But this is a stupid minmax that you either bother with or you dont
#balance
craggy sonnet
Unless I don't understand what you are saying
craggy sonnet
Then explain
vale pebble
which is fine
craggy sonnet
No it's not. I want to understand the reason you defend it
vale pebble
And it's the same for CA
yea its the same as ca
craggy sonnet
Ftr, I was explaining it from the POV of it being changed to off gcd.
vale pebble
craggy sonnet
Yes that's what I'm saying you'd optimally do the same thing you apparently want to mitigate for ecl already for CA
I didn't play rdruid in SL fwiw
But I don't understand the argument
vale pebble
Yes that's what I'm saying you'd optimally do the same thing you apparently want...
yes
craggy sonnet
Why is this an issue
vale pebble
u want to instant before eclipse
but ur instants are
surge
or a redot
and how sunfire cycles
is u will have downtime if u always sunfore before eclipse
or u double sunfire
so its always ass
u wont always have an instant to fill the gap
craggy sonnet
I've actually never macrod that shit on a caster I think (only briefly for fdk)
But you can queue it after a casted spell as well, no?
lofty depot
What if we just always sunfire before eclipse cuz that shits beans
craggy sonnet
Legit, 95% of people don't care about losing 0.2s of their cooldown
lofty depot
Legit, 95% of people don't care about losing 0.2s of their cooldown
I'll make them care
vale pebble
95% of ppl wont notice it
craggy sonnet
I'll make them care
Do you macro CA?
vale pebble
Do you macro CA?
macro ca with what mate
lofty depot
I had a macro for starlord cancel + surge, does that count
lofty depot
But no, I don't have a ca + surge macro
vale pebble
it wont queue pot ca trinket surge every time
idk if it even queues the surge at all
if u macro everything
craggy sonnet
But isn't that what you are talking about regarding eclipse? If it wasn't on the gcd, you would have to macro it?
vale pebble
u cant macro it mate
im very sure when i had pot surge macro i had to put it on mousewheel
cause it wouldnt queue
cause the game is bad
thats why u used an instant before a pot or trinket
even though u would lose dmg on it
it was worth more to get ur .2s global in
than get 20% dmg on a surge 5s into ramp
its same concept
and most ppl were doing instant before buff
because they were told to do that
did everyone do it?
no
anyways i go drive if u want me to re explain it i can do it later
lucid olive
drive safe
craggy sonnet
Ok. So spell queueing is maybe fucked for macros including ogcd stuff.
But I still don't get why that issue would be exacerbated if eclipse were ogcd
Aight, if I remember I'll hit you up once you back
lofty depot
(he's not coming back)
quiet drift
craggy sonnet
It's actually slippery outside around here.
drifting nova
It's actually slippery outside around here.
drifting nova
sounds like an std
craggy sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/penguin-fall-trip-slippery-slip-gif-5155073
Damn, that belly turn actually impressive. Nimble as a cat or something
drifting nova
if you think about it why are cats not the goto government spy animal
lucid olive
if you think about it why are cats not the goto government spy animal
they're more suspicious looking than the pigeons
royal zenith
much to think
Lol oxymoron in your case
drifting nova
I dont do drugs
royal zenith
We can tell
drifting nova
When was the last time you thought about Rome
lucid olive
in history class a few months ago
drifting nova
hmm, interesting
lofty depot
in history class a few months ago
When me and gamz were talking about it in dms
State of azeroth, hmmm
stone cairn
Again?
mild chasm
Hello, been about 5 years since i played last and i tend to play balance again for higher Keys.
Boomy in a good state right now or how bad is it? 🙂
Best regards!
lofty depot
no... and meta for m+ doesnt get "figured out" til .5 patch. So youll know if its good or not during that run up
pseudo merlin
yo did they just bait us by saying "classic+ news in our jan 29th announcement" and then just yap about housing for 30 minutes
did this really happen
lucid olive
Hello, been about 5 years since i played last and i tend to play balance again f...
Gearing alt characters is a lot easier now than 5 years ago, so even if the spec isn't amazing there is no harm in playing it early in the season and then swapping to something else for high keys whenever the M+ meta gets figured out
lucid olive
if you know you know
pseudo merlin
know what?
pseudo merlin
Gamz probably doesnt know
royal zenith
real answers ONLY
pseudo merlin
wrong
lofty depot
lets fucking go
royal zenith
he knows
royal zenith
there are heathens out there, that would say "looking for group"
loud kettle
:letsfuckinggo:
sturdy pumice
mega delves announced and 1 boss raid between tiers
royal zenith
yeah it was a pretty trash stream
lofty depot
gamer >
royal zenith
labyrinth's look cool tho
loud kettle
Wonder how hard the bonus boss is gonna be
pseudo merlin
Wonder how hard the bonus boss is gonna be
uunaat
lofty depot
i mean its .7 so its for turbo boost gear surely
12.1 raid prob 7 or 8 bosses and the 12.1.5 is the "last boss"
lofty depot
theyre pushing the raid out 8 weeks before a new raid
drifting nova
else what's the point
F U N
lofty depot
while like half the CE guilds are still progging
royal zenith
!decor
loud kettle
!decor
pseudo merlin
!decor
lusty igloo
I think it’s a risky move with the mushroom raid on top of 3 raids. Past miniboss raid expansions haven’t been super well-received (Cata, BFA) compared with other xpacs. I think people may prefer longer, more challenging raids
lucid olive
12.0.7 raid is cool
lucid olive
you're long past done with prog by then anyway
round field
3x 300 pull bosses
lofty depot
trial of valor >.... Also in that case youre talking about a decade ago...
lusty igloo
trial of valor >.... Also in that case youre talking about a decade ago...
