balance

[silent yarrow]

they cleaved onto other enemies

[spice roost]

oh ok

[silent yarrow]

and there are indeed only 3 of them now

so it is a nerf

[lucid olive]

they do that already

the bolts are uncapped aoe

if you fight 5 stacked mobs you should have 15 dmg events from lunar bolts

cause 3 bolts hit 1 target and does dmg to all 5 targets

if you fight 10 targets you should have 30

etc

[ancient meteor]

I think I like the concept of that! I'm still between my main being balance/resto druid or shadow/disc priest. so hard to decide

[signal meteor]

somewhat random but would like to fix my forgeweaver parse this week - is the play to just send at start of burn, or do you like get the trees/CA globals out of the way as the boss is moving to the center to get more of CD uptime during the burn?

it's only 12 seconds so you can't get both dryad ss's off within the window right?

[lofty depot]

as long as ur convoking during amp

[lofty depot]

u could if u did some cool tech

by cool tech i mean sending a naked CA during the pillars

i havent killed araz in months tho :/

[lucid olive]

noob

[stiff tinsel]

age of madness is very similar to the first law, yeah, takes place about... thirty-five? years after the end of the first law, with a fair amount of returning characters. i wouldn't read it without reading the first law, tho i suppose you could. there are also some standalone novels in between the two trilogies with varying levels of worth as their own thing isolated from the series

the devils definitely stands on its own, the plan for the sequels is a sort of monster of the week kind of vibe. so some returning characters, but a completely new main plot each time

[drifting nova]

is chicken good

(in bc)

[lofty depot]

sell dimmy >

kill 2 and leave

[meager storm]

just kinda high roll a single week and scam a top 3

[lofty depot]

guys are we cooked

[devout hazel]

with midnight getting closer is boomy looking good at all or are we kinda chopped as of right now (i know nothing is in stone yet)

[lofty depot]

tuning is still happening

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/nailong-dwerk-nai-long-gif-15426790143370555042

tune this

[lofty depot]

and u wont really know real power til few weeks after launch :/

[devout hazel]

my main concern is rotationally is it fun

[lofty depot]

largely the same, with maybe the addition to playing weaver and cosmos

well the same as like season 1/2 tww

[devout hazel]

worst case scenario i play guardian for a season

[lofty depot]

theres plenty of people that play boomkin regardless of its power

last tier we were even bad at the start and completely fine after rwf. Think it was the first tier we ended above 50%

[lucid olive]

we were fine in Undermine after rwf too

if you're bad at the launch of a patch it usually evens itself out after buffs a few weeks into the patch

think that's happened to us all 3 tiers this expac

[meager storm]

and then we fell off

[lucid olive]

Undermine was so strange

Stix not counting on logs

Bomber adds on Bandit not counting

And our timers fit perfect to full send on the bomber booty add spawn

[loud kettle]

feral got a bump when stix was removed 💀

[lucid olive]

fearl

[lofty depot]

were outside with it

[drifting nova]

just tettles

[dense steeple]

If i can get CE on boomkin, so can you guys

[drifting nova]

it was for charity tho?

[fast finch]

what are we supposed to do the whole pre-patch month?

[lofty depot]

play the new tft season

play arc

go touch grass?

[lucid olive]

legg of leggends

[true viper]

dmg amps carry

[lofty depot]

thats just called winning

[true viper]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[delicate perch]

Even kekkers?

[uncut roost]

Proud of you ❤️

[dense steeple]

No

[drifting nova]

tbcs out

[drifting nova]

wdym even me? only reason he got in I skipped this tier

[delicate perch]

[drifting nova]

the amount of boosters on bc makes me sick

[royal zenith]

Ahwww poor kekkers!!

[round field]

Well someone needs to be there to get bad players like you the achievments

[drifting nova]

ackshully there are no achs (and I'm level 27 or 28 I forget)

[round field]

Ur so shit u cant even level a character

[drifting nova]

I hit 20 waiting to do dm when it released then just stopepd

got prepatch to hit 60

[livid jay]

iqni got up on the wrong foot 🙁

[round field]

wdym

its kekkers

[swift crater]

Gang is there somewhere modern to do / look for recruitment that wowprogress? My RL still uses it and I help him chase up people he has messaged but EVERYONE just says 'oh weird I don't check there for messages' 😄

Is there some newer site that has actual message alerting or is wowprog still the place people would (if you were a raider) update your profile saying your looking

[slate holly]

raider.io you can enter that you are looking and then guilds can filter for what they search

[craggy sonnet]

warcraftlogs as well

[swift crater]

As in you can send people messages through rio and wlogs, or you can just see potential recruits/people LFGuild and then message them through Discord/Bnet or whatever they provide?

I'll have a quick look at both see how it works, I assume he IS using these as well but wowprog is a pain

[craggy sonnet]

you can message through rio

and on wcl, you have to give some form of contact info

[livid jay]

there also is a recruitment discord

[swift crater]

Oh do you know this off hand?

[livid jay]

my message with the link was blocked by dreamgrove

sending u a dm

[craggy sonnet]

dreamgrove trying to keep us down

[livid jay]

jx8CXHP this is the invite code i guess 😄

[lofty depot]

The 2 times I was recruited and multiple times I was messaged is warcraftlogs. I would however set up both warcraftlogs and Rio to do so. The recruitment discord u get a lot of apps aswell, granted a lot of those people can't read raid times correctly

[dense steeple]

I posted in the recruitment discord and got literally 30 dms that day

[royal zenith]

oh yeah?

I dont believe you

it better be exactly 30

[round field]

It was 30 hate messages

[dense steeple]

That actually reminds me i gotta reply to that guy i told him id hit him up last night if i was interested or not

[vital swift]

how to use new eclipse button? i use it when i have 80+ ap? or send on cooldown?

[swift crater]

Thanks folks appreciated

[lofty depot]

Well there will be timings that u likely want to use it. Add spawns, timing with trees or procs. But I would assume above 100 not 80, but that's more of a sim question which will be answered closer to launch

[livid jay]

christmas is over we should go back to pride nails

[dire osprey]

[eager raft]

@royal zenith

[royal zenith]

?

[eager raft]

Oh I was gonna accuse you of ignoring me yesterday

But I see now that you answered

carry on

[royal zenith]

Schizo

[eager raft]

You don’t @ me when u respond 🙁

[royal zenith]

Cause that’s rude, if you reply* within a minute

Internet etiquette

[lucid olive]

you're so real for that

[royal zenith]

I didnt reply within a minute though, so thats mb

I checked

You’re in the right this time @eager raft

[acoustic pawn]

are there any dps sims out yet?

