balance

[lucid olive]

its likely you would yeah

[zinc heron]

You can’t now btw

[lucid olive]

yes that's why would is past tense

[dusk nacelle]

So to high level players cause I am aspiring to be is it normal to have the healing and dps the same spec to become a master of the class verses I heal on Druid and I dps on hunter for example

Like does the gear kinda match if I went resto/boom

[zinc heron]

Balance/resto double dip on items though lol

Same as resto/ele

[dusk nacelle]

Ok that’s kinda what I’m looking for

But Ele is so cooked atm I didn’t my resto

[zinc heron]

Ele is fine

[dusk nacelle]

I have been healing resto shaman on beta as a returning player I like

[zinc heron]

Resto shaman is a bit weird but big ass totems is fun

[dusk nacelle]

But I see what the long time players are saying about skill expression missing

Overall I’m happy with resto shaman but so unsure about Ele

[dusk nacelle]

I played totemic and it was fun but I have been testing faseer more

Hey thanks guys I may try Druid and test it out on beta

[zinc heron]

Hmmm does whirling stars cd nerf actually fixes balance cd mess?

[meager storm]

how did u fix the sht getting duplicated to every action bar im going insane

[ripe slate]

its a bug with dominos

[meager storm]

good one

[ripe slate]

i disabled dominos and it worked

for me

[meager storm]

omgbruh

[nimble tangle]

action bar addons are almost all dead

[ripe slate]

idk what the patch did but its stayin off till that shit fixed lmao

[nimble tangle]

are we dead in 12.0

[zinc heron]

Kotg just got slapped, EC got QoL, overall it’s fine still

Umbral being useable now and meteorites buffed there might be a real difference between aoe and ST builds now lol

[nimble tangle]

[meager storm]

great spec

[craggy sonnet]

what is your obsession with umbral?

[zinc heron]

?? It needing challenge node was sad and it was never going to be pick now at least it’s open as option

[ripe slate]

[meager storm]

oh and if u count crashing stars its even higher

[dense steeple]

i turbo fucked my spotify wrapped

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-woke-gif-7409043

[meager storm]

good bye goldrinn, welcome home meteorites

3.5k on st

what a beautiful chart

[sudden pawn]

more like a beautiful fart

[tulip snow]

thanks I'll snapshot this feeling for the next few months

[lofty depot]

yea u would do it at the end of eclipse and starlord would have starlord for 15s or the start of the next eclipse

sorry late reply

[ripe slate]

is this like ST with weaver lmao

[lucid olive]

sadly deleting my starlord macro

[meager storm]

yes

[ripe slate]

[lucid olive]

yeah pressiong starfall

[ripe slate]

are we starfall main filler casters

god i love blizzard

main spender*

[meager storm]

mayhaps

[lucid olive]

lower AP gen = starweaver buff

[ripe slate]

shooting stars buff = solstice buff = weaver buff

[lucid olive]

ye

[meager storm]

lower burst on treants windows = weaver buff

[lucid olive]

that too

but thats also EC buff

[meager storm]

[lucid olive]

[meager storm]

imagine a world playing weaver with ec

[lucid olive]

no thanks

[ripe slate]

the day ec is fun to play in raid is when they make starfire not a 5 year long cast

[lucid olive]

i like it

get so much work done

press starfire

go empty washing machine

press starfire

take out the trash

press starfall

[lofty depot]

its really funny when they cant balance something they just remove it

too much work, gonna delete

[lucid olive]

man, you press Starfire and you have enough time to acquire a chimpanzee, teach him video game controls, have him level a druid to max level and press Wrath before youir Starfire is done casting

[forest delta]

Chimkin joining feral in the graveyard

[meager storm]

pretty sure this was a buff

but who knows

[forest delta]

Bro idk I just felt like doomposting

[nimble tangle]

wait a second, we now starfall at ST in 12.0?

[meager storm]

maybe

[lofty depot]

well u wouldve always done that if u playd weaver but nonetheless its 4 months til midnight is out and sims dont exists so grain of salt

[nimble tangle]

i gotta say, great indie small company

[lofty depot]

whats the problem

used to proc pulsar with starfall

lock in big dawg

[zinc heron]

Meteorites probably get nerfed by like 25% lol

[lofty depot]

did u read the notes or

[zinc heron]

You haven’t read chat if you asking that

[merry ibex]

What on earth is the sum of all these changes

[zinc heron]

The 150% was probably too much lol

[lofty depot]

added to the mastery

but too much?

that talent is behind like 3 others

and is always dogshit

[zinc heron]

It was 150% on top of adding to the mastery

[merry ibex]

EC is weird I dont hate it in keys but I dont think I'd like it in raid, maybe its because of the warrior of elune type effect which gives some decent mobility in bursts

[dense steeple]

"i dont like it because it gives some decent mobility" ???

my brother if thats the problem what are you smpoking

[zinc heron]

EC should make moons viable it’s what’s sad

[lofty depot]

there was plenty of times to try it in raid

shouldve

[merry ibex]

I didn't word that very well, I have used it on the odd fight here and there this xpac but I don't think I'd like it be the main raid hero talent

in midnight I mean

[wintry umbra]

is memekin back?

[dense steeple]

you knwo what was a fun moonkin build

moonfire, starfall, moons

as ST

[nova ocean]

Changes are good 🙂

[wintry umbra]

That to me is what memekin is whenever we press Starfall over surge in st I think I remember it happening in legion for a short time

[snow elm]

they gotta buff starsurge by 50% thanks

[dense steeple]

i was talking about dad buil;d in legion yes

[wintry umbra]

I forget was it shooting stars giving a ton of ap that caused that build been long enough I've forgotten most of the details outside of that it happened in legion

[uncut roost]

IS IT BACK!?

