balance

[vale pebble]

but they are inherently player baited and boss positioning related

[quiet drift]

I think the fact that

[vale pebble]

which beam goes off where is not random

[quiet drift]

I cant consistently wild charge out of tank buster

[vale pebble]

and which trajectory it takes is not

[quiet drift]

Cuz i might just get clipped by a beam

Makes it random

[royal zenith]

surely the beam has specific variance in offset/trajectory

even if always baited in the same spot?

that's what I remember from explanation weeks ago at least

(during prog)

[quiet drift]

Just dodge beam lol

[vale pebble]

No mate

[quiet drift]

All i remember

[vale pebble]

The order of them is relative to boss positioning

And they just fixate on a range and spew the fire

Thats all there is to it

[royal zenith]

[round field]

nk beams is the worst mechanic in the world

same as tindral

[lone turret]

oh hoped you say dim is easier xD
We killed NK yesterday and after new year we are progressing on dimensius - good we have 2 WL and 2 DKs - hope we can kill him too

[royal zenith]

Issue is that it will take x amount of pulls regardless

To learn the mechanics

[lucid olive]

You don't pull up to the boss knowing the mechanic already?

[red mantle]

Like the others said, NK P1 sucks but Dimensius has more potential problems/is more multifaceted

[lucid olive]

Do your research!!

[royal zenith]

just looking at the timeline for rosterboss...

at least upcoming 2/3 weeks will be shit

[lofty depot]

That'll be interesting come prepatch

[livid jay]

where's the fun in that

[drifting nova]

open the book of vibes

[runic stratus]

do we have any midnight interface impressions already

[lucid olive]

Your UI will look the same, but with less functionality

And more add-ons to replicate the weakauras you had

[kind raptor]

Can just use a UI one and a name plate thing while sure it lacks the freedom it's defintitely so far a lot less resource heavy. Workable not necessarily optimal.

[drifting nova]

you can say it

bad

it's bad

[lucid olive]

Idk about less resource heavy

That depends entirely how many and what weakauras you were using

[drifting nova]

I shudder to think of the royal duo boss without a web wa

[lucid olive]

But need add-ons now for the simple things that used to just be covered by a weakaura, like "auto sell junk", "auto select current expansion only filter in AH", "m+ timer" and "circle around cursor"

[kind raptor]

Auto sell junk i think still works in leatrix never used a WA for that actually.

[kind raptor]

I guess I was it takes a lot less time to load 🙂

[lucid olive]

Think people will be surprised when they pull up to a raid without weakauras and the game still runs like shit

[crude cargo]

pull up to raid with no addons and it might run correctly

[kind raptor]

From what I gather the game isn't well engineered to run well in large raids these days.

[crude cargo]

30man heroic first week usually tells you that much

[onyx island]

Hey guys. Lurker and old time moonkin here and wondering how you are feeling about the spec for midnight. How is the gameplay? And do you think it is an improvement? Cheers

[lofty depot]

Mastery change and eclipse changes are improvements yes.

Gameplay in its most basic form feels the same. You're building with wrath and spending asp as needed but you don't know if it's good or fun until fights get fleshed out

[tame dome]

Is there going to be weirdness with eclipse where you send it straight away even if low on astral power so that you get in on cooldown?

[craggy sonnet]

maybe you send ecl prepull

who knows

oh wait

on pull

stupid bolts

[tame dome]

anyone know why they haven't made it so it's a bigger buff but lasts 5 seconds?

[lucid olive]

Same reason they haven't made the spec a melee dps

Because nobody working on it has thought of a way to do it

[plucky valley]

Maybe the real balance Druid is the feral Druids we made along the way

[cloud citrus]

well my feral druid friends never came out of the bloodtalon bar

[round field]

we beed a mod to kick them out

just to piss em off

[maiden pasture]

[potent cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-cigarettes-khalifa-gif-14617129

[hollow mist]

[calm ibex]

Omg hi lake!

[hollow mist]

hey sweetheart ^_^

[calm ibex]

Hope you’re goooood

[hollow mist]

super good hope ur well too

[calm ibex]

Me too!

[hollow ocean]

Heyo is there a guideline on % stats we need as a balance

[round field]

nope

no such thing as % stats you need

[hollow ocean]

so there is no minimum haste or mastery we should aim for?

😮

[worn sail]

any plans on Druids in Midnight or is it going to die...

i have warlock on a side just incase it wont fit my playstyle anymore

[quiet drift]

The "playstyle" is not changing

Youre still pressing filler into spender

[worn sail]

what about eclipses

they're a button now

[quiet drift]

Ye well you press it

and press filler into spender

same as tiny CA

[forest spear]

Sounds complicated, maybe warlock fits better

[vale pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300221966958989342/1319427528024264845/er.gif

[potent cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274899034917834752/1274899035144196126/glorpNOTED.gif

[hollow ocean]

who knows a good Boomie that has eather or guides or a good raider io thats worth chekking?

[round field]

games pretty dead idk

check back in midnight

[hollow ocean]

Is there a Downside of making a 2h as i dont mythic raid?

[vale pebble]

make a 2h

[hollow ocean]

is it a dps loss?

[vale pebble]

compared to what

[hollow ocean]

Dual wielding

[vale pebble]

there is no difference

[crude cargo]

its slightly behind the raid one hander but its rly minimal

[vale pebble]

that was not the question

[crude cargo]

ye i thought in the best setup

but it was in general

[hollow ocean]

i cant get the dagger unless it pops up in my vault

[crude cargo]

crafted 2h is good

[hollow ocean]

tyvm

i`m new to boomie any channels u guys would recommend me to watch

as in youtube guides etc

[vale pebble]

no relevant youtube channels exist for what you are looking for

[teal minnow]

Only this guide:
https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

Not video format, but if you imagine it is, then it is like watching a YouTube video

[hollow ocean]

tyvm that helps alot

[maiden pasture]

@lucid olive you gotta get back in the content

[cursive mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7ljpozVgsg

hes got this vid!

