balance

[lofty depot]

well shouldnt it over ride from that

but also yea, its just the text

rather than the actual bar

[vale silo]

For some variables, like anything resource related, the colors get baked in. The color of the rest of the text in a bar area gets set separately.

Also oof the elipses for the color swatch descriptions isn't ideal

The sooner I get to the options UI refresh the better

[craggy sonnet]

i thought you can do arithmetic on secrets? so getting the secret resource value, adding some value and then feeding it into the bar progress is doable, or?

yapping btw

even if you yourself cant ever read it blank

[vale silo]

You can't, unfortunately. That's why Blizzard introduced things like ColorCurve so you could have things change when you have a secret

That's how I got Overcapping reenabled

[radiant jungle]

Is there something I'm missing with Twintop, I have it set to never display the health bar and yet it shows up under my energy bar

[ornate girder]

has anyone found an addon that removes the glow swipe from cdm? like the pic

[craggy sonnet]

you need to go to the respective spec tab

[craggy sonnet]

multiple .. cdm centered has a colorpicker with alpha

[radiant jungle]

ty

[vale silo]

@craggy sonnet beat me to it

[craggy sonnet]

hm, thats so weird

[ornate girder]

damn i been using bcdm

[vale silo]

I'm working on making this easier too

[lucid olive]

i use both

[craggy sonnet]

you can use it "on top"

[lucid olive]

i disabled everything except the swipe in cdm centered

[ornate girder]

gotcha will have to look into it

[craggy sonnet]

thats so weird .. why wouldnt they allow that?

[craggy sonnet]

and centering surely

[lucid olive]

it only runs the swipe

disabled centering in bcdm too

of the buff bar at least

[craggy sonnet]

aight

[vale silo]

Because you could e.g. take a bunch of secret values, add them together/do math on them, then either print out the result to solve a problem, or, pipe it into something where a Curve evaluates it and lights up another element.

The shenanigans would be hilarious and awful.

[craggy sonnet]

hmmm

aight

[radiant jungle]

I like the color swapping when in an eclipse or Incarnation though

and the simple duration of eclipse or incarnation inside the bar is a nice touch

[craggy sonnet]

btw, for the cd timer in the resource bar, you need to track those buffs in the cdm, right?

or how do you get them

[lucid olive]

i found an addon that only existed to remove the uptime swipe on cooldowns like CA and it removed the entire sunfire duration too

[vale silo]

Usually, I manually track it. For some other specs I have some ways of hooking into an aura but that's typically just to get a true/false on if a buff is up

[lucid olive]

i think blizzard should let me choose exactly where my cdm buff bar icons go

[radiant jungle]

(still messing with options) but that is what happens for me with those two tracked

[craggy sonnet]

oh you mean fixed timer when ability used?

[craggy sonnet]

i think blizzard should let me do a lot of things

fwiw, you can use cdm control yet ON TOP of bcdm and centered

for buff positioning

[radiant jungle]

so there is a way to make this not so ugly?

[lucid olive]

cooldown manager centered addon can change it

[radiant jungle]

Kk grabbing that

the amount of addons we gotta get for stuff is like just tons of WA but like worse somehow

[lucid olive]

[radiant jungle]

that sums it up nicely

[craggy sonnet]

they will reach feature parity until midnight surely

or rather someone is gonna have allat

[lofty depot]

yes

and move them to the icons

[craggy sonnet]

twintop lying to me gg

[vale silo]

You don't need to for any cooldowns in my bar

I don't source anything from CDM

[craggy sonnet]

arctic lying to me .. should have known

[radiant jungle]

lol

[lofty depot]

hm

[radiant jungle]

for cooldownmanagercentered what are the toggles I need to mess with for fixing those specifically

[lofty depot]

i thoguht u meant in the total thing

my fault

[radiant jungle]

Ty

[craggy sonnet]

dude, so resourceful .. just snipped that out of the changelog of wowup

[lofty depot]

how i fix silly square being small

[sudden pawn]

what size is the icon

[lofty depot]

it was happening before

think its problem with bcdm

but 40

[sudden pawn]

make it 44

and see if that happens

[lofty depot]

happens at 36

but not 44?!?!?1

[sudden pawn]

i think uh

even numbers after 42 work

all odd numbers dont work (i think)

[craggy sonnet]

???

[sudden pawn]

and below 42 its like that idk

[lofty depot]

works on the starlorfd

but not weaver

[sudden pawn]

well

cant win them all i gues

[normal pilot]

maybe should've stolen perfectpixel from elvui

[sudden pawn]

make it all 44

[lofty depot]

44 was a lie

[craggy sonnet]

ok hear me out

OR

you get another cdm addon for it

[lucid olive]

monka

[lofty depot]

fuck u

how about that

[craggy sonnet]

your loss

..

[lucid olive]

did you disable everything in cdm centered

[lofty depot]

how about u think about that

yes

it was happening before

[lucid olive]

at the top just choose the greyed out option on everything

gg

[craggy sonnet]

unplug everything

reset

[sudden pawn]

ok but

try 46

lol

@lofty depot

[lucid olive]

46 is so big ew

[craggy sonnet]

refactor your disk drive

[lucid olive]

bring your pc to a magnet shop

[radiant jungle]

that native orange is a bit jarring, but I can't think of what color to have in default mode

[nimble tangle]

After reading all messages

I decided just to adapt to shitty Blizz settings

I eat the shit Blizz gave me

[lofty depot]

@lucid olive ITS AN ELV SKIN

i just noticed they changed the tier to armor base

[sour rampart]

Anyone who read my fucking guide knew that Arctic

[lofty depot]

who reads that

silly guy

[sour rampart]

Lmao

[lofty depot]

u change shit in a 3000 word essay

like im gonna know what 14 words u added

[lofty depot]

hey plz fix this is very important

[sour rampart]

Lmao

What the hell typo is that

Brb

There ya go

It didn't fix the link so enjoy the ocd

[lofty depot]

im tilted

[sour rampart]

Lmao

[sudden pawn]

platynato

[misty dome]

This version of eclipse is terrible, especially in PvP. Feels SO clunky. Nobody wanted this...

