same reason people want to get boosted in pve
#balance
royal zenith
vale pebble
its usually mega goog
vale pebble
(its just glad mount)
royal zenith
vale pebble
or mog lowkirk
royal zenith
define quickly
vale pebble
erm
eager raft
Pvp gearing is stupid fast
vale pebble
dont look my druid
eager raft
Especially if it’s an alt
crude cargo
alot of ppl that buy mythic raid usually do it for gear
royal zenith
also don't you get currency to buy gear instantly if you get boosted doing higher content in pvp
crude cargo
and mount obv
royal zenith
or is it a fixed amount
dense steeple
I also bought aotc carry for my wife with loot funnel and she gained like 35ilvl
round field
ur wife sounds like a slacker
dense steeple
Which is not alot considering she doesn't play the game
Like i bought us full clear funnels
royal zenith
sounds like actual value
lofty depot
Soma has many wow golds
crude cargo
define quickly
one 8/8 with full loot and you just gotta do m+ to upgrade everything
eager raft
Just gotta do m+
royal zenith
just a casual 60+ dungeonis
crude cargo
might not be full biss but thats a pretty good starting ground
eager raft
Is really underselling the fact that you have to do 30+ keys
royal zenith
that is correct
eager raft
If you just post ur own key people carry u for free
lucid olive
yeah just do 50+ keys in a few weeks for a good starting ground
royal zenith
but doesn't take away the fact it's probably just as time intensive as getting gear for pvp
lucid olive
need to play for 12 hours in LFG just as a beginning
royal zenith
also knowing blizzard, they probably made it so you spend same amount for all content...
crude cargo
rerollers do that
royal zenith
or at least attempt..
crude cargo
in .5 patch
lofty depot
Get geared early, push keys early, sell keys while they're expensive. Afk after prog
eager raft
Push keys early - guy who has done 12s
vale pebble
idk why they added these chungus crests and valorstones for alts
that shits sisyphus
crude cargo
valorstones 💀
lucid olive
glad valorstones are gone
royal zenith
and u had almost full gear
this is real
lofty depot
Push keys early - guy who has done 12s
I did 17s bucko
royal zenith
it's actually worse now, by definition
lofty depot
Then my tank found out he was shit and we stopped
royal zenith
to get a boost
crude cargo
Then my tank found out he was shit and we stopped
how did that go
eager raft
I did 17s bucko
Alright respect. I apologize
lofty depot
I started playing other games after
M+ mental illness
Just wipe to the same pack 14 times until u get it right then keep going
crude cargo
this season is the only season of this expac where i didnt really m+ past 12s
lucid olive
what io did you stop at arctic
eager raft
I was like top 10 hunters but then turbo boost came out and I didn’t want to be one of those people getting post turbo boot io score so I had to stop
lucid olive
noob
crude cargo
i feel like this season dungeon pool was full of stinkers
livid jay
prolly more score than me 
lucid olive
only season i bothered doing something
lofty depot
I mean this was also when I wasn't geared for EC either
Didn't have spire, didnt have trinkets
livid jay
blame the gear 
eager raft
Nice I clear you both
lucid olive
think i played more guardian than moonkin this season and its not close
i just played havoc as an alt for fun
lofty depot
That was also before .5 patch
crude cargo
did you enjoy havoc
lucid olive
yeah fun spec
lofty depot
So like, I'm him probably
crude cargo
just m+ or raid too?
crude cargo
AR very fun in dung
crude cargo
had my main and 2 alts this season
pallid bay
https://tenor.com/view/cat-axolotl-meme-ai-ai-slop-gif-320631449476692671
mesmerizing
crude cargo
started a 3rd and gave up halfway thru
vale pebble
mesmerizing
lucid olive
my issue is with turbo boost
crude cargo
poor ww monk 🥀
lucid olive
its really fun to gear at the start of the season
lucid olive
then turbo boost comes and you feel like you need to giga grind
vale pebble
its really fun to gear at the start of the season
eager raft
then turbo boost comes and you feel like you need to giga grind
On characters id already been playing a lot it was fine cuz all I had to do was trade up small crests
crude cargo
on main it doesnt add anything and it feels like shit on alts
lofty depot
then turbo boost comes and you feel like you need to giga grind
Just don't ever use ur runed crest before turbo boost
eager raft
But it made me lose all interest in playing anything else cuz it added like 30% more keys to max gear
royal zenith
turbo boost is a weird concept
maybe they should focus on making better content
thoughts?
eager raft
Always felt to me like a lazy cop out to not have to actively balance the raid fights
Between turbo boot and the stacking raid buff
vale pebble
on main it doesnt add anything and it feels like shit on alts
on main it adds 20 keys
yippie
lucid olive
man i got inspired to log on and do another DH key before my weakauras disappear
royal zenith
how does this conversation inspire you to do this
vale pebble
crude cargo
on main it adds 20 keys
i think i had crests to trade up to so i didnt really do much more m+ on main
eager raft
That’s why I played some some keys this weekend
vale pebble
i think i had crests to trade up to so i didnt really do much more m+ on main
i was trading crests after work before raid
crude cargo
was reminded how fun havoc m+ is on live
🧎♂️
eager raft
Get some last minute enjoyment out of the game before it’s ruined
royal zenith
i was trading crests after work before raid
this
crude cargo
i had time to do like 2/3 keys before raid on reset
eager raft
so i had 0
Probably didn’t really end up mattering anyway, u were prob alr done the raid before turbo
crude cargo
so i would get 90 during reclear
vale pebble
Probably didn’t really end up mattering anyway, u were prob alr done the raid be...
