#balance

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quiet drift
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If you ever find yourself in a situation where the only damage that matters is doing burst for 15s to a stacked group of mobs

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It might be good

lofty depot
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Pvp surely

cloud citrus
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pvp still wants double incarn because its far more scary

lofty depot
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So we don't have funny beam cuz of them and they don't even use it

cloud citrus
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yea

sweet vigil
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it’s time to make orbital strike basekit

cloud citrus
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or just remove it at this point :>

lofty depot
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Yea because people having macro problems wasn't fun enough

quiet drift
fathom blade
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Can i ask a question about the k'aresh campaign skip ?

lofty depot
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Then reverted after a certain group of people complained

lofty depot
fathom blade
pseudo merlin
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you caveman

pale robin
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So I am using an action bar instead of the cooldown manager. I have my cooldown oriented spells laid out on there. What am i missing by not using the cooldown manager?

pseudo merlin
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dots and buffs

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but you can still enable the CDM just for that right

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I think

pale robin
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I am not sure. yet

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There is definitely going to be some growing pains with this

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going to have to reskin at least

pseudo merlin
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buffs are a seperate element

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so you can probably use buffs while leaving essential and utility turned off

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and youll be fine

eager raft
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Yea

royal zenith
pale robin
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thanks ravec

pseudo merlin
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@lofty depot can I post a video of my dog playing football

royal zenith
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what is he gonna do about it 💀

pseudo merlin
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Be snarky

pseudo merlin
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🙌

empty beacon
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Is there any suggested options/addons to get our energybar somewhere other than our normal name plate?

pseudo merlin
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twintops and sensei

empty beacon
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Its too bad they only half made their UI usable lol

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With Twintops, if the bite icon is lit up, is it good to bite, or still wait for 5 combos points?

lofty depot
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its just saying u have the energy to do so

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its not telling you how to play, its showing the threshold of energy cost

craggy sonnet
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but also bamkin channel lol

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we dont bite in here

lofty depot
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yea but the ferals clearly didnt know

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i elping

craggy sonnet
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poor ferals

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all gotta come in here

craggy sonnet
vale silo
craggy sonnet
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yo what the heck

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how did you snipe that

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using the same bot as larian

vale silo
craggy sonnet
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while you are here .. is there an ETA für dynamic width per chance?

empty beacon
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Aw man I suck, I thought I clicked feral. Thanks boomchickens.

lofty depot
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is that "the" twintop

craggy sonnet
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i've seen that its an open issue but not sure how high up in the priority

vale silo
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It is toward the top of my priority list, right after adding some more friendly global settings options to toggle things en masse

vale silo
craggy sonnet
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very nice! you've got some really cool stuff going on there. (but the settings can be a bit overwhelming for sure)

lofty depot
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bed

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oce... smh

vale silo
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Yeah, options screen rework is also somewhere on my todo list

craggy sonnet
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yeah, but it works. thats no.1

lofty depot
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someone just needs to find out how to do prediction

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and make millions of dollars

vale silo
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It keeps growing organically and reaches a point where it is..... gestures broadly

craggy sonnet
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just hard to find some things especially if you arent super patient. but just based on feature set, you are doing crazy good work right now

royal zenith
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thoughts??

vale silo
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There's quite a bit that could be done with predictive resources, the problem is it would be limited to text only unless there were some really funny shenanigans with the UX.

lofty depot
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just have an ad popup somewhere

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ad rev, gogoogog

normal pilot
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they don't have money exactly because they spend it on this type of stuff

royal zenith
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that's fair

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gastank has a point

normal pilot
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gotta be the first to market

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take in all that sweet wow boomer $$

vale silo
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Anywho, yes, OCE curse so off to bed

lofty depot
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need to find someone to make the OB tracker

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surely thats possible

craggy sonnet
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not sure

dense steeple
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whats a twintop

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why does arctic know him

pseudo merlin
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A twintop is a gay couple of which both persons are tops

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Very inconvenient

dense steeple
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shame

lofty depot
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clanker said his addon good

dense steeple
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never trust a clanker

lofty depot
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twintop has thresholds

dense steeple
pseudo merlin
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twintops good

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clankz good too

craggy sonnet
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Heck yea

limber compass
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Hey guys, Since prepatch lunch my damage Sucks in Raid. What Happens with Balance ? Or am i the Problem ? Or is it a Stat Problem ?

pseudo merlin
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boomie is dead

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wait for midnight hopefully tuning till be better

limber compass
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👍

lofty depot
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the biggest part is classes arent balanced around prepatch

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some classes do a lot of damage pre apex talents

limber compass
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Ok thx 🙏 let’s wait for midnight. Thx guys

lofty depot
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dont worry, surely it gets better in midnight (it doesnt)

pseudo merlin
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some yellow and blue bolts aint fixing this homie

nimble tangle
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I was just shifting forms

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what if… I’m just saying if

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The stats squash went wrong on boomie

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That caused boomie dead in prepare

plucky valley
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There is a simple truth I would like to share with each of you

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When you moonfire every mob

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You’re doing the lords work

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In this case the lord being elune

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If you are dooming over boomie now then you have no faith in our goddess

