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maiden pasture
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got my 2nd penta ever today WICKED

dense steeple
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i achieved housing decor for warrior hidden appearance with rng quest pog

wheat haven
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How's balance looking in midnight?

lofty depot
wheat haven
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Is it fun to play? How is damage(average, low, high)?

meager storm
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fun is subjective, damage looks decent in raid at least

lofty depot
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also 2 months away from expac, tuning is still work in progess and even then u dont really know how well a class will perform until raid is even released

royal zenith
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are we back yet

delicate perch
stone ledge
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2 more months of farm Despair

golden shuttle
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Farming those housing stuff FOR GAWLD !

plucky valley
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Haha ! Me too < 3 xoxo πŸ•ŠοΈβ˜€οΈπŸ’«βœ¨πŸ’œπŸ₯°πŸ’ƒπŸ’…πŸ’‹πŸ«‚

grave cargo
golden shuttle
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Wood Wood MORE WOOD

livid jay
lucid olive
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log in tft

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best set ever

drifting nova
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Rv update dropped login

dire osprey
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its my 1st season and its so good

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almost pulled off the asol 9 the other day Sadge

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1 off and the fucker ff'd

meager storm
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Yordle gang

lucid olive
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yordle good tempo trait but horrible lategame

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good for hitting 9 and transitioning entire board

round field
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Tft yuck

dire osprey
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fuck yordlers

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always turn into azir cringers

meager storm
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I had a run that the first augment I got was the ur team gains hp per roll or whatever

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With yordle

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Holy cinema

dire osprey
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i am a void kinda guy

meager storm
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I like noxus the most

dire osprey
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triple item void augmented 2 star baron

meager storm
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Briar my beloved

lucid olive
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i don't like void but that's because the last time Void was a trait it was super fun

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and this one doesnt live up

dire osprey
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i admit early game is fkin trash unless u highroll a belveth or something dumb

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but when u unlock kaisa game insta changes and u start rolling kids over

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then when u hit 10 u basically insta win

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even 1 star baron with 3 items usually rolls fast 9s

lucid olive
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it was a summoning trait then

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think it was like on 3 void you summoned voidgrubs, on 5 you summoned herald and on 8 you summoned baron

dire osprey
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o

lucid olive
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cho'gath was a 1-cost with his R from regular League

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so you got cho'gath 2star early and then frontlined him so he ate a bunch of champs and infinitely stacked HP

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kinda like how Sion is from this set

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nothing like seeing 15k hp chogath with a baron nashor behind him..

dire osprey
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loool

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but sion tho

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what is that item called again

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thats buffs u after 22 sec

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some fucker played bruiser bard and 3 starred his sion super early

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and he fucking rolled that item

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guy was immortal already and if he didnt kill u after 22 sec his sion got like 30k hp

lucid olive
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talisman

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put talisman on a tank and then lock him in a corner behind 3 ranged characters

dire osprey
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yea..

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ive been playing alot of draven reroll

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3 star draven, gp, naut

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kinda like it

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its like reliable top 4 but u lose to fast 9s

lucid olive
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yeah

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there's a couple good reroll comps but most of them get nuked by fast 9 comps

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the Ashe-Trynda reroll seems pretty good though, took a few games from stacked boards in the TFT Open thing

dire osprey
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been seeing alot of those

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and bards

lucid olive
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Bard is good too

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good for transitioning too

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solid earlygame, then lose streak midgame and collect buncha free rerolls then go 9 and send it

fiery abyss
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did you find a definitive answer for this?

delicate perch
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Did vinter not respond like 5 messages later?

fiery abyss
lucid olive
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the picture Oi sent below that is also a way to find the answer

fiery abyss
lucid olive
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can run a quick sim and read the html report

pallid bay
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everything is multiplicative

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unless it isnt ofc

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its mostly irrelevant knowledge anyway

fiery abyss
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if its all multiplied then the best mastery gains would be made like after 21000 stat is what i was thinking but my maths could be wrong

pallid bay
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if you want to start a conversation about it you'll have to provide a bit more than that i think

delicate perch
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Source: he did the math

lofty depot
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That was 7 months ago, jeeeeeeeeeeeeez

true viper
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Anyone get an answer on this yet

lofty depot
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What about this?

true viper
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Wow

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I was so clueless man

lofty depot
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Just a lil gup

lucid olive
loud kettle
lucid olive
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yeah i'm well, how are you?

loud kettle
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depends if you got an answer on whether streaking stars procs with incarnation talented

lucid olive
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i did, gastank provided

loud kettle
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nice, im quite well then

shy void
round field
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Woooow

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Legion remix

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πŸ¦‡ 🌰

lofty depot
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bat nut

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hm

shy void
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just joshin i don't really play remix minigame