Trial of valor was cool and fit super well into the icecrown theme. Hoping everything fits together well for midnight, love the voidspire and ZA parts
jaunty blaze
2026
nimble tangle
Trial of valor? Is that back in wotlk?
jaunty blaze
which he meant
lofty depot
Well that's what he meant
lofty depot
Big
ripe slate
the 1 boss raids are definitely going to be piss easy loot pinatas that replace turbo boost
drifting nova
the 1 boss raids are definitely going to be piss easy loot pinatas that replace ...
laughs in uunat
quiet drift
*laughs in uunat*
They 100% dont want a uunat repeat
ripe slate
the second one is .5 not .7 because blizzcon'll delay the patch cycle or something but they want it out similar time relative to patch release
a midseason prog boss that is actually hard to will create havoc in their bottom line there's no way they didnt learn from CoS
lofty depot
I assume the .7 one is that the .5 one maybe, but it's also the last boss of that patch story so prob not
ripe slate
unless .1 raid itself is smaller than usual i think itll be another pushover for ilvl increases like the s1 .7 one
pseudo merlin
RWF gonna be a shitshow with the 1 boss raids
it's just gonne die before EU even goes up surely
it wont even be a race
ripe slate
yeah i expect there wont be any like world rank tracking on any site for those lol
prob wont even be ptr tested
lusty igloo
Well that's what he meant
Hehe thank you
jaunty blaze
because they dont have housing
massive L
unlucky teaser
having to wait until blizzcon
jaunty blaze
its in september or so
drifting nova
surely blizzcon they release the big content for midnight
sturdy pumice
they are playing a dead game already - they can wait a few more months
pseudo merlin
https://x.com/i/status/2016924230441374037
They literally said that we would get classic news did they not?
Holly appears on screen
everyone hype
and she starts yapping about housing and chinese people
jaunty blaze
they had some special wotlk classic mode on chinese servers
wonder if thats what they want to announce
pseudo merlin
Nah
jaunty blaze
would be kinda wack anyway
pseudo merlin
They made it a point to talk about differences between regions
That doesnt sound like they want that stuff here
lofty depot
They literally said that we would get classic news did they not?
That's what they're all yapping about
Granted IDC about classic or classic+
nimble tangle
Titanforge
That’s what it is called
Typical Chinese special edition
Glad I haven’t played any Chinese wow since 2008
narrow aurora
Dumb question... is moonkin crit aura just dead and gone in pre-patch/midnight?
sour rampart
@lofty depot now you never have to read, somebody made an add-on that automatically imports from the latest updated sheet
So you just need to install the add-on and check when you're done with something
pseudo merlin
Dumb question... is moonkin crit aura just dead and gone in pre-patch/midnight?
wasnt that just a pvp talent
lofty depot
So you just need to install the add-on and check when you're done with something
I saw
But then again, downloading another addon :/
sour rampart
Listen
It's just that version of World of Warcraft
You have 137 add-ons to do what one could do before
lofty depot
I mean, "do the content"... Big checklist
mild chasm
Gearing alt characters is a lot easier now than 5 years ago, so even if the spec...
Thank you very much
drifting nova
jaunty blaze
why is john travolta in your purse
drifting nova
why is he not in yours
jaunty blaze
how can he be in 2 places at once
fossil hemlock
You have 137 add-ons to do what one could do before
Distinguishing between having 1 addon + 400 WAs, or 400 addons is so weird
I don't get it
lofty depot
Distinguishing between having 1 addon + 400 WAs, or 400 addons is so weird
The difference in customization for starters... Then u add the availability of things to track, the ease of editing settings, and the back log of related weakauras that could be used for out of combat uses
fossil hemlock
The difference in customization for starters... Then u add the availability of t...
The customization has nothing to do with addons vs WA, that's part of the limiting of addons in the first place
It's important to separate what causes what
lofty depot
So they change customization u agree, ok
fossil hemlock
So they change customization u agree, ok
They did, but that's not related to having 400 WAs or 400 addons
It's entirely down to WA devs saying "fuck it, kick rocks"
polar linden
the damage is quite terrible but the gameplay is quite fun according to me, do we believe in a buff in midnight?
fossil hemlock
Don't blame blizz for WA devs stopping their deving
normal pilot
ya that's a crazy take
sour rampart
the damage is quite terrible but the gameplay is quite fun according to me, do w...
This is fine
polar linden
This is fine
is that st?
normal pilot
rather naive about the complete destructive nature of what blizz did
and the gigantic waste of time it's put on every addon dev
lofty depot
Just not knowing how the changes effected it
fossil hemlock
If WAs still existed, do you think you would have 400 addons instead of WAs?
lofty depot
Yes
normal pilot
WAs have a standardized base UX to build off of
comparing multiple addons to multiple WA, WAs are significantly better
lofty depot
the same thing will happen, there's a ton of stuff people are trying to create and or customize then eventually one addon will mass everything together that is good from them
polar linden
one good thing with hte addon purge is that my framerate is finally stable after 10 years of weird frame rate issues
narrow aurora
wasnt that just a pvp talent
At some point it was just an aura moonkin form always provided. I'm guessing it's just gone... not sure when that happened
lofty depot
But there's people with good addons that then don't have every customization I want and have to go find simple parts from it and turn off the rest
fossil hemlock
At some point it was just an aura moonkin form always provided. I'm guessing it'...