[ripe slate]

potentially, will it stay? who knows

[zinc heron]

Btw faerie dragons buffed again, just put the damm things in KotG already lol

[lofty depot]

might be more than 20% watch out

[dense steeple]

no shot do they let us keep this lmao

[ripe slate]

maybe the person tuning moonkin will conveniently leave to tune other classes and not make it back in time

[zinc heron]

I just want to be followed by 2-4 faerie dragons lol

[lofty depot]

u can be

just proc them

[lofty depot]

nah hes locked in

hes making boomkin better day by day

[zinc heron]

We have like 2 maxx and not for long sadly

Mostly will be 1 up

[ripe slate]

stellar drift back when

xdd

[dense steeple]

hopefully next patch

[zinc heron]

To be fair stars might not need to be nerfed if goldrinn gets buffed

[ripe slate]

i will be casting only starfall during mythic raid testing

[dense steeple]

and dots

its actually going to be entirely your fault this gets nerfed i think

[zinc heron]

Just buff goldrinn to compete

Question is touch of the cosmos and hail part of this?

[meager storm]

yes

[nimble tangle]

who is boomie designer

in blizzard

[mighty mica]

@terse egret

[dusk nacelle]

anyone got a M+ build for EC updated?

[lofty depot]

go test some shit and let us know?

[dusk nacelle]

i have never played druid lol

but ok

i guess starter build and go from there

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch

#deserved

[lofty depot]

week 500

basically bought it

[delicate perch]

Didn’t you kill it week 498

[teal sphinx]

2nd reclear

[teal sphinx]

he killed it

[lofty depot]

type shit

[delicate perch]

[teal sphinx]

like 20 fucking ranks ahead of us

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

shit

[teal sphinx]

and he raids 3 days a week

[delicate perch]

3 days

[lofty depot]

why does blud only have 1 kill?

[delicate perch]

There should be a wr limit on coloured names

[lofty depot]

"us"

[lucid olive]

folty sat him

[teal sphinx]

^

[lucid olive]

real

[teal sphinx]

was hunting the first week of prog

sat me for all of prog

wcyd

[lofty depot]

not take vacation during prog prob

[lucid olive]

yeah smh @cursive mirage bad leader

[teal sphinx]

shit was planned 7 months prior

[exotic perch]

psh i dont even have 1 dimmy kill

i get mine tmr

[teal sphinx]

should have killed the boss earlier

[cursive mirage]

idk dont play ass

[lucid olive]

oop

[cursive mirage]

maybe dont bitch about not getting healed while you are taking ticks of the puddles? seems simple

[lucid olive]

mythic daycare drama in dreamgrove get your popcorns

[cursive mirage]

looool

[ripe slate]

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[teal sphinx]

maybe on every other pull

[delicate perch]

Maybe just heal him

Idiot healers

[teal sphinx]

have the healers heal me above 50% for 14 seconds

[teal sphinx]

💯

[lucid olive]

yeah heal his character

[teal sphinx]

i need IRL healing ngl too

[lucid olive]

he is Jesus H. Pepsi after all

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/god-pray-jesus-christ-sign-of-the-cross-god-bless-you-gif-16384246

[lucid olive]

@cursive mirage seems like a guy who would have podcasts on his Spotify wrapped

[teal sphinx]

100% he is

[lucid olive]

top 3 artist on his Spotify Wrapped is Poddy C

i guarantee it

[cursive mirage]

i cannot get through a full episode of that man

makes my brain hurt

[zinc heron]

Always remember an advantage of being a boomkin is that u can heal urself if anything fails lol

[lofty depot]

hes an elesham

which also has heals for themselves

[dense steeple]

I havent even killed it you racist

[delicate perch]

I’m from Australia how can I be racist

don’t answer that

[cursive mirage]

[mighty mica]

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

youre white name in spirit we all know

[lofty depot]

thats toxic

[lucid olive]

you would know

[lofty depot]

that youre toxic? yes i do

[lucid olive]

takes one to know one

[dense steeple]

Thanks buddy

[delicate perch]

You’ve spent more time doing side missions than playing wow man

Time to give it in

[dense steeple]

Im living proof that nepotism and fanboy dicksucking cant get you places in video game class discords

[lucid olive]

nepoloria

[dense steeple]

Washed boomer moonkin player pretends hes still in his prime simulator

Bedtime

[lyric kettle]

True and real

[drifting nova]

[harsh jungle]

Guys why is everyone using diamantine voidcore? When I sim it it is less dps

[delicate perch]

proof?

[lofty depot]

maybe he doesnt miss his antenna orbs

[delicate perch]

@dense steeple do I masterball mewtwo

[muted citrus]

apparently it's less shit than diancie somehow

try some other balls first

[delicate perch]

but I like to match them 🙁

diance got the love ball

[muted citrus]

oh I guess M for mewtwo is goated

I tried so much shit for that little rock fairy and I eventually gave up

made me so mad

[delicate perch]

I just spam slept and got it to red health

took like 15 attempts

[drifting nova]

scared? just throw a reg ball

[wide dawn]

How is chicken looking in midnight beta ?

[delicate perch]

Me when I don’t read

[drifting nova]

you paying me to read huh?

