balance

[lofty depot]

oh uhhh

why do u have surge and starfall as icons

or at the minimum surge

[nimble tangle]

so i can see the free surge/starfall highlighted

[lofty depot]

thats what these are

flare icon is starfall

[nimble tangle]

i made modications on BLIZZ CDM

[lofty depot]

weaver icon is surge

[nimble tangle]

yes i see them in buff section

but i want to have spells highlighted there too

sorry it is just my noob mind

[lofty depot]

yea time to change mind

but tbh... idk that u can have 2 bars

[vale gazelle]

I tried setting up CDM but as soon as combat started all the icons and cooldown manager disappeared

Using Better Cooldown Manager

[lofty depot]

theres also not an orbit breaker tracker so is fun

@vale gazelle is this a thing

[vale gazelle]

Yep had that on, i left combat, changed talent tree and then it stayed on. /shrug

Random day 1 bugs

[lofty depot]

weirdge

[nimble tangle]

also countdown fonts so ASS

how can i make countdown fonts bigger

i can only adjust stacks fonts

[lofty depot]

in bcdm

or is that the stacks font

[nimble tangle]

in bcdm i only found stacks font

[lofty depot]

global tab?

[nimble tangle]

essential tab

[lofty depot]

go to the global tab

[nimble tangle]

oh

OKI

[fast finch]

when are we pressing eclipse?

always forget to press it lmao

[drifting nova]

so what actually changed today

[nimble tangle]

my M+ AOE can only reach 570K

SO ASS

[lofty depot]

when the time is right

[royal zenith]

Well considering you play hello kitty adventure island, nothing for you!!

Gottem

[torn brook]

amen

[drifting nova]

you dont even know

[royal zenith]

I know all

Is it worth logging in or not this week

[drifting nova]

why ask when know

[lone hornet]

why is it now a chore to know whether i'm in eclipse or not

[lofty depot]

i dont think its a chore

[drifting nova]

because it's cata again

[royal zenith]

Its the same as pressing any other button for an ability

[drifting nova]

and you need an addon to know

[lone hornet]

it no longer highlights your empowered spell, in cata i had a bar to look at

[royal zenith]

Is there a prio list yet @lofty depot

[drifting nova]

miss that bar

[royal zenith]

How high are dots on the prio list

[lofty depot]

no

sims no work

[tropic pollen]

I'm sure there are better places to ask this, but just in case anyone here knows, is there a way to remove these buffs from the top of my unit frame?

[nimble tangle]

seems i cannot move potions to essential cooldown...

[tropic pollen]

My hero

[lofty depot]

go into your uuf settings->player frame->aura

[lofty depot]

item not item and spell

@royal zenith whats the over under on me getting banned if i go solo dimmy

i dont gain anything from it cuz i have mount and achieve.....

but exploiting game does feel bannable

[royal zenith]

Exploitable is bannable yes

Regardless

If they care enough is pt 2

[lofty depot]

but they left the funny items in the game

its not my faultttttttttttttttttttt

[royal zenith]

Tell that to rexteoy

Rextroy…

[lofty depot]

am i supposed to know who that is

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

thats not this

is different

[normal pilot]

ban arctic

[fair bloom]

anyone else unable to enter manaforge

[round field]

uhm

yes?

[lofty depot]

big fyrakk dam

[livid jay]

so what addon is everyone using for their ap bar?

[lofty depot]

bettercooldownmanager

[livid jay]

any other addons u got to replace weakauras?

[lofty depot]

too many

but bcdm is most of the "weakaura" esq stuff

just copy gamz profile

have to turn on cdm, import his profile for that aswell

[pallid bay]

[dusk spear]

is there any info on what we're supposed to do? my eclipse isn't highlighting anymore

[trail oyster]

you gotta hit the button

[sly summit]

Hi, I have a question: where should I paste the UI code? 🙂 lol

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-butters-hello-kitty-gif-14455860143615553237

[delicate perch]

finally someone speaking the truth

[lofty depot]

haters everywhere

[fair bloom]

i installed cdm centered am i stupid

[delicate perch]

probably

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

idk what that means so probably wrong

[surreal terrace]

is there an easy way to show me (in numbers) how much astral power I have?

[lofty depot]

its the edit mode profile

[surreal terrace]

I hate having to guess

[delicate perch]

count each cast

[lofty depot]

does the personal resource bar not do that

if so then rekt, download an addon 😛

[sly summit]

Thank you so much, I'll try it there but it won't let me. I'm sure I need to do something 🙂

[nimble tangle]

item and spell section can move it to essential cooldown?

[lofty depot]

well no u cant move the items to the essential cd

thats not what its for

u can move the items in the items tab

if u rather them under the essential cds

[nimble tangle]

ugh so potions tracker can only be set up separated?

[surreal terrace]

this is what that looks like

not super helpfull XD

[round field]

lmao

good one

[tropic pollen]

Is anyone having bettercooldownmanager just have stuff randomly disappear in combat? My utility bar sometimes goes missing, othertimes the whole thing.

[delicate perch]

gotta tier 3 sub to gamz for perma cooldown showings

[lofty depot]

uhh yea so u download an addon 🙂

[dusk spear]

Was it mop where we had control over eclipse? Why can't we go back to that version

[lofty depot]

people have said that someone said they changed talent trees back and forth and it fixed it

[normal pilot]

you can't pay devs to repeat old stuff

[lofty depot]

because mop was when u were 12

[normal pilot]

you must make new things

[lofty depot]

and we hate that

[surreal terrace]

so how do you guys track AP?

[lofty depot]

bettercooldownmanager

[delicate perch]

is this bait

I'm too tired to tell

[surreal terrace]

I used to use weakauras

[lofty depot]

u and everyone else

[delicate perch]

not me

[drifting nova]

I'm a resto druid now, gg

efflo follows people

[surreal terrace]

so no one knows?