oh yea
i was and it didnt matter
crude cargo
but ye ended prog the reset before turboboost so didnt really affect us
eager raft
I think my guild killed during the window where they added the extra ilvl but didn’t uncap crests yet
crude cargo
it was 3 weeks window i think
crude cargo
when prog is done with hof nerfs and turboboost its w/e if you dont have all your crests on reset
eager raft
I’m glad they’re slowing down gearing
eager raft
Upgrades cost more crests
crude cargo
there was some datamining on crests upgrades
royal zenith
ah
eager raft
But cap stays the same
crude cargo
but nothing since ?
eager raft
royal zenith
having to do x3 content to be able to upgrade anything that was 1x previous season
actual nightmare
eager raft
I think it would feel better if they just slowed down crest acquisition
eager raft
Effectively the same thing, but at least it takes longer to cap so you’re not just spending 90% of the first few weeks sitting at crest cap
I think there’s some value in continuing to get rewards
royal zenith
Imagine I told you to take a trip from A to B, but Ill add one more wheel to your car every 3 weeks
how would that feel for you
placid olive
Wild
royal zenith
artificial curve you mean
eager raft
Yeah I guess so
royal zenith
there's a reason splits are being done
it's all just very forced
the gearing part that is
eager raft
Don’t you find it lame when you’re spamming keys for gear the first few weeks, but after 4 keys you’re capped
royal zenith
I'd feel worse about having to do 20 keys for 1 upgrade than 8 keys to cap + fill vault *
crude cargo
1 extra slot in GV wooo
eager raft
Well yeah that’s not what I’m suggesting
crude cargo
doing 8 keys in the first place feels shit
eager raft
Instead of 4 keys for cap, why not 8
crude cargo
since raid is 6 bosses
royal zenith
also the cap meant you'd have to make somewhat meaningful decisions on what to spend crests on anyway
during prog
crude cargo
- doing more keys on reset to get cap is the worst shit ever
i dont have more time on reset day
to do 8 keys for cap
before raid at 9pm
eager raft
you’re gonna be doing them anyway throughout that week
crude cargo
yeah but do make the prog faster i want my shit asap
eager raft
you’ve just been conditioned to think it’s normal to complete your entire week of things to do in 90 minutes
placid olive
^
royal zenith
how is it not normal though
crude cargo
m+ for crests isnt what i want my week to be filled with
eager raft
Surely you’re filling vault either way
crude cargo
its a sidequest forced into me
lofty depot
Effectively the same thing, but at least it takes longer to cap so you’re not ju...
Logging on before raid to cap crests, oh wait it takes 5 more keys to do that now cuz we thought that would be fun
royal zenith
also this "Crests costs to upgrade now scale from 10 Crests (for 2/6 upgrade) to 50 Crests for the final upgrade."
crude cargo
and not in the middle of prog
eager raft
Logging on before raid to cap crests, oh wait it takes 5 more keys to do that no...
Why do you feel like you’re supposed to finish the weekly cap for crests before 9pm on the first day of the week
lofty depot
Why do you feel like you’re supposed to finish the weekly cap for crests before ...
Why do I need to play the game for 8 hours a day
crude cargo
because it do be like that
eager raft
Who said you have to do that
lofty depot
1/6 and 2/6 cost runed or mythic crest no?
crude cargo
if im not doing it im griefing the other 19ppl playing that night
royal zenith
I hate the argument "the game doesn't value your time" but this game is really turning into that
eager raft
You’re filling your vault either way, what’s wrong with it taking those same 8 keys to cap crests
Seems pretty reasonable
lofty depot
Cuz I fill my vault at the end of the week
crude cargo
8 keys too much
eager raft
Yeah you’re just a modern wow player
Everything needs to be handed to you immediately
lofty depot
Handed as if I'm not doing the key
eager raft
You’re gonna do the key regardless of if it gives you crests or not
royal zenith
Everything needs to be handed to you immediately
okay but hold up
what's wrong with that?
lofty depot
You’re gonna do the key regardless of if it gives you crests or not
Not week 12 when I dont need gear
I do keys for crests
eager raft
Considering if you’re filling vault (which I know you are), at least half the keys you’re doing reward zero crests
bro who cares about week 12 the tier is already over
royal zenith
Considering if you’re filling vault (which I know you are), at least half the ke...
this is the argument for needing 8 keys to cap crests?
royal zenith
"you're doing it anyway"
crude cargo
what about making you fill your vault not a soulless activity
placid olive
You think 8 is too many? What amount would you suggest? 6?
crude cargo
rather than looking at crests*
eager raft
this is the argument for needing 8 keys to cap crests?
I think it would make keys 5-8 feel less pointless if you’re still getting crests 
royal zenith
nah, Idc about the amount of keys you need to fill vault - that's an extra
but using it as an argument to higher or lower crest count/cap
that's super irrelevant
this is just about making it feel more useful, which in itself is just wrong
placid olive
What would you do differently? How would you change the current atm?
royal zenith
cause that implies it's useless to begin with
aka that's the real problem
I would get rid of all caps, let people go wild
lofty depot
What would you do differently? How would you change the current atm?
First u have to find out why they want to change it
Then u need to justify why their change is stupid
royal zenith
you clear content atm with having like 70% of your gear cap
eager raft
I would get rid of all caps, let people go wild
That would benefit me, but I think it would be terrible for the long term health of the game
royal zenith
who cares if people are faster by a few days
eager raft
Their metrics show that people stop playing after maxing gear
placid olive
It would make more of a “seasonal game” more seasonal wouldn’t it?