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And you should logout

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Or reroll guardian

lofty depot
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in no way am i ever needing to know what energy i have in cat form

twin lotus
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I can't understand how are people defending hiding profiles behind subscription

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The congitive dissonance is insane

normal pilot
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wow players complain about how awful blizz is and continue to support them. it's entertainment it's not always going to be rational

pseudo merlin
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🤮

cloud citrus
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bro this drama is crazy]

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i guess 140k a year USD is worth it though

pseudo merlin
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It's the lazy unwilling to work because life is a scam and everyone is just trying to get rich off of your backs socialist generation that thinks it's okay to enrich yourself in any way possible because of the aforementioned

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🙂

digital plaza
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socialist generation 🤷

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blaming capitalist hellscape on socialist generation is also a take

pseudo merlin
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right, which is why I didnt

twin lotus
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its like a ritual

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before we drop our full moons, we have to moonfire

plucky valley
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You have to understand the importance of the moonfire

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Before you start running you have to tie your shoes

royal zenith
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it's less important this new expansion though

plucky valley
royal zenith
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so can I really trust you

twin lotus
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Is it? Shooting stars seems to be huge part of our dmg

plucky valley
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I am trustworthy

royal zenith
lofty depot
nova ocean
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It's funny that blizzard was like we see moonkins have to much ramp time on aoe because they need to dot everything for their mastery to work so we are gonna fix that

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Then they make all our damage come from dots so we need to dot everything

lofty depot
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first tierset things :/

cloud citrus
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gonna be crazy how strong shooting stars is going to be though

lucid olive
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so multidotting is not as valuable as people think

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this has been a thing for several expansions

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Shooting Stars and Solstice existed in SL as well but you wouldn't Moonfire more than a flat number of targets in AoE before spending the global on AoE spells was more worth

pseudo merlin
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SHS still works on square root scaling right

lucid olive
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something like that

twin lotus
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yes the tierset reads so strange

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buffing us outside of eclipse (the 2p)

lucid olive
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its only the AP gen outside of Eclipse

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the shooting stars buff is perma

lofty depot
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in m+ shooting stars doing like 16-18% of ur dam

twin lotus
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aah

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it could use a comma

lofty depot
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send your feedback to the forums

junior parcel
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Wording it like "Shooting stars deal 50% more damage, and they generate 3 additional asp outside Eclipse" would be far clearer yeah

royal zenith
drifting nova
lofty depot
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neither can the players tho

lucid olive
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tooltippers

lofty depot
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true, need gastank to say how it works

drifting nova
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but why the..in/out eclipse part

exotic perch
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bc you cant have fun in eclipse

lofty depot
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the 2nd part is out

inner garden
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guys

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when talking about the new balance, do i use eclipse and celestial aligment? or just celestial, it doesnt stack

cloud citrus
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Celestial then eclipse inbetween

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generally with treants that you cant CA

signal palm
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Can anyone list a few good balance content creators on youtube (pve pls)

pseudo merlin
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papercups

lucid olive
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real

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moonkin specific content creators don't really exist anymore

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game's not big enough to make money off it

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Tettles makes some Balance Druid content but it's not his main focus

signal palm
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Yeah... I mean a lot of other classes have very focused creators

pseudo merlin
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Does Naguura still make content?

signal palm
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too bad i guess

lucid olive
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Naguura makes a lot of content, but nothing specific to moonkin

signal palm
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She does, but not specific to moonkin

pseudo merlin
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oh

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rip

lucid olive
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publik maybe?

pseudo merlin
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defo publik

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oh and uhm

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the oven guy?

signal palm
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Azortarion for Hunter; Kush for mix dps; Preheat for mage

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etc..

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there are plenty

pseudo merlin
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preheat yeah

normal pilot
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don't they make stuff for all specs

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instead of just one tricking

signal palm
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not really

lucid olive
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yeah preheat is dev evoker guide writer

pseudo merlin
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yes

lucid olive
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lol

normal pilot
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for their class

pseudo merlin
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but like that makes sense for a dps class

normal pilot
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i can't imagine it's very sustainable doing content solely for a single spec

pseudo merlin
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especially boomkin

lucid olive
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yeah if your class is full of dps specs it makes sense

normal pilot
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maybe if feral was more popular you'd have more druid creators

lucid olive
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moonkin is not popular enough for it to be worth investing time in

signal palm
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So apart of the written guides - are there anyone making good vids for boomkin atm?

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Ah fair enough

lucid olive
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it's just Tettles

signal palm
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Fair

nova ocean
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He said good videos

normal pilot
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it's just hard to get traction on a single spec since you're at the random whim of blizz dev on how good your spec is

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whereas if you do lock or mage you can just swap around to the good one

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we had more content back once upon a time when balance had a dev that liked to overtune

lucid olive
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and the game was bigger so the spec population was larger

nova ocean
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I can't think of a time we were overturned on live outside of sl

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I didn't play before legion tho

normal pilot
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well ya sl was the prolly the last time

lucid olive
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i did 2 video guides that had 21k and 19k views for undermine and manaforge

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so guess there's an audience

sudden pawn
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it was me on 21k accounts

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im ur biggest fan

vital swift
lucid olive
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no

vital swift
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😢

normal pilot
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you don't need content creators to make vid guides tho

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just run the written guide thru ai vid generator

lucid olive
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real

royal zenith
lucid olive
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I don't really have the time for it when juggling 3 written guides and school

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I'll help Tettles make a video guide though so there will be one

vital swift
pseudo merlin
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read the next sentence

normal pilot
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you could prolly get decent viewers just running the compendium thru AI and putting up a vid on yt

royal zenith
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guide creators and good player...

normal pilot
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plenty of ppl that woudl rather hear the guide than reading it

vital swift
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i d say watch and copy

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to use knowledge further

normal pilot
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i'm gonna be rich

pseudo merlin
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only the script?

