#balance

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lucid olive
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you want real norway band you'd go Kaizers Orchestra

drifting nova
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sounds..dutch

brittle ruin
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Hi, any tips on how to beat rank 7 brawler's guild ogrewatch ? 🙂

round field
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Wait brawlers guild is back

brittle ruin
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Yes

maiden pasture
round field
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Thats ok

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Expected from a free to play game in early access

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Gonna be fixed soon

brittle ruin
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Btw i found the way to do them, mighty bash / solar beam / treants to take care of the tesla coils

void jacinth
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what have u been up to Olle Bolle?

exotic perch
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they got some great riffs but i obv cant understand them lol

lucid olive
exotic perch
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lmao

lucid olive
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there's a lot of vastly different dialects in norway

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on top of that they're screaming the lyrics and talking about viking shit and drinking mead

exotic perch
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i mean the viking shit and mead is great

lucid olive
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so it's hard to follow

exotic perch
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same as listening to a scottish person talk

lucid olive
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agree to disagree my friend

exotic perch
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cant understand shit

lofty depot
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Gamz is lucky he doesn't have an accident

exotic perch
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also why i love bands like jinjer, lyrics are so clear even though ESL

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though their music would be great if they did more songs in Ukrainian

lucid olive
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i've never been big on music i don't understand the lyrics of

round field
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and courtney

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spiritbox is so good

exotic perch
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ye spiritbox is nice n ethereal but i enjoy the prog stuff from jinjer more

vital hound
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banger song

hazy garden
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are there any good resources on youtube for boomkins, specifically around parsing?

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for those that play warlocks, AliveTV has comparable content im looking for if it exists

lofty depot
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uhh u parse by playing more correctly than the person at #1

mighty mica
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cheesing more*

lofty depot
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reading guides will help u

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casting more effeciently will help u

quiet drift
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Press convoke and pray

pseudo merlin
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there's like the youtubification of the compendium maybe

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but nothing new or different

nimble tangle
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I have a dream

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One day moonfire will be the same as sunfire dotting

pseudo merlin
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no

rich jewel
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Build only mastery and vers but still just 100% crit spells

sudden pawn
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20% increase to Denizen of the Dream damage reverted.

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its literally over..

pseudo merlin
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its still not a silence...

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why do they hate us

sudden pawn
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thats from months ago

pseudo merlin
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holy shit got baited

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damnit squishei

lofty depot
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u can now full heal from regrowth with 5 globals instead of 6

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big

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this however is unacceptable

loud kettle
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agree

exotic perch
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hell yeah stronger autos

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love dmg being not skill based

loud kettle
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the 20% ability dmg doesnt include autos

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so its effectively keeping things the same just 20% more dmg

nova ocean
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Blizzard saw us star falling in st and said let's buff ur heals that do nothing when u press them

cursive mirage
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I bet this is the last round of changes we will see before launch!

lofty depot
exotic perch
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tbh when they did that range decrease patch

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that was awful man

vital hound
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removing the extra sunfire range

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was also not cool

nimble tangle
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I see Blizz 120IQ on buffing boomie surviving

zinc heron
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So now balance can finally heal in PvP yay

cloud citrus
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2k ticks feels powerful

normal pilot
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hm they changed something with dreamstate

lucid olive
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Imagine it's the bugfix for Convoke not to consume it

meager storm
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how about the bugfix the pulsar removal, that was a missclick im sure

lofty depot
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he already got total eclipse approved, just need to tweak it ever so slightly

meager storm
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i mean they want to cut down on ap gen they said so

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bring pulsar back cuh

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make weaver so every time u proc it u gain a stacking buff or something

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holy

lofty depot
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something like 12 surges gives u a ca proc

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yeayea

zinc heron
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Is it me or with starfall base rattle kinda will never get picked since weaver is always a chance

lofty depot
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good

zinc heron
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Denizens buff reverted lol poor faerie dragons just make them KotG already

nova ocean
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It's good I like having all my capstone talents absolute trash

lofty depot
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2/5 not bad

nova ocean
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Ones only good with one hero talent

lofty depot
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neither of the 2/5 care about your hero talent

lucid olive
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I agree that generally talents below the 20 point gate should be good talents, but the bottom row specifically being referred to as capstones that should be powerful just depends on the general design of the tree

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Incarn/Convoke and FoE/Moons are the gameplay-altering choices to make at the bottom section, which is fine. Maybe the left side should have an equally interesting choice instead of Firmament/OB but it is what it is

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Honestly could move Starweaver/Rattle choice node to where Firmament/OB is on beta

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then change Umbral Embrace to proc off spenders so it interacts with the node that paths into it

cursive mirage
lucid olive
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sure

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i do think those movements would make sense though and wouldn't really take a lot

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kinda logical for firmament/ob to path into foe/moons no?

lofty depot
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yea but who says theyre doing things logically

cursive mirage
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yeah its a little weird that those things aren't linked more closely I guess

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but yeah i mean it really doesn't matter that the bottom row is the strongest. That being said....get umbral talents out of the bottom section of the tree

lofty depot
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that umbral move do be crazy

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"well theyre taking it 100% of the time, theres gotta be a reason"

fathom nebula
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How the hell do you do Brawlers Guild "Let me solo it", the shield breaks as soon as you enter the arena (It was the enemy, did Dippy and it didnt break)

round field
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well if i told you you wouldnt really be "soloing it" anymore