Why wouldn't you line trees up with incarn though?

[lavish bronze]

incarn is a 1:30 CD, trees are 45s, new eclipse fills the gaps and lets you get more broccoli out

[misty dome]

Yeah, but you haev 2 cahrges of incarn.

Your gonna want to trees on those charges, not on reg eclipse

I wonder what the timing is if you are weaving your incarn windows with trees between your eclipses? wondering if you can get close to constant up time. Just going to be a nightmare to try and time that and track in arenas. I know the majority of people on this thread on PvE so probably easier to execute.

[lavish bronze]

thats still 4 cast of trees/ 3 min vs 2 casts of incarn/ 3min

[lofty depot]

Cuz casting 2 wraths/starfires to get into eclipse seems so worth it in pvp

[cobalt bolt]

How can i get youre astral power bar ?

[lofty depot]

Rather than now, u have an instant cast eclipse and get an instant cast from going into eclipse

[lavish bronze]

I'm scratchin my head trying to understand why you wouldnt tree on eclipse and CA

especialy with CotD

[somber path]

what new eclipse is fine like yeah I would rather have something else but button > casting twice

especially in pvp

[drifting nova]

no, logoff, much wiser choice

[delicate perch]

instead of what

[radiant jungle]

Addon called Twintop’s Resource Bar

[nimble tangle]

can't, i need AA to rehab my addiction

[drifting nova]

hows a breakdown service going to help you?

[restive jolt]

ooh when do we expect a release of said things i love looking at those

[sour rampart]

I posted it a day or two ago

Uhh

Raider's guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGkZ2Cjr0jlv90XqW9vy9VXsVucd-yMCgHdyCvX_kQfOrexNDAC7Lf3LifuhqxrcWqJ0W3zIhvK3ii/pub
Checklist for Guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iK2SZUcz_ljnkdTG7KW6pqfzaUDuSgnlh1HupcLrkus/

[restive jolt]

ty ❤️

always a welcome guides

[sour rampart]

Feel free to ping me if you have questions or feedback

Always looking to do better

[drifting nova]

favourite ice cream?

[sour rampart]

Praline and cream

[royal zenith]

Self-obsessed 😭

[drifting nova]

butt out deux, you never answered it

when I asked

[drifting nova]

so vanilla smh

[sour rampart]

Tf

It doesn't take anything like vanilla

Taste

[drifting nova]

vanilla and nuts

[sour rampart]

Ok well you're a crazy person

[nimble tangle]

nothing can help, only magic

MAGIC

or perfect Afenar style CDM

[delicate perch]

first time kekkers chatter?

[sour rampart]

I can't emote

But yes

[delicate perch]

best to avoid direct contact

kinda like looking at the sun

[cobalt bolt]

Thank you mate

[pallid bay]

is your addon actually good

do i swap

[pallid bay]

blue

[nimble tangle]

@lucid olive your wago page does not have screenshot

[livid jay]

if only arcui wasnt buggy like this

[small elbow]

Its eating the reserved spots I assume and maybe make the bars the size of the current cds being tracked? No clue if that would help, but I don't have this issue

[livid jay]

the dev said its bugged and he will fix it at some point this week

so yea idc 😄

[sudden marsh]

Do i need to use a different uploader for beta logs?

[fossil hemlock]

I guess that depends entirely on which you're using

[pallid bay]

you just need to select beta folder

[pallid bay]

top right PTR ig

[sudden marsh]

alrighty thanks

[pallid bay]

think you can just upload a log and browse to the file but could be wrong about that

[livid jay]

shits really called Windrunner spire

Journey before destination guys

[sudden marsh]

straight to the point

[jade flume]

Dont have that, im an alpha

[sudden flame]

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova did you have eggs for breakfast

[drifting nova]

no

ran out

only 1 left

cant have a single egg

[craggy sonnet]

Can't have it all

[pseudo merlin]

or can you

[livid jay]

wym

boiled egg

spoon

gg

just need a Eierschalensollbruchstellenverursacher

[livid jay]

dafaq

[drifting nova]

scrambled and omelette, about it

[livid jay]

slice of toast + butter and salt -> cut into strips -> dip into liquid yolk from boiled egg -> stonks

[drifting nova]

na, dont like soldiers

no way you put salt on your toast

ufknwut

[livid jay]

gotta salt the egg anyways, might aswell salt the toast if u dip it in the egg

[sudden flame]

[pseudo merlin]

i felt this

we use those too

[livid jay]

actually goated invention

just realized i dont have one yet since i moved, ordered one

[pseudo merlin]

idk if they even make those things anymore

That has to be one of those forgotten inventions

we just use a knife most of the time

once you get a good technique going you can cut it off without eggshell fragments in your egg

[livid jay]

Wait are we talking about the same thing

Is yours something that cuts the egg

Or something that makes the shell crack in a perfect circle so you can just take the "lid" off

This what I mean 😄

[final patio]

Is it just me or does Eclipse feel like a button that should be off gcd?