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smh ai work harder

dense steeple
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As long as he records the gameplay himself he can monetize this

pseudo merlin
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(I bet this is what tettlets does)

gritty pine
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With the addon "purge". is there a better way of tracking the eclipse buff?

pseudo merlin
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the CDM does it just f ine imo, did you try the cdm?

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pretty much just preference from there

gritty pine
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it looks like shit and its bars only

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but ye it works

lofty depot
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if u put it not in the bars window it wont be a bar

pseudo merlin
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^

gritty pine
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Much better

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ty

lucid olive
pseudo merlin
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so then it's you!

gaunt ruin
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Officially worst dps. Good job blizzard. Lots of love 😅

pseudo merlin
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its over

lucid olive
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arch OMEGALUL n

lofty depot
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love when i care abot prepatch ranks and use ai and its wrong

jaunty blaze
gaunt ruin
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Why should I not care. It’s the content that we have rn. I don’t understand why they don’t announce a class tuning to fix this

jaunty blaze
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Log off until release simple as

lofty depot
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theres not rank season.......

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did u get title before?

pseudo merlin
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Tuning is based around full release of xpac

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They're not going to do an extensive tuning pass to get things in line for a few weeks and then revert it

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it's micky mouse time atm

royal zenith
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buff bamkin

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for a better leveling experience

pseudo merlin
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(btw bamkin sucks even with apex talents so its like w/e)

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but still

lucid olive
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aw no my prepatch dmg on the bosses that die in 2 minutes 🙁

pseudo merlin
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can you still get dimmy mounts?

lucid olive
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ye

pseudo merlin
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crazy

lofty depot
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hes not a raider

lucid olive
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i heard someone say Ansurek mythic was soloable

loud kettle
lucid olive
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drops mount too

pseudo merlin
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whut

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100%?

lofty depot
normal pilot
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i'm on my way to becoming a content creator

lucid olive
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ah

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nvm then

pseudo merlin
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What if it turns out to like actually be good

gaunt ruin
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I play Druid since I started to play wow 20 years ago or something like that. I have to see my favorite class and spec in this position

pseudo merlin
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Do we replace Tettles

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Can we set up an all AI podcast?

lofty depot
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have u considered playing the game outside of the worst piece of content the game has to offer?

pseudo merlin
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play beta

royal zenith
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If you have played for 20 years, you have to know prepatch is like zero relevance

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being a bit dramatic

lofty depot
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he uses archon to justify why a class is good or bad, u think he uses logic?

pseudo merlin
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that's the real one

normal pilot
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yo it actually got the UI looking right

pseudo merlin
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I mean we're top 5

royal zenith
pseudo merlin
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scrap that, we're rank 2

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holy shit we're back

delicate perch
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Fucking log in

normal pilot
pseudo merlin
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LMAO

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WHAT IS THIS MOONKIN FORM

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Are we playing Tekken?

delicate perch
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Lmfao 10/10

loud kettle
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Peak

lucid olive
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that Starfall is based as hell

royal zenith
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that looks more like killer instinct

pseudo merlin
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It's legit making stars fall

gaunt ruin
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Go play a m+ with a warrior tank and after you will see that he will deal almost as much dmg as you maybe you will reconsider

pseudo merlin
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Good call, none of us have ever played M+ before

royal zenith
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won't catch me playing with a WARRIOR tank

pseudo merlin
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rookie mistake

lucid olive
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m+ in prepatch

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😭

jaunty blaze
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tragic

pseudo merlin
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im almost 3k

delicate perch
pseudo merlin
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title range is like 3.3

kindred geyser
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yo what changed on bala is it different to playy

lucid olive
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eclipse is a button

pseudo merlin
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eclipses

lucid olive
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other than that its no real change

loud kettle
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Bala dudu

celest narwhal
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u run feral now

kindred geyser
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no me owl

jaunty blaze
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Bala dudu 🥀

pseudo merlin
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😔 bala

lofty depot
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but u think im gonna reconsider m+ being shit content?