[maiden pasture]

Bro fell for a kekkers post

[spice roost]

fluffy

or blue with stars

[drifting nova]

theres only one correct choice

choose wisely

[delicate perch]

fuck

[drifting nova]

[delicate perch]

@dense steeple I'm so done farming this dog ass fox man

[livid jay]

wtf is red moon and lunar wrath

[vale pebble]

some bear shit pretty sure

[livid jay]

oh

[livid jay]

was confused cause its in the balance section of the patchnotes

but guess that aura they buffed/nerfed there just has all of that for some reason

[pallid bay]

there's a bunch of that stuff that they never really bother with

[vale pebble]

yea i thinks they clicked some moonfires

[pallid bay]

old abilities still stuck in some template or copypaste

[vale pebble]

and for some reason lunar guardian or whatever the free moonfire proc is on bear

is counted as balance spec on wowhead

something something random shit

[livid jay]

the bug/feature with us getting bear aggro generation when we press bearform is probably just the tip of the iceberg

[spice roost]

didnt they fix that

[delicate perch]

[livid jay]

idk did they?

[spice roost]

i thought it was in notes

[livid jay]

im not playing the game 😄

[spice roost]

oh lol

[livid jay]

1.5h per week raidlogging for reclears max

and i made a nice druid house yesterday

[delicate perch]

Me too

(It’s just a wall and a door that makes you leave the house)

[livid jay]

mine is fancy af, first big room has a massive moonwell and trees and plants it feels like you're in a dark forest

[livid jay]

a guildie yesterday made the exit door mega small and hid it somewhere in his house - some people got trapped cause they didnt know about the leave house button 😄

[delicate perch]

[fair bloom]

is it normal im not hitting dryad cap after convoke

im getting like 20m short sometimes

[delicate perch]

are you perhaps pressing literally anything with it

[fair bloom]

no i had not tried that

[delicate perch]

link a log idk

sounds sus

[fair bloom]

lmao just my luck

[vale pebble]

yea hasnt worked for like 30min

or somethin

[fair bloom]

rip

[pseudo merlin]

Based

[fathom nebula]

Potential Chicken Ambulance dream???

[vale pebble]

no mate

[fathom nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-think-so-i-cant-even-disgust-colin-farell-no-gif-17201964

[vale pebble]

this is not shadowlands or bfa

ur regrowth hits for 1/16th of ur hp bar or something

[sudden flame]

[livid jay]

its a blessing that keeping yourself alive via regrowthing during rot is not a thing

can just blame healers that way

[fickle grail]

i dread the days when fuckers had the audacity to tell me "just regrowth yourself" after i complained about healing

god bless its over

[spice roost]

the dr isnt bad from it atleast

in kotg

[fickle grail]

i still do that when i have the instant

[spice roost]

the heal is nothing tho

[fickle grail]

but i aint castin it

[spice roost]

ya

[fickle grail]

aint no next to my name

[spice roost]

thoughts for mplus keys on beta ?

just testin shit out

im so happy they adjusted the cds so they line up now

[livid jay]

i mean sometimes when i dont have shit or when raid is not so healthy i even hardcast it for the dr

but at least im not sitting there and spamming it for 5-10 casts straight anymore

fuck that

[lucid olive]

i'd probably play kindling instead of that other talent

[livid jay]

over the years i trained my healers

my resto mate knows he can pad on my hpbar

[spice roost]

oh really ok

ill do that

[livid jay]

what is the other talent?

[spice roost]

100% faster starfall damage

[livid jay]

oh yea surely you want your dots to be extended in keys

depends on key level i guess

[lucid olive]

the talent makes Starfall have a 4 second duration but do full damage

so if you're in a pack that lasts for more than 8 seconds there's no real point taking it

[livid jay]

sounds pog for low keys

[lucid olive]

or for stuff like Araz

[livid jay]

yee

typhoon into vortex

into get fcked dk bozos

[spice roost]

makes sesne

ty

[grave cargo]

How is the feeling on beta rn for balance ? Too good like in undermine ?

[lucid olive]

wat

[delicate perch]

You heard him

[spice roost]

balance was too good in undermine???

what

news to me

[craggy sonnet]

you still have 45s trees technically

[spice roost]

i think blooming makes it 1min and it was buffed so idk

if we take that i mean

[craggy sonnet]

well .. it did go from 24% down to 16% amp 🙃

[spice roost]

ya but summons 4 now right

how doees the amp change what we take of that node

[craggy sonnet]

thats already part of the 16

im just talking nonsense

but im not sure if this is technically even a buff to bounteous

[dire osprey]

as som1 that didnt check beta yet i just assumed it was pretty much just gonna do double damage

lol

rip

[spice roost]

shooting stars is doin work tho

[vale pebble]

well there is a point u condense ur dmg more

also ur not perma in eclipse

boat also exists

the question is more

do u need to redot moonfire

if yes u pick kindling

[lucid olive]

yeah

[dense steeple]

Bro I'm scared to start

[dire osprey]

am i looking at the wrong notes or did they change alot of talent positions

(havent seen shit about midnight yet)

[lucid olive]

you can open talent calculator on wowhead and see the new spec tree

there's talents removed and reshuffled

[dense steeple]

Cant fall mewtwo or diancie anyway. If you kill it they cutscene it back alive and say go next lmao

[lucid olive]

impossible to grasp the scope of changes just from reading notes

[vale pebble]

they have changed a lot of talent positions this patch and in prior patches yes

[twin lotus]

very nice changes

Just need some more power on apex talents

and we're set

[lucid olive]

idk apex talents are kinda good

the bolts is the only questionmark

[twin lotus]

they fixed them not benefiting from anything (at least they say so in patch)

The 20% burn is whatever

as in it's tuning dependent and not very interesting

[lucid olive]

idk astral smolder is probably the best talent out of those 3

[blissful star]

Chance to play 1m convoke with new changes?

