balance

[vale pebble]

• do not press starsurge in lunar eclipse if over 6 targets can get hit by starfire (yes overcap ap)

at some point

[lucid olive]

mmm love that

[ripe slate]

[lucid olive]

was that df s1

[vale pebble]

idk

[lofty depot]

Bfa surely

[lucid olive]

oh wait no it has to be like BFA yeah

[vale pebble]

12/26/20, 5:27 P

[lucid olive]

or SL even

[ripe slate]

bfa the era of zero starfall casts

[vale pebble]

whenever this was

[lucid olive]

makes sense for SL too since Starfall was on a cd

[vale pebble]

i ctrl f not press in jundarer dms

my chungus life

[lucid olive]

i miss junda

hope he's happy with his irl job and having a real life away from chronical discordians

[round field]

I miss junda

Spec gone downhill since he left

Stuck with gamz...

[lucid olive]

it started going downhill before he left..

[round field]

Didnt ask

Doesnt fit my narrative

[lucid olive]

sorry my presence bothers you

stuck with me now

[lofty depot]

He'll be gone when GTA6 comes out don't worry

[vale pebble]

it all went downhill after kyrian sheet

true?

who remembers

[lucid olive]

it went downhill after chicken left honolulu

[vale pebble]

x

i had been off moonkin for like 2 tiers

even then

[lofty depot]

Was before cuz he had to play lock before leaving

[lucid olive]

wasnt he healing ammy d

[lofty depot]

After

[vale pebble]

i did not have to vro

i was just fed up warlock op and all warlocks bad

(true)

then went healer cause all healers bad

[lucid olive]

not wrong, warlock players stink

[vale pebble]

(also true)

[lofty depot]

All players bad, make chicken multi box 20 accounts

[vale pebble]

i have multiboxed

hc splits

ddx

[lofty depot]

Holy

[vale pebble]

was funny

that shit melts ur brain

[pseudo merlin]

this

[void jacinth]

and ur wallet right?

u need to pay for multiple subscriptions?

[vale pebble]

cluegi chungus

[void jacinth]

oh you use gold for subs ofc

[alpine dagger]

So after checking out the feral channel they are pretty doomer. Should I play chicken instead or are you guys unhappy too?

[vale pebble]

yea thats for sure what i meant

[void jacinth]

now youre doing sarcasm

🤷

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/good-triumphs-cat-mrow-meow-idk-gif-13691899891700108231

[void jacinth]

Gemini doesnt know wtf u meant either

oh you called me clueless

and also fat Roger Rabbit

[maiden pasture]

cluegi chungus maxing

[pseudo merlin]

rate beta boomkin on a scale of 1 to 10

[lucid olive]

7

actually maybe 6

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[pseudo merlin]

why only 6

What's the nr1 thing on your wishlist rn

[lucid olive]

a non dogshit pandemic glow

[pseudo merlin]

I just want these fucking pee colored skill swipes to go away

[lucid olive]

press starfall enough in aoe and your sunfire/moonfire will glow for pandemic even at 20 seconds

[pseudo merlin]

LMAO really

[lucid olive]

yeah it seems hard coded to just glow at 30% of total duration

but base duration doesnt care about the cap to kindling extension

[pseudo merlin]

hahahahahah

[lucid olive]

also if it starts glowing it never stops no matter how much you extend it

the duration swipe also has the same issue

[exotic perch]

if only we had an addon that did that correctly

[lucid olive]

like base duration sunfire is 18 seconds so at 9 seconds the swipe should be exactly 50% right

[exotic perch]

and was super easy to create an aura for

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah something with a really high level of customisation

Where you could set triggers and conditionals

[lucid olive]

but if youve pressed starfall a bunch it can be at like 20 second duration but the swipe looks like its 5% duration left

cause the total duration in the swipe just kept going up

[pseudo merlin]

[lucid olive]

like if i just had control of the glows itd be better

i know its possible to change glow stuff with some addons but its held together by chewing gum and duct tape

[pseudo merlin]

CMT will add it surely

[lucid olive]

i deleted that addon

[pseudo merlin]

Only CMT doesn't work for half the classes

it makes everything spazm out on your screen

[lucid olive]

it just rando changed the order in my primary bar

[pseudo merlin]

It's crazy how customising my wowauras takes 10x more effort than weakauras

[lucid olive]

until i pressed starfire and the eclipse icon changed

then it started working

[pseudo merlin]

YUP!

I couldnt figure out what caused it so I disabled it on affected chars

[lucid olive]

and sometimes i pressed treants and after the duration timer ended it just went to 0 as if it was available

had to look down at my bars

[pseudo merlin]

CMT or default?

For the treant thing

yo wtf is happening here

[lucid olive]

idk i deleted cmt yesterday after raid testing and havent tested after

i got that new addon people been spreading

just called CooldownManager

has a power bar and cast bar in it as well so deleted the other ones i had for that

and option to anchor them to different bars

[pseudo merlin]

oh cool ill try that

what annoys me most so far is delays

like you press your dots on a target and it literally doesn't show up on your tracking frame for like 100ms

[lofty depot]

There were weakauras that had bad glow coding for pandemic

[pseudo merlin]

not sure if that's the NA beta server location MS

[pseudo merlin]

?

thats all I can find

[pseudo merlin]

ah there's a space

thx

[jade flume]

man why ur unitframes look so good gamz

[lucid olive]

unhalted

[jade flume]

Never heard of the guy

[lucid olive]

oh well

[pseudo merlin]

im not gonne lie

[lucid olive]

its unhalted unit frames with atrocitymedia texture

[pseudo merlin]

it looks like afenar

[lucid olive]

based

[jade flume]

Thx brother

May the odds be ever in your favour

[craggy sonnet]

where's your masque or whatever to change these horrid default actionbar thingies around your player frame

[lucid olive]

idk i turned masque off

lua errored for removing backdrop shit

[pseudo merlin]

Downloading addons to disable shit that we already had disabled but now can't disable in blizzards default UI replacement

👌

4 years later we still can't hide our primary action bar btw

[lucid olive]

the one good thing about CMT addon tho

was setting up like separate rows for the icons

so i could technically do like a 1,3 setup

with Starlord alone in a row and then solar/cosmos/lunar below it

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah I like the rows thing

I did like SL > dots > cds

I'd prefer moving dots and trackers to above the resource bar and everything else below though

[lucid olive]

yeah i been thinking about doing dots in buff bar but then the ability bar has like 0 icons

[pseudo merlin]

right

also the buff bar is kinda weird, default one atleast

i want it square

the default cast bar is also just the worst

[lucid olive]

yeah need an addon for a cast bar that doesnt suck

[lofty depot]

It's pretty crazy they're just always grouped

[pseudo merlin]

didnt you say Cooldown Manager has one ?