Decades ago
lofty depot
Rewriting all of those customizations after they changed takes time
Weakauras wouldn't have all of it either if they didnt stop
narrow aurora
Decades ago
That's too bad. Would bring nice synergy to caster comps
lofty depot
one good thing with hte addon purge is that my framerate is finally stable after...
Have u considered deleting ur addons/wtf folder every patch
polar linden
Have u considered deleting ur addons/wtf folder every patch
are you a madman? an actuial maniac? Re-do my ui every patch? psychopath
lunar ingot
am i missing something or is meteor storm (the choice node with aetherial kindling) just straight garbage?
lofty depot
Why do u think it's garbage
lunar ingot
it doesnt increase my dmg
drifting nova
can you read
polar linden
I think arctic just loves to argue with everyone, everytime I see him in here he's arguing with someone
lunar ingot
SF still deals the same dmg and costs the same
lofty depot
It would increase it if there were a bunch of shitter adds that died in 3 seconds and not 8
drifting nova
so thats ano
lunar ingot
many such cases
drifting nova
covid education coming in hot
lofty depot
It also, increases ur damage if u were to press starfall with 4s of eclipse left
pseudo merlin
I think arctic just loves to argue with everyone, everytime I see him in here he...
I think he's just a socially awkward nerd that can’t give a straight answer without being condescending.
lofty depot
I think arctic just loves to argue with everyone, everytime I see him in here he...
Yes, but I also reset my UI every patch
Delete old files
polar linden
if blizzard dont do it for me it's not worth doing 
zealous willow
Could delete the data folder upon releases as well
polar linden
huge difference between those two statements, I updated and removed old WA's every major patch
lofty depot
Could delete the data folder upon releases as well
Idk I have a notepad for it, it's like wtf/cache and something
polar linden
I'm not sure WA caused my frame rate issue but wow is SUPER smooth now for me
drifting nova
Idk I have a notepad for it, it's like wtf/cache and something
careful there with the notepad
polar linden
and it haven't been since wotlk
lofty depot
I'm not sure WA caused my frame rate issue but wow is SUPER smooth now for me
Ud be wrong but sure
pseudo merlin
opinions can be wrong
drifting nova
that's wrong
zealous willow
Your data folder is different then the WTF and such. You'll probably find several gigs of free space
pseudo merlin
that's wrong
see, opinions can be wrong
lofty depot
Delete weakauras bet ur frames go up
drifting nova
see, opinions can be wrong
see, opinions can be wrong
pseudo merlin
drifting nova
lucid olive
you should fully reinstall your game on an expansion patch anyway
just good habit to do if you care about performance
polar linden
you should rebuild your pc bottom up every wednesday reset
drifting nova
I do one better
polar linden
make sure it's crisp
drifting nova
I do it daily
polar linden
I do it daily
gotta keep those frames go skrrr
zealous willow
I mean. The data gets heavily duplicated and riddled with redundant files pretty much every major patch
So deleted and rebuilding the data folder will give you just what's relevant just don't do it right before you plan to play
Gamz and artic I perceive just take it one step further with the UI stuff
lucid olive
Gamz and artic I perceive just take it one step further with the UI stuff
idk i have mr elvui in my guild so i just mindlessly do what he says
amen
zealous willow
Haha fair enough. That's privilege brother
lucid olive
you think your game runs smooth
then you look at luckyone stream and see 100 fps on 30 man heroic raid on Soul Hunters
lofty depot
Gamer
drifting nova
before I bother looking
lofty depot
Imagine getting frames heroic week
drifting nova
are there actual addons for nameplates anymore or
vapid anvil
Did balance get nerfed this morning on beta?0
drifting nova
all broke
polar linden
are there actual addons for nameplates anymore or
platynator goes skrr
lucid olive
are there actual addons for nameplates anymore or
yes
platynator and plater are the popular ones
lofty depot
Did balance get nerfed this morning on beta?0
No why
lucid olive
with profiles on wago
zealous willow
I'm running on a decade year old rig. I'm not expecting large fps haha just consistent would be nice
lucid olive
Because of this
tooltip change
normal pilot
you really should not be looking at wowhead for accurate changes
the site's not made for you to look for data updates
lofty depot
When are the gastank patch notes gonna be posted?
He tells us secret changes blue notes never say
Fake blue note says 6% when really it 5.7
normal pilot
not today it's phrecia league
jaunty blaze
just vibe it out
plucky valley
you should fully reinstall your game on an expansion patch anyway
i legit never knew this
normal pilot
you don't need sims anyways just test on dummy with one button
normal pilot
nothing really if a search didn't show up any for you
tettles might have some vods on twitch
lofty depot
Gamz did few
But uhh, boomkin isn't exactly good so why play something u don't enjoy
jade flume
bamkin pipes
lofty depot
bamkin pipes
Log on and stream a key
plucky valley
floral quartz
anyone attempt Tindral on prepatch for the fire form drop?
fossil hemlock
anyone attempt Tindral on prepatch for the fire form drop?