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doesnt make sense

royal zenith
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waiting for that moment people call it fera dudu

pseudo merlin
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I hope that day never comes

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(it will come)

lucid olive
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fearl durid

pseudo merlin
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cat durid

loud kettle
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we havent procd fera yet

royal zenith
loud kettle
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fearl farole gerald

pseudo merlin
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do you think fearl will be savaed before mdinight?

loud kettle
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No

royal zenith
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fixed it for ya

royal zenith
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fera dudu got introduced

loud kettle
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Its not the same

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Needs to be natural

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Organic is maybe a better word

royal zenith
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hmm..

lofty depot
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organic cat foot hmm

normal pilot
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i'm about to cast (on) starsurge

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haha is that that deserter debuff icon

lofty depot
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its crazy the only thing this thing has "correct" is the ui

royal zenith
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its not even looking bad

normal pilot
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yeah the ui is very spot on

royal zenith
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but is that like a chocobo balance druid

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cause I'd pay for a skin like that

normal pilot
royal zenith
normal pilot
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wtf i need more ai chips stupid gamers eating up gpus

royal zenith
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they caught you in their web now..

smoky furnace
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hey, how does balance look in midnight?

lofty depot
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can u be more specific

smoky furnace
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im back to playing and was wondering about how their will preform in dps , like mytic + and raid

lofty depot
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tuning still happening. u wont know how good a class is for multiple weeks into a tier

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m+ even worse so because they do tuning til halfway through the season so anything you do the first half means nothing

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gameplay wise, changing eclipse feels better

twin flax
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is it starfall on 3 targets + still ?

lofty depot
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dont know

meager storm
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erm

pseudo merlin
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Boys

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Kings

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Found a pog video

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😎

royal timber
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So I'm looking at new talents and stuff

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I'm seeing some places tell me to take Sculpt

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and that feels...weird

dense steeple
royal timber
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It's only two seconds off but does it stack up that much?

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Or should I opt for a different talent like Elune's Guidance?

lofty depot
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where are those places that tell you to take sculpt

royal timber
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wowhead

lofty depot
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smh gamz

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which tree says to take it

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also, we dont have sims so accurately telling u "this is bad" isnt possible

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but that talent gotta be like giga bad

royal timber
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It's for the M+ and delve build

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Which is why I came here immediately

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Because I've been playing this class a while and...I didn't know if that talent was real

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Or if it was a "Whoops" thing

lofty depot
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i mean the talent is real

royal timber
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But it's so far down the tree and...2 seconds

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I wasn't sure if I was missing something

lofty depot
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i mean theres plenty of us that dont think its good

meager storm
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most talents on our tree are pretty bad

royal timber
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Noted thanks

lofty depot
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but taking EG isnt exactly smart either

royal timber
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Go on

lofty depot
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but idk, no sims

royal timber
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No no I want to know what you think

lofty depot
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said no one eever

royal timber
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It's below zero outside, humor me

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Why do you think EG is bad

lofty depot
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the m+ talents dont have sculpt

royal timber
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And what would you take in place of it

lofty depot
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depends on what ur talents are that u have that u think arent better

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the EC spec tree is giga fucked because of the requirement of specific nodes

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keeper has a little more freedom, but i assume ur not taking some other talent that u should be

royal timber
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I'm playing Keeper right now

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I have one extra talent point to use

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because it was going into sculpt

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I basically have the delve build set up

lofty depot
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think uh eg with inc u dont gain as much as u might think

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which is even worse when u have free random procs from weaver and cosmos

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i think ok on ST in m+ but theres better value talents in aoe

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and with convoke its just worse

royal timber
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So throw it into mushrooms then?

lofty depot
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idk can u link ur tree

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take a picture

royal timber
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Delve build at the bottom

lofty depot
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thats not a picture...

royal timber
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it shows what I'm using

lofty depot
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sunseeker got nerfed, idk that its mushroom

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but ur doing afk delves soooooooooooooooooo sure

royal timber
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Oh it did?

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gotcha didn't know that

lofty depot
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yea because it doing hte same damage as wild mushrooms, meant htat wildmushroom was a dead talent

royal timber
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What about Umbral Embrace?

lofty depot
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is bad

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they thought because everyone took that always, it was a good talent

royal timber
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Okay so based on me not taking sculpt

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Where would you throw that talent point

lofty depot
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well again, i said mushroom

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u can take the afk version and not care

royal timber
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AFK version?

lofty depot
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or take the on use one and care

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...

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sunseeker is passive

potent cargo
royal timber
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You just said that mushrooms were a bad talent

lofty depot
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when did i say that

royal timber
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yea because it doing hte same damage as wild mushrooms, meant htat wildmushroom was a dead talent

potent cargo
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we really out here worrying about shit for fucking delves or what

royal timber
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There

lofty depot
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well theres 2 mushrooms

meager storm
lofty depot
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and that was a statement about before sunsekeer got nerfed

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and again

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were p[laying delves

potent cargo
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bro coulda cleared 4 delves by now

lofty depot
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where we turn our brains off and run around

royal timber
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So are they both bad?

potent cargo
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but hasn't stepped in yet because of a 1% dmg talent

lofty depot
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i just run around as bear

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idk why were minmaxing shitter talents prepatch delve content

potent cargo
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i need a fkn cigarette

lofty depot
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i assume ur gonna forget to use wildmushroom which is an on use ability

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and should use sunseeker cuz its passive and will give u free damage

meager storm
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boomy does negative damage, maybe even heals the enemy on prepatch just play whatever u want glorpNice

lofty depot
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but ur worried about something that doesnt really matter

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go walk into the delve and press ur buttons

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u could walk in without that talent point used and will kill the content regardless

royal timber
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I'm worried about stuff and am walking on constant egg shells because people treat me like shit in game for playing boomie so I HAVE to min max stuff just to gain an edge despite being a competent player because all people do is look at numbers unless I'm raiding

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and THEN they sometimes look at skills

lofty depot
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whos looking at numbers in a delve

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please give me their bnet

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so i can send them happy messages

royal timber
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"Ur bad ur bad ur bad" has been hammered into my skull for the past 10 years or more no matter the content I do

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I'm never a good player ever

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Unless on the rare moment when I run into that unicorn of a person that is nice

lofty depot
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well ill state this again... its prepatch, nothing matters and everyone is learning and are shit

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and none of the content that was current a week ago, matters or is hard to kill

meager storm
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well if u care about numbers on pre patch just play another spec

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we do no dmg

lofty depot
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mother fuck

meager storm
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there was raid testing?

