It's weak at all levels so probably

quaint wasp
#

Druid still no changes? 😞😞😞😞😞

pseudo merlin
#

Chat what the fuck happened to my potato???

pallid bay
#

what colors do i use..

pseudo merlin
#

not those...

#

none of them

quiet drift
#

Pissyellow Solar is looking mint

pallid bay
pseudo merlin
#

I aint paying for that buddy

#

fuck outta here with that pastel shit

normal pilot
#

why is it all pastel

pallid bay
#

what else should it be..

normal pilot
#

weak mellow dps like balance dps?

pallid bay
#

need my bar colors to scream

drifting nova
#

what typa potatoes do you have

native wharf
drifting nova
#

that come like shapes in a kids game

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

what do you mean what type

#

its a potato

drifting nova
#

not round

pseudo merlin
#

long

#

potatos arent round

drifting nova
#

square shape rectangle hole looking potato

pseudo merlin
#

square?

#

are you okayt

native wharf
drifting nova
#

butchered it

pseudo merlin
#

that's exactly my potato

#

only longer

drifting nova
#

lost half the potato with that massacre

pseudo merlin
#

brother i cut the peel not even 2mm in thickness

normal pilot
#

this is what gemini says you should use. see how it reflects the massive dps you will do

pseudo merlin
#

I love it

#

how much?

drifting nova
#

4 round potatoes

native wharf
drifting nova
#

actually wait

#

@pseudo merlin what are you making

#

depends on the level of massacre

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

was gonna make ca color aqua but im not a pastel color finder

wicked shuttle
pallid bay
void jacinth
#

@pallid bay I LOVE YOUR COLOUR PALETTE KING STAY STRONG

void jacinth
void jacinth
#

ok fuck your colour palette

#

pissyellow

lucid olive
lucid olive
#

and the foreground and background textures

pallid bay
#

gatekeeping everything

#

also

#

just change the colors

void jacinth
#

weakaura???

drifting nova
#

woah there, it's banned

#

straight to blizzard

#

you are DONE buddy

void jacinth
#

kåt in 4k

#

all my homies use nørskenauras

lofty depot
wicked shuttle
pallid bay
wicked shuttle
#

ya, i like that

pseudo merlin
drifting nova
#

when it clicks

#

you're not italian are you

pseudo merlin
normal pilot
#

looks like the third one is the best you don't want to argue with AI

vital hound
pallid bay
#

otherwise it cant be trusted..

normal pilot
pallid bay
#

no mistakes means no mistakes Check

pseudo merlin
#

the fuck is this

#

since when is this a thing you can do

craggy sonnet
pallid bay
#

we'll have to ask AI about that

minor anchor
#

This fluid form talent is so cringe, is it better than the real talent points like Honed Insticts or matted fur ?

craggy sonnet
#

You can use a tetradic or triadic complementary colors

#

Yup yup

craggy sonnet
#

If you think you don't need that, you can also take the 5%absorb when pressing barkskin

minor anchor
#

I understand, what i meant is more like isnt the 5% shield when I press Barkskin helping me more to kill the boss?

#

I will be clicking the 5% shield GG

lofty depot
#

one might increase ur dps

pallid bay
normal pilot
#

ai approved

pallid bay
#

maybe castbar should be bit less saturated

pseudo merlin
#

Fluid form is one of the biggest bangers blizzard ever made

lofty depot
#

the original fluid form >

#

this one beans

minor anchor
#

agreed, like how yucky is it that u cast the spell in human and only than shift

lofty depot
#

but nonetheless, still an increase when ur form swapping

stone cairn
orchid peak
#

What are y'all runing for ST sim damage? Or what are you actually getting for ST dummy damage?

pallid bay
#

sims dont work

minor anchor
#

in game damage meter dont work

orchid peak
#

Aight so I'm just pew pewing. Got it

naive drum
pseudo merlin
#

there's still like 6-8 weeks of tuning left but for now yeah

void jacinth
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
#

Say it with your chest

#

We shouldn't condone stuff like this

stone cairn
pseudo merlin
frank steeple
#

Ok so elunes chosen incarnation/eclipse removes starlord stacks now?

round field
#

every eclipse removes starlord stacks

lucid olive
#

read Starlord tooltip

frank steeple
#

So is it better to eclipse and drop 3 Starlord stacks or wait for them to fall before eclipse?

lucid olive
#

it doesn't matter

#

when your Eclipse runs out there is 5 seconds left on Starlord

#

you can use those 5 seconds building back AP for your next Eclipse

frank steeple
#

If you have 2 incarn and 2 eclipse charges you can go straight back in. But is it dps loss to wait and build astral or just force new eclipse and drop 3 stacks with ~5sec

round field
#

just remove starlord from ur buff tracker

#

and ignore it

#

ur overthinking

lucid olive
frank steeple
#

I mean min/maxing is basically the Definition of overthinking lol

#

Fair enough with sims. Wasn’t sure if we had data yet.

