The floor is yours
#balance
pseudo merlin
pseudo merlin
but like
do you think it's peak because it is compared to how it was before but not necessarily good or as good as you'd want it to be
or are you genuinely like
"this is it"
like I dont genuinely think moonkin is in a shit state rn
but i would very much like to play around moons again
Or have like one other thing to do
vale pebble
"this is it"
this is it
theres some
talents that are tuned bad in comparison to eachother
but its legit not far
vale pebble
like u double meteorites it becomes an actively good talent in its niche
(damage)
its very much not far
its .8 in its niche which is a bit subpar for its gate
ec is very far behind
ec needs hella help
pseudo merlin
its still played in keys atm atleast
vale pebble
i just mean beta
pseudo merlin
I've never minded playing EC in keys and KOTG in raid
vale pebble
dont care about live thats irrelevant
vale pebble
ec theres the oi build
which on paper is supposed to fuck
but the ec numbers are just low
and the required talents for it
are just tuned poorly
like u need the whole foe firmament package
because moons are also tuned shit
pseudo merlin
yeah
vale pebble
meaning that if u cant play moons to guarantee exposure
u need to play foe and its whole package to guarantee it
goldrin is tuned really high
which makes it good in some oi aoe builds as well
and u crank st
prio dmg
without much loss
because u can go stellar amplification
and ur shs cranks
pseudo merlin
yeah I noticed that on first pull in AA
fossil hemlock
Do we know yet if the 4p counts as an actual shooting star, or is it just flavour?
vale pebble
meteor storm kindling node
is the best shit they have ever done
u peak so high
too bad dryad is most of that with eclipse overwrite
but meteor storm feels so good
because kindling forces u to cycle eclipse on cd
to not waste dmg on ur falls
cause u dump 4 falls start
u pool up
and u will inevitably need to dump
at 4s or below
meaning that u would waste fall uptime outside of eclipse
with meteor storm u can dump at 5s and clip ur whole eclipse with fall
and u can be 0ap
when u end
but u get so much ap from shs u only need 2 starfires out of eclipse cycle
sometimes 3
with meteor storm its 2 cause u need to redot
and u waste 2 globals time there
with shs ticking
idk its peak
i have mostly no complaints with how it plays
maybe gut ap gen a bit more in aoe
with ec its too hard to keep up
with the ap gen
pseudo merlin
its very fucking high
ok maybe you have me convinced
playing this rn, not sure if celestial fire is worthj
pseudo merlin
keys
pseudo merlin
yeah NB can go into double eclipse
forgot I had NB
still think that should be baseline but w/e
vale pebble
meteorites shit
for keys
eg is not that good
u dont have points to spare for that
pseudo merlin
right there's enough asp anyway
vale pebble
not sure if u want firmament
maybe u do
maybe u dont
does less dmg but more consistent exposure
but yea if u want to do dmg
kotg is way higher
cause of dryad starfall
also on st cycling eclipses
is actual peak
pseudo merlin
I havent even looked at beta KOTG yet
vale pebble
u can do so many things with cycling
pseudo merlin
is dryad built into KOTG now?
vale pebble
is dryad built into KOTG now?
yes
fossil hemlock
Just regular dryad though, not the supercharge surge one
pseudo merlin
right
vale pebble
u want to play something like this
and u have 2 points to play with from here
denizens pretty bad
foe pretty bad
goldrin pretty good just depends how much surge u cast
sotf pretty ok
-2s eclipse is ok if u overwrite a bit
communion is a worse eg but feels better
on ec i would play it on kotg probably not
jsut cause ec is so tough
if u play kindling u want to take -2s eclipse
and u dont want ng
if u play meteor storm u want ng probably
and dont want -2s
meteor storm probably play eg
spec is peak
has so many niches
u can do so many things
vale pebble
pallid bay
pseudo merlin
never
pseudo merlin
so positive
so positive
round field
hes ragebaiting btw
dense steeple
I miss chicken chicken
twin lotus
wdym cycling eclipses?
using their first half to generate big and making sure u dump before they run out?
also what is drayd eclipse override
is it stronger if u pop eclipse before CA?
round field
dont fall for chicken ragebait
twin lotus
fr though, being freed from having to dot stuff to do dmg to them is so nice
pseudo merlin
am I crazy, I cant see the outer edge of my starfall
vale pebble
but otherwise there arent really massive gameplay changes
ur dumb
vale pebble
stop rage rage bait baiting
vale pebble
is coming for u
round field
is complete yoke
vale pebble
what downsides me say
go ahead mate
what downside me say
go queue up aram with kenya maybe
round field
"u want to play something like this
and u have 2 points to play with from here
denizens pretty bad
foe pretty bad
goldrin pretty good just depends how much surge u cast
sotf pretty ok
-2s eclipse is ok if u overwrite a bit
communion is a worse eg but feels better
on ec i would play it on kotg probably not
jsut cause ec is so tough
if u play kindling u want to take -2s eclipse
and u dont want ng
if u play meteor storm u want ng probably
and dont want -2s"
"i have 28 talent points but the other 2 dont matter cause all the options are dogshit"
vale pebble
all of those are good
round field
all of those are good
denizens pretty bad
foe pretty bad
vale pebble
yes pretty bad compared to ur best talents
nice ragebait
go queue aram mate
only thing u can do nowadays anyways
round field
stop ragebaiting
twin lotus
I also dont understand how you are finding it peak, isnt the gameplay pretty much the same?