[pseudo merlin]

yes you can jsut use a knife

or a spoon even

[fossil hemlock]

That's just you. It's only a half-GCD, and in midnight it will also give an instant cast and do damage on press

[livid jay]

yes but its not as satisfying

[pseudo merlin]

definitely not

imma get one

[livid jay]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IEE7Q_e0xMU

[pseudo merlin]

love that guy

[livid jay]

that thing is actually a bit skill based tho

if u got some practice u can after letting the ball drop just take the thing off at an angle and take the lid right off with it

[fossil hemlock]

Ranked egg de-shelling

[livid jay]

was about to say

boomkin so piss now

opening egg requires more skill and tools

[fossil hemlock]

Reroll to Eierschalensollbruchstellenverursacher main

[livid jay]

ravec rerolling from knife to eierschalensollbruchstellenverursacher

gonna have to practice a bit but ones hes got it down the parses will be insane

that was sus

[sudden flame]

no it wasnt

[pseudo merlin]

Cant wait to be able to drink my egg straight from the shell properly

[round field]

why dont u just

peel ur egg

like a normal person

[livid jay]

do you never eat your egg with center still liquid with a spoon?

[round field]

not with a spoon no

thats weird

[livid jay]

no thats bis

[round field]

thats what bread is for

[livid jay]

if u put egg on bread its not a softboiled one 😄

but a poached one

[round field]

wrong

you slice it in half

and then use the yolk as a dip

same as sunny side up eggs

[livid jay]

hmm

idk eating with a spoon is great

didnt know it was a thing not everyone does

[round field]

sounds like a pain

[livid jay]

peeling it sounds like a pain

[pseudo merlin]

thats not normal

germans are like the most normal people on the planet

[livid jay]

https://brainstream.de/en/products/beepegg-singing-floating-egg-timer/
@pseudo merlin if u want to further improve your parses

[balmy light]

the buff on beta, will it be live on retail also or no

[lofty depot]

Yea, when midnight launches

[round field]

depends what timeframe were talking about

cause americans kinda seem like old germans and i wouldnt call them very normal

[lofty depot]

Which Americans 👀

[round field]

Idk

U guys are going around like

Pew pew

And im just eating my popcorn

[vale pebble]

ofc u are fatty

[lofty depot]

Hitler took away people's guns

Mine won't be taken away

[round field]

im borderline underweight tho

[lofty depot]

But I'm also not Kyle Rittenhousing

[round field]

Funny thing is

I probably couldnt even visit ur country

Cause i said ur food sucks in a random discord

[lofty depot]

Ur thinking of UK

[round field]

No im definitely thinking about amrica

And ur funny

Social media check on the border

[lofty depot]

U think they're checking for food related opinions

They surely didn't check all the "fuck America" "burn America" people

[livid jay]

your country is omega cooked

[lofty depot]

Yet theyre worried about your beans on toast opinion

[pseudo merlin]

I'd say americans used to be normal yeah

like pre-bush sr era Americans

IT all went wrong with Jr

[tacit oriole]

Good morning folks

[pseudo merlin]

lmao what

nah I vibecook my eggs always

never miss a perfect soft boil

[livid jay]

what if u go skiing

[pseudo merlin]

I only eat meat when I go skiing

steak for breakfast, currywurst for lunch

burger for dinner

[livid jay]

[pseudo merlin]

god I love currywurst

holy shit

I love germans

[livid jay]

bro

my university

cafeteria

had a line only for currywurst

[pseudo merlin]

I bet

Did everyone leave uni fat?

I'd be

[pseudo merlin]

oof

[livid jay]

cant eat currywurst every day

[pseudo merlin]

yes you can

Alternatively Ill take a frankfurter mitt senf und sauerkraut

[round field]

im sure youve taken your fair share of frankfurters

[livid jay]

dont those go with potato salad

i dont even know

frankfurt is like 100km from me but german sausage and beer culture is so localized that we dont even eat frankfurters here

holy shit

the sausage international people call frankfurter

is called Wiener in Germany

today i learned thata Wiener = Frankfurter

[pseudo merlin]

no shot

always sauerkraut

[pseudo merlin]

wait really

Austrians always call it frankfurter

I don't think a frankfurter is a wiener

The guy who invented teh frankfurter was a Viennese from Frankfurt

[craggy sonnet]

doesnt that tell you that its the same?

if you didnt make it up of course

[round field]

Hmmm

but

why would someone from down under be in germany

to make a sausage?

[pseudo merlin]

Like a frankfurter is a protected name for a thin pork sausage made by a viennese from frankfurt, who named it after frankfurt, the wiener is something closely resembling it but it also comes in a beef/pork mix. In addition germans tend to call frankfurters wieners and austrians call wieners frankfurters

sausage lore goes deep

[livid jay]

hahahaha

[craggy sonnet]

very particular about our sausages around here

[livid jay]

yea i know that sausage under the name wiener and its always just pork

[pseudo merlin]

everyone else in the world just calls it a hotdog probably

[livid jay]

i mean thats offensive

typical hotdog sausage aint a wiener

[pseudo merlin]

basically a hate crime

[craggy sonnet]

but

to go back to the original point

im not sure i've ever eaten a wiener with sauerkraut

[eager raft]

glizzy**

[pseudo merlin]

UI is done on live

thoughts

[livid jay]

i have Bratwurst with Sauerkraut and Mustard but Wiener goes with potato salad and mustard for me

[pseudo merlin]

I'm sure a wiener goes as well with sauerkraut as a frankfurter does

I personally also add ketchup

[eager raft]

Looks good ravec

Which addon(s)

[pseudo merlin]

mustard+ketchup+wiener OR frankfurter is goated

[pseudo merlin]

[craggy sonnet]

elvui default profile slop and good ole abe

[pseudo merlin]