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sorry

livid jay
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love to see it

fathom nebula
livid jay
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imagine

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"wild growth of elunes fury"

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doing pulsing aoe damage around the targets with each healing tick

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holyyy

lucid olive
fathom nebula
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Let a boy have his dream from a 3 year old shitpost

lucid olive
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if your dream involves an AI image then you should rethink stuff

fathom nebula
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Fixed it

spice roost
lucid olive
spice roost
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?

lucid olive
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yes thats one of them

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the one below as well

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i recommend doing this

spice roost
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i found it

craggy sonnet
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good job

spice roost
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was listed under lvling title

craggy sonnet
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*in Midnight Beta Test Development Notes

drifting nova
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quick, important question

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stranger things yay or nay

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I'm bored

craggy sonnet
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what season 1?

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or final

drifting nova
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all of it

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never seen it

craggy sonnet
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ill vote yay then

drifting nova
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so last season bad?

craggy sonnet
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unless you're a freakishly old geezer

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no i just havent watched

drifting nova
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well

craggy sonnet
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because they split it in 2 cours

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wouldnt have recommended watching now to have to wait a few more weeks to get the rest

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but its a pretty good show. probably not for everyone tho

drifting nova
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eww, they're actually releasing almost the 2nd half of s5

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on christmas day

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aside from last ep

craggy sonnet
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ye

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but you gotta get there first anyway

drifting nova
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just seems to weird to do christmas day

lucid olive
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Better than season 4 so far imo but I didn't like season 4 a lot

craggy sonnet
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but all the DRAMA

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im waiting for the entire thing to be available is all

lucid olive
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Yeah that's fair, I spend way too much time online to avoid spoilers so I can't do that

craggy sonnet
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*on tiktok you mean

lucid olive
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No lol

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Mostly Reddit and Twitter

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My TikTok algorithm is lobotomy core and young Sheldon

craggy sonnet
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aight HUH

drifting nova
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is young sheldon still going?

lucid olive
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No I think it ended and they started the spin off about his brother being married to Hannah Montana's best friend

pseudo merlin
lucid olive
pseudo merlin
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wha...

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i am completely and utterly confused

craggy sonnet
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why you gotta ask

pseudo merlin
lucid olive
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That checks out

pseudo merlin
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We call that a festival

lucid olive
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The dance floor is lobotomized

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Probably a good thing

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Stops the disco from panicking..

lucid olive
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Damn that joke really killed the chat

maiden pasture
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Who is blud talking to

pallid bay
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me

lucid olive
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Ain't that crazy

pallid bay
lofty depot
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Who was top 2 tho

pallid bay
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where do u find it

lofty depot
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Think it's near pins

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Mobile is fucked, doesn't show

pallid bay
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am i winning

lofty depot
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Definitely a loser forsure

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P surr adept got outted as being a 0.01% discord user

pallid bay
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think my sidekick and me

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both just mute discord and stay in voice

lofty depot
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The ferals got more hours in voice since the chatroom update than u did with your sidekick all year

pallid bay
round field
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KEKWPoint @lucid olive

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Get ratiod nerd

pallid bay
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someone should kick them

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just to ruin it

lofty depot
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That's crazy

drifting nova
lucid olive
pallid bay
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i simply have access to the internet

jade flume
pallid bay
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ik coverage can be rough when you live in some rando norwegian village

lucid olive
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It's doomed when your top 3 discord sidekicks include both Sune and Arctic

lofty depot
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Maybe get better friends

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Fuggn loser

pallid bay
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stupid american

lofty depot
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I will not be changing

cursive mirage
cursive mirage
drifting nova
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VerySadCat cant even access my checkpoint

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discord bad

lucid olive
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its either sune or arctic, discord wouldn't tell me

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it just told me number 1 and that's an irl friend

cursive mirage
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boo

jade flume
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Says im too private or some shit

drifting nova
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and changing it now does nothing

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smartest discord

jade flume
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I mean yeah, not surprised about that

drifting nova
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not like they dont already have the data

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if you can be included in others checklists

maiden pasture
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0/10 ragebait from kekkers

drifting nova
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SuspiciousChicken is fax

maiden pasture
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I'll bite cause I'm bored

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Your privacy settings means they didn't store that information in your own data. So they won't make one for you after you turn it on because it's still not stored for you specifically, they're not going to go through everyone's data looking for your ID to make a profile for you

lucid olive
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why bother checking off for extra privacy

drifting nova
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i'm lazy as shit

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you think I manually turned it off

maiden pasture
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I didn't manually turn it on

drifting nova
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half the discord settings didnt exist when I started using discord

lucid olive
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the default isnt extra privacy

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i never touched any of it

drifting nova
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the only setting I've only ever manually changed and even thats once per server

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is disabling pings

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and mentions

lucid olive
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never really cared which conglomerate media knows my internet habits, i'm the most boring person alive

maiden pasture
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Legit

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Oh no they're gonna find out I play wow and yap on discord

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Horrible information to share

lucid olive
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gasp

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it can be a little weird when you talk to your friends about some random product and then get ads for it the day after