Amirdrassil is a joke. Can't easily solo it yet, but 2 and above should be easy
lucid olive
3manned mythic amirdrassil with some guildies in season 3
surely they made it easier now with the squish
fyrakk definitely the worst one though if you dont have dam to just kill him
floral quartz
Gotcha. So im sure it wont be hard to find others running. Thanks guys.
lucid olive
for the fire form you can just queue LFR or something for it
thats easily soloable
unless you mean the bird then you have to kill mythic fyrakk i think
floral quartz
Does doing higher difficulties not increase drop rate?
lucid olive
no
floral quartz
oh. sick. Thanks!
lucid olive
i also think the fire form is just 1 try a week regardless of difficulty
if i remember correctly
pseudo merlin
no you do all diffies
I could solo everything up to mythic fire man last tier I think
so go solo l/n/h and get a small group for mythic
jade flume
Log on and stream a key
i dont do that shit type shit
loud kettle
anyone else's beta client crashing perma?
reduce how many friends u have bestie
sudden marsh
reduce how many friends u have bestie
😄
vital hound
Dam, we're not getting Sims for midnight
i have sims
nimble tangle
Anyone else experiencing lag spikes in dornogal
Especially flying to a new position and loading npc and players
lofty depot
Lag..... In the main city......
native rune
hey, any know how to turn off enemy player debuffs on my target, using plater, cant find any option to turn off 🙁
vital hound
loud kettle
very interesting
delicate perch
hey, any know how to turn off enemy player debuffs on my target, using plater, c...
Why would you turn them off? I think you’re missing some actually
loud kettle
buff settings -> Show Auras Casted by You is my guess
lucid olive
check blizzard nameplate settings
delicate perch
Enable that again right now, all of those are important
lofty depot
Yea what if u have 4 shamans and only see 3 flame shocks
U know 1 isnt doing their part 
lucid olive
You're talented into 
Lunar Calling
loud kettle
Lunar Calling claims another
eager hinge
Right, it was a talent, nevermind
loud kettle
now gamz just said that out of nowhere ):
lucid olive
didnt have to delete the question 🙁
modern totem
You're talented into <:Ability_Druid_CresentBurn:1465093238162460672> Lunar Call...
i dabble with balance here and there. Is this talent just broken or?
lofty depot
working as intented and isnt "OP", so no not broken
is dreamgrove gonna become an Abassador Community 👀
vital hound
wtf is that
lofty depot
wtf is that
jaunty blaze
Surely
lofty depot
lol doubt
lofty depot
do we get paid
dense stream
Silly questions but is there a way to track my AP
lofty depot
your default nameplate does it, but u dont see the number
lucid olive
addons
lofty depot
otherwise, theres addons
dense stream
your default nameplate does it, but u dont see the number
Yes ofc I know that
lucid olive
senseis class resource bar or twintops
dense stream
Ah okay addons
lucid olive
most popular ones
lofty depot
what he means is twintops or bcdm
dense stream
Y usually all the weak auras had it
lucid olive
all your weakauras are now addons
dense stream
Fair enough 😂
Blizz zzZZ
I just thought something like AP should be on their tracking thing
Silly me for thinking blizzard can do anything 😩
lofty depot
u forget like 90% of the playerbase doesnt need to track things
theyre in their house making cool designs
dense stream
u forget like 90% of the playerbase doesnt need to track things
Ig ye 😂
exotic perch
https://www.wowhead.com/news/find-your-community-with-the-wow-ambassadors-progra...
its women in warcraft reskinned
taking pointers from all the addon developers right now
lofty depot
but it says "access to exclusive events"
meager storm
im so back
modern totem
why is balance's dps sooo low in prepatch m+? I know its prepatch but the damage seems crazy low
modern totem
bc why can like every other dps do 60-70k overalls
lofty depot
because classes arent balanced around their prepatch capabilities
(it doesnt get better on beta)
potent cargo
https://www.wowhead.com/news/find-your-community-with-the-wow-ambassadors-progra...
I should be an ambassador
representative
lucid olive
bc why can like every other dps do 60-70k overalls
meager storm
https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722
well we know whom not to nominate
W
pseudo merlin
buff settings -> Show Auras Casted by You is my guess
oh god what addon is this
loud kettle
oh god what addon is this
plater?
pseudo merlin
oof
void jacinth
https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722
6T7T
pseudo merlin
mild chasm
all good, we get a massive buff before raid like venthyr times and we are back
yes please 😄
jaunty blaze
The only buff will be mark of the wild you provide for the real classes
glacial reef
aight have yall bitched enough at blizzard yet, is boomie good again or am i shelving my druid
lofty depot
no, druid ded
lucid olive
they can
lofty depot
wide vale
Oh
wide vale
Ssssh I can can totally read
Thanks xc
The cd manager was a bit misleading ig, my bad
Thank you!
lofty depot
why are we tracking starfall
wide vale
Idk to be honest :( it was just there
I'm a dummy lol sorry
I thought I was tracking it because it couldn't overlap xc
lofty depot
tbf, theres people either copying strings or placing them
but tracking like wrath, starfire, surge, starfall.