ABE, gcdbar, twintop, elvui, details

[craggy sonnet]

enhance qol has a proper gcd bar now

[pseudo merlin]

is what you see

[eager raft]

Is the resource bar spriest specific

I like the ticks

[craggy sonnet]

no

works for boomie

[eager raft]

Can you choose what intervals the ticks go at

Or the colour of the ticks

[craggy sonnet]

can also change color if you are in ecl / ca

[eager raft]

Sweet

[craggy sonnet]

the ticks are actually dynamic

its proper coded

[eager raft]

Wait really

[craggy sonnet]

not manual tickmark

[pseudo merlin]

all specs

twintops is the goat

[craggy sonnet]

twintop only needs the AP predict tech from dr sune

[eager raft]

Will it update dynamically with stuff like EG

[pseudo merlin]

he might be working on that

if its possible he'll get it in

[craggy sonnet]

i think so?

tbh i have not tried that specifically

but it works with rattle, astral communion

[livid jay]

that sounds illegal

[eager raft]

I’m gonna have to check it out

[pallid bay]

didnt he have it

[eager raft]

I’ve been going very minimal on addons so far in prepatch but that looks good

[craggy sonnet]

only number

[pallid bay]

oh

[craggy sonnet]

not attach to bar

[livid jay]

how do you do it?

[craggy sonnet]

he didnt seem to know how to

[lofty depot]

Number not animation ye

[pallid bay]

trade secret..

[craggy sonnet]

smh my head

[eager raft]

o i send me it

[pallid bay]

alright so what you do is

you make 2 bars

attach one to the other

set min to 0 max to unitpowermax

[eager raft]

Don’t tell everyone just dm me

[pallid bay]

set width based on the width of main bar

[pseudo merlin]

oi is spilling money making secrets

[pallid bay]

have a container frame for them that clips children

[pseudo merlin]

someone monetize it quick

[craggy sonnet]

@vale silo

[lofty depot]

@ twintops get to work

[craggy sonnet]

just send him the code already

[livid jay]

@ twintops give me your paypal

[pallid bay]

then you setpoint left apbar right

[lofty depot]

Lol sune I saw u ask if twintops was good 6 hours ago, did u end up testing it out

[craggy sonnet]

can you make this a separate addon?

[pallid bay]

no

[craggy sonnet]

and just attach to whatever resource bar?

[vale pebble]

twinslop 🥀

[craggy sonnet]

with specified frame name / bar name

[pallid bay]

well you need to handle everything that comes with prediction

and you need to know the width of the resource bar

[craggy sonnet]

if you know the name of the frame, you can just get it .. no?

[pallid bay]

but technically sure

[craggy sonnet]

the width i mean

[pallid bay]

its secret

[craggy sonnet]

what?

oh you dont mean the entire width

?

[lofty depot]

Lol silly clanker

[pallid bay]

i do mean the entire bar

i could be wrong ofc

[craggy sonnet]

the width of a frame is secret?

[pallid bay]

but the entire width of a bar becomes secret when you set its values to secret

or maybe not but anyway thats a non-issue

[craggy sonnet]

maybe that would be something neat

if you could just provide that feature to other resource bars

[eager raft]

Think u should gatekeep

[craggy sonnet]

first step to big OiUI

[eager raft]

I know sune appreciates gatekeeping as much as I do

[lean jackal]

Did we get buffed today or were the Notes i saw a few days ago (Aura/Starsurge/Goldrinn/etc.) just for Beta/Midnight release?

[jaunty blaze]

not on live

[lean jackal]

🙁

[calm bough]

Yeah no

These are the first week numbers

[jaunty blaze]

😭 🥀

[calm bough]

On archon

Struggling out here

[jaunty blaze]

very valuable

[calm bough]

But I mean it is pre patch

Changes are coming 100%

[lofty depot]

What part of prepatch is valuable

[pseudo merlin]

why are we looking at tier lists

😩

[jaunty blaze]

[calm bough]

I was answering

A question 🫡

[lofty depot]

Tier list season for easily manipulated

[calm bough]

This is true

[lofty depot]

M+ +7 type shit

[calm bough]

Balance for life

[jaunty blaze]

i mean thats not really an answer to whether the patch is live is it

[calm bough]

That’s all the data

[pseudo merlin]

"these specs secretly dominate the 3-5 bracket"

[calm bough]

Bruh

[lofty depot]

Yea thank god we scraped the bottom of the barrel m+ finished keys to see what classes are the best

[calm bough]

Okay sorry for wasting y’all’s time lol

[pseudo merlin]

posting a tier list and getting offended is wild

[jaunty blaze]

bro deleted 😭

[pseudo merlin]

like next level wild

[craggy sonnet]

Heckin feathered bullies

[pseudo merlin]

we need to bring back bullying

Kids these days aren't being prepped for real life anymore

[jaunty blaze]

real

back in my day and shit

[pseudo merlin]

Actually they keep showing shit on the news that kids in highschool these days are doing some insane shit like gang beating up (kicking faces even) and filming it for tiktok

[lofty depot]

No problem 🙂

[pseudo merlin]

We didnt behave like that for sure

[lofty depot]

Well there's 2 types of bullying

I prefer mental

[pseudo merlin]

[lofty depot]

That's why I'm terminally online

[pseudo merlin]

I consider people asking what our stat weights are bullying

I'm getting bullied daily

[dire osprey]

guys i have 40k haste 20k armour 10k mastery 10k crit why is my dmg low

[lofty depot]

Skill issue

[jade flume]

Low armur

[quiet drift]

Need more armor to maximize your Reactive Armour damage

[calm bough]

😂

[livid jay]

ayo i missed the tierlist?