[lucid olive]

the keeper opener part in that video is outdated

but other than that its fine

[lucid olive]

got other shit to do..

like tft

[hollow mist]

hope ur having a nice holiday season

[maiden pasture]

Tft

[lucid olive]

thank you, you too lake

[lucid olive]

yeah i woulda played regular League but i only brought my laptop home for christmas

so its a week of TFT instead

[maiden pasture]

Laptop can't run league?

[lucid olive]

not playing league on a 15 inch screen laptop

[round field]

its not that bad

grow up

[jade flume]

Just watch some anime instead fuck league

[worldly urchin]

hey guys how do y'all feel about the mastery in midnight beta? to me if it's functional that's nice tho it does seem a bit easy .. and it affects nature and arcane damage yet is called astral invocation

[copper gate]

Anyone have a recent VOD of a mythic NK or Dimmy kill parsing 95+? Within the last two weeks preferably

[lucid olive]

astral damage is both nature and arcane

so naming it astral invocation makes sense since astral dmg is affected by both parts

[royal zenith]

oh yeah?

[lucid olive]

yeah

[lucid olive]

very specific request

can go check Recruitie's vods but idk if he's streamed past few raids

[copper gate]

I’ll check it out, thank you!

[lucid olive]

maybe dsune_ has a vod as well

[hollow ocean]

a question im watching some videos what addon or wa is this does anyone know it tells you feet,frontal,move etc etc anyone got a clue to help me out highly apriciated

[maiden pasture]

That's a dungeon weakaura pack

Best to ask krona himself exactly which one he uses

[hollow ocean]

it can be any that does similar stuff couse i dont use one atm

[hollow ocean]

ty i found one i think ill just try atleast i know what it is now

[maiden pasture]

Causese has a generic dungeon pack many people use

[worldly urchin]

had no idea- thanks

[hollow ocean]

tyvm ,3

❤️

[maiden pasture]

:3

[unreal pilot]

Yo. Does anyone have or have a name of this wa pack? I think its called something with Løu mabye. Not i cannot find it anywhere 🙂

[lofty depot]

Looks like beans and weakauras are dead in 3 week anyway.

Oi Balance pack linked in the compendium >

[round field]

rude

but not wrong

[unreal pilot]

ok mate thanks, But that did not answer my question 🙂 have a nice day 🙂

[lofty depot]

Yea but it looks like shit so u shouldn't use it

Ur welcome

[unreal pilot]

ok boomer. Go and touch grass instead of using all your time on discord to be a dick to people. Take care homie 😗

[round field]

@lofty depot

[lofty depot]

U can't say go touch grass then say take care

[round field]

the sprout got u there

[lofty depot]

Stand on business and be the dick u want to be

[lucid olive]

That's LuckyOne

[unreal pilot]

Thank you very much! ❤️

[lofty depot]

Mr. Toxic can't take someone being toxic

The classic

[lucid olive]

https://wago.io/LuckyoneUI-Druid

[lucid olive]

Ikke noe problem, god jul

[unreal pilot]

see you could learn something 🙂

[unreal pilot]

Tak i lige måde

[lofty depot]

German >

[lucid olive]

Æsj dansk

[lofty depot]

Why would I want to learn how to dish out toxicity and be so weak I couldnt take the toxicity back

Childish mindset

[lucid olive]

Hope you get coal in your Christmas stockings

[lofty depot]

Burns a fire

That's good tech

[unreal pilot]

I could be toxic, But i dont have the needs to be xD

[lofty depot]

Says Mr. Toxic

Change ur name to Mr. Tame

[lucid olive]

Yeah that's the level of technology Americans peak at

Caveman

[lofty depot]

Says the dork living in a 3rd world country

[lucid olive]

Break a leg

Then go bankrupt cause you had to get in an ambulance

[quiet drift]

He cant afford to

[lofty depot]

Why break a leg

Seems counter productive

[lucid olive]

Break a toe then mfer

[lofty depot]

Seems like u just want to cause pain to yourself, should go see a therapist

I pray for u, no bodily harm

[lucid olive]

I can go see a therapist without taking up a mortgage

[lofty depot]

So can i

[round field]

i cant

[lucid olive]

Cap

[quiet drift]

My Ai therapist

[lofty depot]

@ thyme

Therapist cheap as fuck tbh

[lucid olive]

Who needs a therapist, just go trauma dump to your barber

[lofty depot]

Trauma dumping is pushing said trauma off on someone... Gotta bottle it up til u explode

[crude cargo]

if it explodes arent you dumping trauma ?

[quiet drift]

Implode

[round field]

thats what bartenders are for

[craggy sonnet]

damn, you just sold him on luckyone even tho its not even the right one. so easy to please

[lucid olive]

Is it not?

[craggy sonnet]

at least doesnt look like it from the picture

i think

[lucid olive]

The picture is Lucky's pack in cat form

Yeah the picture he sent is in KOTG

The one on wago is EC from season 2

[craggy sonnet]

hm maybe

i guess there are dozens of similar looking ones anyways

[lucid olive]

Lucky is weird with having 7 icons in the primary bar perma

So it looks diff based on talents

[round field]

For having ui in his name his weakauras look pretty bad..

[lucid olive]

It's in the name of the UI, not in his name

[craggy sonnet]

luickyone

the thing that threw me off btw was also the bar texture

its not the default one, thats for sure

maybe not downloaded whatever sharedmedia pack

[lucid olive]

I assume the picture was on a HDR monitor

So it looks brighter than it is

[craggy sonnet]

ye but i think its that 3d plastic looking one

[lucid olive]

Idk

[craggy sonnet]

lucky has very flat textures

afaik

who cares tho

when simc ready

need to know what to talent on prepatch day

[lucid olive]

@normal pilot

[craggy sonnet]

guess i'll go with blizzard recommended and rotation helper

[lucid olive]

Log off

Still 3 months to expansion

[craggy sonnet]

idk if we continue clearing in pre patch 💀

need at least a week for ui

[lofty depot]

Need a week for gamz to make my ui

[lucid olive]

I'm just gonna rip atrocity UI and change stuff

[craggy sonnet]

curious which addons are actually gonna be ready for prepatch

[lucid olive]