[lucid olive]

no

[acoustic pawn]

@lucid olive was boomie as ever enjoyable as it is right now in beta?

it feels smooth as fuck

[lucid olive]

Season 1 of Dragonflight was pretty good

Shadowlands season 3 and the DF prepatch was fun too, in prepatch probably the most fun

but I think the Midnight version definitely feels good

[terse shell]

Yo is beta down?

[lucid olive]

probably

[true viper]

what ui am i booting up next week

[eager raft]

I don’t know if that’s ever happened before

[lament sigil]

Bro @royal zenith

Love the new pp

[smoky remnant]

is beta down?

[lucid olive]

probably

[smoky remnant]

just read

sorry

[royal zenith]

ty puzzle

[vital hound]

yo you got a haircut

wtf lookin sharp

[lucid olive]

sure you can find something

[vital hound]

need tettles ui subscription

[lucid olive]

i know Unhalted is releasing a "better cooldown manager" addon for pre-patch so probably that paired with Unhalted UnitFrames tbh

but Elvui also updating so who knows

[true viper]

all i know is nephui is from some dude who used chatgpt and theres issues he cant fix because he doesnt know how

[vital hound]

[brave gulch]

hello @lucid olive

[lucid olive]

https://github.com/DaleHuntGB/BetterCooldownManager

can try it on the pre patch ptr i think

[lofty depot]

Gamz will post his UI settings ,pray

[true viper]

unhalted goated

[lofty depot]

U still playing rdru in midnight, trying to get my boy session to play boomkin 😭

[brave gulch]

yeah I am idk what he wants to play though lmao

[lucid olive]

theres only room for 1 moonkin in Nurfed

and that is @wicked shuttle the tettler

[eager raft]

@brave gulch

hello

[brave gulch]

hello

[eager raft]

How are u goat

[lofty depot]

Gotta get that rat off of melee he's had it too easy for too long

[brave gulch]

[brave gulch]

im good

ive started going on daily hour long mental health walks

[lofty depot]

@fossil parcel

[brave gulch]

LMAO

just stick to rogue man that class is always good

[lofty depot]

Stop talking

So listen to him

[brave gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190147289168232459/1451050838020853834/singlebungle1472-20251217-190731-000.gif

[lofty depot]

Rise out of the shackles of rogue

[brave gulch]

[eager raft]

Good stuff man I should really start doing the same

[vital hound]

have you seen the tettleton ui

very suave

[brave gulch]

tettleton can finally play moonkin

that spec isnt dogass anymore I think

[vital hound]

yea but he won't

you just know bro is logging into ele/aug

[brave gulch]

I dont think he's said what he's playing but I also never keep up with guild stuff post tier tbh

[lucid olive]

[lofty depot]

I have, it looks good

[brave gulch]

hmm

[vital hound]

send profile

[lofty depot]

I said I've seen it, I don't have it lol

Waiting for gamz to send me his, dub

[vital hound]

o

gg

i want to pay tettleton manor but he won't let me

[lucid olive]

I'll probably use the BetterCDM addon with elvui or unhalted

[eager raft]

I will raw dog it like blizzard intended

[exotic perch]

yea next week will be fun spending like 3 hours doing the ui all again

[teal sphinx]

i gotta download PTR to see whats bricked

[exotic perch]

oh youll find out

dont need ptr

[teal sphinx]

well i use SUF, plater, and a WA for my tracking

and thats it

everything else is blizz default

curious if SUF is bricked

[lofty depot]

WA doesn't exist silly

[sudden pawn]

i will also be using better cdm and unhalted

[lofty depot]

Who?

[sudden pawn]

i already deleted every addon and went full default this week

just start from scratch next week very chill

[lucid olive]

yeah think this is the way tbh

bettercdm just gives cast bar and power bar scaling with the size of your essentials group

[sudden pawn]

i think ill in total have like 6-8 addons
details (if it works)
plater (if it works)
better cdm
unhalted
rc loot

[lucid olive]

then splash a unitframe addon on there

DandersFrames is also good for party and raid frames on beta

[sudden pawn]

and a few more

[lucid olive]

Details works on beta

Just not all the plugins

and greatly reduced the number of things you can check

[sudden pawn]

ya thats fine as long as i can make it look pretty

[lucid olive]

but at least it looks better than the default UI dmg meter

I'll probably use like

[sudden pawn]

does big wigs work? as a skinning tool? i dont like the blizzard boss abilities count down line, id rather have it in boxes

[lucid olive]

bigwigs works yeah

I used it for a bit in raid testing

It was fine except for like 1 big error

idk if Blizzard has fixed it

[lofty depot]

Mrt and/or northern sky addon thingy

[sudden pawn]

ya need the northern sky thing for assignments at some point

thats another +1

[lucid olive]

Since boss timers for individual spells are secret then they will all fire at the same time whenever you pull a boss

so you're getting like 5 minutes of timers on your screen when you pull

[sudden pawn]

i do think a safe bet is just start from scratch and add things day by day until its to ur liking

[lucid olive]

BigWigs can stop this by limiting the number of bars they show

[lofty depot]

Or until someone tells u something to add yea

[lucid olive]

but then you won't get like phase change timers 1 min in advance

[sudden pawn]

oh.. thats kinda scuffed

[lucid olive]

I laughed pretty hard when I pulled that double dragon boss and my screen froze for like 6 seconds and my entire screen was filled with timers

[sudden pawn]

its all for the cause, now they can make bosses that arent trash (they were able to make bosses before all this not trash anyway with or without addons existing)

[lucid olive]

found the clip i took of it

[hollow atlas]

if i had like say 5 balance druids for gold farming, would it be best to put em all on connected realms, unconnected realms; should they be on the same faction or does none or just some of that matter

thinking all balance: some druid miner/herb, others skinning/tailors

figure balance druids best to ask about gathering farms

[sudden pawn]

[lucid olive]

idk if anyone in here knows a lot about gathering

this is mostly m+ and raiding channel

but maybe you get lucky

[lofty depot]

U can transfer gold through the war bound thing now

[hollow atlas]

ahhh gotcha gotcha, im a m+ guy myself: was thinking bout actually trying to not be broke for once next xpac XD