[drifting nova]

who is no one

[normal pilot]

are you legally allowed to heal someone kekkers

[drifting nova]

test me

I'll let you die

my og main was hpal wdym

healer at heart

[delicate perch]

[drifting nova]

solo healed a hard at the time boss on hc

[dusk spear]

Ok, so this is a legitmate question. Before, eclipse was "you cast wrath in solar eclipse, and starfire in lunar eclipse". With this new button, why would you ever cast starfire? Seems the solar/lunar dichotomy isn't a thing anymore

[normal pilot]

ya it's not a thing

[drifting nova]

so why would you cast starfire

[lofty depot]

well if u want to hit more adds because starfire does more damage in aoe

[drifting nova]

assuming it's still dogwater

[normal pilot]

it's an entirely new system

[lofty depot]

u would hit starfire instead

or u would want to buff starfire instead

[normal pilot]

they're just scamming your nostalgia by keeping the name eclipse

[lofty depot]

so u would hit starfire :/

which is gonna be like a funny thing with people

if u use your owlkin frenzy proc

then send eclipse into lunar

but presume using starfire instant cast is actually a beneifit outside of eclipse for movement

[tulip snow]

then that leads into pulsar right?

[lofty depot]

no

[drifting nova]

did talents reset

[nimble tangle]

what is the difference between "item" and "item & spells"

now i realized "item" is what tracks potions

[drifting nova]

spells arent physical

items are

[lofty depot]

stead shot is physical

is a spell

[drifting nova]

on bout tracking no?

not abilities

smh

[lofty depot]

that is what i said earlier

but idk the diff

i just knew how to change it cuz i did it earlier

[drifting nova]

fuck, only did a 9 this week

guess it doesnt matter anyway

[tight dagger]

any build up for ST ?

[drifting nova]

wait..they broke tmogs

ah hell no

[lofty depot]

wowhead prob

but nothing is concrete

play w.e. go test some shit

some classes will be op others will do half dam

[tight dagger]

xtrue

[lofty depot]

were never lucky, so we do half dam

[tight dagger]

just need a starter setup, WOWHEAD got one

[drifting nova]

...my main tmog set is in french

blizzzard y

why break things

[lofty depot]

i cant tell if i want my icons above my asp bar or not

was before

[drifting nova]

and its another 2.5k

cringe

[lofty depot]

but then if i do that, when shit breaks ill have to fix it again instead of just copying gamz profile.....

[potent cargo]

no buff/debuff filtering is v cringe

but at least we have addons to clean shite up

[drifting nova]

I take it incompatiable addons are giga bricked right

[potent cargo]

just update the .toc file in the addon directory with ## Interface: 120000

and that'll make most of them usable

until patched up

[lofty depot]

the buffs not being correct in my cdm making me angry

i want them in an order

[drifting nova]

dont make me see modern numbers, dont do it

[round field]

so good seeing all u losers struggle with addons

[lofty depot]

i also want them in a static location when they proc

[drifting nova]

the hwat nowe

there is no file

oh..each individual addon

not the folder itself eww

[round field]

????????????

[nimble tangle]

how did you move trinket to essential cooldown section?

[potent cargo]

I just overlay it

over some shit idgaf about

placeholder

[nimble tangle]

[spice patrol]

any have a m+ build works pls

[potent cargo]

holy fuck buff tracking shit

is so bad

[lofty depot]

i hate it

theyre not in static location

[drifting nova]

welp screw prepatch

miss me playing addonless

holy

[lofty depot]

and they dont show up in order

[drifting nova]

did they test any of this

[livid jay]

wtf happened

[potent cargo]

ya

i put htem in orer

and theyre all over the fucking show

[lofty depot]

people hacking

[potent cargo]

so dogshit

[livid jay]

elaborate pls

[lofty depot]

click on the kill

[livid jay]

not my screenshot

[cursive mirage]

you can bug scaling with timewalking items

[drifting nova]

gear DIFF

[loud kettle]

Specifically wod I think

[drifting nova]

just get 60ilvls from timewarped gear

[delicate perch]

lmfao @potent cargo

[pallid bay]

thanos

[potent cargo]

[lofty depot]

the items are off the vendor now

but yea

[drifting nova]

entirely or reduced

[lofty depot]

entirely

[delicate perch]

the one time I read trade chat

[potent cargo]

love how

my weak aura for buff/external tracking

has been replaced by a pos version by blizzard

and my weak aura was perfect and this shit is hot ASS

[lofty depot]

u dont like hot asses?

[potent cargo]

like yeah nice blizz

very good ordering we've got going on here

absolute dipshits

[cerulean light]

you control the order

[drifting nova]

save your sanity

and logoff

[lofty depot]

he clearly doesnt control the order

[potent cargo]

i will test without bcm

[tulip snow]

I think using BCM and center align bugs out the order when in the edit screen

[potent cargo]

oh wait

still doesnt work

like with bcm centering off

[tulip snow]

damn even with a reload?

[potent cargo]

ah well im sure it'll get fixed eventually

[tulip snow]

probably

[spice patrol]

does anyone have any idea for a viable m+ build? the one on wowhead is trash af

[potent cargo]

@lucid olive builds trash lil gup

[drifting nova]

so is blizz gonna mail me 3k for tmogs or

[delicate perch]

why the fuck does my (gamz') weakaura just decentre and go bottom right after I move it

fucking wowhead writers

[small elbow]

I don't see bcdm, after importing. I see it for a nanosecond when I'm moving it around. Is there another addon that could block it? I thought maybe Sensei, but no difference

[potent cargo]

are u using bcm

[delicate perch]

ya

[potent cargo]

in the settings for essential

u have to move it in there

[delicate perch]

wtf

ty

[nimble tangle]

look what blizzard did

[lofty depot]

someone earlier said they swapped talent trees and it fixed

i assumed maybe restarting game

i didnt have the issue at all so idk

i go to sleep have fun

[small elbow]

Nah I see it, it's just stuck at the bottom even when I move it in Essential

[delicate perch]

you have to enable regular blizzTM cooldown manager

[livid jay]

hahaha

cleared in 6:54

[somber nexus]

does any1 have a general idea how to see the damage u do on adds?