Same as now, minus weakauras

Then add a ton of new add-ons to replicate custom tracking spells and buffs with less functionality than weakauras

[craggy sonnet]

no i mean which are gonna be updated/working bug free in time

cause prepatch is also gonna be slightly different than midnight launch api wise

[sudden pawn]

@dense steeple are u alive rn

[dense steeple]

yes

whats up buddy

[signal temple]

Wellness check I guess

[dense steeple]

i was 10 minutes late he doesnt have to reply immediately 🙂

[sudden pawn]

i got myself an insane gift

for christmas

wanna see

i was also late to reply but i was walkin me dogs

[dense steeple]

i do want to see

i love when people get things they want

[sudden pawn]

insane pick up

[dense steeple]

thats HUGE

[sudden pawn]

cost a pretty penny but

worth

[dense steeple]

oh definitely

i wanted that set

but couldnt justify the cost

[sudden pawn]

luckily

i had amazon coupons and stuff

which dropped the price heavily

[dense steeple]

niice

did you see brandon sanderson is doing a special edition release of the series

[sudden pawn]

ya the leatherbound stuff

[lofty depot]

Those books better learn to cook for $700

[sudden pawn]

i filled my entire bookshelf this holiday

its going to be a great time

[dense steeple]

you filled it because theres 15 books xd

[sudden pawn]

no lol theres 5 layers to my book shelf

[lofty depot]

Well he did say shelf and not shelves

[sudden pawn]

so far ive finished mistborn 1-3, now almost done with book 1 of era 2

[dense steeple]

i finally convinced my wife to start book 10

shes been taking a break since 7-9 are slumps

[sudden pawn]

ive only read the eye of the world and thats when i was very young

ill get to them eventually tho

sandersons got me in a headlock

with the cosmere

[dense steeple]

okay so since you havent gone far i will warn you

books 7-9 is 400 pages each of NOTHING happening

theyre truly dreadful

[half sierra]

farm boy is the chosen one that can save the world? how original. stretched out to 17,000 pages!!??? where do I sign up?

[dense steeple]

but the payoff in books 12-14 are INSANELY good and worth the pain

[sudden pawn]

yeah i heard crossroads of twilight especially

was the worst

[dense steeple]

robert jordan did more for the genre than most fantasy authors tbh

like its no contest

[sudden pawn]

ya id say him and tolkien probably shaped what fantasy is now as the big dawgs

u can count george martin but he writes very slow so

[dense steeple]

its really hard to even say tolkien shaped what fantasy is now. like he laid the groundwork and then just fucked off and died and his kid had to be like "yeah that sounds like something my dad wouldve meant"

tolkien was so scattered and it was mostly word of mouth changing stories until he finally got told to write shit down

[sudden pawn]

just but the stories on the paper idiot

[dense steeple]

basically

[half sierra]

I don't have a real opinion. i only read the first one but it was not for me. things were too obvious and the choices the characters kept making to create set pieces or some sort of conflict were so terribly stupid.

[dense steeple]

robert jordans problem is he had less contact with women than grrm and we all know grrm shouldnt be allowed near women

[sudden pawn]

sanderson got me locked down tho with his cosmere, its like an MCU but not terrible dog shit

[dense steeple]

robert jordan is sandersons biggest influence in writing

[sudden pawn]

its MCU as in hes connecting all his worlds in the cosmere into 1

theres even a picture in the leathbound of the eye of the world

[dense steeple]

yeah ive read some of it and bransan is my wifes favorite

[sudden pawn]

that shows a cosmere book

in the background

meaning hes going for an ultimate gambit, connecting stormlight, mistborn, the standalones and wheel of time

basically anything he writes cosmere related, instant buy

its like crack to me

[dense steeple]

i'd love to see him do it but idk how well received it would be

[sudden pawn]

well he has the shard theory going for him where an overarching god and or entity is placing these shards between his worlds

for travel

i think in the future of mistborn, you are going to see stormlight characters meeting mistborn ones crazy shit

and he has his world hopper, hoid

hoid is easily my favorite character in fantasy at the moment, a world hopper connecting stories together and hes OP

[dense steeple]

i havent read enough to know enough about hoid to have an interest in him but ive heard much

my cosmere is pretty limited as i dont like reading

[drifting nova]

everyone knows it was blizzard

mr fantasy himself

john blizzard

[jade flume]

Imagine reading in 2025

When u can just watch a movie or sth thats actually fun...

[potent cargo]

or 3 hours of 10 second reels

[dense steeple]

because when amazon finally decides to pick up your favorite series

they fuck it up for 2 seasons, make the 3rd season fantastic and enjoyable, and then cancel it because "its not making enough money"

||it was the best franchise amazon has ever produced btw||

[jade flume]

I dont read so luckily i cant relate

[true viper]

is ascendance better than duskthread on amp bosses

[sudden pawn]

yes

idk why i said yes i actually dont know

im sorry

[true viper]

its ok

i be doing that too 💔

[sudden pawn]

[dense steeple]

dreamgrove.gg might know

[pallid bay]

top 10 useless optimizations

[potent cargo]

mfs will ask about what gems and enchants to use but their opener will look like they play on 450ms

and they have 20% cancelled casts

[dense steeple]

and at the first big mechanic of the fight they slam 8 sunfires

because "i had to move"

[gaunt ruin]

Hi! I’m a returning player and I saw that on January 20 season 3 will end. I like to push keys and do raid. If the season ends, what content can I do until midnight release?

[exotic perch]

all the same content it just wont give rewards

the season ones that is

[lofty depot]

Log on to beta and go do some m+ there

[meager storm]

after some limit testing, i may be a demacia and piltover enjoyer

[gaunt ruin]

I will be able to increase mythic rating even if the season will end?