delicate perch
why are we tracking starfall
Yeah track the other stuff like that guy before
lofty depot
Yeah track the other stuff like that guy before
locken
nimble tangle
hexed nacelle
@craggy sonnet I found an addon unlike the rest, that arctic might like, called CooldownManagerInfinite
lofty depot
does it allow u to add items/trinkets to those extra bars
think this guy has to be banned cuz hes using the personal resource bar
nimble tangle
hexed nacelle
it's minimalist. It looks like it can give you the static placement though
craggy sonnet
<@140589769158688769> I found an addon unlike the rest, that arctic might like, ...
i tested it like first day of the patch
hexed nacelle
ah ok. have you found something better?
craggy sonnet
it does give you custom placement if thats all you are after
glossy jungle
think this guy has to be banned cuz hes using the personal resource bar
yo i need that. Is it buggy as shit?
lofty depot
idk
craggy sonnet
i think it was fine as long as you dont have another addon trying to center the buffs or whatever
cooldown manager control also lets you override the position of stuff
hexed nacelle
I have that on my list but I read someone was having issues with it disappearing
craggy sonnet
i have not had it disappear on me
but you can add your trinket to the essential group
and i have unitframes anchored to it
and sometimes it bugs out for a sec, to center the bar back to where it would be without that extra icon
but if you just want to place static buffs, CMI could be decent (i have not extensively tested how buggy it is)
you can not have just a few of your icons in there and the rest in a dynamic group tho
thats gonna become a mess
hexed nacelle
I'm having issues with bcdm not staying in the same place and it made me want to find an alternative
lofty depot
stop trying to move things in edit mode
craggy sonnet
i think I would mostly want a blend between ActionBarsEnhanced and Cooldown Manager Control
or well .. arc i guess if it would remotely be stable
hexed nacelle
which features of ABE do you find important?
void jacinth
freeing the slaves was big
craggy sonnet
it lets you customize a lot of the look of the icons / swipes / glows. (funnily missing the most important one to me - pandemic glow)
you can add however many custom groups you want and they do parse active auras if its also in your cdm.
you can make them coherent with your action bars if you care for that at all.
you also get a decent cast bar (obv can get that elsewhere too)
and what lud said
and the menu looks pretty neat
but by no means "perfect"
stone cairn
freeing the slaves was big
void jacinth
<:vix_giggle:1280361432344432751>
omg i recognize this fox from my childhood
void jacinth
i loved this movie
void jacinth
bolivia
stone cairn
That's very 🇧🇴 of you to say
delicate mica
what are people using for prepatch m+ elunes or keeper?
stone ledge
same as b4 prepatch
vapid anvil
How does lunar work on beta? do I have to cast wraith or starfire first then click it?
lofty depot
u ahve to press starfire for eclipse to change to lunar
because eclipse defaults to solar.... but nonetheless..... you then press the eclipse button to get into it
(we do not click)
nimble tangle
I click brez actually
Now vhudo is dead, I have to use shitty blizzard party frame
And bind another special key to quick click brez on party frame
loud kettle
clicking is when you click the raid frame/target and then click the spell on ur action bar
click-casting which is what i assume you used vuhdo for before can be done through blizzard default, or just by using either clique/clicked addon
If its extra mouse button though gotta go the addon route
but left click/right click yea blizz default has that feature
loud kettle
Purple next
craggy sonnet
Soma, did you hit your head and forget the past few months?
loud kettle
Then we unseat xan
dense steeple
Wasnt there a feral who sits in here who was orange
I thought it was them
I mightve hit my head
Here have a picture of my dog and his canine-oli for his birthday today
lucid olive
Then we unseat xan
dense steeple
Purple next
I applied for purple once but then deux got it instead because hes more power hungry
And he already quit
loud kettle
I thought it was them
It was but I also got promoted to green forever ago
September of last year
vapid anvil
Is there a guide somewhere for how to play boomie in midnight?
lofty depot
we dont know how to play boomkin in midnight yet
vapid anvil
Does anyone know what addon this guy has that is tracking the remaining timer on his dots that are on this targets?
loud kettle
just looks like base cooldown manager to be honest
dense steeple
Yeah thats standard. I know because I also use it
loud kettle
Player/target frame looks like unhalted
And cast bar
Party frames are default
Nameplates probably default too
vapid anvil
just looks like base cooldown manager to be honest
I I love you and blizzard
lofty depot
why are u tracking asp
lofty depot
not tracking something actually useful
delicate perch
I applied for purple once but then deux got it instead because hes more power h...
how are you still orange
loud kettle
im holding soma back
delicate perch
no he should be white named
lofty depot
no he should be white named <:OMEGAKEKW:1267917905840836690>
thats crazy
soma nice guy
lofty depot
delicate perch
nicest Australian award (VERY low bar)
vital hound
LOL
glossy jungle
I vote @potent cargo for nicest NZ'er
potent cargo
true n real
winter sundial
@lofty depot did the dev buff go out yet
lofty depot
dev buff... hmmm maybe if our dev got buff maybe we would get buffed
icy beacon
@lofty depot ?
lofty depot
whatttttttttt
sinful lance
Heya! 🙂 Is there a way to change platynator healthbar color if enemy is dotted?
ornate girder
i dont believe so
lofty depot
no
lofty depot
...vault key
nimble tangle
yes, i am very bored
icy beacon
Heya! 🙂 Is there a way to change platynator healthbar color if enemy is dotted?