[lucid olive]

yes

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah huge customisation

Is the manager one not decent?

[lucid olive]

yeah its the one i use

i just logged on live to find whatever the colors were on my weakaura and copied it over

[graceful coyote]

someone here who likes to share his UI ? i want to test a bit dungeons etc.

[jade flume]

@lucid olive is that unitframe addon supposed to work on beta

[lucid olive]

yes

[lucid olive]

https://github.com/DaleHuntGB/UnhaltedUnitFrames/tree/midnight

click this and then download zip

he put instructions in the github readme thing actually so just follow that

[amber temple]

What enchant should I put on my weapon?, WoWhead suggested AuthOfTheDepths?

[jade flume]

Ok, i was downloading from the curseforge

and just realised 11.2 is not midnight actually

[lofty depot]

One of the stat ones

[jade flume]

i was like, yeah 11.2 that checks out

[lofty depot]

The food/fire buff w.e. thing from raid doesn't work with depths

[lucid olive]

ye

[lofty depot]

U can sim the differences

Don't tell tettles tho

[lucid olive]

when they made the endgame realm they put in restrictions too that addons need to have 120000 in the .toc file or it won't be loaded at all

so some addon authors havent updated for it yet

[pseudo merlin]

When I played havoc on release day I thought it wouldnt be possible to create anything more boring to play, but here we go they really went back to their roots with voidman dh

[lucid olive]

TWW havoc fucking bangs

midnight havoc as well

[pseudo merlin]

yeah but legion havoc did not

it was legit demon bite, chaos blade, parry and eye beam

no cdr on eyebeam

its over

[lofty depot]

It was too powerful

[round field]

ew

but why does havoc have like

20 button opener sequence

[lucid olive]

its fun

current fel scarred is a bit dull though

but aldrachi reaver m+ is most fun spec i've played in a long time

[pseudo merlin]

yo but if they allow everything to be neatly spaced and like square, why is there 0 customisation for cast bar other than size

why does it say what cast it is BELOW the bar

[round field]

why not?

can u disable the shit

[pseudo merlin]

Because all the info can be inside of the bar

not taking up space

[round field]

gcd indicator

[pseudo merlin]

no

[round field]

wtf

why

not

[pseudo merlin]

no

You can track shadowform, probably also moonkin form, but only in the way that it shows you when it's active and not when it's not

😂

[lofty depot]

Just download a better one dub

[pseudo merlin]

recommend one

[lofty depot]

Dominos

[earnest marsh]

Id say Quartz but its not up to date for beta yet

[eager raft]

addon users

[lofty depot]

Quartz works too

Think there another

[pseudo merlin]

leme c

[lofty depot]

Would have to look when I get home

[pseudo merlin]

ok gnosis works

we're saved

[eager raft]

oh that’s actually great news I’ve used gnossis forever

[pseudo merlin]

Can't tell if sarcasm

But I'm a big gnosis enjoyer

nvm sorry I baited

[eager raft]

Nope no sarcasm

👎 👎

[royal zenith]

it was sarcasm

dont trust him

[pseudo merlin]

I don't

But I trust 🦆 less

So I trust you

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

Anyway in other news, I found out that they make rechargeable socks that can heat your feet up to 65 degrees celsius for like 10 hours

[jade flume]

Why not just add burning coals to ur socks

[pseudo merlin]

I use all my coal to make diamonds

[spice roost]

i understand the opener for the current tierset doing 2ca in it but is that only on the initial opener ...or is it worth to that 2x in a fight

[eager raft]

yes

[spice roost]

yes to what exactly

[eager raft]

yes it’s worth it to do the 2x ca within the fight

Dependant on fight length

[spice roost]

ok

[eager raft]

Like if a fight is gonna be shorter than 4 minutes, you’d hold the convoke you get back at ~2min until your 2nd charge is back

If it’s longer than 4 minutes you can do 2x ca+convoke on pull, 1x ca + convoke at 2 minutes, then 2x ca + convoke again around 4 min

[lofty depot]

When u have double CA that's how u do the ca sequence

If you're doing single CA, u can surge surge trees convoke

There are fights where its better double CA at like 315 rather than use 1 ca at 2m

[lucid olive]

it might work, its just not been updated

go into the addon folder and find the gnosis.toc text file

[pseudo merlin]

this'l work for now, dominos is required for bars anyway

I just need gnosis for GCD

[lucid olive]

and then whatever number is after "interface" you change to 120000

[pseudo merlin]

idk how people play this game without a GCD indicator, I truely can not

[lucid olive]

addons need to have that in there or they wont load on beta at all

[pseudo merlin]

It's like a metronome to me

[pseudo merlin]

cheers

[lucid olive]

and then you reload the game and see if the addon shits out lua errors or not

and if it does then gg go next

[pseudo merlin]

its not even showing up under beta>interface>addons

[lucid olive]

sus

[pseudo merlin]

maybe relog

yeah this is sus

😂

[eager raft]

I just spam the shit out of the next button I wanna press

[copper basalt]

best play to double CA on first platform on Dimmy M?

[lucid olive]

depends on ur timer

you'll find out whenever you make it to amp if you have CDs for it or not

[pseudo merlin]

I don't like doing that but even when I do I still want to see the gcd

[lucid olive]

why do you have weakauras in there

thought it was beta

[pseudo merlin]

look at the date

[lucid olive]

oh yeah

wrong folder then i guess

[pseudo merlin]

MN beta is on D: for some reason

this is C:

[eager raft]

i don’t see how it would be possible to double ca first platform and have it back for amp

[lucid olive]

gg

[lucid olive]

lot of people did during prog early

you phase p1 as 4th gravity is coming out

then phase 1st platform as the 2nd slam happens

then phase p2 with the 2nd winds

most people kill 1st platform too early now

[eager raft]

The platforms are a set duration tho and that duration is less than the amount of time it takes for double ca to recharge no?

