balance

[true viper]

holy buff

[fossil hemlock]

I wish they did more for the niche circumstances where it's helpful

[lofty depot]

sylvanas hotw healing

BRING ME BACK

[quiet drift]

real

[pseudo merlin]

Beta is huge

[quiet drift]

pressing Hotw on Pridefuls was nice too

when your Holy paladin wants to pad with his Ashen hollow so its down to you to the heal the seasonal mech

https://tenor.com/view/cat-monkey-banana-eating-sad-gif-6230069

[lucid olive]

they were fun on alpha, proccing a cinematic and its just Star Wars type rolling text describing the cinematic

[pseudo merlin]

hahah

did they add the music too

would be hilarious

[lucid olive]

no just raw dogged it

you could move your character too while it was playing

the rolling text was like in the world so you could turn camera and just not look at it lol

[pseudo merlin]

hahahah

Reminds me of shadowlands death animations

People would stand still and wait for it to go away

but you could just move

[serene pecan]

what do you think about elune chosen in mm+ atm and are your talents guys ?

[pseudo merlin]

my talents are not guys

they're just bits of code, non gendered

[serene pecan]

🙁

[surreal sierra]

what addon u use for this ?

[serene pecan]

im like this atm i dont know what u think about it

[maiden pasture]

especially because u then just had CDs for the buff

[lucid olive]

are you blasting

probably firmament over orbit breaker

maybe not stellar amp either

[serene pecan]

i dont think so

[lucid olive]

can take stellar amp if you play starweaver

if not you just do whatever other point tbh

natures balance or elunes challenge maybe

think mushrooms are bad for ec

[serene pecan]

stellar amp is the talent just under starlord ?

[lucid olive]

down left from ca

[serene pecan]

kk

[sturdy pumice]

anyone have a half decent looking resource bar addon?

[lucid olive]

senseis class resource bar

[serene pecan]

what would you change for ?

[sturdy pumice]

thank you

[serene pecan]

looks like this in game atm the ressource bar with the addon

[lofty depot]

why does blud keep saying this

[lofty depot]

whats the problem

[serene pecan]

there is no prob i just wanted to show to @sturdy pumice how the ressource bar looks with this addon

[lucid olive]

cause theyre just asking for a resource bar

[lofty depot]

oh differnt person with d

[lucid olive]

now if they ask for a cast bar as well i'll say something else

[lofty depot]

maybe theyre using some wrong addons

and could benefit with some guidance on using better ones

[nimble tangle]

WTF DID BLIZZ DO

WE ALIVE?

[nimble tangle]

How did you make utility all grayed out? I LIKE IT

[serene pecan]

i just fixed the opacity at 50% instead 100%

[nimble tangle]

Sexy French

[serene pecan]

:p

[nimble tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-6895956095664443130

[vivid current]

does anyone know if convoke the spirits is bugged? everytime i cast it in moonkin form it just ends early

[lofty depot]

can u make a video/gif to show what is happening

[vivid current]

sure gimme a sec

[abstract parrot]

do you ever drop starlord for anything?

[wanton socket]

Is it in a macro with something ?

[lofty depot]

no

[abstract parrot]

ty

[wanton socket]

It used to happen to me when i would macro with natures vigil afterwards so pressing it would go Convoke>natures Vigil and it would sometimes cancel it. If its in a macro, have convoke be the last part of it

[vivid current]

nope just getting into combat then pressing convoke raw and it does that

[lofty depot]

macroing vigil with convoke is definately a choice

[wanton socket]

What you mean, was biggest value

[lofty depot]

what happens when u dont use convoke

[wanton socket]

why wouldnt you use convoke

[lofty depot]

like in m+ when u dont play convoke

[wanton socket]

Well i had it on a seperate keybind, i just found myself forgetting to use it often so i just said f it and macroed it there so i def use it

[lofty depot]

yea so macroing it to your main cd that you dont talent out of is better

[vivid current]

https://streamable.com/1njpgl heres one from range

https://streamable.com/zniyr9 and another in melee range if it matters

noticed it started happening after the pre patch i was fine using convoke to finish my campaign quests

[wanton socket]

yeah but my thought process originally was to get both sets of empowered SS with NV but then i remembered that the 15sec CD wont help me so 😄

[wanton socket]

Very weird indeed

[quiet drift]

Vivacity is stopping channels

unequip the trinket

[pseudo merlin]

[lofty depot]

the fuck is vivacity

[vivid current]

holy shit it actually works now

[pseudo merlin]

trinket

[vivid current]

my trinket

[quiet drift]

[lofty depot]

wow i didnt know it was a trinket

WHAT TRINKEKL ASJDNFJKDSAKJFSD

[pseudo merlin]

Vivacity

[quiet drift]

Guildie had same issue earlier

[lofty depot]

I WILL

[vivid current]

thanks a lot friends

[lofty depot]

FUCKINGLKJ SKJLAFJKLDSKJFASDF

[wanton socket]

Not sure if its crazyer that you figured that out, or that they managed to fuck that up

[lofty depot]

this is why video help

[pseudo merlin]

Code works in mysterious ways

[lofty depot]

also, cotti gamer

know gamer stuff

[quiet drift]

Happens when guild full of nerds

sitting on vc for 10hours

https://tenor.com/view/tattletail-zamn-blender-gif-9198765100806793535

[loud kettle]

Why stop at 10

[quiet drift]

No more content

Bugs found, UIs done, Buttons pressed

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-20638062

[serene pecan]

is this addon is bugged for someone ? i cant custom it like i did 1 hour aggo

when i go to edit mod now i cant change anything reliated to this addon extra bar

[lofty depot]

did u try restarting game

[serene pecan]

i did redl the addon ect ect

actually i only fixed the bug just now

the clue is i have to disable all of my addons

then i can custom the extra bar

[severe raven]

does eclipse graphic on hud/prd disappear for anyone else? it shows up for the first cast then goes away

its there for 1 cast of either starfire or wrath then falls off the hud

[lofty depot]

its done that forever

[dapper wing]

Darkmoon deck of vivacity

the Root rot spell forces channels to cancel

do not use

[severe raven]

hey @lofty depot could you post a screenshot of your resource bar? how are you set up?

[lofty depot]

copied gamz bcdm string

ezpz

[abstract parrot]

is there anyone here who is using arcui that knows how to anchor ui elements together?