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i like raid minigame

delicate perch
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Good idea man

lucid olive
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thanks

delicate perch
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Did you get more gear with streaking on it

lucid olive
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yeah i had bis essence and benthic gear and azerite gear before i quit 9 weeks into eternal palace

delicate perch
snow elm
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wheres the boomie beta changes

lucid olive
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spec is perfect

nova ocean
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There's druid changes

somber path
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looks like some rdruid changes and a regrowth nerf bout it

leaden birch
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guys hi, been a while, on the pargoth platform, first move, do we wild charge over the slow?

lucid olive
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I usually travel form wild charge across

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Don't have to spin camera

lofty depot
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WERE NERFING REGROWTH

hollow mist
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Regrowth πŸ“‰

somber path
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the regrowth buff was to much somehow nerf it

lofty depot
livid jay
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Sheesh look at our boy being the trustable person in the raid who gets to ping themselves

round field
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Doesnt take much at wr 2000

lofty depot
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lol

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i sent here instead of raid

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tilt

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raid wrong spot

delicate perch
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Most trustable person (has keyboard plugged in sometimes)

lofty depot
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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@lucid olive 19 with command

maiden pasture
crude cargo
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its joever

delicate perch
potent cargo
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lotta sad sad ppl out there

sudden flame
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real

delicate perch
potent cargo
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not much longer until its time to grind m+ and then restart prog all over again for a month until its time to reclear for 6 more months

delicate perch
delicate perch
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OCE nerf probs gg

delicate perch
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one of these gives cdr

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the other does not give cdr

flat pewter
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uhh whoops. was wrong build..

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πŸ™

delicate perch
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happens to the best of us

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not me though because I just always use it

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and I suck

flat pewter
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legit dont remember when i changed that

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ive been fkin fuming for 4 weeks trying to figure this shit out

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OCE braindamage πŸ™‚

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cheers mate

delicate perch
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it's ok I am oce too sadly

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it's rough out here

maiden pasture
lofty depot
ember shoal
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That's a new green

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Never seen it before

livid jay
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wait

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they capped allstar to patch 11.2

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why xD

jaunty blaze
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It's not capped it shows the better rank you earned

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Whether it's 11.2 or 11.2.5

livid jay
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ahhh

lofty depot
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Yea weird "all" doesn't show all πŸ™

livid jay
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yup

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good for me i guess

craggy sonnet
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wait how did you manage to get benched for every boss other than last two

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gimme the secret sauce

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or are you just not doing more bosses

snow spoke
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hey for boomkin, I macro my priory signet to convoke, right?

maiden pasture
lucid olive
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Real bad player

lofty depot
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Can.barely get people to show up for their mount

livid jay
lofty depot
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Lock player doesn't want to kill nexus king for the first time so he queues league, we kill it in 4 pulls tell him to log on to kill dimmy and he says he's in a league game needs 20 minutes

livid jay
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pretty much yes

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tree timings can be a bit ass if u push last platform too fast but use two times trees there

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just get them out asap

lofty depot
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I just don't use trees after the push

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"we" but sure

livid jay
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yea its kinda irrelevant

livid jay
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for us its kinda an agreement that everyone keeps raiding until everyone has their mount

lucid olive
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I don't think we raid until next year

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And we didn't kill last 2 on last reclear cause cba

lofty depot
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Old guild has 1 more week of mounts and they're done

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New guild does 2 buyers everyweek

lofty depot
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Warrior quit cuz "I have twitch rivals soon and need to practice"

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Week after he gets mount

lucid olive
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Banger

lofty depot
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Yea surreeee sureeee

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Rat fuck

lucid olive
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I can relate

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Raided with a guy in Shadowlands that was like "oh yeah sorry I can't do any bosses after Painsmith cause I have to go practice for the League of Legends World Championship"

craggy sonnet
lucid olive
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What a rat am I right, who chooses League worlds over world rank 1200 Sylvanas??

lofty depot
livid jay
dire osprey
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valid

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ratting out after getting ur mount is cringe

lofty depot
livid jay
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πŸ‘πŸ»

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u joining a hof guild?

dire osprey
drifting nova
dire osprey
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then u have prob witnessed horrors during prog kills that gave u ptsd

lucid olive
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if my timeline is correct

dire osprey
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ok based

lofty depot
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I joined one in amirdrassil, but it died 😭

livid jay
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well lets hope you dont kill another guild

lofty depot
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True

maiden pasture
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who was bro raiding with

fossil shard
lofty depot
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my guild is generally never in this situation where we have mounts done 2 months before next raid

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so now that everyone has mount, like 5 people dont want to raid til next expac

exotic perch
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our raid last night was our last raid

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chill for 3 months now lol

lofty depot
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think new guild is taking 2 weeks off til jan 6, then raid til febuary. take a month off iirc

proper mica
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How’s balance feel on bet?

lucid olive
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subjective

proper mica
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Game play good?

lofty depot
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If you played season 2 of boomkin, it essentially plays th same

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Little less eclipse uptime cuz its a CD, maybe play weaver instead of rattle. Depends on tuning.

proper mica
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Ohh thank you

maiden pasture
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is there a known fix for this moonkin buttons not working shit

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on nexus

lucid olive
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yeah not dying

pallid bay
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yeah dont press bear form

maiden pasture
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didnt bear form Susge died on a wipe

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but

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now that its happened

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how fix

lucid olive
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unstuck

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log out

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anything that resets ur character

maiden pasture
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i mean it was a called wipe i just ran into a beam

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no bear form

pallid bay
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unluggi

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do some random shit and it'll fix itself

maiden pasture
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πŸ”₯

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left raid, hearted and relogged

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logged back and it worked

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dunno which one of those 3 fixed

stoic grotto
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is voidcore mega rng?