vale pebble
indeed
twin lotus
so, did casting eclipse before CA, make the dryad stronger?
vale pebble
it shouldnt?
clueless buzzer
round field
is that a beta thing
vale pebble
mate if i go look at it its probably also a live thing
but it only matters on beta
because eclipses matter
and are strong
round field
u press ca u spawn dryad
vale pebble
u press eclipse
u get solar/lunar bolt
u spawn dryad
dryad cast starfall
starfall is nuclear modifier for some reason
all pets are nuclear
u press incarn
maybe ur starfall gets buffed from first dryad idk
u get solar lunar bolt again
u get another starfall
from dryad
vale pebble
he has literally no clue what any of the changes are
twin lotus
ah yes, the 300% spell power starfall
vale pebble
indeed mate
twin lotus
do you spawn 2 dryads on CA ? or does it count as 1 eclipse
fossil hemlock
300% effectiveness starfall*
fossil hemlock
Normal starfall without mods is 201.6% over 8 seconds
twin lotus
300% effectiveness starfall*
yes, used wrong word 😛
fuck it, boomkin ultra burst, eclipse eclipse ca ca
vale pebble
u can
but u need to cycle a lunar and a solar
and u cant ca over ca
u can only solar over lunar or vice versa
or ca over lunar or solar
pseudo merlin
When you lunar over solar or the other way around, i don't suppose it retains the first?
giving you mini ca
vale pebble
it doesnt
just deletes other
not sure if like
harmony stays or something
probably not
pseudo merlin
unlikely
vale pebble
but its very much not worth to double eclipse
twin lotus
yeah, missing out on the ascendant stuff
the solar/lunar bolts feel kinda useless ngl
would be nice if they did some more dmg or gave AP
fossil hemlock
lunar bolts should do a lot on stacked cleave
twin lotus
I wonder if we are going to have big variance if we play total eclipse
a pull where you only get double eclipses
vale pebble
the solar/lunar bolts feel kinda useless ngl
wat they are really good
vale pebble
I wonder if we are going to have big variance if we play total eclipse
total eclipse is like
6% dmg
when u proc it
maybe a bit more
8% max when u proc it
u do like 55-60% astral in aoe
twin lotus
should be fine then, no way solar bolt is good
vale pebble
and its a 15% amp
vale pebble
should be fine then, no way solar bolt is good
solar bolt is really op
:/
lunar is the worse one of the two
maiden pasture
are u gonna be bamkin main in midnight chicken or just a fan of the changes?
or undecided
lofty depot
Chicken can't play dps because all his eelers suck
vale pebble
Chicken can't play dps because all his eelers suck
ur wrong mate ive not progged on healer in the last 2 tiers
lofty depot
What the
eager raft
@royal zenith I am switching to bamkin wanna coach me
round field
ur wrong mate ive not progged on healer in the last 2 tiers
blue logging on aug does not count as being able to play dps
vale pebble
blue logging on aug does not count as being able to play dps
have i stated that?
does grey logging on balance druid do?
craggy sonnet
Chicken while typing this stuff up in the last two hours
royal zenith
<@182925977935020032> I am switching to bamkin wanna coach me
I can't
I'm mid at the game
only know how to play in theory
eager raft
cobalt pumice
what does everyone use when building talents and working out what stats to prioritize... ive got 3 different builds now..and 2 websites im tracking for best boomy on all realms/servers xD I need an actual boomy to tell me what im doing wrong
lofty depot
Keeper ur playing around ur buffed surges so u want mastery and vers/crit...
EC ur trying to cast as many starfires as possible so mastery haste
But u should always sim yourself
quiet drift
People have acess to different items and have different levels of care for maintaining their character
pseudo merlin
🕵️
royal zenith
I still have raidbuff from last week when I login..
round field
I still have raidbuff from last week when I login..
1 cauldron lasts me 2 raid nights
vale pebble
1 cauldron lasts me 2 raid nights
quiet drift
buff smolder
Cant wait to buy Pure crit boes next expac
vale pebble
maiden pasture
buff smolder
I have 225 stacks GG
pseudo merlin
dude
Meteor storm DOES NOT go well with pugs that bodypull
I died like 9 times due to tank being unable to do shit
lament sigil
I still have raidbuff from last week when I login..