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but mfer just get an adblocker

maiden pasture
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Targeted ads are chill

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I got some nice clothes from targeted ads

drifting nova
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solution, just see months into the future for something that has yet to happen

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for a button that you've yet to see

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hell, even at worst discord loves pinging random shit like new badges or nitro to you

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"you'l need X setting enabled for this at the end of the year"

lucid olive
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discord is way less intrusive than other platforms when it comes to that shit

drifting nova
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ok great

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it's still not entirely unintrusive

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or I wouldnt know of half the shit that gets pinged

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the technology exists

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try using it

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the hardcore cynic in me however leans to it being a future choice

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not a now choice

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which I and you couldnt care for

lucid olive
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well yeah, i use vencord with some custom css so i don't get any pings about whatever you're talking about

drifting nova
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not alot of them, but they do exist

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1 every few months

lucid olive
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when they roll out some new feature i just disable it

drifting nova
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mostly nitro related big shock

lucid olive
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get fake nitro

spice roost
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with the way the raid has adds on every boss do you think raises the chances we play incarn on bosses in midnight over convoke

lucid olive
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no

cursive mirage
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gamz about to reverse jinx us into stix build on every boss 😠

lucid olive
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won't have the same oomph without the 200 AP bounteous bloom

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like, i guess raid fights having adds is a positive for incarn, but outside of maybe the 3 paladin boss i don't think you'll play incarn on any other boss that's been tested

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boss dam too valuable

lofty depot
craggy sonnet
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are we thinking one of them is gonna be changed to a pure ST fight?

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surprised there isnt one already

lofty depot
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In undermine many people played incarn week 1-2 on OAB

lucid olive
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think the only boss with that potential is salhadaar

craggy sonnet
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boomies on oab week 1-2?

lucid olive
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yes

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the 2 target dragon boss has a lot of add spawns but those are just gonna get mass gripped into chain CC

craggy sonnet
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who played a boomie and made it to oab week 1-2

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ok found some

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all good

lofty depot
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Chill lil gup

magic edge
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anyone got a loadout for EC in midnight

lofty depot
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Did u read the pin

magic edge
lofty depot
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Incorrect

magic edge
lofty depot
magic edge
lofty depot
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Read the paragraph

royal zenith
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after his question

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I CANNOT

lofty depot
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Get mad lol

royal zenith
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mad about what

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you're actually dumb

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LMAO

lofty depot
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How

magic edge
lofty depot
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Ur welcome

royal zenith
magic edge
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if anyone got a loadout for EC in midnight please share 🙏

lofty depot
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CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQhAAAAAY2mZZmFzMjFWmZZMzMshBAAAQABAAAYBYGAgBAAAMzAA

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Surely that's good

lofty depot
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Have fun filling out all the rest of the hero talents and class talents

spice roost
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@magic edgeCYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjxMDwsYmZmZxMgxMLzsYmZsNWmZZMzMsghBYstNzgxsNAmAAAAsYmZmZwmhxYAAAzMYmBA try this

spice roost
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np

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happy to help

lucid olive
lofty depot
vernal dragon
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feels really hard without a kick

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1 shotted every other fight but been stuck on this trio for a bit

lofty depot
lucid oriole
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AN epic question .. does cyous gonna build a new UI with midnight changes ? like old days ...

lofty depot
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@ him and ask

dry compass
dry compass
clever lark
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Hello, quite new to balance. Lookes like their middle of the pack currently, but balance is normally a good choice for high end m+?

round field
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not rly

delicate perch
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Better than some but certainly not “normally”

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You aren’t a lust class and resto and bear can both be good in m+

clever lark
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Hmph trying to invest in a new class. Been playing warrior, evoker and priest. What ive misses is the mobility in warriors witch ive felt druids have

lofty depot
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Mobility for what

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Wildcharge is on a 15 second CD, outside of 2m for dash which is a seek help moment. You have some instant casts otherwise you're running around dodging.

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You also, lose woe in midnight so less mobile than before

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It could however be more fun in midnight who knows, go test it on beta

exotic perch
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if you like warrior mobility and how it plays youd prob enjoy DH or windwalker

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most similar to that

delicate perch
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You’re also most likely not going to be walled by playing Druid

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Depending on what “high m+” means to you, Druid will probably be fine

potent cargo
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like yes big data IOT can create these insane links and suggest you products but i was talking about a work thing (never searched it up, completely random) then now I get 10 adds a day about it

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could they make it less obvious pls facePalm

lofty depot
delicate perch
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30% uptime lookin ass

delicate perch
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Damn sorry I don’t go that high

eager raft
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are u not a keyer any more

delicate perch
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Nah our tank quit

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We got him on fellowship though

eager raft
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i havent really found motivation to play fellowship since it came out

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played the playtests a lot tho

delicate perch
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The new holiday event is fun

exotic perch
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is that what people are saying?

teal sphinx
delicate perch
delicate perch
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Log off right now

teal sphinx
delicate perch
novel mantle
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does anyone here play remix?

lofty depot
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its 5am in france tho

drifting nova
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he's in france?

oak wedge
ionic surge
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i dont play remix anymore because i've done it all but yea

dusk nacelle
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so i am messing around on beta and just learning balance in general i'm using a KOTG build and have a question about Eclipse and Incarnation. Do you cast them immediately in succession or do you stager them?

lucid olive
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there's no reason to press ca/incarn when already in eclipse

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ca/incarn gives you both eclipse bonuses

dusk nacelle
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ok so stagger then but obviously if i want a ton of up front damage i press incarnation right?