[lofty depot]

If the season ends.... No

[delicate perch]

[dapper wing]

On the 20th are we just getting our tier set remade or is it the full rework coming in? (Talents, Mastery, eclipse changes)

[meager storm]

everything

[merry ibex]

Soooooon

[lofty depot]

Well prepatch is all the mod ight changes, and then they're basically taking away a lot of the tier sets that do things

[dapper wing]

Yeah, just changing all tier sets to +% damage/healing

Just didn't remember if we were getting the full midnight changes or not

[round field]

wait theyre nuking tier sets in prepatch too?

why

[craggy sonnet]

Because some/most of them make no sense with the new talent trees, probably

[round field]

who cares

happened in the past aswell

just leave it

dont fun detected prepatch of all things...

[wild dune]

some are straight up duplicates.

[delicate perch]

like night fae cov + convoke talent that they left in

[round field]

and pulsar talent and pulsar legendary

and orbital

that was banger

[craggy sonnet]

What if the ability is not even in the game anymore?

[round field]

hooly

[craggy sonnet]

Surely that's a thing on a spec

[round field]

unlucky

pick better spec ig

[delicate perch]

ya gg

don't be a bozo

[hollow mist]

don't be a bozo

[quiet drift]

What why

The prepatch jank is all the fun

[delicate perch]

+% damage

[maiden pasture]

Think a decent number of them literally won't work cause of the ability pruning IIRC

[crude cargo]

• they added some of the tierset as hero talents no?

[hollow ocean]

hello a question how do i sim my boomie what settings do i put it on

[delicate perch]

settings that match what you would like to test

[lucid olive]

Patchwerk

[hollow ocean]

it seems to be strange on boomie no?

[quiet drift]

Dont understand why not just give the aura buff to those who it wont work on

I wanted my double dryad

[lucid olive]

No

[hollow ocean]

i dont get why my ara kara trinket sims higher then astral antena :S and then my araz trinket

[lucid olive]

Read this part of the Compendium guide linked in pins and channel description

[lucid olive]

Link the sim and not a picture

Can't see what you did from a picture

[hollow ocean]

sorry im quite new to this https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dryfsjgMGDNx3SkiS6rkHc

[maiden pasture]

i assume theres also a bunch of like technical shit with spell IDs changing and whatnot, easier to give some junior dev a copy and paste task ig

[lucid olive]

you're simming EC, Ritual Forge isn't very good for EC compared to passive trinkets

you're also low ilvl so Sacbrood will be better since it has a dmg proc

and dmg proc trinkets usually scale worse but perform better at lower ilvls

[hollow ocean]

so i should use Antenna and Ara kara as stated?

[lucid olive]

Sure

It also doesn't matter much cause your ilvl is low

I wouldn't really worry much about sims until you're like 720+ ilvl

[hollow ocean]

ye issue is i got the gold upgrade thigns saved up so i can upgrade after vault

[hollow ocean]

so i should take the haste mastery leggs it says on simc

Sad the voidglass is hero =/

[hollow ocean]

just comfirming i dont wanna make a mistake here by not taking something else this is first time i do this

[delicate perch]

you are 709ilvl man

[hollow ocean]

ye but vault is 1nce a week i got 160 crest aswell

[delicate perch]

PLEASE tell me this is a tooltip error...

please 😟

[lucid olive]

its not

thats the agi 2 hander

[hollow ocean]

its not

[delicate perch]

[hollow ocean]

why

[delicate perch]

there is no int on that weapon bruv

int good

[lucid olive]

well balance does not use agility innit

but you can be a big strong bear if you want

[delicate perch]

mine does

[hollow ocean]

damn i didnt notice im so stupid

i was a feral first

thats why i got that but i can fix that

[delicate perch]

luckily it's week 5000 so you have lots of sparks

[hollow ocean]

Should i take the dagger then?

[delicate perch]

no just craft a new 2h

[hollow ocean]

and take the myhtic track pants

[lucid olive]

definitely

[hollow ocean]

and then ara kara sackbrood man i feel so stupid

[lucid olive]

you can always catalyze the legs to tier as well

[delicate perch]

idk what io you're at but if you aren't raiding you can dinars a sacbrood

[lucid olive]

you should remember to upgrade items in the sim when you're comparing them

you selected the neck here to compare it to the other one but you didn't add the 2nd socket

[hollow ocean]

thank you thats what i mean ive never done this im really trying here im so apriciative you guys are so nice to help

thank you for noticing the halberd aswell

[lucid olive]

here as well should have licked the + sign to upgrade the 2 other chest pieces to 704

[hollow ocean]

let me do it again

[delicate perch]

it obviously can skyrocket iterations but this button is handy to skip having to do it to each item

[hollow ocean]

okok i tryd to fill it in as correct as possible

its in que now =/

basicly it says the same swap to ara kara and take leggs

[delicate perch]

ya the advice was more for future sims, your choices all kinda suck but legs are fine

[hollow ocean]

thank you for noticing the int btw i would have never looked at it if you wouldnt have told me

[craggy sonnet]

simming this without a proper weapon is going to skew results massively

you can just add one manually to sim with

[hollow ocean]

ye it did

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ckUbTXJTQCtjwCQjNsqDZ5

i made it had to anyway

now it says take the other leggs the crit mastery ones

[craggy sonnet]

do not do 40s sims

[hollow ocean]

5 mins?

[craggy sonnet]

unless you are looking very specifically for something

ye can do 5mins

1t5min is the standard

[hollow ocean]

im making notes here this is good to know

[craggy sonnet]

also change your simc version to latest

not gonna matter now

but while stuff is still changing at the start of a season

and when simming astral antenna it does matter what you set its "miss chance" at

in m+ something like 10-15% is probably fine

[hollow ocean]

okok good to know

thank you aswell im in que again xDD

[craggy sonnet]

this is a ST enchant btw

and its not even good there with max ilvl gear now

should look at the mastery or haste proc ones

[hollow ocean]

do you know which 1 i took the one from wowhead

[craggy sonnet]

if you raid at all, probably mastery

[hollow ocean]

i dont no guild that is raiding atm

[craggy sonnet]

then you can just select both and let the sim decide i guess

this is generally the more up-to-date resource for balance btw
https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

and more in-depth

[hollow ocean]

ty ill just sim it see what comes out best

[hollow ocean]

also out of the cheat i think Prio= priority damage target on the m+ talent tree?