No pash
spice roost
@lucid oliveim kinda lost what build are u running on beta for keys
lucid olive
I just press N to open talents and then click some shit
spice roost
ya i dont believe that but okj
lucid olive
Just remember FoE and RM and Sundered Firmament for EC and Treants for Keeper, the rest is whatever
What would I need to play an optimized build for
spice roost
ok
lucid olive
It's beta
spice roost
i saw before u gave ravec a build i cant seem to find it
lofty depot
i saw before u gave ravec a build i cant seem to find it
Scrolled like 2 times. Locken
pseudo merlin
I wanna one day just type a random string of characters and have someone repeatedly attempt to import it
pseudo merlin
i saw before u gave ravec a build i cant seem to find it
he never gave me shit
dude used to be a homie but he changed
These are the things I clicked on
did a 15 skyreach was gg ez
spice roost
ty
lofty depot
These are the things I clicked on
Gj testing on the beta
pseudo merlin
Thanks bromie
I had a wild interaction at city hall today
Went to export my car from Romania to Italy, I asked them "so how does this work, do I get a 1 week or 1 month temporary export insurance" and they just tell me nah you keep the one you already have on the car, but we're not sure if it's valid across the border, but good luck though 🙂
lucid olive
Template mythic+ builds to try on beta
Remember that the beta is for testing purposes so you can just open your talent page and go nuts, but if you don't have the patience for it, here are some very basic examples:
The following talent code imports likely will be outdated with every weekly beta patch, that is why there is a small paragraph underneath to act as guidelines for testing your own builds
EC: CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjZmB8AmFmZmBjZYWmZZmFmZsMWmZZMmhNMMAjltZGMmtRgJAAAALMzDMzgNjZMmBAAmZwMDA
The mandatory points for EC (that aren't pathing nodes) are Fury of Elune, Radiant Moonlight, Sundered Firmament and Whirling Stars, the rest you can pick and choose based on preference and trying stuff out.
KOTG: CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjZmB8AmFmZmBjZMzyMLjlZMjNWmxYMDLYYAGgltxGmmZWGBAAAYjZegZGsZMjxMAwMDAmZAA
Mandatory points are Treants (duh) and Whirling Stars, the rest you can pick and choose yourself based on pathing and what makes sense. The build above takes active Wild Mushroom, but you can remove this for anything else if you want.
General notes:
Starweaver is performing very good after buffs to Shooting Stars doubling down on the Hail of Stars + Solstice feedback loop. Orbit Breaker is also performing well for the same reason. The buff to Meteorites together with baseline Starfall damage makes Starfall a better spender on ST. The recent nerf to AP generation also increases the value of Starweaver.
There are 100% better builds to take than these two examples, but they are good enough to get you started
lucid olive
**Template mythic+ builds to try on beta**
Remember that the beta is for testin...
are u guys happy now
pseudo merlin
I'm not
lucid olive
can tell people to go read pins next time
woven flint
no
woven flint
only happy when brother rave gets his italian car insurance
pseudo merlin
Thanks
I think I'm just going to wing it and try to not get in an accident
It's only like 1800km
lucid olive
Why can't we be friends
?
lucid olive
its literally your name
tribal vale
are u guys happy now
no i need a picture too im a visual learner
lucid olive
unfortunate
woven flint
unfortunate
raid talent in pin when
lucid olive
maybe before next testing
pseudo merlin
Be a sigma and play KOTG without trees
You don't need trees for your dryads anyway
tribal vale
play moons
loud kettle
are u guys happy now
you gave in.
lucid olive
yeah
loud kettle
you're not the same anymore
lofty depot
you love telling people to read pins
Tell people to play the game and use their brain too
pseudo merlin
Tell people to play the game and use their brain too
wrong discord
pseudo merlin
I mean there's probably a lot of people that are testing out new specs and have no knowledge on them
Think it's fair to ask for something to go off of in that case
Since you probably have 0 knowledge of the spec
People like me who had their specs butchered by the bad blizzard man
spring pagoda
nah, just use your brain bro
lofty depot
If I looked at boomkin talents on live, then saw the talent changes there's like 4 different talents u can choose to change or not
U could even very easily choose to take basically the same talents
Look at funny izen video
Blud vibbing
Massive
lucid olive
yeah those are raid talents
pseudo merlin
ah
lofty depot
Big UI gamer
lucid olive
only differences i would make is take out umbral embrace and elunes challenge and the 2 sec CDR on Eclipse
and take 2 points in total eclipse and orbit breaker
lucid olive
yeah none of those matters
zinc heron
If I looked at boomkin talents on live, then saw the talent changes there's like...