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so like on a boss pull for instance

lucid olive
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on pull youd do Moonfire->Sunfire->Treants->CA/Inc+Starsurge->Convoke

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and then enter Solar Eclipse when your CA/Incarn runs out

dusk nacelle
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i see

lucid olive
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and then depending on what Treant CD talent you're playing you either do another Eclipse before using Treants->CA+Starsurge for the 2nd CA charge or just send Treants->CA+Starsurge on 30 seconds

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i put CA+Starsurge instead of an arrow (->) to show that you should use CA/Incarn on the same global as your spender and not on the same global as your Treants

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it's a mistake i see a lot of players do

dusk nacelle
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the finer points i really appreciate thanks gamz i will try some of this out who knows balance may be my main in the coming expansion right now i am a shaman main ele and resto

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if been liking how balance looks and feels tho and i know resto is strong for healer

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anyways thanks again

snow thunder
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Guys I cannot find the seed of solar fire on remix from the vendor for hidden balance appearance

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Why?

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I am exalted too

lofty depot
lofty depot
lucid olive
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rip

cosmic thorn
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how is beta boomie feeling?

lofty depot
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and if starweaver is actually good

cyan locust
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yo gang. i dont see myself killing mythic soul hunters. is it worth spending my tokens on the heroic boots? or is it better to just get myth with good stat or crafted

lofty depot
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sim question

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could go spam heroic and see, depends why or what u want it for

cyan locust
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mostly m+

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im not a mythic raider by any means

lofty depot
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its like a 1-2% gain prob

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if u dont have any booots

cyan locust
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ok, im like 690 ilvl rn lol so i got alot to do

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just didnt know if max crafted boots would be better than the heros

lofty depot
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sim it

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as stated

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ull get more out of your crests by upgrading other items first

delicate perch
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less oogie woogie more poe2

tired chasm
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ok, so ... I can't find a reference for this anywhere, but does starfire generate additional astral power when it hits multiple targets, but only in lunar eclipse? I can see it happening from testing but like I said, no idea where this comes from

meager storm
lucid olive
meager storm
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good for ec ig

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on st

lucid olive
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yeah

tired chasm
vital hound
left hazel
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wtf lol

delicate perch
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you tell em bud

muted citrus
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my dad works for discord and he said its a world record

exotic perch
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hence the cats

potent cargo
round field
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I wouldnt

plush lintel
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hey guys! have any tried the midnight beta?

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any talent suggestion ?

plucky valley
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None for talents but I suggest that you kick ass

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Moonfire, sunfire, eclipse

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The holy trinity

dense steeple
kind raptor
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Do you just use the default keybinding in the beta? I can't bind shift or ctrl mousebuttons with that unfortunately lol.

kind raptor
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Seemsl ike the got rid of flap

hazy garden
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I was wondering if there is a separate discord or channel for TBC specific content for balance druids?

pliant crow
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does balance in midnight have a sick burst ramp like last season or nah? think that was all tier set related, yeah?

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also why do both choice nodes of whirling stars and orbital strike reduce CD by 60s? why not just make CA a 2min CD? lmao

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I wish I had the choice of a stronger 3min

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but since I don't, just make it a 2min default

hollow mist
hazy garden
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aha! thank you!

lucid olive
void jacinth
lucid olive
lucid olive
lofty depot
void jacinth
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to me that creates more work for me and less dopamine peaks

lucid olive
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Yeah cause pressing convoke and alt tabbing to refresh reddit is big dopamine

lofty depot
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Yea but they don't care about your dopamine

void jacinth
lofty depot
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CA alone hasn't been a strong CD in many expansions

lofty depot
lucid olive
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They have choice of 3 min stronger cd or 2 min piss cd

lofty depot
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U could however not take whirling stars or orbit strike and think it's a very strong 3m cd

pliant crow
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i just mean if the talents that make your CD stronger both reduce it by 60s, why include it in the text and just make the CD baseline 60s shorter

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feels like residue

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from when CA was a 3min

craggy sonnet
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maybe they are gonna adjust orbital strike further

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hard to tell what the big picture might be

lofty depot
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when we went from the 3x7 talent pages to these, theres talents that should just be base line but they make nodes

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so they make you "choose" to have a 2m cd... when they just expect your cds to be 2m

craggy sonnet
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hooly .. 18s for vault

lucid olive
lofty depot
craggy sonnet
plain canyon
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anyone to share a beta build for boomie ? 🙂

lofty depot
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did u read the pin

pallid idol
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Is Fang of Goldrin not simming properly?