[lucid olive]

theyre not set durations?

[lofty depot]

U can do it as the 2nd adds come out plat 1

P2 2nd winds

[eager raft]

There is a maximum amount of time each platform can last

[pseudo merlin]

anlaky

[lucid olive]

yeah and you'll have double CA if you play out the platforms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P15nu4xpm9E

[lofty depot]

Just needs to last like 550

[copper basalt]

yeah ive had double CA on p1 p2 and p3 so far on prog, but was just unsure wether it was the correct paly or na

but seems to be the play in my circumstance

[lucid olive]

if you can send double CA on both its correct

[lucid olive]

also its basically just playing ele shaman 3 minute timer

[lofty depot]

Triple double, maybe get 1 at 8

[lucid olive]

which is why they were super good in rwf

[copper basalt]

truly feel like a cheerleader on 2nd platform though

[lofty depot]

Press Starfall more

[copper basalt]

filters out no?

[lofty depot]

It hits all the adds that don't get filtered

[eager raft]

This is 15 item levels and 9% damage ago

[lofty depot]

People still hold bud

[lucid olive]

yes and my response to the guy was "depends on timer"

you still have people sending on a 3m schedule

for prog its definitely best to send 2 2 2 1

[copper basalt]

i do love holding on p1

[eager raft]

“Guys please stop damage for 2 minutes so my CDs line up with amp”

[lofty depot]

Doing more damage in p3 does make it easier.....

News at 7

[lucid olive]

we had people holding their prism stacks until p3 on prog and shit

[exotic perch]

holding dps is good for the game guys

didnt you know

[lofty depot]

Yea, bring SL back

Big holding damage expac

[eager raft]

No real point using it any other time imo

I use it once at 1m then hold for p3

[lucid olive]

i sent my 2nd 4pc into the voidwarden on 1st platform

cause we stopped dmg on artoshion anyway

[lofty depot]

Did that all prog.... Now void warden dying faster

Little rats didn't target void warden all prog now do it

[royal zenith]

@pseudo merlin

[pseudo merlin]

IS IT TIME?

[royal zenith]

teaser is out

12th of dec it's happening

[woven flint]

midnight falls is gonna be a banger without weakauras

[royal zenith]

ngl, all of it looks pretty shit so far

[pallid bay]

you're just a doomer

[royal zenith]

I am

at this point in time

[eager raft]

deux it’s gonna be ok 🙂

[lucid olive]

how can u doom when i do this dam

[lofty depot]

Maybe that whole group is cheeks?

[royal zenith]

its not about the class man..

[lucid olive]

can't be, there aren't any Divine Council raiders in here..

[rustic flower]

What's the generally accepted talents for beta testing atm?

[lofty depot]

Thats toxic

[lofty depot]

There aren't accepted talents for beta

People are playing shit for fun and testing out what's good

[stone ledge]

sir no gaslighting

[lucid olive]

[stone ledge]

whispyr and I are in the same guild and are just laughing nonstop

[agile oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-dexter-dexter-meme-gif-1302676710766719675

If I see you at blizzcon gamz

[lucid olive]

pay my ticket

im european

[stone ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-5972314891354809109

dryad being our 3rd damage is frightening

[nova ocean]

They nerfed it hard too

[royal zenith]

even the rogues trynna chase your ass @lucid olive

joever for you

[lucid olive]

hes just jealous..

[agile oracle]

I'm shutting down the rogue discord until blizzard deletes starfall again

[royal zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

calm down whispyr...

[stark verge]

hello! can someone explains how to play correctly with my rotation with druid, and what I do wrong, here are my logs from tonight's raid, thank you so much 🙂
https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/reports/r1Gd7g4LXt6Wvqc9

[craggy sonnet]

@lofty depot

[delicate perch]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium would give this a lil read

[stark verge]

? I don't understand T_T

[delicate perch]

read the link I sent there is a lot wrong in the first 10 seconds

[craggy sonnet]

clean opener fr fr

[delicate perch]

please move sunfire to an impossible bind you press it so often

[craggy sonnet]

cavey, i'll just ping you instead now for the big dawg log reviews

[delicate perch]

some of them are easy

[stark verge]

I guess my stats are not that good, right ?

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-wait-a-minute-somethings-aint-right-hold-up-somethings-wrong-here-gif-17361118

[craggy sonnet]

see, he got it first try

[delicate perch]

it's too early for this

[craggy sonnet]

no your opener is a rollercoaster ride straight down a cliff

[stark verge]

well thanks for your "help", i'll check the link you gave me

[delicate perch]

bruh

[lofty depot]

Stats don't matter til u play correctly

Ur using dots in your CDs

[stark verge]

shall I use my dots everytime they fade ?

[lofty depot]

Preferably before it fades

[pseudo merlin]

Holy shit you dunked on that yellow man

[ripe slate]

someone told me greens didnt scale in testing

is this true

[lofty depot]

Ye

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[ripe slate]

god

[lofty depot]

Go to the pvp vendor

[ripe slate]

i was using a green weapon both days

XD

[lofty depot]

Smh

[loud kettle]

Average moonkin player

[pseudo merlin]

I mean I was also using greens so

skill issue also maybe

[ripe slate]

begone feral

back to dooming

[loud kettle]

Im not feral anymore trust

[pseudo merlin]

why are you green

[ripe slate]

kovu logged into beta to do feral keys looked at the changes

[pseudo merlin]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[ripe slate]

said hes gonna kms and logged out

[loud kettle]

Feral is extremely boring on beta so

[pseudo merlin]

so real

[craggy sonnet]

sorry. might have been a lil toxic. but it was just funny that you went from getting told you bricked your opener with a link to a guide to talking about stats

[pseudo merlin]

What are the odds they bring BT back

[delicate perch]

well thanks for your "help", i'll check the link you gave me

[pseudo merlin]

well thanks for your "help", i'll check the link you gave me

[lofty depot]

when he says "find a new bind"

what he means is u casted more sunfires in the first minute of the fight than surge

[pseudo merlin]

looks like a clear case of not enough haste to me

[lyric kettle]

Banger opener ong

[pseudo merlin]

is this new tech?=

[lofty depot]

which is kinda insane

[pseudo merlin]

🇫🇷

[stark verge]

? 🙂

[kind raptor]

finding it hard to decide on elune or keeper, so far only did like up to 9 on my druid so probably doesn't matter too much but I might try harder soon.