[severe raven]

could you share how to do that? i would set it up just like that

theres a string? where to import

[dense steeple]

ah damn he deleted it

[lofty depot]

when u type /bcdm theres a section for profiles

[dense steeple]

still, use the pin to get to the spot where its pinned

[lofty depot]

oh this rat deleted it

[severe raven]

/bcdm

[lofty depot]

cuz he feels weird promoting his ui

not here silly

[dense steeple]

holy

thats the kind of gigachad i want to work with

[lofty depot]

bcdm string

!BCDM_TVvBZTPUs4FrndiE1FeSXom1g8fHtAVFGwInjMPoMCWk3u3p0F73vs8UbJZl1T90otMEWOvAxPD1(8OvCced8dWpKMCB8Mi6Jdd3rmdtPpATn8MnrRcmdWMHl)YDPjpUD1WKnjpsB2rmySSUGKU0avbKcsxbni423POe4G6SfPoBrMoGKa84K0Ow0KgsqrtvqG2BnDDwVKzAQJwK6SLcnLgEFeMKgscdWtDVoaFD8kYAyqfeG1bM2n3pCt4UDb3eGNfswUMjH7TgBxUojLUWCzu8DRjqFKdW(rFLKVe6hFpB5CCYwco(BrGorGwc3N8iHpLWE2tU0NofYFskW5Dsm7tGAFvN)0)qS)vIB9q74hI2SXjSx9m1Amxn8hKy)LRKzHFD46W0WLKO0D8o3JEHozVmzBJaKmnY1bPHf47oNzaMdhn7tZtEkkLgHbdjVfMT4OemwvsqrqAGSMUKOo49ahMSoxL3Tj5MWnuLUyx0e2pMNf0c(MAVGTKGhfDB4JBy9Ds02OuEN5ZTD0hXrWSyvy6EMbXEJ7IPztBHlGat6mx4czu2KViWb7BmzILxUOvwHeUqzqHCoAfdMIE2GPKlNwf5evleumtUCXgOxkMCnxc0MAMqYvSnlm2YzO1N8SgEPH3eRsti3cYn0Y(WLC0Ng6oZ09tZDTD8XLRd17yPQCguiZGCzgKn4QLsPuiLMw(KdLjgsQYIq5WHY1O(H2Q3cNN1KZruSRPIWf61hxml8Y5s3PFSzFY9hOQzQ8CX(TlyfhI5ux3rn8CiLdhoQPI6lKkp0dCvtDx4Xm4zUJS8m8TAzdBD7DkllZjmXU0Y4QpEsMmi88047RSjYrSEh59Io7qngXkdiHks1PUqr(ghXYDrA5Bjr5r(dgqfrNlXyfzawrgjkQOiOkQPwIriRoqdsOOlmqcPRkttSOWYdowxejlklcnOPlQiiZBHQx9g2RQy5CPmOQXMdOn1gnPJkBtQnNeBaLkMLYvx4UqpFDMMGNL3I(aSp)RpKgTB3tH75Vz8MW7cGey(tTDSG4K1HRsEkOsoAilP7T3UlI8raLrm)hFGQ06z8fQ54Q5RPaCpcQLBg540bydsAYYyY(Q8eQ8wONgBHOesmh2aFFscznabSdqoydS1QyYSKvrZc3gExwY4hIwghUj(BSUXHt2XnrmdmHHFqTpmBJXtHp4U1E7os42LrJIV924Lq6)905nVT6dia6T9og2Hxy8QYHha0ttIxcdk2jj9Ea1aEA2EYA(7Mo2JPpYBgNj9o5mP3jNj9tJZ0pan1ndjZ)YqQYoLxkdPfK4nWwMHjjBG9VBVkoIMwLgPB6677oRKSeDt8VfSBofAlNkfO)nr5OcC)fA1aeUyaQu7VacDVDOYDIx1nC9XaYYrQPZ4cZp3ZWGY)HG62pfI2qyhNg)TV)5)ZJHRONq87F23)xaKwZicKg67F2eWX(wy6Q6iUh0ANGRhfr8OyPppy5gGRLqQLWSTcUMNaSInxjphCCVAR40SRXBHvlyRpRr)9pahbCU9hSMcM8YWnrmd8JCxb3T4dA9lqN2DOJrSwk9ITIFOA3NhMsIxUHQurbA0s0)8y02L7l28umhka9ogQrv4jLgGddTC8HeY0v38hlIyyquSzO5EkOdBiUjidc6)MKCp1GGbXmjDvuAMgyTtIUNAw0)l15qYJun3dZTOTKmGBtQtpCz827ygtHsCK0peeRajTpGSmaDz2IzbCwbbHJawxR)Og)UyDbfCc8dMKM8ez9O40OLmUPfyZw72blaX8OTYzSCtB5yEM3H0uUORjvtx8PnPKoHjfiH5JGFSULl1(Qixx0QYuNVqRLNXrKpDgclnGimLCZpNzxgz7Zhd78j5BcJY(clh9yAXzL(XXoMuWMxIYM)G9clMxzJVsDE8TZ0)ObyhjUss4ISuGNPJXqxCEChjHL)7fNcJliBiltG1DQswOdBB5ild)lFVtw5ykQqePSKsKk1HI7Pm88SD9yrel84VgB4ndZFAUNRV1qFBxN8o45ozbLRiJOIX1zDat)Z2XOqsmEHP)ul)cfnZGrXep22Z6aBYWBOHJvUOZ9STyTGlSum(sJrUzABKnEO9CglP8Eym1yKnvZyplFpBZfLgs5yC4KzMRZ7PDAMn2)AlJRyNoHMkWZ66zgy)8FFTTZORnM((SFZx3M6oK1zJXJNAxoSGxa77TO2la94o1DsXIb7nxUWHRa8vwotSmaY4zwSXvUdZ76vUl8kvBzFWl8UY(kJPC5Mz49E4FCWxAppBkyb2pFouQwVf2J4lsqaPxfV1ylV8HYewllmLjlm8gzBuSGbMdFrGAzWGxziMddQL3vvEJXIjZaWlJQR4WKBMHtR2G1ulM4z2HLZLu7G(QSot(PdJZhfsXw4G6yHQDC47cu)t743)ua3PEW8mP1zaNXaLS4HvHKOD)5vbQBYXOUoMSgw9lO0qLUB0PJ51BW)HT1odgeoOBhWG5wf7qiMLriv9vLblnjrxf3m7XAhpS)qe8HC58)dUWK9E1Tup5lL6sfps3o8BoAIWEpDxVoCsRNx2yfCUFiDieyxW1PKdYRdH6q6iWHGP1echVZasc))yRdBytt7TRI(k3yDuvKLpQui(4)BhZMxdE5V40BCehikJ0615soKg0lGO7ZK7Jdsth1RP5GgiQQEuXqCXe0pQusCJ8nNU1lKym5qImLSmwSy8NMdwFhLDHN)Ix(O2pZIW5Mh3HFqoDwGMxCXaRvdVtTEGTxO2kfw83(IbYx8yKdEULx5T4J(Q1YR0oFPFyvA50u3BBrxo4kuBTkmvR8s19QpVQW44cWvTWGHFmMt4clpnYCVbHdeErPzbduBIvH6cQlosk6ivgEeWBpLZ6cVJjCZu)vZKtVoln5bQ6Nqprn6zZeTvlauwQw)W07Ii5lWf1gQsA2NF11)Ll9BXbRplukrcir1(bKDgOjRECsam0DrDzj1Jt)mBL4V0pzEP3o6NaQOSMMuVR9GC6YI9ZuJ8QOZQROp4emLbQAIhp6RWuo)0Er6IhpKN)rSHuf1v7N7oD8K7Fle50P(sZ1I65udSDLsQsd6XJNTR8SsLUzE1gSPlzAFsuP)vmxEoSUFA82Ve1ScvDbw9A)QLeEowxhlN0RHnZQzecqYizH(pfi5m7ei)B8EKpsHuz1kl)tH8qIMC6XvU7yZZ)mQ538GJIspPr5zhLLb2Q9NldjIqQkhvoPwY1u7shB7u7VbSj)v8W8)9AAEoxtZBWbRoFhH75()Cv)9IBOs03f30UzF(CQNVa1EVcf86KNWKW7UlkD0CmT9tgq9uQtZR7cHEMb)0V3s)K8bDEYo292W2weVkYpE5xyIL3p6NGz5EgEaDT9pzF8V8wAguxmkei9twXnibb)))

thats big string

[dense steeple]

actual naiveity

[lofty depot]

hmm

[dense steeple]

not some dickbag who thinks they know everything

[nimble tangle]

So I created a profile with gamz string

Can I import to the existing profile again with new string?