It’s sad
lofty depot
We actually have more build diversity just those 4 talents are likely closer than u would think
But 
I gotta play the best talents no matter what
pseudo merlin
Just play what you find fun
tell me whats fun please
lucid olive
havoc
pseudo merlin
glaives or tattoos?
lofty depot
tell me whats fun please
Doing damage with starfall
lucid olive
glaive
pseudo merlin
Doing damage with starfall
not wrong tbh
as soon as you're done setting up a pull and pop that CA
and just shit out 7 SFs in a row
holy
zinc heron
Doing damage with starfall
If only it wasn’t so slow lol
lucid olive
and just shit out 7 SFs in a row
stellar flares? those got removed
lofty depot
If only it wasn’t so slow lol
There's a talent for that
quiet drift
tell me whats fun please
pseudo merlin
stellar flares? those got removed
pseudo merlin
thanks biscotti
zinc heron
There's a talent for that
I mean the build up to get a lot of starfalls
I do wish moons were a real build
lucid olive
you should be at nearly capped AP just from spreading moonfire on the pack
you're talking about slow and then naming moons after as if full moon isn't the slowest spell in existence
and also is worthless in aoe
lofty depot
Well if adds are coming out and u prepped properly it's not slow
Should've pooled, smh
lucid olive
isnt that the point of a builder spender spec
zinc heron
A lot of the time things are dying already and you feel like half the starfalls did nothing
zinc heron
isnt that the point of a builder spender spec
Yes it’s the point but don’t mean it don’t feel “slow”
lofty depot
A lot of the time things are dying already and you feel like half the starfalls ...
Well that's now with ur funny 8s Starfall that needs dots on targets to do damage
zinc heron
Then again has always kinda been the problem with balance Druid lol, that and multidoting hell
lofty depot
In midnight my Starfall blasts
lofty depot
Then again has always kinda been the problem with balance Druid lol, that and mu...
Wasn't always the problem, no
lucid olive
Then again has always kinda been the problem with balance Druid lol, that and mu...
putting up dots and building for Starfall is like 90% of the spec
idk man
if you think those are problems then maybe its not the spec for you
lofty depot
Sometimes u didn't Starfall til w.e it was 8 targets
zinc heron
I try to see it both as pve and PvP so maybe that’s why I see it as “problems”
lofty depot
Yea maybe don't look at pvp
zinc heron
It’s why I do wish moons was good lol
zinc heron
Ehhh it’s a part of the game
lofty depot
It's not
zinc heron
PvP is literally the other half of the genre, wow problem with PvP was that addons gave ppl so much advantage it was kinda impossible to play without them
lofty depot
It was once a fun part of the game
pseudo merlin
the other half of the genre?
lofty depot
It's not half of the game tho
zinc heron
the other half of the genre?
PvE and PvP without both a MMO is kinda meh
lofty depot
Tell that to osrs
pseudo merlin
That's an opinion
One that I agree with
But like 95% of people do not
People don't want pvp
zinc heron
I do agree that WoW PvP is a shadow of what it was
lofty depot
That's razy
zinc heron
And that it’s an omega hard entry point
lofty depot
So trying to take objective opinions on how the class should be cuz of pvp is cringe
zinc heron
But specs should still take both PvE and PvP into consideration
lofty depot
The pvpers are the reason we don't have Orbital Strike on a separate button
pseudo merlin
REAL
lofty depot
Little rat cry babies
zinc heron
lol
dense steeple
delete pvp
you wanna pvp? go to a pvp tourney style realm
get that shit off live servers
lofty depot
Real
zinc heron
Have always played on PvP server so lol
lofty depot
World pvp is dead unless I need rep for my augment rune
pseudo merlin
well you suddenly lost everyone you could fight against
surely it wasnt whatever
open world died instantly
zinc heron
Not on malganis, being alliance in a horde dominant PvP server has always been fun
pseudo merlin
Ok sure I guess if you're on the wrong side of a heavily one side dominated realm
zinc heron
Nothing like wotlk and wintergrasp to do the raid
Everyone forced to do that 1-3 hours of world PvP
lofty depot
Except if u were on a dominated faction server u knew u weren't getting winter grasp at peak raid hours
pseudo merlin
I dont think wintergrasp ever took more than 20 minutes
its been like 16 years so maybe im wrong idk
was fun though
zinc heron
Except if u were on a dominated faction server u knew u weren't getting winter g...
Yeah had to do sneaky wins lol
zinc heron
I dont think wintergrasp ever took more than 20 minutes
It did a lot of times if ppl actually defended
But yeah it’s 1 of my main problems of hero talents: there are clear nodes that are for PvP that are useless in pve and some nodes that completely do nothing in PvP like for gods sakes make nodes that are good for both
pseudo merlin
ok but you have like 14 nodes
they dont all need to or can do everything for everyone
pvp, pve, raid, m+
for 2 specs
?
zinc heron
Actually you can tailor those nodes, they have already done it, hell you can make a node do different things for each spec
lofty depot
Which hero talents are clear pvp talents
lofty depot
Smh
zinc heron
For balance in EC: glistening fur is clearly a bear node that stayed on boomkin side or a pure PvP node for boomkin
Moon dust/elune grace is 100% a PvP node for balance
There’s no way you can sell that as pve node
lofty depot
It says moonkin form and is just defensive magic dr
lofty depot
Moon dust/elune grace is 100% a PvP node for balance
Is that the slow?
zinc heron
Is that the slow?