[lofty depot]

Adds of what

And in game not in a log?

[sudden flame]

[somber nexus]

sry i figure it out ty tho

[livid jay]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[nimble tangle]

WTF

HOW

[frigid niche]

someone have a good ui to spend ?

[potent cargo]

mfw racials arent trackable or

I can see there's a module in there for it in bcm but hard to imagine this works lmao

[livid jay]

maybe u need 1 small actionbar for everything thats untrackable 😄

[potent cargo]

hmm

[vale pebble]

they were on beta

[potent cargo]

bcm seems to work so we take that for now

[vale pebble]

cant wait to get home and lose my mind completely

[potent cargo]

anyone know if there's a way to uh

get rid of this ugly ass light sweep overlay

ts fucking rancid

[merry ibex]

eclipse feels kinda bad on the gcd

I cannot lie

[merry ibex]

I think arcui can

the uh one second

[fossil hemlock]

It'll help when we get apex and it does damage

[merry ibex]

I think its that option but dont me too mad if Im misremembering

[vernal pollen]

ya because of that light i forget to refresh dots. Little mouse brain I have

[potent cargo]

hmmmm

[vernal pollen]

this is the last problem with my UI, these random spells that wont go away?? Not sure what setting its under

[potent cargo]

probably ur utility or some other bar

in cooldown mgr

[merry ibex]

Does anyone have a reall clean nameplate profile I could steal? I used KUI and it didnt get updated

but the default plater nameplates are a mess

[potent cargo]

if you have expressway font and a nice texture:

[vernal pollen]

Expressway bis

[potent cargo]

theres something weird going on with frame stacking bs

[vernal pollen]

is this for Playnaytor

[potent cargo]

idk what/why but

neg plater

i will swap to platynator at some opint im sure

just too lazy rn

[vernal pollen]

oh weird, I couldnt get plater to work at all

I'll try that import

[merry ibex]

Is expressway font not one of the ones that come with plater? Do I need to download it seperately?

[potent cargo]

this what my shit looks like now

you can use w/e font you want, mines just expressway

cooked enough

[frigid niche]

plater work on prepatch ?

[fleet thorn]

anyone got resource bar that doesn't swap to energy/mana when shapeshifting but can track those elsewhere?

asking for a friend

[drifting nova]

nothing works

[misty forge]

Just done a quick +12 to see how EC feels like and my god, I must be fucking up badly cuz I felt like I didn't have eclipse stacks quite often

[vale pebble]

do u want only ap bar?

[fleet thorn]

yes sir

[small elbow]

Is it uuf? If so, where do you enable % health?

[merry ibex]

blizzards nameplates would be tolerable if I could reshape the god damn things

they are too wide

[round field]

blizzards whole ui would be tolerable if it wasnt a steaming pile of dogshit

[sudden flame]

blizzard ui would be good if it wasnt bad

[tawny cloud]

Id like to know if you can get an AP bar only to show you can move around

[wise jewel]

is there any good ui available already? too old to make mine from scratch again

[drifting nova]

what if the natty ui isnt so bad

what if

[frigid niche]

can we do a macro for hearth of the wild bear form . i try to make a macro to switch bear then hearth and switch back to moonkin form . is it possible ?

[fossil hemlock]

It should be

[drifting nova]

but why

[fossil hemlock]

Because it's a defensive?

#showtooltip Heart of the Wild
/cast [nostance:1] !Bear Form
/cast Heart of the Wild
If you spec fluid form and reenter moonkin form with wrath/starfire, this should work (probably (most of the time))

[drifting nova]

eww back to that cringe button

[frigid niche]

thanks it work

[delicate perch]

gamz ui in pins is fine enough

[tidal kraken]

hey is that normal when i press on eclips it cancel starlord buff ?

[worthy flint]

How do i import a CDM without /wa ? 🙁

[vale pebble]

yes read starlord tooltip

[tidal kraken]

thanks

[frigid niche]

someone try to sim on raidbot ?

[jaunty blaze]

There are no sims yet

[merry ibex]

Hi, one question, I was reading some talents and one called Eclipse says it increase solar or lunar spell damage, depending. How do I know what is a solar or lunar spell? Like for example StarSurge

[errant coyote]

Good Day. Have some problems with guide - https://www.method.gg/guides/balance-druid/talents if i try to add Mythic+ (Elune’s Chosen) - i see deafferents between quantity of talent's number/ In game i can choose only 30. And in guide 31.

[livid jay]

@lucid olive

[lucid olive]

Can go to wowhead guide and get talents from there

[errant coyote]

Thank you very much

[ancient radish]

is any1 having issues importing the cooldown manager string?

[delicate perch]

no

[lucid olive]

You read the tooltip.. Wrath, Sunfire and Wild Mushroom are nature spells. Moonfire and Starfire are arcane spells. Starsurge, Starfall, New Moon and Fury of Elune are astral spells. Astral damage is nature+arcane

[sand isle]

Hey guys, is there a better way to track AP than just under our nameplate?

[frigid niche]

is 411 haste ( 43% ) to much for 485 mastery (35%) ? wowhead don't says "stat caps"

[blissful star]

What's the stats prio during prepatch?

[frigid niche]

mastery haste but don't know % haste needed

[sudden flame]

why do you need to optimise stats for prepatch

[sudden flame]

because theres no such thing as stat caps

[potent cargo]

intended bro

i like a bit of chaos (just a bit)

[potent cargo]

not at pc but its something like player frame, tags, and then the options down the bottom let you pick what tags u want

but yes uuf

[small elbow]

Ye found it, thanks though!