[lucid olive]

maybe, won't know for sure before there are sims available

i think it's unlikely

[vale pebble]

its pretty interesting because it makes u play good

well correctly

[twin lotus]

So far from the numbers, it looked like majority of dmg is starsurge, but they buffed some passive sources to make the dmg spread more even

and that meteorites buff is 😋

every other fight has spread cleave

we will eat good

[vale pebble]

meteorites isnt spread cleave

[twin lotus]

Yes, it's cleave

[vale pebble]

meteorites is single target

[twin lotus]

it's decent as long as u press starfall

so more dmg on fight that we do that anyways

lightblinded and the two drakes

Did you peeps play EC or KOTG on the lightblinded

So is this every tick or is it every instance of dmg ( scaling with targets?)

Pretty ambivalent

[vale pebble]

its every tick on your main target mate

this talent's best use would be something like oi 2target or something

or some cooked burst spend in starfall oi build with some prio dmg needed

on st oi spend in starsurge ec it was like 0.8%

which was not really worth a point

they buffed it by like 2.2x

so it would be worth in that build barely

actually they are also buffed by eclipse n shit now

so yea might be ok talent now

[odd crag]

As someone who’s never played balance (outside of classic/tbc and that doesn’t count) what kind of spec does it feel most similar to?

[lofty depot]

Most of the specs kinda don't build/spend the same .... But frost mage without blinks

[meager storm]

Weaver my beloved

[lofty depot]

1m convoke my beloved

[meager storm]

Alright ban this guy

[lofty depot]

Parsed based on having total eclipse proc correctly on trees or not

[vale pebble]

destro

[lofty depot]

Oddly enough frost mage and destro 2t cleave their spender.... Hm

Silly starfall

[lucid olive]

Destro or Shadow Priest currently

Probably more like Destro overall tbh

[pseudo merlin]

wait

did they just nerf moons further

why does blizzard hate fun

[pseudo merlin]

sussy

?????

[vale pebble]

think its

autopilot nerf everything other than dots and spenders

ive not actually looked at how good or bad moons are

[lofty depot]

Not good

[pseudo merlin]

probably

they havent been good in a while

[vale pebble]

Source?

[eager raft]

@lofty depot tldr yesterdays patch notes for me

[lofty depot]

There's no Sims to tell which are best

[pseudo merlin]

ask arctic

Just pick atleast one with an on use that lines up with cds

[lofty depot]

Find an on use with int or mastery and find/fuck around with a passive

It's raid testing, go test some shit

[pseudo merlin]

I pick the pretty looking ones

[lofty depot]

Half the people playing are playing sub optimal doesn't matter

[eager raft]

@lofty depot tldr yesterdays patch notes for me

[lofty depot]

Moonkin saved

[eager raft]

🙏

What does new whirling stars change bring CAs cd to

Idk how long it is currently tbh

[lofty depot]

0'd out the aura buff and buffed other shit

But u dont have a frame of reference to what that means really

The interesting parts are the changes to whirling, potent, and bot

[lofty depot]

Well 2m - control

But if u run 2m trinket, ur always sending at 2m

Back to the s2 ish playstyle

[eager raft]

interesting

Makes OS even more non competitive imo

[lofty depot]

Uhhhh, idk.... They hate us having burst damage

If total eclipse is taken I'm gonna tilt prob :/

Just a far worse version of the pulsar idk idea

[eager raft]

I gotta log into beta tonight and try it out. I’ve not really played it much so far

[royal zenith]

Oh yeah?

[craggy sonnet]

but you now always get the full moon dmg buff in EC

[pseudo merlin]

yeah true

@lucid olive how good is extra tree

[craggy sonnet]

kotg as a whole just nerfed

early springs -15s vs bounteous 4th tree come out as the same dmg amp on average

[royal zenith]

[craggy sonnet]

so arguably the one thats less regular but bigger is prolly better

early spring should just be replaced tbh

[royal zenith]

Define nerfed

[pseudo merlin]

made less gooder

[craggy sonnet]

harmony got cut in half?

[royal zenith]

As tuning is not as relevant rn

[craggy sonnet]

8% per tree > 4% per tree

seems like a nerf, yeah?

[royal zenith]

I see

You didnt get the point

But yes thats a nerf to trees

Also got an aura nerf

[craggy sonnet]

i mean, they are balancing numbers between specs and abilities within a spec

but the harmony change is deliberately cutting down on the overall power level of kotg

as of now

[royal zenith]

I didnt dive into details, but it seemed they wanted to make it easier to align cd’s

[craggy sonnet]

idk if our hero trees somehow contributed to our overall more than for other specs for them to want to tune them down

[royal zenith]

If easier = spec more dam

So you need to reel it in

[nova ocean]

I think the kotg nerf is more a sign thing for blizzard they clearly want less burst

[royal zenith]

They’re just balancing around gameplay

Thats all

[nova ocean]

This also might be easier for them to tune us

[lofty depot]

If there's a damage amp flight bot maybe better

[craggy sonnet]

what now?

flight bot?

[lofty depot]

Bot is the talent dork

[craggy sonnet]

probably. just curious how big the impact is relative to EC and other specs hero talents in general

[lofty depot]

Also just made aura 0 so we can see how bad we are throughout the expac ezpz

[craggy sonnet]

bot is what talent

[lofty depot]

The bloom thingy

Shares with early spring

[craggy sonnet]

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN

[nova ocean]

Ya zeroing out our aura is good for sure

[lofty depot]

It's called bottenous bloom or whatever

[craggy sonnet]

bounteous

[lofty depot]

Learn to read

[craggy sonnet]

maybe you should try

[lofty depot]

No

[craggy sonnet]

bounteous is just gonna be the default now

the only reason to run early springs is for stupid timing reasons again

which

i dont even wanna deal with

so delete that isht

[lofty depot]

Yest

[zinc heron]

Just make FoN 30s cd already

[lofty depot]

I want them to make EG good so we play 1m convoke

[royal zenith]

Imagine the riots if you have to play EC in raid

With Midnight haste

[eager raft]

Can you please @ me or reply to my message when you wanna chat

I didn’t see this til now I would have loved to chat with you 🙂

[royal zenith]

Maybe I didnt tag you for a reason

Gotta live in the moment, else its gone past

Remember them words

[eager raft]

You’re the best deux

I appreciate you

[royal zenith]

🤮

[pseudo merlin]

toxic sarcasm

Deux is so full of himself he probably believed it too

[lucid olive]

no, respectable genuinely loves deux

its odd

[pseudo merlin]

I don't think anyone does

I don't believe that

[royal zenith]

I love myself....

do you believe that..