[stark verge]

nah you weren't the one being toxic, you took your time to explain it to me, np

[delicate perch]

[craggy sonnet]

but yeah, you should definitely try to read the guide thoroughly, look back at your log, then try to implement what the guide says, then read it again, look back at your log

no clue if you are spamming sunfire because you are constantly moving?

but idk why you would have to

[stark verge]

what a bunch of trolls lmao

[stark verge]

yep guess it's a bad habit

[craggy sonnet]

if you have to move, then either be aware of the fact that you might have to beforehand and bank AP to be able to surge if you are still in eclipse and try to cover the distance faster with wild charge

[delicate perch]

you were given a link to answer any questions you have, stats are not your problem you just have no clue what you're doing and refuse to learn

[stark verge]

yes but maybe you could have been comprehensive and take your time to explain it to me instead of being "rude"

[delicate perch]

I am not going to read it out for you

[lofty depot]

as opposed to being rude

u were "rude"

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

often times when u see rudimentary mistakes it means that person hasnt ready a guide

and instead of him explaining every detail of what u did wrong, its better for u to read the guide and then try again

[maiden pasture]

HAHAHA

this has to be ragebait

what

[pseudo merlin]

Its always the stats

Can we just play the game with templates and grind purely for item level

Like pvp in bfa

Or was it legion(?)

[heady mural]

is there a midnight channel somewhere I just am not seeing?

[lucid olive]

no

[heady mural]

oh well that's not helpful at all

[lucid olive]

that would require admins to interact with the discord

and we can't have that

[heady mural]

haha

[lofty depot]

What do u need

[heady mural]

I was tryign to look for starter beta builds becuase I am dumb moonkin and the one I tested was god awful lool

[lofty depot]

Everyone is messing around with talents and shit.

There's logs u can look at to see what some people are running.

[heady mural]

yeah I just had to finhd some

thank you

[scenic vortex]

Any super geniuses about who can help me out

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ptqzd6kyL1cQnxjD?fight=14&type=damage-done&source=42&phase=4&view=events&ability=-78674&start=2864009&end=2888400

Where those 140m star surges come from

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qdJFDBhzAx7rkPvm?fight=46&phase=4&position=7339&type=damage-done&source=10&view=events&ability=-78674&start=7762147&end=7787136

Comparing it directly to my log we press almost the same buttons and we both crit but I do not get these

Unless it's an aug reattribution bug imagine

[lofty depot]

Worse gear

[lucid olive]

you are also not cotti

[lofty depot]

One of u has an aug

[lucid olive]

he has more mast and more crit

you have haste

[livid flicker]

they kinda did double your damage before hitting second alignment

[meager storm]

u are meeleing the boss

[scenic vortex]

+120m on each of the casts and it's just gear diff? Damn

[meager storm]

ur buff is getting consumed with melees

[scenic vortex]

WHAT

Nah fuck off is that possible

[lofty depot]

Yes

[scenic vortex]

I know I'm new to the spec but that can't be a thing

[lucid olive]

yes

[lofty depot]

It is

[scenic vortex]

Goodness

Don't I look a fool now

[lofty depot]

Take ur /startattack our of ur macro

[lofty depot]

Not a widely known thing tbf

[lofty depot]

Really only big problem on nexus king and dimmy

[scenic vortex]

That's a meaty melee holy moly

But it doesn't scale with what popped it so it's not actually a loss? Or?

It might just look weird on my breakdown?

[lofty depot]

What do u mean it's not a loss

U lost ur buff

[scenic vortex]

Idk I don't remember how the tier set works properly but if it's just "your next thingy does +100 damage" I guess I lose the cleave aspect but in st if I'm just doing +100 damage with melee swing vs +100 damage with starsurge ygm

[lucid olive]

the 4pc doesnt do its own independent damage

[jade flume]

u only lose like 200mil dmg per stack

[lucid olive]

it does (Starsurge base dmg + modifiers) x (4pc pooled damage + modifiers)

[scenic vortex]

Ahh cheeky multiplication sign fair play

I'll uh

Stand further away from the boss

[lucid olive]

or get the weakaura linked in Compendium

[scenic vortex]

Unless I macro stop attack into everything

[lucid olive]

that stops you from auto attacking

[scenic vortex]

Ok I'll do that instead

Thank you gang forgive my naivety I'm a young pup

[lofty depot]

Just wait til u find out control of the dream is bugged

[scenic vortex]

I don't know what control of the dream is so I'm still in blissful ignorance

My state of knowing how to play this spec is spam wrath and spend

[lofty depot]

It's a hero talent

[scenic vortex]

I'll learn what my abilities do in a year

[lofty depot]

Should learn before that lol

Read the guide, will belp

[scenic vortex]

Oh that's the cdr thing, what's wrong with it?

[lofty depot]

Doesn't cdr if ur CDs are current long cd-ing when u die

Theres also a weakaura for it

Also linked in compendium

[scenic vortex]

I'm gonna level you I'm too stupid to understand what you just said, I'm going to return to blissful ignorance and yell at the sky if an ability isn't up when I want it

Or just not die, that works too

[eternal shell]

Hello guys, I'm not new to WoW but I am looking to switch from Melee DPS to a caster for Midnight and I was wondering if Balance Druid is an easy/beginner caster spec for the upcoming expansion? I'm looking for a class with a simple rotation and little no no management and the two classes that I am interested in are Elemental Shaman and Balance Druid. Can anyone with Beta access let me know if Balance Druid is a good spec for a beginner ranged DPS?

[lucid olive]

Yeah it's fine for a beginner

[lofty depot]

[lucid olive]

I know it's a non-answer but if you're new to WoW in general your best bet is to just try out stuff

The class and spec identities aren't really changing for Midnight

and if you're new to the game those are the things you'll interact with more than intricacies of every spec

Oh I didn't see you wrote "not new"

my bad

yeah moonkin is fine for beginner caster

i'd maybe try mage or warlock

[eternal shell]

I've been playing on and off for a while but my main issue has been I find some classes a bit too overwheling with various management and maintaining DPS while moving (this was a Melee issue). I heard about the pruning to Midnight but thought I will come back with a fresh experience and try out ranged DPS/casters. I enjoy raiding and Mythic+ but wanted to try a class that "clicked" with me. So was wondering about the state of Moonkin going into Midnight

[lofty depot]

That is a caster issue just as much as a melee issue

Maintaining DPS while doing mechanics is the skill of doing good DPS for most specs

[lucid olive]

its about the same as on live

[lofty depot]

Outside of BM hunter

[lucid olive]

but yeha, i'd still just try stuff out and then play the thing you find the most fun

[lofty depot]

But BM hunter isn't really playing the game so

[eternal shell]

As a ranged/caster, is the movement more predictable than Melee? I know you need to pre-move but it seems with Melee you are constantly moving, is this the same with casters as well or is it not as frequent?