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like if no proc in cds its just mega smoge

lofty depot
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Well it is passive trinket so yea kinda

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Could use nexus king command and have no rng

delicate perch
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It’s 50/50

lucid olive
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some people said that just /reload fixes it too

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but can for sure say it didn't for me

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so if the results are inconsistent then might as well do everything to make sure

eager raft
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Exit game reopen has worked for me the couple times I’ve bugged out on that fight

vital hound
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isnt it a pvp flag thing

lucid olive
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didnt you quit

vital hound
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yea

lucid olive
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can't quit DG

vital hound
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fuck no

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got tons of time now

delicate perch
red mantle
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anyone else had raidwide fps issues on dimensius tonight?

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tonight specifically

vital hound
craggy sonnet
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nobody that sent over 30k messages in a class discord just quits wow

vital hound
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bro doesnt know g

loud kettle
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If its the start of p3 that happens sometimes

glossy jungle
loud kettle
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But not specific to tonight

lofty depot
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boomkin surely fun soon

vital hound
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lol

vital hound
lofty depot
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because if ur gooder than those players antenna gooder

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just like you could run nexus king command and do gooder

lucid olive
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yeah i love fake newsing

lofty depot
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objectively not true

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no1 =/= way less

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just like no one is running command

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except that is objectively true

lucid olive
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some crazy people are using command

lofty depot
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"person"

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ok then dont use it

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and use voidcore

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i will not be updating it

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because its not my post

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its clearly stated why its used and or can be better

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how do u know its better

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r1 on soulbinder is antenna

lucid olive
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think most people just decided to use voidcore cause catching antenna balls is cringe

lofty depot
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yea i picked a random boss and got lucky i g

lucid olive
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so voidcore is overrepresented

lofty depot
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its stated why its used

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peopel are lazy

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no its not

lucid olive
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no its not

lofty depot
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go sim it and see the diff

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no it doesnt

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it represents lazy gameplay

vital hound
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its better on farm

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cause i dont want to catch balls

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and dps doesnt matter

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playing a diff spec

lofty depot
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its week 500

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who gives a fuck

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why arent u parsing #1

lucid olive
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i just log in once a week

lofty depot
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u think its cuz ur not using voidcore?

lucid olive
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just the tip?

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oh yeah

lofty depot
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can u give proof its not besides week 500 people being lazy and not wanting to play around orbs

lucid olive
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can you go screenshot which part of the pin is wrong

lofty depot
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im not being defensive

lucid olive
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yeah like 10 minutes ago

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it was just really funny to see you being hostile

lofty depot
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gonna go parse now cuz i know its better

lucid olive
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real

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i'm wearing antenna every reclear now

lofty depot
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thank you for popping in 1 time every 4 months to help

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i didnt update it

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ur welcome tho

vagrant prawn
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do we still need to use the swap talent weakaura?

cursive mirage
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yeah

round field
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Its only a sim trap if u dont know what ur doing

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As are a lot of things

pallid bay
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everyone is a sheep

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looking at leaderboard

vale pebble
pallid bay
vale pebble
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yea

pallid bay
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you're the dawg

vale pebble
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im the sheperd

pallid bay
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shepherd without sheep

delicate perch
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why you bein so defensive compared to editing a post, takes 1 sec

livid jay
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wait till he discovers the dreamgrove website

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complete meltdown incoming

vital hound
delicate perch
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you heard him

sudden flame
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I read him i didnt hear him

delicate perch
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read it out loud then

sudden flame
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Don't wanna

delicate perch
livid jay
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stop slacking

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not going for the triple R1?

sudden flame
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I havent played in 3 weeks

livid jay
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anlacky

sudden flame
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going on 4 with the christmas break

livid jay
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u gonna get back into the raid at some point or u done for the tier?

sudden flame
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Probably we still got like 2 months left Despairge

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not raiding next tier tho

livid jay
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oof

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why?

sudden flame
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Midnight is just not appealing to me, no weakauras, 3 raids in one, neutured my spec, I don't see any reason to play

delicate perch
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nvm just full quit

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gg

drifting nova
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you forgot housing

sudden flame
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That shit is already available boss man

drifting nova
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listen here

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HOUSING

sudden flame
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Bruh i copy youtube guides for minecraft houses i dont have the creativity for wow housing

delicate perch
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you can copy paste them in midnight too gg

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games too ez

drifting nova
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I failed to copy a minecraft machine setup and died on my hc once