Not saying that’s bad per say, but
eager raft
So it stands to reason that they want to extend how long it takes to max gear
royal zenith
yeah cause it's artificial, and they made gearing their endgoal
eager raft
(Weekly crest cap, turbo boost)
royal zenith
in that sense you can also just buy a boost end of tier and get it done
placid olive
Hasn’t it always been the end goal? Getting bis bis gear? That along with killing the hardest bosses
I guess both can be true
royal zenith
clearing content is the endgoal for me at least
placid olive
That’s fair
lofty depot
Imagine playing the game, to completion....then playing the game when it resets again to completion
Ik crazy
royal zenith
getting bis gear is secondary because that's a thing you introduce when you have to reclear for weeks on end
eager raft
Puzzle and I talked about this the other day and both agreed we think it should take like 10ish weeks to max ilvl
And another 3-5 weeks for bis
placid olive
getting bis gear is secondary because that's a thing you introduce when you have...
That’s fair.
eager raft
Because I want the game to remain interesting for me to play it
And it’s naturally harder to stay interested when the rewards have diminished to zero
royal zenith
but why not just play something else?
lofty depot
Playing 1 game for 3+ months. Disgusting
eager raft
There has been nothing to do
royal zenith
all this subjective anyway
lofty depot
Go push keys dork
royal zenith
but you're basically saying "I want the game to force me to gear up for 10 weeks, else Im not having fun"
eager raft
Meh not really
“I want the game to force me to gear up for 10 weeks, so I continue to have fun”
Would be a bit more close
lofty depot
"Force me to gear for 10 weeks so I can play it more, cuz that sounds fun"
placid olive
Slowing down gearing I don’t think is a bad idea, now HOW they do that, I have no idea of a good way lol
royal zenith
“I want the game to force me to gear up for 10 weeks, so I continue to have fun”
which part will continue your fun, exactly
gear, people, content
eager raft
which part will continue your fun, exactly
Mostly just that my friends continue to log in
royal zenith
there you go
eager raft
Because they continue to have a reason to
I continue to log in anyways
But a lot of ppl don’t
royal zenith
so you want the game to force people to take 10 weeks to gear, so your friends don't log out
and you don't log out
lofty depot
Find more friends dork
royal zenith
I mean it's a valid reason
but linking it to crest changes
that's some mental gymnastics
lofty depot
He wants more people to suffer cuz he can't find more friends
royal zenith
placid olive
Eh
lofty depot
He needs to go outside
lucid olive
real
eager raft
I been playing lost ark last couple days
Games a banger. They made some good changes recently
lofty depot
Imagine playing the wrong arc
eager raft
I can’t get into arc raiders unfortunately
Just not a fan of extraction shooters really
lofty depot
After like 20 raids, it's barely that anymore
eager raft
I’m also just really bad at shooters these days
lucid olive
canada syndrome
eager raft
I stick to training wheels shooters like battlefield and call of duty
Where you don’t actually need good aim
lofty depot
Gun fight, win/die, leave. Bring hatch key, basically can't get extract camped. Ezpz
I just really like the gun play
eager raft
Part of my issue is that I never took the time to learn the systems so idk what’s worth looting
lofty depot
If they made it a br, I wouldn't be mad
eager raft
So I just pick up everything and then my bag is full 3 minutes into the run
lofty depot
Part of my issue is that I never took the time to learn the systems so idk what’...
There's cheat sheets for that
And when u gun fight everyone, u know what's valuable.... Their guns
royal zenith
crazy
hope you didnt get too much gear though
imagine not enjoying the game anymore...
lofty depot
He doesn't know how to gear
eager raft
hope you didnt get too much gear though
Haahahahaja man f u
sudden pawn
eager raft
Hi sleepy
lofty depot
Slam Stella Montis free kits til u learn the game, ezpz
royal zenith
Haahahahaja man f u
plucky valley
I often dream of keeping myself safe
crude cargo
control of the dream
woven flint
when pre patch hits can you set it up like oi has for utility that its only being tracked if its on cd like in the picture on the bottom
quiet drift
Afaik you can only track stuff that Blizzards wants to
Unless there are some new Addon workarounds
gaunt ruin
Is balance Druid gonna get some buffs? Is pretty low in the m+ meta on archon.gg
For midnight
jaunty blaze
Bummers
teal sphinx
That is a good one
jaunty blaze
oh no
lofty depot
when pre patch hits can you set it up like oi has for utility that its only bein...
Besides the eclipse bars, yes
Thank God we care about m+ opinions 6 months before it matters
(hint we don't care about it in 6 months either)
craggy sonnet
Slowing down gearing I don’t think is a bad idea, now HOW they do that, I have n...
Well, they already datamined a possible way to do that (escalating upgrade costs)
placid olive
Oh for sure, I just don’t know if that’s a good or bad way. Nor do I really have any big ideas. So I just play the game as it lays and call it lol
Not smart enough to have any real big revelations, I enjoy the game as it is and if I don’t then I just don’t play it as much
craggy sonnet
Unless there are some new Addon workarounds
There are. You can track anything really (although could be jank with cooldowns acceleration, not sure)
placid olive
I understand/can see peoples opinions on stuff tho.
craggy sonnet
Personally I think stretching out gearing from the start is better than turbo boost
That shit kills the game
quiet drift
There are. You can track anything really (although could be jank with cooldowns...
Is there an addon to track debuffs (stellar amp)
placid olive
Personally I think stretching out gearing from the start is better than turbo bo...
Yeah I can see the benefit of this.
quiet drift
Only addon i need
craggy sonnet
Oh I thought it was about abilities..