[lofty depot]

Uhhh, casters have generally more things to do than melee

[scenic vortex]

Fewer things to dodge usually so fewer instances of movement

[lofty depot]

But u know when mechanics are ecoming

We pool astral power then use instant casts for movement

Which might be a little easier in midnight with a few more instant globals

[lucid olive]

yeah its definitely more predictable after you've done the fights a few times

[jade flume]

Melee would move more generally

[lucid olive]

but so is melee

[lofty depot]

I played melee 1 tier... Melee have less mechanics to do

[jade flume]

But as long as u can reach the boss it doesnt matter

[lucid olive]

melee is so easy man

[jade flume]

While ranged loses dam

[void jacinth]

Wasn't their first sentence "I'm not new to wow"

[lofty depot]

Was honestly boring

[lucid olive]

keep reading you get there

[void jacinth]

My attention span

It's a whole paragraf

[lofty depot]

So walk away from ur computer

Or alt tab

[void jacinth]

I'm on mobile

Rekt

[void jacinth]

Ahh

My guy

[scenic vortex]

An eternal debate, but I really did just mean swirly density etc. Melee has more things to dodge in melee which means constant movement (plus following the boss) whereas ranged can kinda outrange a lot and plant with occasional repositioning instances of movement

[lone arch]

what been played more a bit now in beta? keeper or elune... for m+

[lofty depot]

It's not a debate

[lucid olive]

who knows

doesnt rly matter either

[scenic vortex]

I remember progging Ansurek on evoker in the trenches then I turned around and saw my warlock stood still almost the entire phase payphoning that nonsense

[lucid olive]

EC probably gonna end up being better for m+

[lucid olive]

dev evoker ansurek was so much fun idk why complain

fucking love scalecommander and perma hover

[lofty depot]

All ranged were moving so

[scenic vortex]

I agree it was a lot of fun, but in terms of movement there was a lot

[lofty depot]

Melee was dodge swirl and boss moves with the swirl drop

It's not like that was fun for boomkin

[lucid olive]

it was definitely worse on that fight in evoker range than for others for movement

i just followed melee for boss moves

[lofty depot]

Bad timing for eclipse meant u had to wait 5 seconds for waves to go then cast

Same problem with dimmy

If u have excess mass to get people down can't get into eclipse

[lucid olive]

but you never really had bad timing for eclipse

unless you were trolling

[lofty depot]

U could if u were and I quote "in the trenches"

I'll assume not very good nah mean

[lucid olive]

idk moonkin was definitely way easier on that fight than evoker

and its not particularly close

[lofty depot]

I didn't say it wasnt

I said there could be bad timings

[lucid olive]

the timings are static or

[lofty depot]

Seek help

[lucid olive]

P1 is the only sketchy part and its all on set timers

[void jacinth]

Any ranged class that has more cast while moving capabilities will be easier to transition to from melee but moonkin has a lot of instant cast spells that you can pool resources for to give you similar mobility

[lucid olive]

[eternal shell]

I did read that one of the biggest changes for Balance Druid in Midnight was that they are changing Eclipse from a proc to an ability. Does that mean the rotation between live and Midnight for Balance would play pretty much the same?

[lofty depot]

It's not really a proc

[scenic vortex]

I know my warlock was a good gamer who positioned well, but he was stood still almost the entire phase apart from when he had to do his pop while I had to bob and weave around melee & ranged web blades

[lofty depot]

But it's basically the same hes

[scenic vortex]

He outranged most of them

[lofty depot]

Less uptime on eclipse

[lucid olive]

also a lot of later guilds didn't plan boss movements for web blades and made it harder for themselves

[scenic vortex]

Yea maybe we prespread badly so everyone clustered around the middle with nobody far out

[lucid olive]

we had melee and ranged in 2 separate stacks like 40 yards away from each other on the edge/in the middle and then moved together

for the web blades

but we also did all our p1 prog when there were more web blades

and the extra toxin pop

[scenic vortex]

We killed the boss on the reset of the nerf 🙁

[eternal shell]

Thanks for answering my questions guys, I will give Balance Druid a try and see how I get on with it 🙂

[void jacinth]

Gratz

[void jacinth]

o7

[lofty depot]

"it used to be harder meme"

[void jacinth]

Lowkey gamz is saying that it's harder for Peter's guild because they didn't have the countermeasure strats

Even tho there were fewer mechanics

I pretend to miss my orb when flying on Dimensius so it feels like pre nerf

[lofty depot]

Correct

[void jacinth]

I can simulate RWF prog by not taking orbs

[lofty depot]

Often times people have the guide, the strat, but don't know the why

Then it gets lost in translation

[void jacinth]

Good movie

[lofty depot]

Think we're gonna start skipping another orb

Kill too fast

[void jacinth]

I was joking but with damage stops and stuff it's actually not dumb

For sales we have to stop 3 times total with 1 buyer

Two buyers is kinda fine cause them being dead is the damage stop

[lone arch]

could any1 share a screenshot of a basic build of EC in beta

[lucid olive]

CYGAfBfvSBlhBXxJwJSl16LEmDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoYLjxMDwsMmZmZhxMWmZZmlZWYmhxyMLjxgNMMAjltZ222mZb2mpZmlZCAAAwiZmZmBbGDjBAMzgZGMzAA

[void jacinth]

Damn, in evoker disc they just say "build it yourself that's what beta is for"

"then tell us if u like your build"

[lofty depot]

Yea u can skip 2 orbs plat 1

[lone arch]

tyy

[dense steeple]

am i blasting?