[jaunty blaze]

how will you know how good boomie is now

[livid jay]

who cares

i mained boomkin since bfa

no way some numbers are gonna make me swap

[lofty depot]

Uve been holding ur guild back since bfa?

That's crazy tech

[livid jay]

u what

[lofty depot]

👀

[jaunty blaze]

🤨

[livid jay]

someone call an ambulance i think arctic has a stroke

actually no dont

[lofty depot]

Autocorrect is bane

[livid jay]

that might bankrupt him

[round field]

Imagine

Ur native english speaker

And have to use autocorrect

Wild

[livid jay]

what does that have to do with your mother tongue

[tacit oriole]

hes still human

[lofty depot]

Well u see when u type fast

[livid jay]

has to do with your finger size and phone keyboard size 😄

[round field]

Wrong

He is stoopid

[lofty depot]

Inqi got small hands

[livid jay]

was about to say

iqni small finger confirmed

[livid jay]

u mean holding hostage or

[lofty depot]

Well back and make somehow autocorrects but yea

[livid jay]

ooooh

[pseudo merlin]

[round field]

Wrong

I just know how to use them well

Practiced on ur mum for years

[livid jay]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-aukerman-comedy-fist-in-air-shaking-gif-5620082

[kindred geyser]

show me your ui please thank you

[royal zenith]

No.

[jaunty blaze]

😔

[pseudo merlin]

don't listen to these rude idiots, especially ducks

[kindred geyser]

yea thas clean

idk where tf i can get the ap bar

[lofty depot]

Twintops resource bar
Better Cooldown manager
Senseis

[kindred geyser]

bless you both 8)

[craggy sonnet]

its not bcdm tho

oh you mean in general

fml

[lofty depot]

That's why twintops is first

[pseudo merlin]

twintops goated

[eager raft]

Show me your ui now !

[pseudo merlin]

I bet it looks like shit

Like everything Deux touches

[eager raft]

I bet it looks really great and is highly functional and extremely cool

[pseudo merlin]

[royal zenith]

Its default atm

[pseudo merlin]

Basic bitch...

[royal zenith]

Will fix in like 2 weeks

Atm you have to fix it every week

[pseudo merlin]

we'll see about that

(youre probably right)

I hate this event

[lofty depot]

Shouldn't have missed 2 silly

[pseudo merlin]

THANKS ARCTIC

[lofty depot]

Now u gotta random chance it

I got like 7 pieces of gear on the mirror tho

[eager raft]

They’re on a set spawn order

1 every 10 mins

[pseudo merlin]

ye ik

thats why it sucks

gotta sit through the whole rota

[eager raft]

Miss one gotta wait 3h

Ye

[lofty depot]

Yes, but where in the 3 hour loop are u

[pseudo merlin]

but also its super predictable so like

its not a big deal at all

[eager raft]

Yeah you just wait for 1 to spawn, then check where it is in the order

Then calculate how long til u need to come back

[pseudo merlin]

oh shit benedictus is next

[lofty depot]

Flying around for flowers was more fun

[pseudo merlin]

shoulda made us do something with this thing

[lucid olive]

which one is that

is it the warlord zonussy or the yorsahjussy

[pseudo merlin]

twilight highlands

neither I think

[lucid olive]

isnt it one of the 2 holes from dragon soul

[pseudo merlin]

is it??

That hole was next to the tower

in borean tundra

dragonblight*

[lucid olive]

gg

[pseudo merlin]

I think this is just a random hole

[lucid olive]

that used to be your moms nickname no?

[pseudo merlin]

wooooooooooow

mods?

im speedrunning this shit

[normal pilot]

why are the icons misaligned from the squares

[pseudo merlin]

its really bad lmao

left side aligns left/top, middle middle/top and right aligns top/right

just not sure why

[nimble tangle]

twintops has own resource bar settings?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[nimble tangle]

can i just use ticks feature only?

[lofty depot]

With other bars?

[nimble tangle]

yeah, i want to use sensei resource with twintops ticks

[lofty depot]

No

[nimble tangle]

FUCK ME

[pseudo merlin]

no

[nimble tangle]

[lofty depot]

Yea delete senseis

Silly goose

[pseudo merlin]

delete senseis

[nimble tangle]

NO SENSEI

YES SENSEI

[lofty depot]

U keep trying to avoid the inevitable

[nimble tangle]

only my fate is inevitable

[pseudo merlin]

only god can evitable me

[kindred geyser]

when you press eclipe

how you decide/manipulate if i go solar or lunar

how does this work

[pseudo merlin]

same way as before?/cast stf or wrath before hitting eclipse

[kindred geyser]

oh shiet i had ec thats why im not in solar

hehe

[pseudo merlin]

yup

we did it

[wheat crown]

So why has there been no development on boomkin?

[royal zenith]

?

[wheat crown]

I feel like im doing tank damage in raid even with the ST builds

[royal zenith]

do you mean tuning?

[wheat crown]

Yea tuning mb

[royal zenith]

if so; ask blizzard

[wheat crown]

Also bring back full moon ST elune

I want to drop moons lol

[royal zenith]

maybe there will be heavier tuning close to release or based on hc week

[fast parcel]

I mean my alt DH doing same damage as boomy with 17ilvl difference, raid kind of a meme when fights last 1:30

[pseudo merlin]

there has

its just not for live

[royal zenith]

M+ is also a meme for that matter, cause dh will always bdruid beat in burst dam

[pseudo merlin]

there's been one tuning pass since prepatch no?

[wheat crown]

Could you please link?