[eager raft]

Gamz is right

I am a softy for deux

[lofty depot]

I am a softy for deux ftfy

[pseudo merlin]

I do, yes

[royal zenith]

[zinc heron]

hmmm what would be the buff?

just take the duration and number of spells reduction out?

[lofty depot]

Can't do that lol

But idk, make it only cast surges lol

[pseudo merlin]

have a button that just instantly shits out 20 surges?

Sounds like a great idea

[lofty depot]

Well it would be half or w.e. it is now

Cuz it's 1m convoke

[eager raft]

Mmmm salmon

[plucky valley]

The watermelon really just said that it may have came up in it a little bit self centered but did I kill a queen? Now Alexander McQueen got the wrist on glow and the bottles is on pour got the shimmy shimmy yeah shimmy yeah shimmy

If you don’t understand what I just typed that’s because it’s Nicki Minaj lyrics

[lucid olive]

the queen

[plucky valley]

Slay

[mighty mica]

well, no

[lucid olive]

played an impromptu acoustic cover of starships once

banger song

[pseudo merlin]

brother

it's december

IF your watermelon that red in december

[zinc heron]

i mean thats too much lol

[pseudo merlin]

Still the peak of all the " food" you've been posting recently

[mighty mica]

depending on where archon is in the states, it's still in season

[dry compass]

Isn't ravec EU

[mighty mica]

yes

[dry compass]

Growing crops after November scares them

[pseudo merlin]

Ye

It's not natural

Winter isn't coming

It's already here

[dry compass]

It's funny cause once you get far enough north then it's just greenhouses and you're back to year round growing

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah but those people also don't have any sunlight

So it's like whatever

[dry compass]

And it's all root vegetabels

But wcyd

[pseudo merlin]

I fuck with potatoes and onions though

[plucky valley]

I live in Florida

So, yup.

[mighty mica]

still in season then

[pseudo merlin]

ah

[mighty mica]

yup

[pseudo merlin]

Are your winters like 30 degrees instead of 50?

oh sorry idk what that is in freedom units

[plucky valley]

Depends on the years sometimes we get into the 20s

Oh

Ohhh yeah same

[pseudo merlin]

like

70 instead of 100?

[lucid olive]

potatoes the best thing to come out of colonizing south america

[pseudo merlin]

Wait yall get 20 F in croc county?

[lucid olive]

imagine if the spanish didn't go over there we wouldn't have baked potatoes

[pseudo merlin]

I figured it's just never below like 70-80 there

if it's 20 do the gators just freeze solid and wait it out?

[dry compass]

IIRC they just sleep on the bottom of the swamp or w/e

[scarlet tapir]

i need an housing expert

@dense steeple this looks like you

my guild is on horde island or whatever but im alliance how do i get there

[dry compass]

Damn soma getting called out for being Dreamgrove resident casual gamer

[scarlet tapir]

did i lie tho

[pseudo merlin]

I will choose to believe this

[pseudo merlin]

you drop a 20 and join the real faction

[dry compass]

They poke their nose above the surface for air and literally sleep in the ice

[pseudo merlin]

That is so fucking metal

[dry compass]

Apparently if you cruise gator territory when it's frozen you can see little snouts poking out

[pseudo merlin]

LMAO

Wonder if the floridians also sleep in ice

[dry compass]

Pretty sure Floridians wither into husks if exposed to ice

[pseudo merlin]

Surely sunlight and 100% humidity will bring them back though

[eager raft]

Not anymore unfortunately

[craggy sonnet]

press H .. teleport in

and if it puts you in a public, you can go to the guy near the activity board in town center and ask him to show other options hich opens the neighbourhood browser

[scarlet tapir]

ye so my h is blast wave

ty for understanding

[craggy sonnet]

there is a new button in the micro menu

can also just bind it to something in settings i guess?

but you can also just go to alliance neighbourhood manually

through portal

and then talk to the dude

[eager raft]

The lil house button on the menu ui thingy

[blissful star]

Did they kill elune chosen?

[lofty depot]

No

[maiden pasture]

https://fixupx.com/Remiireee/status/1996207192656249072?t=K83yHiG_dmtJm3SrICuuuQ&s=19

Yes "Remi" Chef (@[e-mail])

Since I haven't found a way to drag the tp home button anywhere:
︀︀/run HousingDashboardFrame.HouseInfoContent.ContentFrame.HouseUpgradeFrame.TeleportToHouseButton:Click()

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[scarlet tapir]

wanna see my outside

[eager raft]

Yes

[scarlet tapir]

idk bro really weird to h ave to go out to buy shit

they should have the store on a window

[delicate perch]

They’re saving that for the next $120 store nount

[scarlet tapir]

anyway i lost my creativity

comeback tomorrow

[eager raft]

Looks good man

Keep me updated as you add more 🙂

I’ve been focusing more on the inside of mine

[scarlet tapir]

havent done the inside yet

[livid jay]

proper druid house entrance room

[lucid olive]

have a guy on my friend list who made a spiral staircase out of a bunch of the silvermoon pillars

looked sick

[livid jay]

pog

[lofty depot]