[uncut roost]

Reclearing

[supple zealot]

I miss renewal

[dense steeple]

we had roster issues last week

[delicate perch]

was the issue too many people logging in

[dense steeple]

No, vacations, work trips, sicks

[lofty depot]

Not nexus king so no

[dense steeple]

nexus king is dead 🙂

[lofty depot]

I meant the trinkey silly

[dense steeple]

is that even good ?

[lofty depot]

yes

[flat cradle]

hey, is there a good summary article i can ready to get up to speed on midnight beta? dunno if anyones got a link handy if there is one, but would appreciate it if you do

[lofty depot]

theres a feedback post talking about some of the changes

unless u mean just a list of the patch notes

https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-development-notes-378688

[loud kettle]

Did u fill out the survey

[maiden pasture]

No it stinks don't fall for that bait

[lofty depot]

if my guild doesnt raid next week

ill raid with new guild and surelyt slam

[royal zenith]

[delicate perch]

are you finally upgrading

[lofty depot]

again ye

[pseudo merlin]

The beta dmg meter doesnt even show dmg done to target

Wiping on tree in AA cuz 0 ad dmg but nobody knows why/who

🙂

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-gif-18728531

how many divine storms you pressin bud

[pseudo merlin]

0

It aint my job!

[hollow mist]

[pseudo merlin]

[twin lotus]

how did u guys like the beta gaming?

tried the talent where ss procs free starfall and vice versa

can get some fun chains, bit of a pain with beta latency though

[quiet drift]

#removeeclipses

[twin lotus]

yeah, they feel kinda garbage

[pallid bay]

it wasnt very exciting but nothing really is on beta when you cant dps cause boss has 0 hp and you play on 200ms

[maiden pasture]

the MS is so aids

i dont think i will ever raid test just because of the delay

[pseudo merlin]

The game has never been this bad in history and the moment to moment combat rotation feel of almost every dps spec is below vanilla level

And that's on top of an unplayable game due to trash tier piss poor excuses of replacement for existing addons

🙂

The weird thing is that asides from on lust pulls, I didnt really notice any delay lag during raid testing yday

bosses seem pretty cool

[twin lotus]

i just had high ms, it was mostly fine. I dont know about the game being garbage. Not having weak auras to have a proper UI had me spending more time looking at my buffs that are all over the place with the garbage cooldown manager. Bosses felt like they had 2-3 mechanics that went on and on and on. Pretty cool visually for the most part. Looking forward to seeing the mythic versions

[pseudo merlin]

Size tuning seems way off, but it's always like that when in 10 man

10 man heroic twilight bird healing reqs seemed crazy

cant wait to see that fight on mythic

[jade flume]

I feel the same in terms of class design

Its kinda sad

[pseudo merlin]

I'm trying out arms and fury now, and then I'll have tried every spec in the game

[twin lotus]

I miss arcanic pulsar

[pseudo merlin]

So far only shadow priest and unholy DK feel not unplayable dogshit tier to me

[jade flume]

Removing all complexity is not what they should be focusing on

[pseudo merlin]

with shadow priest actually, imo, best design ever

feels like the only spec that retained complexity

[jade flume]

Imo its gonna be like bfa

[pseudo merlin]

It's absolutely mind boggling how they made ret worse, when ret was like the literal image of simplicity/THE spec for new players

[jade flume]

They will spend next 2 expansions fixing their own changes

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah probably

[jade flume]

They lobotomized evangelism on disc priest

[pseudo merlin]

Some of the hero talents created such interesting gameplay loops, like totemic for example, and they just removed that

[jade flume]

And when people gave feedback that its trash and sad

[pseudo merlin]

Somehow BM got dumbed down even more, same for MM

[jade flume]

They removed the pet

[pseudo merlin]

two specs that were already in line with what they wanted

[pseudo merlin]

😂

[jade flume]

Just remove everything, keep 1 button called heal and just spam that

[pseudo merlin]

you and me both brother

pulsar enjoyers rise up

[jade flume]

Why even have different spells

[pseudo merlin]

true

[jade flume]

Have all the spells be procs and passives

[jade flume]

Im still gonna raid since raid will still be fun

But its gonna be raid log expansion more than ever

[pseudo merlin]

I have no doubt the raids are going to be bangers

Even from the very limited testing yesterday, fights look good

But class fantasy and moment to moment combat is the most important thing to me in mmo games always

No amount of good content or playing with friends can outweigh shitty feeling combat for me

[quiet drift]

This is the Blizzard mantra

Hire people, they add shit, eventually fix it fire them

hire new person repeat

[pseudo merlin]

I was on board initially too

Like some specs could absolutely be toned down a bit, WW was a good example I think

But like.... Don't remove 75% of all the things...

Maybe like 10%...

Devourer exists, BM exists, MM exists, Ret exists

People who want simple gameplay already have specs that cater to that

[jade flume]

Yeah same

Pruning for some abilities sure

And then they make evangelism a fully braindead ability

And remove pet from disc so u dont even have any real cooldown anymore

They are just cooked idk

Are these new players that they want to get into the game like

4 year olds or something

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah I'd like to see the market research on this

Where are all these players that are so fucking incompetent they can only handle 4 buttons at the same time that have virtually no interaction between them

Meanwhile AION 2 came out with 50 button rotations

[lofty depot]

That's why they play wow

Also, uhhh if u ever want to do market research go join a guild that's progging like Araz or soulhunters right now

[jade flume]

Prog dn

[royal zenith]

Im very doomer about midnight

but who knows

[lofty depot]

Think a lot of vocal twitter people are aswell

[pseudo merlin]

You do make a good point

[lofty depot]

And then the camp of addons bad people are like "yea this is good"..... Think ultimately it's good but the nuking of everything all at once is a bit much for people

[royal zenith]

apart from the whole addon fiasco

[pseudo merlin]

Araz proggers probably have two raid times, 1 time 1 hour earlier so everyone can get help turning on their PC

[royal zenith]

it just looks very bad

quality wise

all of it

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[lofty depot]

And their replacements for it aren't what we had obviously so it's hard for the adjustment

[pseudo merlin]

Again though, the raid yesterday looked pretty good imo

[royal zenith]

only housing looks proper

[pseudo merlin]

but I guess I didnt see much of it

I havent touched housing

[royal zenith]

I honestly don't care too much about the whole ui/addon shit

as long as the game is fun

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah I care because the game is not fun

It's something on top of everything else being bad

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

If everything else was good I could live with shit addon functionality for a while

Till they eventually fixed it a year later

[lofty depot]

Also, I think this first tier is either gonna be EN levels of easy or sepulchre and idk if there's an inbetween

[royal zenith]

can't say too much until mythic has been tested but yea

[lofty depot]

I lean en

[pseudo merlin]

doing a dungeon like this IS NOT it

[royal zenith]

we'll see, trying very hard to not be too doomer

else even Oi will call me a doomer

(again)

[pseudo merlin]

who?