arctic told me hes developing the technology to make this happen, pretty smart guy, i think he should have it ready by the new xpac
lofty depot
fake news
lofty depot
skill issue
nimble tangle
icy beacon
arctic doesnt see color\
delicate perch
...vault key
gray pelican
So is Boomie rework every expansion a bug?
royal zenith
wut
if your question is if there's gonna be a bug every patch/rework/expansion then: yes
Always.
vale pebble
if your question is if there's gonna be a bug every patch/rework/expansion then:...
no mate
hes trying to be funny saying moonkin gets a rework every xpac
gray pelican
Sry I'm new to Boomie and thought the meme is that they get reworked every xpac
livid jay
massive rework yes
vale pebble
Sry I'm new to Boomie and thought the meme is that they get reworked every xpac
ye its ok guy above dense 🫄
🦣
and old
gray pelican
Are we feeling as bad as feral rn? Play style wise
vale pebble
no its goog
gray pelican
Ayyyy
?
nimble tangle
anyone has screenshot of default blizzard CDM icons sizes?
muted citrus
anyone has screenshot of default blizzard CDM icons sizes?
for what purpose
vale pebble
https://klipy.com/gifs/bosnov-67
delicate perch
anyone has screenshot of default blizzard CDM icons sizes?
yeah but I'm paywalling it
nimble tangle
for what purpose
i think the addons i used have completely messed up blizzard CDM default utility, essential bars icon sizes
probably i have to delete whole WTF folders to restore back
brittle lynx
It looks like all other classes will be pushing us to the end of dmg meters again 😄 Maybe we will have better gear scaling for future, but start of expansion will be hard for us
brittle lynx
Yes, but it is every tier like that, it sucks to be one of the worst dps at start of every tier 😄
brittle lynx
Golden times
royal zenith
and if it scales too hard, you get nerfed
cause op
so in the end
scaling irrelevant!!
but at least you will have more haste 1 year time...
round field
no its goog
u dont even play boomie
vale pebble
u dont even play boomie
ragebait?
round field
fact
livid jay
peak
minor anchor
Ive been liking the changes more with each Target dummy session / raid mount farm I do
round field
"changes"
its cope
you got fed one little candy bar next to the 10 buckets of dirt
wake up sheeple
delicate perch
delicate perch
Ive been liking the changes more with each Target dummy session / raid mount far...
you're meant to legally have #ad whenever you're paid to do something
crude cargo
#ad i love eating grass
minor anchor
I like having the little downtimes between eclipses where i assume its optimal to refresh your dots
and than entering a well setup, both dots above 15, 3 ss eclipse that procs into being both
My god
pseudo merlin
anyone has screenshot of default blizzard CDM icons sizes?
im confused?
press disable all addons, reload, done?
craggy sonnet
he's saying the addons messed with some cvars or whatever
pseudo merlin
ah
quiet drift
I also started seeing damage numbers randomly last night
craggy sonnet
yes
craggy sonnet
they built-in a new set of floating combat text cvars
quiet drift
Awesome
craggy sonnet
because people have apparently nuked theiers over the years
pseudo merlin
craggy sonnet
and now that the addons all dont work anymore
craggy sonnet
they (the players using the addons) have no reasonable way to get back to defaults
quiet drift
W changes
craggy sonnet
so they ported it over to that 2nd set or whatever
pseudo merlin
or delete wtf?
craggy sonnet
btw (the guy updated the addon to allow selectively disabling now and promoted it in the uidev cord)
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/wills-cdm
quiet drift
Might need to get ltp back
craggy sonnet
surely useful for someone
ltp legit does nothing other than maybe something to chat that eqol doesnt do
no?
craggy sonnet
the what?
quiet drift
Green numbers pop on ur unitframe
craggy sonnet
yeah
quiet drift
And the big ass rested animation
craggy sonnet
im guessing ltp also wont be able to right now before updates
quiet drift
Yeye
craggy sonnet
because its probably bound to that new set of cvars
quiet drift
Not playing the game till wed anyways
craggy sonnet
and if its back, i think AIO does it surely
craggy sonnet
Not playing the game till wed anyways
but you gotta farm rares in twilight highlands
quiet drift
pseudo merlin
did you play your 50 games of tic tac toe yet?
drifting nova
woe will come back at 80 right
jaunty blaze
You're already 80 and it's not here
minor anchor
He means 90 and I dont think so
jaunty blaze
You get a instant starfire or wrath cast upon entering eclipse tho
Take it or leave it
pseudo merlin
https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341
you should just stop speaking permanently, just to be safe
drifting nova
you should just stop speaking permanently, just to be safe
toxic and wrong
hm is norm dam atm
pseudo merlin
chat how many people think that kekkers should be perma muted?
spice roost
+1
pseudo merlin
+1
quiet drift
<@151416576321650688>did u see all the logs got nuked
Entire guild got nuked 😭
maiden pasture
celest laurel
has anyone have a moonkin form tracker? the amount of time that i just dont change form after use HotW its..
lucid prism
soooo... are we cooked in raid then for midnight?
slender island
has anyone have a moonkin form tracker? the amount of time that i just dont chan...
consider taking the fluid form talent so you go back into chicken when you cast wrath / starfire?
dense steeple
no he should be white named <:OMEGAKEKW:1267917905840836690>
Wtf thats toxic this is why you cant be an ambassador
pseudo merlin
soooo... are we cooked in raid then for midnight?
yes
dense steeple
chat how many people think that kekkers should be perma muted?