I know you can track buffs that are not in the CDM per default by "learning" them via whatever addon has the feature
Debuffs I'm not sure. Probably not
quiet drift
Gg
lofty depot
Can track dots, so surely
jaunty blaze
installing 1 addon at a time for every buff and debuff to track big poggers
quiet drift
Can track dots, so surely
Dots are baked in already
For some reason stellar amp isnt
eager raft
Yeah that dude SUCKS
lofty depot
Yes all the time, except when I don't like the content said person is refering to
lofty depot
Yeah that dude SUCKS
Says the one that wants to extend the gearing period cuz he can't make new friends to play the game with.
lofty depot
For some reason stellar amp isnt
Rip
eager raft
eager raft
Says the one that wants to extend the gearing period cuz he can't make new frien...
nice argument. however, i have already depicted you as the seething lion and myself as the smug chimpanzee
lofty depot
He was gasing u up so u kept talking
He doesn't care about your opinion, he just wants to troll me
eager raft
Alright that’s true
lofty depot
Then again, he likely just got timeout so, cya in an hour prob
@ thyme?
Damn, thyme not here
Who done it?
knock knock
fossil hemlock
The anti-pronoun people are hilarious since they're the first people to blow a fuse if you misgender them
lofty depot
I've answered ur questions before
Get mad about that too
They said that to keep u typing
As stated
They troll me, while I troll everyone. We're not the same
royal zenith
why are you two bickering in a class discord for a spec that looks like a massive chicken
lofty depot
why are you two bickering in a class discord for a spec that looks like a massiv...
Why r u talking in a class discord for a class u no longer play
spit
lofty depot
Talking to retired discord mod
lofty depot
reminds me of that reddit mod with the video lately
Lol, he has power
Locken
Incorrect
Lol
Back to the hate comments we go
eager raft
why are you two bickering in a class discord for a spec that looks like a massiv...
Kinda agree with everything that’s been said
lucid olive
when pre patch hits can you set it up like oi has for utility that its only bein...
no
you can't have something only show when its on cd
tropic pollen
bummer, I got used to that
woven flint
no
ty brother gamz
good thign i have the picture saved of ui used in beta
was trying to setup unhalted in preparation for tommorow
but i cant figure out how to enable target castbar without another addon
plucky valley
In life you’re gonna get what you give
But some things, only
God can forgive
Remember that the next time you press starfall on ST
lofty depot
Remember that the next time you press starfall on ST
They can't nerf Starfall cuz our AOE is piss already. So surge buffs coming. Locken
plucky valley
Lock in 💪 🔒
If boomie is top dps, then I am a boomie player. If boomie is middle dps, then I am a boomie player. If boomie is lowest dps, then I am a boomie player. If boomie has no players, then I am no longer on this earth.
royal zenith
are you okay buddy?
tacit oriole
Locked in apparently
eager raft
good thign i have the picture saved of ui used in beta
You can just open beta and export ur edit mode profile
woven flint
You can just open beta and export ur edit mode profile
i did that but it somehow didnt transfer properly
eager raft
I think you’d have to wait til after prepatch comes out to import it because there are things that are part of edit mode on beta that aren’t on live right now
But even then, no guarantee that it works, but that’s gonna be the first thing I try when I log in tmrw
fallow sparrow
When do I cast eclipse? When I have full ap?
lucid olive
close to full AP at least
fallow sparrow
Thanks
nova ocean
How the hell is blizzard just going live with sculpt the stars still as a talent. That garbage straight up looked like a place holder till they could put a real talent there
lucid olive
well you see
the tooltip for Eclipse states that its a 30 second cooldown
but its actually 32 second cooldown
you need to take Sculpt the Stars for the tooltip to be right
ripe slate
normal pilot
doesn't sculpt make the tooltip read 28s
lucid olive
yeah
normal pilot
unlucky always chasing the tooltip
lucid olive
but its actually 30
ripe slate
still waiting for them to take it completely off the gcd too
thats a weird copium
ripe slate
was my #1 complaint playing on beta
nova ocean
Doesn't matter
ripe slate
feels weird that pressing a gcd-locked instant also locks eclipse
while CA doesnt
"but CA is a cooldown" blah blah
normal pilot
you get the addon stuf with the apex talents
lucid olive
i think just macroing Eclipse to a Starsurge would be really lame
ripe slate
do you macro starsurge to CA right now? lol
lucid olive
its probably a gain to do yeah
no reason why you wouldnt other than orbital strike GCD
but you dont take that talent so
ripe slate
i meant right now
ripe slate
yeah it could be, but i dont think people actually do it
not that i dont understand why eclipse is on the gcd just plays weird with CA not triggering it but eclipse triggering it
ill get used to it tho
loud kettle
no reason why you wouldnt other than orbital strike GCD
the surge just wouldnt work with orbital strike anyway, dont think macro would even need adjusted but even then can always do [noknown: Orbital Strike] for the surge line if you really wanted
lucid olive
there would also undoubtedly be some spellqueue bugs if eclipse was off gcd
ripe slate
probably true lol
normal pilot
it's just half assed if they actually were able to full time design they would've added more consistency on ecl vs ca
loud kettle
be careful talking about off-gcd stuff, blizzard's new crew might think its a good idea to put everything on the gcd again
ripe slate
lol
normal pilot
it's just a stop-gap measure onto the next thing so you're gonna have weirdness
ripe slate
last titan theyre gonna remove eclipses and bring back empowerments
and the cycle repeats
normal pilot
nah no way they have time to redesign like that
they're under even more crunch than before
normal pilot
there's no need to stall ppl like new content and bugs/weird design is perfectly fine
ripe slate
quiet drift
i dont see a reason why macroing starsurge to CA isnt a gain
Rn you cant really atleast for the 2nd CA
You dont gain dryads favour in time and just shoot a dry surge
🤓
nova ocean
craggy sonnet
you can't have something only show when its on cd
are you sure? cause I have seen the opposite .. having something only show when its available
tardy hare
Our last raid is over. We got to 9% p3
gaunt ruin
F
gaunt ruin
I don’t get it. Why nerf boomkin with the changes. We were kind of mid anyway. Every time they try to change it and it seems to fuck up
echo field
any updated guides for prepatch? wowhead guide is different from what folks are doing on beta....dreamgrove is still last patch. Do we still starfall in single target?
lofty depot
I don’t get it. Why nerf boomkin with the changes. We were kind of mid anyway. E...