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me smart

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yes it was an infinite lava generator

delicate perch
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no one is surprised by that

gaunt ruin
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hi! how do you sim yourself for dungeons? it won't work with dungeon slive for me

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slice*

potent cargo
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mdt sim

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google

delicate perch
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log off and do not play minigame

lofty depot
sudden flame
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Why would i play that goofy ahh spec

lofty depot
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Says the goofy ass person

sudden flame
maiden pasture
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it is a goofy ahh spec

lofty depot
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Didn't say it wasn't

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Didn't get neutered tho πŸ™‚

lucid olive
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feral is going thru the same thing moonkins went thru in TWW

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they removed bloodtalons so now you only shred

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they removed pulsar so now we only wrath

livid jay
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they also removed snapshotting of dots tho xD

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basically eclipse and ap management gone

lucid olive
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theres still tigers fury but yeah

pallid bay
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well tigers fury dosnt reset

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so there's like nothing to it

livid jay
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the things that made feral interesting (and imo harder than other specs) were BT and snapshot bleed power tracking

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both gone

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spec boring af

lucid olive
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yeah not saying the spec isn't wrecked

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but i stand firm on comparing it to moonkin losing pulsar

livid jay
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if u add starlord i agree

lucid olive
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theres like nothing to starlord

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especially now with it not being cancellable anymore

livid jay
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idk, only thing i actually look at sometimes

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pool towards end, snapshot haste buff etc

pallid bay
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is it not cancellable

lucid olive
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not on beta no

pallid bay
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source?

lucid olive
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was in latest round of changes

pallid bay
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thats not a source..

lucid olive
pallid bay
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gege

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only took 10 years

loud kettle
# lucid olive

This looks deceptively like a source but I fear blue posts are unreliable

lucid olive
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tough luck

pallid bay
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i already checked, just cant allow gamz to not have one..

lucid olive
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its been 2 weeks

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how did you not see this until now

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poe brainrot..

sudden flame
pallid bay
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imagine keeping track what happens on beta

lucid olive
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yeah cause there's so much happening..

lofty depot
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Better be farming your 5milly for arc

maiden pasture
maiden pasture
pallid bay
rustic ice
lucid olive
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before checking

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it probably got consumed by a melee

maiden pasture
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it did

rustic ice
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you can comsume it by a melee hit?!?

maiden pasture
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sadly

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yes

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but

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there is a weakaura to prevent u from meleeing

rustic ice
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okay thanks - well sadge about the kill would be the 0,2% boss hp probably garf

rustic ice
maiden pasture
rustic ice
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Thanks ThumbsUp

lofty depot
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But 2milly to go

maiden pasture
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i was at like 5.2 but just been running actual kits now that im not stressed about it

lofty depot
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Stella Montis free as shit

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Make like 300k an hour

maiden pasture
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i just run at people on stella

lofty depot
maiden pasture
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there is no friendly in duos and trios

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only KoS

dire osprey
royal zenith
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tier is over, log out

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xmas time

red mantle
kindred geyser
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yo

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ive played wow for few weeks now, someone please come help me setup all correct spells etc πŸ˜„

lucid olive
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i don't think anyone is going to come voice chat to help you

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but if you have any specific issues you can ask and someone will answer

eager raft
kindred geyser
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am i missing something

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does this look bad

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πŸ˜„

lucid olive
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it looks fine

eager raft
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Shift p

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Is a wild bind

kindred geyser
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XD

lucid olive
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keybinds are personal and subjective

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as long as you are hitting the right spell it doesnt matter

kindred geyser
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i thought druid had a jump, am i wrong?

eager raft
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I think that one is pretty objectively not good

kindred geyser
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like a backwards jump

eager raft
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Wild charge, talent in the class tree

kindred geyser
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aah ok

ember oxide
kindred geyser
ember oxide
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I wasn't

eager raft
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You also don’t seem to have Dash on your bars. You can press it from any form and it’ll switch you into cat

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Same with stampeding roar

kindred geyser
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oh thats nice

lucid olive
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C for entangling roots is also kinda weird

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you never really press that button

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but it doesn't matter that much, my entangling roots is Shift 3 which is also probably a bad bind for it

kindred geyser
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yea i dont think ive ever used it

eager raft
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There are occasionally dungeon mechanics it’s good for

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But I can’t think of any in the current season

hollow mist
lucid olive
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you'll just mass root those dungeons i think idk

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but yeah its like

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a boss spawns an add that fixates on someone but can be rooted

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then its good

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but thats like once an expansion type beat

maiden pasture
lucid olive
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my character panel