#

Another question. Is it better with elunes chosen hero tree to use wrath/star surge for single target while in incarn/double eclipse or just always use star fall even for single target and it has longer cast time and astral cost?

lucid olive
#

For EC you perma press Starfire

#

Starfall/Starsurge doesn't change

lofty depot
#

starfall has a longer cast time 👀

lucid olive
#

yeah he means Starfire

lofty depot
#

starfire has an astral cost?

lucid olive
#

probably playing diff language client so spell names get lost in translation

frank steeple
#

So even though Starfall has a longer cast time than wrath even only in double eclipse you still don’t press wrath to generate

craggy sonnet
# round field ur overthinking

i think its a very fair assumption that you are gonna play somewhat around the remaining starlord duration before going into the next eclipse

lucid olive
round field
#

Nah

#

Starlord is fake

lucid olive
#

Spell_Arcane_StarFire is not named Starfall

#

This is Starfall Starfall

frank steeple
#

Yes starfire I meant

#

So literally you just never use wrath, and only starsurge on free procs otherwise it’s starfire and starfall in EC

#

Even single target

lucid olive
#

You Starsurge on ST and Starfall on AoE

frank steeple
#

Just not wrath to generate then

lucid olive
#

The priority of Starsurge/Starfall doesn't change with Elune's Chosen

#

Yes

frank steeple
#

In double eclipse only I mean

#

Obviously not wrath during lunar

lucid olive
#

Yes

craggy sonnet
#

you get a crazy bonus to primary target for starfire in the EC talents

#

wrath does no dam

#

and it does not give you cdr

lofty depot
#

starfire more dam surely

#

starfire lower cd of foe.

#

foe increase ur damage

#

sooooooooooooooooooo

#

cast starfire

#

also read your hero talents

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
violet aspen
#

Is the Parapodia trinket simbait for M+ (especially when running with PUGs, so buff will run out often)

lucid olive
#

sims are not working currently for pre-patch

lofty depot
#
  1. there are no sims, so how are u getting baited
  2. its fine
lucid olive
#

any results you will see are most likely wrong

pseudo merlin
#

sims are real, never press eclipse, sim says it's dps loss

#

don't be gaslit

lofty depot
vital hound
livid zephyr
#

Is the stat squish the same as one or both of the previous squishes where damage proc trinkets are a lot better than stat trinkets all of a sudden?

lofty depot
#

that only happens because of tuning or missed procs

#

and there arent standards for it no

#

there were items even missed by the stat squish which "quickly" got fixed or nerfed

livid zephyr
#

Gotcha. Thank you.

pallid bay
drifting nova
#

why cast wrath

#

big mistake

vital hound
restive jolt
#

wait is this weakaura fork or cdm addon

lofty depot
#

weakaura is a cdm addon 🙂

restive jolt
#

well u got me there cap

pallid bay
#

idk if i should change pandemic glow to something else

vital hound
#

yellow glow

lofty depot
#

change the glow to be square and not curved corner

vital hound
#

with ants if poss

pallid bay
#

ants suck

#

bad onion

vital hound
pseudo merlin
#

Nah he actually went with the pastel

#

I dont understand any of this

#

but I hope you're happy

lofty depot
#

they were already pastel

pallid bay
#

ill prob revisit the colors..

#

but i'll not be picking anything u recommend ravec..

pseudo merlin
#

That's fine

#

Sometimes people make the wrong decisions

pallid bay
lucid olive
#

and you better do it!!

pallid bay
#

what do u want..