[craggy sonnet]

yes

[hollow ocean]

tyty

[hollow ocean]

authority seems to sim better atm

[craggy sonnet]

because you are a)not max gear and b) simming ST but plan to play m+

[hollow ocean]

so how do i change it

[craggy sonnet]

you either just trust me to take one of the secondary stat ones .. or start simming a dungeonroute which is laid out in the FAQ of the dreamgrove guide, see what you were linked before

[hollow ocean]

are you a geared balance so i can chek ur raider io so i can have a guideline or anyones

[craggy sonnet]

im not logged out in m+ gear

havent done a dungeon in a while now .. lol. m+ season is kinda dead

while im not a particular fan of just blindly following data aggregation, you can look at this with a grain of salt

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/balance/druid/mythic-plus/overview/10/all-dungeons/this-week#stats

to get maybe a bit better idea

[hollow ocean]

thnk you thats great i wont blindly followo but then i atleast got somewhat a direction as you guys are very helpfull ill just ask if im not sure

[hollow ocean]

thank you so much ❤️

[lofty depot]

@ thyme

[craggy sonnet]

Get a grip

[lofty depot]

grip these

[lofty depot]

side note for later, your enchants and gems arent being simmed for changes

[hollow ocean]

thank you

[lucid olive]

Merry gripmas

[restive wadi]

Happy holidays 🙂

[potent cargo]

merry crimmis ppl

[lavish hawk]

merry Christmas to you too and all in the Dreamgrove

[hollow mist]

merry Christmas to you too darktide

[red mantle]

Merry Christmas gang

[undone drum]

Merry Christmas to the homies (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)

[jade flume]

Merry chrysler

[tacit oriole]

Merry Birbmas

[winged hare]

Merry Christmas 🎁⛄⛄

[teal sphinx]

Merry Christmas yall

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-cotr-turtle-gif-24251592

[potent cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300221966958989342/1319427528024264845/er.gif

[hollow mist]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-cotr-turtle-gif-24251592

[delicate perch]

It’s literally Boxing Day how slow is America

[mighty mica]

considering we don't have boxing day

[lucid olive]

what about unboxing day

[mighty mica]

unbox 2 presents everyday when i open my eyes in the morning

[lucid olive]

better than unboxing 2 pasts

damn im a hoot and a half tonight

[delicate perch]

that checks out actually

lagging and no fun holidays

[mighty mica]

canada does however, so only lagging

[lucid olive]

i thought the only special thing with boxing day was that Premier League plays every team on the same day

[delicate perch]

there's usually sales on that's about it

any good centre is packed full of idiots though so very dangerous times to be outside

[mighty mica]

sounds so fun

[lucid olive]

is it the day you box up the presents you dont want and go return them

[delicate perch]

I think it's a british thing tbh we just stole it and made it another holiday

probs some cricket thing too knowing us

[lucid olive]

well

your entire country was a british thing you stole and made another country

[delicate perch]

made it better though right?

[lucid olive]

polish a turd

[delicate perch]

[mighty mica]

that's why canada has it and the us doesn't

[delicate perch]

canada sounds way more fun

we love a pointless public holiday

[mighty mica]

no argument there

[lucid olive]

thats why i love may over here

[lofty depot]

"the great white north where everybody is bored to death"

[lucid olive]

so many red days

weed is legal in canada i dont think theyre bored

@eager raft seems pretty un-bored if you ask me

[lofty depot]

He's giga bored

He plays BM hunter

[eager raft]

I am playing dk next tier by the looks of it

[lucid olive]

nerd

[mighty mica]

[lucid olive]

literally a @cursive mirage copycat

respectable? more like replicable

[eager raft]

no I am a iqni copycat

I’m not 100% sure what I’m playing but I know that our 2 dk players are wanting to switch to ranged, so it’ll likely be something melee

Will depend on who our devourer player ends up being

[lucid olive]

expansion 3 months out btw

[eager raft]

Yeah but I’m learning a new role so I wanna prep before hand on beta as much as I can

[lucid olive]

melee is so easy

every tier i hear melee player say "this raid is so unfriendly to melee!!"

then i log my warrior or DH and just payphone every fight

[lofty depot]

It's melee, it's giga ez and DK uses 2 abilities to dodge 90% of the ones they have to deal with

Not playing boomkin after they finally reworked 2 pain points is crazy tho

[eager raft]

Yea melee is a vibe for sure

I’m just tryna play whatever is most helpful for my guild

[lofty depot]

Maybe someone else should be helpful so u can have fun

[lucid olive]

i heard moonkin is super helpful

[lofty depot]

Expert

Would never lie

[eager raft]

I will have fun regardless

[lucid olive]

every fight has an add phase

we got new talent to make starfall better on sporadic add spawns

surely we balast big pimpin

[lofty depot]

Big pimpin

[eager raft]

I will definitely be playing some amount of bamkin

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/pimp-eddie-griffin-katt-williams-gif-9340960220061873634

[eager raft]

As long as I can avoid ever having to spec Elunes chosen

[lucid olive]

thats so real

elunes chosen was fun for like

one season

[lofty depot]

EC with weaver might be a vibe

[lucid olive]

yeah what EC needs is surely something to avoid spending the obscene amount of AP you generate

and proc less Starsurge casts from the new hero talent

[eager raft]

On beta there is nothing about ec that is a vibe

It is genuinely a slow motion spec

[lucid olive]

i played it on the 3 target paladin boss in testing

its just exactly the same as live

[eager raft]

yeah just with start of expac haste values vs end of expac really

is what makes it so slow

[lucid olive]

theres some bug that made Elunes Challenge proc above 40AP but i couldnt find out what made it happen

[eager raft]

To me

I like kotg with new eclipse a lot though

[lucid olive]

yeah i like it too

[lofty depot]

I had an idea it was 40% and not 40 asp

But never tested

[lucid olive]

thats not it

cause you have 100AP max as EC

and it procced on like

70AP

xd

[lofty depot]

Hm

Reverse 40asp

[lucid olive]

its just very inconsistent

happened in raid testing a few times

then i spent like 40 min on a dummy after and had it happen like 3-4 times but no clear reason what causes it

not that it matters cause that talent is big stinky anyway

just gonna put eclipse,if=buff.elunes_challenge.up top of the APL so it will always sim bad

[lofty depot]

then clanker gonna try and rewrite it

[brave gulch]

hello chat

[cursive mirage]

Sup

Oh @eager raft trying to be like me huh? Wow

[eager raft]

you dk?!?