It's a new expansion, their intentions aren't nerfing, their intentions are changing. Damage tuning is completely different.
lofty depot
any updated guides for prepatch? wowhead guide is different from what folks are...
Neither the wowhead guide nor the people on beta know exactly what is 100% the best way of playing
It's prepatch, it also just doesn't matter. There will be some spec that's just giga broken and will carry.
fast finch
Neither the wowhead guide nor the people on beta know exactly what is 100% the b...
When are we knowing that? Geniune question
lofty depot
When we can actually sim things. Which isn't likely til week or so before midnight
Or maybe week of midnight :/
wicked shuttle
@lofty depot idk why you didnt ping me for that guy earlier
lmfao
i wouldve banned him
wicked shuttle
i just axed him rn
lofty depot
LOL
lucid olive
what you banned Beast??
wicked shuttle
what a cool fellow
lofty depot
He meant bytes or w.e.
lucid olive
oh bytem?
lofty depot
Bytem
wicked shuttle
ya
lucid olive
okay fair
wicked shuttle
combative and just being weird
lucid olive
dg chatter
lofty depot
Avg arctic interaction
lyric thicket
Do we press starfall in st in 2 days guys ?
wicked shuttle
no
wicked shuttle
im not sure what gamz thinks, but im pretty sure in no iteration of beta or prepatch would we starfall ST
lofty depot
Wouldn't listen to tettles, he doesn't write guides how would he know
lofty depot
lyric thicket
Teettles can you write to the dev ? We need have more dps 🙁
lucid olive
buff bamkin
lofty depot
wicked shuttle
fyi we're probably 2 massive tuning passes and a few smaller tuning passes away from launch
so i wouldnt sweat it
we could be wis or bis by the end of beta
fossil hemlock
I would, my heating is blasting right now
lofty depot
fyi we're probably 2 massive tuning passes and a few smaller tuning passes away ...
So we're gonna get the surge 10% and an all damage inc by 10% note soon
zealous willow
Being back stellar flare ..
wicked shuttle
i dont wanna play rattle again
zealous willow
Just kidding
wicked shuttle
Being back stellar flare ..
ah theyre really busy that week
lofty depot
Make rattle a maintenance buff
lucid olive
stellar fart
lofty depot
Dogshit passive talent cuz they don't know how to balance talents
lyric thicket
i dont wanna play rattle again
Did we play something diff ? For once xD
lofty depot
Currently weaver is good
fossil hemlock
Buff Orbital Strike by renaming it Syzygy
lyric thicket
I play weaver only in saladar
lofty depot
But that could be wrong
When weaver is talented u can waste while moving in starfall
Then buff rattle so we never use it
zealous willow
Someday
lyric thicket
Starfall in st can be a direction to play around .. this change from wraith spamming
lofty depot
How would u get asp to cast said starfall
fossil hemlock
Just get lucky with your weaver procs?
lethal oxide
does someone know a addon that can replecate the "afenar" WA look?
lucid olive
the closest you can get is arcui
if you mean specifically the bars to count down eclipse
but its a bit buggy and theres no guarantee it works
lethal oxide
but its a bit buggy and theres no guarantee it works
thank you i will try it
lofty depot
@ afenar
tacit oriole
Boys. Today is the day my guild goes for RWL. BEST % is sub 15%. Wish your fellow boomie luck. 
lofty depot
Boys. Today is the day my guild goes for RWL. BEST % is sub 15%. Wish your fello...
If u need someone to sub, I can come help
tacit oriole
We have several people that stream on twitch. Gary it’s going to be at 7pm est. wouldn’t that be late for ya
Also it’s US
lofty depot
Gamz thought my name was william
lofty depot
You aren’t a nobody
No that's @fossil shard
tacit oriole
I thought you played EU though
lofty depot
Lol, what
tacit oriole
I could have swore you were 😂 my bad fam
lofty depot
Nop, na scoundrel
lucid olive
I thought you played EU though
youd think so
judging by his teeth
arctic not seen a dentist since Bush administration
lofty depot
I actually have seen a dentist more than u would think
most of that is from years of abuse
Abusing the coca cola
It's astounding I've never been above 200 pounds 🙂
exotic perch
lofty depot
Type shit
lucid olive
shit
lofty depot
Smh guild should've skipped one
tacit oriole
@lofty depot ill @ ya if we need someone. If you are ackshually down
frail sonnet
so we cant upgrade any items after the reset?
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> ill @ ya if we need someone. If you are ackshually down
i am, my druid is saved but i have my mage as well. have kiled it obviously 🙂
dense steeple
ive been to garys house
lofty depot
so we cant upgrade any items after the reset?
dont think so, tomorrow is 12.0 so they should go away
dense steeple
within reason, basically my house
ive been in your bathroom
you have good toilet paper
lofty depot
hmm
drifting nova
dont think so, tomorrow is 12.0 so they should go away
tomorrow? uwutnow
lofty depot
lucid olive
dont think so, tomorrow is 12.0 so they should go away
crests arent greyed out on ptr
the dinar vendors are on ptr too
but who knows what'll be the case when the patch hits live
lofty depot
key word was should
cloud citrus
im ready for the pre patch to be super crazy
potent cargo
shit gona be brazy
eager raft
gonna be a movie
delicate perch
gonna be a movie
balance channel going to pop off
next sedge
is balance op yet
lofty depot
its been op for 4 months
gentle scroll
Is the stat squish tomorrow as well with pre-patch?
lofty depot
yes
delicate perch
log off
fast finch
Stupid question but why I can't import the UI and CDM profiles from wowhead?