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duh

maiden pasture
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😭

eager raft
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Healthstone

ember oxide
hollow mist
maiden pasture
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C = healthstone shift C = healthpot

ionic surge
kindred geyser
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do you know what addon makes enemies hp bar turn different color when i moonfire them

eager raft
# kindred geyser

Should choose binds for health pot, healthstone and warlock gate item

kindred geyser
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i feel like this would be mega helpful

ionic surge
kindred geyser
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cuz i have no idea who is dotted and who is not

kindred geyser
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aite ill check them out

lucid olive
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i wouldn't rely on it though

eager raft
lucid olive
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it goes away when Midnight releases

eager raft
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Will not be possible in midnight

kindred geyser
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oh

quiet drift
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Despair

lucid olive
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Blizzard thought nameplates changing color for DoTs is an unfair advantage

eager raft
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Miike ur the goat btw

ionic surge
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@eager raft are you still a respectable fella or are you devious now

quiet drift
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Surely someone cooks something up before launch

ionic surge
eager raft
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I think that answers your question

lucid olive
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the addon hating Asmongold tier 3 subs get mad when their nameplates aren't default

ionic surge
quiet drift
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grr...

eager raft
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Playing TFT in my spare time

quiet drift
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Honestly saddest for Audio que losses

maiden pasture
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how can dodge frontal without the frontal sound playing

eager raft
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Give it time

kindred geyser
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what addon is this

quiet drift
eager raft
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At the rate they’re going all of the changes will be reverted by prepatch

kindred geyser
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this is bugging the hell outta me

eager raft
kindred geyser
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hahaha

eager raft
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It something changing your scrolling combat text

ember oxide
lucid olive
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probably the first one

kindred geyser
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bingo

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ty lads

eager raft
royal zenith
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Please dont be social towards each other in a class discord

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Appreciate the effort in advance

eager raft
royal zenith
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❌

eager raft
void jolt
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well gentlemen

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long time no see

lucid olive
#

who are u

void jolt
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wouldnt you like to know

ionic surge
ionic surge
royal zenith
#

alright, it's allowed

spring pagoda
vale pebble
lucid olive
#

musta been before my time

royal zenith
#

if only

mighty mica
dense steeple
#

Wasnt that guy banned Classic

sudden flame
plucky valley
round field
round field
#

im rank 4 balance druid on my realm

void jolt
#

yeah me too

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on my realm of dragonblight im rank 4 so

eager raft
eager raft
lucid olive
#

yeah quitters dont count

eager raft
#

Plus, that’s THE swiftmend tech guy

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How can he not be #1

vital hound
#

true

lucid olive
#

imagine if they hadn't fixed the dryad tier set counting overheals

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wouldve used renewal in CDs

teal sphinx
lucid olive
eager raft
#

They always come back

sudden pawn
#

hes free from the matrix

delicate perch
vital hound
#

truje

delicate perch
#

that's my goat

#

πŸ…

stone ledge
#

So um with tier set changing we going back to haste mastery again?

lucid olive
#

nobody knows

jade flume
#

crit haste

craggy sonnet
#

wait .. you mean the prepatch tier set changes, or?

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cause im surely not gonna change my gear for prepatch

lucid olive
#

yeah theyre dumbing down tier sets for prepatch

delicate perch
#

log off for prepatch

delicate perch
jade flume
#

Vers is m+ stat

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And m+ isnt real and cant hurt me

delicate perch
#

it can in a few months

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log in gear farm

lofty depot
potent cargo
delicate perch
#

Hahahahaha remove the tomato what’s under there

lyric kettle
delicate perch
#

still have a sunday watch

#

not sure of any earlier yet

potent cargo
#

whens the next chingers stream

#

always a good option

delicate perch
#

surely a subathon in the next 2-3 hours

potent cargo
#

i actually dont know how he can survive in melbourne

#

dudes hemmoraging

delicate perch
lyric kettle
#

(no tax)

glossy jungle
#

who is tier 3 subbing to chingers

quiet drift
#

Anyone have dryad 4pc scaling math at hand

lucid olive
#

if anyone does i reckon it's Oi

lucid olive
#

yeah probably

lucid olive
#

thats crazy

meager storm
#

real

dense steeple
#

i am suffering bros

whole epoch
#

Does anyone have a good M+ build for Keeper of the Grove?

dense steeple
#

i mean keeper in keys is meh

#

just grab these really

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enjoy being carried

steel brook
#

Hi, stupid question since it doesn't sound right to me. Do I really spend AP with starfall in 2 target scenarios? If so, why?

lucid olive
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because it does more damage than Starsurge

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specifically you Starfall on 2 targets when Aetherial Kindling is talented

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and 3+ targets when its not talented

steel brook
#

Ah, missed a passive talent interaction of course. Thank you!

silent yarrow
#

so, based on what this says in the pinned message about beta stuff "The buff to Meteorites together with baseline Starfall damage makes Starfall a better spender on ST"... does that mean i literally never press starsurge ever when playing that EC build?