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it's not showing up there at all despite having the talent

lofty depot
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press the arrow on surge

pallid idol
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oh nvm, it shows up under the starsurge tab

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lol

delicate perch
pallid idol
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anyone else discover the random moon proc every 30 shooting stars sims higher than sundererd?

lofty depot
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sim isnt exactly how gameplay happens

delicate perch
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Random
Every 30 procs

pallid idol
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i also personally have found it to be more damage in my 19-20s

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because it does like 3-4% of my overall damage and it still builds astral just like the other one

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sundered does like 1%

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moon does like 3-4%

lofty depot
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u dont play sundered for the overall

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u play it for the extra damage amp

pallid idol
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i know that but the astral gen from the moon is just as good

delicate perch
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?

lofty depot
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u dont want astral power

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u want to cast more starfires

pallid idol
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does sundered do something for starfire

lofty depot
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have u read ur talents

delicate perch
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It’s too early man

pallid idol
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sundered doesn't seem to be effected by starfire so

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i don't know what you mean i guess

lofty depot
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well u would be wrong

delicate perch
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Starfire good

pallid idol
delicate perch
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Damage amp good

lofty depot
pallid idol
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just creating a fury of elune for the uptime on atmospheric, i get that

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just seems to be that the uptime of atmospheric isnt reduced too much when taking moon talent

lofty depot
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8+6 =/= 6

pallid idol
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just looking at my own logs

lofty depot
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the talent difference doesnt actually matter

pallid idol
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at least the moon grants the debuff as well

lofty depot
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its within a few %

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well it does.. it jsut doesnt do it for as long

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ull gain more damage from playing correctly than you would picking the different talent

pallid idol
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there's just so many random fury of elunes from our hero tree that i barely care about the extra ones from sundered i guess

#

because i found myself overcapping more with sundered because its bubbling up while i cast

#

and the moon talent is rarely overcapping me at all

#

i think overcapping is pretty relevant given our tier bonuses so

lofty depot
#

gaining asp is actually bad

pallid idol
#

idk, it sims better, does more damage, doesnt reduce atomospheric uptime by any relevant amount and it is btter on overcapping

lofty depot
#

u would rather gain less asp than more

#

u cast starfall not because it does more damage than starfire but because u want to cast more starfires

#

and ur starfire does more damage when ur not capped

delicate perch
#

What sim is that

lofty depot
#

4m st

delicate perch
#

Nice lil 4 minute with pots and all

lofty depot
#

cuz big brain

delicate perch
pallid idol
#

uh that particular SIM was just a random issue i had for a moment

lofty depot
#

takes picture not linked

pallid idol
#

it wasn't in reference to what we're talking abt rn

lofty depot
#

or st for that matter

pallid idol
#

i wasn't trying to sim+ i was just trying to see why the talent didnt appear on an aoe sim

lofty depot
#

4m aoe sim 👀

pallid idol
#

oh my god you people are really insufferably toxic 24/7

#

lmfao

#

i respect it

#

madame morrible vibes

lofty depot
#

im glad u came to a place u knew was toxic for information that i gave u

delicate perch
#

Nah uh, I sleep sometimes

pallid idol
#

you didn't give me any information you egotistical nerd weirdo

#

you just argued with me

#

and made me defend random things that i wasnt discussing

#

youre toxic and awful

#

and bored

lofty depot
pallid idol
#

we sent it the same timestamp

#

i figured it out in seconds

#

youre a douchebag

lofty depot
#

me first

pallid idol
#

who cares

#

you're so ridiculously childish

delicate perch
#

@teal sphinx you didn't give me any information you egotistical nerd weirdo

pallid idol
#

you didn't give me a shred of information other than some random argumentative attacks that i had to deal with before i could even ask a question

#

that you never even actually cared about answering

lofty depot
pallid idol
#

you want me to bow down to your IQ

#

your intelligent

lofty depot
#

i gave plenty u just seem angry

pallid idol
#

your intelligence

#

youre so smart

#

'read your talents'

#

jesus

#

what IO are you even

#

link me your armory

#

who are you

#

i need to know

delicate perch
#

10 million

lofty depot
#

well that is a good starting point when u dont understand something yes

pallid idol
#

what kind of toxic weirdo you are

#

just link me your armory

#

show me your confidence levels

#

i want to see what causes a person to become this way

#

show me your accomplishments

delicate perch
#

Yeah orange name weirdo

pallid idol
#

awe me

#

awe me

#

give me something

lofty depot
#

i was this way before dreamgrove

delicate perch
#

Link him your logs kappa

pallid idol
#

i want to see how smart you are

lofty depot
#

ur spamming sir

pallid idol
#

link me something

#

prove yourself somehow in this moment

#

give me your instagram

#

tiktok

#

let me see a selfie

delicate perch
#

HAHAH

pallid idol
#

cmon bud

#

lemme see how you really are

lofty depot
#

whos the insufferable one now

pallid idol
#

ah yes

#

you are getting medicine in your own taste you lil shit lmfao

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

?

pallid idol
#

how annoying can i be

#

LMFAO

#

OHKAY

lofty depot
#

the difference is im not a whiny brat

#

spamming

pallid idol
#

yes you are

#

you are a whiny argumentative brat

#

spamming

#

peopel

#

to feel bigger and better and smarter

#

your name even sends the message of how passive aggressively toxic you are

delicate perch
#

This a banger crash out ngl

pallid idol
#

can you pls send me your raider io

#

just that

lofty depot
#

my name is so u know to read the pin

#

some people dont know

pallid idol
#

no your name is to patronize anyone who asks a question who dare not realize your pin of 5000 words has somehow covered it some benign or tangential way