#

maybe icons should have some spacing..

glossy jungle
lucid olive
#

option to hide out of combat, in vehicle, in dragonriding UI, in travel form, option to anchor to any frame from fstack, built-in color picker for all bars, option to swap eclipse bar from left to right instead of right to left, adding ticks for starsurge/starfall in AP bar, options to center the buff icons

glossy jungle
#

love a good cook

lucid olive
#

oh and can it wipe my ass as well

pallid bay
#

all denied

lucid olive
#

unforch

vital hound
#

can it have a hekili type ui

#

just singular big icon in the middle of what to press next

lucid olive
true viper
#

can someone create a 11.2.7 private server

drifting nova
#

still looking for a bfa server

wet bolt
#

How is the new eclipse feeling?

lucid olive
#

I like it

drifting nova
#

balls

lucid olive
#

did 0 dmg all of reclear but that's not Eclipse's fault

wet bolt
#

I'll be keeping this forever.

drifting nova
#

skill issue

lofty depot
lofty depot
drifting nova
wet bolt
#

Is there significant downtime with the new eclipse? Like.. time outside of an eclipse?

drifting nova
#

yes

#

like 40%

wet bolt
#

That's weird.

lucid olive
#

More downtime than you used to have

#

It's not really that weird

lofty depot
lucid olive
#

Just forget that it's named Eclipse and look at this version as a completely new thing

drifting nova
#

I dont know if I even put wrath on my bar

lofty depot
#

eclipse is not longer a maintenance buff

lucid olive
#

It's like any other mini cooldown in the game

#

Like Storm, Earth and Fire for WW monk

drifting nova
wet bolt
#

Eclipse is now just a cd with 2 charges

#

Core gameplay hasn't changed I assume?

#

Apply dots. Build and spend

lucid olive
#

correct

loud kettle
#

yo did you ever figure this out

lucid olive
loud kettle
#

someone else

lucid olive
# wet bolt Core gameplay hasn't changed I assume?

You want to maximize your time in Eclipse on good globals, which can mean re-applying Sunfire/Moonfire early so you don't have to refresh during Eclipse and building up AP before entering Eclipse so you can get full benefit from your Moonkin_Boat Balance of All Things window etc

#

Which is basically the same as it's always been; you're just more in control of those windows now

loud kettle
#

nvm we figured it out

wet bolt
#

Or rather, they don't snapshot

#

Can cast before buff, press buff, and they will be buffed for the duration even though they were used before

lucid olive
#

They haven't snapshot for over a decade

wet bolt
#

Shows how much boomkin I play

lofty depot
#

or how much feral u used to play

wet bolt
#

I'm just a healer bored at work seeing what various spec communities think about changes.

drifting nova
#

I had more fun playing my ele sham doing twilight highlands rares for gear

wet bolt
#

Ele actually feels remarkably good for the first time in..
I don't even know how long

drifting nova
#

thought it was weird buffs kept refreshing tho idk

#

after getting hit

bold creek
#

anyone know of a way to macro eclipse into say like wrath or starfire? or is everyone just playing with it as its own button now

normal pilot
#

it's on the gcd, you can't macro

#

it would be a bad idea even if you could macro it

#

it's a cooldown. you don't want to macro a cooldown to your filler spell

dense steeple
elder remnant
dense steeple
#

im trying so hard to get a lily man and these are my keys every time

lucid olive
#

based

dense steeple
#

"YoU nEeD?" energy

#

deadass just dont have a trinket

lucid olive
#

are you liking devourer

dense steeple
#

its okay

#

i need capstone to make collapsing star worth it

#

otherwise its just a dead talent in keys

craggy sonnet
#

big update for arc ui

merry ibex
#

Oof I got a 86% on our dimmie reclear and I was 11th on the meters

#

I hope all our damage is hiding in the apex talents

craggy sonnet
#

surely

wicked shuttle
lofty depot
#

self destructed

wicked shuttle
craggy sonnet
#

fixed a lot of the little stuff that wasnt working it feels like.
dynamic aura groups work, centering of bars based on different talents work, the glows fit the icons now, aura swipes for mf / sf are not flickering in and out

#

now only needs dynamic width for aura bars and some way to add racials.
and twintop gotta get dynamic width working with it as well

loud kettle
#

Claude killing those bugs eh?

craggy sonnet
#

maybe

#

no clue if arc is purely vibing

loud kettle
#

I didnt know if it had any i just assume

lofty depot
#

clankers supporting other clankers

#

smh

merry ibex
craggy sonnet
#

unite

merry ibex
#

tons of features that just didnt work at all

#

is it better?

lofty depot
merry ibex
#

I mean it wasnt any intelligence on my part it just didnt work

#

I told it to do it a thing and it went

#

"no"

craggy sonnet
#

i mean

#

its better now

#

at least it does a lot of the things it didnt previously for me

#

how stable it is

#

no clue

merry ibex
#

I've been using tellmewhen

#

it seems to mostly work but Its also had problems

craggy sonnet
#

idk .. never really used it before.
tried it a bit after prepatch and the menu is shit and i dont know what actual use it has tbh

wicked shuttle
#

the first point of Total Eclipse is a lot better than the second one right

normal pilot
#

if you had to take a second point it wouldn't be total would it

lucid olive
#

new eclipse half eclipse and total eclipse

wicked shuttle
#

true

#

was just looking at the tree, and I think the 0 -> 10% total eclipse value is probably a decent amount more valuable than the 10 -> 20%

lucid olive
#

yeah maybe

#

since it's not a stacked deck does it really matter

#

its 50% regardless of what point you put in

#

you either proc or you dont

#

you proc on the throwaway rando eclipse you throw in between cooldowns to not overcap instead of the eclipse you're overlapping with treants