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or is there some reason i'm not aware of to mix one in every so often, regardless of aoe/st?

potent cargo
silent yarrow
#

yeah i mean i honestly don't care, just trying to play optimally

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i was losing to a blood dk πŸ˜‚

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but maybe they are just busted

delicate perch
#

ya blizz tends to hate aoe spenders being used on pure ST

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outside of wws though KEKLEO

elder remnant
royal zenith
#

What is that name even

potent cargo
hollow mist
round field
hollow mist
royal zenith
#

It's friday, it's 09:30

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and I want to be @ home

#

today is pretty shit!!

round field
#

Same

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I hate it

crude cargo
#

doesnt everyone

round field
#

I cant wait for christmas to be over holy fuck

royal zenith
#

real

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wait

#

not real

#

christmas = food, drinks and time off

round field
#

Im getting bombed at work

royal zenith
#

wdym ??

round field
royal zenith
#

yeah okay, that's true

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busy times

potent cargo
#

@royal zenith you never heard of big x tha plug bro

ionic surge
royal zenith
#

Mi scusi

royal zenith
#

Its fine working when everybody off

#

chill days..

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Surely..

potent cargo
#

working over christmas is either the most cruisy bs where everyone else is off and you're just vibing out

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or the complete fkn opposite and its pandaemonium hey

royal zenith
#

πŸ’€

potent cargo
#

feels like there's no middle ground

ionic surge
#

Theres a middle ground

#

Its called being bored but not being able to actually chill out because of random supervision

crude cargo
#

many such cases

maiden pasture
#

I have like no work to do over Christmas

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Cause we don't do any app releases over the Christmas period and just do random tech debt shit

maiden pasture
#

yeah ill "work on that" and not get it done by the time the breaks over so put it to the side

crude cargo
#

what about creating even more tech dept

dusk nacelle
spare dune
#

I have a really stupid q. Based on wowhead, in the ST Keeper opener i go into Lunar eclipse. So why do I go into Solar eclipse when I look at ST Keeper prio list?

I dunno what it is throwing me so much!

maiden pasture
#

the goal of the 2 wraths is not to go into lunar

loud kettle
#

^ ca gonna put u in both anyway

maiden pasture
#

the wraths have travel time so wont pull the boss insta, and will hit the boss at the pull timer

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its just free damage from casting before you're in combat thats all

spare dune
#

Ohhhh

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Wow ok yep. That helps

brave gulch
#

hello hang

lucid olive
#

wrong channel

lofty depot
fringe wagon
#

Someone told me icyveins was still good to use for class knowledge stuff is that like a credible take or should I just stick to wowhead

loud kettle
#

its all about the author not the site

lofty depot
#

Depends what ur looking for

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I don't use either as a source of info

lucid olive
lofty depot
silent yarrow
#

the keeper build in the pin is out of date?

lofty depot
#

It's possible it is

delicate perch
silent yarrow
lofty depot
#

Nop

#

Just to to warcraft logs and see what people are running

gaunt ruin
#

How is balance Druid going to perform in midnight. I saw a video that puts balance in D tier

lucid olive
#

It is too early to tell, tuning hasn't been done yet

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All you can do is just play it and try it out

potent cargo
#

and u got baited

lucid olive
#

Any video or creator that makes a tier list is doing it for the views (cause its their job) but they should not be taken seriously

potent cargo
#

no flame as well but ur not gonna be playing at a level where balance even if it was D tier, would be the thing that stops you from succeeding

gaunt ruin
#

I play high keys and mythic raid

lucid olive
#

whats a high key

gaunt ruin
#

19-20

#

Anyway. I asked only from curiosity about the tierlist. I play Druid from the beginning of wow and not gonna stop even it’s not in the best form

lucid olive
#

if you played since the start of WoW you should know that tier lists during testing cycles are exclusively made to bait you into watching it

potent cargo
#

yeah mythic raid means nothing

#

can still boomy, and high keys is just networking even if u play a shite class yk

#

you be right

lucid olive
#

the state of specs during testing matters even less for m+

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since the m+ season spans 3 full patch cycles and a bunch of tuning

potent cargo
#

plus lets be real something will be op start of the season, then blizz will release sweeping changes mid season to get ppl to re-gear/level a new char and shift the meta for end of season etc etc

lucid olive
#

yeah like

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if moonkin launches and is undertuned

#

it'll just get buffed after the race

gaunt ruin
#

And what about the fact that you should press the eclipse button. Is a win or loose?

lucid olive
#

it is subjective

#

some people don't like Eclipse being a 0.5s GCD, others don't want it to exist at all

#

heck some people probably prefer the War Within version as well

#

there's a forum feedback thread linked in the top of pinned messages that you can read

#

shared a bunch of thoughts in that post

gaunt ruin
#

Oh! Thank you! I’ll take a look

#

πŸ™

night olive
#

The goal for Blizz is to force you to keep making new chars and spending time on the game. Not for you to achieve your goals in pvp.

pallid bay
#

bro talking to the voices

lofty depot
iron chasm
night olive
#

Lmfao so sad

delicate perch
#

Lmfao so sad

night olive
delicate perch
#

real

teal sphinx
# delicate perch Lmfao so sad

I don’t like your attitude. This place is too hostile and full of ego. I don’t need that kind of negativity in my life. I’m out of this discord

lucid olive
#

isnt that an oldie

delicate perch
#

probs

#

they don't make good copy pastas anymore

teal sphinx
delicate perch
#

just checked it and I just KNEW it was a reply to arctic

wind island
#

Whats a good trinket combo in keys? Void + lily or Voud +azhiccaran?