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i didnt even know

lofty depot
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...

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useless

lofty depot
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shouldnt dratnos be getting u guys ready

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what the fric

meager storm
nimble tangle
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Nvm, I saw it, pvp…

lofty depot
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lol idk why i said dratnos tbf just watched a silly podcast

meager storm
#

we are fighting tanks

#

W

lofty depot
#

our buffs are coming

#

locken

meager storm
#

prepatch tuning

lofty depot
#

it doesnt get better on beta

meager storm
#

all that matters is after rwf

royal timber
# pseudo merlin bruh

Every season, every raid tier, any form of content I do....I get yelled at and told that

#

I can count on one hand the number of nice guild leaders and raid leaders I have had

#

Otherwise, I'm apparently the worst player in WoW according to anyone I run into

meager storm
#

again, if u care about numbers on prepatch play another spec, we actually do tank dmg atm

lofty depot
#

do u play in wr 6million where everyone is shit or

tame dome
#

Any recommendations for an astral power bar?

craggy sonnet
#

sensei or twintop

#

or get a cdm addon that has one built in

lofty depot
#

bettercooldownmanager
sensei resource bar
twintop resource bar

craggy sonnet
#

or get Enhance QoL (everyone should) .. it also has one

pseudo merlin
pseudo merlin
#

Good thing we have shitloads of tools that can make an objective assessment of your skill

lofty depot
tame dome
#

sensei and twintop look awful

craggy sonnet
#

like a lot

lofty depot
#

what

pseudo merlin
#

Which you can use to prove to both yourself and your haters that you do infact know what you're doing

craggy sonnet
#

wdym awful? you can style them how you like

loud kettle
#

real

tame dome
#

oh cool

pseudo merlin
#

twintops preview bars look awful

#

but like that's where the awful ends

#

it doesn't look like that in game

loud kettle
#

Twintops has a ton of options yea

tame dome
#

nice I'll try that

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

everything in that picture looks awful

lofty depot
#

how it look awful?

#

wtf

craggy sonnet
#

thats a chonker castbar

#

holy

fathom nebula
pseudo merlin
#

my lord

lofty depot
#

yes

tame dome
#

I don't like blocky stuff

#

I like things looking more natural and organic

lofty depot
#

i just made it bigger so u cna see on screen shot

craggy sonnet
#

and doesnt line up with your UF .. are you mental?

pseudo merlin
#

Does your castbar also have braille arctic?

lofty depot
#

what do u mena natural

#

organic

#

u like curved corners on ur icons?

#

objective wrong opinion

pseudo merlin
#

why are you like this

fathom nebula
#

I like my castbars as Hexagons

pseudo merlin
#

😩

fathom nebula
#

Cuz Hexagons are the Bestagons

loud kettle
#

real fix the alignment

lofty depot
#

AGAIN

#

I MADE IT BIG TO SHOW IT U FUCK

loud kettle
#

Hexagons are just mildly squished circles

meager storm
pseudo merlin
meager storm
#

there is an option for solo mode or whatever

tame dome
meager storm
#

yes u can

lofty depot
#

i turned that on so u could see it

meager storm
#

oh

pseudo merlin
lofty depot
#

well yes i know u can

pseudo merlin
#

when they yell at you

lofty depot
meager storm
loud kettle
tame dome
#

also the screenshot doesn't do it justice

#

it was animated

lofty depot
#

didnt ask

tame dome
#

the health pulsed like a heart

craggy sonnet
# lofty depot

this heckin innervate icon .. truly hate not being able to have dynamic side groups that only show on cooldown

lofty depot
#

im not raiding til midnight so meh

pseudo merlin
craggy sonnet
lofty depot
#

for true

craggy sonnet
#

dont want to see all these stupid utility buttons

#

i dont care about them

lofty depot
#

cant believe blud said "i like things more natural and organic" and uses a poe ui

#

fuggn brainrot

tame dome
#

how rude

tacit oriole
#

Maybe it was rage bait. Surely

pseudo merlin
#

tiktok UI

delicate perch
royal timber
#

So the tools have to be wrong too

lofty depot
#

what tools have u used to help u get better

tacit oriole
#

Everything but dreamgrove

#

In all seriousness though @royal timber have you tried the dreamgrove site?

pseudo merlin
#

get your shit together

delicate perch
#

wait no he's trolling

#

thats the guy that set paper off

pseudo merlin
#

really?