Being orange doubles my vote so +2
pseudo merlin
🤝
pallid bay
soooo... are we cooked in raid then for midnight?
calm down felipe, there's tuning to be done!
quiet drift
maiden pasture
ember oxide
funnily enough its just weapon enchants that caused the issues and not my baseline 45% haste due to mop enchants
twin lotus
rich jewel
Dont check chickens soul hunter
eager raft
calm down felipe, there's tuning to be done!
Thanks for talking us down off the ledge
lucid prism
calm down felipe, there's tuning to be done!
that's cope i fear, didn't they say they're not making any more changes lol
round field
that's cope i fear, didn't they say they're not making any more changes lol
tuning != changes
dire osprey
lofty depot
that's cope i fear, didn't they say they're not making any more changes lol
That's not what that means
pseudo merlin
huh when did they say that
pseudo merlin
they gave UH a new talent like 2 days ago too
lofty depot
Yea but they're cool
pseudo merlin
but yeah just not a complete spec redesign
lofty depot
Change and unchanged hpal
pseudo merlin
yup also fairly major changes but you could file all of them under tuning
lofty depot
Then again we got "major changes" all the way up to like the week before patch
warm current
Lord please just take eclipse off the GCD and I'll be happy 😛
lofty depot
They're not going to
warm current
I know. Or at best they'll change it in season 2. This has the makings of another DF stellar flare moment
lofty depot
What flare moment
drifting nova
rather have stellar flare
lofty depot
Flare was good in df
drifting nova
over a half gcd eclipse
lofty depot
Then they nerfed it cuz children complained
warm current
Stellar flare "could" be good but it wasn't fun for the majority of boomkins, that's why it became a choice node with smolder
lucid olive
i love makin shit up
lofty depot
That's not what happened
And smolder wasn't picked over flare til later after a nerf
drifting nova
sf was giga dog vibes wise
nova ocean
The problem with flare was they couldn't manage to tune it to be good on St and not aoe
lucid olive
The problem with flare was they couldn't manage to tune it to be good on St and ...
not true
nova ocean
Keeping it on three bosses was not fun
drifting nova
even on the fight is was good on, the 4council in voti
manic plume
a whole extra dot to consider was too much mental load
nova ocean
Or 4 bosses ya
manic plume
I lack the ridges on my cranium
lucid olive
man we're really just mouth diarrheaing opinions as facts arent we
drifting nova
a dog ability can look good if it does dam
lofty depot
Tragic takes
drifting nova
tragic ability
nova ocean
If they wanted us to keep it up on all targets they needed it to be refreshed with starfall
lofty depot
I disagree
nova ocean
Yet the hardest dot to maintain and spread wasn't
drifting nova
it being a cast was already a vibe off
warm current
I wouldn't say it was the extra dot, it was that it was casted (not instant), only hit one target, and had a shortish duration. Blizz tried to make us a rot and dot class and boomies didn;t like it
lofty depot
Then it just spamming wrath and Starfall where's the gameplay
lucid olive
"we cant give them a 3rd dot"
wild mushroom
nova ocean
Ur free to ur bad take arctic stellar flare was a bad spell no way around it
eager raft
Flare was a great ability when it procd stars
drifting nova
wild mushroom
passive, aintnohwei youve ever played active mushrooms
lucid olive
Flare was a great ability when it procd stars
flare
eager raft
Yea
lofty depot
I wouldn't say it was the extra dot, it was that it was casted (not instant), on...
Flare didn't have a short duration
eager raft
That’s what I meant to say
warm current
The vast majority of boomies didn't like the gameplay and so smolder got added and then became the go to talent. Blizz almost forced that choice by nerfing stellar flare
fossil hemlock
Flare was like 26 seconds or something dumb right
eager raft
I don’t think I’ve ever had an issue with pressing flare when it’s takeable
Good button if you ask me
drifting nova
it still blows my mind there isnt some double dipping on dots with incarnation up
warm current
Flare didn't have a short duration
I said shortish, and that's relative to having to cast it and only hitting one target. for that amount of work it should have had a much longer duration
lofty depot
They didn't almost force it, they nerfed flare what
fossil hemlock
it still blows my mind there isnt some double dipping on dots with incarnation u...
I bet many things do
lucid olive
Ur free to ur bad take arctic stellar flare was a bad spell no way around it
semi agree that it was a bad spell, hard disagree that "they couldn't tune it to be good on ST and not AoE" (it was the best choice on ST but not AoE for entirety of Nerubar and half of Undermine) and "if they wanted us to keep it up they needed it to be refreshed with Starfall" (this doesn't make any sense)
having Flare in a choice node with a Smolder-enabler is fine
Most of the tuning issues with Stellar Flare came because of Waning Twilight
lofty depot
Now there's no need for it cuz of waning yes
lucid olive
In fact all the tuning issues with Smolder, Flare and Mushrooms are because of Waning Twilight
warm current
semi agree that it was a bad spell, hard disagree that "they couldn't tune it to...