#

you think you're nice for being here and answering questiosn

lofty depot
pallid idol
#

youre stroking your small ego with an irrelevant game in NA

lofty depot
#

the pin shows talents for midnight

#

are u dumb?

delicate perch
#

What’s your character name justtin with two Ts

pallid idol
#

who cares

#

you're annoyign asf

#

no one likes you here

lofty depot
#

get mad about htat

pallid idol
#

youre just always mean

lofty depot
#

roid rage or something

lofty depot
pallid idol
#

you cannot fathom anyone having an opinion you havent already autistically calculated in some word or excel spreadsheet

#

youre too smart for us all god

lofty depot
#

actually not true, i said u could use either talent

pallid idol
#

oh now youre so reasonable

lofty depot
#

and it didnt really matter, i then stated why u wouldnt use the moon one

pallid idol
#

lmao

#

ok

lofty depot
#

but go off

#

i was reasonable before u started crying moron

pallid idol
#

you were not so upfront in an objective way until after you were attacking random shit

#

that is a lie

delicate perch
#

Nvm found you, accurate character name

lofty depot
#

u just cant read or decided to rage

#

cant tell

pallid idol
#

you were cryptic

lofty depot
#

just sure

pallid idol
#

belittling me for not realizing your reference

lofty depot
#

how is any of that cryptic

pallid idol
#

which was ridicuous

lofty depot
#

because u cant read its cryptic?

pallid idol
#

all you had to say was uptime on atmospheric was an issue

#

no you were being cryptic and toxic

#

all you had to say was 'uptime on atmospheric'

#

and we coulda kept talking

#

but you decided to ask me if i read my talents

#

as if starfire being affected by sundered is n obvious read somewhere

lofty depot
#

well we could keep talking if u didnt rage

#

but here we are

lofty depot
pallid idol
#

when it's obviously not an obvious fucking read somewhere, it's something you deduce from 3 talents combined

lofty depot
#

then again i tell people to read things and they dont

#

tragic really

pallid idol
#

you were being cryptic and misleadingly annoying just to prove i may be stupid or ridiculously undereducatd on the spec

#

you could have just fucking said atmospheric

lofty depot
#

which part of that was misleading?

pallid idol
#

pretending sundered and starfire have a direct talent correlation

#

it is not direct at all

#

it is indirect at best

delicate perch
#

?

lofty depot
#

it directly makes ur starfire do more damage

#

it quite literally correlates

pallid idol
#

if youre starfiring the same target your FOE has proc'd upon, yes

#

it's not always the case

delicate perch
#

??????

pallid idol
#

the nuance is relevant

delicate perch
#

What?

lofty depot
#

it what world are u targetting something ur not starfiring?

#

that u just proced sundered on

delicate perch
#

Bros got his foe proc in another instance

pallid idol
#

there are plenty of times a FOE escapes the main area of mobs depending on the type of m+ situation youre in

#

if you havent experienced that

#

i would assume youre just not doing 20s

#

or 19s

lofty depot
#

lol

pallid idol
#

am i correct lol

delicate perch
#

Lmfaooooo

lofty depot
#

no

pallid idol
#

okay

lofty depot
#

ur just not

pallid idol
#

what is ur characters name

delicate perch
#

No ones cares about your minigame man

#

The season is dead

pallid idol
#

what

#

is

#

your characters name

lofty depot
#

im sure u cna find it

delicate perch
#

He’s posted his character countless times

lofty depot
#

my group died before turbo boost

delicate perch
#

You’re not gunna like what you find though

lofty depot
#

i havent ran an m+ in months

#

mini game is cringe

delicate perch
#

Very based decision

#

Login fellowship

lofty depot
#

but tragic really

#

we wre pooshing

pallid idol
#

lmao i didnt realize you were so inexperienced gonna go argue with someone else enjoy yourselves here in this little friendly lair youve created

delicate perch
#

Why you leaving after searching for him

#

Come back KEKLEO

lofty depot
#

well its tragic i had to watch dwilkz push keys to know things u do in 20s that u dont understand while u push them

#

but this is actual content

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

u should lock in

#

cant pug first 4?

delicate perch
#

Loom hard

lofty depot
#

real

delicate perch
#

His moons didn’t proc on tangles

#

Gg

lofty depot
#

hey justtin

#

u should cast foe before incarn

#

and probably not sunfire in incarn

#

sequencing in ur cds and prior is pretty off and ur losing damage

#

but how would i know if i dont run 20s :/

#

ooh shit 10m in and he did it correctly

#

damn we were doing so well and poof all the glory gone

#

@delicate perch oh god he might waste all that time and not get title

quiet drift
#

tldr?

lofty depot
#

someone got angry at me

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

@googleremindmeinfebuary

quiet drift
lofty depot
#

calling someone a nerd while online, in a wow discord, while ur trying to get title gotta be a new level of mental illness