[lofty depot]

Itll get over written presumably

[jade flume]

How the fork do u play bamkin now

[lucid olive]

you dont

[lofty depot]

We only spoon here

[jade flume]

How the fork do u play bamkin now if ur homies forced u

[lofty depot]

Find new homies

[shut rose]

is boomy better now

[lofty depot]

When was before

[shut rose]

with the buffs

[jade flume]

Too old for new homies

[lofty depot]

Those buffs are on beta

[shut rose]

yes i dont care about live

[lofty depot]

Well better sure it'll do more damage, so yes better

[shut rose]

i figured

ty

[lofty depot]

Weather that better as good as others, who knows

Come back in March 🙂

[loud kettle]

they ruined the fight back macro 😡

[lofty depot]

What the fuck

[loud kettle]

not enough people are talking about this hefty balance nerf

[lofty depot]

Thanks for bringing it to light

[tropic badge]

Is there a way to show astral power with blizzard default UI? It seems like Personal Resource display should be that, but it isn't

[lofty depot]

No

Small indie company, it's hard

[tropic badge]

Amazing

[fast parcel]

do we have a simc that works yet or is that still getting updated?

[lofty depot]

Still getting updated implies it's been updated at all 👀

(not yet no)

[south night]

anyone else having really bad dps as a balance?

[loud kettle]

im not

[noble fable]

i spent way too much time trying to figure how to enter eclipse now

[lofty depot]

Did u read the eclipse button

[noble fable]

i read the talent and since it wasnt a button before it didnt make sense

[lofty depot]

Just uhh reroll unholy for the time being

[noble fable]

i wasnt expecting yet another button

[lofty depot]

Do u think we have a lot

[noble fable]

i mean, my 9 buttons mouse is fully bound to something and now i have to figure where ill fit another lol

[lofty depot]

It's 1 less button press to get into eclipse

We take what we can get

[fast parcel]

can't wait to win 20% every single eclipse for 1 pull and parse

[lofty depot]

Renewal is the bind I replaced it with

[muted sleet]

yo where tf is my eclipse button

if i wrath am i jsut in solar now

[lofty depot]

Surely they'll change it to deck random so it's less cringe

[muted remnant]

Is it normal for the Cooldown manager to just fail sometimes and not show icons at all? I guess the "only visible in combat" option isn't too reliable

[lofty depot]

Drag it from the talent page prob

[fast parcel]

was already used to cringe rng from not getting 90% starsurge crits in p3 dimmy unlike top parses

[lofty depot]

And no, ur not in eclipse until u press the button

[muted sleet]

@lofty depot it says iuts just passive

am i special

[fast parcel]

balance side of spellbook

[noble fable]

you now cast wrath/starfire once and press the dedicated eclipse button to enter. it's not counter productive anymore either, you cast wrath and eclipse will pump wraths not the "other"

[lofty depot]

well thats not the talent page

[muted sleet]

i gotta figure out why wowhead has raid St as lunar

oh

holy on.

got it

[lofty depot]

or sorry it was

[fast parcel]

it changes to solar when you cast wrath

[lofty depot]

lol be blind

[muted sleet]

this is stupid

[lucid olive]

you just cast a starfire

[lofty depot]

it says solar eclipse

[vital hound]

add that to faq for sure

[muted sleet]

wheres my eclipse min max yo

[vital hound]

gonna get a mil of those

[lucid olive]

real

"why cant i enter solar eclipse" is top of compendium faq too

[muted sleet]

well i guess i have 2 seconds of min max if it only lasts 15 seconds so i gotta cast a wrath near the end of it

[vital hound]

ye

[lofty depot]

why do u need to cast wrath at the end

[fast parcel]

bring back ignore eclipse dragonflight rotation

[obtuse wedge]

anyone else have a problem simming their boomkin rn?

[muted sleet]

its a 32 second recharge and both charges last 15sec?

[lucid olive]

yes there arent pre-patch sims

[lofty depot]

sim no work

using old eclipse

have fun

[lucid olive]

yeah but you wanna see something funny, go read the tooltip of the talent

tooltip says its a 30 sec cooldown

[lofty depot]

u dont always use ur eclipse instantly

[muted sleet]

ohman.

[lucid olive]

but its actually 32 sec

[lofty depot]

it says 32 now

[noble fable]

not a fan. i'd rather skip the dedicated eclipse button and have the second wrath cast enter solar if available. last thing i need is more buttons to press.

[lofty depot]

big update

[lucid olive]

the talent not the spell

[lofty depot]

yea but who cares about that

[lucid olive]

flavor text in the talent

[lofty depot]

tooltip right

[lofty depot]

maybe they should say "it could be 30s cooldown"

ezpz

[lucid olive]

and if you take the 2 second reduction the flavor text changes

[muted sleet]

ahh so they just removed all min max and i can be in an eclipse forever

[lucid olive]

but it goes from 32-30

[lofty depot]

no

[lucid olive]

no

[noble fable]

nope

[muted sleet]

go no

[lofty depot]

u are now in eclipse not always

[muted sleet]

good*

[lucid olive]

its around 60-70% uptime

[muted sleet]

and what of the other 30-40%? Dots, ramp of cds? convoke?

[lucid olive]

which is probably same as last season for some players

[misty patrol]

Feels weird

[lofty depot]

and u will be minmaxing your ability to cast spenders

[muted sleet]

ok

i dont hate that

[lofty depot]

well u wouldnt press convoke outside of an eclipse let alone outside of CA

[muted sleet]

its entirely different

now

holy fuck.

[lofty depot]

its quite literally the same with less eclipse uptime

[muted sleet]

i gotta look at the specifics more

[noble fable]

and an extra button to press

[muted sleet]

cause like it doesnt matter when in an eclipse i use my spenders now correct?

[lofty depot]

1 less actually

[muted sleet]

theres no more xtra % dmg at the beginning

[lofty depot]

beginning of what

[noble fable]

how so?