delicate perch
#

ya lmfao

#

99% sure

royal timber
#

Why the sudden hostility

lofty depot
#

ravec isnt suddenly hostile

#

look at his workout picture

tacit oriole
#

He’s beautiful and smart though

lofty depot
#

beautiful, smart, hostile

delicate perch
#

isn't he a p*ladin?

pseudo merlin
#

SHIT I DIED TAKING THIS SCREENSHOT

royal timber
#

Well there's one way to fix this

pseudo merlin
#

priest

delicate perch
#

yep that confirms it

tacit oriole
#

Make it a good one Rav

pseudo merlin
#

rock hit me

royal timber
#

And I had you blocked for like over a year "read the pin" thank you for proving to be a nice person

#

People can turn over a new leaf

lofty depot
#

@teal sphinx

lucid olive
delicate perch
pseudo merlin
lofty depot
#

me nice guy >

delicate perch
royal timber
#

You helped me out

lucid olive
#

hide behind rock

royal timber
#

So yes

lofty depot
lucid olive
#

boss does aoe dam that breaks rock or whatever

lofty depot
royal timber
#

and like I said, I can count on one hand the number of nice wow players I've met

lofty depot
#

oh im not nice, i jsut happen to be in a good mood

royal timber
#

I asked, you listened, and then gave your opinionto help me out

lucid olive
#

is it scriped which thing the boss goes to or is it just random @pseudo merlin

lofty depot
#

u might catch me later when morons ask about bloodmallet and u catch a stray

tacit oriole
#

That’s because he’s only objective

lofty depot
#

it happens

royal timber
#

I prefer objective to cruel

lucid olive
#

so its positioning then

pseudo merlin
#

ya

lofty depot
#

im not cruel

delicate perch
#

I am

lofty depot
#

im abrasive, theres a difference

royal timber
#

Also I tried to "preview" the new Elf House Style today....and basically had to delete my entire outdoor set up

#

So now, I'm never touching housing again

pseudo merlin
#

they both get destroyed triggering

#

circles everywhere

#

I keep taking screenshots at the wrong time

tacit oriole
#

Deadge POVs tend to take good screen shots

pseudo merlin
#

warlocks do disgusting dmg

lofty depot
#

hhave u considered using ur defensive

pseudo merlin
#

no

#

i cant dps in dispers

lofty depot
#

u aint dpsing outside of it

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

stupid

pseudo merlin
#

but i might

summer kayak
#

guys why i can't add new name for new UI ? i want to copy one of those online but i click on New Layout Name and nothing happen, so i can't use any of those preset online UI's . Any idea what stops?

vagrant isle
#

This eclips button suck.... can i macro it somewhere and forget it XD

summer kayak
#

?

vagrant isle
#

they say they made stuff esier but gave us more buttoms LOL

lofty depot
#

eclipse used to take 2 buttons

#

now it takes 1

#

easier

delicate perch
#

math checks out

vagrant isle
#

i have to have a extra button to press it LMAO

lofty depot
#

u lost renewals

#

so

normal pilot
#

just remove starfire ez

tacit oriole
#

use your 11th finger duhh

meager storm
#

we lost stellar flare so eclipse replaces its bind

#

scroll wheel up

lofty depot
#

5 surely

nimble tangle
lofty depot
#

twintops

nimble tangle
#

Ewwww

#

Never mind

lofty depot
#

yea need to get clanker to snipe the code and create the boomkin addon

#

with all the cool shit from all these addons

pseudo merlin
#

god warlock is so disgusting on beta rn

nimble tangle
#

I agree, I can donate to support

#

Tremendous American dollars

lofty depot
#

god warlock is so disgusting on beta rn
ftfy

nimble tangle
#

Very good very good (Trump tone)

pseudo merlin
#

15 pit of saron

nimble tangle
#

I have a boomie ADDON dream

pseudo merlin
#

????????

#

xpac comes out in a month

#

what are we doing

#

can warlock not be broken 1 patch in 20 years

nimble tangle
#

Just a replica of alfena boomie WA

pseudo merlin
#

alfena?

#

Afenar?

lofty depot
nimble tangle
#

Afenar

lofty depot
#

and no afenar bad

nimble tangle
#

Sry sir I don’t know anything about coding

pseudo merlin
#

calm down

#

afenar is goated

nimble tangle
#

My daily job is excel and PPT

#

And yapping financials

lofty depot
#

do u script in excel?

pseudo merlin
#

Gastank doesn't know anything about youtubing yet he's a youtuber now

#

just use AI

nimble tangle
#

I refuse AI

#

no AI in financial industry

#

This is a human industry sir

pseudo merlin
#

The financial industry has to be like

#

The least human industry surely

nimble tangle
#

AI can’t replace us talking shit to ops people

#

Or executive board

pseudo merlin
#

oh I bet it can

nimble tangle
lofty depot
#

i mean.... using calucatlors and model scripts ....... isnt ai

#

it sjust maff

nimble tangle
#

The only script I know

#

Is index

#

Sumproduct

lofty depot
#

need to move where u live and take over

nimble tangle
#

Welcome to America

lofty depot
#

sumproduct some middle school IT shit

nimble tangle
#

That’s how I take advantage of

#

MERIKA

#

oh btw, I feel I start to like CMC icons more

#

And sensei resource bar too

#

It feels smoother

solemn lantern
#

what does balance look like in midnight

#

have they made the class braindead?