Yes
zinc heron
Kiting what?
spice roost
mobs in keys
lofty depot
The spiders on arakara silly
zinc heron
wtf you kiting as boomkin….
pseudo merlin
Wait we're not actually arguing that defensive nodes are pvp ?
lofty depot
They run at u
pseudo merlin
are we
zinc heron
Come on be honest lol
lofty depot
I am
pseudo merlin
?
You dont want access to some kind of slow?
How about the mobs in triumvirate first boss
zinc heron
It’s niche in pve and you know it
pseudo merlin
how about the spawns on windy dungeon 3rd boss
what
I don't even see how that defeats the argument
lofty depot
🤝
pseudo merlin
Delete frost mage
zinc heron
No, it should exist my point is that those nodes from a pve point truly could’ve been better
spice roost
who tf cares about pvp its a abandoned gameplay
lofty depot
Him
spice roost
LOL
zinc heron
The charge node in EC (the one with the slow as the other choice) is also effy
lofty depot
It's also a good way to see if ur boomkin research 🙂
zinc heron
lol
lofty depot
Grim batol dispel big
sturdy crescent
My sims for moonking is always making me go crt mastery. Is that ok? Do i want the 30% haste cap? Im so confused. Ilvl is 728 almost all bis
round field
there is no 30% haste cap
sturdy crescent
After 30% u do start losing value. First is -10% then is -20%. In haste.
Im literally looking at it from my True Stat Value Addon
crimson helm
Don't be confused 🙂 Crit Mastery Vers is super strong this tier due to our tier set, basically every Stat that we don't put into our strong Surges critting hard is somewhat considered wasted at this point.
plucky valley
You just have to do the simmy simyyyyyyyyy hmmmmmmm the simyyyyyyyyyyyyuuuuhhhggggg
crimson helm
That's why Haste sims so low with or without breakpoint.
You could do an argument that you need some haste for proper casts before movement, but your Wraths are already fast and you can practise every encounter to play around ap gen before movement, so just go with what your sim says, the rest is about playing your burst properly and coordinating you rotation around movement phases (nothing new, I suppose), even with low haste. Dots ticking faster as a breakpoint is also no argument ofc, they don't matter that much ;P
TL;DR, you sim is probably correct and you should listen to it ^^
sturdy crescent
Ill deff try it out tonight at raid. Tho I’m at -20% mastery from break points and wondering if i should transfer that in to vers. Does mastery weights that much over vers?
lucid olive
After 30% u do start losing value. First is -10% then is -20%. In haste.
Im li...
can guarantee that addon has not been updated for years
looking at that stuff rots your brain
well, thinking it matters does
crimson helm
Go for sims honestly. Usually around 25k mastery is where sim told me to invest more into vers.
quiet drift
You only care about how much damage each point is giving you, not how much its being DR'd
quiet drift
Aura
sturdy crescent
Love u all. Ty ❤️
dense steeple
But pawn says my mastery stat weight is only 0.93 dps per point
zinc heron
The hell of min-max
lofty depot
The hell of min-max
not locked in
zinc heron
The moment you start min-max is the moment all the fun went out the window
glossy jungle
quiet drift
Isnt pvp the defenition of min-max
If youre worse than your opponent you lose
There is no bar
zinc heron
Min-max in PvP not really, if the gear difference is a lot then sure but that’s in any mode
Information is really what does the big difference its why addons kinda fucked it
zinc heron
Ehhh you can win without min-max
lucid olive
addons are minmaxing as well
zinc heron
It’s the main problem of wow PvP, the ppl using addons has way too big of an advantage because of information
Thank god it’s changing in midnight
pseudo merlin
But pawn says my mastery stat weight is only 0.93 dps per point
Hope blizzard makes an inhouse pawn
lucid olive
Hope blizzard makes an inhouse pawn
can you imagine
that would be the biggest piece of shit ever
pseudo merlin
Thatd be so funny
normal pilot
lucid olive
inhouse raidbots would go crazy
lucid olive
built in top gear results in the dungeon journal
craggy sonnet
gotta do that on each character tho
spice roost
inhouse raidbots would go crazy
i love this idea
jovial hare
Personalized raidbots
"Since you are bad this item actually only raises your dps by 100 not 1000 like if you give it to your DH"
native wharf
not locked in
locked in
lofty depot
holy
spice roost
<a:xdding:1370502130062065666>
new store mount with raidbots built on it 300$
lucid olive
new shoulder transmog that glows when your bis item drops
brazen badge
Now I can say for sure that I hate the base tree for druids, is super cumbersome trying to account for 4 specs in such a small tree, for the balance spec they tried to please players that want to play as a nature mage and cosmic mage and I dont like it how it was done
lofty depot
kinda crazy we have like 20% more talents than other classes and less choice/good talents to choose