[royal zenith]

ye

[wheat crown]

All im getting from my guild is dooming

[royal zenith]

rightfully so

the damage is not good

[wheat crown]

There even talk about me switching to... a dragon

[lofty depot]

I wonder what he means by no tuning when there's been tuning

[royal zenith]

well they did ask for a link, so prob not aware

[pseudo merlin]

If you're new

This is how the game has always been

[royal zenith]

if you know every tuning round per week, per date...

[pseudo merlin]

Prepatch comes out with tuning intended for xpac release

[lofty depot]

Wowhead and start scrolling

[royal zenith]

maybe log out......

[pseudo merlin]

Some classes get turbo OP, others need their new abilities

[wheat crown]

I got released from warlock jail this tier

[royal zenith]

warlock jail?

[wheat crown]

So I have always been spoiled

[maiden pasture]

ST elune god I hope no one ever listens to that suggestion

[royal zenith]

oh boy

[pseudo merlin]

warlock jail?

[lofty depot]

Idk why u wouldn't want to play lock

[royal zenith]

you went from warlock 'jail' to balance druid

[lofty depot]

When it just does fuck u damage always

[pseudo merlin]

That's like saying "I'm in trillion dollar bank account jail"

what?

[royal zenith]

the yugest of fumbles

[lucid olive]

making any decisions about Midnight tuning from pre-patch is not very smart

[maiden pasture]

The only class you're allowed to quit lock for is mage on god

[wheat crown]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/102024902

[grizzled shoal]

Thinking pre patch numbers matter is really funny

[wheat crown]

We just needed the druid and it looked fun on beta

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah but bamkin is also worthless on beta

[lofty depot]

It might be fun.... It also might do negative damage

[lucid olive]

you're very likely not in a guild where it matters what spec you play

[lofty depot]

Won't know til after heroic week

[lucid olive]

you should pick what you find the most fun

[lofty depot]

And further more after rwf lol

[wheat crown]

Just a mid / tier CE

Mid / late tier

[lucid olive]

unless you're top 20 world rank guild it literally doesn't matter

[royal zenith]

okay but gamz, you worry about balance druid tuning being a 'miss' every tier

you can't be saying this

less be real

[wheat crown]

Lmao sombody knows youu

[royal zenith]

For anyone non-RWF it doesn't matter

[wheat crown]

Is there a druid version of kalamazi...

[lucid olive]

the context behind that statement is different

[pseudo merlin]

tettles?

Naguura?

[lofty depot]

What part of kalamazi

[royal zenith]

the beard part

[pseudo merlin]

Papercups?

[royal zenith]

I'd argue that tuning doesn't matter for anything in this game

apart from community perception

[wheat crown]

One that will do all the testing and make reliable content on it

[royal zenith]

thoughts?

[lofty depot]

All the druids don't stream or talk in such a TC ish way like kalamazi... The closest u'll get is tettles

[pseudo merlin]

wrong

[lucid olive]

saying that tuning has been a miss is just an observation looking at the constant % aura buffs between every tier

[royal zenith]

you will not be invited stinky spriest

[wheat crown]

I'll check the out

[lofty depot]

Tettles doesn't exclusively play boomkin tho

[pseudo merlin]

I will

[lucid olive]

like how we had 34% in aura buffs throughout TWW

[pseudo merlin]

my spec is like

top 5 on most raid fights

I saw the tier list

so..

[royal zenith]

You would be right, if 0 was the actual baseline

[lofty depot]

There is however a bunch of boomkin people that stream prog.

[quiet drift]

How much was Wrath buffed

[royal zenith]

it's just a knob they turn

[quiet drift]

throughout

[royal zenith]

it can go minus or positive

[lucid olive]

the aura got reset to 0 at the start of TWW

same as it's reset now

and ended at 34

[lofty depot]

It's now at 6

[royal zenith]

they could've also set it to 0 the whole tier and keep buffing abilities

[lofty depot]

Locken

[royal zenith]

it doesn't really matter...

[lucid olive]

it's just an observation that we get % aura buffs in every patch, and then i made the hypothesis that it's because of how the only stat we scale with is mastery

[wheat crown]

Will elune ever surpass keepers?

[lofty depot]

Gonna be at 10 before .5 prob

[lucid olive]

that's not really relevant when the conversation instead is "can you play moonkin in raid"

[wheat crown]

In st*

[lofty depot]

That would be cringe

So no

[wheat crown]

But... moooons

[lofty depot]

We don't play moons with EC currently

[royal zenith]

it's literally not an observation if you include "it's a miss"

[lofty depot]

So idk why u think we'll play it in midnight

[royal zenith]

that's an opinion

but it's w.e.

not that important

[wheat crown]

I can dreams

[lofty depot]

Moons can be played in keeper, it just never been fun/good

[lucid olive]

its also not relevant to the conversation "can i play moonkin without trolling"

cause even if the tuning is a miss the spec is viable

[quiet drift]

Arent there plenty of other specs that scale with 1 stat only

[lofty depot]

U dream about bad decisions

[pseudo merlin]

Oh look it's Midnight moonkin

[lucid olive]

probably, i play moonkin

[royal zenith]

well it is, cause their baseline in this case is wanting to play

[lofty depot]

U can play moons, no one is stopping u

[wheat crown]

I also only played afflock

[royal zenith]

community perception > viability

aka play something that's useful ALWAYS matters

[wheat crown]

But I was near the top on dmg

So nobody said shit

[lofty depot]

U can play boomkin and not be on top of damage

[quiet drift]

I feel like Boomie is just an extremely flat spec

None of our shit does any crazy dmg

[wheat crown]

Lmfao

[quiet drift]

if it does it gets nerfed and aura gets buffed

[nimble tangle]

why can't i log on again

[pseudo merlin]

Bring back ravenous frenzy, thoughts?