nimble tangle
#

Actually I feel midnight boomie needs more skills

#

If u compare with demo lock and hunter, frost mage

pseudo merlin
#

bit more brainpower requried because of it

#

good class design, fun, tuning is not all there atm

nimble tangle
#

Tuning on 1/20 was far from enough

#

Imagine it is 2026 and you still have to manually moonfire half of the mobs

meager storm
#

well idk about good class design, only good thing atm is weaver being playable imo Smile

pseudo merlin
#

moonfire is good

meager storm
lucid olive
#

without meteorites and kindling

#

is it a log bug or

meager storm
#

i was trying diff builds on every boss

#

swapped to rattle

#

forgot i swapped

#

kicked in after opener

lucid olive
#

a guildie was asking me about starfall st and linking it LMAO

#

i told him you were psycho

meager storm
trail heath
#

when we locking the discord again for buffs?

solemn lantern
meager storm
#

1 min convoke felt good, but im sure is negative dps + i had like 43% haste so even less value

pseudo merlin
#

gotta press a button

solemn lantern
#

ya but if 2 charges it should almost always be up

lucid olive
#

15 sec duration 30 sec cooldown

#

the math isnt mathing

nimble tangle
#

I just wanna press sunfire and moonfire once for all mobs

meager storm
#

well

pseudo merlin
#

maths to me

meager storm
#

30s per charge Smile

pseudo merlin
#

100% uptime

#

get better

meager storm
native wharf
#

XD

lofty depot
#

and were not locking it now

stone warren
#

we did laugh at the paladins, though

lucid olive
#

you can treat it as just a 30s cooldown but you have 1 floating charge you can try and overlap with another minor cooldown

trail heath
quiet drift
#

2min memedream prepatch goated for it tho

stone warren
#

ngl, though, I'm really not a fan of our spec tree... feels like the "must pick" items soak up so many points, at least for EC, that there really isn't room to snag stuff that would otherwise be pretty fun to have

#

and other talents are like "did I miss something" levels of bad, at least at first glance

loud kettle
#

id rather suffer than be on the same team as ret

lofty depot
#

what in the ec tree that u dont have, do u think "would otherwise be pretty fun"

#

none of our talents that arent taken do that, and like 60% of our tree has 1-2% impact

meager storm
#

UE kinda good too, just behind OB

#

45k wraths xqcNoWay

#

when surges are hitting for 42k

nimble tangle
#

Oh also I’m not sure is it Blizz design or what

#

I cannot start a new eclipse or incarn when existing eclipse is on

meager storm
#

u cant cast eclipse on eclipse

#

but u can cast CA/incarn

#

during eclipse

lofty depot
#

why would u want to cast a new eclipse when 1 was already going 👀

nimble tangle
#

Oh incarn still like before?

#

Oki

meager storm
#

so u didnt try it

lucid olive
meager storm
lucid olive
#

think its good

nimble tangle
lucid olive
#

like surely the target count you want to spend the instant cast on starfire is lower than the target count you want to hard cast it

lucid olive
#

thats just in incarn though

#

basically perma solar after that

#

starfire stinky

lofty depot
meager storm
#

no dmg and sht ap gen garf W blizz

pseudo merlin
#

yall will never understand

#

😔

loud kettle
pseudo merlin
#

uncalled for

loud kettle
pseudo merlin
#

mods?????

stone warren
#

class is not a protected class 😄

meager storm
quiet drift
#

Pink or Orange we're all the same

pseudo merlin
#

not purples though

#

fuck purples

lofty depot
#

that whole range of like blue and purple

loud kettle
#

Except for @fluid flint

lofty depot
#

opposite of orange

#

very bad

#

very bad

fluid flint
#

All colours good ThumbsUp

lofty depot
#

u spelt colors wrong, and no

pseudo merlin
#

yeah I only mean class purples

#

not role purples

royal timber
#

What moron at Blizzard thought it was a good idea to turn our Eclipse mechanic into a fucking cooldown?!

pseudo merlin
#

A very smart person

loud kettle
#

just say you dont like it

royal timber
#

I have NO CLUE what eclipse I'm in because I'm so used to bouncing from one to the next

pseudo merlin
#

what

#

It's all starting to make sense

loud kettle
#

er

royal timber
#

and I'm so used to one spell or the other highlighting on my bars

sudden flame
pseudo merlin
#

So you're genuinely just bad at the game

#

That's okay

#

Use OBR

royal timber
#

Now it's just...press this one for single target and press this one for multi target and that's it