[delicate mica]

Anyone else feel like any spell you hit has 0 significant impact? Feels like you do no damage

[potent cargo]

[livid jay]

what does everyone feel like eclipse uptime in dungeons is?

[drifting nova]

0 I dont press the button

[livid jay]

baseg

[drifting nova]

shouldve probably logged druid to see but eh

itl still be a disaster in 2weeks

[serene hound]

Can you copy gamz cdm directly? Cause for me it is not working

[blissful star]

arround 70%

counting with incarn

[livid jay]

i havent had the chance to play yet

doesnt it fell ass to be out eclipse 30% of time?

[drifting nova]

thats the point

something something friction

[livid jay]

oh u mean my pov is skewed

[misty forge]

Yeah was the same for me in a +12 priory

[livid jay]

and i should think damn eclipes feels good over this shit

[drifting nova]

be grateful for the crumbs blizzard gives us

it could be worse

could be 3%

[livid jay]

oh and btw i assume the control bug is still a thing?

[drifting nova]

is the pope catholic

[wary ruin]

someone has a decent build for today? 🫠

[merry ibex]

ooh, so if i have 15% bonus nature dmg and arcane dmg at same time, then i get 30% bonus on astral spells or just 15%?

[potent cargo]

astral is both spell groups

so any amps to either apply to it

[strong bloom]

so we can't force solar eclipse in M+ spec? is this a talent build stopping the eclipse button from changing?

[potent cargo]

r u playing ec

[strong bloom]

for m+ yeah, is that the reason?

[potent cargo]

ya read your hero talents

(lunar calling)

[strong bloom]

got it

thanks

[misty forge]

Wowhead one is good

[sand isle]

Hey so to make Gamz profile work in the BCDM, do I also have to port something in the original CDM or do I keep that empty?

[craggy sonnet]

you gotta import the thing from wowhead

 1|PdC9S8NgEAbwXnRxsJtyV1Ti4mT1H1CHxEUpFQoWHWuTgFBbLWa3RVyC1sFB3EqnYFcpuLaLX+DsB1R0cNSKHzh5TwaXH3e55H1zz27/Tp1LlepxhvPsJGK08ssue1qsxkGdb7nJDW5zlk/ktSXEQn06KZwK1bgnZGhzf650A6EDobbQtizOCe0Lhfwu1JHWkY4fQn4S2xNK4twOp4VsMQbFiHNKjGU8HFY2ZsAs2iFUWVAEJbAJtnD/hXLXRXUNbsAVuMQr0XkjYBSMKWvP4AXtBJgE0c9MgWks/yP2AD4vix2g/1YeF1B9gQ/wKdYh7mmKdZaIGZk39hvje/97+VgS++jEqHKK02ag2bqagobFvSg79tjRZDQRCitL82V/3TGTppUr5Ip59w8=/

if you want the same setup

[sand isle]

Oh okay thank you man

[craggy sonnet]

ofc you are free to change stuff however you like

in the default cdm

[drifting nova]

less clanking

[gaunt ruin]

I feel lost. I used naguura ui until now. I logged in and everything is missing. I was used to grid2, suf, weakaura and now nothing works at is was…

[potent cargo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/1qhgln5/help_midnight_addon_purge_which_replacements_to/

refer to this for replacements

[dense dawn]

Genuine question... Does blizzard hate us as a spec?

[potent cargo]

can replicate 99% of UIs with not too much thankfully

sUF can be replaced by Unhalted Unit Frames, grid with danders frames, weak auras with cooldown manager w/ better cooldown manager

[drifting nova]

was that sentence in english?

[potent cargo]

you forget how to read my boy

[obsidian tapir]

what playerframe / target frame is gamz here using ?

as my elvui is rip

[craggy sonnet]

Unhalted UF

[drifting nova]

blizz shouldve just nuked every addon

[potent cargo]

shouldve just nuked the game

[drifting nova]

like at this point

idk what addon works

and what doesnt

[craggy sonnet]

All that say 12.0

That's the good part. You can't load out of date addons

[true anvil]

is balance badly.. balanced? i cant go pass 30k dps on cleave training dummies lol while on my dk i sustain more than 60

[sudden flame]

[fathom blade]

Bro i just came back just to see how balance will be for Mightnight and first thing i see in pins is buff bamkin, nothing new 😂

[spice roost]

thats ok ferals bottom of the barrel

atleast boomie is half decent

[spice roost]

midnight is almost 2months away

[jade jacinth]

Half of my addons don't work, and aren't shown. What do i do? 😮

[thorny sentinel]

sorry if that was asked already, do we play KotG or EC in M+ ?

[thorny sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvSz3sNEm10 look at this

[livid jay]

FREE

[jade jacinth]

how fix?

[spice roost]

update it probably

if u did already than it wont work oh well

[jade jacinth]

Managed to fix bartender now only Quartz and MSBT isn't working 🙁

also: Can't import cos i can't add a name so idk what to do here

[fossil hemlock]

Double-check you're importing the right thing into that box

[jade jacinth]

what is the right box?

[lucid olive]

how many imports do you have saved

[lucid olive]

you're trying to paste the Edit Mode string into the CDM

[jade jacinth]

idk any of that means 🙁 what do i do

[craggy sonnet]

unlucky .. and here i was thinking that this actually looks like an edit mode import for once

[lucid olive]

that paste goes here

[craggy sonnet]

but bro is trying the reverse

ESC -> Edit Mode

[jade jacinth]

im tryna import this

[lucid olive]

Yes that's an edit mode string

and not a cooldown manager string

[jade jacinth]

ok 😮

[lucid olive]

The cooldown manager string is further up the page

[craggy sonnet]

gamz, are you planning to do a video?