lofty depot
viscid ermine
#

we play EC or KOTG on keys on midnight beta?

lucid olive
#

Whichever one you feel like playing

#

The beta is for testing not for key pushing

supple zealot
#

But I wanna hit 4k IO in beta to prove my worth

lofty depot
supple zealot
#

Nu uh

delicate perch
#

You added it there KEKWHands

lucid olive
#

reinstall windows for sure

delicate perch
#

Gg new character needed

lucid olive
#

whered the picture go..

lofty depot
#

u bullied him too much

delicate perch
#

maybe the addon purge is good, people just adding stuff with no clue why sounds kinda insane

lucid olive
#

the age old "is it a weakaura or a random addon?" question

#

gonna miss it

dense steeple
#

I wont tbh

potent cargo
#

bro downloaded like 6 weak aura packs and is asking a discord to figure it out for him Sketchmies

drifting nova
weary robin
#

do you guys cast moonfire on your openers or let tress put it up?

lucid olive
#

cast it yourself

weary robin
#

oh shit

lucid olive
#

the difference isn't that big, but your treants can be slow

#

so if you don't moonfire yourself and then end up sending 2 starsurges into a target that doesn't have moonfire on it

#

that's just a dmg loss

#

you should also get in the habit of using Moonfire before Sunfire, but that's also not a massive difference

weary robin
lucid olive
#

yeah treants can be weird with fountain bosses

weary robin
#

I found if I put them right in the middle as close to the edge as I can they'll cast it but otherwise they dont

delicate perch
#

I just log off

#

no moonfire needed

lyric kettle
#

real

trail heath
#

Are we back to master > haste with the tier change in prepatch?

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

im not a mathkin

normal pilot
#

sim is dead use vibe ai get with the times boomer

potent cargo
#

why bother simming just play better

#

mfs be going for r1 simming a 2 min fight with 90 diff trinkets and gem combos

#

just press ur buttons pray for rng

lofty depot
#

smh

potent cargo
#

i beat yomamadr on skollex off vibes and goop level hatred

normal pilot
#

just use the ingame blizz pawn anyways don't be an elitist

maiden pasture
#

@lofty depot

#

5 milli check

lofty depot
#

big grinder

maiden pasture
#

Ws in the chat

#

my boys like 400k away, gonna run at some people tomorrow

lofty depot
#

did i tell u i started playing arc like tuesday?

lofty depot
maiden pasture
#

nah thats just boring

#

we're just running at people in buried city

lofty depot
#

all my friends were doing stuff this weekend so i choice to solo grind kek

#

one of my friends "your ability to do the most mundane shit for hours on end is crazy"

maiden pasture
#

ye its super easyt to get like 400k but

#

its not fun

#

xd

#

much more fun to go ful pvp and hope its not only free kits ur killing xd

lofty depot
#

yea i just ran at the red tool boxes in lobby then looted lobby extract office and left

#

not bad not bad

maiden pasture
#

i have like

#

wayyy more

lofty depot
#

well yea i played for a week

maiden pasture
#

but i think in topside i have

#

85 hours

lofty depot
#

and half of that is the last 2 days

#

considering i played for 12 hours today and like 7 yesterday night

maiden pasture
#

i keep the game open so much cause of like needing to actually do work at times xd

meager storm
#

ight bilgewater kinda goated lowkey

#

execute item on mf goes hard

delicate perch
#

is new set fun

last rock
#

Do we still make a cancelaura macro for "Starlord", when we wanna spend AP and have like 1.5s left on the Starlord buff so I dont miss the buff afterwards and dont have to shitty find gaps to avoid that?

lofty depot
#

"still" implies we were doing it before something

#

which we werent

last rock
#

Wasnt it a thing in WOD? πŸ˜„

lofty depot
#

WOD WAS 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO

last rock
#

Was the only thing I remembered on that macro. Found it yday and was just wondering

lofty depot
#

there are some of us that starlord cancel still

#

but its not an increase and most people that would try to incorporate it would lose damage doing it

#

by some i mean like 4 people

last rock
#

In that situation I should propably use Starsurge once and care on the spend after Starlord went out to get stacks maxed asap?

lofty depot
#

all of that is in this yes

#

generally ur starlords should line up with eclipse ending when done properly

#

there are situations because of how long CA vs starlord is, but the main idea still applies

last rock
#

thx

delicate perch
meager storm
delicate perch
#

I was juiced too, looked away and realised I lost a round WaitWhat

#

oh that's why

meager storm
#

i think thats the most consistent prismatic

#

i have only seen the yordle quest for it once and 4 people were going for yordles

lucid olive
gentle patio
#

In Midnight will we still need to frontload eclipses for boat?