[misty patrol]

Rip renewal

[muted remnant]

He means Balance of all things

[lofty depot]

theres extra damage at the beginning.. its just cds and other passives

[muted sleet]

like last season when you entered an eclipise you'd getl ike 20% power or something and it would decrease through the time of ur eclipse if i remember correctly

[muted remnant]

but that's still in game

[lofty depot]

boat still exists

[muted sleet]

ok

so im just over complicating and its pretty much the same

[lofty depot]

harmony still exists

trees damage increase still exists

i mean idk what u thought was taken away

[muted remnant]

it's the same just not 100% uptime and you need to plan around it

[lofty depot]

but u seem to think everything was gutted

[noble fable]

you now cast wrath, cast eclipse, 2 different buttons. you used to cast wrath twice, same one button, and you were in eclipse.

[lofty depot]

2 major things changed

mastery and eclipse

[muted sleet]

ok understood

[lofty depot]

eclipse defaults to solar, but we cast wrath regardless at the start of pulls

but you would wrath wrath dot trees ca anyway

doesnt really matter

[muted sleet]

ok so maybe im being traditional but this is awful

sweet changes blizz

[lofty depot]

if ur st-ing ur not casting starfire unless u need a movement global with owlkin frenzie prob

[lofty depot]

lol what part

[noble fable]

i guess i just dont like having one more different button to bind lol

[muted sleet]

idk i think the whole eclipse on use is stupid af

@noble fable forreal

[lofty depot]

if ur renewal button wasnt on a shit bind

u didnt lose one

or gain one

[misty patrol]

F1

[muted sleet]

i got HoTW on renewal now

[dense steeple]

@lofty depot ayo

[noble fable]

it was on a panic button bind. im not used to press that one on a rotation :\

[dense steeple]

do we play the tech deck?

[muted sleet]

last question, are addons and WA gone? or do i just need to update

[lofty depot]

u got 1 month to get used to it

[misty patrol]

Wa is gone addons are not

[lofty depot]

big buff

[muted sleet]

Heard

[noble fable]

i guess. still feels weird. not a fan.

[lofty depot]

i thought i had new tech

[dense steeple]

noted

[lofty depot]

but its not procing :/

they still havent fixed the timewalking items 😛

[lofty depot]

ull have to spend some time either making ur own CDM and other modules

or u can import strings from cool people that did the work for u

i chose the latter

[muted sleet]

i like the latter

send me that puppy 🙂

[potent shuttle]

this is going to be a dumb question but with bcdm, do i need to still use regular edit mode to move everything around or is there somewhere in BCDM that lets me edit and drag/move stuff around?

[dense steeple]

which trinket goes away

[lofty depot]

antenna silly

[lofty depot]

its on wowhead

[dense steeple]

just makin sure

[lofty depot]

bcdm string

[heady charm]

anyone know how to make astral power show with the resource power bar?

[lofty depot]

jesus thats fucked

[lofty depot]

bcdm string

k reply better

[lofty depot]

download an addon

[heady charm]

rip

[muted remnant]

what's the new heart of the wild good for? I assume bear form only?

[dense dawn]

LETS GOOOO!!!!

[lofty depot]

wg maybe heals good

[vale gazelle]

But blizzard said we won't need any new addons 🥺

[dense dawn]

Blizzard loves us agaiN!

Balance
Meteorites damage reduced by 10%.
Power of Goldrinn damage increased by 25%.
Denizen of the Dream damage increased by 40%.
Solar Bolt damage increased by 40%.
Lunar Bolt damage increased by 20%.
Wrath damage increased by 20%.
Starfire damage increased by 20%.
All ability damage increased by 6%.
Wild Growth healing increased by 30%.
Rejuvenation healing increased by 30%.

[lofty depot]

but the 30% hp increase kinda big

[lofty depot]

more like they love making meteorites a talent and being untakable

[muted remnant]

still wish we'd get back to shadowlands survivability again one day

[lofty depot]

also... let hte aura buffs begin

wooo

[noble fable]

"eclipse as a button wasn't great and is now embedded with a second cast of wrath" - blizzard, probably. Hey, one can dream 🙂

[dense dawn]

Yeah i agree, but everything else is buffed. Im doing M+ and i feel weak.

[lofty depot]

i hope were weak in m+

[dense dawn]

Why?

[lofty depot]

weve never been good in raid when good in m+

[shy falcon]

we are weak rn

[lofty depot]

sorry, i take that back... df s1

[shy falcon]

could dbe a spec thing

[lofty depot]

prepatch beign right now?

or midnight beta... being right now

cuz tww s3... not weak

[shy falcon]

week 3 is over

[lofty depot]

prepatch, is w.e.

beta were weak on both ends

[muted remnant]

Anyway, not to rehash this point too much but do you guys have your combat UIs active 24/7? Guess I'm wondering since troubleshooting is kinda hard to do

[dense steeple]

@lofty depot its free realestate

[vale gazelle]

12.1 Elunes rework will fix us

[lofty depot]

ur not locked in

[lofty depot]

most of it yes

[dense steeple]

im not exploiting ||i'm out of timewarped badges from buying mounts||

[lofty depot]

my buffs arent

i need to find a way to make buffs static in position

i hate it

[lofty depot]

imagine being poor

[muted remnant]

I see, alright, thanks

yea my buffs are flickering in and out atm

[dense steeple]

possible trinket fixed

[lofty depot]

problem being theyre like this and i want them just static not visible

but if theyre not visible like this it just starts from mid

[nimble tangle]

in one word, Blizz is ASS

[muted remnant]

Yea idk, whenever I enter combat after like 15 secs my whole Cooldownmanager just goes invisible

[dense steeple]

is it set to stay visible

[muted remnant]

yea

curse blizz, really

[nimble tangle]

Anyone tried platynator in retail yet?

[dense steeple]

you still havent sent me your danders profile yet

[nimble tangle]

I feel plater now is quite bad, except coloring

[dreamy cove]

is arcui arctic's ui

[lofty depot]

no

its an imposter

[lofty depot]

HOLY FUCK WE DID IT

wait shit solar needs to be left

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

[dense steeple]

still pog

actually

[lofty depot]

KK

fixed

[dense steeple]

the only reason you think solar needs to be left is because blizzard gaslit you to think that

[lofty depot]

i mean

i had to fuggn move this shit around

[dreamy cove]

can I get your ui

[lofty depot]

and find the incorrect order to order it

[dreamy cove]

at least that cdm? and resource bar

[lofty depot]

wowhead

copy gamz ui

[dense steeple]

in wrath we didnt have eclipse nonsense

there was no left or right

[lofty depot]

download bettercooldownmanager

[dense steeple]

solar can be right

[lofty depot]

then copy this into bcdm

[muted remnant]

Should we delete Details and OmniCD or do they still serve a purpose

[loud kettle]

details skins ur damage meter

id keep it tbh

[muted sleet]

is there an addon to track dots ?

[dense steeple]

yeah cooldown manager

[muted sleet]

ok so its all on that

[nimble tangle]

Oh so u want solar and lunar always stick together?