lucid olive
should work for dungeon bosses
lucid olive
well i didnt say it wasnt
they definitely need to change how it fires off boss events
currently it sends every event at once when you start the encounter
spice roost
oh god thats terrible
lucid olive
so if you use addon like bigwigs/dbm that are essentially just skinning the timeline
you get massive lagspike
had this happen in raid testing
spice roost
LOL
lucid olive
the addons could limit how many bars are visible but then you might lose important timers like phase changes and enrage timers
spice roost
i noticed the dungeons are way more simple then live and easier is that the case with the raids too in your opnion currently
lucid olive
and if you allow addons to change priority of boss casts that could open a can of worms
no i didn't notice a difference
the last boss of the tier that some guilds got a sneak peek for has mechanics that would be insta solved by weakauras though
but will have to wait until it releases to see if its a fun boss or not lol
spice roost
ya i heard about that
obv they knew what they were doing tho testing it
when it wasnt supposed to be tested
lucid olive
it doesnt matter
spice roost
does it not give an advantage for them
lucid olive
everyone sees the fight on normal and heroic before they ever pull it on mythic
spice roost
thats true
meager storm
bro my gustave got stuck inside this thing after a cutscene 
potent cargo
bro my gustave got stuck inside this thing after a cutscene <a:xdding:1370502130...
let him die hes useless anyway
meager storm
dense steeple
let him die hes useless anyway
tooxic
meager storm
all grill party
gonna make sciel my main dps on this playthrough
lets see
first one was full burn build on maelle
i dont wanna hear about stendhal cucks
muted canopy
Spotted this in lemix today, crazy work
potent cargo
o i cant write the c word
the cu word
cuc* word
never did a sciel dmg build since like every other cuc i just used her for extra turns and double dam
think she's got some juice though
stone ledge
we got our top 10 parse on nexus king finally pog. Time to get it on dimmy
jade flume
bro my gustave got stuck inside this thing after a cutscene <a:xdding:1370502130...
For those who come after
delicate perch
can't wait to use gustave he looks so fun
round field
never did a sciel dmg build since like every other cuc i just used her for extra...
Double dam on maele into burning canvas
Brere
Brrrr
lyric thicket
Hi can we cansel aura dryad ? i mean if CA is up at the last second of the boss it could be a better kill time xD
jade flume
Try it
round field
Remove cancelaura from the game
vital hound
@lofty depot
lyric thicket
❤️
lofty depot
locken
jade flume
holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
What the helly 1bil
round field
me when i failed basic math
jade flume
Is it math if im just reading a number
jade flume
Im actually turbo jacked at math on god...
round field
i can tell..
delicate perch
i can tell..
somehow NA education is to blame I just know it
delicate perch
tax cuts or something idk
pseudo merlin
Spotted this in lemix today, crazy work
Whats crazy?
I think mine also has like 80m hp
Thats only like artifact 400
delicate perch
I thought the name
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> does NZ get much news about this content creator
yea saw that
fucking insane
delicate perch
which is just w/e go to some dead realm
vital hound
fr
dry coral
Hi guys, how do we sim voidcore? Last dinar. Juggling between boots or voidcore, alrdy got an antenna
Seeing 80% of balance druids using it
dry coral
Diamantine voidcore. Simmed and it is lower than antenna. Just curious why i see many on the logs using it
pallid bay
it sims about equal on my guy
and if it means i dont have to collect funny orbs i'll take a minor dps loss
dry coral
and if it means i dont have to collect funny orbs i'll take a minor dps loss
Makes sense. Thanks
round field
Hi guys, how do we sim voidcore? Last dinar. Juggling between boots or voidcore,...
boots > voidcore
also do u have the weapon
round field
not having to get orbs > getting orbs
vale pebble
misty vapor
is there a wa to track voidcore procs ?
pseudo merlin
How about we stop making gimmicky shit trinkets and go back to HFC/NH type trinkets
thoughts
I'm so sick and tired of chasing balls
round field
sure
vale pebble
sure
livid jay
xD
sudden flame
goated trinket
pseudo merlin
goated trinket
I'm not surprised hearing this from a feral
sudden flame
Goated trinekt for how bad it was
pseudo merlin
sudden flame
Like it was an actual liability on bosses
I wouldn't use it on silken court because it would sometimes spawn an orb on the opposite colour group
and if you get the jump or the disc one on pull on ansurek it would delay your cds by like 2 seconds
fossil hemlock
How about we stop making gimmicky shit trinkets and go back to HFC/NH type trink...