[royal zenith]

smh...

log in

[lofty depot]

Tettles being controversial cuz he's not doomer

[royal zenith]

ye

out of the ordinary

[pseudo merlin]

How the hell did he put things below and above his resource bar

That's some crazy tech

[lofty depot]

An addon

[royal zenith]

there's plenty of addons

[pseudo merlin]

I've tried CM and CMT

[royal zenith]

many WA people working on their own versions

tarithal, oi, quazi etc.

[lofty depot]

Lol I couldn't tell u which one cuz all of them are funny named

[pseudo merlin]

real

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

Delete 3 addons to download 500

Locken

[royal zenith]

think tettles was also testing a version for the nameplates

or it was the same

[pseudo merlin]

It's actually quite funny how I've never spent this much time working on my UI and downloading external addons to do so

The irony

So happy we're no longer gatekeeping casuals

[lofty depot]

Think the gatekeep is even worse

Cuz u'll still have to do some manual things with icons and settings

Rather than just copy a weakaura and it's fine

[pseudo merlin]

Yes that's the point I'm making

It's literally way way way way more effort than ever before

😂

All you had to do before was download WA, browse wago for something pretty, import

[royal zenith]

I don't think that's entirely true

cause if you'd wipe all your addons right now and have to redl everthing you have

you'd be in the same situation

[pseudo merlin]

Nah, I'm talking about making my spec playable

Not the million weakauras we had for other purposes

[royal zenith]

what do you need for ret paladin...

apart from holy power tracker...

[pseudo merlin]

classism?? stop?

😠

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

The funny thing is

They removed CSAA so you dont need to track a swing timer anymore

But now they added it back in and there's no swing timer tracker

So now you just "randomly" get holy power but you dont know when unless you're counting in your head or watching your chars melee swing

And ofcourse a lot of resource gains and dot applications are tracked by the default UI with a small delay

which, why is there a delay?!?

[royal zenith]

hmm

makes you wonder if they will adjust the UI to make you able to track this

or to just remove the ability/proc completely

[pseudo merlin]

It'd be something else if they just don't allow you to track it

Atleast you can still track swing timers with something like Gnosis

(the new CSAA is every swing rather than every other)

[royal zenith]

I dunno if they are at the level of tracking swing timers :' )

[pseudo merlin]

[royal zenith]

never forgetti

[pseudo merlin]

That was a huge dub

called it

last month

[sudden flame]

[jade flume]

Tbh i dont care about addon changes too much. Its definitely gonna suck for a while but i think they will make them decent eventually

But their class design philisophy is literally the opposite of what i want

So i cant imagine them making good changes unless they change what they actually want to accomplish

[lofty depot]

Depends what u/they think they want to accomplish

[royal zenith]

Poor firedup

[lofty depot]

If u think their main point was to just limit info

[royal zenith]

Rwf will truly be a race of resources

[lofty depot]

Feels like the easiest example is what the DPS meter is vs what we had or have had previously

[jade flume]

Make every spec as braindead as possible from what i see

[lofty depot]

So now u just have to go look at a log to find the info you want rather than having it decently in game

[jade flume]

Definitely accomplishing that with disc priest at least

[lofty depot]

Feels kinda weird

[lofty depot]

Scared they were nuking too much, so had to take out complexity ... Then add it back in last titan

[jade flume]

I legit think thats gonna happen ye

Maybe 3 spells per spec isnt enough and they will start adding some stuff

[eager raft]

Guys can you please tell deux I say hey

[lofty depot]

Also, Idk enough about all the other classes to say like they nuked all the conplexity

[jade flume]

Ye i mean, i dont know all specs either

But the few i do know got neutered

[lofty depot]

Like fire..... They deleted pf and scorch but it's still just the same play style it's not like it's crazy cuz 1 more button

[eager raft]

isn’t fire just full on fireball spam

Or frostfire bolt ig

[jade flume]

Yeah but having more buttons does make it more complex, its easier to fuck up 2 button rotation than 1

[lofty depot]

Depends what u play but essentially

[jade flume]

Scorch made sense to be there, used in combustion and execute

[lofty depot]

But I thought fire with the amount of instant casts was insane anyway

[jade flume]

And on disc priest they removed evangelism extend and just made it radiance spam instead

And also removed all your cds to make ur evang ramp strong

So now it feels like u never have a strong ramp that feels impactful

Because putting atonements on 20 people is too complex for 4 year olds

[pseudo merlin]

I can, I tried all the dps specs that aren't lizards and they're all donkey trash except for shadow and unholy, maybe frost but I dont know enough about frost

and unholy is probably just my bad opinion

[sudden flame]

did frost even get changes their spec was already like pre made for midnight

[lucid olive]

yeah frost got reworked before season 3 so afaik it's pretty much the same

[merry crow]

Any idea on the addon he’s using to remove the cdm glow? Ugliest thing I’ve ever seen

[supple zealot]

Give us renewal back 2026

[royal zenith]

You'd have to ask tettles himself, I have no idea

@wicked shuttle

[wicked shuttle]

i have no clue

if even that is what an addon is doing

[coarse jackal]

Please help. Is there a way to track the DoT on a target without looking for a debuff on the target's plate? I was told you can use the cooldown manager to track how long the DoT will be on the target. Or is there a different way to track this? For example, the duration of the DoT on the button. Is this possible in midnight?

[lucid olive]

Cooldown manager can do it in Midnight yes

its not a great solution though as Blizzard doesn't know how to properly show glows for pandemic conditions but its fine just for duration

[pseudo merlin]

minor

[pseudo merlin]

There's also a delay between target receiving dot and the CD manager showing it

wild

[eager raft]

I haven’t experienced that delay

Or at least haven’t noticed it

[kind raptor]

For first boss in arrakoa what's a good overall strategy for balance. I am doing OK and perhaps it's not on me but I will nuke boss then swap over and root and start nuking spiders. Starting to do higher keys and while I am doing my best to nuke all the adds sometimes the tank seems to run them near the boss or other don't seem to focus them.