Should I wait for tomorrow or maybe im just stupid and doing it wrong
delicate perch
is the patch not live until tomorrow
surely there are differences not released yet
eager raft
Stupid question but why I can't import the UI and CDM profiles from wowhead?
wait til tomorrow and try again. cdm on beta has more stuff than cdm on live so im assuming that makes the import codes not work
fast finch
ok ok will wait then, was just trying to get everything set up for tomorrow since guild want to raid 
delicate perch
well too bad, you will have extended downtime and insane bugs to deal with
now give blizzard your money
spice roost
gl raiding tomarrow lol
lofty depot
8 hour maintenance
fast finch
Im pretty sure it will be a mess
and the game will be unplayable
if things arent okay im not raiding
spice roost
it will definately be extended im betting
runic flume
I can't get solar eclipse to proc on beta on target dummies. Am I the dummy?
runic flume
Yeah. it always shows lunar for me
spice roost
cast 1 wrath...
runic flume
Yeah, stays lunar. Sounds like a me issue though
spice roost
are u using elunes chosen
its a talent that forces that
@runic flume
in ec build u dont cast wrath
lucid olive
Guy is running Lunar Calling, banger
spice roost
lol
runic flume
lol. Yep. That's the one
Haven't played druid in years, just jumped on the beta and threw talents in
Thank you
spice roost
ya all good
vale gazelle
So, what are you guys crafting on your balance priests?
spice roost
lol
lofty depot
So, what are you guys crafting on your balance priests?
@lucid olive
potent cargo
So, what are you guys crafting on your balance priests?
@lucid olive derserei gonna clap u bud
when i wrote for slophead i always had perf grammah
loud kettle
so excited for balance priest
delicate perch
Guy is running Lunar Calling, banger
not this again
delicate perch
<@147914503588282368> derserei gonna clap u bud
can't believe @lucid olive used methodchatgpt to write the wowhead post
loud kettle
why would @lucid olive do that...
delicate perch
can someone ping him maybe he hasn't seen it yet
loud kettle
@lucid olive
delicate perch
🤝
delicate perch
4 single rolls
how long left on the set
meager storm
idk how long sets are, but its been like 2 months of it
delicate perch
probs still a while then, they made sets longer 
merry ibex
Well got my CE with my little one day guild on Saturday, so slid in at the last second
lofty depot
w
merry ibex
Good xpax, farewell current boomkin I hope the new you is even better
lofty depot
because casting 2 starfires to enter eclipse was so smooth
merry ibex
lol
its not that
the damage feels undertuned
on beta staraurge was hitting for 30k in pvp on 500k hps
felt really bad
lofty depot
u said it felt clunky
merry ibex
yea damage wise
merry ibex
true
lofty depot
also... pvp?
merry ibex
yep
lofty depot
go outside
merry ibex
lol
jaunty blaze
lofty depot
i hope it feels clunky for u
merry ibex
😱
quaint wave
Gamepace is going way down for pvp
quaint wave
So I would wait and see before you pass judgments. I think if anything boomie will be better in pvp because you will have more direct control over your eclipse on demand vs after 2 casts
lofty depot
so whats in tomorrows update
the clock turns to midnight
drifting nova
big if true
lofty depot
So I would wait and see before you pass judgments. I think if anything boomie wi...
instant damage on eclipse too
quaint wave
Yeah. Boomie kit (druid kit, really) barely touched regarding pvp so I anticipate if their damage is strong they will be just as great.
You could pour one out for the loss of double frenzied regen on a 5min cd but c'est le vie
fossil hemlock
You could pour one out for the loss of double frenzied regen on a 5min cd but c'...
30% max health on 2 min CD isn't bad either
round field
who cares about pvp anyways
fossil hemlock
they killed boomie
Shoulda used a defensive, I'm still alive
quaint wave
30% max health on 2 min CD isn't bad either
Yeah renewal is better than aissenas renewal but I feel this is more minor than heart change
Heart change is a truly gutted ability I doubt will get taken
Idk it might
fossil hemlock
Gutted?
quaint wave
Yeah heart of the wild is much better now than it is in prepatcg for pvp
I won't be surprised if it's not taken
Where as right how it is probably your best apex
In the class tree
fossil hemlock
Idk, 30% max health increase for 20 seconds every 2 minutes that stays after you leave bear form
fossil hemlock
I wasn't talking renewal, I was talking bear form HOTW
quaint wave
Ye I see that now.
fossil hemlock
I can see some situations in pvp where double frenzied is insane value, but in all other regards new hotw is just better
quaint wave
I guess we'll see. Admittedly it has the benefit of being an auto-path-to talent because of circle but
I wonder if people will skip
fossil hemlock
I doubt it, it's an extra defensive if nothing else
(very) budget survival instincts
quaint wave
Yeah but some other talents have been buffed a lot
Forest walk etc, mark of wild buff is an auto take
U prob right though
livid jay
I’ve heard that boomys dos is pretty low. Is this true? Is it because of bugs? Anyone playing beta that could confirm?
drifting nova
skill issue probably
spice roost
lol
drifting nova
always is
livid jay
skill issue probably
Oh look a socially awkward nerd that can’t give a straight answer without being condescending.
delicate perch
Oh look a socially awkward nerd that can’t give a straight answer without being ...