[void salmon]

How Does Solar Eclipse entering work now?

[lucid olive]

no

[craggy sonnet]

unforch

[lucid olive]

press button

it enters eclipse

????

profit

[void salmon]

I only have Lunar?!

even in keeper

[craggy sonnet]

press wrath

[lucid olive]

press wrath

[craggy sonnet]

it swaps based on your last used builder

[void salmon]

Ohhh Isee

[lucid olive]

or you can suicide and it will go back to solar

[craggy sonnet]

(or resets to solar after wipe/entering world)

[lucid olive]

[void salmon]

Cringe

[gaunt ruin]

Can't paste the text in editmode import or cooldown manager import.

[livid jay]

Oh look a socially awkward nerd that can’t give a straight answer without being condescending.

[lucid olive]

good one

[craggy sonnet]

gotta find new ways to brick this..
are you trying to import the BetterCooldownManager string?

[sudden flame]

mr beast will be missed

[gaunt ruin]

no. in editmode

and cooldown manager

[craggy sonnet]

but what are you trying to import there

[gaunt ruin]

idk man. to be honest i don't understand much. looks like a new game

i got the add on now and worked to import the string

[daring compass]

Hello, did someone find a way to have dots glow up when they are fading in less than 5s ? Im using ArcUI but i can't find a way to do it

[craggy sonnet]

default cdm does that

im not sure .. i think this bugged out a bit when i tested arcui on beta

[craggy sonnet]

and by extension most cdm addons

[smoky prawn]

can someone tell me where i turn on the astral power bar in edit mode?

[craggy sonnet]

default?

[lucid olive]

need an addon

[daring compass]

might be a bug with ArcUi then ? they look like that all the way through

[lofty depot]

U download an addon

[craggy sonnet]

personal resource display

[smoky prawn]

thank you very much

[lofty depot]

That's not the last 5s tho

[smoky prawn]

hard to track starfall/starsurge spending without those bars

[lucid olive]

yes arcui messes with the pandemic glow

[craggy sonnet]

arcui does have settings for glow stuff

but idk if it just bricks the pandemic

[daring compass]

yes that's why i ask, i would like them to not have any glow until the last 5s

[lucid olive]

it bricks pandemic

had same issue on beta forever

[lofty depot]

Silly arcui

[lucid olive]

its a dogshit addon for any spec that isnt enhance

[craggy sonnet]

yeah, i know it was scuffed on beta

hmm idk

it can do a lot of stuff

[lucid olive]

its because of how arcui hooks into the CDM icons specifically

[craggy sonnet]

you cant with any other one

[lucid olive]

yes and most of stuff it can do are cringe workarounds

that are either bad for performance or will be bricked with a patch

[craggy sonnet]

where have you read that?

[jade jacinth]

Anyone know how i can get MSBT to work again? 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

combat text addons are mostly bricked

[lofty depot]

Probably wait til it gets fixed

[lucid olive]

from frequenting UI dev discords and using the addon

[smoky prawn]

is it also possible to track eclipse durations in the cooldown manager and not via a bar?

[misty forge]

4 set go brr

[lucid olive]

arcui is an offshoot from an insanely vibe coded addon someone made using Claude AI before the first round of raid testing

[lofty depot]

Move it to the other line yes

[craggy sonnet]

go into the blizzard cdm settings window and drag eclipse from the bar section to the buff icon section

[smoky prawn]

ahhh to the tracked buffs?

[lofty depot]

Idk the name, sure

One is tracked bars

The other is the other

[lofty depot]

Move it

That would be it yes

[smoky prawn]

nice tyty

[lofty depot]

U tracking a lot of shit tho

[smoky prawn]

nah

i just started with it

need to put all the useless shit away

is a trinket buff option also implemented?

[lofty depot]

In bcdm it is

[craggy sonnet]

does that mean the current iteration is vibe coded? cause i havent heard such negativity about it personally.

[lucid olive]

always has been

not as bad as nephui though

did you see the recent nephui drama

[spice roost]

ai addon that he cant fix ?

[craggy sonnet]

dont think so .. just the random bits that people were throwing around

[lucid olive]

[spice roost]

oh wow

[craggy sonnet]

when neph was talking about elvui cancer being gone

[lucid olive]

yeah idk

[craggy sonnet]

oh, yea i heard that

briefly

fun guy

but tbf i havent heard the same about arc

which is why i was asking

it was obviously a bit scuffed when i tested it a bit on beta yday. but technically (if it can be fixed) allows for much more customization especially regarding tracked buffs

i've also heard accusations that danders is vibe coded

but i feel people are throwing that around like candy .. so idk whats what

[lucid olive]

arcui has so many features that if they weren't intrusive

other addons would have copied it already

[craggy sonnet]

they are ofc

[lucid olive]

it hooks into the CDM icon IDs and blizzard doesn't really like that

[craggy sonnet]

but workarounds is the name of the game

[lucid olive]

i expect the addon to either be purged or completely change

[craggy sonnet]

maybe yeah

[lucid olive]

workarounds that are bad for performance arent good

[craggy sonnet]

thats true

again, i havent read anything about it being bad .. so im just talking in hypotheticals

[gaunt ruin]

so for m+ keeper or elune?

[lucid olive]

the goat is in my raid

[smoky prawn]

cd usage feels much smoother gotta give it to them

[tawny cloud]

Any tips to track Eclipse ?