[lucid olive]

Yeah he's chief traitor

[delicate perch]

does that mean @teal sphinx back on moonkin

[lofty depot]

both didnt play moonkin this tier

and then made rony play rdruid instead of moonkin

pretty toxic

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/no-absolutely-not-gif-13012986

[delicate perch]

welcome back buddy

[drifting nova]

[uncut roost]

You'd be great on moonkin though :x

[round field]

anyone can be great on moonkin if they were born with at least 1 functioning hand

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-agents-know-dont-gif-18536773

@delicate perch

[loud kettle]

Anyone can be great on moonkin if they were born with [insert rare thing here.]

[pallid bay]

which one were you born without? right or left

[loud kettle]

Answer is yes I fear

[pallid bay]

both, makes perfect sense

[round field]

both

[lucid olive]

must be why you play DK

[uncut roost]

I believe in you, resto shaman is wack

[round field]

I dont play dk tho

[teal sphinx]

Resto shaman??? Gross. Healers aren't real people

[dense steeple]

[potent cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-caminhão-drift-epic-euro-truck-gif-16937724

[dense steeple]

Me fr

[potent cargo]

idk where that discord link goes

can't be held responsible

[lofty depot]

where on i80

u could stop by

[dense steeple]

Im going all the way across the country bro

[lofty depot]

THAT DOESNT TELL ME WHERE

ai help me, ur too far away :/

ur all the way across the country already

[dense steeple]

Im currently in Ohio, going to CO.

[lofty depot]

ur gonna go right by my house

[dense steeple]

Oh shit

My houseis also literally right off i80

[potent cargo]

you know what you gotta do som

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-bird-gif-25066505

[dense steeple]

Gotta go to his house and kiss him on the mouth

[potent cargo]

by any means necessary

[loud kettle]

i am nowhere near i80

[teal sphinx]

Yikes. Good luck on i80

That road is a fucking nightmare

[lofty depot]

ur gonna drive like quiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee literally right by my house

like ull be within 100ft of me

👀

i80 isnt dangerous what

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/god-is-watching-help-us-lord-sign-of-the-cross-praying-gif-17807778

[dense steeple]

My house is also literally 100ft off i80 LMAO

[teal sphinx]

Where u at

[lofty depot]

omaha, nebraska silly

[teal sphinx]

I refuse to drive it

[dense steeple]

Does it cost money in Nebraska

[lofty depot]

hes gonna drive thru a rather not cool part called council bluffs iowa

do not stop there

theres meth heads and crankers there

[lofty depot]

does what

[dense steeple]

I80

[lofty depot]

no

[dense steeple]

Fuckin scam ass ohio

[lofty depot]

theres a toll in colorado

[dense steeple]

I80 is toll all the way across ohio

[lofty depot]

yea ohio is a fake place that costs money for some reason

silly state

[dense steeple]

Cleveland lowkey best place to live in Ohio

[lofty depot]

ur not even in the worst part of ur drive yet

u got iowa and nebraska

both being 7+ hours across lol

[dense steeple]

We just STARTED brother

[lofty depot]

u going all night or

[dense steeple]

Yeah

[potent cargo]

thats a long ahh drive

jesus

[lofty depot]

denver or

far drive

[dense steeple]

Yes

[potent cargo]

monster and some zyns angle

[dense steeple]

Wife will take over in 5 hours

Then i sleep

[lofty depot]

r u in columbus yet

[dense steeple]

Brother doesnt know the anatomy of ohio lmao

[lofty depot]

idk where i80 is in ohio

fake ass state

cleveland?

[dense steeple]

2 hours north of columbus

Cleveland is where we started from

[lofty depot]

ok so ur like 11 hours from me 🙂

see u for breakfast in nebraska

theres a mcdonalds right next door

[dense steeple]

Sick

What exit

[lofty depot]

and a gas station

uhhh

i dm u so people dont know where i live

[dense steeple]

Xd

[lofty depot]

[dense steeple]

I will deadass convince my wife to stop for gas there if you meet up

[lofty depot]

TYPE SHIT

[dense steeple]

You can meet my puppy

[lofty depot]

A PUPPER

[potent cargo]

bitchville

[lofty depot]

i would like to live and not be swatted thank u

[teal sphinx]

Never said it was dangerous. Its just full of semis that dont know how to drive

[lofty depot]

just dont drive in the slow lane silly goose

[teal sphinx]

I would rather drive north and through Montana and back down to wherever then drive i80. Or drive south and through i70

Truckers drive in both lanes trying to pass each other one going 70 the other 72

[loud kettle]

weak

[lofty depot]

i terrorize people on here, the end result would not be pretty

[loud kettle]

a shame there is likely no food deliveries to be gained from such an exchange

[potent cargo]

none pizza left beef

inc

[lofty depot]

if u want to send me food u can dm me 🙂

and i will weigh the problem

[loud kettle]

nah its ok. im the one wanting a food delivery here

[lofty depot]

need to deliver soma some food

oo ima give him a present

cuz im a nice guy

[loud kettle]

that is very kind of u

[dense steeple]

Arctic is goated

Il be sure to snap a Pic and then not share it for posterity

[plain aurora]

Does Star Cascade work with Hail of Stars/Starweaver?

[lofty depot]

star cascade is from casting wrath/starfire

r u asking if the free surge would

1. give a free starfall proc from starweaver (no)
2. add 3s to solstice (no)

[plain aurora]

that is what im asking

thank you!

[lofty depot]

moonshineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[glossy jungle]

[lucid olive]

It gives 1s to solstice

Like Convoke surges do

[lofty depot]

Well fricc

Well technically, was correct cuz it doesn't give 3s.....