If they could have reworked it to hit more than one target or make it easier to refresh it would have been fine. or make it instant cast or something.
eager raft
eager raft
Waning doesn’t exist
lofty depot
Why would u have 3 dots and all be instant
lucid olive
If they could have reworked it to hit more than one target or make it easier to ...
"yeah this spell would have been fine if it was any other spell"
eager raft
kekkers with the 6 month old take
drifting nova
same logic can be applied to why have 2
lucid olive
nice man
drifting nova
insect swarm had a much greater play difference vs moon/sun
eager raft
The season where moonkin was most fun was also the season where we pressed flare the most
Coincidence???
drifting nova
voti?
eager raft
Yep
lofty depot
Coincidence???
The frogs didn't like that season
lucid olive
outside of the council fight
thats the only fight you did on LFR i take it
warm current
Why would u have 3 dots and all be instant
That's not what I said. I said it could be instant. OR. it could hit multiple targets. OR. it could be easier to refresh. any of those would have been better but not all were needed to make it better
drifting nova
myth ackshullly
drifting nova
put some respec on it
theres like 40different ways X action can modify X ability
instead of just having 3 dots
eager raft
Yeah the 40 different multipliers and modifiers was really fun in TWW
We all loved that so much we stopped playing the spec
nova ocean
In fact all the tuning issues with Smolder, Flare and Mushrooms are because of W...
This
drifting nova
hell, why not a combined dot IN stellar flare
warm current
didn't orbital strike or some ability apply all the dots in DF? It wasn't widely taken if memory serves but it did apply everything
drifting nova
having to have three dots BE three dots
nova ocean
They wanted us to be some weird aff lock hybrid thing
drifting nova
I still dont know why or how crash lightning comes up when playing ele sham
but it does
drifting nova
for the longest time I've just wanted moonfire and sunfire
to have THE SAME RANGE
thats it
too hard ig
lucid olive
starfall is still here
pseudo merlin
drifting nova
1 step forward (I dont even know what this hypothetical step forwrad is)
2 steps back
pseudo merlin
YOU KNOW WHAT STFL MEANS
pseudo merlin
SF Starfall
STF Starfire
SUF Sunfire
STFL Stellar Flare
drifting nova
you call dps dd dont you
drifting nova
eastern europe no?
drifting nova
yes they do
pseudo merlin
and greeks
drifting nova
90% poles
pseudo merlin
POLES ARE NOT EASTERN EUROPEANS
lofty depot
That's not what I said. I said it could be instant. OR. it could hit multiple ta...
I think it would've been fine if they added a CD to it, did more damage, and had its shs proc back.
fossil hemlock
SF Starfall
STF Starfire
SUF Sunfire
STFL Stellar Flare
SF Starfall
SF Starfire
SF Sunfire
SF Stellar Flare
drifting nova
POLES ARE NOT EASTERN EUROPEANS
BROTHER DO YOU NEED A MAP
pseudo merlin
SF Starfall
SF Starfire
SF Sunfire
SF Stellar Flare
ill accept this as a viable alternative
Poland is central europe
lofty depot
But coming up with "it could be instant" in order to change it "to be better" is just categorically stupid
We have 2 dots already that are instant, it's supposed to be different
fossil hemlock
BROTHER DO YOU NEED A MAP
Lmao jesus christ Kekkers open a map
lucid olive
SF Starfall
SF Starfire
SF Sunfire
SF Stellar Flare
SS Starsurge
SS Shooting Stars
SS SolStice
pseudo merlin
Germany is eastern europe
drifting nova
But coming up with "it could be instant" in order to change it "to be better" is...
it's like eclipse reversed
warm current
I think it would've been fine if they added a CD to it, did more damage, and had...
that'd make it more interesting but how would that work with waning? moot point now but we'd always want that third dot for the increase
lofty depot
SS Starsurge
SS Shooting Stars
SS SolStice
No one is talking about solstice
lofty depot
that'd make it more interesting but how would that work with waning? moot point ...
Waning doesn't exist
And u ha mushroom
pseudo merlin
Im sorry how are latvia and lituva not eastern europe, just like croatia and bosnia
but poland is?
lofty depot
And u could balance 3rd dot uptime on main target for your CD windows
warm current
Waning doesn't exist
hence why i said moot, referring to DF times. current times that would make STFL pretty good as a cooldown usage
drifting nova
no one wants to be eastern europe, doesnt stop it existing
lofty depot
It would be fine now
It would've been fine then
U would've saved flare for trees windows
pseudo merlin
The UK is the north, thoughts?
drifting nova
Im sorry how are latvia and lituva not eastern europe, just like croatia and bos...
they claim northern europe apparantly
lucid olive
just have it proc shooting stars innit
eager raft
SF Starfall
STF Starfire
SUF Sunfire
STFL Stellar Flare
SF Sunfire
SF Starfall
SF Stellar Flare
SF Starfire
lofty depot
We hate eclipse cuz it's on gcd
drifting nova
I'd also hate flare if it was an instant
but I'd hate it less
a 3rd dot is just cringe
pseudo merlin
SF Sunfire
SF Starfall
SF Stellar Flare
SF Starfire
repost but still funny
warm current
It's not a hard concept to figure out
are we wrong though?
drifting nova
what ACTUALLY changes if eclipse isnt on gcd
lofty depot
U are yes
fossil hemlock
what ACTUALLY changes if eclipse isnt on gcd
You have an off-global damage button. This isn't FFXIV