[lofty depot]

Everyone mad he uses ai.... Now they made when he doesn't, smh

[tawny cloud]

addons etc that shows on screen

[lofty depot]

Cdm shows it on screen

[tawny cloud]

just did a dungeon. i think half the time i was without because i miss my glow xD

[livid jay]

what glow 😄

[tawny cloud]

had a Weakaura that glowed 😄

the one that shows like 2-3 secs when you enter eclipe now. i had it permanent

[lofty depot]

Have u considered pressing the button

[tawny cloud]

Yeah. i was still doing wraths two times.. and nothing happend. then i pressed

[lofty depot]

Also eclipse isn't a maintenance buff like that anymore

There are times u'll be out of eclipse casting

[tawny cloud]

yeah i know, but im just so used to it. so its in the fingers

[lofty depot]

Good thing u have prepatch to play for a month to learn it 🙂

[tawny cloud]

yeah. i hate it already. but i hope i get to like it

[livid jay]

i guess outside eclipse rota is the same as inside just make sure u got full ap before going in?

[charred thorn]

anyone has good class wa?

[livid jay]

[left moss]

xD

WA is dead

[charred thorn]

i know

anyone found somehting to replace it?

cus i cant play without it, it tracked my AP so good and shit

[lofty depot]

Out of eclipse rotation is don't use asp

[livid jay]

unless u would overcap surely

[lofty depot]

Prob..... But why r u over capping

Should've used it in eclipse silly

[livid jay]

i havent played yet dont know how long im outside eclipse 😄

[lofty depot]

Depends where u are in the CD rotation

[lofty depot]

Bettercooldownmanager or senseis

[spiral star]

i cant move my cdm, it keeps resetting position, anyknow know how to fix that? xd

[craggy sonnet]

bettercdm?

change it with the positional controls inside the /bcdmsettings

[spiral star]

thanks!

[sudden flame]

needing an addon just to move it 🥀

[lofty depot]

Well it is better...

[craggy sonnet]

need the addon to move the addon

not that deep

[final patio]

Quick question have they fixed the Control of the Dream bug?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[craggy sonnet]

apparently, maybe

[final patio]

[jaunty blaze]

No weakaura to tell me to change talents so I will believe it

[craggy sonnet]

checks out

[azure flax]

Isnt eclipse now just a chore we have to do? I mean all i do is click it on cd right? Because i cant use it when in celestial Allignment

[lofty depot]

It was a chore before

It's not now just that no

[craggy sonnet]

you'd still wanna align it with other CDs when applicable

[lofty depot]

And no, u don't specifically click it on cd

[craggy sonnet]

be it treants or foe or whatever

[lofty depot]

There are times in the rotation u'll be out of eclipse casting

[azure flax]

And that means no dmg.. mh.

[craggy sonnet]

unforch

[lofty depot]

It means less damage yes

[azure flax]

Is there a guide somewhere? i had no time reading through all of the changes... but have raid later and at least need to be somewhat prepared^^

[dapper wing]

Wowhead

Icyveins

It's in the pins

[lofty depot]

Any guide is likely just an update of what abilities changed and maybe some cope ideas of how to play

[craggy sonnet]

bosses are flopping afaik

[lofty depot]

Nothing is 100% accurate cuz Sims don't exist

[craggy sonnet]

so just press buttons

[dapper wing]

Truth, but anything is better than nothing

[lucid olive]

yeah you do dimmy p1 in like 60 sec now lol

[livid jay]

nooooo i forgot to watch race to world last

[azure flax]

Ok thank you.

And does someone know how i can remove my astral bar from the player frame and move it where i want?

[dapper wing]

You can use personal resource display in settings

It's not great

[craggy sonnet]

thats all you get out of the box

[dapper wing]

There's probably an addon for it?

[craggy sonnet]

some cdm addons have a built in resource bar

[lofty depot]

Get an addon

[craggy sonnet]

senseiclassresourcebar is standalone

[lofty depot]

Just like before when everyone said use a weakaura

Now it's use an addon

[dapper wing]

Good job blizzard

Truly did solve all the accessibility issues

[craggy sonnet]

also twintop resource bar has a few more "advanced" features

[azure flax]

But that personal ressource thingy doesnt show anything^^ i tried that

[lofty depot]

Correct

[craggy sonnet]

there is a bar

[azure flax]

I thought addons are gone O.o

[lofty depot]

It's bad

[craggy sonnet]

it shows ap

dont lie

[lofty depot]

U were wrong

Weakauras are gone

[crude cargo]

and omnicd

no?

[craggy sonnet]

ye

some addons are gone

but doesnt matter for the conversation

there are still addons

[azure flax]

Sad. I thought the just remove all addons^^

[craggy sonnet]

you dont have to use any

[lofty depot]

Like landman said.... "U can trade ur car in for a bike, but ull be the only one and it won't make a damn bit of difference"

[craggy sonnet]

(other than maybe SenseiClassResourcebar if you dont wanna look at your player frame to see an AP number)

[azure flax]

I moved the ressource bar to where the questionmark is... but it doesnt show O.o

[craggy sonnet]

anything else is really mostly skinning stuff

do you have it enabled as well?

click on it in editmode

there are checkboxes to hide

[azure flax]

Should be enabled

[lofty depot]

Yea now click it

[lofty depot]

K now go download an addon, cuz that shits busted. 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

lol

[azure flax]

XD

[craggy sonnet]

surely its working

save, reload?

[azure flax]

Did both

[craggy sonnet]

is it enabled in the blizz options?

is working for me

[azure flax]

Why would they do that...

Thanks

[vast summit]

How's everyone else feeling about the eclipse change? I only had time to do one key last night and it felt a little clunky but could probably get use to it.

[lofty depot]

Maybe feels clunky cuz u don't have apex talent damage with it

Seems fine outside of that

[dire osprey]

peak ad placement

[livid jay]

what the helly

no adblock in 2026

how is your brain still braining

[dire osprey]

its on idk rigged

[minor condor]

i asume since we not sending both incarn charges immediatly like with the old s3 tier set, we need more haste for ST Kotg builds?

[craggy sonnet]

whats one got to do with the other?

[thorny sentinel]

do w eplay KotG or Elune Choce in M+ please ?