[lofty depot]

Somas pupper is so cute

[quiet drift]

w'

[dense steeple]

I had to leave the lsu cap in it so you could have more ammo

[drifting nova]

sounds like a budget nos

[lucid olive]

Nah uncensor that shit

[drifting nova]

[lofty depot]

He cropped that in the car, big artist

I told him he could send it uncropped, he thinks I'm ugly. Smh

[lucid olive]

Arctic face reveal would be my Christmas present

[dense steeple]

Call me santa

[lofty depot]

lol i just realized blud was at a gas station for 45 minutes

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

[dense steeple]

The long pit stop bro

[lucid olive]

Alright put the censor back on

Jesus Christ

[lofty depot]

and the doggo didnt go to the bathroom

[lofty depot]

thats toxic

[dense steeple]

He peed a little bit

[dense steeple]

[lofty depot]

gamz generational hater

hate people on their come up

[lucid olive]

It is what it is

[sudden pawn]

Ugly lol

[lucid olive]

Toxic

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hope-i-hope-you-i-hope-you-explode-hope-you-explode-you-explode-gif-24719714

[dense steeple]

This dog is so done with this car ride lmao

[brave gulch]

sup gamz

[maiden pasture]

😭 bro

[lucid olive]

Wrong channel

[brave gulch]

you cant say that every time....

I'm kind of a moonkin prodigy

[potent cargo]

did u guys fuck

arctic is defs a lot lizard

(go tigers)

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bbAoy.gif

[dense steeple]

3 times we were there for 45 minutes

[uncut roost]

What did you guys do for the other 42 minutes?

[dense steeple]

Asked the puppy to poop

[lofty depot]

Type shit

LSU baseball btw >

[lofty depot]

Talk about raid, show him the moonshine, wife left it at the pump when she moved the car, uhhh went on a walk around the gas station

[loud kettle]

Jeaux Burreaux

[lofty depot]

It's Geaux

[loud kettle]

My bad

[lofty depot]

Kek unless u were saying Joe which then I take it back

[loud kettle]

I was definitely saying Joe

[lofty depot]

Oh, my fault

[loud kettle]

geoff vs Jeff who knows

[lofty depot]

Also, glyph knows lot lizards.... That means he needs to come to Omaha for CWS along with Folty

[lofty depot]

Trip go ok thru the corn fields

See the funny barn between Omaha and Lincoln

[potent cargo]

would be lit asf

would get so fkn drunk

[lofty depot]

First weekend is pretty fire

Especially when teams like LSU, and Arkansas come. If u get a series we're like Morehead State and fuggn UCLA negative fans, it's big sad

[potent cargo]

would love to go to a game at death valley ngl

real grudge match shit

[lofty depot]

Real

[potent cargo]

100k drunk lsu fans poppin off

[lofty depot]

I mean the LSU Arkansas game on Saturday was insane

Tickets were like $300

[potent cargo]

ye thats wild

[dense steeple]

Which funny barn

We made it safe to final destination

[delicate perch]

holy fuck thats brutal

[vital hound]

paper level

[delicate perch]

I read from bottom up and I was like how is that toxi.. oh

[potent cargo]

paper has to be in here on a burner

i miss him

[delicate perch]

god I hope so

[delicate perch]

why is there 2 arctic photos and 0 dog photos

dreamgrove sucks

[lucid olive]

Real

Get that dog on

[lucid olive]

Watch me

[lofty depot]

The one that says in big letters trump

[lofty depot]

That's what I'm saying

[dense steeple]

Yeaaa.....

[lofty depot]

silly farmers

[lofty depot]

doggo doing the

[wild dune]

not how i pictured arctic

[lucid olive]

how did you picture him

pull up paint

draw us a picture

[wild dune]

i have the ms paint skills of a toddler

[lucid olive]

thats okay

[dense steeple]

Probably will be a good recreation

[dense steeple]

Shiba known to be sassy fucks

[lofty depot]

What am I pictured as

I'm just a good ole boy

[lucid olive]

🧢

[violet fern]

hello my fellow chmikens how do u do?

im just here to cast some moonfires as a chmiken

[sudden flame]

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-21437085

[daring gull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-only-hope-hope-only-sweet-sweet-relief-gif-14029580392642845532

[round field]

@dense steeple please never post arctic pictures again

[potent cargo]

[delicate perch]

26 YEAR OLD WORLD OF WARCRAFT PRO LEAGUE GAMER

[potent cargo]

S M O K E D W E E D W I T H R O G E R F E D E R E R

[delicate perch]

fuck I need to watch the discord call vid again

still have robos rank 1 monk oce vid bookmarked

[potent cargo]

i know exactly where I was was listening to that call

imprinted in my memory

[smoky remnant]

hey
anyone has an unpdated theorycrafting buildof midnight kotg Single target?

[lucid olive]

CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMaGjZG4BMLMzMDGzYGzsNWmxM2GLzYMmhFMMADwy2YBTzMLjAAAAsZmZmZwmhxYGAYmBAzMAA

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/druid/balance/keeper-of-the-grove/DASEAQFBEkVVVZEQkRFIEBBNVVQVQVZGSklERCAUFFVVVUCAQ

[smoky remnant]

oh

thats a spicy one

tx gamz

[delicate perch]

spicy = weaver

login

[fleet gulch]

Hello chickens, how does the new eclipse work? Can EC completely ignore wrath now that it’s no longer the activator?

[lucid olive]

yes

[scarlet tapir]

@pallid bay do u have a UI code i can test in beta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814710242255437835/1408915656258355250/throatgoat2.gif

[dense steeple]

Yall are toxic

[pallid bay]

The game is dead lil bro, go play something else

[scarlet tapir]

i am

studying and shit

but i need to go hit the dummies in about a month

hekili wont save me now

[woven flint]

1 button rotation will

[pallid bay]

i cant help

[hollow mist]

time to study the blade buddy

[nova prawn]

is there a way to track the duration left on your current eclipse using the cooldown manager thing?