[normal pilot]

is gold farming still that prevalent on live. figure most ppl just swipe card

[sudden pawn]

just swipe ur credit card

[lofty depot]

Mats on the other hand need to be in same server prob

[lucid olive]

swipe card or boost raids usually

[normal pilot]

yeah farming for gold seems the worst way to go

[lucid olive]

leave that to the bots

[normal pilot]

boost or play AH at early xpac

[lofty depot]

Sell kills, easy gold. Never farm it

[sudden pawn]

farm for gold irl by clocking into the long day factory

[lucid olive]

much like real life products i don't want to find out or know how the gold is earned

[lucid olive]

yeah play AH at early xpac is very lucrative

guildie of mine made like 30 mill the first few weeks in War Within after flipping tinderboxes

[hollow atlas]

tru ig the credit card is faster, but what of the dopamine & trying to avoid the "grim guilt & utter shame" of p2w haha

[somber path]

prob some prof shuffle to

[lofty depot]

Dragon light gambling

[sudden pawn]

remember that one guy who got the elemental lariat recipe first in dragonflight, some DK

[lucid olive]

yeah i'd get into a crafting profession like leatherworking or enchanting early i think

[sudden pawn]

some say that guy bought an island

and retired off that

[lucid olive]

yeah he owns belameth

[craggy sonnet]

is that next weeks raid experience?

[lucid olive]

they gave it to him

[lucid olive]

idk if it's been changed since then

bigwigs probably changed something

[craggy sonnet]

ye probably

[lucid olive]

can't have everyone perma lagging on pull lmao

[teal sphinx]

an old guildie of mine got it in s1, i vaguely remember him saying between that and enchants he had made over 100m at the end of s2

i was like wtf

[craggy sonnet]

have you been playing around with the unhalted guys cdm addon?

[sudden pawn]

i keep hearing reviews saying unhalteds is good

based on his discord

[normal pilot]

yeah start of xpac crafting + AH is insane since DF

[teal sphinx]

s1 DF

[lucid olive]

not yet no

i wanted to try it on beta to see if it works there

i know hes making it for prepatch though

but beta has been down for a bit

[loud kettle]

s1 df was rough, so much competition

Er

Df

[craggy sonnet]

ptr and beta should be almost same still

re api stuff

[teal sphinx]

yea i think i made a solid 1.5m from just kinda throwing stuff in

the first couple of weeks of TWW

[lucid olive]

mmm think there's some stuff being shipped in a patch week before release that won't be on the prepatch

in regards to addon stuff

[teal sphinx]

leveling greens were BIG

[craggy sonnet]

yes, but right now, there are almost no differences

just one smaller api update since they locked in prepatch

so testing on beta vs prepatch ptr should be pretty same-y

does anyone know if the quazii addon is supposed to stay paywalled?

[lucid olive]

until launch i think

[craggy sonnet]

cause i've only read free elvui profiles and stuff would be coming from him still. nothing about the addon

[lucid olive]

but might be yapping idk much about quazi other than the "his addon had some stolen code in it" bit recently

[craggy sonnet]

but thats a bold move if it was to stay patreon exclusive

[lucid olive]

if i wanted a paid UI i'd go for either FragUI or Atrocity

if i want a free UI i'd go for LuckyOne

[craggy sonnet]

not even technically a loophole regarding addon dev guideline stuff

[lucid olive]

or just set it up myself

[craggy sonnet]

well, all of these rely on elvui

[lucid olive]

FragUI doesn't

[craggy sonnet]

which probably wont make it til prepatch

[lucid olive]

elvui will have a prepatch update

[craggy sonnet]

insider info

nice

[lucid olive]

is it?

[lofty depot]

Atrocity said he'll have his for prepatch

So assume yea elv will work lol

[cursive mirage]

LEAKER

[craggy sonnet]

making stuff up

[lucid olive]

If people start using Unhalted's BetterCDM then you might as well use FragUI if you're okay with the paywall

since Unhalted makes it

[craggy sonnet]

i have not really actively seen anything about FragUI

[cursive mirage]

It’s a very neat thing blizzard did. Basically make 0 changes to what addons can do outside of dynamic combat assignments while also making addons significantly more frustrating to set up/manage so you feel even more pressure to pay people to do it for you.

[craggy sonnet]

tbf, quazii thing does not look bad .. if it wasnt paywalled

[lofty depot]

It says prepatch silly

[gentle scroll]

But at least they nuked Hekili. Now they dont have to make bosses that they chose to make anymore.

[craggy sonnet]

blud, im talking start of prepatch

[lofty depot]

Didn't ask

[lofty depot]

They have their own hekili

[cursive mirage]

They literally have hekili in the game

[gentle scroll]

Ah yes, the one that teaches you the wrong rotation as a joke

[cursive mirage]

So….Hekili

[lofty depot]

If ur using 1 button, ur not using it because u want optimal dps

[plucky valley]

HA

I genuinely chuckled

[craggy sonnet]

what does the 2nd part of that even mean?

[cursive mirage]

Do people think Hekili rotations were optimal? Not even shitting on the addon. Its job wasn’t to be optimal it was to help players who just wanted a chill way to play somewhat well. But it certainly wasn’t optimal just like blizzard’s isn’t optimal

[gentle scroll]

Nothing that tells you exactly what to do is going to be perfect with the fact that nothing in the game is static really anymore.

[lofty depot]

The suspense is killing me

[cursive mirage]

Right so…

[cursive mirage]

?

[teal sphinx]

[gentle scroll]

But my understanding is the hekili used like simc rotations or something that stayed current

[teal sphinx]

No

It never did

[silent yarrow]

it sort of di

did*

[plucky valley]

You have to derive the truth values. What’s fact and what’s not

[cursive mirage]

I mean if the argument is that Hekili was better at being closer to “optimal” on average across specs than blizzard’s version…ok?

[gentle scroll]

yeah

[plucky valley]

Slay you tell’em goobs

[cursive mirage]

Also remember one button rotation isn’t even the comp. It’s the highlight your next spell cast thing which iirc is pretty close

[silent yarrow]

like that's the high-level of what it does, in practice, simc APLs have no connection to anything in the actual game, they are only meaningful in simc

[cursive mirage]

Either way what does Hekili being dead have to do with raid boss design?

[lofty depot]

U don't copy every action directly from simc to get maximum dps?

[silent yarrow]

so there was always a translation from the APL into something hekili could understand

[cursive mirage]

I literally am the raid bot

[plucky valley]

But in what context?