jaunty blaze
Mr. Beast never got a straight answer 😭
delicate perch
and he never will (give me 1 million dollarydoos)
crude cargo
Mista Beast
delicate perch
mista least
spice roost
Oh look a socially awkward nerd that can’t give a straight answer without being ...
it isnt just players like kekkers playing boomie i think the spec just needs tuning but gameplay feels good
drifting nova
Oh look a socially awkward nerd that can’t give a straight answer without being ...
look inwards my padawan
livid jay
real
drifting nova
almost got me killed in alterac mountains smh
livid jay
killed by a copypasta
drifting nova
syndicate shadow mage
jaunty blaze
Classic got hands
drifting nova
silly casters, beaten by going around a door
jaunty blaze
livid jay
i started playing turtle wow like a week ago, thats pretty cool!
spice roost
what is turtle wow is that a private server
livid jay
yeee but with their own client its basically classic + with new zones in the gaps where classic didnt build more
delicate perch
I thought they got nuked
drifting nova
tried ascension once, that was ..something
livid jay
i thought so too but they still around
livid jay
livid jay
tried ascension once, that was ..something
yea i played that for a couple hours was a bit too wild
turtle wow is basically just classic but with a LOT of new content
spice roost
riot mmo is still breathing lol
drifting nova
riot mmo is still breathing lol
we'l be in oap homes by then
fossil hemlock
I thought they got nuked
They're on copium in the period between the takedown-request and the enforcement
AFAIK
fossil hemlock
yea i played that for a couple hours was a bit too wild
They have another game-mode coming soon™, which is classic with 18 new classes or something like that
21 new classes
livid jay
when are they getting nuked by blizzard?
fossil hemlock
At this point, probably never
Ascension has been going strong for a lot of years now
Tinfoil theory is that it's run by a bunch of blizzard devs as a playground
To test things
They've "guessed" new additions to retail way too many times
livid jay
Well Blizz is going for turtle wow cause they want to be the only ones who eventually make classic+. If Ascension gets that new "classic+" mode it might attract some attention 😄
fossil hemlock
It already has classic+
Ascension started out as classic+ too, until it progressed
fossil hemlock
potent cargo
fossil hemlock
Pre-patch comes with the addon changes, yes
livid jay
So do i wait for Gamz import code or do i make my own 
delicate perch
wait for gamz
livid jay
cant wait for Gamz vs Oi importcode war
vale pebble
make your own dont be a sheep
crude cargo
be a chicken
livid jay
make your own dont be a sheep
yea it was kinda funny getting bullied in here every time i send a clip 😄
vale pebble
yea it was kinda funny getting bullied in here every time i send a clip 😄
what for
livid jay
all just jealous of my genius eclipse tracker
vale pebble
no clue how it looked like but i bet it was great
livid jay
vale pebble
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2623604333
wat its good
only thing is
boat being so big is useless
u should have duration there instead
my only complaint
but it being bright and aids to look at is good thats the point of wekauras
livid jay
u should have duration there instead
duration?
vale pebble
eclipse duration instead of boat duration
vale pebble
ur actual eclipse duration is very small
livid jay
boat kinda useless
yeee
i just got used to looking at the bars
the thing a lot of guys hated was that the bar only starts shrinking at the end of the eclipse 😄
livid jay
last 6 seconds i think
vale pebble
why would u not want that
livid jay
thats good no?
i like it too
livid jay
idk most ui's have a long ass bar for the whole duration
my ui originated from something i built ages ago where i had two long ass bars for each eclipse but then wanted to track more stuff so needed space so i just clipped the eclipse bars basically 😄
this is how it was back in the day 😄
sudden flame
mr beast 🥀
pearl pivot
wait till he gets on his break "loser"
potent cargo
livid jay
wait till he gets on his break "loser"
Paddy the baddy vs Mista Beast dreamgrove edition?
misty forge
The only reason I hate your UI @livid jay is because you blast too much man - hopefully tomorrow's UI purge fucks you up
livid jay
The only reason I hate your UI <@174463030187393024> is because you blast too mu...
maybe u can make the druid ui this time xD
misty forge
maybe u can make the druid ui this time xD
I'll definitely be cooking tomorrow 
livid jay
delicate perch
https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-the-opp-stoppa-big-raga-the-opp-stoppa-gif-57543...
Lmfao banger video
woven flint
good morning every1 hope you all have a good start to the week ❤️
stone cairn
Im on my way to work so its already horrible! XD (Im kidding for the most part.)
delicate perch
I’m telling your boss
woven flint
we will use google translate
craggy sonnet
@lucid olive where is our big midnight prepatch survival guide video?
You gotta step up and be the content creator we need but don't deserve.
Now that you are famous and stuff. Gotta cash out
maiden pasture
dont think gamz plays survival mate
stone cairn
we will use google translate
At least use a translator that knows the basics 😭
Google Translate is a numerical and a coding catastrophe
lofty depot
There's other translators?
stone cairn
Yes 
I use DeepL when I need to translate something
It's marginally better for every-day translations
craggy sonnet
dont think gamz plays survival mate
Maybe he should start
lofty depot
He plays 6 other specs that he's not an expert in, don't worry
crude cargo
known meta slave (havoc in m+)
drifting nova
so what is devourer
fossil hemlock
throwing glaives and shit
I think this is actually the one thing they don't do
fossil hemlock
Well unless you count throwing yourself with your glaives in hand as throwing the glaive
They just consume and reap innit
Eye beam
Go super saiyan and throw spirit bombs
2 builds, one at range and one that jumps into melee every idk 40 seconds or whatever
lucid olive
what do they do
It's Astral Antenna: The Spec
fossil hemlock
If only astral antenna sucked up orbs when pressing button
lucid olive
Do damage, drop shit on the ground, pick up shit on the ground to make your cooldowns work
livid jay
Do damage, drop shit on the ground, pick up shit on the ground to make your cool...