Did we play the same HFC?
round field
Like it was an actual liability on bosses
and the fucking
ovinax egg
holy shit what a rancid design
i played it in a key once
and my weakaura was red all the key
sudden flame
Did balance play both of them?
because feral sure did
and it was omega awful lmao
round field
i played dk that tier
and i played both
i did not enjoy it
i think boomie played like
transmitter spymaster?
livid jay
transmitter spymaster?
ye
round field
i miss spymaster
vale pebble
playing a heroic egg as i didnt get a mythic one entire season <a:Classic:111574...
we gave hc egg as a crest upgrade week1
livid jay
i miss spymaster
imagine spymaster with dryad boomkin
sudden flame
My healer who quit that season btw stole egg from me because he wanted to collect every trinket 
We basically transition to rolling after prog so stuff gets a bit memey
livid jay
we had a dk who's transmitter got "stolen" (lootcouncil made em roll) by an aug who proceeded to not play the trinket afterwards cause he "didn't like it"
round field
My healer who quit that season btw stole egg from me because he wanted to collec...
i had a rogue get awarded a smolderon trinket only to leave the guild like a day later 
round field
said aug is romanian 😄
vale pebble
<a:Classic:1115740226476855448>
pseudo merlin
Did we play the same HFC?
You forgot about archimonde or what
We had class trinkets twice in this game no
Elisande and Archimonde
Wait no theres neltharion too
Sort of
fossil hemlock
You forgot about archimonde or what
You don't think that trinket was extremely gimmicky?
pseudo merlin
Maybe
But it was fun (I mainly played mage, maybe bias, i dont even remember what mine was)
dark citrus
yo is there a Penalty with mastery that i dont wanna reach in Pve ?
dark citrus
sim only changes stats if u hit a penalty point where u lose value thats why i ask since i dont hit that point
fossil hemlock
Sims take anything like this into account
Even if you hit one of the diminishing return breakpoints, it's very possible that you still want to stack that stat over the others
Like Ravec said, the only way to know is to sim
pseudo merlin
sim only changes stats if u hit a penalty point where u lose value thats why i a...
You just made that up
Thats the craziest thing ive ever heard
Stop simming stat weights
Sim top gear and droptimizer
I wonder who out there is convincing people to believe so adamantly in all these gearing myths that havent been relevant for over a decade
delicate perch
You just made that up
Yeah well I have 10000009 mastery so I can’t get anymore or else I’ll get over the breakpoint penalty tier list YouTuber
livid jay
probably 95% of the playerbase who is casual and still uses pawn to gear their char
plucky valley
Yeah no shot luv no shot we have the technology we have the answers no go back. NO GO BACK 🗣️ NO GO BACK 🗣️ NO GO BACK 🗣️
dark citrus
Like Ravec said, the only way to know is to sim
ah okay, thought were is some point u dont wanna reach.
fossil hemlock
Not a specific point, but the robot might tell you eventually to focus more on the other stats
dark citrus
ye got it
plucky valley
dark citrus
may i´ll try this sim stuff. never did cuz there is no need in pvp ^^ i just run Mastery / haste atm, for me m+ is fun atm but feels 18 is my limit atm puggin, thought my i should watch over my gear to do more. i need that sim addon installed right ?
pseudo merlin
Yeah well I have 10000009 mastery so I can’t get anymore or else I’ll get over t...
Wait theres a new stat teir list? Link pls. Is there one for beta???
pseudo merlin
may i´ll try this sim stuff. never did cuz there is no need in pvp ^^ i just ru...
Simcraft ye
Then type /simc in game to generate a string u can copy paste into raidbots
vale pebble
Wait theres a new stat teir list? Link pls. Is there one for beta???
yea beta tier list
s++ crit
f mastery haste vers
dark citrus
thanks mate
pseudo merlin
yea beta tier list
s++ crit
f mastery haste vers
Thx chickenking
dark citrus
but its everytime 2h+ qeue for a maybe 5 min key
fossil hemlock
Moonkin so much more fun there
You've come so far since yesterday
pseudo merlin
Chicken convinced me
vale pebble
You've come so far since yesterday
he a sheep vro
vale pebble
and so are u vro
fossil hemlock
lmao
pseudo merlin
and so are u vro
Xo
You need access through key/rng invite or the $100 prepurchase
When u got that itl show up in the launcher dropdown
dark citrus
ah okay ye i see it, means i got access as u said right ? well may i´ll try! ty
pseudo merlin
I believe so yeah
@vale pebble predictions for the post thanksgiving mega beta patch?
vale pebble
<@246708743738359808> predictions for the post thanksgiving mega beta patch?