[lofty depot]

Ur a bot forsure

[lucid olive]

what does this mean

[plucky valley]

Ooohh got him

[cursive mirage]

No one knows Gamz

No one knows what anything means

[plucky valley]

I do

[cursive mirage]

Time is a flat circle

[plucky valley]

Speak for yourself

[silent yarrow]

simc APLs are for running simulations in simulation craft

[cursive mirage]

We live in a simulation

[lofty depot]

Time to go rewatch true detective

[cursive mirage]

I’m desperately trying to procrastinate work right now. I might go take a trip to the forum post and see what unhinged takes have arrived

[silent yarrow]

i think a better way of making the same point there is that simulation craft != the actual game

[lucid olive]

hekili != the actual game either

or

idk maybe i'm stupid but i don't see how it's relevant

[cursive mirage]

Yeah this whole convo has derailed

[lucid olive]

neither hekili or simc apl should be used as a guideline for how to play the game

[silent yarrow]

right but it runs in the context of the actual game and uses completely different apis to parse the current combat state and decide which action from the apl to recommend

[lucid olive]

you should instead read my guides over on dreamgrove.gg and method.gg (soon™) and use them to play the game

[cursive mirage]

Woah spoiler. Method guy

[potent cargo]

wtf me reading

[cursive mirage]

Don’t read

[potent cargo]

[cursive mirage]

Reading is bad for you

[craggy sonnet]

even more insider infos

wth

[cursive mirage]

When it’s this chat

[lucid olive]

chat been down since paper got canned

[cursive mirage]

Stop

[lucid olive]

@wicked shuttle bring the goat back this place needs some spice

[cursive mirage]

[lucid olive]

i wake up in the evenings and i don't even have to scroll to find my latest message

balance has lost it

[cursive mirage]

Tettles new haircut too professional to allow that

[lucid olive]

nobody reciprocates my oogie woogie gif either

@teal sphinx how could balance channel fail like this

[potent cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-cotr-turtle-gif-24251592

[cursive mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-cotr-turtle-gif-24251592

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-cotr-turtle-gif-24251592

[potent cargo]

When was the last copy pasta that came from boomy

[cursive mirage]

WE ARE SO BACK

[potent cargo]

Mfs been slacking

[cursive mirage]

@teal sphinx where is your spreadsheet guy.

This man just refines his spreadsheet every week during raid time while he’s on the bench

[lofty depot]

Gonna go tell method that you hate them and hopefully they don't hire u

[cursive mirage]

Arctic let’s step outside for a moment

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/struppl-gif-19222748

[delicate perch]

Prepatch soon, someone will come in and give us content

[lofty depot]

That's a goated gif, holy

[dense steeple]

true

[dense steeple]

you dont have it bookmarked?

its literally my first pinned tab

[craggy sonnet]

remove paywalls btw

[dense steeple]

best bookmark

only one needed

[potent cargo]

lorggs & boomkin copypasta all you need

[teal sphinx]

Because I rerolled to shaman and dont come here anymore

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-cotr-turtle-gif-24251592

But who knows maybe ill be back. (I doubt it)

[cursive mirage]

He won’t.

[lofty depot]

only comes back when he gets pinged :/

[spice roost]

is tettles running a bad build or something ? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AqWK2bhBxaYcTJZD?fight=7&type=damage-done

[lucid olive]

probably

[meager storm]

ec weaver

[spice roost]

this is kotg from that log or did u mean tettles

[meager storm]

that log is not kotg

[spice roost]

how doi u know

[meager storm]

and u can go to buffs

also where is the treants dmg on the logs gangy

[spice roost]

oh true

[meager storm]

dreamburst too

[dense steeple]

dont worry lorrgs is there

[lofty depot]

thats cute

[potent cargo]

looking at my logs? nice bro

if u want help just ask

lil gup

[dense steeple]

potential guild apps

no doxx

[stone ledge]

Out them

[lucid olive]

who's Luke and what's the "How To:" youtube video

[dense steeple]

luke is my buddy, the how to is a no mans sky thing to help boost some power

but i havent had time to do it

[shy bay]

Hey guys, sadly, i will roll away from balance in midnight. however, i have writen down my thoughts on the current state of balance in the the Druid Feedback Forum: https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-druids/590292/69
Would love to hear your opinions on it.
(TL;DR: Revert Midnight changes, give us a new Spell/Cooldown that allows skill-expression and make us go BOOM)

[dense steeple]

i promise you some forum trolls are about to roll you for your post regardless of our opinion

[shy bay]

Yes. im well prepared

[dense steeple]

okay cool. just making sure youre aware so you wont feel bad

[shy bay]

If this leads to some chance of this being realised in The Last Titan, im willing to take the heat 🙂

[lofty depot]

who

[shy bay]

You an owl?

(I can do this too :P)

[craggy sonnet]

who who

[exotic perch]

why is your spell not related to the sun or the moon lmao

[craggy sonnet]

dont worry. wont have to wait til last titan. surely lots of changes coming to the fellow druid class until midnight release

[exotic perch]

must be a relative to the azerite huffing bronzebeard

[sudden pawn]

suggesting for them to make certain talents based on what u think has to be the absolute worst way to give feedback

hey ur ideas crap heres mine i thought about thats much better

[lofty depot]

worse vers rating?

[potent cargo]

didnt even read the post but i know its bad

[lofty depot]

lackluster*

[potent cargo]

see how easy that was

[shy bay]

Dmg gain, without dmg taken reduction, no? 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

what are you swapping to btw?

[potent cargo]

pulsar wasn't even good skill expression either

u either hate ur life pooling and not doing any dmg or you die and lose ur stacks

[dense steeple]

brother i have to ask if you know what an event horizon is

[potent cargo]

either way its rinsed

[lofty depot]

u gain less damage

[sudden pawn]

However, the solution to the above mentioned problems I came up
i stopped reading

[potent cargo]

boomy viability on add swaps or target swap, prio dmg etc. based on how you have performed and whether or not u got mechanics over the past x period was horrendous

the amount of times on wf prog when pulsar didnt align bc you have too much haste, too little haste, you got rasza bomb and lose uptime, have to go bear form etc

and then u just do nthing

yepeee wohoo great talent

puck fulsar

[dense steeple]

dimmensius p1 felt great getting the bomb thing right when i'm trying to get rid of my trees charges right or get into eclipse 🙂

[lofty depot]

also, u get ignored by blizzard cuz u made suggestions

tragic really

[potent cargo]

its pointless to say anything

[sudden pawn]

mostly

[potent cargo]

years ago in bfa i got opportunity to write letter literally to ion

like it was guaranteed to be read

[shy bay]

I feel you!