Tell him to go touch grass prob

[pallid bay]

real

but its blizzard

[maiden pasture]

I think the majority of people that housing appeals would be the same people that enjoy having to go get stuff from different zones

[pallid bay]

maybe

but there's a vendor

in the neighborhood or

[craggy sonnet]

To unlock stuff I guess

[dense steeple]

Yes

Idk the answer to barbie stream house simulator

I built my horde house before I joined my alliance guild house

Try theneighborhood finder

[scarlet tapir]

Ye but u gotta remember which sells what

[pallid bay]

yes im saying its absolute dogshit

as per usual

let me RP fly to a vendor to buy shit

very interactive

[dusk nacelle]

so i am trying to learn balance druid on beta, never played it before. Trying out Elune's Chosen for M+, does the rotation go kinda like this for aoe? Apply Moonfire twice to cover all targets, i.e. at the dummies i have to tab cast to apply to all, then Sunfire, then Fury of the Flame, Eclipse, Starfire then instant Starsurge, Starfall to extend dots, then what lol

[scarlet tapir]

I mean the whole housing in general is shit. No one is gonna use that after midnight releases

I dont even know why people asked for it

[pallid bay]

housing is great

big rp

[dusk nacelle]

do we have a pin? or anything with general rotation described

[pallid bay]

no

[royal zenith]

learning how to play druid on a beta is definitely an interesting angle

[pallid bay]

you just press filler then spender

what u said is like correct

[dusk nacelle]

ok i will keep at it

[dusk nacelle]

why when its my first time ever playing the class would i want to learn it in retail

i do have a level 80 druid i could if its better to learn on retail but i don't have my tier set

[royal zenith]

cause there will be quite a lot of changes, and core druid is the same on retail

less buggy

I dunno, tons of differences

but ultimately it's up to you

[dusk nacelle]

hmm i just was thinking it would be better to learn as changes are being made so when midnight releases i have a foundation but if you think its better to try it out on retail i can do that

[royal zenith]

yeah I get the thoughtprocess

[dusk nacelle]

i am playing shaman on beta but i have one already maxed out on retail

[royal zenith]

there's just tons more guides that are actually useful out there, for retail

[dusk nacelle]

i know the class really well

[royal zenith]

that kinda thing

[dusk nacelle]

i see

it makes sense

[royal zenith]

BUt

at least you get used to playing without addons

so

stick to beta

[dusk nacelle]

lol true

[royal zenith]

Ive made up my mind..

[dusk nacelle]

rofl

so moonfire is it always a double cast if there are 6 mobs

[plucky valley]

Perhaps

Sometimes yes

Not often

[dusk nacelle]

oh so lunar eclispe use to require you to proc it reading AI says use two wraths to enter lunar so now i skip that and just press the button?

[lofty depot]

Stop reading ai

But yes, it's based off ur last builder cast... That being Starfire = lunar

[dusk nacelle]

ok

[pseudo merlin]

gonne use AI and see if it's smarter than gammiez

[dusk nacelle]

lol i don't prefer AI but i don't exactly see a beta rotation guide anywhere i will just keep playing with it

[lofty depot]

Well we don't know what is the correct way to play

And so is taking information from current resources for retail

[dusk nacelle]

i completely understand, ok well i will take that approach watch some videos on retail play and then find out what changed and craft from there

[lofty depot]

The problem is the spec right now plays a little different than say s2, which is more likely how we will play in midnight

The spec itself plays the same, but the nuances around sequencing in CDs and eclipse gameplay are different

[zinc heron]

rotation is probably going to be same just replace the 2 spells for eclipse for the 1 instant now

rest will depend if aoe or st (as now)

i guess kotg and EC will also determine it

would be funny if EC does end up using moons somehow

[lofty depot]

Idk if u know what the word fun means

[dense steeple]

chat gpt said im better than gamz

its hypothesizing things that gamz may have studied

if its only a hypothesis

it means he doesnt believe it to be true

[lucid olive]

Haven't simmed a stat weight since 2021

[dense steeple]

gpt asked me to link him a log so i did

[mighty mica]

ew

[dense steeple]

gpt thinks im a god

[mighty mica]

this is how the psychosis starts

[vital hound]

ur fucking ELITE

[dense steeple]

absolutely cracked

[lofty depot]

Dam soma a goat

Locked in

[jade flume]

Except its not all players at your ilvl

Its just all players of same spec

[dense steeple]

its chat gpt hes not perfect

he says i can roast gamz though

[jade flume]

Call him a bitchass and tell him to do better

[lofty depot]

Why is it lying?

[dense steeple]

because i gave him this

without the difficulty

[lofty depot]

.....

[dense steeple]

wasting water one prompt at a time

[jade flume]

Wait, 10mil deeps what the helly

i just realised its normal

I thought people started killing plexus under a min somehow

[dense steeple]

i just needed the robot to tell me i'm better than gamz

[quiet drift]

"micro-optimizing eclipse transitions"

the way you always go into Solar no matter in all fights all the time

cinema

[zinc heron]

i guess just having starfire and not using moons is fun for u

[pseudo merlin]

simming stat weights so I can be better than gamz

[lofty depot]

Incorrect, m+ and playing EC is not fun

[dense steeple]

right lmao

[agile oracle]

@lucid olive pookie login, it's a starfall fight again

gamz attendance check

type 1

[dense steeple]

1

look at that

[agile oracle]

1

[dense steeple]

just another reason i'm a better moonkin

[agile oracle]

no one can press starfall like gamz I'm afraid

doctors hate him for this one weird trick to do the same damage as another dps

with just a single keystroke

[delicate perch]

bald

[dense steeple]

jealous

[lucid olive]