[muted remnant]

I see, well thanks but yea, gotta optimize whatever I can, I'll see later if I'll need it back

[nimble tangle]

I think I did the same tweaks last night too

[lofty depot]

well no

i would prefer if all of these wouldnt show until i had them

but if i hide them

then they come up centered and then as they come up

and i want them in a static location

[nimble tangle]

Oh u want buffs stay where they are as in the picture?

Not dynamic?

[lofty depot]

i dont like that cosmos comes up here

[nimble tangle]

[lofty depot]

i want it at location 2

[nimble tangle]

You are a weird person

[lofty depot]

I

[nimble tangle]

But I respect you

[lofty depot]

...... fair

muscle memory of location

[nimble tangle]

Only weird choose boomie

[lofty depot]

eye knows where said buff pops up

so i dont have to look at it

i can just know if movement was in that location. its cosmos

[jade drift]

which addon are u using for that bar

[lofty depot]

bettercooldownmanager

[jade drift]

damn thats neat

[lofty depot]

[lofty depot]

theres the string

IT RESSET

WHEN ILOGGED OUT

WHAT THE FUCK

[slim bane]

does balance druid have a kick

[exotic perch]

yes solar beam

[slim bane]

ty

[nimble tangle]

we dont kick

we starfall

[slim bane]

Everyone says this mage tower is easy now, it is not

[nimble tangle]

if u get bugged gear

its easy

[nimble tangle]

is it still worth tracking starlord

i mean, blizz fucked us

[slim bane]

I tried with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1v20L6qk9g and still no

[lofty depot]

idk prob

but ur not really in a postion to "waste" anything

most cases were not slamming surges outside of eclipse

[nimble tangle]

yeah, out of any eclipse, just fill AP to the max

then burst

[lofty depot]

ye

[nimble tangle]

based on my understanding

no bad to track starlord anyway, i just dunno where to put starlord buff

in between solar and lunar

or anywhere else

[maiden pasture]

dont think you needed to try it mate

[lofty depot]

because im tracking 6 buffs in that tracker

[maiden pasture]

it says in the title

😭

[lofty depot]

i didnt like how it owuld be betweek

cuz autism

[slim bane]

what does that even mean

[maiden pasture]

why did you try with that video if in the title of the video it says in capital letters it doesnt work anymore

[slim bane]

Oh ya I guess I can't read

[dreamy cove]

am I the only one getting bugsack errors with bettercdm and gamz's import string

[lofty depot]

no

[slim bane]

To be fair I tried this in the past when it did work, I also tried it just now without that gear and still couldn't do

[lofty depot]

feel free to ignore them

u can mute hte sound aswell

cuz that shit annoying

[dreamy cove]

well it's not tracking eclipse and ca charge so something is wrong somehow

[lofty depot]

no clue, people keep saying shit breaks and i havent had issues with stuff like that

restart game maybe and see if it works, or reimport it

or maybe u imported the wrong one

[lofty depot]

are those icons set to always visible

check that aswell

[dreamy cove]

ok I re-imported with a different profile name and it didn't give me error yet

[dense steeple]

we suck!

[dreamy cove]

I don't even know where that setting is
but it was fresh wow install + like 4 addons and aobut as fresh as it can get

[lofty depot]

in the edit mode

u click on the icons u want to change

[regal oasis]

my interface is giving me error sound when i imported this

[lofty depot]

hm

i can export mine really quick

its gamz that he sent :/

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yippie another wall

[regal oasis]

w8 i not express myself right, i imported and it was ok, them when i tried to enter combat its giving me "fatality" sound error comming from bcdm

[lofty depot]

ok

[dreamy cove]

huh your last msg had "n" as the end

[dense steeple]

are you up to date

[regal oasis]

yeah

[lofty depot]

go into bugsack

and mute it

and now u nolonger hear fatality and the game can break forever and u wont know

[dreamy cove]

nvm still bugged in combat, bah

[silver panther]

why is every dps using darkmoon: radiance?

[meager storm]

i wonder

its not really scaled down so it gives u over 100% crit

[tepid skiff]

What are the current stats for druids in raid?

[lucid olive]

intellect mastery haste vers crit

[meager storm]

ig they fixed it

[tepid skiff]

I checked the talents on WoWhead, but I don't feel like they're good—my damage output is really low....

[nimble tangle]

i have to say

platynator is way superior

so so much better

[dreamy cove]

what's causing my dash to light up

[loud kettle]

time spiral

[dreamy cove]

thanks

[dense onyx]

I can't find it in the pins or the guide, is there a way to track astral power outside of your tiny portrait? (resto druid setting up his balance offspec)

[lofty depot]

it was giving 3-6k secondary stats

[lofty depot]

download an addon

bettercooldownmanager

[pallid idol]

has anyone been doing beta boomkin keys and have builds they are thinking may be good

[lofty depot]

@dense steeple i fixed it

im dumb

[lofty depot]

were back

[dense steeple]

What was it

[lofty depot]

the centered thing

bascially if it proc'd it was starting at center

[eternal zealot]

What is the vibe fro M+ build right now? Wowhead guide contradicts itself like 3 times

Then this but the link to the M+ build links to an elunes chosen build >.< im so confused

[lofty depot]

guide is wip

[cursive mirage]

caught

[lofty depot]

also hes new

[cursive mirage]

arctic gonna get wardened

[lofty depot]

?

[cursive mirage]

I saw your pre-edit!

[lofty depot]

yea but warden doesnt care about that word apparently

[cursive mirage]

smh

[lofty depot]

now we can just say it and no one will get banned

yeayea

[cursive mirage]

warden hates Italy

[eternal zealot]

hehe yeah i get things happen, i just wanna know what to play lmao i did find a kotg M+ build but idk if i shiould play it

[lofty depot]

idk i just vibe did some shit, we do no damage on prepatch

if u beat anyone theyre shit

[cursive mirage]

yeah play keeper

cause its more fun

keeper mushrooms and starweaver

[lofty depot]

ec does more, but its unfun

so why would u do that

[eternal zealot]

this is not good news for me since i am shit already : )

[cursive mirage]

does EC actually even do more damage? idk man. Starfire does nothing

(i have not spent a second testing this theory because cba)

[lofty depot]

sorry i replyed to the wrong thing... uhhh

CYGA8cL7tpvige+kkmGM9zUPWDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjxMDwsYmZmZhBmZZmlx2Mmx2YZGjZGsghBYAW2GbYamZZEAAAgNzMzMD2MmxYAYmBAGA

probably some bullshit like that

[lofty depot]

it felt like it did more

shit dies too fast tho

idk

[wheat rivet]

dang im having a little bit of trouble with the new eclipse. i cant tell when its about to expire

[potent cargo]

use buff tracking

in cooldown manager

[wheat rivet]

ok im checking that

[rugged epoch]

Hello can I ask which hero talent is better for m+ at midnight?