[potent cargo]

gave like 3k words on how to fix game

nothing happened

[sudden pawn]

the best thing u can do is say "this talent feels good, this talent feels bad" and thats about the extent they wanna hear

they give absolutely zero fucks if u suggest a talent to be made

[potent cargo]

blizz dont wanna hear shit about anything

the last dev we had was a sex pest

deluded asf

[craggy sonnet]

what are you swapping to?

[sudden pawn]

nah they probably generally care about how a talent plays and or feels in application, they do not care about what u think is better tho

or what does the highest damage

[dense steeple]

i read sex priest and was very confused

[potent cargo]

boomy has felt dogshit for what

every xpac?

[dense steeple]

if they cared about how something played or felt in application we wouldnt be in the position weve been in for 2.5 expacs

[shy bay]

Thats a secret 🤫

[craggy sonnet]

im still very confused .. is this actually a thing?

[potent cargo]

the eclispe change is actually good

but should be 100% uptime

or tbh just be fucked off

[dense steeple]

yeah theyre usually ordained by the catholic church but you can find them in more local denominations too

[potent cargo]

because maintenance button for friction seems arbitrary

[lofty depot]

whole heartly disagree

[sudden pawn]

thats the caveat, it occasionally takes a long time for them to reach that perspective, thats why its annoying
they have to reach that point on their own

so it is what it is

[craggy sonnet]

oh, i meant the prev dev being a sex pest

[lofty depot]

midnight mastery >

dot mastery is ass

[potent cargo]

midnight mastery is great

100%

[lofty depot]

if u think otherwise, ur wrong

[potent cargo]

biggest fkn gripe

over this shit spec

[dense steeple]

oh, i mean likely. blizz fired a ton of them and all of a sudden we had new devs sooo

ima be real team

i havent even looked at the midnight changes yet

because why learn something 3 months before its live if its gonna change 18 times in between

[loud kettle]

thats not very team of u

[dense steeple]

this is why i cant be green ||there are many more prolific reasons||

[lofty depot]

maybe the devs went on to bigger and better things

(they left to go work for riot)

[dense steeple]

the league mmo will be the wow killer for sure

[shy bay]

So, when are we closing Dreamgrove then?

[craggy sonnet]

dont tell your prospective new guild you didnt care to keep up with your spec

[lofty depot]

why would dreamgrove close

blizzard doesnt read this

[shy bay]

Protest, fun, maybe some other reasons?

[dense steeple]

its not that i didnt care to keep up with it, its that it literally does not matter yet

[sudden pawn]

protest what

[lofty depot]

protests are cringe
fun, whats that
find some other reasons

[shy bay]

"Reasons"

[potent cargo]

why protest

[lofty depot]

pally protest wasnt the reason they got buffed

we didnt protest and we got buffed

protest =/= buffs

[loud kettle]

@sharp tangle we got one in bamkin chat

[lofty depot]

dont protest =/= buffs

[potent cargo]

the dev legit was a sex pest

[exotic perch]

we can protest the current administration

[potent cargo]

got shitcanned

thank fuck

[lofty depot]

do u mean like thyme and tettles or

[craggy sonnet]

matters next week

when you gonna have to trial

[dense steeple]

and next week we will not be raiding lmao

[exotic perch]

there are like 3 answers to that arctic lol

[lofty depot]

like names.. cuz yes and no is only 2

[loud kettle]

1. yes
2. basically yes
3. no

we gotta protest pawkets and dyne and xan

[lofty depot]

should protest this little rat feral player

[potent cargo]

FAQ channel when

[lofty depot]

when thyme is gone

[shy bay]

How right you have been.... ❤️

[stone ledge]

This channel has been bolas’d until further buffs

[dense steeple]

oh those people werent trolls

[shut rose]

Chat is boomy cooked

[dense steeple]

you ever been to costco

[lofty depot]

i could troll him but it would be toxic

i chose to be constructive

[dense steeple]

weird flex

[shut rose]

Like 3 times in my life

[lofty depot]

type shit

[exotic perch]

it does help when your idea kinda sucks

[dense steeple]

aight so something theyre known for is a $5 rotisserie chicken

[shut rose]

Ok

What's the context here

[dense steeple]

it comes cooked

take it as you will

[lofty depot]

in microplastics

[shut rose]

Fair enough.

I figured that was the case

Ggs

[exotic perch]

brother we are all microplastics

it doesnt matter what you do

[potent cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/296496792420220929/1016334670251700254/attachment.gif

love microplastics

[dense steeple]

boy do i have news for you

[pseudo drum]

$1.50 dog is the real mvp

[hollow mist]

[lucid olive]

some people are megaplastic

[fiery kindle]

Hey guys, are we good at midnight? I heard things are going well in the raid. Can you give us some quick updates?

20 sec starlord seems good

[lofty depot]

the 20s of starlord largely doesnt matter

but uhh looking at damage during beta / raid testing isnt smart

tuning changes and we got basically no changes rotationally and plenty of classes changed so they just look worse

[fiery kindle]

In my opinion it was bad in War Within

I like the new Eclipse we'll see in the prepatch

[lofty depot]

what part was bad

[uncut roost]

Costco needs a pizza combo too, that pepperoni good

[meager storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1119417141062533180/1123720753821524068/ED6EFBC5-A68E-48C6-9103-B123B1ECC22D.gif

[delicate perch]

Asking if we’re good in an xpac that hasn’t happened then giving your opinion is wild

[drifting nova]

whys it called midnight

if its not the 12th xpac

[quaint wave]

Why is it wild to issue an opinion about a class u played and part u didn't like lol

[true viper]

Cuz it releases at midnight

[drifting nova]

in what universe

[normal pilot]

it's wow version 12

[lucid olive]

yo this spell would be sick

gen AP for 10+ seconds and then spend it all in one go

[drifting nova]

charging..mah lazor?

[dense steeple]

too bad an event horizon isnt a beam of anything

[drifting nova]

its the state of chicken

hopeless

[cursive mirage]

we are trash. please buff

[delicate perch]

I’m telling blizzard to nerf you only

[cursive mirage]

thats so fucked up man

how do you look yourself in the mirror?!