[nimble tangle]

why why why

[lofty depot]

If u posted log and I knew aff, I would probably say shit

[royal zenith]

yeah boomkin has a shit profile for a while now

it's just kinda bad in general for the content

[craggy sonnet]

I mean

[quiet drift]

Dont really mean as a shit dmg profile

Just abilities

[lucid olive]

whats a good profile

[wheat crown]

I did pretty good as aff. I did post logs

[nimble tangle]

new boomkin has way too many procs to track

[wheat crown]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/102024902

[craggy sonnet]

We are coming from a tier with huge burst

[nimble tangle]

look at demo lock look at frost

[wheat crown]

Here they are again

[nimble tangle]

and hunters

[lofty depot]

As stated, I don't know aff

[pseudo merlin]

?

[quiet drift]

Dmg every 1min and cleave without ST loss

[royal zenith]

doing ST damage + having good cleave

[quiet drift]

cough

Mage

cough

[nimble tangle]

EC gotta track 3 procs, and stacks of starfall

[indigo barn]

just pick a late CE guild, be first on damage even on moonkin and enjoy

[pseudo merlin]

It's almost like some classes just change 1 talent and get optimal dmg profiles

[lofty depot]

The opposite of boomkin

[nimble tangle]

then incarn

[craggy sonnet]

1min trees + convoke + ca every other

[nimble tangle]

then ecplise

[royal zenith]

when bamkin was 'meta' in nathria it had exactly this

[craggy sonnet]

And we should be able to do decent (spread) cleave assuming tuning is right

[royal zenith]

cause it, by default, cranked on ST

[wheat crown]

Well im gonna run away from the idea of playing chicken

[craggy sonnet]

This is all just crying about numbers

[lofty depot]

We cranked st s3

[wheat crown]

Ty for the info

[lofty depot]

Why r u running away

Stay a while, u could learn about why we all play this spec but hate it

[royal zenith]

haven't you been active in here for like 8 months now

maybe less

[wheat crown]

Cause I have options

[exotic perch]

We are not cranking rn

Raid was a joke last night but lmao i did no dmg

[wheat crown]

So your Stockholm syndrome into boomkin?

[lofty depot]

Uhhh, I played mage in undermine

Doesn't quite hit the same

Shits too easy

[craggy sonnet]

Have you been actively playing in the last like 8 months now?
I get it. But the point you are making is arbitrary.

[lofty depot]

Just live everything with 6 defensive

[royal zenith]

Im just saying it's the easy way out "it's all just numbers"

like, no shit sherlock

if you're overtuned you do a shitton of damage

[wheat crown]

I tossed it up to my raid lead to have him pick which caster i play

Gg

[royal zenith]

but then sub rogue exists

so yeah

[craggy sonnet]

Well, what I'm saying is that we technically have the tools

It has gotten better from the changes they made

But the numbers are just not there right now

[lofty depot]

Lock u have 3 chances to be good at every fight

[pseudo merlin]

the numbers are on warlock rn, like every patch in history

[lofty depot]

Boomkin has 1 chance to be good on 1 fight

And it's usually been boss 4/5

[royal zenith]

this is the thing

[wheat crown]

Theres a whole ass line of people that want to play lock

[royal zenith]

You'll just have extremely low chances in being relevant, other than motw bot

[lofty depot]

I wonder why

[wheat crown]

For a reason

[royal zenith]

which is fine tbf

[lofty depot]

Hmmm

[royal zenith]

but if you want to crank, pick a dps class with 3 dps roles

[pseudo merlin]

until resto druid is good

[royal zenith]

shrimple

[pseudo merlin]

[royal zenith]

I'm dreading first hc week at least

addon prune, shit tuning, new expansion

yippeh

[tacit oriole]

[pseudo merlin]

who needs weakauras

[drifting nova]

just wait for the lever

[royal zenith]

to disable more addons?

[royal zenith]

🤮

[pseudo merlin]

You dont like it?

[drifting nova]

multi

dollar

company

is cdm backwards

[pseudo merlin]

kekkers might be onto something

[drifting nova]

just cleared st

[royal zenith]

first time

[drifting nova]

ontop of the sky

[royal zenith]

he might be right

[drifting nova]

can I get a faaack st

[stone ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-disbelief-what-huh-gif-15892515

[lofty depot]

That's gotta be the smartest thing uve come up with

[void jacinth]

mdc?

[eager raft]

What in tarnation is this aspect ratio

[pseudo merlin]

49 inch buddy

[sullen axle]

Heyy, I have a quick question. With how balance is now in Midnight/Pre-patch, How does eclipse exactly work? If I just... want to focus on being in Lunar eclipse (Say I go for Warrior elune) I dont even really need wrath on my bar? ooor... what.

from how I read and played around with it, thats what it looks like to me, but I could be wrong

[pseudo merlin]

Just like before patch, if you play EC you wont wrath

[lucid olive]

sure you can remove wrath from your bar if you're playing elune's chosen

but there's no reason to, you probably have loads of spells on your bars you're not pressing

[lofty depot]

By "I go for warrior elune" u mean Elunes Chosen. It's default state is solar but you Starfire to show Lunar eclipse

But u just press the button

[sullen axle]

elune's chosen, right, sorry thats what I meant lmao

[dense steeple]

This is a screenshot from 2006 and you cant convince me otherwise

[pseudo merlin]

[tender elbow]

lads, does CDM stand for Cooldown Manager Centered?