#

m+ ers really do be pinnacle of mental illness

lucid olive
dense steeple
#

gamz would be highly interested in that

delicate perch
round field
#

who even does 20s this late in the patch

#

whats wrong with ur head

#

go play a good game or something

supple zealot
#

This ^

lucid olive
#

oh well

#

guy says it sims better but doesnt have a sim to send

pallid bay
#

green name elitist

#

smh

mighty mica
#

used to be you

lofty depot
#

now hes just white name elitist

brave gulch
#

hello chat

lucid olive
#

wrong channel

hollow mist
brave gulch
#

you're not supposed to be here

mighty mica
#

she's everywhere

brazen badge
#

Guys have anyone tried going no mastery just for testing ? I wonder how bad is

dense steeple
#

we dont test how bad things are

#

we test how good things are

lofty depot
#

soma tests how bad u can be forsure

dense steeple
#

how bad i can be while still outperforming people*

#

im trying the demo for that pragmata game that capcom is making

#

think it'll be good?

lofty depot
dense steeple
#

i'll give it a 7/10 off the demo

dense steeple
#

i lied i'll give it a 9/10 first impression

#

i replayed the demo to speed run it

#

and it changed

#

i got new things unlocked, new dialogues, new cutscenes

#

the little robot bitch even broke the 4th wall

turbid sundial
#

What are your guys opinions on the best M+ items you can buy with dinars specifically.

I checked the Pinned comment and it lists good items from either M+ or Raid in order but its not generally for M+
Also if i look at the general average of the top 50 M+ Balance Druids there are alot of Voidcore + Voidglass spire + either Parapodia or Rital forge, but also some antennas and i think its not quite clear to me Lily also sims kind of high for me right now.
I was just wondering what your guys opinions are and why 🙂 Thanks for reading have a good day ❤️

lucid olive
#

lily, antenna, parapodia and voidcore are all good

#

the voidcore staff probably up there as well but don't think it makes much of a difference

elder remnant
#

Is there a benefit this tier of entering eclipse before CA?

elder remnant
#

I can’t remember why we used to do it

lofty depot
#

vault, we used to get a free spender

#

in m+ u can get a cycled sundered firm

#

but the grace stacks are better

wild dune
#

wasn't there a benefit to dreamstate when it did bonus dam or something also

lofty depot
#

cant remember

cloud citrus
#

going into CA with dreamstate stacks made your first starfire do BIG DAM

delicate perch
#

log off

drifting nova
#

uninstall

lucid olive
#

Entering Eclipse first has never really made a big difference since VOTI, but some people think the reason you cast 2 Wraths on opener is to enter Eclipse first, when you just cast them for free globals

#

See a lot of people cast 2 Wrath on Dimensius opener too when there's no reason to

#

Not that it mattered much in VOTI either, you just got a free spender on a target where you didn't benefit from Mastery

maiden pasture
#

wasnt the tierset in amirdrassil about dreamstates

round field
#

dreamstate was the tier set

#

it got turned into a talent later

pallid bay
#

dot first anyway

quiet drift
#

You also dont wanna convoke while adds are up

vale pebble
#

u were doing it in cn guys

#

funny boat window

#

double on use

quiet drift
#

🤢

#

That trinket was vile

vale pebble
#

yea

#

funny prenerf empyrean ordnance

quiet drift
#

I loved how if the boss forced u close your CDs would be misalign

potent cargo
#

sludgefist double on use window

#

got u locked tf in

#

or whatever the bitch was with the cannisters upstairs where if u ripped the convoke sometimes all ur spells dont go off

lucid olive
#

Sludgefist in DF prepatch with venthyr ramp

#

Big gamer

drifting nova
#

CN 2.0 when

vale pebble
#

90% boat

#

was it

ionic surge
lucid olive
#

Remember Motes on Huntsman, easy 40 second fight

elder remnant
#

ty for the discussion

#

i thought there were boat reasons for entering before CA

#

maybe in M+ and not raid

hollow mist
lucid olive
#

Anyone else hyped to do +18s for vault next expansion

sudden flame
#

Imagine playing midnight catpointingandlaughingemoji

grave cargo
lucid olive
#

Good joke

ionic surge
drifting nova
drifting nova
#

dont like only 10 people do 18s

jade flume
#

Last thing we needed was to give m+ noobers more power

drifting nova
#

especially top heavy

#

those sweats will play regardless

fossil hemlock
#

The kekkers bait is getting weaker

drifting nova
#

it was never bait

#

we all see what we want to see

fossil hemlock
#

"New reward post +10"
"Still no post 10 reward"

drifting nova
#

both can be true

#

no reward 11-17

#

is an average 10er who logsoff

#

going to do 18s

#

use your noggin ye

jade flume
#

There is reward inbetween since it goes up gradually

fossil hemlock
#

No, but they might do 12s or 14s

#

Or whatever the breakpoints are

#

This is an incentive to not just brain-AFK weekly +10 keys

jade flume
#

I think someone said 15 was 3/6 mystic

#

And 18 was 4

fossil hemlock
#

Sounds likely

drifting nova
#

almost at the point where myth track

#

is half the reward structure

jade flume
#

So 15 would be the shill breakpoint for noobers early season

#

Cuz aint no way im pushing 18 week 2

drifting nova
#

or just spam 10s for crests

#

path of least resistance

jade flume
#

Idk, dont care about most people

fossil hemlock
#

People don't even spam 10s currently for crests

#

So

drifting nova
#

30k~/4m

#

currently 18+

lucid olive
#

feel like i've seen this movie before a lot..