[lucid olive]

yes

track the buff

[nova prawn]

i do that but it only glows and doesnt show a number

[lucid olive]

then you did it wrong

i don't have access to a PC with WoW so i can't really show you how

but there are 2 tabs in the cooldown manager

one is for spells and one is for buffs

open the buff one and move solar and lunar eclipse to the top part should make them track

if it doesnt work then maybe you didnt enable it in edit mode or something

[nova prawn]

Thanks! had the bars set to hidden

[lucid olive]

yeah that checks out

i wouldnt track it with bars though

buff bars suck

[nova prawn]

yeah wish there was just a little icon with a ticking number but this will do

[lucid olive]

if you drag it from the buff bar section to the section above it

should track as just an icon

[nova prawn]

oh thats awesome!

[lucid olive]

for reference, this was my UI during raid testing

[nova prawn]

how do you get it to show sunfire and moonfire with duration?

[lucid olive]

it should default to it?

[nova prawn]

i see it only under spells and it just shows that i can cast it, not that it is currently active

[lucid olive]

yeah idk what you're looking at

but moving sunfire and moonfire up in the top section in the cooldown manager should just work

unless you're talking about the live game and not Midnight beta

[nova prawn]

Live yeah

[lucid olive]

for the live game i would just scrap CDM and get a weakaura pack

live game cdm sucks

[drifting nova]

but weakaura bad

[maiden pasture]

clean

[iron horizon]

What are you using for the icons above/below your player frame?

[lucid olive]

action bars

[iron horizon]

Heh, fair

[lucid olive]

yeah ideally i would have liked the icons below the player frame to only show when ability is on CD

[thick harness]

Hello Druish Spell Slingers! I’m messing around on Beta with Balance, Lunar Guardian, and am I crazy, or dose it just not use Wrath? Are you all Starfire all the time?

[lucid olive]

yes

[dense steeple]

@lofty depot both the ciders are good btw. The lack of carbonation wasnt expected but they tastegreat

[lofty depot]

W

[vital hound]

surely there's a weakaura for that

[thick harness]

Dayum, wow, lol! Do you know which hero spec is turning out better, that or keeper?

[lucid olive]

no way to know

logic would suggest keeper for raid and ec for m+ since thats been the case for the existence of hero talents

[thick harness]

Gotcha! Well that’s a good thought. I’m trying to maybe decide in case I need to switch up for Midnight

[lucid olive]

but there arent sims available yet so theres really no way to know for sure without guessing

[thick harness]

Ok, I see…Well thank you still, much appreciated

[lucid olive]

should read the forum feedback post linked in the pins

[thick harness]

Oh! I’ll check that too, thanks!

[limber lance]

Question, astral damage is increased by anything that increases nature OR arcane damage?

so like eclipses, the one talent that increases crit etc

[exotic perch]

Correct

[ember oxide]

Guys, when I press incarn my dps goes down instead of up. Is this normal?

[hollow mist]

[ember oxide]

Guys I think boomie needs to be nerfed

This spec is so easy and op

[royal zenith]

for sure someone will care about your shitposting in these times of good food and new years!!

[ember oxide]

Shitposting??

When

[royal zenith]

gamz when you wake up

what are we getting in pre-patch

[delicate perch]

that's bait

[ember oxide]

12.0 i think!

Its the midnight prepatch that we’re getting

[delicate perch]

checks out

prepatch = prepatch

[potent cargo]

who is this mental patient

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-monkey-banana-eating-sad-gif-6230069

[ember oxide]

I like to refer to myself as highly intelligent individual

@pallid bay confirm?

[pallid bay]

can partly confirm that statement

[royal zenith]

which part?

[hollow mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230448934980161612/1290964633649283092/speed.gif

[pallid bay]

yes

[ember oxide]

I would nevevr be mean to you my little uwu kitten come 'er and I'll give yer a kiss

[lucid olive]

Depression

[royal zenith]

Good thing I already have that one on my arsenal

[quiet drift]

Depression^2

[jade flume]

Imagine having spare time to be depressing smh my h

[quiet drift]

Real gamers multi task

Be depressed while doing stuff

[jade flume]

Im already failing at 1 thing cant be adding more

[lucid olive]

How does failing at the thing make you feel

If the answer is depressed then gj you're multi tasking

[jade flume]

Ive been at it for almost 30 years so no feeling in particular

[last hornet]

What do we think of midnight changes on eclipses ?

[lucid olive]

Good change

What do you think about it

[viscid ermine]

for me, this cooldown is high a bit

[round field]

how does it work

is it still reversed

or did they decide to be smart for once

[lucid olive]

Wdym

You press Wrath to activate Solar and Starfire to activate Lunar

[round field]

like

perfect

would be funny

[lucid olive]

But

[round field]

if they kept

starfire to enter solar

but

[lucid olive]

If you die it resets to Solar

[round field]

oh it defaults to solar

[lucid olive]

Even if you have Lunar Calling

[round field]

fair

wait what

LMAO

[lucid olive]

Lunar Calling just disables the "Wrath changes it to Solar" part

[round field]

yea that makes sense

[lucid olive]

But if you die in a key or whatever you need to Starfire first before entering Lunar

They might have fixed it by now, but it was still bugged last raid test I did

[last hornet]

So is it "wrath for solar" ? Or is it a talent ?

[crude cargo]

its going to be weird not casting any starfire in ST

[last hornet]

It's going to be perfect

[lucid olive]

I wonder what the target count breakpoint is gonna be for Keeper

[lofty depot]

3 surely

[lucid olive]

My best guess it's like 4+ targets you'd go Lunar but who knows

Solar gets better cause it doesn't have the 2 Starfire casts weighing it down

Part of the reason why Lunar was equal on some low targets was how much quicker it was to enter

[round field]

Not as weird as u shaco player

[crude cargo]

havent locked the char in 3years 🥀

[lucid olive]

Iqni wasn't here when PinkWard came in and asked a question last year

The shaco terrorist himself

[crude cargo]

The terrorist himself

[drifting nova]

only allowed shaco