[minor condor]

that before we were useless outside of our cooldowns, now it doesnt feel like as much

[craggy sonnet]

but yea, versa probably a bit worse now

[minor condor]

also crit i would asume

[lofty depot]

That's not the exact reason, but it's still possible u want more haste. Without sims there's no accurate way to test it

[craggy sonnet]

whats that to do with haste?

[lofty depot]

It's prepatch, play w.e. u want dawg

[dull tree]

hello any alternatives for weakaura addons or otherwise

[craggy sonnet]

but yes, haste should be again better now than vers (and presumably crit in prepatch at least)

[minor condor]

Yeah thats what i asumed, but didnt we play low haste before mainly because of the way the cd's were used?

[lofty depot]

Enable cooldown manager, download bettercooldownmanager.

Can copy the imports from wowhead, the bcdm import is pinned in here.

[minor condor]

I know there isnt any accurate way to test it , but approximately how much haste do u think would be sufficient?

[lofty depot]

About tree fifty

[craggy sonnet]

mainly because such a huge chunk of our dmg was coming from the empowered starsurges that did not scale at all with haste

[lofty depot]

I think it doesn't matter as much as u think or want it to.... Stat differences have always been only a few %

If u want more haste, drop some crit

[twin lotus]

mastery might be worse now

[lofty depot]

Doubt it

[twin lotus]

yeah, speaking compeltely out my ass, 0 clue on the numbers

[craggy sonnet]

glad you brought it up then 🙂

[minor condor]

thats also what i meant with my previous messages

[minor condor]

i like minmaxin 😭

[lofty depot]

Love minmaxing on patches that don't matter

[minor condor]

minmaxing always

[lofty depot]

I wanna make fun of, but I wont

New expansion new me

[minor condor]

xd

[pallid bay]

when can i sim

[minor condor]

is there issues with crafting?

[minor condor]

dont think u can

[lofty depot]

Probably

[lofty depot]

He's trolling

[pallid bay]

hello sim people

@lucid olive

[lofty depot]

Sune is a sim person

Don't let him gaslight u

[pallid bay]

@vale pebble how sim prepatch

expert

[vale pebble]

hello

i am not an expert sadly

please refer to the expert

[pallid bay]

curious..

[craggy sonnet]

discord roles lying to me

hate when that happens

[lofty depot]

@jolly delta he expert. Maybe he know

[vale pebble]

[dire osprey]

people pugging salad and dimmy huh

[vale pebble]

please consult my secretary baicoutai-tarrenmill

[dire osprey]

apparently shit just gets rolled now

lmao

[vale pebble]

4min fight

[lofty depot]

Fake fights yea

[vale pebble]

from random w800 guilds

[dire osprey]

[lofty depot]

Time to sell mounts on 500 alts

[dire osprey]

my friend pugged salad and dimmy and said they are also skipping platforms on salad

[final patio]

Anyone got a decent UI i can import?

[lucid olive]

not for you

danes are banned

[final patio]

[lucid olive]

why do i have catch up gear available on characters that are 6/8m

[lofty depot]

Go see if it's old ilvl

[drifting nova]

had catchup last week at like 715

think they just pushed itt o everyone

[jade jacinth]

Is there a way to make it so that it shows a number on the resources thing? 🙂

[pallid bay]

dont think so

its basically useless

[jade jacinth]

hate these changes :C

my bar is ugly

[inland sand]

Hello, someone know how cancel aura ? 😄
We can no longer do that ?

[tacit oriole]

should be able to make a macro for that. No?

[lofty depot]

Cancelaura what

[left moss]

nop

[lofty depot]

Download a better one

[left moss]

cancel aura is cancel xDDDDDD

[inland sand]

i try to use my "old" macro, but doesn't work

fuck this 🙁

[inland sand]

Starlord

[lucid olive]

yes you cant cancel starlord anymore

[lofty depot]

Yea, the buff can't be canceled anymore, blame gamz

[inland sand]

Thanks ❤️

[livid jay]

fcking gamz

(i never canceled a starlord in my life)

[lofty depot]

Smh, losing DPS

[livid jay]

i just play 0.1% better instead

[left moss]

omg

xDDDD

[livid jay]

but gamz said

[craggy sonnet]

The main reason you would have done so previously is gone

Since it auto resets when you enter eclipse

[lofty depot]

There was some cool tech

Well u would've canceled before exiting eclipse and sent 3 surges so u could spam wraths more

[livid jay]

without boat?

[inland sand]

Ok then now Starlord is automatically cancel when you use your cd

[lofty depot]

Yes

[livid jay]

ye

[lucid olive]

and lasts 20 seconds

[lofty depot]

Well when u enter eclipse

[lucid olive]

so after Eclipse runs out you have 5 sec of Starlord

[craggy sonnet]

Yea, I meant what people used to cancel for

[lofty depot]

Clanker tech

[iron raft]

New eclipse feelsweirdman

[inland sand]

Didn't notice that before

[lucid olive]

theres a few moments where you'll have forced downtime from Eclipse for more than 5 seconds and if it was cancellable you would cancel before your Eclipse runs out and spend so you exit Eclipse with 15+ seconds on Starlord

[inland sand]

Mb then 😄

[lucid olive]

so you get more casts off before entering Eclipse again

[craggy sonnet]

Glad we don't have to bother with that

So all good

[livid jay]

glad control is still bugged

[craggy sonnet]

Apparently isn't

[livid jay]

pls someone say im wrong

[livid jay]

[lucid olive]

control should be fixed

[craggy sonnet]

At least gamz said it presumably worked in beta

[livid jay]

bruh i got kekkers'd

[lucid olive]

if you have any proof of it being bugged still then DM me about it

been asked by the devs to pay attention and give feedback about Control to see if we can catch any more bugs with it

[livid jay]

all i got is this

[lucid olive]

but by all accounts it should already be fixed

[lofty depot]

Listening to kekkers

Smart

[livid jay]

@misty forge my tantrum in dm's about it still not being fixed earlier was me getting ragebaited

its fixed

[lofty depot]

Blud tantruming

[livid jay]

xD

[lofty depot]

Blud doesn't know what cancer is, tragic really

[livid jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/666822252888719360/981418573710893116/image0-11.gif?=

[misty forge]

bro got me testing 20 minutes for nothing

[misty forge]

also fuck that fly

[dire osprey]

you deserve to suffer

[drifting nova]

atleast it's not the spoder one

[tacit oriole]

what they do with the singlw dummy in dorny?

nevermind

[lofty depot]

Belameth >

[cedar seal]

any way to track starlord with blizzards version of cdm?

cant find it under buffs

[lofty depot]

Look harder, it's there

[craggy sonnet]

It's legit in there

[cedar seal]

like its not?!