fossil hemlock
#

Probably

round field
#

incentive to not play the game lowkey

drifting nova
#

the people that play the game more end up playing less

round field
#

aint no power in the world getting me to step into a 18 key

fossil hemlock
#

Then don't?

round field
#

thats the plan

fossil hemlock
round field
#

tho if i raided

#

id get gun pointed in my head

#

"do weekly 18"

drifting nova
#

wait isnt turbo boost in

#

or w/e its called

round field
#

what does that have to do with anything?

drifting nova
#

shrinks that 40k down

#

to pre vs post

fossil hemlock
#

Gee you're right

#

I really wish they'd add a m+ step between +10 and +18

#

Just a single one would be nice

#

Also there's no incentive to go above a 12 right now unless you're going for score

drifting nova
#

crests still being a mistake will forever be on my bingo

eager raft
fossil hemlock
#

Yeah but Kekkers went straight from +10 to +18

eager raft
#

Kekkers is an unserious individual

crude cargo
#

it isnt even an amazing change since most ppl will hit doing 18s by the time they dont require much more gear

jade flume
#

Yeah but we arent most people

#

We are Gamers

crude cargo
#

kind of a nothing burger change

rich jewel
#

The podcast m+ elitist got their way

#

M+ must be much better source of gear than raid

crude cargo
#

raid always has the best gear

jade flume
#

Kinda depends how hard raid is compared to m+

#

If you can do +18 early on for 4/6 items it would be huge

rich jewel
#

Isnt 1/6 vs 4/6 like one full week of gilded

crude cargo
#

didnt they change how the upgrade system work

rich jewel
crude cargo
#

dungeon is faster gear early on if you dont do splits

pallid bay
rich jewel
#

Make delve option for 5/6

lofty depot
pallid bay
#

world quest option 6/6

rich jewel
lofty depot
#

Surely u can delve hof as Aug

pallid bay
#

idk if we're even a m+ guild anymore

rich jewel
#

Raid all nights , m+ all day

#

Wtf is delve hof

eager raft
#

The delve boss has hall of fame

pallid bay
#

4 people above 3.8k

jade flume
rich jewel
lofty depot
pallid bay
jade flume
#

What the helly

#

He was in evolved tho or

rich jewel
#

Using titles lul

pallid bay
jade flume
#

Ggs

pallid bay
eager raft
#

Even if ur not gonna use the title u have to delve hof

#

Do u know how embarrassing it would be to not have delve hof

jade flume
#

I think we will only have like 2-3 people get title too lol

rich jewel
#

Im good not knowing where the entrence is

jade flume
#

Last season was like 8 or sth

pallid bay
#

im surprised people even log in for raid honestly

#

game feels completely dead

eager raft
#

Tomorrow is the last raid of the tier then taking a break til midnight

#

Might try a prepatch raid or 2

crude cargo
eager raft
#

I don’t think many ppl are playing beta instead

crude cargo
#

im not saying they are, am saying as soon as new content is announced for next expac nobody want to play anymore

jade flume
round field
jade flume
#

Was trying to bench last raid but sudden power outages, and cats on fire and no internets started happening...

sudden flame
#

I sucessfully benched myself for 2 weeks in a row

sudden flame
crude cargo
#

i went on 2 weeks holidays and we arent raiding anymore

#

its joever

lucid olive
#

total m+ runs fell off hard since turbo boost

twin lotus
#

they should buff all classes that are lacking behind in M+

#

so people can play their boomie main instead of fdk

#

😢

eager raft
#

Gaining score post turbo boost is incredibly unethical

eager raft
jade flume
#

Imagine turbo boosting instead of playing goty E33

#

Or any other game tbf

drifting nova
eager raft
#

Yeah this is the perfect time to start playing again

quiet drift
lucid olive
round field
#

Cause no one wants to play with kekkers

slender island
round field
#

So now he can blame the lack of players instead of himself

round field
#

Worst take ive heard all day

#

And i spent 2h doomscrolling twitter

slender island
#

is it worse than 3 more months with nothing else to do?

quiet drift
#

They should just make all trinkets and tier sets available with some piss currency

#

4fun without some insane regrind

jade flume
#

Id run out of valorstones agane

crude cargo
#

turbo boost really highlights the flaws of current gearing system

round field
#

Just log off play better game

drifting nova
stray drum
#

bohemian grove

royal zenith
#

do not

crystal locust
#

Dumb Q perhaps: I'm progging M Dimensious - is it worth a dps loss to equip HC dimensious ring (I'd assume it's a survivability gain)?

lucid olive
#

no

crystal locust
#

Quick and easy, cheers!

lucid olive
#

if it had less haste maybe, but still probably not if the alternative is a myth track or crafted ring

#

also it's like week 1000 you don't need the survivability on that boss tbh

#

but you could say the same for damage so

lofty depot
delicate perch
#

Elitist gamz

carmine vigil
#

these toxic elitists ruin the game i love

lofty depot
carmine vigil
#

that shit is NOT fun to play

lofty depot
#

U used to be a for fun stweamer

carmine vigil
#

i have become addicted to league of legends

lofty depot
#

thats tragic

grizzled shoal
#

the cleanest Lee sin

exotic perch
#

i too once was that man

meager storm
#

mid lost, bot lost, top lost, report jungle

exotic perch
#

i play aram and arena now

#

the aram mayhem shit is fun