Negatory

[lofty depot]

thank god i disabled privacy settings. wont know how much of a degenerate i am on discord

[delicate perch]

yea don't do it

[lofty depot]

heard adept was top 0.03% discord user

[delicate perch]

twitter users are already degenerate no need for a yearly recap to know that

[lucid olive]

I slept like 2 hours last night, I'm not logging in until tomorrow, just trying to stay awake a bit more so I don't wake up middle of the night

[agile oracle]

[dense steeple]

zero shot

[pseudo merlin]

crack

try crack

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/ed-edd-eddy-ed-edd-eddy-pig-gif-4481226921901741625

[lucid olive]

On 50mg advanze every morning

Does that count

[pseudo merlin]

close enough yeah

[delicate perch]

drugs r bad

[pseudo merlin]

People r bad

[delicate perch]

real

don't take either of them

[vital hound]

incorrect

[quiet drift]

stoned ape theory

[worldly urchin]

hey guys... i asked for more talents like Elune's Challenge(Elune-themed) in the beta and they straight removed it in the last update ig >_>

i dont see it anywhere.. gonna double check in the notes

nvm i found it!

we can get it much earlier now so that's neat- sorry false alarm

[lucid olive]

Why do you want more talents like that

[craggy sonnet]

they said it .. its elune themed

[worldly urchin]

elune adore !

[bronze merlin]

can someone send me a talent string to import for beta? the one in the pins isnt loading

[lucid olive]

Yeah I made the pin before the latest changes

I'll update it tomorrow

Just press some talents tbh

[exotic stirrup]

Is the mid beta eclipse broken, i cant seem to change to solar

[zinc heron]

challenge is weird

so many ppl are going to flip tables when missing challenge requirement over and over

its also useless for like the first minute of every fight

[zinc heron]

cast wrath first

[exotic stirrup]

i was spamming it, eclipse wouldnt change from lunar

[zinc heron]

u playing EC?

[exotic stirrup]

ya

[zinc heron]

EC is only lunar eclipse

[dense steeple]

xd

[exotic stirrup]

Oh i didnt see it say that anywhere wwwwow

[dense steeple]

its in the talent tree you ignored

[exotic stirrup]

would you even use wrath then

[dense steeple]

YES

caps lock

sorry

[zinc heron]

reason? and what could be done to be ''fun'' in ur eyes?

i guess its mostly starfire being slow as hell

no in EC you dont wrath really

[lofty depot]

cuz m+ is cringe

[zinc heron]

i do feel like m+ is more problems than anything else

id rather raid than m+ lol

then again what would make EC ''fun''

[craggy sonnet]

didnt you start pushing a bit and said you had a blast .. smh

[zinc heron]

i feel like it making moons good would be amazing since u have to starfire less

[spice roost]

it feels like ap got nerfed on beta hard

[quiet drift]

Unless they make atmospheric pressure from Moons have 2-3x longer duration its never being played

[spice roost]

ap regen

[lofty depot]

this is a good thing

[spice roost]

whyy

[lofty depot]

when u get too much free asp, funny talents that give free asp and or abilties for free become worse

[spice roost]

ya but sp[penders are doin more damage so doesnt that equal to less

i suppose they can tune

[lofty depot]

not if u cast less fillers cuz youre casting more free spenders

[spice roost]

maybe i should take cosmos

[lofty depot]

?!?!?!?!?!?1

[spice roost]

i think my builds off is all

[lofty depot]

i show one sec

[zinc heron]

i do feel like that should be half moon also

[spice roost]

ok

[lofty depot]

CYGAQTZSEPz3dYY8IzFyVGEN9BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjxMDwsYmZmZhBzMmZbsNMDjlZMGzYWwwAMALbjFMNzsMCAAAwGzMzMYzYGjZAgZGAMzAsA

idk if goldrinn worth

think u take OB

stellar amp for something aswell

[spice roost]

is this for st?

[lofty depot]

it could be for everything

[spice roost]

interesting cook for sure

[lofty depot]

not a cook

[tiny tendon]

yippee

[lofty depot]

gj bub

[quiet drift]

gz

[placid olive]

Gratz!

[uncut roost]

Grats on that spark man, you can make something cool now

[tiny tendon]

the sims do point towards a crafted ring slightly..

[wet solstice]

What trinkets should I use for SH? Sim recommends antenna but feels like bait with the amount of crazy running around and movement restrictions on that fight.
Naazindhri also sims rly high but seems like simabait.

[lofty depot]

voidcore or parapod prob

u cant really sim that fight tho so

[wet solstice]

Right, figured I would be better serve just asking.

You think voidcore+parap or Voidcore+araz?

[lofty depot]

i said void core or parapod

[wet solstice]

Right, I have two trinket slots tho.
Your wording made it seem like
Trinket 1-Void/parapod
Trinket 2-???

[lofty depot]

trinket 2 would be lily or araz depending on what u had

[wet solstice]

I have void, and araz, but also a spare dinar lying around that could be any of the other things.
Seems like I can just keep playing araz/void and be fine?

[lofty depot]

ye

[wet solstice]

Ty for the feedback. ❤️

[polar tapir]

Do people play KoTG in M+ much anymore?