We do want to kill them ASAP while avoiding all the stuff on the ground right?

[lofty depot]

they run them near the boss for cleave

but if ur not swapping to them right away, u should

[lucid olive]

The tank is supposed to tank the boss near the spiders

The spiders fixate on the other players so if it paths into the boss hitbox it's on you

[pseudo merlin]

all my cd manager (default) settings getting deleted when I make a talent change is peak

👌

pressing "save" also deletes all settings

[eager raft]

there’s a little dropdown for ur presets at the bottom of the advanced cdm settings window

Maybe its saved in there

[pseudo merlin]

nah

You just spend 30 minutes setting everything up in edit mode, hit save, and its all gone

then repeat, make 1 talent change, and again it's gone

[eager raft]

🫵 😂

[pseudo merlin]

[naive siren]

thanks for beta testing for me!

[pseudo merlin]

🤝

@loud kettle thoughts on this banger UI

[dense steeple]

❌

[pseudo merlin]

??????

[dense steeple]

Make it no more than 3 rows ans move all down

[pseudo merlin]

Wish I could split up the utility cds into two blocks below the energy bar, with a gap in the middle

BUT ALAS

[loud kettle]

one of the uis of all time

[pseudo merlin]

[maiden pasture]

lowkey cheeky tho

[pseudo merlin]

[delicate perch]

Bros got a vertical monitor

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[pseudo merlin]

Anyone else feel like eclipses are just weird now

i cant get into vibe mode

[pseudo merlin]

ok how about this

[cloud citrus]

you play it for like another 6-7 hours it starts to vibe pretty well

[pseudo merlin]

hmm ok ok

[eager raft]

Please don’t use the buff tracking bars man

Make them icons you animal

Also why are you tracking surge and Starfall with cdm!?!!??!!!!!?!

[pseudo merlin]

im not even using cdm

ever heard of starweaver???

smh

I forgot the legiondary name

[dense steeple]

Why cant you

[pseudo merlin]

doesnt let you ?

[pseudo merlin]

would do it like this instead

[dense steeple]

Right why cant you

[pseudo merlin]

?

tell me how senpai

[dense steeple]

Cant you put them on seperate action bars and put them there

[pseudo merlin]

Oh sure yeah

You just can't do it with cd manager

[dense steeple]

Ooo

[pseudo merlin]

Ngl i've been so busy trying to make this shit work I completely forgot you can still just utilise regular bars with buttons as a budget replacement for some WA elements

[lofty depot]

Oneths or Oi

[pseudo merlin]

oh yeah Oi

WAIT is that's the origin story of sune's name

[eager raft]

Those icons sure look like they’re from cooldown manager. Also you can track starweaver on the buff bar instead rather than having those icons there perma

[pseudo merlin]

ya but that's annoying

CDM is an addon

im not using it

[eager raft]

cooldown manager is an ingame tool brother

You have it enabled!

[pseudo merlin]

its an addon

im not using it

[eager raft]

Open settings > gameplay enhancements > cooldown manager

[pseudo merlin]

The distinction between CDM and cooldown manager is being made deliberately

I'm not using CDM

[eager raft]

What

[pseudo merlin]

they should probably come up with a different name

[eager raft]

The addon isnt even relevant to anything I’m saying you’re just splitting hairs

They changed the name on Curse

[pseudo merlin]

No you said cdm, I obviously thought you meant the addon

[eager raft]

It’s called nephui now or something

[pseudo merlin]

The only way to track that buff is with the default cooldown managert

so saying cdm like you did, would be redundant

so it's more logical to assume you meant something else

[eager raft]

C ool
D own
M anager

[pseudo merlin]

smart

[lucid olive]

yeah people started using it so the author changed the name to advertise himself

[eager raft]

As they should! They did a good job with the addon

[lucid olive]

i wont be hyped until they give me a way to change the glows

[eager raft]

Now I just hope blizzard steals it and implements it into the base game

the yellow glow on top of icons

[lucid olive]

and the pandemic glow

both are shit

[eager raft]

And the stupid red border for pandemic are awful

yep terrible

[lucid olive]

and its not only that it looks like shit

if you use the nephui addon or w/e to change the icon size in the cooldown manager

the borders and glows won't change with it

[eager raft]

Oh that’s brutal

[lucid olive]

had this happen because of it

see the numbers and the borders are obscenely large

honestly dont see any reason why dot duration should be secret value

[eager raft]

Are the barkskin, decurse, innervate and soothe icons just action bars?

[lucid olive]

anything that has to do with the cooldown manager should be fully available to your character

[lucid olive]

yeah domino

[eager raft]

I need to do something like that

I wish they’d let you add trinkets to cooldown manager

[lucid olive]

yeah

[eager raft]

But I’ll just put an action bar with the trinket on it above my player frame

[lucid olive]

i'm just trying to set up a UI that looks like what i have on live

and the only thing missing are the ability glows

i know you can have different glows if you just scrap the cooldown manager and use domino action bars with a bunch of custom code

but its all held together by gum and string

[stone ledge]

Gum and string is generous

[lucid olive]

like one of my guildies made this UI on beta

with domino and some other stuff

its functional but just barely

[stone ledge]

Dear god weakauras please update

Ts jank as hell

[vital hound]

Can I yoink your profile

[lucid olive]

sure, just all of it or any specific addon

[vital hound]

The cd manager profile

[pseudo merlin]

caps

anyone else have buttons just not work sometimes on beta

like 4 solid seconds in a row of nothing happening when you spam ss

[lucid olive]

west coast server

[jade flume]

I wish we had desaturate for shit

For dots and cds

Its so nice

[delicate perch]

“One of your guildies”

[lucid olive]

yes

[lofty depot]

hmm the one that plays enhance

[lucid olive]

its not hard to figure out which one

[delicate perch]

Could be any of em

[lucid olive]

exactly

[delicate perch]

(Not arctic though lol)

[lofty depot]

Why would I be raiding in eu

[lucid olive]

you're eu?

bitch edit

[delicate perch]

He’s American forgive him

[lofty depot]

Auto correct

[stone ledge]

W America

[mighty mica]