[eager raft]

cdm is just cool down manager

[lofty depot]

That would be cmc

[pseudo merlin]

where's the second c

[eager raft]

Change ur name

[lofty depot]

To what

[eager raft]

Arctic

[tender elbow]

nvm ignore my quesiton xD I'm dumb

[eager raft]

Or Gary Eet

[lofty depot]

It'll get changed to "read resources tab" soon

Garyuhyuh

[plucky valley]

I’ve often times dream of keeping myself safe

[lofty depot]

Buy a gun, that will keep you safe

[plucky valley]

Thank you arctic

I can always count on you to bring that girliepop slay queen gaslight girl boss gatekeep energy

[pseudo merlin]

guns are illegal here, thoughtS?

[lofty depot]

Why are they illegal, they're for protection

Smh

[pseudo merlin]

europeans are not allowed to protect themselves

(the country I live in actually has castle doctrine tho )

[lofty depot]

Hmm, is that why France gave up so fast?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

no1 had guns

[lofty depot]

Tragic really

[pseudo merlin]

only the swiss and the czechs do

dont try to invade them

lot of hunting rifles in romania

[lofty depot]

The finns too

[pseudo merlin]

ye

denmark is up for grabs

[lofty depot]

White death type shit

[stone ledge]

Europeans just have a knife fight in mid to determine dominance

[pseudo merlin]

so is NL

[pseudo merlin]

legend has it he's still out there

[lofty depot]

German police getting their chainmail back out cuz all they fight is knives

[pseudo merlin]

that's UK

[plucky valley]

As legend has it you, are quite the pyro. You light the match just to watch it burn

[pseudo merlin]

in the UK stabbing is a national pasttime

[eager raft]

You guys do have some cool castles there

You should be allowed to defend them

[pseudo merlin]

Ye that's what the doctrine is for

We have roving bands of Mongolians that keep trying to break down our castle walls

[eager raft]

https://tenor.com/view/shitty-wok-city-south-park-gif-7701357

[flint rose]

We might not have guns in France, but we're smart enough to know that chocolate milk doesn't come from brown cows.

[pseudo merlin]

wrong

[loud kettle]

Id say that nobody actually thinks chocolate milk comes from brown cows but

[lofty depot]

Oh yea, like u don't feed strawberry's to cows so they produce strawberry milk. What a crock of shit.

[loud kettle]

They probably do exist

[pseudo merlin]

IT comes from purple cows

the same cows that make milka chocolate

[jaunty blaze]

could use some choccy milk rn ngl

[flint rose]

Old things haha https://www.cjr.org/analysis/brown-milk-study-cows.php

[fathom nebula]

@lofty depot Your Twintop profile, is that your personal or can i find it somewhere? 😮
BCM keeps bugging for me

[lofty depot]

I use bcdm for the cdm portion of it, just not the resource bar

But yea I can dm it to u, the automos hates the link for some reason

[drifting nova]

fake news media never seen a brown cow smh

[fathom nebula]

Yes please
Guess im stuck with the cooldown manager clipping to the bottom of my screen everytime i do anything 😄

[lofty depot]

What's that mean

[fathom nebula]

Thats the bottom of my screen

keeps clipping down there, it snaps back up again in combat

[round field]

This shit is waaay too sweet

[lofty depot]

I assume u didn't import the strings correctly

The cdm and edit mode strings are on wowhead

The bcdm string can be found on discord if u search "bcdm string"

I've posted it a few times

[fathom nebula]

I grabbed someone elses, he tried to copy Shroms settings as good as he could

[lofty depot]

But until the resources page gets added they're not all in one spot

[lofty depot]

I mean ur tracking convoke and trees twice

It looks either the same or close enough to gamz cdm

[fathom nebula]

Now its back up again randomly

[lofty depot]

I assume some settings are fucked somewhere

Usually I tell people they fucked the imports somewhere

[nimble tangle]

Since I made changes on CDM centered,

When I turn on BCDM, everything stacked hard

[fathom nebula]

Im stealing Gamz

[lofty depot]

What does stacked hard mean

[nimble tangle]

Like all spell icons are overlapping

In BCDM only

[lofty depot]

Probably need to disable one of them showing the cdm

[nimble tangle]

I turn off CMC when I turn on BCDM

[lofty depot]

One of them is zooming in or not padding corrcetly

Was happening to me

[nimble tangle]

probably previous settings in BCDM got messed up with blizzard default CDM settings

Yeah I think I’ll just reset BCDM back to default

[lofty depot]

Why r u using CMC for

Gamz said he disabled everything but the swipe recolor shit

Bcdm has centered buffs thing

[nimble tangle]

I need essential bars and utility bars centered too…

BCDM doesn’t have that

[lofty depot]

Why

[nimble tangle]

I have phase 5 OCD

I dunno why

[lofty depot]

10 days is a long time ago.... How do we know this is accurate

[normal pilot]

you can trust gamz

[fathom nebula]

Seems like my snapping issue came from the fact that on day one before i got BCM i moved shit around once and its bugged because of it

[pseudo merlin]

anyone have a dad that works at blizzard?

let me the fuck in

[lofty depot]

That doesn't sound like what Sunfire and moonfire do

[lofty depot]

I've just never moved it since the edit mode changes

X/y thru bcdm for the pixel changes

Why are we moving it around like a crazy person

[sour rampart]

Patch inc

[lofty depot]

So u gonna data mine what's in it or

[sour rampart]

That isn't me lmao i am so not tech savvy

[pseudo merlin]

get tech savvy

i need to know why im not allowed to play

+50% SF/SS?

[nimble tangle]

Just give boomie sunfire and moonfire same logics

One dot, everything

[normal pilot]

huh they actually considered making solar bolt hit multiple targets

[lofty depot]

It splashes or something?

[pseudo merlin]

no

[normal pilot]

it's explictly set to only fire 1 bolt, but it's set up to fire multiples as well