[wheat rivet]

so the cd manager has all the toolkit tracking, but there isnt really a countdown on when eclipse ends

just tracking the ability to use eclipse

[lofty depot]

there is

its a buff tho

[wheat rivet]

ya i see the buff

i can just know to do as good of a rotation as possible when i pop it

short cd bursts

just gotta get a feel for it

[waxen pebble]

Is the darkmoon card busted right now? i see all the boomies in the top using it

[lofty depot]

it got fixed

gotta get ur broken parses before they fix it dawg

[fast sequoia]

does anyone else's bcdm break sometimes where everything except the ap tracker disappears and you can't open bcdm settings?

[waxen pebble]

I wasn't tryna do that, was just curious. I did buy one because of it big rip

[vernal pollen]

So how are we tracking eclipse other than those ugly little blizzard bars? The AP bar doesnt change color

Im using Gamz btw

[lofty depot]

eclipse buffs are on the cdm :/

the ap bar used to change color based on ur moonkin form or not

but thats not a feature

u can change the color fill and backgorund tho

[regal mauve]

Is there a way to put Eclipse into a macro? Because the ability changes names...
Putting Lunar or Solar in the macro only works for that one.
Putting "Eclipse" doesn't work.

[vale chasm]

What macro do you need that for?

[lofty depot]

1. what are u trying to macro

[vale chasm]

if you want to just use whichever is ready, you could just put both, no?

[lofty depot]

2 u could likely put /cast Lunar Eclipse and /cast Solar Eclipse under it and it work?

but again, what r u trying to macro to it

[vale chasm]

in the cooldown manager: Press buffs -> right click on the eclipse in the "Tracked bars" -> click add to tracked buffs. This makes it an icon in the CDM buff bar instead

for just a single eclipse

[covert talon]

So im a NF boomie but when Im going in my tree form im ending up in Haranirs treeform?

[lofty depot]

free race swap

ezpz

[vale chasm]

oh yeah, same 😄

[vernal pollen]

same

[livid jay]

a turbo-cat enjoyer

[round field]

the fuck is a turbo cat

i keep looking at these ui screenshots

and man

this shit is so ass

https://tenor.com/view/abysmal-dogshit-absolute-cinema-a-guy-gif-7719966734167801090

[livid jay]

the fast as fuck dash u can choose over wildcharge

[stone cairn]

Tiger Dash is what its called

[livid jay]

that one ye

[round field]

oh tiger dash

[livid jay]

its alright with gamz preset

[round field]

i somehow hate this even more than the one above

[livid jay]

u didnt even look at it!

[round field]

man

what a massive downgrade this cooldown manager trash is from weakauras

[livid jay]

u just saw mahranaka post a ui picture and instantly got the reflex to hate

[livid jay]

yes 100%

but its at least playable

[round field]

id rather gouge my eyes out than stare at this for a raid night

[stone cairn]

I use vanilla UI with a helpful dash of edit mode. I hate UI addons, they're always so buggy

[livid jay]

i mean this is vanilla ui + bettercooldownmanager

[round field]

im pretty sure those unit frames arent vanilla

[livid jay]

yea they are uuf

[stone cairn]

Action bars doko?

[potent cargo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1qj7xt0/how_streamers_are_abusing_the_stream_together/

@delicate perch @glossy jungle chingers spotted in this clip

abusing the shit

[livid jay]

who needs action bars 😛

i just hide em

[stone cairn]

me

[glossy jungle]

already posted in guild about it. absolute human 🙂

[round field]

sir you cant say bad words like that

[glossy jungle]

there's a nice reply in graycen's twitter post @'ing chingers

[potent cargo]

hHAHAHAh

just saw it

[delicate perch]

LMFAO what a creature

[livid jay]

if you want your vanilla action bars to look a bit nicer you can use masque to skin them

[potent cargo]

is that your burner bro

atmmachine the goat

[stone cairn]

I just want them to look like they do in MoP classic.

Id be set for eons

[livid jay]

maybe there is a masque skin for that 😄

community can make skins for masque

[stone cairn]

I will look into it

Probably tomorrow with breakfast

[livid jay]

just need masque blizzard action bars addon to actually be able to skin the blizzard bars with it

[stone cairn]

Masque the blizzard bars with blizzard bars from 2012

Wheeze

[livid jay]

possible 😄

[stone cairn]

Hope so

Thanks for the pointers

[livid jay]

🫡

[pallid bay]

gamzUI

[livid jay]

almost

had to swap moonfire and sunfire

and i had to add starlord to buffs manually

no clue if bug or if gamz actually not tracking it

[drifting nova]

can we just go back to addons pls

ty

[rocky crag]

question how are yall keeping track of starlord stacks

[drifting nova]

with vibes

[rocky crag]

LOL

im a newer boomkin and not having how many stacks is so annoying

holy

[drifting nova]

screw starlord how do you track eclipse

without wa

[livid jay]

just track it as a buff in cooldown manager?

[drifting nova]

the hwat now

[rocky crag]

it doesnt say how many stacks

[drifting nova]

[livid jay]

as an icon not a bar

[rocky crag]

i dont see it anywhere

can you add stuff to it?

[livid jay]

take it from tracked bars and drag it up

to tracked buffs

[vale pebble]

well u dont rly care how many stacks u have

[rocky crag]

i c

[vale pebble]

u want to dump start of eclipse anyways

[drifting nova]

where even is that

[vale pebble]

ur gameplay loop is eclipse > dump all ap inside of eclipse frontloaded > pool up redot preferably out of eclipse in starlord > eclipse

so with starlord u care about the duration

mainly the duration of it outside of eclipse

because u should automatically saturate starlord inside of eclipse

[drifting nova]

too many toggles, back to classic time

[round field]

wait

ui doesnt track starlord stacks

[sudden marsh]

which nameplate addon is this?

[drifting nova]

I'm sure the benefits of these changes will appear..soon

[livid jay]

no addon

base ui

think i didnt have stacking ticked in this screenshot

the stackign algorithm is pretty awful tho

doesnt really work

[sudden marsh]

atleast they arent ugly 😄

[round field]

its finee

its just prepatch

[livid jay]

yea they look alright, better than i expected

not sure yet if i wanna try plater tho

[drifting nova]

waiting for the addon tuning knob

[vale pebble]

it does

im just saying if ur thinking that u need to track them ur doing something wrong

[livid jay]

yaaa

but these bars are ugly af

worst part about cdm

rather have it as an icon

[idle forge]

Is there any replacement hack for tracking sunfire moonfire on large packs? I got used to color coded plates

[livid jay]

playing keeper

[idle forge]

Damn it you’re right

[rocky crag]

in single target

[livid jay]

a friend said yesterday that he thinks keeper does more damage in m+
i tested both and EC felt way better imo
any thoughts?

[rocky crag]

do i want to use the free starfall procs when they come up

id assume so right

[livid jay]

yes ofc

[rocky crag]

ye

[livid jay]

they can give u free surges aswell

[rocky crag]

yea!

thats awesome

[drifting nova]

EC feels like dog

so prob true

[livid jay]

felt alright

[vale pebble]

u need to use this before your next spender

to not waste the chance of getting another proc

[livid jay]

btw how do touch and weaver interact? Does it always consum touch first?