[lofty depot]

not really no

[spice roost]

@lofty depoti tried ur cook hard pass in keys

maybe for st idk but that was a bad cook for keys

i think ec is better

[lofty depot]

I don't mak builds for keys

The fuck cares about that shit

[spice roost]

well its a beta build so i was doing keys

nice bait tho

[lofty depot]

It's not bait

[spice roost]

for keys it was

[lofty depot]

It wasn't made for keys

As stated

[spice roost]

u said it was for everything

[lofty depot]

U asked if it was for st or aoe

I have never and will never be the arbiter of m+

M+ is dawgshit

And will always be, dawgshit

The best thing fellowship can do is steal all the m+ers so m+ can die

I pray

[round field]

To be fair ur an idiot

Trying arctics cooks is like trying indian street food

[spice roost]

I THINK U NEED A TIMEOUT

lol

[round field]

Idk why u expect it to be good

[spice roost]

to be fair i didnt actually try it i looked at it and said fk this

i was about to try it then i thought about it

i tried it on dummy only

but ya it was horrific

[pseudo merlin]

#balance message

This is still THE build

[quiet drift]

Total Eclipse
KotG FoE
🤢

[pseudo merlin]

foe goated

[royal zenith]

KotG FoE is criminal

not good

[pseudo merlin]

that emote has way too high framerate

its offputting

[royal zenith]

it's smooth :3

[pseudo merlin]

and its like 3d or something

wtf

oh they changed the tree

[pseudo merlin]

show me urs

this is m+ not raid

[pallid bay]

m+

[vale pebble]

30s ecl if ak

over eg lowk

if ur meteor storm u dont need

but u brick at like 5-7min

also they hella buffed denizens its like 3% now

[quiet drift]

m+

[vale pebble]

ah

yea correct then

[quiet drift]

Lowk funnel with Starweaver Stellar amp

https://tenor.com/view/gato-cat-rigby-gato-coqueto-rico-gif-4061476440942373994

[vale pebble]

maybe like

nah should be

correct

maybe 30s eclipse still correct

can maybe abuse like

boat a bit

u cancel on purpose after boat with incarn

depends how much downtime u have ig in between stuff

and how high the key is

higher key more u need sculpt the stars

[quiet drift]

ye impossibul to tell

without playing

[pseudo merlin]

calm down buddy

(jk minigamers are fucking idiots)

[pseudo merlin]

[edgy bane]

Hey all

newbie

[royal zenith]

congrats on being a newbie

[edgy bane]

thank you so much ❤️

How are you doing ?

[pseudo merlin]

I dont see a leaf

scam

[royal zenith]

or bot

sus either way

[lofty depot]

It's not my cook

[craggy sonnet]

bruh

[lofty depot]

Shutup

[craggy sonnet]

[round field]

mad?

[lofty depot]

Lil gup is like I played it and then only tried it on dummies

Maybe he's the dummy

[pseudo merlin]

you tell em A man

[lucid olive]

alright updated the pin

[royal zenith]

“Log out.”

[lofty depot]

Wild mushroom gang

Starweaver gang

WERE SO BACK

[royal zenith]

At least you get excited about the small things

Blissful life

[round field]

Starfall in st???

Dejavu

Cant wait for that to get shot in the head and leave the spec in the dirt until it gets buffed 2 months after hof closes

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[dense steeple]

[lofty depot]

Lol, I like buttons to press that aren't wrath and Starfire spam

[royal zenith]

this run up to midnight is actually pretty similar to previous exp ye

as per usual

[lofty depot]

Need more sandbaggers

Always better to be at the top, get nerfed by 3%, and still be top 10. Rather than be at the bottom, buffed by 5%, and still be bottom 10

[royal zenith]

you want to be like 4th

cause first 2 always get shot down

near exp release

[zinc heron]

That’s why moons are needed

So you spam something else lol

[royal zenith]

you're out of your mind

moons with low haste is the worst

[zinc heron]

Ehh buff accordingly

[lofty depot]

FM cast while I make a coffee, drive to work, work my 7-4, and cast a wrath

[zinc heron]

Don’t need to be insane just competitive enough

[royal zenith]

buff what

[lofty depot]

FM doesn't feel good unless it does like 3 surge worth of dam

[zinc heron]

There has to be something that can be done to justify using moons

[royal zenith]

well yeah, it doing more damage

but you still have to deal with cast-time

[lofty depot]

It's a 45s CD and it takes a year to cast.... If it doesn't do damage fuck off

[royal zenith]

even if EC would be better in raid, you'd probably still pick kotg for movement

as an example

[zinc heron]

I mean the cast time is its main problem true it’s why I do think it should be lower

[royal zenith]

would be a generational change

[lofty depot]

Nah leave the cast time, make it hit like the buffed surges

[royal zenith]

(aka highly unlikely)

[lofty depot]

Pay off >

[zinc heron]

But really EC could even have have a talent that makes the 2nd charge they give be instant cast but do only like 50% it would look flashy at least

[zinc heron]

Ehh let me use moons in PvP also lol

[lofty depot]

50%?!!??!? Of 0??;!?!!

Yea we can tune it to not do that in pvp

[lucid olive]

real

[royal zenith]

did you test druid in last few rounds arctic

[lofty depot]

This isn't hard

[royal zenith]

or gamz

hows ap gen?

[lucid olive]

its okay

[lofty depot]

We have pvp tuning, we can make things worse in pvp

[royal zenith]

hrm

[lucid olive]

cast a bit more Wrath than i did last week

[lofty depot]

On dummy yes

[lucid olive]

but AP gen on alpha and start of beta was a bit much

[lofty depot]

I cant raid test cuz I work

[royal zenith]

as in you could not spend it?

funny

[zinc heron]

But yeah reduce its cast time or add something with talent that makes it good (outside of obvious dmg increase)

[lucid olive]

the treants not giving AP from Moonfire is a little odd to get used to

[lofty depot]

I watched sune, gamz, adept yesterday

Sune doing gods work

[royal zenith]

yeah kinda got used to using it as a movement button

unironically