[lofty depot]

Are u talented into it

[craggy sonnet]

It should still be there

[cedar seal]

yes i am

[craggy sonnet]

Why is it all greyed out tho

Maybe you have a weird icon pack

[lofty depot]

Ik, but just a thinking outside of box

[cedar seal]

its all greyed out because of the name

[craggy sonnet]

Cause these are skinned

[cedar seal]

yeah its just masque

greyed out because i have the filter in the top with starlord

[craggy sonnet]

Maybe swap to another spec and back

No clue

[lucid olive]

are you using any addon

like arcui

[cedar seal]

i found a work around 😄

[craggy sonnet]

None of that should interfere with what's shown in the default cdm settings window tho, right?

[cedar seal]

new setup and it was there again

[lucid olive]

idk never rule out anything

[cedar seal]

i got it ty guys

[craggy sonnet]

Yea, just questioning

If possible

[cedar seal]

one last question - do we double incar on pull still as the tier set bonus is gone?

[lofty depot]

No

U'll play like season 1/2

[lucid olive]

finally back as night elf

hope i never have to go tauren again

[livid jay]

Why did u go tauren?

[vale pebble]

if the fight is short u could incarn back to back because of lust

[lofty depot]

Crit dam silly

[lucid olive]

cause it was really good for season 3 tier set

[livid jay]

Ah

Fuck that

Blizz already baited a race swap out of me cause dh aggro was bugged

[drifting nova]

disgusting you'd even change

[livid jay]

They not getting another one

[lucid olive]

i should unlock haranir i guess

[plucky valley]

I would never race change (I’ve swapped to nelf 3 times, might be a 4th time for mage but I do like belfs)

[round field]

Unluck dn

[cedar seal]

and if not i wait for convoke to be ready again?

[vale pebble]

yea prob

[sudden panther]

haranir isnt even available on live yet

[vale pebble]

rn u dont care as much about timers

cause theres no solar lunar bolts

so u dont rly care if u overcap eclipse

[livid jay]

Wtf is a lunar bolt

[plucky valley]

Yea wtf is a lunar bolt

[lofty depot]

When u press eclipse, it sends a bolt out

Is apex talent silly

[vale pebble]

its the ascendant eclipses apex talent

[livid jay]

Ah another passive nice

[vale pebble]

mate im pretty sure we talked about this 1month ago

[livid jay]

Yea

I think so too

But I'm tired and cold

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-axolotl-meme-ai-ai-slop-gif-320631449476692671

[plucky valley]

This is literally me irl

[lofty depot]

More like stupid and old

[vale pebble]

bet

[livid jay]

bet

[royal zenith]

love lunar bolts

[vale pebble]

lunar bolt sucks ass vro 🥀

[lofty depot]

But it does AOE dam

We're bursting

[royal zenith]

I know but

Im trying to get myself more hyped

(it's not working)

[round field]

Sounds like a u problem

[pseudo merlin]

is it over?

[pseudo merlin]

?

[vale pebble]

our ascendant talents are op trust vro

#wescale corp

[pseudo merlin]

🙏

gonne be insane when they drop

[vale pebble]

#wescale

[pseudo merlin]

[vale pebble]

imagine if ur op in prepatch

and they nerf off prepatch

lule

and ur shit in actual tier

how mad would u be btw

[pseudo merlin]

That is 100% something they would do

[craggy sonnet]

Don't have to imagine. I'm believing

[drifting nova]

the what now

[pseudo merlin]

My damage meter stats still get deleted forever as soon as a key is completed

[vale pebble]

pipe down

[pseudo merlin]

I actually lost hope

[drifting nova]

THE HWAT NOW

[pseudo merlin]

Say it in welsh

maybe he'll understand

[vale pebble]

are u welsh

kekkers

[drifting nova]

yr hyn yn awr

[vale pebble]

my condolences

everything checks out then

[drifting nova]

Byddaf yn ei roi i chi

[pseudo merlin]

I'd be careful with that profile picture of yours

You know what they say about the Welsh

[drifting nova]

thought you meant mine

[pseudo merlin]

Your profile picture is just you

I swear nobody can do this key on beta

what is happening

[drifting nova]

bad players

wait til the gamers get at it

[pseudo merlin]

You doing KSM day 1 kekkerton?

[drifting nova]

idk what that is

so yes

is there still no reason to do higher than 10s or

[pseudo merlin]

My address doesn't exist and I've been trying to coordinate delivery drivers to get to my house for the past 2 weeks

so far 4 deliveries have just been cancelled and sent back to depot

Peoples brains just break down when you send them a location marker they can click and instantly navigate to

what a time to be alive

[drifting nova]

shouldve expected that to happen putting down the leaning tower

[pseudo merlin]

We had one

But they just deleted it

3 weeks ago they decided to let vault scale with key level (higher upgrade x/x)

then they just went "nah"

[drifting nova]

I too watch the bench and tut in dismay

[pseudo merlin]

I thought it was cool

[jolly delta]

idk another expert told me you can't