[vale pebble]

idr which one it consumes i cant lie

u want it to consume weaver tho

if anything

and i think its weaver just because i didnt rage at it

[livid jay]

i think its touch but im also not sure

[meager storm]

weaver first

[livid jay]

ok

[vale pebble]

yea cuz im pretty sure

ive played a weaver loop

with touch up

[livid jay]

yea this way around is much better

[vagrant stratus]

how is balance going to midnight gameplay wise?

more fun?

[vital hound]

same shit one new (not really) button

fun

[vagrant stratus]

still squishy or?

[livid jay]

you currently play weaver so u gotta judge for yourself i u like that more

[fickle swift]

is there a way to remove this ugly yellow swipe

[nimble tangle]

I don’t think we can remove it

Basically Blizz is ass

[drifting nova]

surely it gets fixed by release

surely it gets fixed by the last titan

[last hornet]

The last titan hype

[merry ibex]

is there any good resource for videoguides on druid balance rotations and stuff?

preferably for PvE content but not just people showing keys done where I cant understand what hes doing, rather some sort of explanation about it

[obsidian jetty]

[vale pebble]

dont think any good one came out for this current iteration of moonkin

[wispy parrot]

does anyone have a usable Platynator profile? i copid the Luxthos one but its terrible

[calm island]

Is there any real reason to cancel starlord stacks anymore?

[meager storm]

pretty sure u cant cancel it at all

[calm island]

oh

cant cancelaura it?

[meager storm]

nop

[calm island]

cool

[drifting nova]

mandatory one button rotation by then

[livid jay]

pressing eclipse cancelauras it automatically now

[delicate perch]

logging off also cancels it

[hollow mist]

nice one cavey

[smoky prawn]

Any insights on what talents we are playing in m+ during prepatch times?

[craggy sonnet]

you are a clown .. thats what you get for just importing profile

[craggy sonnet]

real and true

[cloud lion]

Maybe quazi

[craggy sonnet]

jundies also released one

[tired granite]

Jundies

Can find on wago

[wispy parrot]

cheers

[delicate vine]

Hey guys, prepatch andy feeling like a complete and utter moron here - M+ ivll161 did +13 Ara (Timed if it matters lol) avged 18.5k DPS either we suck or more likely I'm a dumpster, send help doing very much 11.2.x styled stuff with new talents and clicking lunar eclipse every 15s, something definitely not ideal 🥲

Open to (constructive) roasts for being ass so long as it helps me git gud lol I feel like I must be doing something wrong

[pallid bay]

hows feral, still in shambles?

[sudden flame]

[modest snow]

I'm in the same spot and from what I gather we're just kinda really weak atm

[tired granite]

Yeah p shambolic

[delicate vine]

To be honest I'm glad to hear that, Ofc its all designed for when we're lvl80 apex talents etc (lol the new spec DH for example without them is.. yeah..) just wanted to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong

[pseudo merlin]

tag @lucid olive

make a pre patch video guide

smh

aint no way youre going to make people read

[pseudo merlin]

did they give back BRS yet?

[pseudo merlin]

balance is dead, but also dont look at end of dungeon details

Post logs or sommat

[drifting nova]

was there a desc of why eclipse had to change

or was it a vibe change

[fossil hemlock]

It was shit

[drifting nova]

even doing only a norm dung yday it felt balls

[fossil hemlock]

Maybe push your limits and go for a delve next

[pseudo merlin]

I think most of us are on the boat of new eclipse good

[fossil hemlock]

I haven't had any issues with new eclipse

[drifting nova]

ok but why

[fossil hemlock]

Takes some getting used to

[pseudo merlin]

more gooder than the previous system atleast

[drifting nova]

so far it only has downsides

[fossil hemlock]

Like what

[pseudo merlin]

Ok I'm going to hear this take

[drifting nova]

gcd

[pseudo merlin]

Go ahead

[fossil hemlock]

It's a half-gcd

[drifting nova]

and half gcds suck, not that there are many

[fossil hemlock]

Complaining about the half-gcd is pure cope

[delicate vine]

Will log this 12 Streets and do so

[fossil hemlock]

What other downsides?

[honest widget]

Hey guys, what do you think about the changes with eclipse? (clicking the eclipse which have longer cd than the actual duration)

[pseudo merlin]

new eclipse good

[drifting nova]

a ranged half gcd is not the same as a melee hlaf

change for the sake of change isnt always good

[delicate vine]

Dislike, micromanagement and no WA to track it for me sadge I hate change - but also GCD oof

[pseudo merlin]

ok but like is the gcd your only problem or

[fossil hemlock]

"only downsides"
"Repeats the same extremely minor one"

[honest widget]

for me, i play balance since BFA, and im not feeling it this datadisk

[pseudo merlin]

have you met shadow priest?

[delicate vine]

Aren't they popping off in raid rn?

[pseudo merlin]

I think BFA is the worst iteration of balance in the history of the game

[drifting nova]

the rotation barely changes from passive eclipse

so the limiting of a half gcd

feels worse

than regular half

[pseudo merlin]

I'm talking about the fact that it gets a complete overhaul every other week

[fossil hemlock]

BFA was fine at least in raid for 1 season, but it just kept being the same over and over and over, and starfall being useless was bad

[red mantle]

Only thing worse design wise than bfa boomkin is vanilla boomkin

[pseudo merlin]

I just hated the whackamole gameplay in bfa

You never ran out of STF/Wrath charges

it felt so fucking bad

[honest widget]

i dont mind i need to click it now instead cast 2 spells to proc it, but the cd is too long for me, i just have times where i dont have any eclipse, and thats soooooo bad, when everything is about eclipses, even apex talents

[delicate vine]

I have been watching the only essential part of Shadow memes 🥲

[pseudo merlin]

im going to likel genuinely disagree even with that

I hated BFA so much

[red mantle]

Main problem was bfa pulsar making starfall completely unusable

[pseudo merlin]

They dont know what they want with SL

[fossil hemlock]

Well starfall just also didn't do anything

[red mantle]

That too

But BFA pulsar design was incredibly bad

Incentivised never pressing starfall even more

Bfa expac and raids were banger though

Banger zones and banger raids

Sylvanas/war story was whatever but who cares

[honest widget]

i just think only about the eclipse design which totaly suck for me now

its really, really bad

[fossil hemlock]

This should only be a thing after very extended combat

Between 2 eclipse charges and 2 CA charges

And dumping AsP at the end of an eclipse

Then regenning AsP out of eclipse before you enter and dump again

[honest widget]

ye mayyb, but i dont think its good to use CA just for maintaining eclipses

[drifting nova]

eclipse could go back to being entirely passive and nothing major would change

it's a nothing burger change

[fossil hemlock]

I mean that's what CA is

[fossil hemlock]

Disagreed

[drifting nova]

it's so much of a nothing burger change

it's offensive to pretend it is a change

change for the sake of change

[honest widget]

in higher m+ you just use it for big packs, then is chill for a bit, and you dont want to use CDs for small pack just to have eclipse

[quiet drift]

They will matter more with Apex talents

but ye currently they feel just as bad as before

[fossil hemlock]