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[delicate perch]

Like this

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[crude cargo]

swear i played a cs game yesterday vs a mf that had that pfp

[delicate perch]

it was me if they did well

but if not it wasn't

[livid jay]

does anyone have a clip of starweaver back to back to back dopamine injections from back in the day?

[twin lotus]

starfall in ST

peak boomie

[sudden flame]

[crude cargo]

🥀

[spice roost]

could be ALOT worse we could be feral lol

[sudden flame]

[spice roost]

🫵

[spice roost]

why do we starfall on st is it because of weaver giving free ss procs ? because ss damage on tooltip is higher then starfall so im curious as to why

[crude cargo]

i think its a mix of tierset and talents for starfall are pretty strong

plus the fact you have a higher chance of proc to get free starsurge

[craggy sonnet]

chance on weaver is disproportionally higher for SF vs SS .. so more hail of stars procs / more shs dmg

[spice roost]

so do we starfall pre tierset

on st

[craggy sonnet]

who knows

[spice roost]

such as prepatch

[crude cargo]

no sims no real numbers

[pallid bay]

starfall should do more with meteorites

but no one can answer how that talent works

[spice roost]

ok

[craggy sonnet]

wait do we actually not?

[pallid bay]

thats just some random math

[craggy sonnet]

thought its legit just hitting one target within your starfall every tick

[pallid bay]

maybe

no one has given me an answer the three times ive asked

so im assuming no one actually tested it

[craggy sonnet]

hm aight

[pallid bay]

you may very well be correct but

[quiet drift]

I love going to ptr

and not seeing goldrin on my damage meter

#loveblizz

[livid jay]

is fullmoon back on ptr?

[fair mist]

With weaver on ptr the prio is to send the free procs right away pretty much no matter the situation right?

[spice roost]

wdym is it back?

[quiet drift]

You can hold them aslong as youre not going to overwrite them

[craggy sonnet]

VFX has been missing most of tww.
It was brought back on beta. Not sure about ptr

[serene hound]

DId we find any good AP bars yet?

Homies

[dire osprey]

[livid jay]

cast a fullmoon in retail and see what happens

[spice roost]

oh you meant the visual effect i was just not sure what you meant

[livid jay]

yeee

[tardy hare]

So we're at 19% p3 on Dimensius. One raid left on sunday.

[crude cargo]

🙏

[spice roost]

ya i knew about this i was just not sure what they meant is all

[spice roost]

senseiclassresourcebar is a good addon for asp bar

[lofty depot]

Unhalted does it if u just want to use that for a lot of stuff

[craggy sonnet]

The CDM addon you mean?
Cause that doesn't have a stable release version yet afaik

[lofty depot]

Uh, I asked gamz if he uses sensei's and he said unhalted does it

[craggy sonnet]

Ah.

[lofty depot]

The cdm addon surely gets released on preparch

[paper flower]

Will the compendium be updated with spell/spec/rotation guides come Midnight or Pre-Patch? Is pre-patch just the stat squish and Midnight is the removal/reduction of the abilities and things?

Sorry finally able to pull my head out of remix long enough to take some air.

[potent cargo]

will definitely be updated for midnight once the dust settles

if you need something the mean time wowhead will probably post something adhoc i imagine during pre patch

[paper flower]

But our abilities are not getting chopped until Midnight actually comes out, right? Like the eclipse change.

[restive jolt]

class changes come out prepatch

[lofty depot]

Can't write a guide based on assumptions of how to play

[royal zenith]

also can't really predict what blizzard will do in the next few weeks

maybe they will delete feral, who knows

[restive jolt]

this too

[restive jolt]

then ill only have one dps spec to decide on playing

[lofty depot]

It plays more like s2 boomkin, but outside of that. Talent builds, sequencing, minmax of CD usage is all up in the air and require Sims to know

It's prepatch, go mess around. Classes arent balanced around having midnight talents but missing 4 points or w.e.

[crude cargo]

It's prepatch, go mess around. Classes arent balanced

[restive jolt]

its prepatch delete feral

[dire osprey]

🙏

[spice roost]

That would be funny

[dire osprey]

"we feel like there is too many classes bloating the game. So in order to make room for devourer, we will be deleting feral"

[spice roost]

Lmao

[quiet drift]

Feral and guardian becoming 1 spec again

[crude cargo]

to bring all classes in line of having only 3 specs

feral gotta go

🥀

[quiet drift]

Balance is restored

[pallid bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754867280159965196/1002750249539997716/attachment-2.gif

[wicked shuttle]

this is me and my cat

[round field]

time to go on a diet

[smoky remnant]

beta down again?

daamn 🙁

[maiden pasture]

loaded up discord, saw that theres some starfall on ST shenanigans, fuck this spec

[wicked shuttle]

That was more of a thing a month ago

Meteorites has been nerfed since then

[maiden pasture]

Ws in the chat

[dense steeple]

I still liek the idea of just pressing moonfire and starfalls

Great gameplay

I miss it

[wicked shuttle]

Legion private servers

[craggy sonnet]

Do we know it's not a thing anymore tho?

[wicked shuttle]

I could make something up

I’d be surprised

[lofty depot]

You wouldn't have that spell outside of eclipse what yhe

[plucky valley]

WHAT THE HECK

[round field]

why would you use full moon as a filler during eclipse downtime?

[normal pilot]

you can't tell him what to do

[fierce monolith]

Anyone know when the beta will be back up?

[gentle scroll]

🔮 ask again later

[fierce monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/catsniff-catsmell-smell-cat-gif-25675708

[sudden flame]

Ye my dad works at blizzard

[fierce monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/false-facts-fake-news-gif-3718583105056900815

[sudden flame]

He says they are removing moonkin from the game so beta is down in the meantime

[royal zenith]

original joke man

must be a feral player

[delicate perch]

That’s a long sentence for a feral player tbh, quite impressive

[fluid sluice]

Hey what if they added a spell called Orbit that worked like Lifegrip except it made the target spin around you at high velocity for a few seconds

[jade flume]

How hyped are we for prepatch bois

[round field]

😐

[exotic perch]

excited to fiddle with my ui for 3 hours

[leaden warren]

that will be fun

[lucid olive]

barely takes 1

[exotic perch]

thank god though ifeel half of it will be figuring out what addons to scrap

[lucid olive]

scrap weakauras

the rest are fine i think

omnicd obviously gone

get Better Cooldown Manager whenever it releases (should be before prepatch) and then Unhalted UnitFrames

both the Better Cooldown Manager addon and Unhalted have anchor options to make them dynamically follow each other whenever you talent into another spell that fills up your essentials bar

my addons on beta are

Chattynator
Talent Tree Tweaks
Buggrabber + Bugsack
Baganator
Syndicator
Platynator
Unhalted Unit Frames
AtrocityMedia (so I can set the Atrocity texture for stuff)
BasicMiniMap
DandersFrames
Details
MRT
MPlusTimer (the one by Reloe)
Ultimate Mouse Cursor

and like over half of those are cosmetic anyway

[gentle scroll]

[royal zenith]

Platynator

Chattynator

[loud kettle]

terminator

[lucid olive]

good addons tbh

[loud kettle]

I hardly know her !