#

And will the aoe rotation be basically moonfires on all -> sunfire on all -> eclipse button -> free starfire -> starfalls > upkeep dots > starfires ? Anything I am missing?

round field
raw fulcrum
#

I think it's a good thing what they did at midnight; our gameplay doesn't seem to be getting wrecked like the kittens.

#

But I'm going to miss the huge Starsurge

lucid olive
#

Feral had complexity for them to remove, Moonkin doesn't

#

Moonkins complexity got removed in TWW beta

maiden pasture
#

moonkin really hard

#

someone this guy in my guild can pick up any spec and go nuclear on it but cant do moonkin rota

lucid olive
#

Yeah it's too difficult for sure

#

You look at the spec and see like 5 different cooldowns to line up and then you start overthinking it instead of just sending

drifting nova
#

proc resets when

#

make brain light up

raw fulcrum
lucid olive
#

It looks worse than it is I think

#

Use treants with CA/Eclipse, depending on which condition is met first, never Convoke without CA, use CA whenever Treants and Convoke are either both available or Convoke cooldown is longer than your current CA recharge (which usually only applies to the floating charge you start out with)

#

Then just macro trinket to CA

pallid bay
#

that line dosnt make sense honestly

#

like if you're reading a guide

#

you lack the knowledge to understand what that even means i think

lucid olive
#

Yeah maybe

#

I think if you just hit some dummies for 10-15 minutes you'll be able to figure it out tbh

#

Like writing it down makes it seem more difficult than it is

#

But then again you get people random sending Convoke with nothing else

drifting nova
#

those people cannot read

#

iq test failed

lucid olive
#

I guess the Whirling change helps with that since it's a natty 2 min recharge now

#

So you just have that floating charge on pull and then CA will naturally align with Convoke

#

So the only decision making to do during a pull is managing Treants with Eclipse which isn't really that bad

#

Not sure what the optimal condition is for Treants either, logic would suggest it's using it the global before Eclipse/CA, but I guess it can change depending on your Eclipse recharge

drifting nova
#

passive treants when

solemn finch
#

Hows boomkin with Brawlers guild atm?

craggy sonnet
#

"depending on your eclipse recharge"

lucid olive
#

Like your Eclipse has 5s left but you can send another charge right as it ends

#

So might as well treants in the middle of it

craggy sonnet
#

does that make sense tho? arent you gonna have to mostly bank RP for the start of next eclipse anyways?

maiden pasture
sweet vigil
#

"how could you tell i was a balance player"

dense steeple
#

I couldnt

exotic perch
dense steeple
#

How'd you do it that fast wtf

#

||everytime I go there's a line of like 19+ people||

drifting nova
#

busiest part of azeroth atm

#

is it back in the tram?

exotic perch
#

I was alone lol

#

Guess i hit the perfect time

teal sphinx
#

Also night time is big, or raid nights its empty

dense steeple
#

fair

exotic perch
#

yea i did it last night at like 10pm

#

only fight that wasnt blow em up was the blingtron one

#

rest of them you end it in 15 secs as moonkin

hollow mist
red mantle
#

merry christmas gang

zealous willow
#

Big grats!

quiet drift
#

Christmas saved

#

gg

plucky valley
#

Perhaps this will be pleasing

placid olive
red mantle
#

πŸ¦‰ ty all

misty patrol
#

gz

royal zenith
plucky valley
spare dune
#

Does anyone offer sessions to help people learning balance? I dunno why I can’t get my head around it. I’d be happy to pay!

lone turret
clever ibex
#

New eclipe implementation yay or nay?

quiet drift
#

Yay

lofty depot
#

also all the guides will be outdated in a month so thatll be fun

royal zenith
#

oh nooo what are we to dooooo

delicate perch
royal zenith
spare dune
round field
#

Uh

#

Warrior of elune

#

And flare methinks?

#

So no

red mantle
red mantle
quiet drift
#

NK really only is phase1

#

Dimensius each phase has its own issues

royal zenith
#

I think NK is a bit more volatile

#

Dimensius you can somewhat control better...

#

but it might just be group specific

lucid olive
#

Every phase on Dimensius individually is easier than NK P1

royal zenith
#

I really like NK P1

#

but yeah, it's definitely not the easiest

#

people love getting mindcontrolled

quiet drift
#

That shit sucks ngl

#

The variance pull to pull

vale pebble
#

what variance is there

quiet drift
#

Beams

vale pebble
#

only variance is who gets clawed

quiet drift
#

Which tank buster

#

Claws

vale pebble
#

tank buster too yea

#

but its 1 or 2

quiet drift
#

One pull ur afk

#

Other

#

Ure playing DDR

royal zenith
#

and the knock is just annoying

quiet drift
#

I think if my class had more than 3% haste itd be fun

vale pebble
#

beams are not really random

royal zenith
#

not hard, not difficult, not weird

#

just annoying

vale pebble
#

whats random about it is that its hard to be consistent with them

royal zenith
#

tru tru

vale pebble
#

which i guess u can call random