#

W

lofty depot
#

look at gamz using crit maff

#

procing total on non tree eclipse and i tilt

normal pilot
#

what if you proc on CA and get triple eclipse

lucid olive
#

call it absolute eclipse

#

man i was really pumping on fractillus tonight

#

i think i was using a staff without enchants cause i couldn't stand looking at the dagger and off-hand transmog anymore

lofty depot
normal pilot
#

no you can't proc twice at the same time there's an icd

sour rampart
#

anyone know how to make my cast bar bigger

lofty depot
#

i suppose depends on u using an addon or not :/

harsh herald
#

This is how I increase the size of my UI

sour rampart
#

but i cant click it

lucid olive
#

better cooldown manager i guess

sour rampart
#

dont have that addon

#

wait

#

i do

#

OH MY GOD

#

THANK YOU

#

ive been going nuts

nimble tangle
#

BCDM and CMC are so far the most maintained cooldown ADDON

lofty depot
#

well first

nimble tangle
#

I guess CDM control is gone, no more update

lofty depot
#

dragon spit

#

second.... use bcdm and cahnge the size :/

dense steeple
#

Cant believe all these non boomies keep coming in here and getting answers

lofty depot
#

did u try editing it in elv?

dense steeple
#

||keep up the great work larias we love you||

lofty depot
lucid olive
#

||i don't||

lofty depot
#

I dont

dense steeple
#

|| wtf gamz||

dense steeple
#

Im drinking peach coca cola

#

Im kinda mad about it

sour rampart
#

im fucking blind so i need a huge cast bar

#

close enough

dense steeple
#

High key though

#

Diggin devo

#

Dh not evoker

lucid olive
#

yeah i thought you meant evoker for a second

#

my god dev evoker is stinky spec

dense steeple
#

I just really like how it fits the niche of caster but gives me bm gameplay

lofty depot
dense steeple
#

Mastery haste so its just boomy but good

lucid olive
#

hey combat alert is useful

dense steeple
#

Its gonna go so hard next tier

lofty depot
#

gamz confirming how smart he is

dense steeple
#

Them get shot out back

lofty depot
#

if its useful, why is it on his auras

lucid olive
#

well he's special

lofty depot
#

dragon, classic

lucid olive
#

why do i have to press azure strike as evoker now

#

thats so cringe

sour rampart
#

dev evoker is qamazing

#

wtf

lucid olive
#

wrong

sour rampart
#

why are boomies yapping

dense steeple
#

You should try devodh larias

sour rampart
#

brain damage from being kicked down stairs

dense steeple
#

4 buttons. Big dam

lofty depot
#

WHY ARE U IN MY CHANNEL

#

ASKING WHY IM YAPPING

sour rampart
#

ARCTIC IM HELPING

dense steeple
#

"Your" channel

lofty depot
#

SPIT

lofty depot
sour rampart
#

oh i thought orange were the names we were supposed to ignore

dense steeple
#

Now I wonder where you got that garf

lofty depot
#

no thats silly people with silly font that make guides

dense steeple
#

Also ignore yellow names

lofty depot
sour rampart
#

im here all the time

lofty depot
#

ur here right before patch then afk

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

dont lie to me

lucid olive
#

try moving it

dense steeple
lofty depot
dense steeple
#

He shows up. He gives updates on the sick raider guide. Then hes gone til next tier

lofty depot
#

fuggn guy

sour rampart
#

but yeah

#

this is what i have on my combat text

lofty depot
#

wtf is that dogshit picture

dense steeple
#

Hang on

#

I'm interested in how he did it

sour rampart
lofty depot
#

with a lasso

lucid olive
#

where your kick icon is and stuff

sour rampart
#

wait

#

that looks bad

lucid olive
#

yeah idk about that one chief

sour rampart
dense steeple
lucid olive
#

is that the apple logo flipped

dense steeple
#

Handsome squidward ass cut

sour rampart
#

idk im just drawing squigglies

dense steeple
#

How

lucid olive
#

sharex innit

sour rampart
lucid olive
#

move, not remove