[lucid olive]

not reacting to syndicator and baganator though

[clever ibex]

ElvUI was confirmed for Midnight, right?

[lucid olive]

either prepatch or the launch patch

prepatch is 12.0 and the launch is 12.01

after going for elvui I will probably use that and scrap dandersframes, basicminimap, unhalted and chattynator

[fast finch]

So all Weakauras are gone?

[lucid olive]

yes

the addon is not supported anymore

[craggy sonnet]

No auctionator smh

[lucid olive]

yeah never bothered with that one

i look shit up on AH the old fashioned way

[craggy sonnet]

Gotta collect all the *nator stones

[lucid olive]

but baganator is real nice, i need to have my bags auto sort my shit or i go mental

[craggy sonnet]

To assemble the infinity gauntlet

[lucid olive]

the infinator gauntlet

[craggy sonnet]

That one

There are really quite a few options tho. Not looking forward to trying them all out but I probably will

[midnight bough]

Plater vs platynator?

[craggy sonnet]

No way, pepega you are in here too?

[midnight bough]

Im not its your imagination

[craggy sonnet]

Probably gonna be very similar in functionality I would think .. just whatever menu you vibe with more (or import a profile and don't care)

[lucid olive]

yeah basically

platynator much easier menu but less options I think

but i haven't looked at what options actually work in plater on beta

i know most of the scripts are bricked

[midnight bough]

Can both color nameplates still?

[lucid olive]

yeah under the same conditions

think the mobs are colored based on their type tags or if they have a mana bar or not

so like elite/rare/boss etc

and then caster mobs have color options cause of the mana bar indicating they're a caster

at least that's how i've understood it working

but you can't have the "change color of name based on dots" anymore cause that was OP

[midnight bough]

Probably will come down to whoever puts the best jmport profile on wago then if they are basically the same

[tropic pollen]

Tragedy for my old eyes

[fast finch]

Do you guys think the addon thing will get reverted? Eventually or for next expansion

[lofty depot]

Weak mind

[lofty depot]

What addon thing

[fast finch]

Weakauras

[lofty depot]

No

[fast finch]

The CD manager is garbage

[exotic perch]

nope itll slowly get more baseline additions

[lofty depot]

There's addons to add customization to it

[exotic perch]

but they really shoulda not gutted weakauras

and let it exist while they perfected cd manager

[lucid olive]

well

it wasn't blizzards intention to gut weakauras

[fossil hemlock]

WA would still work for a lot of stuff, the devs just don't want to keep it going

[exotic perch]

true that

[fossil hemlock]

Which is a shame, a lot of WAs not actually affected by this that are dying

[lucid olive]

weakaura devs don't see a reason to update the addon anymore since they feel like blizzard's stance on it is fundamentally different to theirs

[lucid olive]

yeah imagine they'll get taken over by addons

but that'll just mean you have more addons now

[fossil hemlock]

Most of them, probably

Yeah

[lucid olive]

like i already have the Ultimate Mouse Cursor one

for the circle around my cursor

[normal pilot]

addons easier to manage anyways for when they launch bnet-now cloud based wow gaming

[lucid olive]

but then there's just small functionality like "auto sell junk", "auto open mail" etc that you will probably need separate addons for as well

[normal pilot]

can't wrangle any peasant making a WA, need each addon dev to register

[exotic perch]

i just hope plumber has all these eventually

that dev is goated

[fast finch]

I can't understand why they made that decision to nuke add-ons/Weakauras

[normal pilot]

it's easiest way to make devs life easier

[lofty depot]

So they could make better fights

[normal pilot]

give ppl less tools means they don't need to spend as much time developing

alternative is to ramp up even more $$ on development and that is not realistic

[fast finch]

Restrict combat was got it, but hud Weakauras, buffs/de buffs tracking

[normal pilot]

it's just easier to make encounters if access to all of it gets restricted

[lofty depot]

Well they were getting the info the same way, so they restricted it and yea now u can't do certain things

[delicate perch]

I feel like elvui used to have these settings, but I stopped using it in bfa

At least the junk one, mail maybe not

[fast finch]

At least we are able to import profiles for the CD manager thing?

Im case im lazy and don't want to mess setting up mine

[lofty depot]

Everyone has to do it so, shrug

[cedar vine]

Is boomy just sub par in M+ on beta or am i really missing something?

[teal sphinx]

Leatrix plus

That addon is goated.

[lofty depot]

Could be both

[delicate perch]

Have you tried pressing buttons? Hope this helps!

[craggy sonnet]

there are qol addon that basically already were doing that or just gonna combine all these into one ..
the leatrix stuff for example
or "Enhance QoL" does like everything

[drifting nova]

havent blizzard already caved on addons

[spice roost]

since theres no sims what the educated guess on sub stats for prepatch

also considering we have no apex

[lofty depot]

mastery good surely

[spice roost]

haste gains value tho right cause no s3 tierset

so do we go back to basicly s2 type stats

[lofty depot]

sure

but crit could be good

[drifting nova]

god I hope not

[spice roost]

why would crit be good?