#

We're not balancing anything

loud kettle
#

shouldn't have been switching between eclipses over and over before

lofty depot
royal timber
#

It's a cool down and they just negated the entire thing

lofty depot
#

we didnt do that this expansion

quiet drift
#

Honestly always when there is class changes I love seeing the these weirdest complaints

pseudo merlin
quiet drift
#

Just things i'd have never even thought of

lofty depot
#

also u can track which eclipse ur in, in the cdm buffs

meager storm
#

it has been like this for a long time now

abstract parrot
#

your eclipse is just the last builder you sent how is that confusing

royal timber
#

The cool down manager makes my screen too busy and I've never used it ever

#

same with addons

lofty depot
#

"this thing that makes seeing a buff easier, i dont use"

royal timber
#

They just ripped apart our class identity mechanic

meager storm
#

what

royal timber
#

The cool down manager doesn't track that stuff it's an addon

lofty depot
#

our class identity wasnt eclipse

royal timber
#

Yes it was

lofty depot
#

and it shouldnt be

#

no

#

it wasnt

pseudo merlin
#

please

#

cooldown is one word

royal timber
#

Well what the frak were we balancing then

lofty depot
royal timber
#

HMMMMM

pseudo merlin
#

my sanity when you're typing

lofty depot
#

well, we werent balancing eclipse back and forth thats forsure

royal timber
#

Yes we were that was our class mechanic since MoP

lofty depot
#

it hasnt been that way since mop with the actual pendulum

royal timber
#

and now it's a cool down

quiet drift
ornate girder
#

this is tier 1 ragebait

keen kite
#

blame the devs of mop then

lofty depot
#

the last time we did anything "back and forth" was in legion/bfa with casting starfire/wrath with empoerments

royal timber
#

Press this button for ST and press this button for MT

lofty depot
#

mop was decades a go btw

royal timber
#

It means nothing now

lofty depot
#

no shit

#

eclipse bad

#

true

#

go back to empowerments

meager storm
#

it used to be cast 2 starfires to enter solar or cast 2 wraths to enter lunar what is the difference

royal timber
#

We did empowerments in this expansion

lofty depot
#

no we didnt

meager storm
pseudo merlin
#

Let's go back to SL beta eclipses where spending ASP would extend your current eclipse

royal timber
#

Yes we did, I was always moving between the two in this expansion

pseudo merlin
#

and you could have like a 1 minute eclipse

abstract parrot
lofty depot
#

thats not what that means

#

at all

#

and just because u were doing it

meager storm
#

moving in between the two as in, after solar u went into lunar then into solar?

royal timber
#

Whatever now I don't like you again because you're screaming at me

lofty depot
#

doesnt meant "we" were doing it

#

im not screaming at u

pseudo merlin
#

stop screaming at him

lofty depot
#

THIS IS SCREAMING

keen kite
#

lol so we liked having to spend 2 full GCD's to go into an eclipse in stead of 1 and a half?

lofty depot
#

"we" didnt like that no

#

but there do be a lot of people complaining about hte new eclipse

#

when its objectively better

keen kite
#

i forgot the ""'s

lofty depot
#

even tho i hate eclipse

pseudo merlin
#

I'll take current eclipse over them redesigning and fucking it up for another whole xpac

stone ocean
#

Is there any eclipse bars that replicate something similar to what we had before with weakauras the tiny trackers are really not for me

pseudo merlin
#

you can use icons instead of the progress bars (with default)

stone ocean
pseudo merlin
#

I think this iteration is fine

#

Boomie feels good to play atm

meager storm
#

like this?

stone ocean
lofty depot
#

smol bar no more

sly python
#

Is there a way to change the spell opacity pop up to touch of the cosmos isntead of eclipse windows?

inland glacier
#

so why do you guys like keeper more than ec?

stone ocean
#

Lemme send a screen shot of what I mean one second

inland glacier
#

is the gameplay more fun?

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

I think KOTG is more fun yes

lofty depot
#

why do u like spamming starfire

inland glacier
#

what makes it more fun?

pseudo merlin
#

trees

lofty depot
#

what makes EC any fun?

inland glacier
#

im not a balance player lol im trying to learn them

lofty depot
#

and if u say "cool space lazer"

inland glacier
#

i just think ec looks cool but i do want to try keeper

pseudo merlin
#

What makes it more fun is trees and CDR talent I always forget the name of

lofty depot
#

"looks"

sly python
lofty depot
#

we dont like a hero tree cuz of looks

inland glacier
#

the treants look stupid though

stone ocean
ornate girder
#

what about full moon that looks cool

pseudo merlin
stone ocean
#

The eclipse bar there is what I want also shout out dwilkz for having no the same weakaura as I had

pseudo merlin
#

I doubt that exists atm

lofty depot
#

i also dont have my buffs as bars

#

so

stone ocean
#

We are walking about the same thing @sly python

pseudo merlin
#

that's some WA tech

#

You'd need someone to really give a fuck to put that together

stone ocean
#

I sent a picture above trying to see if we can get something close

#

NAHHH

lofty depot
#

u can either turn that off

#

or turn down the opacity yes

#

but thats not a line that shows an eclipse

#

just so were clear

stone ocean
#

Yea

lofty depot
#

its called like class spell opacity or something

#

one sec

stone ocean
#

I am positive it can be done though

sly python
#

fair enough

#

wanted to see if I could get something clearcasting for mage

lofty depot
sly python
#

so that it was more obvious

lofty depot
#

now im confused, i thought u wanted to turn it off :/

#

no u cant change it

#

u can but your buffs or buff bar over there if u want for cosmos and eclipse

inland glacier
#

so in keeper you dont press starfire much?

sly python
#

yeah, the problem I have is the buff is tiny and im legally blind so seeing it is difficult