no clue mate they could just type anything in there
round field
"no patch next week cause thanksgiving"
"week after bigger patch because we spent the last week not working"
pseudo merlin
Ye the logic is sound
fossil hemlock
The logic might be sound, but I'm deaf
pseudo merlin
Kinda implies that normally theyre working at half pace, but for this one they will give us a full weeks worth of work
spice roost
@pseudo merlinhave you tired aff lock on beta yet
pseudo merlin
Yep
spice roost
fun to u?
pseudo merlin
Worst state it's ever been in
spice roost
really wow
spice roost
ya
pseudo merlin
both affli and demo
maiden pasture
this picture is so american wtf
livid jay
fcking gommer fries
maiden pasture
why does the egg look nuclear
livid jay
its a tomato on top
i was confused first too
bacon looks nuclear tho
ah might actually be southern hemisphere tho
shorts in november
round field
even the bun looks like id gain 5 kilos from eating it
sudden flame
whole burger ruined by that tomato
round field
the tomato looks like the only edible thing on that "burger"
livid jay
haha whats a tomato supposed to look like
pseudo merlin
But id rate that tomato pretty good
Sry I mean green seeds
Green goop around sides is fine
As long as the seeds arent green
lucid olive
tomatoes are alright in a sauce, a salad or on a burger but other than that get it off my plate
pseudo merlin
Gamz never had real tomatos type attitude
Come here ill give you one
You change ur mind instantly
Everyone does
lucid olive
definitely have had real tomato
just generally don't like the consistency
and i'm not a picky eater at all (fat)
pseudo merlin
Its like comparing eating an onion raw to eating it sauteed
pseudo merlin
just generally don't like the consistency
Hmmm ok
eager raft
Tomato stinks
round field
🤢 that's the part i don't like
ur opinion is invalid
eager raft
thyme your opinion is valid
lucid olive
are people really out here eating tomato as a meal like its an apple
that shits just an ingredient or
eager raft
yes definitely just an ingredient
If anyone is straight up taking a bite out of tomato they need to be jailed
fossil hemlock
I mean there's also like 400 different types of tomato
So saying you had "a real tomato" doesn't mean much
round field
are people really out here eating tomato as a meal like its an apple
tomato is easily ediable as an apple
fossil hemlock
Ye the right type
lucid olive
ew
round field
especially the lil cherry tomates
eager raft
tomato is easily ediable as an apple
seek salvation freak
round field
can eat em like a snack
fossil hemlock
Cherry tomatoes are extremely popular snacks
eager raft
ok cherry tomatoes
lucid olive
you probably call tomato a vegetable as well
eager raft
Are completely different
round field
no tomato is a fruit
eager raft
That’s not eating it like an apple
lucid olive
tomato is a berry
fossil hemlock
A tomato is both a vegetable and a fruit
mighty mica
i'm definitely picky when it comes to tomatos, wouldn't eat as an apple and if it's particularly bad on a burger i'd take it off
eager raft
Fast food tomatoes are always an instant remove for me
round field
u guys are ill
eager raft
They’re always slimy
mighty mica
true
eager raft
I like pretty much any tomato flavoured/based thing
But not a fan of having straight up tomato
plucky valley
IT WAS A BACON EGG AND CHEESE W/ TOMATO I WAS WEARING SHORTS BECAUSE I LIVE IN FLORIDA
It’s not a burger
Oh I meant to respond to Maya
round field
it looks disgusting
plucky valley
But I’m not gonna scroll back up to find it now
round field
so much grease my stomach is turning
sudden flame
tomato's as a sauce 
tomato not as a sauce 
mighty mica
its disgusting
nah diners are great
plucky valley
Yeah I’m perplexed as heck
round field
if i went to america
i would end up in the hospital
in 2 weeks
from the food
need to have a chemical refinery plant instead of a stomach
to be able to process it
round field
how much do u weigh thyme
mighty mica
~150
round field
obese
round field
nah thats
lucid olive
lol
round field
kg
lucid olive
like 75
pseudo merlin
need to have a chemical refinery plant instead of a stomach
Real
You could make plastic from american food
Or like
Fossil fuels
Any petroleum product
Idk how yall stay alive honestly
gaunt ruin
Hi guys! I just came back to wow and I was curious about stat priority for boomie. I know I should sim but I just got lvl 80 and I want to buy some greens from ah
pseudo merlin
Buy whatever it doesnt matter u replace it in a minute
round field
if u want just have it have mastery and be done with that
gaunt ruin
I know that in dragonflight the prio was mastery haste crit versa
pseudo merlin
Versa
gaunt ruin
On wow head haste is the last one for the current patch
lucid olive
with keeper yes
also you shouldn't care about stat prio
like Ravec said
pick ilvl until you're like 710 ish
then start simming your character
gaunt ruin
Ok. Also you need two sets one for m+ and one for raid?
lofty depot
Generally u can swap out rings and neck and be fine
pseudo merlin
Also depends on what ur goals are
lofty depot
Different trinkets maybe