oh no
that sounds like number 1 on the deaths statistics
lucid olive
Nah you have an instant cast spell that auto picks souls
And your main spell that drops souls is castable while moving
livid jay
have u tried it?
fossil hemlock
And same concept as souls for havoc/vengeance where you can have X souls on ground, and generating more auto-picks them up
lucid olive
I played it on alpha but haven't played on beta much
livid jay
maybe i'll give it a go too but probably just gonna play mage again as split alt
fossil hemlock
Their spell effects are insanely good
lucid olive
I thought it was unbelievably boring on alpha so haven't bothered after
fossil hemlock
So that's nice
livid jay
is it comparable to any other spec or is it completely new type of feel
lucid olive
It's a DH spec for sure
livid jay
ok
lucid olive
Just not as exciting
livid jay
gotya
crude cargo
to be fair VS hero talent felt engaging
shorter cycle and weaving in/out of melee
the other one i didnt play but i saw some logs and it doesnt look pretty
livid jay
storm python
so tomorrow whats the deal with addons. should i disable elvui details etc when i log in or what?
fossil hemlock
Same as every major patch. You update the ones you can, you turn off the ones that are causing issues
round field
If u dont disable addons ur pc will explode so big it will start ww3
storm python
will greenland explode?
craggy sonnet
Any addon that's not updated is not gonna be able to load
calm ibex
I’m dreading having to make a new UI
round field
will greenland explode?
Soon
calm ibex
I haven’t really messed with mine since WoD
Aside from changing weakauras every expansion
lofty depot
so tomorrow whats the deal with addons. should i disable elvui details etc when ...
Details will work, do know if elv will
lucid olive
yes
livid jay
thank god
lucid olive
yeah just a damage meter reskin
lofty depot
Well, most people just won't
eager raft
probs still a while then, they made sets longer <:mad:1275456001386217502>
new set is expected mid april
cursive mirage
Well, most people just won't
no one will be able to get mad at me for taking kick off my bars >:)
craggy sonnet
See, they are just trying to remove any cause for toxicity. Surely no one is gonna realize there were 0 beams in that dungeon run
cloud citrus
i just beam random targets and say i missed it whoops
lofty depot
Beam the stack, ezpz
craggy sonnet
did they take down the ptr?
errant flint
Gawd how am I supposed to build this UI from scratch
Anything new im supposed to track as far as buffs?
outer wolf
are the servers up?
lofty depot
are the servers up?
yea tettles is farming keys already
vital hound
yea tettles is farming keys already
boreal brook
Do I eat this with onions?
boreal brook
❤️
pseudo merlin
Do I eat this with onions?
Yes
I eat liver plain all the time but there's something special about onions that just makes any type of liver so much better
lofty depot
was funny max was like "theres so many moonkins streaming rwl"
indigo barn
Best answer was in chat. All guilds without moonkin already killed
But dimmy on boomie was kinda good, except P2.2 with no CDs, but that sucked for a lot of specs
boreal brook
This iteration of Balance has been my favourite by far.
Sad it was so short lived
indigo barn
I won't miss double starfire on ST with 0 haste on gear, but otherwise agreed
boreal brook
I did try the Nexus King's Command trinket tech on dimmy, but it felt bad losing most of the prepull procs to the travel RP, then having to heal in the amp p3.
It did feel super consistent compared to other trinkets though
boreal brook
Same same,
But voidcore is also RNG
lofty depot
I did try the Nexus King's Command trinket tech on dimmy, but it felt bad losing...
u dont lose the timing on prepull if done right
funny timing bug
boreal brook
🤯
I will say, it raised my damage floor, even playing it suboptimally.
But they peak was also lower for me.
It was just a hell of a lot more consistent always having the primary when you wanted it.
sturdy terrace
do i understand correctly, that balance becomes more complicated with midnight? i was very happy, when i heard about the pruning, but it seems, that balance was hit the other way?
lofty depot
do i understand correctly, that balance becomes more complicated with midnight? ...
its neither complicated now nor complicated in midnight
boreal brook
the int u get from command is higher than voidcore
But the int you get from Alch stone is even higher.
33k primary
lofty depot
they added 1 button but basically removed the other from your st rotation
pseudo merlin
at the top end the new eclipse system in combination with KOTG cdr/banking effects creates probably way more potential yeah
lofty depot
But the int you get from Alch stone is even higher.
33k primary
WHO THE FUCK IS USING ALCH STONE
boreal brook
lmfao
Not I, but I thought about it.
Voidcore can stack procs, and if you got double proc in cds it was better than Command.
But it was super low chance to get it at the right time
pseudo merlin
I would say that that creates way more room for turbo minmaxing
boreal brook
lmfao
Not I, but I thought about it.
Voidcore can stack procs, and if you got ...
Triple proc even
boreal brook
Because I'd decidedly mid at this game, and panicked 🤷
lucid olive
Do I eat this with onions?
LOL I saw this chat message when I watched it but didn't realize it was Arctic
I recognized the name of the moonkin though
boreal brook
sir why are we not pooling asp at the end of ca
Oh, it was the amp, and I just dumped surges in the last seconds of the amp inting my rotation to fit them in.
Thinking more surges in amp good; what I do outside of amp less important
It was a vibe play
lucid olive
you don't really get both rounds of 4pc in the amp
but in a few hours that 4pc won't exist anymore so who cares
lofty depot
Oh, it was the amp, and I just dumped surges in the last seconds of the amp inti...
more surges in amp is good, but this one isnt in amp