Being able to dump AsP at the end of an eclipse instead of needing to sit high so you can dump in boat because you're forced into an eclipse right away again

[drifting nova]

I'd erupt if I have to think about a whole whopping ..4? new talents

[mild phoenix]

pvp is shocking too monday i was dominating today i die to everything LOL

[fossil hemlock]

Is definitely a change

[drifting nova]

for an expac

[fossil hemlock]

I dunno, sounds like you have a skill issue kekkers

[drifting nova]

theres a possibility

the lens through which we view the game

is so giga shit now

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah but your lens is covered with mud

[drifting nova]

any change is..deemed good

[dire osprey]

ngl i kinda hated the 4p, but now its gone

it feels empty

no dopamine

[drifting nova]

it never matters whats in the game but how its shown to you

[vale pebble]

rf effect

[quiet drift]

Im pretty sure it is very widely accepted that Eclipse is just jank that is forced onto the spec for class fantasy reasons

[drifting nova]

except now its a lazy half button

[quiet drift]

But knowing this you can choose to doompost or just live with it

[drifting nova]

instead of passive

[fossil hemlock]

Definitely is, but this version is a lot better than the last one

[quiet drift]

What passive do you want?

[drifting nova]

?? theres like no difference

[fossil hemlock]

I literally wrote the difference

If you're going to engage in the conversation, read what the people you're talking to are saying

[drifting nova]

except now it's a mandatory button to be pressed on cooldown (which it will probably eventually become that)

[honest widget]

the fact i have 15s eclipse on me, and CD for the eclipse is 30s, is so insane

[fossil hemlock]

?

Unlike what Kekkers is saying, you're not meant to go straight from eclipse into eclipse

That's a massive waste of boat window

[drifting nova]

not meant to..now

it'l be ruined by end of xpac

[vale pebble]

u cant just press it on cd

[fossil hemlock]

[vale pebble]

thats the thing

[honest widget]

and thats bad bad feeling

[fossil hemlock]

Nah

[vale pebble]

its so chills that

one guy says

[drifting nova]

introducing a half button

for the sake of an active

is annoying more than anything

[vale pebble]

bad because u press on cd
2nd guys says:
bad because u dont press on cd

chills deluxe

grow up children

ragebait better @drifting nova

[fossil hemlock]

Eclipse is just short controlled burst windows, if you're not playing around them being burst windows yeah of course it feels like shit

"Burst" windows

[honest widget]

its bad for me xd i dont like it

[drifting nova]

slurp less

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-meme-alien-dog-dog-statement-gif-13429066535213053756

[quiet drift]

Doubt anything major is happening to them till Last Titan

[honest widget]

ye who knows, but i dont get it, they said they want you to feel more powerful when you are not in eclipse, but a whole apex tree is only about to proc eclipse, so wtf xd theyre su dumb

[fossil hemlock]

Did they actually say that? They want us to be more powerful when not in eclipse?

Because I have a hunch they said the exact opposite

[quiet drift]

ye when did they say that?

[fossil hemlock]

In TWW we were perma in eclipse, any spells cast outside of it was a huge waste

[honest widget]

oh i think i just read it somwehere when alpha ws coming

[drifting nova]

wait..they say things?

[fossil hemlock]

Now we have out of eclipse where we build up and in eclipse where we dump

[honest widget]

but its waste anyways, even now

[fossil hemlock]

No?

[quiet drift]

They simply said they didnt like it being the expectation to be in eclipse 247

[fossil hemlock]

As long as you don't overcap on eclipse you're not losing dps

[quiet drift]

So now with 15s duration and 30s cooldown

you will have eclipse downtime

and as was said before controlled damage windows

[honest widget]

so you building 15s max AP?

[fossil hemlock]

Not 15 seconds no, but maybe 10 or something

I haven't timed it

[honest widget]

you have it done in 5 seconds on big packs

[fossil hemlock]

And that's enough to bridge the gap between CAs

[honest widget]

then 10s you waiting?

[vale pebble]

Its on avg

[honest widget]

hell nah

[quiet drift]

If youre talking M+

[fossil hemlock]

Why are you on 0 charges of eclipse?

[vale pebble]

5 ish seconds of pooling

[quiet drift]

You have downtime

[vale pebble]

Per cyclw

[quiet drift]

So you will have more eclipse uptime in combat anyways

[vale pebble]

In straight up st

[fossil hemlock]

And you will also need to dot mobs up, do that out of eclipse and you gain a lot of downtime too

Which means you have higher eclipse uptime when actually putting out damage

[fossil hemlock]

Are you entering eclipse the moment combat starts?

[honest widget]

but anyway you do 40% more starfire dmg in eclipse, you losing that anyways, you losing the starfall you build up in eclipse, etc

no just dot everything then burst

and eclipse

but in long fights you just are out of eclipse

[fossil hemlock]

You do 40% more starfire dam in eclipse?

Oh right, that's tied to eclipse itself

[minor anchor]

Anyway to display astral power as a bar with numbers seperate from my hp bar without addons?

[honest widget]

you do, and 15% arcane, and thats starfall

[fossil hemlock]

Not without addons

[minor anchor]

G_G

[honest widget]

when you do burst window you have stacked starfalls, all after eclipse is -15% starfall dmg

[vale pebble]

lie buzzer

depends how good u play

u can be out of eclipse at 4minutes

or u can be out of eclipse at 8minutes

[honest widget]

well what you can do when you fight 4 minutes

[vale pebble]

ur forgetting the fact that u have 2 charges of inc and eclipse

[honest widget]

ye you do have them

[fossil hemlock]

Incarn gives you more than 1 whole charge of eclipse back

[honest widget]

it doesnt

or?

[fossil hemlock]

It lasts 20 seconds

[vale pebble]

its not more than

[fossil hemlock]

My bad, brain fart

[vale pebble]

its less than

[fossil hemlock]

I will correct my statement, you regen almost a whole charge

Which still gives you 15 extra seconds of eclipse time

[minor anchor]

if you count not having to press the eclipse than yes but nobody would think about it like that

[vale pebble]

u can just go oom on eclipse instantly

if u want to

u can solar clip with incarn wait for it to run out solar clip with incarn

[fossil hemlock]

I think people are just not adapting to the new rotation and attempting to stay the same as before

[vale pebble]

u burst the most in lust with this

so this is technically best if u have a 1min fight

[honest widget]

i mean you are just oomed with eclipses on long fights, in m+ its a whole dungeon, and i dont like to be oomen with eclipses yeah

you can play slowly ofc

[minor anchor]

u guys playing Incarn on 1minute fight instead of Convoke?

[honest widget]

in dungeon never convoke

[minor anchor]

agreed

i would rather "in WoW never convoke" but it IS what it is

[fossil hemlock]

Sure, if you somehow have every mob pulled instantly after old pack dies, and dots also somehow instantly applied, and also permanently full astral power so you're ready to dump in eclipse

[vale pebble]

think u should play convoke

if its st 1min

might be beta bias tho

cause its not really the same

[minor anchor]

Gimme a reason to never click convoke again and im all in