[drifting nova]

return us to the glory days of haste and crit

[lofty depot]

have u read our apex talents

[spice roost]

we dont have apex in prepatch

[drifting nova]

atp just bring back multistrike

[spice roost]

i said prepatch in my question

[lofty depot]

yea im not regearing for prepatch dawg

[spice roost]

not asking u too

[lofty depot]

yea my fault

[dapper wing]

Best case just run your m+ set

Mastery Haste is probably best shrug

[lofty depot]

imagine hgaving 2 sets

[dapper wing]

Back to DF stating

[lofty depot]

fuggn log off

[spice roost]

ya thats what i was thinking

[dapper wing]

I mean, I've got my set for st and my set for Demon hunters

[craggy sonnet]

nobody knows for sure

all the same

[dapper wing]

Yeah won't really know TILL next week

[craggy sonnet]

is there any relevant haste scaling? no

[pallid bay]

big mastery

huge even

[quiet drift]

+1

[dapper wing]

Like every other season Mastery > Anything else

[normal pilot]

stack int

[dapper wing]

what the fuck

[lofty depot]

seak help

sell all those items

[dapper wing]

Needs more than help

[lofty depot]

they lose like 50% gold cost next week

[pallid bay]

this guy knows whats up

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/loot-gold-put-it-in-the-bag-treasure-gif-17324169

[lucid olive]

get lot of mastery and just drip feed the rest

vers maybe good too since convoke

[lucid olive]

when sim

[normal pilot]

sim when

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-gif-21218154

[dense steeple]

Pass the sim apl

[normal pilot]

just ask copilot once wow AI integration is complete

[sudden pawn]

we could all just wait until the razer ai companion ava comes out

"ava tell me what moonkin sims for, also tell me im making the right choice playing it"

[spice roost]

we could get porom to help lol

[normal pilot]

just get the MSI AI monitor

it'll automatically adjust your damage meter display so you're always on top

[pallid bay]

grok, implement boomkin!

[lofty depot]

grok, put boomkin in a bikini

[lucid olive]

please dont

hey google look up moonkin r34

[pallid bay]

gpt, write the next wowhead boomkin guide

[sudden pawn]

@ grok make a moonkin guide based around kyrian

[drifting nova]

..eww blizz broke my nameplates wtf

[delicate perch]

That’s already happened (real)

[spice roost]

methodsgg guide was ai right

are boomies more tanky than mages in midnight or am i being gaslit

[wicked shuttle]

Gaslit

[meager storm]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01JNCMMSMK7WZ48ACN0YYFGSCR/4x.avif

[spice roost]

there arguement was we have bear without a cd

[drifting nova]

I regret trying to do a nice chill raid, it's like the raid just releaesd for these people

[wicked shuttle]

Congratulations, you’re arguing with an AOTC raider.

[spice roost]

no it was some mod in mage discord

pretty sure they got early ce

[lucid olive]

mages are known ragebaiters

[exotic perch]

just know if someone plays fire mage they are a weenie

and their opinion is invalid

[stone cairn]

what if you play everything

are you all the (insert class-specific stereotypes) at the same time or do you get sorted into your own category

[drifting nova]

you get upgraded from the lowly clown

to the entire circus

[stone cairn]

jack of all trades with wow classes except i'm bad at all of them

[lofty depot]

those same mages dont use half of their 6 defenses

Mages have such good defensives they made a new talent to make a lesser version of ice block but off gcd

[stone cairn]

you need good defensives when you're made of wet paper and dreams.

[lofty depot]

shimmer 2 charges and off gcd

[lucid olive]

shame we never got this for druid before the pruning

like a "press this button to harness your inner ursine instincts to grant you 30% increased hp for 8 seconds"

[maiden pasture]

a mage saying bear form 😭

they choose not to take an immune 😭

[lofty depot]

its ok, we got an extra defensive now

[dense steeple]

During my dimmensiuspulls last night

We had a mage die 3 times in one pull 🙂

Mages arent squishy

[stone cairn]

[lofty depot]

theyre just restarted

[dense steeple]

We didnt get it btw

We lost rwl

First CE ive missed since CN

[potent cargo]

grim

[dense steeple]

||i already bought the mount cause fuck missing it||

[drifting nova]

buying a mount you'l never use

smartge

[potent cargo]

aye if it makes you happy

[drifting nova]

god I wish my crab could fly

would never have to use another mount then

[silent yarrow]

boomy is so fucking cooked on beta

its at the point where ppl know and they literally wont even queue up for keys

like i get its beta, but i can't even play test when no one will invite

[lofty depot]

make a character and name it something like nottettles cuz he gets into keys

[silent yarrow]

honestly based advice

[round field]

i mean

our only rep

is losing to tanks in keys on stream

no wonder u get no invites

[drifting nova]

..beta is dead

is the easier outcome

[potent cargo]

we lost to tanks in sod

[drifting nova]

god I loved shaman tank in sod

[potent cargo]

nah uh

sanctum

not that classic bs

[round field]

not me

i blasted

sounds like skill issue

[potent cargo]

ye until venthyr and incarn are over

then ur back to tank dps

[round field]

i played convoke in keys

[potent cargo]

although that probably says more about the tanks you had in your guild bc ours were r1 dps

limit max tier tanks over here defensives only no damgur

[round field]

says something about ur dps

[potent cargo]

smh

[round field]

if all ur dps are losing to tanks

[potent cargo]

i beat yomamadr

[round field]

mby time to reconsider

[potent cargo]

my dps was immaculate

[round field]

cope

[potent cargo]

our devs always been horse shit

boomy balance like a japanese mf who missed the train

[round field]

[potent cargo]

horrendous but you can still technically call it "balanced"

type shit

[prisma basalt]

Are we still favor haste mastery for pre patch for m+?

[lucid olive]

Yes

[prisma basalt]

Ok ty

[maiden pasture]

Prove it

Link the sims now

Show us the pre patch APL

[dense steeple]

[runic flume]

Can anyone point me to a "Balance Single Target for Dummies in Beta" reference? Basic build, hero talent choice, general rotation/priority/combos? Not a druid player, but want to see how it feels for raid specifically

[round field]

Doesnt exist

Wait till patch is out

[kindred token]

Hi Gamz, what weakauras were you using for Druid Balance in the guide video?

[maiden pasture]

Modified AUI

[plucky valley]

Is balance Druid hard to play in midnight?

It better not be

[lofty depot]

no

[plucky valley]

phew thank you

For a moment there I thought I was about to have a problem

[limber narwhal]

Are boomies getting simplified?

[delicate perch]

Yeah was really complex before

[stone cairn]

I feel like everything is going to be kittybrained to an extent in midnight

[plucky valley]

@ mods this person just said a slur

[stone cairn]

[lofty depot]

what part was complex or hard

think every spec got simplified besides boomkin because we were already at that state

[delicate perch]

The will to log in was quite difficult

[lofty depot]

nah, was fun to log in. Gotta see how high i can crit this week

[delicate perch]

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